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I am definitely an avid fan of Magic and I personally love the Universes Beyond. I was already starting Iniverses Beyond when I commissioned custom art modded cards for my Commander decks and while some of my picks (Life is Strange, Naruto, Borderlands, Mass Effect) will likely NEVER get crossovers, I still enjoy playing them. Fallout has me on such a hype right now being a longtime fan of the game series, and WHO catapulted me into binging 9th through 12th Doctors (trying to grit my teeth and get through 13th) and I loved having the Scryfall gallery for WHO open on my phone so that when something jappened in the episodes that corresponded to a WHO card, I could reference that card and love it that much more! I could gush all day, but I think I'll leave it there.
I'm not angry, and i don't hate universes beyond. but i feel like magic is changing into something that i don't love, or at least didn't love as much.. which is fine, that happens. it just sucks for me.
For 400$ you can get All 4 commander decks = 200$ A prime subscription to watch fallout series = 15$ New Vegas Fallout ultimate edition = 20$ Fallout 4 gold edition = 40$ Fallout 3 GOTY edition = 20$ FALLOUT 76 = 40$ And still have 65 dollars left over.
Fun fact, Prof. I quit magic, sold most of my cards and havent bought product since. But I still watch your content. You outlasted my hobby time in MTG
They lost me when they butchered the phyrexians... I am still in the process of selling all my cards but I too, still watch the prof. Probably always will :)
Don't quit! If you enjoyed the game, just proxy :D I have 10s of thousands of dollars in cards that i spent about what this booster box costs lol. I have so many decks that are incredibly fun to play and no one can even tell the difference unless they REEEEALLY look and care enough. I've had a blast and it has cost so little in comparison. I'm not like a salesperson or anything, I just love their product. Printingproxies is the site I like to use.
"my attitude towards universes beyond has shifted, but my feelings have not" describes exactly how i feel about it at this point. I feel like the decks have been really good, in a vacuum, but when you inevitably swap out a few of the cards, and end up with regular old magic cards next to fallout, next to doctor who, next to warhammer, it can definitely feel a bit uncanny. It's unfortunate because there have been some excellent mechanics in them, and it's clear a lot of love went into designing them.
Lol at least you didn't get ravnica clue edition, which I dodged a duplicate bullet and got clue on switch, grinch who, and dice versions for less than even the discounted $50. Way better. I preferred the brother's war with transformers to be a bit more subtle, let alone it's the cheapest gift bundle at about $45, with ixalan/jurassic park being $10 more. I've also noticed the collector's boosters are polished turds. You generally get fancy card art for less than $1, which is terrible when it costs $25+, though sales for under $20 are nice. Prof did luck out but not by that much (profit but less than $200).
I think what compounds this feeling is how Universes Beyond so often picks things that are so wildly incongruous with the aesthetic of the rest of the game. Like, Warhammer is so immediately recognizable as itself, that it's impossible to hide it while more contemporary ones like Walking Dead, Evil Dead, Stranger Things, etc will just never belong in Magic in my eyes. Part of the reason why LoTR really worked for me was honestly that it just about fits into Magic. Aside from some really key characters and elements, I can quite comfortably slot those cards into just about anything, helped by how much of a cornerstone to fantasy at large LoTR is. Entish Restoration, Troll of Khazad Dhum, Mirkwood Bats, Orcish Bowmasters, while you can tell by their names and art that these are Universes Beyond, they also don't clash with Magic's vibe too harshly. But on the whole though, I do feel that. I bought one of the Dr Who precons and I don't really have any intentions of taking it apart or adding to it, just sitting as almost like a time-capsule of it's release window. Of course, there is something to be said about how garish some of these cards are, that they kinda have their own unique appeal when all lumped together into one, immersion shattering package. Alot of the robots and artifacts of these decks will fit beautifully alongside Warhammer Necrons and Dr Who Cybermen into a Megatron-deck I'm planning to build, because with all these wildly disperate art styles and vibes clashing with Magic's own aesthetic more-so than with anything else, it's like a child's box of robot-toys stomping on their parents' hobby project. Something so tacky that it loops back around to just being hilarious in it's blasphemy.
@@AlluMan96 kinda incorrect for Warhammer being 'immediately recognizable' cuz I played Be'lakor as my commander for a year when I got into the gaqme and thought it was just some demon from an older New Capenna set.
4 Fallout Commander Deck bundle on TCGPlayer: $190.75 Market Price Fallout Franchise Bundle on Steam: $163.03 Total: $353.78 Not only would you have the money for it, but you'd have enough left over to buy a lot of snacks and invite three friends over to play the Pre-Cons against each other.
I caved to FOMO and bought the deck set because I didn't want to end up not being able to play radstorm and a bunch of the energy counter cards because I REALLY want to make a janky energy counter deck work. Turns out the energy counter deck itself is the weakest of the bunch though a bunch of the individual cards, I'm sure, are awesome. But when it come to Universes Beyond, the collector boosters and displays are beyond me (ha), because they're so expensive and you can just get the decks if you're looking for a card and/or buy singles of the cards that you really enjoy. So they're EXCLUSIVELY a lottery ticket. Pull a serialized card or bust. Collector booster displays are already a very... luxury product. I sometimes can one for very cheap from a friend who can buy them at distributor prices. E.g. A collector box of Midnight Hunt for 75 bucks and even those have very iffy EV but at least you have the chance of pulling cards, that aren't in any precon. Paying 400 bucks for a kick in the nuts, when you could have just bought the fallout precons... is really just dudes with well paying IT-Jobs burning burning some cash for fun.
See the thing about special treatments on cards and serialization is that you don’t need them to play the game. There’s nothing wrong with wanting a fancy version of a card of course. If you happen to want them, cool! Go buy it.
It's hilarious how prof overestimated the price on almost every card and then somehow before the final pack guessed he had opened 200 dollars lower than the actual value.
As someone who has never played MTG before, the Universes Beyond stuff has pulled me into the hobby. I know it's maybe not the same for veteran players, but stuff like Fallout, LotR, and 40k is acting as an incredible entry point and making me excited for upcoming decks that are more of the "regular" Magic flavor.
Same. I get they aren't for everyone, but when they introduced Transformers in Brothers War I bought my first Magic boosters in over a decade. Now I have a group of friends that plays Commander once a week!
"I get UB isn't for everyone". So is selling drugs to kids or killing other people. That doesn't mean they should be welcome... But as long as prof. pays 400$ for a box for views, regardless of his personal view and/or ethics. How can we complain 😉. Sorry, gotta go. Another UB-supporter just killed my dog in my backyard. Can't complain - gotta make space for everyone ♥️
@@jesperwinther518wow dude. That some comparison. Don’t engage with content you don’t like. Sorry that UB worked to bring other people to the game and now they engage with regular magic up content. What hurt you?
When the professor said, "Gotta be $100, show me $100!" with such confidence, and then the actual price appeared, I burst out laughing. The hubris-to-downfall timing is perfect. 🤣
I loved that by pack 2 he was thinking $150, almost every card he was guessing 2 or 3 times over the real price, and then on pack 11 he did a memory add and said "maybe $375." I mean, I know it's all funny because we have the hindsight information.
