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if someone joins my world and tries to use a lvl 60 character id just laught in chat but start,, we are gonna clear either way so it really isnt that deep
@@Childe005 well i think they're both decent in coop, but if most of them didn't use dendro related comp, you can try use and build other versatile characters in the future. Yes it may take some time to build them properly but in the long run, I'll say it's worth it
Coop will be much easier to breathe and more interesting to play without toxicity. I met many players that confessed they are not eager to join coops as they are uncomfortable with toxic players. Come on, this is a game, game where we can sit and enjoy whatever character we use, not to be ashamed for our characters being "weak", "not enough cons to support team"
But they were right? Why would you bring a shield built Zhongli into an AZDAHA domain? You can only shield yourself if u are c0. Everyone else will die except you and you can’t do any dmg to it without teammates. It makes no sense.
@@Miko2030 Exactly. I get that you should be allowed to play any character but bringing characters that dont support your teammates *or* do dmg doesnt make any sense. You’ll be wasting people’s time by trying to chip it down with three digit dmg numbers. Zhongli is one out of 50 characters. Surely, you must have someone else built enough to not use him
Not every person in this world has enough money/luck/whatever to pull for constellations. It’s not the best option for coop but please be polite to each other
@@elijahang3968the game is for fun so no need to get mad i don't mind when i die in co-op bcz who cares??its a game you can try again and its more fun when its hard(for me at least)like yeah i know its best if they put healer/shielder but like there's players who blame you if they died even tho its not your fault Anyways if that happened to you please don't get mad like try it and if you failed tell them to switch but be nice there's ppl who get hurt when you get angry
@@elijahang3968 I can live without a shield and I don’t mind if only one person got a shield. Another person can use a healer or the team is strong enough to fight without a shield or a healer
@@elijahang3968 C0 Zhongli is still useful in Azdaha, he can be used to tank his attacks and taunt Azdaha to attack him while other players can choose long-range characters and attack from afar, I guess just not that many people think about this strategy
I do understand why some people don’t like C0 Zhongli… If he’s not using a DPS build when at C0 in co-op,it doesn’t really benefit anyone since you can only keep yourself alive but do no damage. If you’re gonna use Zhongli in co-op you have to be prepared to use either a DPS build or have him at C2.
this is the most logic comment so far. understanding yourself for not being a burden to the other is also important. i'd rather have someone as a healer than c0 zhongli.
Dps build even at c0 isn’t his best build, best build across the board is shield bot. The c2 doesn’t change that but it makes him “easier” to play by saving time so you don’t have to hold E and helps in co op a bit. But even in this case if he was c0 it wouldn’t be a issue unless they wanted to stay close to azdaha(which is what get most of the players killed against azdaha) to Grief for damage. You have way more than enough time to run away from the stomps and dodge his attacks. Edit: granted you would probably be better off playing a healer or a actual dps character but if he’s your only character than built then it is what it is.
@@CorinLock we’re not talking about his best build normally when you’re using him in your own teams. C0 shieldbot zhongli has no utility in co-op because he cannot give his teammates shields and also does no damage. At that point you’re basically there to look pretty while your teammates do the work. C2 shieldbot is fine because it gives teammates shields in co-op. That’s why the og commenter says don’t bring c0 zhongli without a dps build, because otherwise you’re not helping anyone.
Honestly speaking, unless they're the host, I don't really like when someone brings c0 zl in a harder fight like this- especially to azhdaha he has a TON of geo res. Idk I feel like it's somewhat of an unwritten rule that the host can bring anyone they want because they're canonically the one needing the help, as the rest of the team just happened to spawn in TwT. Though, it's sweet if instead of assuming things, teammates in the party discuss the best way to fight but that doesn't happen often
I met a player who didn't want me to use Barbara when we were in the Emblem and Shimenawa domains. To be honest, at that time, I didn't really have a good healer and support. I didn't even have Bennett; I still don't have him now. So, I just left their world. I understand your concern. I'm also a bit worried that my characters might not be strong enough to join co-op. I'm still working on building them up; currently, I'm at AR45. That's why I've been joining co-op sessions for artifact farming
If youre in asia, id be happy to help...honestly if theyre there to help you, (They should) just be sure to be able to carry a bit at least... (Tho in turn the ones being helped doesnt criticize the helpers build. Id had people done that and im like..dude im helping YOU with this build)
Just play whoever you want. It's not that deep, but some people be treating co-op domains as if they need maximum efficiency like a competitive team esport lmao. I've seen people bring in clearly unsuitable choices and we just start with no hesitation or complaints and beat the domain anyways
Idk why y’all are calling the Ayaka toxic when all she really said was “No Zhongli if no c2” which makes sense. Why bring a c0 Zhongli who nots built as a dps to an AZDAHA domain.
Cause anyone can play with any character they want? I brought kazuha against the anemo hypostasis. Maybe that person used zhongli so that they wouldn't have died instantly
@@marcopala5432 Yes but the issue here is that shield bot Zhongli’s cant do any dmg and then the fight lasts literally forever because he can only do three digit dmg. Its a waste of everyone’s time. Not everyone wants a challenge. People go to coop to get carried or to have fun. Shiled bot Zhongli doesnt support or do which makes him annoying to deal with a teammate.
