I am the only white person living in an all black neighborhood and I can confirm that it is not always as the host portrays. I understand that the host is speaking from his point of view and that’s all he can do, but a white person living in a black neighborhood isn’t left alone because “black people are used to living in a white persons world.” I have people approach me constantly asking why I live in this area and unfortunately, if a negative interaction takes place, it always includes negative words concerning my race. This year I had to move my son from the local school that is two streets away and move him to one that is twenty minutes away, because of how much bullying he received due to his skin color at an all black school. Just like I don’t pretend to know any black person’s experience with racism, I don’t think the host should pretend to know a white persons experience living in a black neighborhood.
I totally agree with what you are saying, but could it be that he was speaking in terms to relative to the experiences of Blacks vs whites and not just one offs? I am unsure if you are from the Milwaukee area but I am. I am Black and I recall attending private Catholic grade school and high school. I have always been considered academically inclined. I had nuns and priests for teachers. I did not know what it was called when I was younger but as I got older I learned what I experienced was sheer racism from the nuns. Some were racists asf. Got a great education though.
I feel you. I'm glad you moved your child and I hope he doesn't grow up to resent us all. 😢 Sorry he had to experience that. I hope you guys can "make it out of the hood" like how many hood people dream of doing.
I understand! It's 1976... I'm 14 years old living in a prominently white neighborhood. I join a out of town local rifle team. All girls mixed nationalities races. Whatever makes people happy calling different skin colors. I befriend a girl Who happens to be a dark skin girl? Originally her mom was from Jamaica but she's a black American as on my white American Irish polish descent. We quickly become friends... I then meet this new guy, long story short I'm 15 he's 18... I tell him I want to meet. tell him I want him to meet my family. He says to me "but what are they going to say?" I reply " Say about what?" He answers, "that I'm Puerto Rican' I say "what's Puerto Rican?"... We never used these terms growing up... Little did I know that having my parents racing me to believe everybody's equal. They are not preparing me for the evil world outside. Now I love R&B since I was 5 years old, used to play my record player on my friend porch. Now the local roller skating rink is announcing "Soul Night" All three of us are quickly excited to go roller skating that night, listening to our favorite music and groups. My boyfriend drives he's 18. He's Puerto Rican remind you, I'm the Irish white girl & bff dark skinned black girl (Let me mention we are STLL BFF 47 yrs now🩷& PR BF became my husband as we have a 43-year-old son together. Three grandchildren and a great granddaughter ❤)... So we parked the car. All three of us get in line to pay and grab our skates as the musics blasting. We're excited to get in. All of a sudden I don't know where the majority of people there were (African Americans blacks whatever makes people happy and not so sensitive in saying)... Me my best girlfriend and my boyfriend get elbowed out of the place... As we hit the doorway outside, we see we're in trouble. We start running for our car actually running for our lives as we're being chased and we thankfully get in our car as we're pulling away. These teenage kids are jumping on our car banging on our windows. I just wanted to go roller skating!!! Mom and Dad, why didn't you prepare me for this?💔😓... My best friend Who witnessed this and also was frightened for her life to be with me, All three of us were not wanted there... And let me tell you early 80s I would take her to the nightclubs for dominantly white and we would dance all night and she would have drink spot for her. Then again I go to the clubs where she grew up near the projects and we would hang out but little did we know I wasn't welcome at the nightclub as well. The women at her club again elbowed both of us out the door. What an ugly world this can be. We just try to distance ourselves from these awful people and try to keep our own circle of people like us who just love people❤❤️🩹
Boy, I should have proofread before posting as voice. Texting is terrible. No spell check. Sorry and no I'm not dumb. Just careless and my voice texting😂
For Dahmer I feel it wasn’t that he had a Specific hatred against minorities. As the gentleman said.. he was cunning and smart. He chose minority neighborhoods that were under policed and where he would fall under the radar and not be a suspect. Swift, deliberate and cunning.
@Jay Pat That’s also a thought you’re right. But it would be poor journalism if I didn’t ask that question and you know that. I ask questions people want to know. Not the ones that make white people remain comfortable!
