The BIG Problem With The NEW Mavic 3 Pro | (Outside the US)

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  • @GAVINHR
    @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว +12

    **For clarity, UK A2 CofC allows 50m distance up to 2KG Drones therefore gaining this qualification would be a huge advantage if you was to buy the Mavic 3 Pro**

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@someOne-ef8tl i could if you guys want a refresher, I tend to leave that to channels like @geeksvana but if it’s requested I can go back through it :)

    • @maxv77
      @maxv77 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't to want to upgrade to anymore dji drones. I've stopped at the mini 3 Pro.
      Dji has had enough of my money. And find it ridiculous to spend thousands just to get the lasted all singing and dancing drone. That you then can't fly anywhere 😂
      I'm still not convinced most could tell if you filmed something on the mini3 Pro or a mavic 3 Pro.
      If dji would just add weypoints for the mini 3 Pro. That would be the iceing on the cake.

    • @123adgie
      @123adgie ปีที่แล้ว

      What if u fly under article 16 if ur with a drone club?

    • @123adgie
      @123adgie ปีที่แล้ว

      @GAVINHR

    • @123adgie
      @123adgie ปีที่แล้ว

      What about if you fly under article 16 m8?

  • @okanaganpeterjames
    @okanaganpeterjames ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In Canada we need a basic pilot certificate to fly 250 gram to 25 kg and advanced certificate and pass an in person flight review to fly near airports and within 30 meters of people. Just gotta take the tests to fly these drones.

    • @RandomPickles
      @RandomPickles ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that for groups of people? I thought you just couldn't fly over their head.

    • @popitastic
      @popitastic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Canada is a basket case country to be fair with Trudeau in charge...

  • @rainerzuehlke501
    @rainerzuehlke501 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "A massive, massive problem" (quote) ?
    Flying away from people is always a good idea. Apart from that, getting a UK U2 CofC or EASA A2 license is not really difficult. It does take some time to prepare for the examination but it is all online, conveniently. The additional knowledge gained does not hurt either. Anyone who's willing to spend approx. 2200-4500 USD for a UAV should not bother too much about the additional cost of 100-150 USD for a mandatory online course and examination.

  • @kidsteel080
    @kidsteel080 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Who cares i just fly anyway

  • @volvodashcam
    @volvodashcam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The rules say that with C2 (that the Mavic 3 Pro is) it can be flewn within 30 meters of people ir as clowe as 5 meters if using the slow speed mode.

    • @JustasJ
      @JustasJ ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that is correct, im thinking the same and I dont see anyone mentioning it. I think I will buy Mavic 3 pro and thats it.

  • @cheekyoscar1353
    @cheekyoscar1353 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    interesting so can you confirm if I was to do the " A2 " exam this with them not be a problem with mavic 3 pro etc . thanks mate

  • @kamikazekaos
    @kamikazekaos ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your forgetting this drone has great zoom features so no need to fly close

    • @petrub27
      @petrub27 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not the same thing, you will have different perspective and compression. Learn your basics about lenses

  • @roadle11223
    @roadle11223 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Canada should also be good from my understanding. 25kg seems to be the upper limit over here for Basic and Advanced operations.

  • @sottheaphoeurng9044
    @sottheaphoeurng9044 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the design of the mavic 3 with 3 cameras but I really want dji to make that as small as dji air 2s size.

  • @viaggiatordazzurropianeta4962
    @viaggiatordazzurropianeta4962 ปีที่แล้ว

    I totally aree with you that's why I bought the Mavic 3 Cine C1 (or V2.0). Simeone says that the 30m limit is solved by the zoom, but they don't understand it's difficult to calculate distance between the drone and moving people. In Europe the Mavic 3 Pro is a beautiful drone but impratical in many areas

  • @AlanHunt73
    @AlanHunt73 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Gav very interesting. Big problems there with the weight