Maybe they were confused at who they should bring? I know I get confused by that a lot because my Chongyun is often just in the way because people bring ayaka so I often just go Layla to provide coop shields or a healer which is a whole other issue with some hu taos. This is to say that sometimes people bring certain team comps some players don’t have anyone built for or their only character is the same as or similar to another. They probably were trying to not step on anyones’ toes. (Edit is an accidental extra and in the above text sorry)
plus they didn't clear the first time so they definitely need more contribution from a fourth player. sure they can play the characters they like but other players aren't obligated to carry them either and aren't toxic for asking for an easier run
For me, when I see a player using Zhongli, I ask if they’re C2. If not, I just cry a little and hope we have a healer. Azhdah has probably one of the stupidest aoe attacks that if you don’t have a shield, you’re probably screwed.
I continue playing gi because I met a lot of good people here. But only recently I also met toxic ones, I kept explaining I'm just new and still need a lot of things to know, I felt bad about myself,and find it scared playing game, where people can just anything they want without knowing not all players are just playing to have fun, but most are just playing this game to cope with every day struggle in life
I hope you only find good people...just leave if thats the case, especially if youre helping them. I get (some of them) are kids, but thats no excuse to be an ass
thats what friend list for. meet strong players, be friend and ask for help clearing things in game. random coop is filled with uncertain ppl with different goals. like in this video, host and alfa are both newbies, kuki player i doing support because other might need it, jimmy is doing this for content, not for clearing it fast
Imo, play whoever you like. Of course, more useful the better, but in worst case he will be there to provide res shred. Sometimes there are bad matches and that's fine. It's just a game after all
Remembered how once i entered scaramouche fight with yaoyao, the others are diona, ganyu and nahida..ganyu died and left, and nahida followed... It was yaoyao and diona and we each did two digit damage lol. But the heals are unstoppable
Zhongli at c0 is still good at that domain. Just that it is harder on the team and they have to work harder. It is still good fun to use true gaming skill against this boss and not rely too much on shields or heals.
C0 Zhongli is actually just a deadweight to that domain especially if you build him as a shield bot.. Even Barbara or Amber is more useful than Zhongli on Azhdaha domain who has 70% Geo Resistance..
Everyone needs help, had an AR50 join my world who kept apologizing they couldn't beat the oceanid. Happy to help, I just asked them to bring any Cryo character cause my Ayaka is queen with that boss.
Oceanid is HELL..i cant beat it till i got keqing... Nowadays i wont pass up chances to beat up oceanid. Just tell me we are beating oceanid and ill be there!
always love to see some positivity i wish people werent judgemental or toxic about characters i think its fine for c0 zhongli its no problem as long as they mention it i can always be the healer or something
I think is ok for artifacts domain but when I see zhongli in trounce domain I auto assume that it’s a c2 at least. But even if it isn’t I’ll just be disappointed internally and eat more food if I have to, won’t really say much and maybe switch to a better healer next round 😢
Jimmy, ive been watching yoyr videos for months, all i can say is that genshin really needs to utilize coop more, the most fun i have in this game is coop (and when i get a new character lol) Something like a coop abyss or coop challenges BUT include trial characters which we should use to avoid the whales with c6 characters ending enemies in 1 second and stuff like that
C0 Zhongli should be in dps build instead of a support that way he is useful for crowd controlling enemies if he has C2 then go for Support build it is much better👌
That’s just so weird, they’re not even the host and they’re trying to command how others should play(which the host shouldn’t be able to do either but you get the point), even if your zhongli was 0, that wouldn’t affect how the others would play unless they’re trying to GREIF for damage by staying close to azdaha and eventually dying. You even have more than enough time to run back away from him while he’s doing the stomps. But you should be able to bring whoever you have built as long as you aren’t trying to troll. But building characters are hard, I have every c6 except for dehya and I can play less than 10 of those characters due to the artifact system rng.
This is a game and is make for fun. I think they should bring any character they want to play. Besides if is a team cooperation game. They all most play and help each other to overcome the weakness. I sometimes play agains hydro characters with my yelan c6 xd since is stronger than all my pyro characters 😅
I hate seeing c0 Zhonglis in coop with 0 Dmg. I mean, some people join coop to find people to help them, and your Zhongli is USELESS. Personally as 59 ar player I use my well built characters to help the beginners
Yeah actually c0 is good for the single player cz it can help us But if it's coop... Then any character who can just shield themselves and provide nothing to the team is bad Then that player is just useless cz he's literally just enjoying the view😑
Honestly that person is 100% right lmao. People coop to make the domain easier not harder. If zhongli is c0 with a hp build , dont bring him to domains. You will only be a burden to other players lol
@@lqfr8813 Right??? The difference is that at least even a level 40 barbara is useful in co op because she can heal the others in the team. A C0 level 90 zhongli offers nothing to the rest of the team whatsoever
@@LordOfTheUnderworldyou are aware zhongli also offers like a 20% decreased resistance to all elements, right? Him being on the team does help even if it’s unnoticeable.