Well they are not under policed bc when the last almost victim ran outside, police were right there. The problem was that blacks were viewed only as threats and police didn’t view them as people who need protection.
This interview is done very professionally the other interview he did the host kept talking over him and rushing him in times he was thinking hard about the questions being asked.
@@Thegreatlydestinedpodcst wishing you all the best, you can definitely tell the difference between a real journalist and these so called you tube journalist, I hope you make the life you want from this , . I've subbed and look forward to future content, ...
Dahmer almost got me. The only thing that saved me was 2 things. I had my own money and I was only attracted to street trades. Those are straight men who trade sex for something of value. Dahmer tried to lure me to his apt under the guise of sex or something for money. All those guys who went to his apt was promised something for money including Tracey Edwards who was a street trade. I know that because i had sex with him. He was so drugged out the last time I saw him I just kept driving. Does not look like anything remotely like he looked back then. I still live in Milwaukee. I even met the woman who had called the police on Dahmer when he drilled a hole in the little Loatian kid head and the kid was outside naked and Dahmer convinced the cops they were lovers and he killed the kid as soon as he got him back inside his apt. The cops threatened to arrest the Black lady. Milwaukee was racist asf back then.
I really enjoyed listening to Vernell, so insightful! I could understand his viewpoints and relate to the fact it was a very different “time” back then. Thank you for interviewing him.
I was born Aug 10 1982 & I remember when we would leave our doors unlocked during the summer times were different indeed. So Jeffrey is a different kind of evil I always found more profoundly evil than Ted Bundy or gacy. Jeffrey is beyond the pale
Vernell said: 'Dahmer was slick and way ahead of me thinking he knew when I shut that second door I was in in my apartment he stopped cussing behind the door'!😂😂😂
I just can’t this neighbor that said there was a disgusting smell coming out of his apartment and he never did anything about it what the fuck and now he’s writing a book and making money off it you should’ve cared about what was going on back then now with all these Victims families have to suffer by reading somebody else’s capitalism on what he did to all his victims!
Great Interview! I was 18 years old in 1991 and i vividly recall seeing the The Jeffrey Dahmer news footage on the news and I have been haunted and fascinated by this case ever since. It sent chills down my spine actually being a young gay black man myself.I purchased Mr Vernells book a couple years ago and just browsed thru it and tucked it in my closet and forgot about. But once the Netflix series premiered it sparked my interest in dahmer again so I finally got around to reading the book. Very interesting read. Mr Vernell seems to be a very straight forward man with no ulterior motives but to tell his experience with Jeffrey. Thank you for this interview. You really asked him a lot of questions that I always wondered about. Great Job! Please do more Dahmer interviews if possible. Especially if the victims families are willing to come on your platform✨💫
I'm glad that you we're not one of his victims that's what he targeted the most gay black men. Me being a straight man I wouldn't have been his target but I'm glad it All over. Plus I was too young I was 5 in 91.
@@theoneandonlykyle9800 what’s weird tho for me is I am born and raised in Miami and I was a 8 or 9 year old kid and years later we come to find out Jeff Dahmer was actually in Miami Florida during that time and Adam Walsh a six year old boy was kidnapped and decapitated! I honestly think Jeffrey dahmer was the killer of Adam Walsh even tho another man was charged. Too coincidental he was in that SAME area and the child’s head was found.
Because cooking and eating a person isn't far from eating an animal just a different texture and taste. And medical examiners and funeral home ppl constantly smell dead bodies and don't get sick. It's called repetition. He got used to it where it didn't even bother him
It just like working at a dump facility or working with sewage. Your nose gets used to it and you no longer notice the smell anymore. But if another person smells the smell for the first time then it is going to smell horrible for them.
A fascinating testimony. What an absolute indictment of the Milwaukee PD. He was so confident in his actions as he knew his whiteness along with the institutional racism would cloak him. Those poor men deserved more. Such a disgusting evil monster.