So excited to see you open this. I managed to my snag my Collector Box from Amazon for 270 since I pre-ordered it back in October last year! Excited to open my box this weekend with my buddy!
I really enjoy this “guess the price” format compared to skimming through them all! Also love the “per pack value” tracker compared to highest card being tracked. Definitely makes me want to watch it all the way through vs skim/skip/2x the video.
This format of the booster box game is more interesting to me with the collector boosters than watching the packs get opened with the background music only. I like the guessing game
i think this is the key, Universes Beyond is great, but using it as a further reason to make magic increasingly more and more expensive is decidedly sucky.
@@ASunstrider normally i agree with you, proxies are great. But the real problem with this idea is that the best part about a lot of these universe beyond cards are the amazing art. Obviously the good thing is that singles usually end up being low value once packs get opened. But you arent gonna proxy say the vault boy alt arts because the whole point is to have the nice art on a quality card.
@Phished123 You can almost always use any printing of a card you want when you proxy, what are you talking about? And these collector boxes are all foil. I would say of all the foil magic cards I own, less then 10% of them are ACCEPTABLE let alone quality.
@@eewweeppkk I wasnt speaking specifically about the collectors boxes, those are undefendable, we are talking about UB in general. Im speaking about quality and color of print, not the foil issues. There is a massive difference in quality of color between just printing inkjet proxies and actual cards, and at some point if you are going to a site like Printing Proxy and getting prints of actual art magic cards you arent proxying, you are just counterfeiting cards. Thats fine if you are just playing kitchen table or whatever anyway, but there is a distinction there.
A friend introduced us to Commander MTG, and now I have my own deck themed at Fallout... these cards are making me want to get the booster (but not because it's dang expensive lol).
You are by far one of the funniest MTG critic/promoter I have had the pleasure view. no matter the content you can see your passion and commitment to the craft. thank you for your brutal honesty and cynical take on my favorite childhood game that I now share with my son (and other family members when they can handle it). Please keep on creating content reaches the masses.
Someday, amidst a howling wasteland of a post-apocalypse, you might chance upon these booster boxes in a landfill. It will be worth every penny of that $400 considering how useful it will become as toilet paper replacement.
I can imagine these are more work to produce but I prefer this talking format of the booster box game as opposed to the sped up version with the music, keep it up prof
The fallout set got 4 of my friends, who used to laugh at me for liking magic, into magic and now they've built decks themselves and we play regularly just the other day i introduced them to a game of commander planeschase and its been great since my old play group all moved out of state and i sent your channel to them and now we all watch to see how we could do things differently
I liked the version where they made identical cards in universe (e.g. godzilla), so you could truly choose whether you interacted with these sets or not. Product is product it should only bring prices down on reprints. I'll partake of some (e.g., FF, Streetfighter, Lotr, Marvel) and ignore others (walking dead, stranger things, fallout, 40k).
To answer the proffessors question. Ive personally purchased 3 collextors booster boxes and ive never even SEEN a price listing at 400 or higher. I pre ordered 2 boxes at 250 plus tax from a local LGS (Their price has since jumped to around 350) Then, i ordered an extra box from amazon at the pre-order price garuntee or 324. I pulled well over the value of my boxes in cards (though im no magic investor just a fan of fallout and mtg who wanted to crack some packs) I actually completed my collection with just those 3 boxes as well so ive been quite happy with my experience. I probably wouldnt pay 400 a box for these cards if i saw it listed at this price. My LGS is also sellint single packs for 40 as of this week which i also don't think is reasonable
My friends just recently got me into magic and my first deck was a Fallout Commander deck. I loved playing it. I now have a pre order the Modern Horizons III commander decks. 😂 Your videos have helped me understand a lot about the game. I just wish I would have gotten into MTG 10 years ago when it was offered to me.
@@lilithhendersonwhile disappointing, Fallout, in my opinion, is in a different league than Doctor Who. While I am just one fan of Fallout, there are crazy Fallout fans scooping up all 7 serialized cards.
@@Official_Koya_you are absolutely incorrect in that assumption. Most doctor who fans grew up with the series while fallout didn’t gain widespread appeal until the 3rd game in 2008. Fan base size may be comparable but they are a lot more doctor who mega fans.
I want to join the Fallout hate-wagon, but the truth is it’s a banger set for Green. Vigor and Walking Ballista in the same set? Pipboy is a great equip for a Green Counters deck, heck it’ll even untap your Nykthos and Oran Rief Vastwood. The Rad Elk is basically a new Scurry Oak… Some great reprints like Branching Evolution and Guardian Project… Tarmagoyf….heck, there’s that 3G XC creature that wrecks enchants/artifacts, the Strong Thespian mutant isn’t bad… I can keep going. Still, doesn’t in any way justify the Collector’s nonsense.
If you want to make decent money with the money you got from that. just buy the boxes and then forget about them for 10 years and pray that wizard doesn’t make magic unpopular
Love your unboxing videos! I am one of those people who played magic back in the mid-nineties as a kid and was brought back into the game because of the LOR universes beyond release. I like the IP splashes and I was super pumped about the Fallout release. I have also jumped into MTG Arena and have a much better appreciation for standard and am going back and building out my collection from the last couple of years!
I'm in a halfway opinion on universes beyond. I wish they would slow down the releases so we weren't so saturated with them, but I do like the idea of them and bringing these other stories into the world of magic
honestly my exact feelings. I totally understand frustrations and just wanted magic lore, but some of them are so cool and honestly work well with magic. they need to find a better balance
It’s crazy because some of the fallout cards have awesome flavor in their mechanics, and I feel the same way about all four of the Doctor Who decks which I’m a huge fan of. Genuinely, it feels like so much passion was put into these sets, which is why I wish they slowed them down and made the prices more reasonable so more people can enjoy them
I really love fallout, and magic is so cool, I haven’t had the chance to play in a long time, but when I can afford to I’m totally getting one of the precons! This was a rad:3 video, and I’m really glad you were actually able to make back the insane $400, with room to spare!
I played mtg with my brother in like 2004 then didn’t play for 20 years. But when commander masters came out I went and bought the new Sliver deck because he used to beat me so bad with it. Helped me reconnect with him. Thanks MTG :)
Gotta love how Prof does math: "20$ plus 50$ plus... that pack is about 35$" xD I don't mind Universes Beyond, what I do mind though is that there is no Universes Within versions. Nuka Cola Vending Machine is a busted card, but still I won't put it into my decks.
I came to this video with this thought about how Prof doesn't understand that for some people, like myself, there is joy in opening packs and hunting for the cards you want vs. buying singles. Then I learned from The video that the commander decks contain every card in the "set" which completely nullifies that whole though. Genuinely didn't know that, so thanks Prof!
My understanding is that you will open these collector packs chasing after alternate arts, showcase treatments, surge foils, extended arts, etc. There aren’t cards exclusively to the collector boosters, but there ARE treatments & foils exclusive to these packs. So yeah, if you just want the cards, and not the swag, buy the decks.
As a lover of fallout I bought all the vault boy art cards (except for mana vault) and put them in hard cases and displayed them on my hobby room wall. I can take or leave universes beyond I bought a box strictly because I'm a fan of fallout.