  • @scotsdronecowboy
    @scotsdronecowboy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Gavin - I was recently in touch with DJI regarding the C1 classification for the Mavic 3 Classic, as delivery of mine last month didn't come with the C1 label - something DJI has stopped doing now for units sent to UK residence address. Advised I want to have the freedom to fly the M3 Classic abroad in areas like the Mini 3 Pro. They advised when I am abroad I will be able to request C1 label through the DJI app - and they will post the label to my holiday destination - did explain I would only be there a week! They also advised not to fly the M3 Classic while I am abroad on holiday until I was in receipt of the label - meaning I need to take 2 drones with me!! Personally can't see the label getting to me in time while I am away - what a faff after shelling all this money out! :-(

  • @SpeedfrkOne
    @SpeedfrkOne ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s never about safety it’s always about the money - licenses are not free and the companies offering them are also making a fortune out of this. There should be no restrictions for personal use unless you are using a drone for commercial purposes. Here in Australia no licence is required unless for commercial purposes or the drone is over 25kg. At the rate of the limitations in the UK sales of the latest Mavic 3 Pro will be minimal especially for those who buy one purely for personal use / hobby. This is the problem when one set of rules / regulations differs to each country and region - that too is the problem - there should be a one size fits all approach.

  • @GhostWriter_Music
    @GhostWriter_Music 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    could someone help: I used to fly drones years ago, dji phantom 1 and 2 and custom built models to carry dlsr cameras with the lenses, but looking up at these regulations because I want to get back into filming with them, because its easier to do crane shots than carting a big crane and other gear around, easier to program flight paths to do planned camera moves, seen tracking is a lot better now, so I'm researching what I need to do to be a "responsible" operator. Look I get all these rules and regulations, but not flying closer than 50m when flying 10m in air if the drone is over 500g. is there any training I can do so I am on paper safer than someone with a "toy" drone which doesn't have all these protections?
    I'm specifically looking for if anything exists which will allow me to fly a less than 1kg drone less than 50m from people, not interested in flying over crowds, but things I want to do will attract a few people, and from history, there are people who will walk up to and chat.
    I know about the a1+a3 and also the a2 already.
    found the phantoms very easy to fly, my brother got one of those "toy" drones, quite big, but weighs less than 250g, and that thing wasn't stable at all, but as I read, they don't need to know anything. It just doesn't make sense to me, someone with a £80 "totally safe toy" is going to treat it quite differently to a £1000+ drone with a camera you use to do filming or take pictures.

  • @cruzy1969
    @cruzy1969 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's a bloody shame that, never mind I will stay with the air2 and 2s

  • @whitesnake329
    @whitesnake329 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you join FPVUK , under article 16 does the 40 metre bubble still apply to the mavic 3 classic and NOT the new mavic 3 pro ? I have a C OF C qualification by the way!

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi there, no bubble with article 16! It’s 30m AND you can overfly ! It will apply to both the drones you just mentioned :)

    • @whitesnake329
      @whitesnake329 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GAVINHR This could be worth mentioning in further up dates for those of us still in FPVUK as another option. Think you did a video on this ages ago. Been a avid watcher of your channel for ages !

  • @CaminoAir
    @CaminoAir ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The weight was the first info I searched for at 2pm today. 958g!! Also, DJI's website today showed the standard M3 as out of stock. Maybe this was due to production priorities being temporarily assigned to the M3 Pro? Maybe a sign of DJI's longer strategy?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Since the pro is the same price I believe they have pulled the original drone from sale, if you use google so search Mavic 3 classic the page redirects you to the new PRO

    • @thebaldguyuk
      @thebaldguyuk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They have scraped/discontinued the M3 and M3 Cine and The M3 range is now M3 Classic, M3 Pro and M3 Pro Cine .... I had a 2 hour convo with them yesterday regarding this.

  • @45flavius
    @45flavius ปีที่แล้ว

    DJI have nowadays make a drone for each one of us.....just go out there and buy one that suit your need and inspiration.....all these restriction will be just be a detail

  • @samsabastian5560
    @samsabastian5560 ปีที่แล้ว

    No problems in Aus with the 3 PRO with weight. All drones are heavily restricted anyway.

  • @cheekyoscar1353
    @cheekyoscar1353 ปีที่แล้ว

    please can you answer my question : it's all very complicated to me:
    Can we not fly the new Mavic 3 pro under "A3 " 150 m away from people etc etc ...
    i'm asking this question because I've posted your video on a Facebook group i'm on with and they seem to think that the A3 license is acceptable 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ thanks mate ..

