Supa, I wouldn't worry about the changes taking place and how they may affect battlegrounds. You mentioned arenas have dampening to counter these changes; however, battlegrounds also have measures in place such as time limits, points, massive flag carrier debuff stacks, etc. Arenas do not have these attributes to shorten games thus require dampening.
hell no fireball isnt going to be doing shit. it crits for 150k rn. a 70% buff still puts it at useless and you dont use fireball during burst which is trash on fire mage rn
@@Михайло-д2п that doesn't apply only to mages though. Try having a purple health bar and having to cast the shadow bolt or UA. Feels like ppl are running that autokick addon lol.
I picked up the quest as my balance druid and now it will provide me with int on the weapon, but I prefer playing feral. Is there a way to change the reward to give agility instead?
@@TheSmallerPlanet47 Watch the video or read the announcement. The quest is getting ditched and instead you are getting a token to redeem for the weapon you want.
Absolutely insane that pres evoker got zero nerfs. I’m so tired of seeing pres evoker and disc priest every single lobby. And I am not a fan of demon hunters getting a damage buff… I know you have said they aren’t very good, but anytime I go against one their damage seems off the charts.
My issue with this is, Marks hunters were not touched, yet they are ~+100 rating higher than frost mages on the solo shuffle ladder. Not understanding their tuning methods. You nerf a lesser-performing class and don't touch the superior one. I'd like them to explain this.
I think with the damage buffs from last week and the upcoming heal buffs in PvP, HPal could become competitive. Finally. Haste/Meleewings Herald is a lot of fun
Those mistweaver buffs won't even affect anything.... they'll still die in stuns, their teammates will still die when they get kicked, etc... the only thing that made them decent last expansion was that they had powerful cooldowns to trade especially when stunned. with the omega nerfs to revival and peaceweaver and nerfs to cocoon absorbing for nothing, they have nothing to trade for setups and cds. If blizzard is going to nerf cooldowns for healers, at least give them buffs to other cooldowns to balance it out. even a buff to yulon's or yulon's chi cocoon would've been better than passive healing buffs.
@@markk.8485 I've played them all too. Resto shaman and holy priest have to cast almost as much, but monks have the mobility to make it possible. And at least you can cancel your channel after you put enveloping on someone or use vivify, and that healing is applied upfront.
@@cynicist8114 mistweaver has always been ass in competitive arenas... When did you see a caster heal monk the last time in the AWC? Legion? MOP? Fistweaving doesnt count it's just a counter pick and a niche specc. Mistweaver needs a massive rework.
It's always funny to me that DH changes get glossed over most the time because they never do anything massive.... but it's these small incremental buffs that eventually hit a tipping point and we end up being Thanos that everyone wants nerfed to the ground lol. The cycle continues, I'm just glad they fixed eye beam
So at the current state of the game, where mele classes are dominating. Reduce mage barrier (okey, sounds fine), reduce the dmg of all the instants (hmm, okey ...) and then make the mage to cast much more for some dmg(okey), but wait a minute ... DK -> 15s CD absorbing shield, Pets that can 1v1 you easly, stun, silence, grip -> repeat all over again. Furry -> that have 3-4 cd that can gap close you... Rogue -> Dont even have to mantion that shit Hunter -> Same as above ... I love to play different classes, but in the current game state like 80% are really hard to pull off. In solo shuffle I will be forced to cast 1.5s frostfire bolt for about 200k. While with my hunter I dont even need to do that and can go up to 1mln ++. They just kill the fun of the game in favor of some classes. Thanks god I dont have to main nothing here, I can just play the 2-3 braindead classes atm and pretend its fun.
We don't need dh buffs. If dh becomes good or just slightly op, then every braindead melee player will just reroll and we'll have dragonfligt all over again..
Just stop. DH is fine. It’s so easy to play that it should NEVER be tuned to be near the top. You can randomly piano the keyboard and execute a proper rotation on that class.
Bro, they are killing frost mange, and that shield didn’t stay up long with how overturn Malee are currently. I was already Nerf and substantially showing in arena and having to cast what the current met is so foolish. Liz is so good at taking the fun out of specs. I wonder if they actually played the game
So when they try to make a caster class/spec have to cast their hardest hitting spells the class is dead? Riiiiiight.... *side eyes in Aff* I have to be Sequan Barkley to get SBs and UAs off in all PvP environments. All my instants are set ups to pump my casted. How it should be.