Regarding the appeal of universes beyond for new players: A friend of mine with whom I had layed YGO intensely about 16 years ago tried for more than a year to get me into MTG, which he loves today. Never worked for me because I did not want to fall into a game that sucks money out of me continuously and and that takes up so much shelf space. But then the Doctor Who decks came out, through which I also discovered Commander. Bought the decks for me and my GF (we both love the BBC series) and that brought me into the MTG ecosystem. Bought the 60 card precon starter decks, played around with 1v1 duels, then went to my first Sealed and then finally Draft events for OTJ. I also bought the Fallout Caesar Deck (without ever looking at power levels or such, just because I love Caesar and Fallout New Vegas... so hearing you talk about FNV and Doctor Who occasionally on video is a real treat, professor!), which was the first Precon I upgraded myself. All baby MTG player achievements, sure, but a lovely onramp for me. So as an anecdote, I can confirm, yeah, they get us franchise lovers into MTG with these decks. My girlfriend, still more casually interested in MTG than me at this point, is nevertheless looking forward to the Final Fantasy sets, so even if the game doesn't onramp you fully into its ecosystem, it can also make people come back several times to game worlds they love. I see the criticism with settings that don't fit the MTG canon though. While I somehow can fit Sci-Fi like DW, FO and Warhammer into my brain, and fantasy like BG and LOTR obviously fit, I have no idea why I should want to play Assassin's Creed or Marvel decks. Said friend that got me into Magic also showed me your channel btw. Love it, keep it up Professor!
So I’m in a similar mindset to you prof, I don’t like universes beyond, but I love magic. I still play with my friends, but I don’t really buy cards anymore. The few times I have, I’ve followed your long standing advice of just buying singles 🤷🏼♂️ it’s saved me a lot of money in the long run
I have mixed feelings on UB. They’ve done a great job with some of them, but some are kind of duds for me like Fallout, Stranger Things, Transformers, and Street Fighter. I don’t want Marvel, though. That’s just gross
i'm ready for some of the IPs that i am more personally invested in (marvel and final fantasy in particular) to see either alternate versions of cards i like, or new friends :) so far these are fun but, they havent hit the franchises i'm particularly devoted to (if we get a legend of zelda, for example, i will die of excitement)
this product is the one thing that would be worth reusing the VIP boosters intro for, unless you got a box of 30th anniversary of course, then it's that.
"Well, Tragic the Garnering™ isn’t just a game -- it’s an obsession. Not a cologne, either. Some think that the way it changes a person’s life is tragic, but they just don’t understand."
God damn that's wild. I got mine for $265 and the day after, the cards that showed up as already having a price totalled $620 but it's prob closer to $500 now after a week. No serialized tho good hit!
@@UltimateDrDoom Surge's look okay, Im still waiting for the day that magic releases Embossed Foil cards, similar to the dragon ball super card game, some of their rarest cards look so sick. (In videos, in pictures they look ass tbh.) I'd say the most likely cards to get that kind of treatment would be a new run of masterpieces, however.
Regarding Universes Beyond, my D&D group had convinced me to occasionally play Magic with them after sessions and just use some of their decks, but I wasn't buying anything myself. LOTR and now Fallout have changed that. I am excited to see characters I know and love in Magic. It also got me to buy other things as well, I really liked WoE and am excited about Thunder Junction. Universes Beyond may not be for everyone, but it's really fun for some of us
There should be a “prof’s guess total” so we can see how far off he was. He mentioned double digits many times and the card would be around a few dollars 😂. What a wonderful man and channel. Always a pleasure to watch his videos and see his personality shine through whether it be through passion, frustration, confusion, or any other human emotion.
So, I opened two collector booster boxes and had about the same experience as you did opening one. Except my preorder price was $324 each. The current value of all the cards I pulled is about $1150. I didn't really even get a lot of high value cards, except I got the actual $100 Sol Ring. There are a lot of variants in the $2-$5 range,and a handful in the $10-$30 range that makes it likely you will break even, *if you plan to break even*. However, I bought these just for the fun of opening and exploring all these cards. You got a bit giddy at one point, and I had to laugh. The joy of opening a new set is still an experience that has intrinsic value. As long as I don;t lose a lot of money, I'll enjoy opening a reasonable amount of packs for a set that I have an affinity for. LotR and Fallout just happened to be that for me. I might not do this again for several years, but then again, I have a huge collection of Marvel comics so I may go crazy one more time.
I really loved playing Fallout 4, I played on my vacation with my then girlfriend and now soon to be wife. We played the heck out of it, we amassed something like 13 days of playing hours, it was a blast. When wotc announced fallout set, i was thrilled!!! and the memories of that time came back, we are planning on replaying the games. She have the dogmeat deck, i bought the dogmeat sleeves, playmat, deckbox, the whole thing. The love and emotions and everything cant be explained. That is what I think about the universes beyond, its not a reasonable thing, its something different. We got all 4 commander decks. ;D
I think the burnout is taking a toll on us all, Prof. I'd hug ya if I could. Appreciate all you do for this community! I hope you're taking of yourself and that you and your family are doing well!
A potentially interesting perspective: I got into magic last year because I heard this set was coming. After having played now for around 6 months, I understand the problems with prices and universes beyond in general, but I will always acknowledge that it got me into the game. Magic is awesome, and I am happy to be a part of it. I bought the commander decks and love them.
Man, this stuff is way too confusing. 4 decks gets you 100% of the cards. But the Lord of the Rings decks came with cards that were different from the regular packs?
😂😂 what? mark up a collectible item that is scarce? Never herd of Ash blossom have you they had to downgrade the prin so it was available to everyone becuse they got mad it was limited
I have never been into Magic. However, I am a huge Fallout fan. This release got me into magic, and now I actively play commander. And have been inspired to build my own commander decks. I love all of these cards, and it was a perfect gateway for me to get into the game.
I got my collector booster box form my LGS for $220, luckily those guys do well with online sales that for the locals they always have great in store deals, since they really set out to try and create a hang out spot for all TCG players, and it’s always a good time going in to buy something and the owners are such cool guys that they will always be up to just talk about anything, really good environment
Love the intro Prof 🤣🤣🤣 What's even crazier is here in Montreal, Quebec the USD to CAD is crazy so its like 540$-600$ depending on the LGS... we're better off buying singles
That was me wuth BG3! Played as a kid, stopped and a friend bought me a commander pack as a goft knowing i lived the game. Back into it more than ever!
I'm largely indifferent to Universes Beyond, but I get both the PoVs. On one hand I understand that these products muddy the card game Magic The Gathering with its intriguing story and long history. Heck, even I feel the fatigue of being presented with so many different IPs in MTG, rather than actual MTG sets. But on the other, I get the joy you feel when one of your other favorite things crosses over with your favorite card game. I know I couldn't stay impartial to save my life if WotC released an MLP commander set with 4 Precons, despite how objectively absurd it would be.
I'm super new coming back to Magic (first new sets were WoE/LCI) and can empathize how purists don't vibe with the universes beyond, but I believe UB helps Magic as a whole when the sets reach out to untapped (hah) markets and get new eyes on the game, constantly adding to the player pool just from people seeing characters, locations, objects from universes they are fond of and then, hopefully, they start their journey into building decks with in-universe cards and other UB sets. Great video as always Prof and Editor 💜
I'm definitely one of the people who came back to play Magic because of the Fallout commander sets. I know it's not for everyone but it makes me happy and glad to be back.