@@talah6651 thats negligible help. A full on support is more useful, like a bennet, sucrose, kazuha, even a rosaria would be more useful than a C0 Zhongli. And dont get me wrong. Zhongli is a staple in my teams, usually a must have. But in Co Op, a C0 Zhongli just doesnt cut it. 20% res shred and *nothing else* is what he brings, not damage, not healing not shielding. Thats hardly a good enough reason to keep him. Take a built Lisa instead, she gives defense shred and damage at least
I am curious on what you guys think about “useless” characters. I am pretty new to Genshin and my 1st 5 star was Ayaka. When I tried to do this domain before, there’s always someone with a better Ayaka than me, so I have to switch my character out. Problem is, my 2nd best character is Barbara. I have her on a full healer support build so she barely does any damage. I honestly feel so useless in this situation, and afraid other people might kick me because if it. Should I even try coop at all or just do the domain on a lower level by myself?
Barbara healer is fine in coop. Because your job isnt to do dmg, its to heal the dmg dealers so they can do it. The issue many people have here is that shielders in coop need constellations to share their shield but Zhongli’s coop shield is unlocked at c2(a five star constellation and not a four star constellation like other shileders)Meaning if he’s built pure shielding Zhongli, he is not only a burden to the team who doesnt benefit from him shield, he also has no dmg to contribute to killing Azdaha. With healers, you keep the dps alive. Buffers help deal more dmg and subdps/dps characters do the dmg. A selfish shielder like Zhongli at c0 can do nothing in coop that will benefit the other players than survive through the battle which means you basically have dead weight taking up a slot that couldve gone to another more useful character
You should definitely do coop still! It’s a valuable tool for clearing hard domains faster or at all if you’re having a lot of trouble. If someone gives you criticism for asking for help, that’s their problem. If they get angry at your lack of built characters they can leave the coop at any time.
I rarely see any barbara doing big dmg as healer u should heal others so u should definitely use her if u can't use ayaka also don't waste ur resin on low lvl domain try being host for lvl 45 domains that way higher ar ppl will join u and carry and u can be healer
Honestly they werent being toxic. If yiu cant bring anything to help the team, dont Co op. Cant do damage? Cant heal? Cant provide shields? Dont join co op. Itll be faster if you do it alone than in co op at that point
before you guys calling Alfa a toxic player, think again, not all players in azhada are just to have fun doing failed runs. . you can see in the video, the boss becomes harder if someone is messing around lol. the point ppl do coop on azhda is because they cannot kill it themselves, then in coop comes ppl who mess around with "i can do whatever i want" mindset
@@Windy2468 do you even watch the video? who the fuk care about PERFECT run? ppl just want it finish. . host and alfa clearly looks like a newbie despite the rank, Alfa is the type to quickly blame others like losers despite he himself is newbie . the one using kuki intended to support, i bet kuki actually has good dps character if he want to dps. his kuki deal 36k burst means its at least decently built . Jimmy is the only one actually doing dps but he intended to make content not exactly to win the battle fast, just to have fun taking it longer. . now you can see why the run fail to be fun as game?
Damn! I’ve met a lot of of really chill people in co-op, the closest I got to meeting a toxic guy was a Russian dude was was on a rant about not liking Ukraine though that could have been due to translation errors
They were correct tho… that boss has 70% geo res anyway why bring zhongli in if he’s just gonna be useless to the team, they didn’t even say it in a mean tone yall take everything to heart oml.
He has resist shread for all elements and if he has TOTM and favonius lance he buffs all attacks and shields with 100% uptime, batteries everyone and doesn't even need his burst except to . 70 resist a non factor
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We get why they said that, but they didn't have to be so toxic about it. And they just left?? Man. I'd understand if they explained why in a non-toxic way. Imagine if Jimmy left, too. How would that player have felt? They might've gotten hurt to try co-op again.
Lmaoo mine is the opposite..i thought the zhongli was c0 (which i assume since the majority wont be whaling) and i brought in yaoyao..it was c6 and i was like..welp if i knew id bring in dps, sorry
I don't think they were toxic (they didn't mean it rudely, they just said something they thought the Zhong player didn't know), but it's so funny to see people being picky about co-op picks lol. As if it's a competitive esport and we need maximum efficiency, and any suboptimal choice is a burden on society 😂 It's not that deep. Oh someone locked in lvl 60 candace? Idc, I'm starting the domain. We win or we vibe If you're soooo concerned with efficiency and getting a strong team, just start co-op as host and then you can kick whoever you want... no one is forcing you to play with "bad teammates". You have no excuse to act like other people are the problem and you're just a victim and a co-op saint
esport, efficiency, optimal, who the fuk care with those bulshit? ppl are free to choose playing any characters, but at least someone needs to actually able finish the run. do you think keep failing the boss fight is fun?
I can only tolerate C0 Zhongli in co-op weekly bosses from low AR players (below 56) since they probably afraid of dying early/don't have any well built character other than him and high AR players who at least have self awareness to mention his cons before the battle starts so that someone else in the party could be a healer/prepare NRE. It's selfish for high AR players to bring non C2 Zhongli without mentioning his cons to the party and assume everyone can survive without a healer and they'd leave instantly when everyone dies except for themselves cuz they don't want to be blamed. I've experienced this several times and I can't stand these type of players 😡
Im not with host side or free user side ,,only can i tell if you dont like people complain just leave the world and make you OWN room becoming host .. too much complaints just for a small matter .. .. no need to call other player toxic for small problem ,, its easy decision .... If kid we understand it but if you growup man/women stop being childish
this is one of the reason why i stop doing coop there are now players that acts they know everything, if they're really that good then why did they die first.
because that alfa player and host are actually both newbies. alfa is talking much despite he actually cant carry the run. there are players like that. i personally would at least use character that can finish the fight solo if other players want to have fun using whoever they want
ohhh I never knew that C0 daddy Zhong wouldnt put a shield on other players in coop. Good thing I dont do coops. I dodged a bullet right there. I mean, for someone that like that plays Genshin for casual fun, I dont really remember nor understand much about the mechanics of plays and stuff. I cant even understand that hyperbloom, burning whatever team in its entirety. Or which character to use as battery or whatnot. Meh, my head would ache. As long as it gets the job done, I'm happy. So yeah, no coop for me. Though people can come to my world and get resources. I'm good with that. I also kinda dont want to bother people too much with farming items.
