pre resil rogue is so fun in TBC. I cant imagine a better leveling experience than beating anyone who tries to gank you, evading higher levels with ease, winning outleveled/outgeared 1v1s... man TBC rogue is how to live. can't wait to do it again for like the 4th time
Pretty sure my naxx geared prot warrior would fare really well against any rogue that doesn't have a thunderfury mainhand. I simply don't take any damage, I can fully block aimed shots from hunters lol.
And the funniest thing is, you haven't even reached the lvl required for cloak of shadows, which makes any fight against the casters like 50% easier :D
@@panameadeplm no but when people clearly are trying to escape and they want nothing to do with PVPing a geared rogue when they are far far less geared and then he kills them three times or they're level 57 that can be a bit toxic especially if they waved him he waves back but then kills him at them anyway then sniffs at the end.
@@Mr.Sr.Jr. This is what you ask for when you sign up to a server that flags you for pvp, ganking/killing is how its always been, its toxic, its sweaty and at 57 you're a hk to anyone within your level range. Move to a pve server.
i think a lot of people cant wait to relive their TBC experience. I personally swapped to druid at the start of tbc with zero knowledge of druids. Now Im a druid of 14 years and im a lot more excited this time around.
How you think rogues will be doing over All for solo world pvp in tbc compared to a restokin ? Also u think it's worth farming the badges / new honor in prepatch to get rank 14 gear/weapons for a rogue or the items you get from questing/dungeons in tbc are more or less equal of not better ?
Badge gear with enchants is pretty strong you will only replace that gear in your late 67s+ and some might even later. If you have the time and money to invest now, you'll save time and money later on by leveling faster.
I got glad in tbc years ago playing combat rogue with a warlock in 2's, combat spec is the warrior and rogue counter, also the great thing about that team was our matches lasted 10-15 seconds. I think there is a sword you can buy at 70 when you hit exalted with one of the factions so you can actually grind exalted before dinging 70. I had server first troll Rogue back in the day when I was a loser no lifer. the coolest part of TBC for me though was quiting the game, a guy and his son idolized me and drove from Miami to meet me at Starbucks to buy my account for a few grand.
@@gustanoid I think its from Aldor, not sure on the name, that was like 15 yrs ago heh, I remember grinding some mobs for rep from 67-70 to reach exalted before 70, that sword is the best for a short while and totally worth
@@ArvieeTV Its been so long ago I don't remember but I do remember going against many rogues and warriors so combat was really good. I think I had disarm and remember having adrenaline rush. I was almost all combat with some sin? My Warlock partner helped me find Rogues who were deep sub so being combat wasn't all that scary against their opener.
@@MannYSJ1080p there are no proper ways bro, I have 3 different keybinds for cheap shot, 2 for rupture, 3 for sap, 2 for expose armor and 2 for garrote. If you can't handle having that many keybinds for the same spell with different macros well then yes learn it the 90 degree technique.
but this is rogue favored anyways. Mages 100% lose vs rogues because they have to block the opener otherwise they'll get demolished. I have dueled enough on private servers to know the matchups.
@@Deno_7_ Phase 6 rogues in classic are huge with gear. They kill any class in 6 seconds aside from plate wearers. Literally click on clothies and kill them.
First he uses Premeditation in stealth (adds 2 combo points). Then he stuns with cheap shot (adds 2 as well). Then he uses hemorrhage (adds the 5th and final point). He also often uses cheap shot just to add 2 combo points, because it doesn't break sap. This is useful when premeditation is on cooldown, or in general, because cheap shot has a much lower cooldown.
I feel like there should be a common signal by now for cross-faction fights to the death. Like you guys both bow at each other or something. If you refuse, then wave and leave.
this comments reminds me of how many cool ideas that could have been done for wow pvp but the creativity just wasn't there. like having a pvp hub where people can duel and having 1v1 arena and kind of having classes balanced enough for 1v1 in a way that not all classes become almost the same like in retail. and so many other cool creative things that could have been done for world pvp, removing flying mounts would be a start.