Fck at least we had a little spike swith the 3wound doomburst, but was harder to manage lol. Now they take away this….unholy got a bunch of nerfs already…..
Can someone please explain me how does PVE / PVP dividiation works in these blue notes? i mean, i thought its like first changes applying in PVE but not PVP and then in "PVP" section all changes apply to PVP but not PVE but in that case why in the first part we got changes which have sometimes "Does not apply to PVP combat" ?
I wish they would fix the 1600 quest I bought a heroic piece instead of a pvp piece and I put in a ticket they would not revert it making the quest completely useless and a waste of time
One of these days we will see Balance Druid stop being ignored and given the defensiveness it needs to compete with the rest of the casters and in that day the angry chickens shall rise again
This. And don't make it a bear form bs again.. I think making our boomkin form tankier somehow and/or doing something with barkskin like a 2nd charge like a lot of other classes have now. Would be nice to have survival instincts since it's relevant to "angry 'chunky' chickens" as well
This, literally this, boomie has no healing, defensives are poor by comparison. Even hunters have 3 insta heal/walls that out heal my boomie every arena. Everything passively heals more than boomie. It really needs addressed. If they could weave in an insta proc cast of regrowth (like feral) then it would be fixed in an instant.
@bigboytoma yeah bc they gave us an insta regrowth in keeper but it heals like a wet Noodle. Needs to be superpowered like a paladin insta heal. (And give elune's chosen a version)
Shadows mind blast, and death still do to little damange to even consider dark ascension, SWD literally hits for 200k max, its literally more dmg to mind flay instsnity then spam 3 deaths into someone who is 3% hp, and mind blast does just as little dmg, to the point you only use it on procs,
They need to just nerf, snares whether its more DR, or something melee's are just unplayable in solo if any range doesnt just make massive mistake, after massive mistake. lol
So blizzard just wants everyone to play melee or healer, nice, this meta is complete faceroll for melee, can hardly tell who the good players are anymore
@@HKono_ and what double melee teams are you seeing dominating the ladder? Every melee is running with a caster aside from the occasional ww/dk team. But all I’m seeing are rmp/jungle/fmp/DKDev/and wizard cleaves and this is at 2kmmr Ranged are still incredibly strong in TWW
@@Dodgeheat Ofc, but to get OH it's nice to get it for FREE because crafting it when there is a Conquest cap isn't always optimal when that conquest can be used towards other items. This way it frees it up.
damn feral enters TWW as god tier then gets bear buffed then gets more buff but enhance gets one buff then is just not even thought of for the following update? wtf
@@Eityhdz they been buffing feral and resto and boomy for the last 3 tuning patches and they still suck it will probably be at least 2 months before they are actually working properly enh ele and resto shamans however are some of the top specs in the game
@@this_smitty23 I'm not talking from a pvp point of view just look at the sims for the raid feral druid is down the bottom with fire mage and devastation evoker
Bro disc is legit retarded, under big cds it simply cant die...in 2s its better than half dps specs while also outhealing everyone for 0 mana..every 2s team i meet has disc in it cuz u trolling if u got anything else....in 3s it has some of the best comps in the game...disc is the best its ever been...just enjoy it as much as you can and stop yapping nonsense or if you are struggling, get good cuz disc is soo damn good 😅
I’ve watched this 32 times and can confirm this is a very educational supatease video
Nice to see their approach with heals; buff underperforming heals!
buffing them in all the wrong places..
Everyone that waited till next week for their weapon. I salute your patience and now soon you will reap the rewards.
glad they did this conq weapon change after I've crafted 100k gold weapons on 95% of my chars
Supa, I wouldn't worry about the changes taking place and how they may affect battlegrounds. You mentioned arenas have dampening to counter these changes; however, battlegrounds also have measures in place such as time limits, points, massive flag carrier debuff stacks, etc. Arenas do not have these attributes to shorten games thus require dampening.
Some of us crafted pvp weps, now we will be in a disadvantage instead. The change is good but not mid season.
hell no fireball isnt going to be doing shit. it crits for 150k rn. a 70% buff still puts it at useless and you dont use fireball during burst which is trash on fire mage rn
In principle, it is difficult to cast something in pvp as mage. Especially when 2 melees are on you 100% of the time.
@@Михайло-д2п that doesn't apply only to mages though. Try having a purple health bar and having to cast the shadow bolt or UA. Feels like ppl are running that autokick addon lol.
@@marshalllasitter642 Yes. More than once I was shot down in a microsecond that I clicked to cast.
