On the sad occasions when I have had to bury a pet in the yard I always covered the grave with a slab or something heavy to stop the OTHER pets digging them up.
Alternative mundane explanation: they were going to cover the grave with that big, heavy stone to stop it being disturbed by animals, and someone did his back in before it was placed as intended. :)
Or it could be both because sometimes you would have people who go to coma who appeared dead and then wake up in their graves, trying to get out and imagine you’re a caveman seeing someone trying to dig their way out of a grave not understanding they were never dead in the first place
Might also be a grave marker that has fallen over. The practice of putting grave markers at the head of a grave isn't necessarily one that's always been followed. Plus it seems odd to put a stone over someone's legs to stop them crawling out. It's easier to crawl out from a weight on your legs than a weight on your chest. Also, I've heard accounts of coffins being piled with rocks in order to sink them into their grave during floods and times of high rainfall. It's possible something like that happened
Upon returning from a family funeral I was told that it is abnormal to attend a funeral primarily to assure oneself that the individual in question was truly dead. Therefore, I shall not state that this was my motive for attendance. In many old graveyards in the American south, some graves are 'capped' with cement slabs. Mama said that it was to mimic expensive tombs and to keep people out. Granny said that it was because 'that old boy needed to be cemented in!' I guess I'll never know which was right. I do know that we painted the porch overhang with 'haint blue' because it kept haints from wandering into the house. Oddly, the overhang often got a fresh coat of blue between the time a person was sure to die and the funeral. Mama said it was so the house would look nice for people making bereavement calls. Granny said 'you know why it's called "haint blue", don't you?'
My 1st thoughts were tsk tsk Click Bait 😒 but on listening it reminds me of the vampire graves in Romania, which I vaguely recall date from middle ages till the present! Also makes me wonder that they must have seen ghosts, even back then 🤔 👍💀🦇🧟♀️
Greetings from Germany! Have you ever been to Germany/ Halle? There is an english TH-cam Channel. We do have circular circles as well at Pömmelte. That would fit into your Journey from göbekli to Stonehenge.
I've sometimes pondered if European's cultural fear of the dead comes from mass plagues, where even after death the body remains dangerous? But I suppose that's dependant on how far back the first plagues go into history!?
Good morning from the beautiful SF Bay Area. Weeeeell, here in the Bay Area we have a long tradition of the Grateful Dead still walking amongst us, like it or not! Hee hee. Have a grateful day.
I thought Christianity had a large part to play in the modern Zombie culture as Christ is said to 'raise the living and the dead', also early newcomers to Christians thought they were cannibals. So you can see the echoes there of raising the dead with eating the flesh of Christ in transmutation of bread.
I just subscribed after watching a few of your videos. I like them. I must say that last spring after I buried my dog I pivoted a heavy stone over him-not to prevent him from getting out, of course, but for preventing the spring bears from pulling him out. Observing the possibility of "zombies" being ingrained in us brings up another subject that I have been thinking about. Your British museum curator Irving Finkel proposed that we could inherit a fear of ghosts and supplies lots of facts for it. I believe now that certain memories can be passed down generations. I wouldn't say this without some proof. A study of ravens showed a couple generations after being scared by a mask the descendants were also afraid. A study of mice that were shocked while eating almonds showed 2 generations later were afraid of almonds. People who experienced starvation during WW2 had grandchildren with metabolic abnormalities. I could go on. I first noticed it in the turkeys that live in the valley in which I live. They gave me the idea that began this little journey of knowledge. Do you ever feel differently while watching a fire at night? That is what I mean. I think there is something to it. Keep up the great videos.
Sounds like some folks are too zombie obsessed projecting a modern fiction on ancient peop l es. We cannot know what that stone meant or when it was placed.
I'm curious.... Could it not be that those supposed anti-zombie burials might have been an afterlife curse? I believe that I've heard ancient Egyptians did that; so I presume other ancient cultures might have wanted to curse someone in the afterlife.
All this revenant stuff sounds like speculation at best. Especially going back to the stone age like that German lady said. She says burying them face down stops them from crawling upwards haha....! How the heck would anyone know that?
I can definitely think of some people I'd make sure stay in the ground once they're buried... I'm supposing if you actually were burying someone alive intentionally, as in for a punishment, you'd either leave them overground for the animals to eat or in a shallow enough grave that they wouldn't die immediately, thus leaving very little evidence of the practice? I've heard that the "uncanny valley" thing stems from dead bodies, things that are almost but not quite like living people. Having seen my mother dead a few hours after her passing, I can understand why.