I only recently got into Magic the Gathering and I'm not gonna lie the fact that there are Fallout and Lord of the Rings themes decks was a huge selling point for me. I haven't gotteen into the "magic lore" yet but I feel like these Universe beyond sets definitely help pulling people from other tcgs, and in the end, in my opinion this is much more important then "staying pure". A lot of my friends ultimately where convinced to try it out because they could get Jurrassic Park, Fallout and Warhammer 40k cards.
On the topic of universes beyond, my first introduction to My first introduction to Magic was the Lord of the Rings set. I fell in love with the game through the catalyst of the Lord of the Rings flavor. Now that I've drafted and played with other sets such as WoE and LCI, I do think Magic's original sets are really fun and should 100% be prioritized over sets like a Fallout or Doctor Who. That being said, having a universes beyond set bi-annually or annually would be an effective compromise. In general, it's felt like there are too many sets coming out too quickly, at least for me. It's hard for me to say as a newer player since I don't have the years or decades of attachment to this game, but I think overall, they're good for introducing new player to the game of Magic.
Regarding your doubt towards bitching enough about Universes Beyond, I want to give my two cents as a big Doctor Who fan who has fallen in love with MTG thanks to the UB Commander Decks. I was at first interested because of the art of the DW cards, but intimitaded by the complexity of the game and doubtful I could get into it. It was the Doctor Who Shuffle Up and Play that helped me decide to give it a go. 6 months later, I am in love with this game and play regularly both with a Commander group and a draft group. So while I do understand the criticisms towards UB and am even starting to share some of them, those products do provide an entry-point towards the game, and the fact that you give them a little space on your channel (while remaining critical) helps with that. Anyway, thank you for all you do, Prof!
@TolarianCommunityCollege I understand why some people may not like these packs or sets of universe beyond. But let me say this. My GF has never been interested in MTG. Until the fallout packs. Now she loves it. It got me back into MTG after years of not playing. If anything, it brings in new and excited players who are showing support for what is basically just a fun game to play, make friends, and have a good time. Haters can hate, but they shouldn’t complain when there is more support for the game now than ever before! 🐸🤘🏻 Thanks for the video, it was a great watch!
I bought two boxes from a UK based online gaming company and they were priced at around $230 for each before taxes, and before promo discounts that were available depending on the amount of items purchased. Unfortunately, I have get to receive them. The projected date of shipment is on or around 05/01/2024 (the formatting on the site reads 01/05/2024 since it is in the UK).
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so they are still doing this crap so glad i quite mtg. Printers been working fine too.
I like the universe and beyond set. I got the set of 4 for Dr. who and fallout.
And you are right Dr. Who set is way better than the fallout set.
I am definitely an avid fan of Magic and I personally love the Universes Beyond. I was already starting Iniverses Beyond when I commissioned custom art modded cards for my Commander decks and while some of my picks (Life is Strange, Naruto, Borderlands, Mass Effect) will likely NEVER get crossovers, I still enjoy playing them. Fallout has me on such a hype right now being a longtime fan of the game series, and WHO catapulted me into binging 9th through 12th Doctors (trying to grit my teeth and get through 13th) and I loved having the Scryfall gallery for WHO open on my phone so that when something jappened in the episodes that corresponded to a WHO card, I could reference that card and love it that much more!
I could gush all day, but I think I'll leave it there.
I'm not angry, and i don't hate universes beyond. but i feel like magic is changing into something that i don't love, or at least didn't love as much.. which is fine, that happens. it just sucks for me.
Why pay $400 for 12 packs when you can buy those same packs at Target for $25 each, that’s $300?
Opening packs that expensive almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
Then who would you trade with Josh? Without the oh so powerful internet, how will you know if it is worth $400 anymore?
I get that reference.
Josh would remember it and he would tell the tales of fallout packs at the campfire gathering@@cstaie85
Was not expecting a Josh Strife Hayes in the comments.
Most predictable crossover in the history of man right here
For 400$ you can get
All 4 commander decks = 200$
A prime subscription to watch fallout series = 15$
New Vegas Fallout ultimate edition = 20$
Fallout 4 gold edition = 40$
Fallout 3 GOTY edition = 20$
FALLOUT 76 = 40$
And still have 65 dollars left over.
Don't forget the original fallout games! You'll still have $60 leftover!
To make it even more cost efficient you can get Xbox Gamepass and get all the Fallout games(plus over 400 other games to play)
And yet people buy it. When you break it down its criminal.
Did the serialized card make up for the $800+ you spent? Lol @@RadStormCrow
You'd have to pay me to play 76
Prof: "Show me $33.33!"
Card: $2.00
Fun fact, Prof. I quit magic, sold most of my cards and havent bought product since. But I still watch your content. You outlasted my hobby time in MTG
They lost me when they butchered the phyrexians... I am still in the process of selling all my cards but I too, still watch the prof. Probably always will :)
Don't quit! If you enjoyed the game, just proxy :D I have 10s of thousands of dollars in cards that i spent about what this booster box costs lol. I have so many decks that are incredibly fun to play and no one can even tell the difference unless they REEEEALLY look and care enough. I've had a blast and it has cost so little in comparison. I'm not like a salesperson or anything, I just love their product. Printingproxies is the site I like to use.
"my attitude towards universes beyond has shifted, but my feelings have not" describes exactly how i feel about it at this point. I feel like the decks have been really good, in a vacuum, but when you inevitably swap out a few of the cards, and end up with regular old magic cards next to fallout, next to doctor who, next to warhammer, it can definitely feel a bit uncanny. It's unfortunate because there have been some excellent mechanics in them, and it's clear a lot of love went into designing them.
Lol at least you didn't get ravnica clue edition, which I dodged a duplicate bullet and got clue on switch, grinch who, and dice versions for less than even the discounted $50. Way better. I preferred the brother's war with transformers to be a bit more subtle, let alone it's the cheapest gift bundle at about $45, with ixalan/jurassic park being $10 more.
I've also noticed the collector's boosters are polished turds. You generally get fancy card art for less than $1, which is terrible when it costs $25+, though sales for under $20 are nice. Prof did luck out but not by that much (profit but less than $200).
I think what compounds this feeling is how Universes Beyond so often picks things that are so wildly incongruous with the aesthetic of the rest of the game. Like, Warhammer is so immediately recognizable as itself, that it's impossible to hide it while more contemporary ones like Walking Dead, Evil Dead, Stranger Things, etc will just never belong in Magic in my eyes. Part of the reason why LoTR really worked for me was honestly that it just about fits into Magic. Aside from some really key characters and elements, I can quite comfortably slot those cards into just about anything, helped by how much of a cornerstone to fantasy at large LoTR is. Entish Restoration, Troll of Khazad Dhum, Mirkwood Bats, Orcish Bowmasters, while you can tell by their names and art that these are Universes Beyond, they also don't clash with Magic's vibe too harshly. But on the whole though, I do feel that. I bought one of the Dr Who precons and I don't really have any intentions of taking it apart or adding to it, just sitting as almost like a time-capsule of it's release window.