I'm leveling as hemo rn in classic and it's not ideal but on a high pop pvp server leveling in stv. The pvp spec comes in a handy a shit ton! And my friend rogue is combat but he might respec
You ever duel anyone that's actually good in pvp? I mean, I would love to see you dueling other streamers that know how to play the game. Maybe you can arrange something? I don't know.
Alliance are so terrible. That Nightelf hunter tries to assist the gnome who's sapped, and the gnome watches him and types while he dies. I understand the Nightelf was ganking, but clearly the rogue agro'd him from stealth. Had the factions been switched, the secondary roaming horde player would have been assisted by the sapped horde player. Venser is polymorphing between autoattacks just to heal the rogue. Assisting the opposite faction should be insta-bannable
They are duelling... and the hunter is disrupting them... you dumb ? it's not just some "wpvp"... they are duelling him one by one, turn by turn. And the huntard is just ruinning it. If he did not attacked, he wouldn't have died. They had no interest in helping the hunt... since the goal here wasn't just to "kill the bad guy horde bouuh"... like, not at all.
Guys if u think this guy is Good you have no idea about tbc. This kid is gona get outplayed by 90% of rogues from eu who grinded game for years on privates. I can bet 1k dollars that i can beat this guys easly 1 vs 1 on my rogue
Could someone put the macro for cheap shot and dont break sap? I tried all macros and they didn't work i have to do it facing 90° to avoid the autoattack (I tried macros with stop autoattack and they didnt work)
Everytime I want go play wow I remember it's still 15$ a month after 15 years. I can afford it and not make much difference but it's just not ok to money grub like that.
This is what happens when these streamers access the TBC beta. They don't test anything or report bugs. Only gank and PVP. It already seems that the beta test is needed solely to raise the hype. Contempt.
that hunter would attack him again if he knew he has a chance
If that hunter was alone, he was long gone...
The hunter had Ress sickness lmao
absolute dog
pre resil rogue is so fun in TBC. I cant imagine a better leveling experience than beating anyone who tries to gank you, evading higher levels with ease, winning outleveled/outgeared 1v1s... man TBC rogue is how to live. can't wait to do it again for like the 4th time
Totally in agreement. Bis class, bis expansion.
Pretty sure my naxx geared prot warrior would fare really well against any rogue that doesn't have a thunderfury mainhand.
I simply don't take any damage, I can fully block aimed shots from hunters lol.
@@g.e.o.r.g.e... virgin
@@jonathanc4746 Yeah, well... at least I have my own loot.
I don't need to watch other people play the game in my place.
And the funniest thing is, you haven't even reached the lvl required for cloak of shadows, which makes any fight against the casters like 50% easier :D
4:36 was that a 1 crit?
no that was a hemorrhage.
Cool mage trying to poly heal ya.
Too bad the person he was trying to Poly heal is one of the most toxic/strongest PVPers on the server 😂.
@@Mr.Sr.Jr. so you're one of those people that calls people pvping on a pvp server toxic
@@panameadeplm no but when people clearly are trying to escape and they want nothing to do with PVPing a geared rogue when they are far far less geared and then he kills them three times or they're level 57 that can be a bit toxic especially if they waved him he waves back but then kills him at them anyway then sniffs at the end.
@@Mr.Sr.Jr. "no but" means yes
@@Mr.Sr.Jr. This is what you ask for when you sign up to a server that flags you for pvp, ganking/killing is how its always been, its toxic, its sweaty and at 57 you're a hk to anyone within your level range. Move to a pve server.
0:44 "He's eating him... and then he's gonna eat me!!!!
*Oh My GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!* "
Why is the gnome's head ball after using savory deviate delight? That's rather interesting
Played Sstep rogue in TBC. Playing it again in a few months. Can't wait!!
cool story
i think a lot of people cant wait to relive their TBC experience. I personally swapped to druid at the start of tbc with zero knowledge of druids. Now Im a druid of 14 years and im a lot more excited this time around.