What a fascinating piece, thank you guys. BTW; there's is a very famous story that a man once rose from the dead and later went on to become the focus of a symbolic blood drinking, flesh eating cult!.....i think that that story is now being hurriedly updated, and repackaged with more relatable, modern symbology/philosophy for the up-and-coming technocratic age that will, the founders hope; assuage the existential angst now being expressed in Western culture......."When the Mooooooooon...". :)
Yes...we can always come up with entertaining interpretations! The dude in question was probably the restless sort in life - you know, always wandering off, looking around for yet another female to impregnate, etc. Someone's wife or betrothed. Once he was good and dead, they placed this slab on him to keep him from further restlessness and causing untold mischief. My tongue-in-cheek interpretation.
I am prompted to ask how deep were these bodies buried at the time they were interred? Animal disturbance or robbing body parts from graves for magic purposes may be alternative explanations. But fear of a demented person returning after death is also quite possible.
2:22 Is it possible thie individual was buried alive? The first interpretation which came to my mind was to wonder if they didn't wish to literally stop him from crawling out while being buried. ... But I'm only two minutes into the video..
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On the sad occasions when I have had to bury a pet in the yard I always covered the grave with a slab or something heavy to stop the OTHER pets digging them up.
So true.
Alternative mundane explanation: they were going to cover the grave with that big, heavy stone to stop it being disturbed by animals, and someone did his back in before it was placed as intended. :)
Good analysis 👍
Seems a rare find for such a widespread problem but good point.
Burials were usually community affairs or at least extended family functions.
First ever case of faking an injury for workers compensation? 😂❤
Or it could be both because sometimes you would have people who go to coma who appeared dead and then wake up in their graves, trying to get out and imagine you’re a caveman seeing someone trying to dig their way out of a grave not understanding they were never dead in the first place
You can be sure that through the annals of time, lots of people's malicious last words were of their vengeful return.
You two gentlemen deliver us with witty and informative content. Thank you.
Might also be a grave marker that has fallen over. The practice of putting grave markers at the head of a grave isn't necessarily one that's always been followed. Plus it seems odd to put a stone over someone's legs to stop them crawling out. It's easier to crawl out from a weight on your legs than a weight on your chest.
Also, I've heard accounts of coffins being piled with rocks in order to sink them into their grave during floods and times of high rainfall. It's possible something like that happened
Zombie Graves and the Walking Dead ... I thought you were talking about the Government benches in the Houses of Westminster 🧟🧟♀🧟♀🧟♀🧟♀🧟♂🧟♂
Upon returning from a family funeral I was told that it is abnormal to attend a funeral primarily to assure oneself that the individual in question was truly dead. Therefore, I shall not state that this was my motive for attendance. In many old graveyards in the American south, some graves are 'capped' with cement slabs. Mama said that it was to mimic expensive tombs and to keep people out. Granny said that it was because 'that old boy needed to be cemented in!' I guess I'll never know which was right. I do know that we painted the porch overhang with 'haint blue' because it kept haints from wandering into the house. Oddly, the overhang often got a fresh coat of blue between the time a person was sure to die and the funeral. Mama said it was so the house would look nice for people making bereavement calls. Granny said 'you know why it's called "haint blue", don't you?'
You guys are more fun than the funny aliens. 😂❤❤
My 1st thoughts were tsk tsk Click Bait 😒 but on listening it reminds me of the vampire graves in Romania, which I vaguely recall date from middle ages till the present! Also makes me wonder that they must have seen ghosts, even back then 🤔 👍💀🦇🧟♀️
Greetings from Alabama USA I enjoy your videos.
do we know the individual was dead when the stone was placed on the legs?
Could just have been the judgement for someone that steals?
Which is worse - knowing that until fairly recently there was no cast iron way of telling someone was actually dead or the threat of the walking dead?
Greetings from Germany! Have you ever been to Germany/ Halle? There is an english TH-cam Channel. We do have circular circles as well at Pömmelte. That would fit into your Journey from göbekli to Stonehenge.
They did speak of Pömmelte some time ago. You'd have to look through their videos.
Hoffe, Sie sind nicht vom Hochwasser betroffen.
Take care
I've sometimes pondered if European's cultural fear of the dead comes from mass plagues, where even after death the body remains dangerous? But I suppose that's dependant on how far back the first plagues go into history!?
If the zombie is still in the grave with the rock still in it's mouth the clearly it worked. 🤪
Perhaps burried alive with the block restricting ability to try and get up.
Gah! My personal nightmare.
Thank you, Guys.
Thank you guys I've just found your channel and I'm still playing catch up. I'm a 55 Yr old failed indiana Jones thanks for the "real" education
Theres a similar thing near Merthyr Tyfil. Its the grave of one of the iron masters ensuring he never gets out.
Good morning from the beautiful SF Bay Area. Weeeeell, here in the Bay Area we have a long tradition of the Grateful Dead still walking amongst us, like it or not! Hee hee. Have a grateful day.