Is the Arms developer on leave?
this made me chuckle
Ironically he’s lost both of his arms. So arms can’t be armed without his arms.
Rare Blizzard W on the conquest weapon changes
Too bad half the weapon choices have the wrong stat options for many specs, free is free I guess.
I picked up the quest as my balance druid and now it will provide me with int on the weapon, but I prefer playing feral. Is there a way to change the reward to give agility instead?
@@TheSmallerPlanet47 Watch the video or read the announcement. The quest is getting ditched and instead you are getting a token to redeem for the weapon you want.
@@hotchowderman stfu!!!!!! You could have also got the wrong one in the vault.
Absolutely insane that pres evoker got zero nerfs. I’m so tired of seeing pres evoker and disc priest every single lobby.
And I am not a fan of demon hunters getting a damage buff… I know you have said they aren’t very good, but anytime I go against one their damage seems off the charts.
My issue with this is, Marks hunters were not touched, yet they are ~+100 rating higher than frost mages on the solo shuffle ladder. Not understanding their tuning methods. You nerf a lesser-performing class and don't touch the superior one. I'd like them to explain this.
I think with the damage buffs from last week and the upcoming heal buffs in PvP, HPal could become competitive. Finally. Haste/Meleewings Herald is a lot of fun
Wait so basically crafting a 2h weapon in week 1 as Fury wasn't necessary? ffs
Those mistweaver buffs won't even affect anything.... they'll still die in stuns, their teammates will still die when they get kicked, etc... the only thing that made them decent last expansion was that they had powerful cooldowns to trade especially when stunned. with the omega nerfs to revival and peaceweaver and nerfs to cocoon absorbing for nothing, they have nothing to trade for setups and cds. If blizzard is going to nerf cooldowns for healers, at least give them buffs to other cooldowns to balance it out. even a buff to yulon's or yulon's chi cocoon would've been better than passive healing buffs.
I agree Mistweaver need a big rework..it's just outdated. The last healer in the game who actually has to cast and even worse channel his healing...
@markk.8485 Rofl, last healer that has to cast? So you've never played resto shaman or holy priest?
@@cynicist8114 Mistweaver has to cannel / cast the most out of all healers... it's not even close...and I play every healer..just saying.
@@markk.8485 I've played them all too. Resto shaman and holy priest have to cast almost as much, but monks have the mobility to make it possible.
And at least you can cancel your channel after you put enveloping on someone or use vivify, and that healing is applied upfront.
@@cynicist8114 mistweaver has always been ass in competitive arenas... When did you see a caster heal monk the last time in the AWC? Legion? MOP? Fistweaving doesnt count it's just a counter pick and a niche specc. Mistweaver needs a massive rework.
Insane to me Evokers are getting ignored... Pres Evokers er waaaay to strong atm
Yes I agree pres needs big nerf
@@zerocharisma1845nope
Y’all want your 50 mins queues back it seems
It's always funny to me that DH changes get glossed over most the time because they never do anything massive.... but it's these small incremental buffs that eventually hit a tipping point and we end up being Thanos that everyone wants nerfed to the ground lol. The cycle continues, I'm just glad they fixed eye beam
So at the current state of the game, where mele classes are dominating. Reduce mage barrier (okey, sounds fine), reduce the dmg of all the instants (hmm, okey ...) and then make the mage to cast much more for some dmg(okey), but wait a minute ...
DK -> 15s CD absorbing shield, Pets that can 1v1 you easly, stun, silence, grip -> repeat all over again.
Furry -> that have 3-4 cd that can gap close you...
Rogue -> Dont even have to mantion that shit
Hunter -> Same as above ...
I love to play different classes, but in the current game state like 80% are really hard to pull off.
In solo shuffle I will be forced to cast 1.5s frostfire bolt for about 200k.
While with my hunter I dont even need to do that and can go up to 1mln ++.
They just kill the fun of the game in favor of some classes. Thanks god I dont have to main nothing here, I can just play the 2-3 braindead classes atm and pretend its fun.
We don't need dh buffs. If dh becomes good or just slightly op, then every braindead melee player will just reroll and we'll have dragonfligt all over again..
Resto Druid getting left behind feels bad
Do you think this will be enough to bring HPalla in line with disc in 2’s and 3’s. Probably not?
This company really doesn’t know what they’re doing.
So now that we spent our 10 tokens on a weap with good stats, they go back on it? Feels shitty
Yea.. its, we will be in disandvantage in 2-3 pieces of gear. Such insane change to do mid season.