Just don't do co-op.. You can use whoever you want in your world. And no one will mess your plan up. No one will mess with what you want. I can understand that it's fun to do co-op for exploring. But for domains and bosses? Co-op? What for? You cannot take it down yourself? Dang..
Well it's not that bad comparing i meet this certain hutao player. I use Yao² since there's no healer+1p low lvl player. Try use skill less as possible but teammates dying so i had to heal. This certain Hutao player complain with rude word 'F Yao²' then leaving. Idk if someone hate co-op then don't do it. It's not that hard lol.
Just a toxic player... I have a friend with Hu Tao and she is perfectly fine when I heal her. As a HuTao user myself I'm also fine when someone heals me. It's no problem to get low HP - just let boss hit you, so I don't understand when people spread toxity over healing Hu Tao. I take her for fun, not to show off her damage. And by the way, those who hate healing usually die first >:)
@@itachiakaai Yeah some hu tao mains are so sweet. They even play her at full hp and they tabk you when you heal them. She may do less damge but she's still viable.
i think people should usually be able to use whatever characters they want, but if ur bringing level 1 characters or smth low like that, im gnna have to ask u to change
Totally agree, it's annoying seeing high AR player who bring C0 Zhongli without mentioning his cons to teammates as if they assume everyone can dodge and it'd be their own fault if they die without a healer in the party.
Эм, он сдох не потому, что дед был не с2, а потому что так вышло. Почему остальные персонажи могут быть использованы в качестве дд, хотя они не дают щитов, а дед с0 нет? Он тоже дамажит и тоже не дает щиты, как та же самая Аяка. Так в чем, черт побери, проблема?! В том, что он ГИПОТЕТИЧЕСКИ может их давать?!
Why blaming each other when the problem is clearly hoyoverse making this nonsense? Why can a healer heal others but a shielder can’t shield others? It makes literally no sense. A co-op constellation is just stupid, in particularly in a single player game
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No zhongli :')
C0 cuz I don't even have him-
No Zhongli
@@_.rstuaresopretty well, technically talking it wouldn't even be c0, since having the character itself counts as c0
Now at C2. My goal is to C6 him one day.
I agree with you jimmy. In coop we should use just any character that we built. I'm glad so far I never met any toxic player in coop domain
if someone joins my world and tries to use a lvl 60 character id just laught in chat but start,, we are gonna clear either way so it really isnt that deep
As long as the character actually helps in beating the boss it's fine.
Kinda unlucky cuz since I got nilou and nahida I never coop again…💀
@@Childe005 well i think they're both decent in coop, but if most of them didn't use dendro related comp, you can try use and build other versatile characters in the future. Yes it may take some time to build them properly but in the long run, I'll say it's worth it
But don't be dumb and make coop harder, the world doesn't revolve around you.
Kuki running within 2 feet to heal u: 😭⚡️
Baizhu healing from 200 feet away: "mind the side effects" 🌱🐍🍃😏
Coop will be much easier to breathe and more interesting to play without toxicity. I met many players that confessed they are not eager to join coops as they are uncomfortable with toxic players.
Come on, this is a game, game where we can sit and enjoy whatever character we use, not to be ashamed for our characters being "weak", "not enough cons to support team"
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But they were right? Why would you bring a shield built Zhongli into an AZDAHA domain? You can only shield yourself if u are c0. Everyone else will die except you and you can’t do any dmg to it without teammates. It makes no sense.
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Exactly. I get that you should be allowed to play any character but bringing characters that dont support your teammates *or* do dmg doesnt make any sense. You’ll be wasting people’s time by trying to chip it down with three digit dmg numbers. Zhongli is one out of 50 characters. Surely, you must have someone else built enough to not use him
@@seraphywang4638 yup, at such point is just a selfish or clueless decision
Not every person in this world has enough money/luck/whatever to pull for constellations. It’s not the best option for coop but please be polite to each other
But its useless to use shielder without sharing shield??? Unless that character can do more
@@elijahang3968 Exactly dude. Just use a healer instead.
@@elijahang3968the game is for fun so no need to get mad i don't mind when i die in co-op bcz who cares??its a game you can try again and its more fun when its hard(for me at least)like yeah i know its best if they put healer/shielder but like there's players who blame you if they died even tho its not your fault
Anyways if that happened to you please don't get mad like try it and if you failed tell them to switch but be nice there's ppl who get hurt when you get angry
@@elijahang3968 I can live without a shield and I don’t mind if only one person got a shield. Another person can use a healer or the team is strong enough to fight without a shield or a healer
@@elijahang3968 C0 Zhongli is still useful in Azdaha, he can be used to tank his attacks and taunt Azdaha to attack him while other players can choose long-range characters and attack from afar, I guess just not that many people think about this strategy
I do understand why some people don’t like C0 Zhongli… If he’s not using a DPS build when at C0 in co-op,it doesn’t really benefit anyone since you can only keep yourself alive but do no damage. If you’re gonna use Zhongli in co-op you have to be prepared to use either a DPS build or have him at C2.