He did not have to say it. Unless you lived there during that time and knew the culture you would know that to be more likely than not. I lived there and still live there. Milwaukee had just changed Police chiefs and the previous Chief Brier was openly racist and the police officers under him was just an extension of his behavior. There was always whispers he was connected to the Milwaukee Klan which was very prominent on the south side of Milwaukee where no Blacks lived or dare venture into for fear of being stopped by the cops or attacked by the yt citizens. Dahmer had to have know the power Dahmer dynamics that were in play back then. Fast forward toward, you still have some yt people calling the cops on Blacks and weaponizing the cops to carry out the racism for them. For the most part it does not work for them but when it does work for them and have a just as racist cop that shows up those are only ones that goes viral most of the time. . @@thatrogersmith
'white guys wouldnt feel comfortable living with all these black people. " LOL! In my neighborhood all the poor people lived together! Black and white and a few other cultures ! And to be honest we all had fun doing it somehow, right? I look back now and I am so thankful that the town i went to high school in ,was like that! When your young you dont pay attention to that stuff. It took years before i realized that wasn't normal. I eventually moved out to the country and realized the rest of the world was set up a bit differently, sadly.
Same. I grew up in the projects, no one looked at color, no one cared. We all played and got along. And even all the adults got along... Black white, we even had Jahovas Witnesses in our neighborhood click. But my parents got tired of having their car broke in, etc... And worked hard and we also moved out the country, to a fixer upper and I got picked on for a few yrs because of how the house looked at first. But they renovated it and it turned into one of the nicest house on the road. Lol, those country people were far meaner at first than any project people ever was.
@@Em22-wtfYes you are right! When money is tight and everyone is barely getting by, folks are quick to band together and help each other! The beauty of our experience is that we got to see everyone through the eyes of a child, when people were just people, regardless of color. I also moved to a run down house out in the country. People are far more opinionated and hateful . Now I highly value my childhood experience, I have come to realize how blessed I have been in my life!
I thought this was a great interview, you asked the right questions and Vernell seemed very nice and forthcoming with first hand knowledge, awesome stuff.
Several times in my life I’ve found myself living in either all hispanic or black buildings/neighborhoods. I never once was scared or bothered. I became apart of the community and got close with many people on the block.
Dahmer was completely out of control in the end. I believe he wanted to get caught or at the very least he didn’t care anymore. It would have happened very soon if not when it did. He is exactly where he should be. Where all monsters should go…..
This is just speculation but Dahmer might have been taking shortcuts through other properties on the way to his apartment because he thought someone might find out what block of apartments he lived in if he walked straight into the Oxford Apartments off the street. Dahmer did ask taxi drivers to park a couple of blocks away for example so that no-one could later trace where they dropped Dahmer off if the police investigated the disappearance of the guy he was with. For Dahmer, it was less of a risk to walk through other properties on the way home than to walk directly to his apartment off the street, in case he was being followed by someone who suspected him as the killer (private investigator, family member of a victim or just someone suspicious of him who wanted to know where he lived). Dahmer killed 12 people in 14 months while living in this apartment block - he was not stupid and he had every reason to believe that someone wanted to know where he lived given all these disappearances that someone would have linked to him via witnesses. He also, once the bodycount reached 8 or so, started travelling to Chicago via bus to get his next victim - where he found Weinberger, Turner and Lacy, deliberately so that when they went missing, it was in a much larger city, so it wouldn't look like too long a string of missing people in Milwaukee.
@@queenofnyc5584 Lol! He has like 3 life sentences! Get it? There was no cure for Dahmer! Scarver was the only cure! At least make him feel like he did some justice is all I'm saying. Unfortunately he blew it killing the other guy! He had 1 life sentence for about 1 year or more when he killed them. If he just focused on Dahmer, I am guaranteed it would have gotten dismissed! Dahmer needed to leave this world! Honestly saying, Scarver actually sounds like a str8 up guy that was forced to snap in his first murder! I'm not saying his actions were right but he was pushed to his limit if you read his story. I would have given him 10 years honestly for involuntary manslaughter due to temorary insanity! Parole in 7 years.
The stench he saw was paranormal activity. The souls of the people he killed died violently and may not have "crossed over". Tracy said Jeffrey watched "exorcist" and went into a "trance" like state. Also the thriller video of the fog in the grave yard and the "occult disclaimer". That stuff is real. The kingdom Hall excommunicated Michael for the video.