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi there, yes you can fly it 150m away from people you just can’t fly it any closer without any additional qualifications

    • @cheekyoscar1353
      @cheekyoscar1353 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GAVINHR Big thank for your reply 🏆: so it's no different than the maverick classic and mavic 3 as it currently stands at the moment then !

  • @RobertWildling
    @RobertWildling ปีที่แล้ว

    On the other hand, because this drone is C2 certified, it also is allowed to fly faster (forward/backward, but also up/down).

  • @Johncaig7279
    @Johncaig7279 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve just completed the brilliant UAVHub A2CofC course and am confident of passing the exam.
    I did this with the expectation of purchasing the Mavic 3 classic with all the advantages it has over my mini 3 pro.
    But now I’m having second thoughts. If I still do get the Mavic 3 I intend to break two of the fundamental CAA rules and often fly it from my garden, as I do my mini 3. Then I’ll take it up to say a couple of hundred feet and immediately fly it on to where I will follow the rest of the CAA rules regarding separation etc.
    I will do this on the basis that it’s extremely unlikely to crash and even more unlikely to damage anything even if it did.
    As for breaking the VLOS rule that I have consistently broken with my mini 3 pro, my feeling is this. The reason I see this rule consistently being broken is that it’s unreasonable to expect a pilot to see the orientation of one’s drone even as close as 150 metres when one is inevitably looking at one’s screen frequently as well. And at 500 metres away the same applies.
    So the question is do I still buy the superb Mavic 3 classic bearing in mind what I’ve said?

    • @whitesnake329
      @whitesnake329 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought exactly the same as you and have passed my C of C hoping to upgrade my mavic 2 pro to the classic . I in fact just bought the mini 3 pro and sold my mini 2! I even joined FPVUK and under article 16 gives a little better flying area of 40m in a bubble, and has good liability insurance, you may wish to consider this in the future!

    • @Johncaig7279
      @Johncaig7279 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whitesnake329 I already fly the mini 3 pro and I have joined FPVUK and have their insurance etc. but the Mavic offers just so much more. The idea of setting up a repeatable loop of waypoints appeals in particular.

    • @whitesnake329
      @whitesnake329 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Johncaig7279 I agree this was a big selling point for me too and the cruise control feature, however, I have used my mini 2 using Lithci and drone harmony with my Mavic 2 pro for a cheaper option.

    • @Johncaig7279
      @Johncaig7279 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whitesnake329 Thanks for that.

  • @izoyt
    @izoyt ปีที่แล้ว

    how about this: since it does have c classification, it will be actually allowed in urban eras (under restrictions mentioned) after end od 2023, while all older drones above 250g in open category wont.
    beside that, there should be revision of drone legislation for open category, related also to drone classes, but this looks like it have been postponed. oh, and there's always is a chance of battery with lower mass, so you don't exceed 900g mark.

  • @SpeedsterIG
    @SpeedsterIG ปีที่แล้ว

    You made an important point here. Perhaps they will sell us a lighter battery to create a possibilty to get into C1.

    • @r24044
      @r24044 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It doesn’t help. It counts the MTOM not TOM….the MTOM of Mavic 3 Pro is 958g no matter which battery you use.

  • @londenard
    @londenard ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You do realize that the EU and UK are just a small part of the world "outside of the US", right? I have REALLY bad news for you, the Mavic 4 will be even heavier because of the Optical Zoom on the main sensor. The good news is that with the tele lenses you can afford to be further away or... you can just buy the Mavic 3 Classic. DJI can't be bothered to manufacture all of their drones with your goofy regulations in mind.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do realise that, I also realise that there are lots more places with even tighter restrictions. Ah well, at least we don't have remote I.D :)

    • @londenard
      @londenard ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GAVINHR True... However, Remote ID might afford us BVLOS operations AND there are strong rumors that DJI might drop NFZs once Remote ID is full implemented as they will no longer be necessary. So there might be a silver lining in this cloud!