Of course, there is something to be said about how garish some of these cards are, that they kinda have their own unique appeal when all lumped together into one, immersion shattering package. Alot of the robots and artifacts of these decks will fit beautifully alongside Warhammer Necrons and Dr Who Cybermen into a Megatron-deck I'm planning to build, because with all these wildly disperate art styles and vibes clashing with Magic's own aesthetic more-so than with anything else, it's like a child's box of robot-toys stomping on their parents' hobby project. Something so tacky that it loops back around to just being hilarious in it's blasphemy.
Yeah, one of my decks has this weird as fuck Megatron Tyrant card in there. Really powerful for the deck. Totally not in theme.
@@AlluMan96 kinda incorrect for Warhammer being 'immediately recognizable' cuz I played Be'lakor as my commander for a year when I got into the gaqme and thought it was just some demon from an older New Capenna set.
Whenever I’m building decks in just keep scrolling past universes beyond cards when looking for cards to put in.
You could buy all four decks, and probably get every Fallout video game ever released for less than 1 of these boxes. Insane
4 Fallout Commander Deck bundle on TCGPlayer: $190.75 Market Price
Fallout Franchise Bundle on Steam: $163.03
Total: $353.78
Not only would you have the money for it, but you'd have enough left over to buy a lot of snacks and invite three friends over to play the Pre-Cons against each other.
I caved to FOMO and bought the deck set because I didn't want to end up not being able to play radstorm and a bunch of the energy counter cards because I REALLY want to make a janky energy counter deck work. Turns out the energy counter deck itself is the weakest of the bunch though a bunch of the individual cards, I'm sure, are awesome.
But when it come to Universes Beyond, the collector boosters and displays are beyond me (ha), because they're so expensive and you can just get the decks if you're looking for a card and/or buy singles of the cards that you really enjoy.
So they're EXCLUSIVELY a lottery ticket. Pull a serialized card or bust.
Collector booster displays are already a very... luxury product. I sometimes can one for very cheap from a friend who can buy them at distributor prices. E.g. A collector box of Midnight Hunt for 75 bucks and even those have very iffy EV but at least you have the chance of pulling cards, that aren't in any precon. Paying 400 bucks for a kick in the nuts, when you could have just bought the fallout precons... is really just dudes with well paying IT-Jobs burning burning some cash for fun.
See the thing about special treatments on cards and serialization is that you don’t need them to play the game. There’s nothing wrong with wanting a fancy version of a card of course. If you happen to want them, cool! Go buy it.
Could we get a BOX counter next time, Please and Thank You!! If not, no Biggie,!,!!,!,
and those decks come with collector sample packs witch makes it even more ridiculous
14:33 "This is currently the cheapest Wasteland" 😂
Not surprising in the least. It looks horrible.
I like it. Maybe because I like the fallout shelter type art
It's hilarious how prof overestimated the price on almost every card and then somehow before the final pack guessed he had opened 200 dollars lower than the actual value.
English major
when he says a card is $20, more often than not he's just doing a bit lol
@Bramblebush518 I get that it's a bit lol, I find it funny. I'm curious how honest he is on his final guess though.
Math is hard.
@@Bramblebush518 it really don't think he is bro😂 he is over and under on a lot of cards. I think this is a true estimate
Prof, please do more videos where you talk about stuff. We love seeing you unbox and just ramble. It is so relaxing
As someone who has never played MTG before, the Universes Beyond stuff has pulled me into the hobby. I know it's maybe not the same for veteran players, but stuff like Fallout, LotR, and 40k is acting as an incredible entry point and making me excited for upcoming decks that are more of the "regular" Magic flavor.
Glad it got you in, I got into magic from the dungeons and dragons cross-over sets and been really into it since.
Same. I get they aren't for everyone, but when they introduced Transformers in Brothers War I bought my first Magic boosters in over a decade. Now I have a group of friends that plays Commander once a week!
"I get UB isn't for everyone".
So is selling drugs to kids or killing other people.
That doesn't mean they should be welcome...
But as long as prof. pays 400$ for a box for views, regardless of his personal view and/or ethics.
How can we complain 😉.
Sorry, gotta go.
Another UB-supporter just killed my dog in my backyard.
Can't complain - gotta make space for everyone ♥️
@@jesperwinther518wow dude. That some comparison. Don’t engage with content you don’t like. Sorry that UB worked to bring other people to the game and now they engage with regular magic up content. What hurt you?
@@jesperwinther518 lol very normal response. Not weirdo behavior at all.
When the professor said, "Gotta be $100, show me $100!" with such confidence, and then the actual price appeared, I burst out laughing. The hubris-to-downfall timing is perfect. 🤣
I loved that by pack 2 he was thinking $150, almost every card he was guessing 2 or 3 times over the real price, and then on pack 11 he did a memory add and said "maybe $375." I mean, I know it's all funny because we have the hindsight information.
They weren't sold for 400$, idiots made the price go up.
And then proceeds to ignore the $60+ card for that Arcane Signet
I think it’s up there now though.
@@cseiter3669 Are they increasing in value? Wouldn't they be decreasing in value short term since boxes are being shipped out and packs cracked?
Shout out to the editor
Definitely. Profs editor is alwars on point.
OK, but what’s their name?
Please someone at TCC give prof a hug it looks like he needs it
Oh my goodness he liked it! 🥺 My fiance would give him a hug in a heartbeat I swear
The discussion at the end was really good Prof. I love your opinion on this stuff
So excited to see you open this. I managed to my snag my Collector Box from Amazon for 270 since I pre-ordered it back in October last year! Excited to open my box this weekend with my buddy!
I really enjoy this “guess the price” format compared to skimming through them all! Also love the “per pack value” tracker compared to highest card being tracked. Definitely makes me want to watch it all the way through vs skim/skip/2x the video.
true, same
I think the editor deserves that extra booster box
why? this is the easiest thing in the world to edit
Are you an editor?
@@ChrisTian-mf8wu if being an editor is putting up a price to match the card then call me papa editor
@@gamersrevenge6528if only it was that easy, some recordings could be over 3 hours long and then you have to cut 3 hours down to 40 or so minutes
@@gamersrevenge6528Go do it!
This format of the booster box game is more interesting to me with the collector boosters than watching the packs get opened with the background music only. I like the guessing game
same. love to hear ideas of brian and just love him talk, so soothing
Yeah i watch the videos because of the prof not to wwtch background noise lol
I'd pay $400 for MTG:Universes Beyond - Divorced Dads for a chance to get a serialized House
Underrated comment 💀
Same.
Todd Howard never stops finding new ways to have people drop insane money on his game
A booster box that’s 400 caps?!??? I’d have to blow up megaton to buy 1.
You all are getting paid to blow up Megaton? I’ve just been doing it for free.
@@garrisontd we are not the same
2:04 you can’t hit me with that “10 years” remark so casually!! I swear that time went by so quick.
I love the IDEA of Universes Beyond. I hate how expensive it is. I hate how expensive Magic is all around.
i think this is the key, Universes Beyond is great, but using it as a further reason to make magic increasingly more and more expensive is decidedly sucky.