Shoulda just waited for the 2500 conquest. Be patient next time
All pvp content creators warned yall
@@gorecomplex it had nothing to do with patience. it showed what weapon the quest gave and it was incorrect stats. then they switched up
So for blizzard Warrior Arms is in a perfect stade PVP and PVE because NO FKING CHANGE.
Good blizzard… good… all is fine.
So let me get it right !! i have 2500 points and i dont have the achievement and now i have to do another 2500 points? IS IT REAL?
look i know it will get hate but thats a good step in the right direction for demon hunters but demon hunters survival is the issue
Just stop. DH is fine. It’s so easy to play that it should NEVER be tuned to be near the top. You can randomly piano the keyboard and execute a proper rotation on that class.
@@johnryan3622 it's not the playstyle it's the survival of the class it's weak compared to others i don't even main the class
Marksman literally deletes all casters and doesn't die. Glad we nerd everything else and leave hunters as God's with 4 button s
giving them 2 charges on wall AND a shorter cd on their wall was the most troll thing they could've done.
Bro, they are killing frost mange, and that shield didn’t stay up long with how overturn Malee are currently. I was already Nerf and substantially showing in arena and having to cast what the current met is so foolish. Liz is so good at taking the fun out of specs. I wonder if they actually played the game
I really wish Liz knew how to balance properly. Fuckin' Liz.
Dude frost mages are Op right now. It's a nightmare dealing with them
So when they try to make a caster class/spec have to cast their hardest hitting spells the class is dead? Riiiiiight.... *side eyes in Aff* I have to be Sequan Barkley to get SBs and UAs off in all PvP environments. All my instants are set ups to pump my casted. How it should be.
Is that some kind of joke with greater pyro 4 sec cast time?
Fck at least we had a little spike swith the 3wound doomburst, but was harder to manage lol.
Now they take away this….unholy got a bunch of nerfs already…..
Can someone please explain me how does PVE / PVP dividiation works in these blue notes? i mean, i thought its like first changes applying in PVE but not PVP and then in "PVP" section all changes apply to PVP but not PVE but in that case why in the first part we got changes which have sometimes "Does not apply to PVP combat" ?
what is what
@@hallelujah3119 ?
I hope I get twin peaks as a mw monk on horde side all the way to 2500💀
No moonkin and Demo buffs ???
Nothing on warriors? 🤔
Sad about the void form nerf ☹️
Another nerf for Sub.
great, i've already spent tokens on crafting weapons..
Im happy that wpeapons changed some classes get bis some totally ussles
I wish they would fix the 1600 quest I bought a heroic piece instead of a pvp piece and I put in a ticket they would not revert it making the quest completely useless and a waste of time
Thank god they removed the weapon quest!
The Feral bleed buffs of the base Druid spells (rake/rip) also should apply to the other specs, I would assume. Can someone confirm? X
shadow can they pls remove cat time from Dark ascension
Can a feral Druid get a fckin bite build. Druid of the claw looks awesome but looks like we’re just back to plain Jane 100% dot pressure
One of these days we will see Balance Druid stop being ignored and given the defensiveness it needs to compete with the rest of the casters and in that day the angry chickens shall rise again
Make the Chicken GREAT AGAIN!
This. And don't make it a bear form bs again..
I think making our boomkin form tankier somehow and/or doing something with barkskin like a 2nd charge like a lot of other classes have now.
Would be nice to have survival instincts since it's relevant to "angry 'chunky' chickens" as well
This, literally this, boomie has no healing, defensives are poor by comparison. Even hunters have 3 insta heal/walls that out heal my boomie every arena. Everything passively heals more than boomie. It really needs addressed. If they could weave in an insta proc cast of regrowth (like feral) then it would be fixed in an instant.
@bigboytoma yeah bc they gave us an insta regrowth in keeper but it heals like a wet Noodle. Needs to be superpowered like a paladin insta heal. (And give elune's chosen a version)
Shadows mind blast, and death still do to little damange to even consider dark ascension, SWD literally hits for 200k max, its literally more dmg to mind flay instsnity then spam 3 deaths into someone who is 3% hp, and mind blast does just as little dmg, to the point you only use it on procs,
Spike Instant Cast ftw
Bruh so a ton of casters crafted their weapons and then they do this
Not being funny.. But MM hunters already spank mages.. The nerf to that shield is gonna be hella baaaaad now we gonna need to stop and cast more.