    • @lake1guy
      @lake1guy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@londenardRemote ID will only affect idiots that illegally fly near airports, stadiums and above 400 feet AGL etc. Remote ID won’t prevent someone with bad intentions from flying in to No Fly Zone. I don’t think DJI will get rid of NFZ-GeoFence. It would be bad for business if incursions into NFZ happen. And since DJI dominates the drone market, it would be especially bad for their business…not just the drone industry as a whole. DJI would have the most to lose if they got rid of NFZ. DJI doesn’t want bad publicity. Bad publicity hurts sales and increases the likelihood of tighter government restrictions.

    • @londenard
      @londenard ปีที่แล้ว

      @lake1guy The government has already attacked DJI in multiple ways. Just recently, a military contractor sued DJI claiming that they've patented hovering and active track. No other drone company, like Skydio, for example, was sued. Just DJI. Strange since, obviously, DJI isn't the only company whose drones have these features, and they've had them for almost a decade. Why the sudden lawsuit from a government contractor?
      DJI is under no obligation to implement NFZs, they are required to implement Remote ID. As far as marketing goes, they lose sales because other companies use NFZs as a sales tool against DJI. If it weren't for NFZs, Autel wouldn't be in business, quite frankly. They've built their entire marketing strategy on being able to be flown "anywhere". Not to mention the annual cost DJI incurs maintaining the system. Let's put it this way, cars aren't forced to travel lthe speed imit, they easily could be. Thousands of people die every year. Doesn't stop Dodge from showcasing their cars doing burnouts.
      In any case, I hear this from one of the directors of DJI"s Enterprise division in North America. He said, "they are considering it." I'll tell you one thing for free, if DJI get banned from selling their drones in the US, the geofencing comes down the next day. Mark my words.

  • @skyphotoTV
    @skyphotoTV ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry mate, in europe, the mavic 3 classic it will be a C2 classe drone.
    So, until the EU complies with its own rules (have a web site with the Geozones and the capabilities of assuring the remote ID), the mavic 3Pro is a Legacy drone for the A2 class.
    And with it it only could fly to 50m of uninvolve people.
    After EU as the full rules aply, wiht the Geozones and Rmote id, the Mavic 3 pro is a C2 classe drone, that could operate in the open category, sub-category A2, and it could be at 30m of uninvolve peole and it could go up to 5m at low speed (less than 3ms)

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed, but if it was class 1 it would be closer :)

  • @DerbJd
    @DerbJd ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why the DJI Mini range will always be king in the UK

  • @Lee-zg3gx
    @Lee-zg3gx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 11th hour mate…. More like they waited a couple weeks after people had already purchased the Mavic 3 Classic to change the frickin rules! They COMPLETELY screwed us all over, and for what….just because they now have the power to! I don’t see why they couldn’t just follow on from EASA, …typical UK crap! 😂

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, it was incredibly annoying I must admit, I myself was one of them sadly. As Ian in london said - these didn't suddenly become unsafe overnight! Totally agree there was no reason for the change

    • @CaminoAir
      @CaminoAir ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@GAVINHR Unless DJI intend to release a M3 solution before the end of this year. What concerns me most is the sheer unpredictability of DJI's decisions about the M3 range. How can anyone make an informed purchase of equipment this expensive, if DJI just do an about turn every 6 months.

  • @deeweeuavp
    @deeweeuavp ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes - Very true. All these C Class laws ... Have thrown into doubt ownership of my Air2S. But I still got my Mini 2 ...

  • @EnglishTurbines
    @EnglishTurbines ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh, the irony.... You're okay to fly it in the USA....What was it they said about DJI???...🤔😳😳😏😏😏😏😏🇬🇧

  • @anumkhan6601
    @anumkhan6601 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, is anyone getting an issue of red lines appearing while filming? Need help please

  • @ukdronelife
    @ukdronelife ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh dear indeed 👍🏻

  • @XJWPX
    @XJWPX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got mavic 3 classic and no problem 😂i dont need this zoom camera

    • @kuldar.
      @kuldar. ปีที่แล้ว

      same

  • @MavericksDrone
    @MavericksDrone ปีที่แล้ว

    I think more screwed by brexit regarding Drones over 249g. I think most of EU can fly the Mavic3 Classic on C1 regs....but your CAA/brexit says no.