Proxy printer goes brrrr
@@ASunstrider normally i agree with you, proxies are great. But the real problem with this idea is that the best part about a lot of these universe beyond cards are the amazing art. Obviously the good thing is that singles usually end up being low value once packs get opened. But you arent gonna proxy say the vault boy alt arts because the whole point is to have the nice art on a quality card.
@Phished123 You can almost always use any printing of a card you want when you proxy, what are you talking about?
And these collector boxes are all foil. I would say of all the foil magic cards I own, less then 10% of them are ACCEPTABLE let alone quality.
@@eewweeppkk
I wasnt speaking specifically about the collectors boxes, those are undefendable, we are talking about UB in general.
Im speaking about quality and color of print, not the foil issues. There is a massive difference in quality of color between just printing inkjet proxies and actual cards, and at some point if you are going to a site like Printing Proxy and getting prints of actual art magic cards you arent proxying, you are just counterfeiting cards. Thats fine if you are just playing kitchen table or whatever anyway, but there is a distinction there.
A friend introduced us to Commander MTG, and now I have my own deck themed at Fallout... these cards are making me want to get the booster (but not because it's dang expensive lol).
Wich one are you playing? Thinking about starting playing, got the legion and sciece ones, idk if any of them is good
You are by far one of the funniest MTG critic/promoter I have had the pleasure view. no matter the content you can see your passion and commitment to the craft. thank you for your brutal honesty and cynical take on my favorite childhood game that I now share with my son (and other family members when they can handle it). Please keep on creating content reaches the masses.
Thank you for talking and not just playing music over the cards, love your insight and thoughts please keep doing this
Someday, amidst a howling wasteland of a post-apocalypse, you might chance upon these booster boxes in a landfill. It will be worth every penny of that $400 considering how useful it will become as toilet paper replacement.
I can imagine these are more work to produce but I prefer this talking format of the booster box game as opposed to the sped up version with the music, keep it up prof
The fallout set got 4 of my friends, who used to laugh at me for liking magic, into magic and now they've built decks themselves and we play regularly just the other day i introduced them to a game of commander planeschase and its been great since my old play group all moved out of state and i sent your channel to them and now we all watch to see how we could do things differently
I liked the version where they made identical cards in universe (e.g. godzilla), so you could truly choose whether you interacted with these sets or not. Product is product it should only bring prices down on reprints. I'll partake of some (e.g., FF, Streetfighter, Lotr, Marvel) and ignore others (walking dead, stranger things, fallout, 40k).
I spent $250 by pre ordering on Amazon the day they went live and they honored the pricing thankfully.
I got mine on Amazon when they were $180 the second they went live and they honored all 5 of my boxes.
Stop enabling this BS.
😂
To answer the proffessors question.
Ive personally purchased 3 collextors booster boxes and ive never even SEEN a price listing at 400 or higher.
I pre ordered 2 boxes at 250 plus tax from a local LGS (Their price has since jumped to around 350)
Then, i ordered an extra box from amazon at the pre-order price garuntee or 324.
I pulled well over the value of my boxes in cards (though im no magic investor just a fan of fallout and mtg who wanted to crack some packs)
I actually completed my collection with just those 3 boxes as well so ive been quite happy with my experience.
I probably wouldnt pay 400 a box for these cards if i saw it listed at this price. My LGS is also sellint single packs for 40 as of this week which i also don't think is reasonable
I learned that I should definitely send my cards to the Professor to buy at his pricing lol.
Is he not using buylist price from his local shop?
@@jaywinner328 I could have sworn it was some form of TCG Low.
My friends just recently got me into magic and my first deck was a Fallout Commander deck. I loved playing it. I now have a pre order the Modern Horizons III commander decks. 😂 Your videos have helped me understand a lot about the game. I just wish I would have gotten into MTG 10 years ago when it was offered to me.
Prof talking while opening a collector box vs Rudy talking whole opening a collector box is SO different 😆
I gambled and won big, serialized card. I'm now going to retire from collector boosters lest I fly too close to the sun.
Sell it quick, before it inevitably crashes. Nobody bought my second doctor serialised and its like £150 now
@@lilithhendersonwhile disappointing, Fallout, in my opinion, is in a different league than Doctor Who. While I am just one fan of Fallout, there are crazy Fallout fans scooping up all 7 serialized cards.
@@Official_Koya_you are absolutely incorrect in that assumption. Most doctor who fans grew up with the series while fallout didn’t gain widespread appeal until the 3rd game in 2008. Fan base size may be comparable but they are a lot more doctor who mega fans.
I want to join the Fallout hate-wagon, but the truth is it’s a banger set for Green.
Vigor and Walking Ballista in the same set?
Pipboy is a great equip for a Green Counters deck, heck it’ll even untap your Nykthos and Oran Rief Vastwood.
The Rad Elk is basically a new Scurry Oak…
Some great reprints like Branching Evolution and Guardian Project…
Tarmagoyf….heck, there’s that 3G XC creature that wrecks enchants/artifacts, the Strong Thespian mutant isn’t bad…
I can keep going.
Still, doesn’t in any way justify the Collector’s nonsense.
If you want to make decent money with the money you got from that. just buy the boxes and then forget about them for 10 years and pray that wizard doesn’t make magic unpopular
$400 for 12 packs. Insane.
For the il informed. Got both of mine for around 230$ eatch. Shoulda graded them before they went up and
That's a BARGAIN!
I remember when Wizards sold three packs of proxies for $1,000.
@Steven-fi4gf the prices have been fluctuating
For $560 worth of cards? Doesn't really seem insane to me.
@@Nemissis4265You are paying more than half for cardboard. Who is the ill informed?
"Premium" magic product, "premium" magic product never changes.
It’s like “premium” gas.
At least premium gas makes high performance engines run better.
@@deadpool1092 but f1 uses e10 xD
Love your unboxing videos! I am one of those people who played magic back in the mid-nineties as a kid and was brought back into the game because of the LOR universes beyond release. I like the IP splashes and I was super pumped about the Fallout release. I have also jumped into MTG Arena and have a much better appreciation for standard and am going back and building out my collection from the last couple of years!
The Lotro commander deck food and fellowship brought me back to the game and has me hooked.
Never stop being you professor, love your content and criticism of these products
Reserved List 2.0 will continue growing until morale improves.
I'm in a halfway opinion on universes beyond. I wish they would slow down the releases so we weren't so saturated with them, but I do like the idea of them and bringing these other stories into the world of magic
honestly my exact feelings. I totally understand frustrations and just wanted magic lore, but some of them are so cool and honestly work well with magic. they need to find a better balance
It’s crazy because some of the fallout cards have awesome flavor in their mechanics, and I feel the same way about all four of the Doctor Who decks which I’m a huge fan of. Genuinely, it feels like so much passion was put into these sets, which is why I wish they slowed them down and made the prices more reasonable so more people can enjoy them
"Its not about the money, its about letting go." From the Sierra Madre, I wished hasbro would learn...
I really love fallout, and magic is so cool, I haven’t had the chance to play in a long time, but when I can afford to I’m totally getting one of the precons!
This was a rad:3 video, and I’m really glad you were actually able to make back the insane $400, with room to spare!