Watching these vids make me want to try out rogue in classic, it looks fun
Yes but need 1000 hours for gear youre rogue
This isn't classic
@@xavier6869 no 😂
How you think rogues will be doing over All for solo world pvp in tbc compared to a restokin ? Also u think it's worth farming the badges / new honor in prepatch to get rank 14 gear/weapons for a rogue or the items you get from questing/dungeons in tbc are more or less equal of not better ?
Badge gear with enchants is pretty strong you will only replace that gear in your late 67s+ and some might even later. If you have the time and money to invest now, you'll save time and money later on by leveling faster.
Is he using double swords or dagger sword? Can't tell
I got glad in tbc years ago playing combat rogue with a warlock in 2's, combat spec is the warrior and rogue counter, also the great thing about that team was our matches lasted 10-15 seconds. I think there is a sword you can buy at 70 when you hit exalted with one of the factions so you can actually grind exalted before dinging 70. I had server first troll Rogue back in the day when I was a loser no lifer. the coolest part of TBC for me though was quiting the game, a guy and his son idolized me and drove from Miami to meet me at Starbucks to buy my account for a few grand.
thats a nice story bro, thanks for sharing!
this game brings good memories
what is the name of that sword?
@@gustanoid I think its from Aldor, not sure on the name, that was like 15 yrs ago heh, I remember grinding some mobs for rep from 67-70 to reach exalted before 70, that sword is the best for a short while and totally worth
Out of curiosity, can you share your combat talent build? Thanks!
@@ArvieeTV Its been so long ago I don't remember but I do remember going against many rogues and warriors so combat was really good. I think I had disarm and remember having adrenaline rush. I was almost all combat with some sin? My Warlock partner helped me find Rogues who were deep sub so being combat wasn't all that scary against their opener.
are we going from buff meta to flask meta now
Are you not flaking already?
@@soulkw1158 certainly not for open world pvp but cus im terrible gold farmer or rather spend the time pvping
I have to learn that Cheap Shot in a Sap, technique.
Cheapshot:
#showtooltip Cheap Shot
/cast Cheap Shot
/cleartarget
/stopattack
Expose armor:
#showtooltip Expose Armor
/cast [@target,harm,nodead][harm,nodead] Expose Armor
@@bicarbxd much appreciated!
@@pogolas anytime
Learn it the proper way without using a macro, you need to use the same technique for garrote and rupture into a sap
@@MannYSJ1080p there are no proper ways bro, I have 3 different keybinds for cheap shot, 2 for rupture, 3 for sap, 2 for expose armor and 2 for garrote. If you can't handle having that many keybinds for the same spell with different macros well then yes learn it the 90 degree technique.
That mage saved your ass with the poly when the dumbass hunter came back lol. Props to the mage for that heal.
It's funnier to me when people say "have fun being useless in BC as a melee" lol. How little they must of played BC and Wrath against good rogues.
Everyone knows rogues are gods in TBC PvP. Useless melee is referring to PvE.
Where he plays tbc isn't released?
jesus christ
Wish I could pvp that well. I just suck at it. Don't react quick enough to all the variables involved.
you’re not alone brother. and you don’t suck, just in a different league
I feel like he has unlimited energy, when I pvp It seems like I am always out of energy just auto attacking :D
finally one video loger than 1 2 min ty
Where is the special subscribe sound?
Just wait til level cap and resilience.
but this is rogue favored anyways. Mages 100% lose vs rogues because they have to block the opener otherwise they'll get demolished. I have dueled enough on private servers to know the matchups.
Usually later patches with better gear don't favor rogues. Rogues tend to shine earlier in xpacs
@@Deno_7_ Phase 6 rogues in classic are huge with gear. They kill any class in 6 seconds aside from plate wearers. Literally click on clothies and kill them.
@@adam_14707 mage was 2 level below him
@@Deno_7_ Good Mage can easy beat rog. I grinded tbc for 10 years and i can tell this.
every one talk about how op rogues will be.. guys dont forget the bm hunters..
Early phase they are good late phase not. People will kill the pet in no time in arena .
Miss thise victory sniffs 😢
Gg bro the guy tbag old school
Any plans to accualy duel your own lvl? So far ive only seen you kill ppl bellow yourself on the tbc beta.