  • @Markabblett
    @Markabblett ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always, it's a shame as in 2026 will this be classed as a legacy drone? Unless firmware updates comply with the new laws which are unknown I suppose.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Essentially it’s in the legacy class now until the CAA decide what they are going to do in 2026!

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All these rules are so dumb- no one enforces them so why should anyone care

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s a whole other story ! You’re right, the only people taking notice is “drone police” fellow drone operators

  • @Inspirewithdrones3342
    @Inspirewithdrones3342 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t live in the UK but you really made a very valid point on this. I wonder if this would affect sales of this current M3 frame.

  • @zelnando
    @zelnando ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just don’t fly over people OG, it’s dangerous!😂

  • @paulsuilven
    @paulsuilven ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can it use Article 16 rules?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว

      You sure can ! I didn’t want to confuse things with this short video by going into it hugely but yes A16 you will be all good 👍

    • @NickHarbornePhotography
      @NickHarbornePhotography ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yarp as close as 5m in cine mode

  • @londenard
    @londenard ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh yea you hate to be the bearer of bad news... Hahaha!

  • @geertschoonbeek1779
    @geertschoonbeek1779 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agree

  • @laposport7489
    @laposport7489 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:47 last I checked UK was a part of Europe so what do you mean?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely different rules between continental EU and UK when it comes to drone regs

    • @laposport7489
      @laposport7489 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GAVINHR But UK is still a part of Europe and you are saying differently which is false.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว

      The UK is not part of Europe, the UK left the European Union, I’m English, I live here. No it’s not false

  • @WiljanWiljan
    @WiljanWiljan ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent information

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you kindly as alway!

  • @Kevz8611
    @Kevz8611 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn't really matter unless you looking to own the latest and greatest, or you a professional and you really need to upgrade. But I guess even then it's a issue to fly the Mavic 3 Pro. Most people will do just fine with the Mini Drones. You really don't need more, or even better than the Air 2s.

  • @cedricjamesjr1
    @cedricjamesjr1 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Lesser specification"? Look the only thing this has is the two extra cameras neither one of them have the quality of the main 4:3rds camera. Get the classic call it a day there is no spec that is different unless you are talking about the two cameras themselves. Now if you had you're heart set on this specific model I don't know what to tell you.... get the classic and loose no spec or C1 certification. Those two other cameras so what they don't carry the quality of the hasslebad main camera anyway. Trust me toy can zoom in 3x worth the classic fyi digital but oh well save some money get quality lose nothing.... you want to zoom... fly closer.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว

      The specification indeed I am simply talking about the extra cameras. As a drone reviewer I already have the mavic 3 classic and as per the issue in this video sadly if I’m sticking to the drone rules I can’t fly this drone close to people anyway so classic is the only way to go

    • @cedricjamesjr1
      @cedricjamesjr1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @GAVINHR yeah I was like what the heck..... then I have to take the time to remind myself we are brothers that are already getting ripped off by super tight drone regulations no matter where we are at.... I just bought my classic and they said the pro was coming out and I was like wth.... lol its good I'm with you I guess in the future we will just wait two years for them to get all of the gimmicks out before we buy.

  • @jorgenudvang3507
    @jorgenudvang3507 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    85% of the world population lives outside Europe and Nort America. Just sayin' ...

    • @lachimsojdag
      @lachimsojdag ปีที่แล้ว

      i would love to see though how much of the market share is europe ;) i bet 50%

  • @gabrielleyba2842
    @gabrielleyba2842 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    there is life outside UK and the EU you know? LAME

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That’s why the title says OUTSIDE the US. Or can’t you read?

    • @gabrielleyba2842
      @gabrielleyba2842 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GAVINHR I mean you say there is problem outside the US, but there are other countries besides UK and the EU thet are "outside the US" and do not have any drama with the drone weight, or can't you read?

    • @gabrielleyba2842
      @gabrielleyba2842 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GAVINHR also, thanks for the bad vibes, I can finally decide to tell youtube to stop bothering me with your channel.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Bad vibes 😂 you mouthed off and didn’t expect to get it back. Embarrassing. Goodbye 👋🏻