They need to just nerf, snares whether its more DR, or something melee's are just unplayable in solo if any range doesnt just make massive mistake, after massive mistake. lol
So blizzard just wants everyone to play melee or healer, nice, this meta is complete faceroll for melee, can hardly tell who the good players are anymore
Except everything 1800+ are evokers; frost mages; hunters; and aff locks
@@drbeef5054 a simple check of the leaderboards shows you’re wrong lol
@@HKono_ and what double melee teams are you seeing dominating the ladder? Every melee is running with a caster aside from the occasional ww/dk team. But all I’m seeing are rmp/jungle/fmp/DKDev/and wizard cleaves and this is at 2kmmr
Ranged are still incredibly strong in TWW
Man wanna get some counter to rogues. Buff retri aswell than hahaha.
Do they think resto drood is good atm ? What the fuck are they smoking buffing every heal but drood
Ffs ffs ffs ffs ive crafted a 2h weapon cos stats on conq quest weapon were shite...now you can pick weapon FML
They ought to nerf the fuck out of marksman hunter
They’re easy to kill tbh, use ur brain maybe.
been saying this for years
No they do not
dont think frost mage and disc nerfs were enough. frost needs cc/mobility nerfs and disc need tankiness/dam nerfs. also, where's the mm nerf?
No it doesn’t. Boohooo melee Can’t stick to mage like other casters where it feels like they’re fighting a pve mob
No, they dont need to be a turret class.🤦
@@okiv99 brother, you need to go touch grass
@@knifetoucheryou have no clue what you’re talking about lol
@@knifetoucher U essentially want it to just be a bad warlock lol. I can tell ur a ret pala main for sure.
ah yes fuck me sideways, just made my weapon for my retri.. because the quest gave me the crit weapon..
I’m pretty sure making weps are better than cq weps
Depends on the spec
@@Dodgeheat Ofc, but to get OH it's nice to get it for FREE because crafting it when there is a Conquest cap isn't always optimal when that conquest can be used towards other items. This way it frees it up.
Weapons of conquest are stupid because the crafted wepon is literally bis for 90% of the classes
damn feral enters TWW as god tier then gets bear buffed then gets more buff but enhance gets one buff then is just not even thought of for the following update? wtf
I mean enhance is good what do you mean haha
@@facehugger8995 so you’re saying ferals bad so they deserve these buffs back to back to back?
@@Eityhdz they been buffing feral and resto and boomy for the last 3 tuning patches and they still suck it will probably be at least 2 months before they are actually working properly enh ele and resto shamans however are some of the top specs in the game
@@facehugger8995Ferals been in a very solid spot and r sham is nowhere near as powerful as disc or pres are atm.
@@this_smitty23 I'm not talking from a pvp point of view just look at the sims for the raid feral druid is down the bottom with fire mage and devastation evoker
Frost mage is the most rtrded spec off alltime xD they need to nerf that bullshit infinte roots
buff rogue
they didnt nerf preservation evo but they nerfed disc....insane.pres is broken devastation is broken so lets nerf disc priest.
Bro disc is legit retarded, under big cds it simply cant die...in 2s its better than half dps specs while also outhealing everyone for 0 mana..every 2s team i meet has disc in it cuz u trolling if u got anything else....in 3s it has some of the best comps in the game...disc is the best its ever been...just enjoy it as much as you can and stop yapping nonsense or if you are struggling, get good cuz disc is soo damn good 😅
no ele buffs?!
Do you think ele needs buff? All shaman specs are top tier rn.
@@alpfeanor6431 ele and enh mains are mega delusional
@@HKono_ I think they do not check numbers 🤣
Shamans are literally blizzard's favorite son after mages
I main ele. We do not need buffs lmao
fire mage and demo locks are the F tier, mage buffs are a joke, and demo got NOTHING? .... meanwhile fury is unkilable, unstopable, unkitable.
NOICE.
Dev has no utility
MM nerf where?
Mages are going down ! -dk 😂
Cry in ARMS
Frost mage got better buffs than fire. LMAO
I really think disc should’ve been nerfed even more than this
frost mage is buffed ? what the hell are they smoking ???
It's hardly a buff
its a nerf dur durr
Devastation Evoker desperately needs durability *and* DPS buffs. Additionally, *every* healer needs nerfs in PvP.
First
Buffing everything for Fire except Pyro😂 Fireball will hit for more by end of the season
even if they buffed fireball by 200% nobody would cast it