Outgear also
How do you crit for 1 lol
What gear are you currently running?
rank 14
@@Irovetti at what level does Rank 14 get replaced...arena sets?
@@GSK1125R 67+ blue gears i guess
Yo that mage got you health back against that hunter by sheeping you. Big brain move.
Completely standard
@@JakeGittes84 lolll right
it's 2021... it's not a big brain move since like a decade^^'
old pshero would beat the hunter with just ranged weapons
no, he would kill him with fishing pot
you remind me of Lil Dicky
how do you got 5 combo points after just few.strikes? Or.did I miss somethin
First he uses Premeditation in stealth (adds 2 combo points). Then he stuns with cheap shot (adds 2 as well). Then he uses hemorrhage (adds the 5th and final point). He also often uses cheap shot just to add 2 combo points, because it doesn't break sap. This is useful when premeditation is on cooldown, or in general, because cheap shot has a much lower cooldown.
@@Igor-kl4ty Ty mister for such a detailed answer. I forgot he has premeditation now in tbc aswell ;)
Cant wait for more
Wanns See alot of Gangs , Specially on PvP bases
Is TBC official out yet?
...
Mission accomplished.
Damn pleasant show
Will prep + adrenaline rush + mace spec be a thing again? (Or was that wotlk? Pretty sure it was TBC)
AR/Prep + Mace spec was a TBC thing
We have last tbc patch talents, so no, it's not gonna be a thing.
So itresting)))
Nice, Pshero when you birthday ?)
You will dominate TBC.
He will not. I can outplay this kid in every 1 vs 1. We grinded tbc for 8 years in eu privates. This guy is not gona be even top 100 xd
@@Ledzinskii xd i will be top 10 and u will not be topp 100
And here I wish to play ENH shaman in PvP... Damn, someone help!
It’s annoying AF how alliance respect the 1v1. The server I played on was a slaughterhouse!
What server is?
Beta pvp
@@alikengi17 the page to download? Please
@@davidbarker3649 Blizzard client...
classic tbc beta
Soo funny when a gnome sits on your head repeatedly :)
Screw my warrior main I’m going rogue in tbc !
I feel like there should be a common signal by now for cross-faction fights to the death. Like you guys both bow at each other or something. If you refuse, then wave and leave.
yeah right
this comments reminds me of how many cool ideas that could have been done for wow pvp but the creativity just wasn't there.
like having a pvp hub where people can duel and having 1v1 arena and kind of having classes balanced enough for 1v1 in a way that not all classes become almost the same like in retail.
and so many other cool creative things that could have been done for world pvp, removing flying mounts would be a start.
You always are, sometimes rusty but still strong boi
Is it ideal for a Rogue to level as hemo or is he just doing this for the beta?
I'm leveling as hemo rn in classic and it's not ideal but on a high pop pvp server leveling in stv. The pvp spec comes in a handy a shit ton! And my friend rogue is combat but he might respec
Combat can be done as well you just want sub tallents as well instead of assassin
Both specs level fine, combat can save you a bit of time in pve servers, but sub will help you more in pvp servers.
You ever duel anyone that's actually good in pvp? I mean, I would love to see you dueling other streamers that know how to play the game. Maybe you can arrange something? I don't know.
He is weak. I can easy beat him 1 vs 1 on my rog
Fun to watch
Ress sickness hunter lmao
like we didnt know this in TBC,this is old news.probably why you went rogue after TBC classic was announced
LOOOOOOOL DONT CRYYYYY hahahahahaha
i play rogue since 2005 and never ever played a single round of arena xD
i think i have to give pvp a shot in tbc
What the FUCK yikes
This is more fucked up than 2020
So sad to see people like Sususugar getting a beta invite
Are you smoking people in only HWL gear? I can’t wait to use my gressil then. Jesus.
More PvP
Ofc, before resilience it's even worse than vanilla
I want to play on EU servers :(
Rogs will dominate arenas in tbc
Rogues wayy op. So many people gonna play rogue.TBC = Rogue of warcraft :p sad sad q,q
I just wouldn't fuck with him ...go the other way.
