It's crazy how he can affect the past which affects their present. It took me a sec to wrap my mind around it since Endgame made it clear it can't happen that way. Forgot this isn't in a "timeline"
@@thewolverine5895 I sorta understand that except Loki is able to freeze everything and keep going back in forth between time while in the TVA. That's confusing to me still. Loki was time slipping in the TVA which, by the name, suggests time exists even within the TV. I guess it's a lot different than being in the sacred timeline and what not but still bizarre.
@@HyphyJuice916alot of people missed key points and hints about the TVA. Time DOES exist in the TVA it’s just that due to their work, they exist outside of “time” a/k/a outside of relevant timelines. What I find weird that they don it allow magic inside the TVA and don’t allow robots in. I wonder if Kang is weak to magic
@@Mr713mexican AFAIK, time does exist in the TVA, but it has its own subset of rules. Basically only the TVA linear timeline exists, and any causality that would affect it at any point would change everything in the linear time line at the same time. Think like if you had a stack of blocks, if you removed one and put it on top, the rest move down. This is how it prevents the TVA from having their own multiverse and keeps them within their own timeline of subset rules. Its a very quantum way of thinking of time as 1 degree of action creates 2 outcomes in entirely different points of space and time, the moving the block and the blocks moving down happen in sync. In the sacred time, everything is grafted in a template that will happen. Anything that deviates is an alternate timeline, which gets pruned by the TVA. Timelines in the sacred timeline are not within their own linear structure, therefore changing something in the past doesn't change the future, but causes a deviation that creates another timeline. If you were to leave this timeline, both your new and previous timeline would exist. Their just 2 different ideas on how time could work, and both could be true. In the show, we understand that Kang was the one who created the TVA, so we can infer that he likely created the TVA to have these subset rules. I would theorize that is exactly what the loom does regularly, and where it resets everything back to the TVA being a linear, and the sacred timeline being the ring of time around it.
Wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff Or uh... One must assume that time is all happening all at once, so Loki time slipping and changing the past is directly changing the future/present that we are currently observing in real time But I'm not nearly smart enough to say if that's accurate or not
The Marvel Multiverse is an open-system, multilinear chronology, meaning it has many universes due to branching timelines. The TVA is a Closed-System Mucktime, where there is a single chronology and it is all happening at the same time.
everywhere else time travel is multiverse travel with fancy name, BUT for that place its a secure linear timeline, so hes actually going back to that timelines past and altering it on the fly while preventing any branch offs from happening very very very dangerous to do that but [shrug] oh well
I don't know, I think along the way the writers were forgetting the rules they ended up with, because if you go back in time when you're on the branches, you'll just end up creating another branch instead of changing anything, than why didn't that ever apply to Loki when he was looking for his friends on the timelines. He was able to go to different points in time once he mastered the ability. And if things didn't go his way, he would simply rewind, which be impossible on a branch, since he'll just be creating another branch. And in the ending with Victor timely, it was implied he was never set on the set path because he never got the book, changing the outcome, yet he was on the timeline, so technically it wouldn't have mattered because there still would have been a branch were he got the book anyway.
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It's crazy how he can affect the past which affects their present. It took me a sec to wrap my mind around it since Endgame made it clear it can't happen that way. Forgot this isn't in a "timeline"
There’s only the one TVA with completely linear time
Because tva exist outside of time.
@@thewolverine5895 I sorta understand that except Loki is able to freeze everything and keep going back in forth between time while in the TVA. That's confusing to me still. Loki was time slipping in the TVA which, by the name, suggests time exists even within the TV. I guess it's a lot different than being in the sacred timeline and what not but still bizarre.
@@HyphyJuice916alot of people missed key points and hints about the TVA. Time DOES exist in the TVA it’s just that due to their work, they exist outside of “time” a/k/a outside of relevant timelines. What I find weird that they don it allow magic inside the TVA and don’t allow robots in. I wonder if Kang is weak to magic
@@Mr713mexican AFAIK, time does exist in the TVA, but it has its own subset of rules. Basically only the TVA linear timeline exists, and any causality that would affect it at any point would change everything in the linear time line at the same time. Think like if you had a stack of blocks, if you removed one and put it on top, the rest move down. This is how it prevents the TVA from having their own multiverse and keeps them within their own timeline of subset rules. Its a very quantum way of thinking of time as 1 degree of action creates 2 outcomes in entirely different points of space and time, the moving the block and the blocks moving down happen in sync.
In the sacred time, everything is grafted in a template that will happen. Anything that deviates is an alternate timeline, which gets pruned by the TVA. Timelines in the sacred timeline are not within their own linear structure, therefore changing something in the past doesn't change the future, but causes a deviation that creates another timeline. If you were to leave this timeline, both your new and previous timeline would exist.
Their just 2 different ideas on how time could work, and both could be true. In the show, we understand that Kang was the one who created the TVA, so we can infer that he likely created the TVA to have these subset rules. I would theorize that is exactly what the loom does regularly, and where it resets everything back to the TVA being a linear, and the sacred timeline being the ring of time around it.
I love that every time Loki says “it’s confusing”, OuroBoros understands it IMMEDIATELY. people are forgetting he is a genius amongst geniuses.
Ah Goonies still Rocking the Screen
hey got a time variant helping docter indiana jones tru the tempel of doom
@@t84t748748t6 hehe
I’ve watched this series 4 times.
I cant believ Loki was the Green Tree Trimmer
Ke huy quan should have returned as short round in dial of destiny
How does this fucking work *again*
Wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff
Or uh... One must assume that time is all happening all at once, so Loki time slipping and changing the past is directly changing the future/present that we are currently observing in real time
But I'm not nearly smart enough to say if that's accurate or not
The Marvel Multiverse is an open-system, multilinear chronology, meaning it has many universes due to branching timelines. The TVA is a Closed-System Mucktime, where there is a single chronology and it is all happening at the same time.
everywhere else time travel is multiverse travel with fancy name, BUT for that place its a secure linear timeline, so hes actually going back to that timelines past and altering it on the fly while preventing any branch offs from happening very very very dangerous to do that but [shrug] oh well
I don't know, I think along the way the writers were forgetting the rules they ended up with, because if you go back in time when you're on the branches, you'll just end up creating another branch instead of changing anything, than why didn't that ever apply to Loki when he was looking for his friends on the timelines. He was able to go to different points in time once he mastered the ability. And if things didn't go his way, he would simply rewind, which be impossible on a branch, since he'll just be creating another branch.
And in the ending with Victor timely, it was implied he was never set on the set path because he never got the book, changing the outcome, yet he was on the timeline, so technically it wouldn't have mattered because there still would have been a branch were he got the book anyway.
Thats E1 not E6
Alpha waymond?
Actual adults wrote this script and approved it. This franchise has fallen far.
What are you yapping about? This the first time you learned about the concept of time travel?
@@SumitSStark I’m saying that the writers for Marvel are idiots. Don’t make me question your intelligence for not understanding this.
@@derkatwork33 go ahead, enlighten me sir braniac
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's stupid🗿🗿 cry LOUDER
Did you watch the show or just hating to hate?