Yeah, especially when you use C0 Zhongli against Azhdaha, who has 70% Geo RES
@@SeoRoBinthen zhongli needs a physical build😅
this is the most logic comment so far. understanding yourself for not being a burden to the other is also important. i'd rather have someone as a healer than c0 zhongli.
Dps build even at c0 isn’t his best build, best build across the board is shield bot. The c2 doesn’t change that but it makes him “easier” to play by saving time so you don’t have to hold E and helps in co op a bit. But even in this case if he was c0 it wouldn’t be a issue unless they wanted to stay close to azdaha(which is what get most of the players killed against azdaha) to Grief for damage. You have way more than enough time to run away from the stomps and dodge his attacks.
Edit: granted you would probably be better off playing a healer or a actual dps character but if he’s your only character than built then it is what it is.
@@CorinLock we’re not talking about his best build normally when you’re using him in your own teams. C0 shieldbot zhongli has no utility in co-op because he cannot give his teammates shields and also does no damage. At that point you’re basically there to look pretty while your teammates do the work. C2 shieldbot is fine because it gives teammates shields in co-op. That’s why the og commenter says don’t bring c0 zhongli without a dps build, because otherwise you’re not helping anyone.
Honestly speaking, unless they're the host, I don't really like when someone brings c0 zl in a harder fight like this- especially to azhdaha he has a TON of geo res. Idk I feel like it's somewhat of an unwritten rule that the host can bring anyone they want because they're canonically the one needing the help, as the rest of the team just happened to spawn in TwT.
Though, it's sweet if instead of assuming things, teammates in the party discuss the best way to fight but that doesn't happen often
Props to you for playing with him
I met a player who didn't want me to use Barbara when we were in the Emblem and Shimenawa domains. To be honest, at that time, I didn't really have a good healer and support. I didn't even have Bennett; I still don't have him now. So, I just left their world.
I understand your concern.
I'm also a bit worried that my characters might not be strong enough to join co-op. I'm still working on building them up; currently, I'm at AR45. That's why I've been joining co-op sessions for artifact farming
If youre in asia, id be happy to help...honestly if theyre there to help you, (They should) just be sure to be able to carry a bit at least... (Tho in turn the ones being helped doesnt criticize the helpers build. Id had people done that and im like..dude im helping YOU with this build)
this is may old but dont be afraid let someone help you or ignore people whoever tell you dont play barbara etc etc
Respect your decision for making right choice than other people who complain player toxic for just small matters
Just play whoever you want. It's not that deep, but some people be treating co-op domains as if they need maximum efficiency like a competitive team esport lmao. I've seen people bring in clearly unsuitable choices and we just start with no hesitation or complaints and beat the domain anyways
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Idk why y’all are calling the Ayaka toxic when all she really said was “No Zhongli if no c2” which makes sense. Why bring a c0 Zhongli who nots built as a dps to an AZDAHA domain.
Cause anyone can play with any character they want? I brought kazuha against the anemo hypostasis. Maybe that person used zhongli so that they wouldn't have died instantly
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Yes but the issue here is that shield bot Zhongli’s cant do any dmg and then the fight lasts literally forever because he can only do three digit dmg. Its a waste of everyone’s time. Not everyone wants a challenge. People go to coop to get carried or to have fun. Shiled bot Zhongli doesnt support or do which makes him annoying to deal with a teammate.
Maybe they were confused at who they should bring? I know I get confused by that a lot because my Chongyun is often just in the way because people bring ayaka so I often just go Layla to provide coop shields or a healer which is a whole other issue with some hu taos. This is to say that sometimes people bring certain team comps some players don’t have anyone built for or their only character is the same as or similar to another. They probably were trying to not step on anyones’ toes.
(Edit is an accidental extra and in the above text sorry)
plus they didn't clear the first time so they definitely need more contribution from a fourth player. sure they can play the characters they like but other players aren't obligated to carry them either and aren't toxic for asking for an easier run
@seraphywang4638 mine at level 80 with lvl 1 artifacts (of different sets) does max 12k, and it's shield for now it's strong
For me, when I see a player using Zhongli, I ask if they’re C2. If not, I just cry a little and hope we have a healer. Azhdah has probably one of the stupidest aoe attacks that if you don’t have a shield, you’re probably screwed.
I don't really care what characters they play as long they can finish the domain or boss.
I continue playing gi because I met a lot of good people here. But only recently I also met toxic ones, I kept explaining I'm just new and still need a lot of things to know, I felt bad about myself,and find it scared playing game, where people can just anything they want without knowing not all players are just playing to have fun, but most are just playing this game to cope with every day struggle in life
I hope you only find good people...just leave if thats the case, especially if youre helping them. I get (some of them) are kids, but thats no excuse to be an ass
thats what friend list for. meet strong players, be friend and ask for help clearing things in game. random coop is filled with uncertain ppl with different goals. like in this video, host and alfa are both newbies, kuki player i doing support because other might need it, jimmy is doing this for content, not for clearing it fast
Imo, play whoever you like. Of course, more useful the better, but in worst case he will be there to provide res shred. Sometimes there are bad matches and that's fine. It's just a game after all
Remembered how once i entered scaramouche fight with yaoyao, the others are diona, ganyu and nahida..ganyu died and left, and nahida followed... It was yaoyao and diona and we each did two digit damage lol. But the heals are unstoppable
Zhongli at c0 is still good at that domain. Just that it is harder on the team and they have to work harder. It is still good fun to use true gaming skill against this boss and not rely too much on shields or heals.