No joke
Hunter noob and 3 lvls lower. Mage noob iceblocking straight away. Plz find players who can play.
sususugar 😒😒😒
yet again rogue has too much utility
ok
Alliance are so terrible. That Nightelf hunter tries to assist the gnome who's sapped, and the gnome watches him and types while he dies. I understand the Nightelf was ganking, but clearly the rogue agro'd him from stealth. Had the factions been switched, the secondary roaming horde player would have been assisted by the sapped horde player.
Venser is polymorphing between autoattacks just to heal the rogue. Assisting the opposite faction should be insta-bannable
They are duelling... and the hunter is disrupting them... you dumb ? it's not just some "wpvp"... they are duelling him one by one, turn by turn. And the huntard is just ruinning it. If he did not attacked, he wouldn't have died.
They had no interest in helping the hunt... since the goal here wasn't just to "kill the bad guy horde bouuh"... like, not at all.
Guys if u think this guy is Good you have no idea about tbc. This kid is gona get outplayed by 90% of rogues from eu who grinded game for years on privates. I can bet 1k dollars that i can beat this guys easly 1 vs 1 on my rogue
Hostia el venser jajakaja
all your target are 2 level below you.
is this ben askren?
Pshero завязывай уже с WoW, он тебе на пользу не идёт. 😆
You are the best !
yesssss
Could someone put the macro for cheap shot and dont break sap? I tried all macros and they didn't work i have to do it facing 90° to avoid the autoattack (I tried macros with stop autoattack and they didnt work)
/cast cheap shot
/stopattack
/stopcasting
Press ONCE!
@@peterbagosi3862 btw didn't work :(
the only way I can do it its facing 90°
@@Tomi-db8rx add /cleartarget
lol at the bad hunter, rogues dont beat good hunters in TBC.
If the Hunter is not specced into The Beast Within, it is not so difficult for a Preparation Rogue, to win.
Wrong buddy. A good rogue shits on hunters in tbc. I NEVER feared a single huntard back in the BC day. The only class i feared were shaman healers.
all hunters in pvp s1 will be BM, good luck dealing with beast within
@@pyrozea2586 not worried bud.
they are not pvp players... ithink ... wait for me dude.
Rogue is and will be strong 1v1. Literally a pampered class that gets more pampering.
Everytime I want go play wow I remember it's still 15$ a month after 15 years. I can afford it and not make much difference but it's just not ok to money grub like that.
62及64及你再搞笑吧
Glad I quit this shitty ass game. Just gonna be a another vanilla classic where gold sellers take over and is practically pay to win
the only people who say wpvp is fun just so happens to play a class that goes invis and stun locks.. yeah id love wpvp too scrubs
any locks like wpvp? any warriors like wpvp? any shamans like wpvp? didnt think so
This is what happens when these streamers access the TBC beta. They don't test anything or report bugs. Only gank and PVP. It already seems that the beta test is needed solely to raise the hype. Contempt.
Ganking and PvP isn't part of playing the game?
Fun fact: 90% of the player base especially in PvP will be rogues.
I won't be rude but this rogue is damn bad.... Stuffed, but awfull
the fact that bots get into the beta is just mind blowing...
1st
But u re not.
Rogue are just completely OP on TBC.
Rogues get a lot more weak at 70 with res
still best 1 vs 1 class.
@@romanromeo8527 Not vs warr w arena gear and storm herald
@@SFBay69 you play too much pservers warriors are good but not better than rogues
@Greg Peterson false.skilled rogue beats everything 1v1
@Greg Peterson bruh, I managed to beat resto shamans in S4 gear. Rogues aren't about mongo damage but resets
classic, tbc, wotlk,mop...you're a rogue we get it
Point on the doll where the evil rogue touched you
Yea tbh rogues are and always have been super cheesy 1v1, they only really have weaknesses in group content.
@@xgetxsickx this video doesn't mean shit because his enemies are 2 levels below him. and that is huge
@@GamingDualities he's also not having to deal with resilience, he'll be fucked by level cap
@@xgetxsickx like everybody else