I played mtg with my brother in like 2004 then didn’t play for 20 years. But when commander masters came out I went and bought the new Sliver deck because he used to beat me so bad with it. Helped me reconnect with him. Thanks MTG :)
Gotta love how Prof does math: "20$ plus 50$ plus... that pack is about 35$" xD
I don't mind Universes Beyond, what I do mind though is that there is no Universes Within versions. Nuka Cola Vending Machine is a busted card, but still I won't put it into my decks.
I came to this video with this thought about how Prof doesn't understand that for some people, like myself, there is joy in opening packs and hunting for the cards you want vs. buying singles. Then I learned from The video that the commander decks contain every card in the "set" which completely nullifies that whole though. Genuinely didn't know that, so thanks Prof!
Literally the only reason to get the collector's packs is for cards that can look special, not really too worth it imo
This is false. There are a cpuple cards that are only available in the collector boosters. But none of them are worth the cost.
Well, not 'only' since they're just reprints like Sol Ring and such. @@PennSullivan
My understanding is that you will open these collector packs chasing after alternate arts, showcase treatments, surge foils, extended arts, etc. There aren’t cards exclusively to the collector boosters, but there ARE treatments & foils exclusive to these packs.
So yeah, if you just want the cards, and not the swag, buy the decks.
Even the joy of opening packs can’t compete with the buyers remorse of buying a $400 box.
As a lover of fallout I bought all the vault boy art cards (except for mana vault) and put them in hard cases and displayed them on my hobby room wall. I can take or leave universes beyond I bought a box strictly because I'm a fan of fallout.
Regarding the appeal of universes beyond for new players: A friend of mine with whom I had layed YGO intensely about 16 years ago tried for more than a year to get me into MTG, which he loves today. Never worked for me because I did not want to fall into a game that sucks money out of me continuously and and that takes up so much shelf space. But then the Doctor Who decks came out, through which I also discovered Commander. Bought the decks for me and my GF (we both love the BBC series) and that brought me into the MTG ecosystem. Bought the 60 card precon starter decks, played around with 1v1 duels, then went to my first Sealed and then finally Draft events for OTJ. I also bought the Fallout Caesar Deck (without ever looking at power levels or such, just because I love Caesar and Fallout New Vegas... so hearing you talk about FNV and Doctor Who occasionally on video is a real treat, professor!), which was the first Precon I upgraded myself. All baby MTG player achievements, sure, but a lovely onramp for me.
So as an anecdote, I can confirm, yeah, they get us franchise lovers into MTG with these decks. My girlfriend, still more casually interested in MTG than me at this point, is nevertheless looking forward to the Final Fantasy sets, so even if the game doesn't onramp you fully into its ecosystem, it can also make people come back several times to game worlds they love.
I see the criticism with settings that don't fit the MTG canon though. While I somehow can fit Sci-Fi like DW, FO and Warhammer into my brain, and fantasy like BG and LOTR obviously fit, I have no idea why I should want to play Assassin's Creed or Marvel decks.
Said friend that got me into Magic also showed me your channel btw. Love it, keep it up Professor!
So I’m in a similar mindset to you prof, I don’t like universes beyond, but I love magic. I still play with my friends, but I don’t really buy cards anymore. The few times I have, I’ve followed your long standing advice of just buying singles 🤷🏼♂️ it’s saved me a lot of money in the long run
I have mixed feelings on UB. They’ve done a great job with some of them, but some are kind of duds for me like Fallout, Stranger Things, Transformers, and Street Fighter. I don’t want Marvel, though. That’s just gross
i'm ready for some of the IPs that i am more personally invested in (marvel and final fantasy in particular) to see either alternate versions of cards i like, or new friends :) so far these are fun but, they havent hit the franchises i'm particularly devoted to (if we get a legend of zelda, for example, i will die of excitement)
this product is the one thing that would be worth reusing the VIP boosters intro for, unless you got a box of 30th anniversary of course, then it's that.
Universes Beyond Dr. Who brought me back to Magic after dropping out at Alliances. Digging the Fallout set as well.
"Well, Tragic the Garnering™ isn’t just a game -- it’s an obsession. Not a cologne, either. Some think that the way it changes a person’s life is tragic, but they just don’t understand."
Loved the guessing of the prices, made me laugh so much when it was crazy overestimated. Bless you Prof!
So happy i preordered my Box 2 Month ago for 215€. Pulled about 400€ of Cards + a Serialized Perception Bobblehead
God damn that's wild. I got mine for $265 and the day after, the cards that showed up as already having a price totalled $620 but it's prob closer to $500 now after a week. No serialized tho good hit!
3:07 the editor did u dirty prof
I am genuinely shocked that the surge foils effected the price that much despite it being a relatively tame foiling treatment.
They do look cool.
WDYM. Surge foils look gorgeous.
I think that price will crash hard in a bit. The premium on it cannot last.
Im pretty sure I got a promo Jaya Ballard in a 3 booster repack in like 2006 with a very simialr foiling
@@UltimateDrDoom Surge's look okay, Im still waiting for the day that magic releases Embossed Foil cards, similar to the dragon ball super card game, some of their rarest cards look so sick. (In videos, in pictures they look ass tbh.)
I'd say the most likely cards to get that kind of treatment would be a new run of masterpieces, however.
Ordered 2 for $219.98 ($439.96) on 1-21-24. They arrived today! Guess it's pop 1 and save 1 after watching this!
Well, glad I popped the second .. no serialized. Did get Wise Mothman showcase surge!😂😂
Hello Proff, just wanted to say you are one-of-a-kind and my personal hero. Have a nice day.
Professor: Guesses cards are worth more than they are in pack 1
Also Professor: Guesses that the total worth is less than it is in pack 1
huh
Regarding Universes Beyond, my D&D group had convinced me to occasionally play Magic with them after sessions and just use some of their decks, but I wasn't buying anything myself. LOTR and now Fallout have changed that. I am excited to see characters I know and love in Magic. It also got me to buy other things as well, I really liked WoE and am excited about Thunder Junction. Universes Beyond may not be for everyone, but it's really fun for some of us
There should be a “prof’s guess total” so we can see how far off he was. He mentioned double digits many times and the card would be around a few dollars 😂.
What a wonderful man and channel. Always a pleasure to watch his videos and see his personality shine through whether it be through passion, frustration, confusion, or any other human emotion.
So, I opened two collector booster boxes and had about the same experience as you did opening one. Except my preorder price was $324 each. The current value of all the cards I pulled is about $1150. I didn't really even get a lot of high value cards, except I got the actual $100 Sol Ring. There are a lot of variants in the $2-$5 range,and a handful in the $10-$30 range that makes it likely you will break even, *if you plan to break even*.
However, I bought these just for the fun of opening and exploring all these cards. You got a bit giddy at one point, and I had to laugh. The joy of opening a new set is still an experience that has intrinsic value. As long as I don;t lose a lot of money, I'll enjoy opening a reasonable amount of packs for a set that I have an affinity for. LotR and Fallout just happened to be that for me. I might not do this again for several years, but then again, I have a huge collection of Marvel comics so I may go crazy one more time.