Unless Zhongli is using a dps build or burst then no not rlly
If it's a full HP build, it's useless.
C0 Zhongli is actually just a deadweight to that domain especially if you build him as a shield bot.. Even Barbara or Amber is more useful than Zhongli on Azhdaha domain who has 70% Geo Resistance..
Everyone needs help, had an AR50 join my world who kept apologizing they couldn't beat the oceanid. Happy to help, I just asked them to bring any Cryo character cause my Ayaka is queen with that boss.
Oceanid is HELL..i cant beat it till i got keqing... Nowadays i wont pass up chances to beat up oceanid. Just tell me we are beating oceanid and ill be there!
always love to see some positivity i wish people werent judgemental or toxic about characters i think its fine for c0 zhongli its no problem as long as they mention it i can always be the healer or something
As long as he's a dps build then sure
@@cajunseasoning1846I don't care if he dps c0 or tank c0, I'm starting the domain
I think is ok for artifacts domain but when I see zhongli in trounce domain I auto assume that it’s a c2 at least. But even if it isn’t I’ll just be disappointed internally and eat more food if I have to, won’t really say much and maybe switch to a better healer next round 😢
Jimmy, ive been watching yoyr videos for months, all i can say is that genshin really needs to utilize coop more, the most fun i have in this game is coop (and when i get a new character lol)
Something like a coop abyss or coop challenges BUT include trial characters which we should use to avoid the whales with c6 characters ending enemies in 1 second and stuff like that
Why not try in single player ,,
C0 Zhongli should be in dps build instead of a support that way he is useful for crowd controlling enemies if he has C2 then go for Support build it is much better👌
but azhdaha has geo resistance why are u bringing a geo dps to his boss fight
Thas bull
Everyone can use any character they want, and they're not obliged to waste money so that coop can be "more comfy" for other players
This is why when I get bored, I always play random coop weekly domains just to flex a c2 zhong and helping some comrades out there.
That’s just so weird, they’re not even the host and they’re trying to command how others should play(which the host shouldn’t be able to do either but you get the point), even if your zhongli was 0, that wouldn’t affect how the others would play unless they’re trying to GREIF for damage by staying close to azdaha and eventually dying. You even have more than enough time to run back away from him while he’s doing the stomps. But you should be able to bring whoever you have built as long as you aren’t trying to troll. But building characters are hard, I have every c6 except for dehya and I can play less than 10 of those characters due to the artifact system rng.
This is a game and is make for fun. I think they should bring any character they want to play. Besides if is a team cooperation game. They all most play and help each other to overcome the weakness. I sometimes play agains hydro characters with my yelan c6 xd since is stronger than all my pyro characters 😅
I hate seeing c0 Zhonglis in coop with 0 Dmg. I mean, some people join coop to find people to help them, and your Zhongli is USELESS.
Personally as 59 ar player I use my well built characters to help the beginners
Yeah actually c0 is good for the single player cz it can help us
But if it's coop... Then any character who can just shield themselves and provide nothing to the team is bad
Then that player is just useless cz he's literally just enjoying the view😑
Honestly that person is 100% right lmao. People coop to make the domain easier not harder. If zhongli is c0 with a hp build , dont bring him to domains. You will only be a burden to other players lol
Right? Like... This wasnt toxic. Dont co op if you cant do any damage or cant do anything to help the rest of the team like shielding or healing.
@@LordOfTheUnderworld even just barbara with random artifact will be more appreciated for little heal i can get
@@lqfr8813 Right??? The difference is that at least even a level 40 barbara is useful in co op because she can heal the others in the team. A C0 level 90 zhongli offers nothing to the rest of the team whatsoever
@@LordOfTheUnderworldyou are aware zhongli also offers like a 20% decreased resistance to all elements, right? Him being on the team does help even if it’s unnoticeable.
@@talah6651 thats negligible help. A full on support is more useful, like a bennet, sucrose, kazuha, even a rosaria would be more useful than a C0 Zhongli. And dont get me wrong. Zhongli is a staple in my teams, usually a must have. But in Co Op, a C0 Zhongli just doesnt cut it. 20% res shred and *nothing else* is what he brings, not damage, not healing not shielding. Thats hardly a good enough reason to keep him. Take a built Lisa instead, she gives defense shred and damage at least
I am curious on what you guys think about “useless” characters. I am pretty new to Genshin and my 1st 5 star was Ayaka. When I tried to do this domain before, there’s always someone with a better Ayaka than me, so I have to switch my character out. Problem is, my 2nd best character is Barbara. I have her on a full healer support build so she barely does any damage. I honestly feel so useless in this situation, and afraid other people might kick me because if it. Should I even try coop at all or just do the domain on a lower level by myself?