Glenda Cleveland did exist I had the pleasure or displeasure if you will to meet her at one of the places I had worked which I will not name. The cops had threatened to arrest her and her niece when they literally saw the little Loatian kid naked in the streets and cops allowed Dahmer to take him back in and literally kill him almost instantly. That is how racist it was back then. We had just got rid of a openly racist police chief Harold Brier but a lot of the cops were still on the force with the same mindsets.
@@TasteTestTitan Because you can sense in her wording and body language she still bore the guilt of feeling she could have done more to save the little boy that in her perception she felt the cops hand him back to Dahmer only to be immediately killed. It was like she was suffering from some type of PTSD.
Vernell corrected the fact that Pamela was Jeff's female neighbour and not Glenda. The only reason why Netflix swapped Pamela for Glenda was cause of her previous drug convictions.. it would change the narrative entirely@@imhereforitall9218
I’m a white female and I love my white folks and I love my black folks. They are both my family and friends!! I embrace our differences! I’m a Christian and I have good friends who are Islamic. Why can’t we all just get along.
Thank you for not interrupting him. Opening the door to the main hallway to air out the apartment does not sound like something a guilty man would do. I believe Mr. Bass is telling the truth about this. I'm just saying that this isn't the behavior of a guilty man. It's the exact OPPOSITE of what a guilty man would do.
This man is a thinker!!! and thinker's always like to take their time to listen and answer you as honestly as they can...This man is worth taking the time to listen to... Today we are rushed, when it comes to answering a question...I grew up as a child being told take your time ...this way you will get it right the first time around... Take your time...do not let anyone rush you to answer their questions, especially when you know you are telling the truth....
I have seen this man interviewed before in a show, or documentary. He seems like a man who I would be very cool with being my neighbor, he is a laid back and friendly type cat.
Vernell gave a great interview . It was informative and entertaining.. wonder when he said his wife told things that did not happen to make her story better. Maybe the more she made the story bigger and better the Movie producers PAID HER MORE GIVING HER INCENTIVES.. I BELIEVE VERNELL . HE NEVER TRIED TO HID HIS PAST LEGAL PROBLEMS OR LIKE HIS EX WIFE HE NEVER TRIED TO BETTER HIS STORY.. I HAVE TRIED TO FIND HIS BOOK. I HAVE JUST WATCHED THE VIDEOS THAT WAS PUT OUT WITH MR. BASS. I ALSO JUST FOUND OUT TODAY AGAIN TRYING TO FIND MORE INFO ON HIS BOOK I FOUND OUT THAT HIS BOOK HAD BEEN PUT OUT WAY EARLIER BEFORE.. I WILL KEEP TRYING TO FIND HIS BOOK .. I have to go back and add that the INTERVIEWER REALLY DID A GOOD JOB RESEARCHING FOR THE RIGHT QUESTIONS TO ASK MR. BASS. MOST INTERVIEWERS JUST MAKE UP QUESTIONS AS THEY GO ALONG AND THE INTERVIEWS JUST BECOMES BORING AND SILLY. BUT YOU COULD TELL THIS HOST READ THE BOOK..SO I WOULD FOLLOW THIS HOSTS PODCASTS AND PLATFORMS..
The cops failed the one victim they never took him to the hospital to be checked out even if he was drunk you never take someon back who runs out of a apartment from someone
I have not seen the documentary but he is so accurate. That area was not the ghetto, at least it was not back then. I actually was going to move into the building and it was very pristine and well kept. I ended up moving 2 blocks away on 25th & Wells and that was in 1985 and I moved away in 1987 pre-Dahmer.
I enjoyed listening and watching Vernell and his interviewer. I am a white old Australian man, and take people as they are. I always liked America and interested in the cross cultural milieu. Thank you for allowing me into your neighborhood, and best wishes.
Congratulations Vernell Bass on your book. I find it compelling being so close to him. Having a repore with a monster like Dahmer. I've always said you don't know someone by looking at them. In time you'll be amazed!