I didn't realise there were so many seasons of Silent Witness. I thought they were just endlessly repeating one or two seasons. 🤣
Thank you.
I thought Christianity had a large part to play in the modern Zombie culture as Christ is said to 'raise the living and the dead', also early newcomers to Christians thought they were cannibals. So you can see the echoes there of raising the dead with eating the flesh of Christ in transmutation of bread.
I wonder how many other 'zombie' graves have been missed, purely because archaeologists have mistaken similar kinds of blocking stones for in-fill
He must have been a bad guy.
I just subscribed after watching a few of your videos. I like them.
I must say that last spring after I buried my dog I pivoted a heavy stone over him-not to prevent him from getting out, of course, but for preventing the spring bears from pulling him out.
Observing the possibility of "zombies" being ingrained in us brings up another subject that I have been thinking about. Your British museum curator Irving Finkel proposed that we could inherit a fear of ghosts and supplies lots of facts for it. I believe now that certain memories can be passed down generations. I wouldn't say this without some proof. A study of ravens showed a couple generations after being scared by a mask the descendants were also afraid. A study of mice that were shocked while eating almonds showed 2 generations later were afraid of almonds. People who experienced starvation during WW2 had grandchildren with metabolic abnormalities. I could go on. I first noticed it in the turkeys that live in the valley in which I live. They gave me the idea that began this little journey of knowledge. Do you ever feel differently while watching a fire at night? That is what I mean. I think there is something to it.
Keep up the great videos.
Sounds like some folks are too zombie obsessed projecting a modern fiction on ancient peop l es. We cannot know what that stone meant or when it was placed.
Well done.
Zombies and vampires as well
I'm curious.... Could it not be that those supposed anti-zombie burials might have been an afterlife curse? I believe that I've heard ancient Egyptians did that; so I presume other ancient cultures might have wanted to curse someone in the afterlife.
Not surprising what people believe. Lots of people believe in supernatural forces, including gods.
All this revenant stuff sounds like speculation at best. Especially going back to the stone age like that German lady said. She says burying them face down stops them from crawling upwards haha....! How the heck would anyone know that?
3:51 LMAO! 😅
I can definitely think of some people I'd make sure stay in the ground once they're buried... I'm supposing if you actually were burying someone alive intentionally, as in for a punishment, you'd either leave them overground for the animals to eat or in a shallow enough grave that they wouldn't die immediately, thus leaving very little evidence of the practice?
I've heard that the "uncanny valley" thing stems from dead bodies, things that are almost but not quite like living people. Having seen my mother dead a few hours after her passing, I can understand why.
4:12 ... So you know the really creepy people were buried face down...
What a fascinating piece, thank you guys. BTW; there's is a very famous story that a man once rose from the dead and later went on to become the focus of a symbolic blood drinking, flesh eating cult!.....i think that that story is now being hurriedly updated, and repackaged with more relatable, modern symbology/philosophy for the up-and-coming technocratic age that will, the founders hope; assuage the existential angst now being expressed in Western culture......."When the Mooooooooon...". :)
Maybe a criminal did something against the tribe ,keep him his soul from wandering !
Do we know if he was already dead?
Maybe it is was a sadistic kind of execution.
Yes...we can always come up with entertaining interpretations! The dude in question was probably the restless sort in life - you know, always wandering off, looking around for yet another female to impregnate, etc. Someone's wife or betrothed.
Once he was good and dead, they placed this slab on him to keep him from further restlessness and causing untold mischief.
My tongue-in-cheek interpretation.
I am prompted to ask how deep were these bodies buried at the time they were interred? Animal disturbance or robbing body parts from graves for magic purposes may be alternative explanations. But fear of a demented person returning after death is also quite possible.
Snickering over past beliefs and church on sunday........
Maybe they did that only with people who where known as sleepwalkers. Lol.
2:22 Is it possible thie individual was buried alive? The first interpretation which came to my mind was to wonder if they didn't wish to literally stop him from crawling out while being buried. ... But I'm only two minutes into the video..
Buried alive?
I aways feel a bit off when I hear about graves being opened up.
How does the archaeologist 'know' anything about beliefs before the invention of writing?
Drinking with anthropologists probably helps. Symposia for ever!
Bring out your dead...
Maybe the stone fell on him and he couldn’t get up.
Victorian resurrection defiers
He hade three stones on top of him and she had none? Talk about hogging the covers!
Maybe the person was a threat in life and kept in the grave on purpose
Theres a great b movie script here cavezombies... ❤😂 Or romanzombies alternately
Could this person have been buried alive? I know there will be no flesh but are there any signs of the cause of death?
"Suggesting", not "indicating".
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