Barbara healer is fine in coop. Because your job isnt to do dmg, its to heal the dmg dealers so they can do it. The issue many people have here is that shielders in coop need constellations to share their shield but Zhongli’s coop shield is unlocked at c2(a five star constellation and not a four star constellation like other shileders)Meaning if he’s built pure shielding Zhongli, he is not only a burden to the team who doesnt benefit from him shield, he also has no dmg to contribute to killing Azdaha.
With healers, you keep the dps alive. Buffers help deal more dmg and subdps/dps characters do the dmg. A selfish shielder like Zhongli at c0 can do nothing in coop that will benefit the other players than survive through the battle which means you basically have dead weight taking up a slot that couldve gone to another more useful character
You should definitely do coop still! It’s a valuable tool for clearing hard domains faster or at all if you’re having a lot of trouble. If someone gives you criticism for asking for help, that’s their problem. If they get angry at your lack of built characters they can leave the coop at any time.
I rarely see any barbara doing big dmg as healer u should heal others so u should definitely use her if u can't use ayaka also don't waste ur resin on low lvl domain try being host for lvl 45 domains that way higher ar ppl will join u and carry and u can be healer
It's always much better to bring a healer than a c0 zhongli.
My Barbara can deal 80k damage with food.
At 2:35, it looks like a Raiden showcase team (Ofc, if their Ayaka is C4)
I hate it when they are not c2 or a dps .......
More little azdaha voice 😂 lmao I love it
Honestly they werent being toxic. If yiu cant bring anything to help the team, dont Co op. Cant do damage? Cant heal? Cant provide shields? Dont join co op. Itll be faster if you do it alone than in co op at that point
This is why I don’t co op, toxic people exist plus I need to build my characters more
before you guys calling Alfa a toxic player, think again, not all players in azhada are just to have fun doing failed runs.
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you can see in the video, the boss becomes harder if someone is messing around lol. the point ppl do coop on azhda is because they cannot kill it themselves, then in coop comes ppl who mess around with "i can do whatever i want" mindset
The world doesn't revolve around u either. If YOU want perfect runs, just start co-op as host, then you can kick whoever you want
@@Windy2468 do you even watch the video? who the fuk care about PERFECT run? ppl just want it finish.
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host and alfa clearly looks like a newbie despite the rank, Alfa is the type to quickly blame others like losers despite he himself is newbie
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the one using kuki intended to support, i bet kuki actually has good dps character if he want to dps. his kuki deal 36k burst means its at least decently built
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Jimmy is the only one actually doing dps but he intended to make content not exactly to win the battle fast, just to have fun taking it longer.
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now you can see why the run fail to be fun as game?
Damn! I’ve met a lot of of really chill people in co-op, the closest I got to meeting a toxic guy was a Russian dude was was on a rant about not liking Ukraine though that could have been due to translation errors
When the first time i try co op, i met with a toxic and yelan hater (im a yelan main) 🗿 so bcz of it i dint brave to try co op again😫
lol idk if I would say it straight up like that but I felt their pain
They were correct tho… that boss has 70% geo res anyway why bring zhongli in if he’s just gonna be useless to the team, they didn’t even say it in a mean tone yall take everything to heart oml.
He has resist shread for all elements and if he has TOTM and favonius lance he buffs all attacks and shields with 100% uptime, batteries everyone and doesn't even need his burst except to . 70 resist a non factor
@@icykidjust bring kazuha then he provides more res shread and even increases elemental damage bonus lol
I don't directly play Multiplayer because I feel that my characters are not very strong (I'm really new to Genshin even though it's Ar 45 With 50 thousand experience saved why I can't pass the ascension mastery D:)
PD:I speak Spanish and I like your videos, keep it up xd
1:20 the scream
Just build full EM Zhongli. Crystallize ftw lol
I like to explore in coop I like to have fun with other but I know some just wanna fight bosses
We get why they said that, but they didn't have to be so toxic about it. And they just left?? Man. I'd understand if they explained why in a non-toxic way. Imagine if Jimmy left, too. How would that player have felt? They might've gotten hurt to try co-op again.
@@WhoIs_ENTR🙀😹 can't beleive how soft are these peoples 😹😹they even get traumatized after such incidents 🙀🙀🙀🙀😭😭😭😛🙀😭
Too afraid for co op since I am afraid people will say ‘your build suck’.
Yeah. As negative as Wanderer: me.
Yeah just leave the world..no use mulling over it. Your build doesnt suck if youre having fun with it (and as long as the enemies die)
I'm sorry but I'm on Ayaka player's side
Zl shield bot at c0-c1 is useless in this domain unless u build him as decent dps
For me I'm asking just in case. If their zhongli is c0, then I'll use diona to compensate
Lmaoo mine is the opposite..i thought the zhongli was c0 (which i assume since the majority wont be whaling) and i brought in yaoyao..it was c6 and i was like..welp if i knew id bring in dps, sorry
Can I ask a question? As a mobile player for some reason I can't write in the chat, do you know why??
(I'm playing in the Europe server)
did the problem resolved?
@lqfr8813 Oh yep dw about it ;)
I don't think they were toxic (they didn't mean it rudely, they just said something they thought the Zhong player didn't know), but it's so funny to see people being picky about co-op picks lol. As if it's a competitive esport and we need maximum efficiency, and any suboptimal choice is a burden on society 😂 It's not that deep. Oh someone locked in lvl 60 candace? Idc, I'm starting the domain. We win or we vibe
If you're soooo concerned with efficiency and getting a strong team, just start co-op as host and then you can kick whoever you want... no one is forcing you to play with "bad teammates". You have no excuse to act like other people are the problem and you're just a victim and a co-op saint
esport, efficiency, optimal, who the fuk care with those bulshit? ppl are free to choose playing any characters, but at least someone needs to actually able finish the run. do you think keep failing the boss fight is fun?