I really loved playing Fallout 4, I played on my vacation with my then girlfriend and now soon to be wife. We played the heck out of it, we amassed something like 13 days of playing hours, it was a blast. When wotc announced fallout set, i was thrilled!!! and the memories of that time came back, we are planning on replaying the games. She have the dogmeat deck, i bought the dogmeat sleeves, playmat, deckbox, the whole thing. The love and emotions and everything cant be explained. That is what I think about the universes beyond, its not a reasonable thing, its something different. We got all 4 commander decks. ;D
enjoying something that doesn't hurt anyone? how is that anything but reasonable.
I think the burnout is taking a toll on us all, Prof. I'd hug ya if I could. Appreciate all you do for this community! I hope you're taking of yourself and that you and your family are doing well!
Personally I love the Fallout stuff. I was worried, but they did a decent job.
Evening prof! I fear one day the booster box game will be the only game related aspect of MTG in lieu of The CCG aspect
A potentially interesting perspective: I got into magic last year because I heard this set was coming. After having played now for around 6 months, I understand the problems with prices and universes beyond in general, but I will always acknowledge that it got me into the game. Magic is awesome, and I am happy to be a part of it. I bought the commander decks and love them.
the comedic timing of his guess and the price is always perfect
Universes beyond is a cool concept its unique to see different types of art styles for cards but I can see it getting out of hand soon
Man, this stuff is way too confusing. 4 decks gets you 100% of the cards. But the Lord of the Rings decks came with cards that were different from the regular packs?
Bruh even Komoney would never do this 💀💀💀
😂😂 what? mark up a collectible item that is scarce? Never herd of Ash blossom have you they had to downgrade the prin so it was available to everyone becuse they got mad it was limited
I love that Magic has found its Andy Rooney. Keep up the good work!
I love this guy. I love his delivery and genuine disgust for this culture but God bless him, he deserves the views
Truth is... the game was rigged from the printer.
I have never been into Magic. However, I am a huge Fallout fan. This release got me into magic, and now I actively play commander. And have been inspired to build my own commander decks. I love all of these cards, and it was a perfect gateway for me to get into the game.
I got my collector booster box form my LGS for $220, luckily those guys do well with online sales that for the locals they always have great in store deals, since they really set out to try and create a hang out spot for all TCG players, and it’s always a good time going in to buy something and the owners are such cool guys that they will always be up to just talk about anything, really good environment
Love the intro Prof 🤣🤣🤣 What's even crazier is here in Montreal, Quebec the USD to CAD is crazy so its like 540$-600$ depending on the LGS... we're better off buying singles
It’s crazy all the big cards you were off by like 40-60 bucks and you still guessed almost 200 bucks low going towards the last pack😂 dope video
19:19 tbh Fallouts the 1st UB that really clicked with me. Fallouts my favorite game series.
That was me wuth BG3! Played as a kid, stopped and a friend bought me a commander pack as a goft knowing i lived the game. Back into it more than ever!
I'm largely indifferent to Universes Beyond, but I get both the PoVs. On one hand I understand that these products muddy the card game Magic The Gathering with its intriguing story and long history. Heck, even I feel the fatigue of being presented with so many different IPs in MTG, rather than actual MTG sets. But on the other, I get the joy you feel when one of your other favorite things crosses over with your favorite card game.
I know I couldn't stay impartial to save my life if WotC released an MLP commander set with 4 Precons, despite how objectively absurd it would be.
I'm super new coming back to Magic (first new sets were WoE/LCI) and can empathize how purists don't vibe with the universes beyond, but I believe UB helps Magic as a whole when the sets reach out to untapped (hah) markets and get new eyes on the game, constantly adding to the player pool just from people seeing characters, locations, objects from universes they are fond of and then, hopefully, they start their journey into building decks with in-universe cards and other UB sets.
Great video as always Prof and Editor 💜
Yeah, that is definitely glowing and radioactive
2:47 Dont pick that up. It belongs on the ground. Ideally stepped on a few times.
“It’s a foil swamp Micheal what could it cost? 5 dollars?” 6:24
I am just here to listen to someone who loves magic talk about magic. Thanks for bein you Professor
Great vid. I love fallout and bought all the pre cons and 4 booster boxes. Can’t wait for the stream!
I'm definitely one of the people who came back to play Magic because of the Fallout commander sets. I know it's not for everyone but it makes me happy and glad to be back.
I love your honest off script stuff proff. Great guesses. Great editing. So cool to do the giveaway. Super classy proff. Respect ✊
I only recently got into Magic the Gathering and I'm not gonna lie the fact that there are Fallout and Lord of the Rings themes decks was a huge selling point for me. I haven't gotteen into the "magic lore" yet but I feel like these Universe beyond sets definitely help pulling people from other tcgs, and in the end, in my opinion this is much more important then "staying pure". A lot of my friends ultimately where convinced to try it out because they could get Jurrassic Park, Fallout and Warhammer 40k cards.
These Collector Boosters brought the most commander card with Ravages of War. And the Vault Boy makes a good community expression.
Just started MTG with these commander decks, and am excited so far! Also want the standard cards so I can see how it's truly meant to be played :D
On the topic of universes beyond, my first introduction to My first introduction to Magic was the Lord of the Rings set. I fell in love with the game through the catalyst of the Lord of the Rings flavor. Now that I've drafted and played with other sets such as WoE and LCI, I do think Magic's original sets are really fun and should 100% be prioritized over sets like a Fallout or Doctor Who. That being said, having a universes beyond set bi-annually or annually would be an effective compromise. In general, it's felt like there are too many sets coming out too quickly, at least for me. It's hard for me to say as a newer player since I don't have the years or decades of attachment to this game, but I think overall, they're good for introducing new player to the game of Magic.
Regarding your doubt towards bitching enough about Universes Beyond, I want to give my two cents as a big Doctor Who fan who has fallen in love with MTG thanks to the UB Commander Decks. I was at first interested because of the art of the DW cards, but intimitaded by the complexity of the game and doubtful I could get into it. It was the Doctor Who Shuffle Up and Play that helped me decide to give it a go. 6 months later, I am in love with this game and play regularly both with a Commander group and a draft group. So while I do understand the criticisms towards UB and am even starting to share some of them, those products do provide an entry-point towards the game, and the fact that you give them a little space on your channel (while remaining critical) helps with that. Anyway, thank you for all you do, Prof!
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I understand why some people may not like these packs or sets of universe beyond. But let me say this.
My GF has never been interested in MTG. Until the fallout packs. Now she loves it.
It got me back into MTG after years of not playing.
If anything, it brings in new and excited players who are showing support for what is basically just a fun game to play, make friends, and have a good time.
Haters can hate, but they shouldn’t complain when there is more support for the game now than ever before! 🐸🤘🏻
Thanks for the video, it was a great watch!
I bought two boxes from a UK based online gaming company and they were priced at around $230 for each before taxes, and before promo discounts that were available depending on the amount of items purchased. Unfortunately, I have get to receive them. The projected date of shipment is on or around 05/01/2024 (the formatting on the site reads 01/05/2024 since it is in the UK).
Well, that video didn't appreciate well. Welcome to MTG! 😂
I just started getting interested again in MTG, and this video was so good, thank you :)