I was on that train. The first fire of the day that we were supposed to have started. We hadnt even got to that ststion. We were four ststions away filling up with water. .
Here's what I don't understand: How did the second fire start, if 44871 was providing zero power? Surely, if the regulator is shut, and the engine is simply coasting along, the sparks from underneath that would cause a fire would never appear?
Sparks will always find a way 😂🤣 Be it out the chimney or through the damper doors in the ash pan. With the amount of weeds around too, it's not impossible to start a fire. Even if she was just sat still, 44871 could've probably still started a fire. Then again...., WCRC doing WCRC things and ruining it for everyone else haha 😂🤣
Open enough to get the same kind of sparks, though? Either way, not much they could do. Somehow I doubt this is a WCRC problem, the same thing would've happened had it been 45231 out there.
Speaking from experience, all it takes is a couple stray hot embers from the ashpan to fly out the damper doors and bam, nice sleeper fire that could spread a lot further!
Excellent video 👍 but in your summary ….. “endless sunshine” ??? I think not ! Apart from 3 days it’s been permanent cloud, cool and windy every day here on the South Coast this year. A rubbish Spring and Summer all round
Thanks Brian. As regards to my statement, in the week leading up to the tour, the sun was almost constantly out with rare cloud intervals, and on the day in question we saw no cloud at all. This, along with no rain, and the high temperatures, resulted in the amber fire risk and the dry conditions that allowed these lineside fires to be so severe. It has cooled down since with more cloud, but some decent rain is required to dampen the ground a bit now.
It’s very sad, but with absolutely no need for Network Rail to spend on or even care about lineside husbandry in the 2020s the risk of fire from flying cinders is as high now as it’s ever been. With our increasing emphasis on health & safety going forward we might even be looking towards a ban on steam specials during the so-called ‘Summer months’. Further restrictions are bound to follow, as if automatic locking requirements on old slam door stock wasn’t enough!
Are MK1 carriages banned from mainline charters now ? Must be a big demand for Mk2s now !! Perhaps the mainline companies could do a swap with preserved lines ? Their MK1s in exchange for any Mk2s on preserved lines ? f
Mk1s are still allowed in the mainline and operators like Locomotive Services Limited use them regularly. However, WCRC have to run with stock fitted with CDL, which none of their Mk1s have currently, thus, they have to run with the shown Mk2 set.
I was on that train. The first fire of the day that we were supposed to have started. We hadnt even got to that ststion. We were four ststions away filling up with water.
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Great video as always, shame about the lineside fires that 44871 caused, but hey ho, just one of those things. Kind regards, Jake.
Yes, thanks for the excellent coverage of the day .
Thanks Jake
@@edmundbrain456 cheers Edmund
Someone’s got to take the blame. All part of steam operations.
Here's what I don't understand: How did the second fire start, if 44871 was providing zero power? Surely, if the regulator is shut, and the engine is simply coasting along, the sparks from underneath that would cause a fire would never appear?
Sparks will always find a way 😂🤣
Be it out the chimney or through the damper doors in the ash pan. With the amount of weeds around too, it's not impossible to start a fire. Even if she was just sat still, 44871 could've probably still started a fire.
Then again...., WCRC doing WCRC things and ruining it for everyone else haha 😂🤣
Need to have the regulator slightly open to provide lubrication.
Open enough to get the same kind of sparks, though? Either way, not much they could do.
Somehow I doubt this is a WCRC problem, the same thing would've happened had it been 45231 out there.
Incorrect not an S&T cable fault but the fire burnt through the high voltage cables causing a power failure
Speaking from experience, all it takes is a couple stray hot embers from the ashpan to fly out the damper doors and bam, nice sleeper fire that could spread a lot further!
Could do with a few lineside fires to reduce the vegetation throghout he whole network,
Excellent video 👍 but in your summary ….. “endless sunshine” ??? I think not ! Apart from 3 days it’s been permanent cloud, cool and windy every day here on the South Coast this year. A rubbish Spring and Summer all round
Thanks Brian. As regards to my statement, in the week leading up to the tour, the sun was almost constantly out with rare cloud intervals, and on the day in question we saw no cloud at all. This, along with no rain, and the high temperatures, resulted in the amber fire risk and the dry conditions that allowed these lineside fires to be so severe. It has cooled down since with more cloud, but some decent rain is required to dampen the ground a bit now.
Very nice video Thomas :)
Cheers Simon
Hi Thomas , Very good video.....Dave 😀👍👍👍👍🚂🚂🚂
Thanks Dave
@@themodster Hi Thomas N/P, Thanks for reply ....Dave 😄👍👍👍👍🚂🚂🚂
It’s very sad, but with absolutely no need for Network Rail to spend on or even care about lineside husbandry in the 2020s the risk of fire from flying cinders is as high now as it’s ever been. With our increasing emphasis on health & safety going forward we might even be looking towards a ban on steam specials during the so-called ‘Summer months’. Further restrictions are bound to follow, as if automatic locking requirements on old slam door stock wasn’t enough!
Are MK1 carriages banned from mainline charters now ? Must be a big demand for Mk2s now !! Perhaps the mainline companies could do a swap with preserved lines ? Their MK1s in exchange for any Mk2s on preserved lines ? f
Mk1s are still allowed in the mainline and operators like Locomotive Services Limited use them regularly. However, WCRC have to run with stock fitted with CDL, which none of their Mk1s have currently, thus, they have to run with the shown Mk2 set.
Time to look at DLM's light oil firing system.