@@lqfr8813 why don't u carry the run then, skill issue 🫡
I can only tolerate C0 Zhongli in co-op weekly bosses from low AR players (below 56) since they probably afraid of dying early/don't have any well built character other than him and high AR players who at least have self awareness to mention his cons before the battle starts so that someone else in the party could be a healer/prepare NRE.
It's selfish for high AR players to bring non C2 Zhongli without mentioning his cons to the party and assume everyone can survive without a healer and they'd leave instantly when everyone dies except for themselves cuz they don't want to be blamed. I've experienced this several times and I can't stand these type of players 😡
Im not with host side or free user side ,,only can i tell if you dont like people complain just leave the world and make you OWN room becoming host .. too much complaints just for a small matter .. .. no need to call other player toxic for small problem ,, its easy decision .... If kid we understand it but if you growup man/women stop being childish
Me who always play keqing in co op:
*God of dodging*
this is one of the reason why i stop doing coop there are now players that acts they know everything, if they're really that good then why did they die first.
because that alfa player and host are actually both newbies. alfa is talking much despite he actually cant carry the run. there are players like that. i personally would at least use character that can finish the fight solo if other players want to have fun using whoever they want
I’m getting zhongli and I don’t know what team to give him with the littlest amount of 5 stars
ohhh I never knew that C0 daddy Zhong wouldnt put a shield on other players in coop. Good thing I dont do coops. I dodged a bullet right there.
I mean, for someone that like that plays Genshin for casual fun, I dont really remember nor understand much about the mechanics of plays and stuff. I cant even understand that hyperbloom, burning whatever team in its entirety. Or which character to use as battery or whatnot. Meh, my head would ache. As long as it gets the job done, I'm happy. So yeah, no coop for me. Though people can come to my world and get resources. I'm good with that.
I also kinda dont want to bother people too much with farming items.
she ate
Just don't do co-op.. You can use whoever you want in your world. And no one will mess your plan up. No one will mess with what you want.
I can understand that it's fun to do co-op for exploring. But for domains and bosses? Co-op? What for? You cannot take it down yourself? Dang..
5Mins late BUT EARLYYYY
Well it's not that bad comparing i meet this certain hutao player. I use Yao² since there's no healer+1p low lvl player. Try use skill less as possible but teammates dying so i had to heal. This certain Hutao player complain with rude word 'F Yao²' then leaving. Idk if someone hate co-op then don't do it. It's not that hard lol.
Just a toxic player... I have a friend with Hu Tao and she is perfectly fine when I heal her. As a HuTao user myself I'm also fine when someone heals me. It's no problem to get low HP - just let boss hit you, so I don't understand when people spread toxity over healing Hu Tao. I take her for fun, not to show off her damage. And by the way, those who hate healing usually die first >:)
@@itachiakaai Yeah some hu tao mains are so sweet. They even play her at full hp and they tabk you when you heal them. She may do less damge but she's still viable.
i think people should usually be able to use whatever characters they want, but if ur bringing level 1 characters or smth low like that, im gnna have to ask u to change
fact : use c0 zhongli still cringe and selfish anyway not gonna change
@@fartmaster2292 say that all you want whats really selfish is c6 bennet and not warning anyone even tho u can use chat fine
@@DawnMacaron atleast still able to do more dmg than your c0 clownli
@@fartmaster2292 you mean -1 because i dont even have him
@@DawnMacaron I dOnT eVeN hAvE hIM 🤡
i am ok with zhongli c0 but say it bc if he is c2 i bring a healer for nothing 😂
Totally agree, it's annoying seeing high AR player who bring C0 Zhongli without mentioning his cons to teammates as if they assume everyone can dodge and it'd be their own fault if they die without a healer in the party.
@@MeloPinkyPink exactly
Эм, он сдох не потому, что дед был не с2, а потому что так вышло. Почему остальные персонажи могут быть использованы в качестве дд, хотя они не дают щитов, а дед с0 нет? Он тоже дамажит и тоже не дает щиты, как та же самая Аяка. Так в чем, черт побери, проблема?! В том, что он ГИПОТЕТИЧЕСКИ может их давать?!
KUKI CAN HEAL IN CO-OP!?!?!?!??!?!
Yes
Every healer
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It feels illegal to be the first in the comments
No Ayaka if not c6
My C3 Layla more useful than Strongest C0 zongli in COOP
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Why blaming each other when the problem is clearly hoyoverse making this nonsense? Why can a healer heal others but a shielder can’t shield others? It makes literally no sense. A co-op constellation is just stupid, in particularly in a single player game
because they want ppl to spend more $$ on zhongli const. thats the basic tactic to sell gacha game, makes problem with solution from $$
@@lqfr8813 I know it’s because of money but the average person wouldn’t go for C2 just for the sake of co op
C0 Zhongli in coop is cringe
we early!!
Skill issue
That was an selfish Bastard anyways. I respect Jimmy C6 Zhongli more.
Jimmy has no enemies