Hey I am from milwaukee and i lived two blocks south on 25th and wisconsin at the time when Jeff dahmer moved into the Oxford apartments in 1990 and he contacted my father to clean his carpet my father went to his apartment to do a estament after 3 mins of being in this apartment jeff changed his mind about my dad carpet glenda cleveland niece Nicole childress is the one that called 911 when she encountered jeff with konrad glenda cleveland called the police again to do a follow up about konrad when Nicole childress her niece pressed her aunt to do so
@@Thegreatlydestinedpodcst hi there I was 3 Years old at the time and that area in the early 90s was dangerous a lot of drive bys and trap houses then in that area of milwaukee
One Question that I hoped you had asked Mr Vernell was in reference to the homeless man who hung out with him for a few days . My question was after all the events unfolded and the victims who were found in his apartment were identified did he recognize any of the men in the photos we now know were victims? Did he see the homeless man in the photos of the victims or did he recognize anyone from the photos we see of the victims. Also my other question was does he think the unsolved murder victim who was found dead in his apartment ( Dean Vaughn) was a victim of Dahmer in hindsight? I ABSOLUTELY believe Dahmer killed Mr Vaughn Thank you
This baffled me about the series. Glenda Cleveland not being his next door neighbour is a well known fact. Everything else seems accurate. They should have included the Basses in the series instead.
When I hear people saying the truth I have to applaud! You got it totally right! Dahmer was kind of off. I do not know know how anyone who had a conversation with Dahmer could help but notice something was just weird about him. Could not put my finger on it. Just something unright about him. Maybe more people around him noticed it and just brushed it off? You noticed this right away and acknowledged it. I cannot believe there are others who were creeped out and stayed away. They all want to say he seemed normal to them but I wonder about the ones who picked up on an eerie vibe and were repelled.
He wasn’t as weird as he seemed on the Netflix series . He was more outgoing and acted more “Normal “ then most might think. You had to think he was gay and in his younger days didn’t look half bad . He definitely wasn’t as monotone as the show made it seem.
Today we all know killed and back than maybe they thought he was odd but nothing like we think today. So I can see people not thinking anything of him in that sense.
You Sir area real talent. Fledgling communication majors take note. This is how you interview and engage your audience. Vernell is a wonderful and interesting man.I will be looking for his book.
I am a new listener, in fact this was my first episode. I’m so impressed by you and your guest. Your guest was a very interesting and inspiring person. I appreciated his candid and very honest opinions and responses. I’m buying the book and subscribing to your channel! Thank you ❤
Varnell seemed to be a decent person very smart and methodical and this whole situation was very sad and still is, there is no way anyone would ever know that those horrible crimes occurred, and by the way crimes like this happen all the time and in suburbs also, and in the case of the man that kidnapped three people and impregnated one of them NOONE KNEW and that was in the suburbs also.
I like that what he said, ..." I regret ... penetrated my kindeness..." I now only trust newborn babies, toddlers, myself and THE DEVINE. Adults an absolutely NO. Adults are tricky, mean and 2 face.
Vernell wrote this book in jail with a pencil stub and scraps of paper. I think that's amazing. I have access to a whole computer and don't do a thing.😩
Especially since he had been arrested and convicted for a sexual assault crime on the victims brother... Like they could've just searched him up and then they would've known he was a threat!! Get real
😂😂😂 the fact he took Dahmer being creepy was the Caucasian playing out! This is an amazing interview ❤thanks Oh and similar to a hoarder ppl CAN absolutely become "nose blind"
As a white man I really appreciate both of your opinions and what you spoke about and I wish nothing but success health and wealth for yourself and your family’s. Very well put together video . God Bless
Thank you so much for that! And thank you for understanding why as a journalist it was needed for me to bring up race, given the majority of his victims were black
@@behindyou3689 my comment was for the creator of the video not you and is completely relevant given the subject matter discussed in the video. Obviously no harm in my comment or controversy intent, go touch grass
@@maxmtr5132 I know it's for the creator and it's a good thing that they know that you're a white man sorry if it sounded like I was making fun of you I wasn't my bad dude.
Hearing this neighbor of Dahmer's speak on being his neighbor, I can see why Dahmer got away with it, right up under his nose. This guy knew but minded his own business.
I wouldn’t buy his book even if they gave it to me for free he contradicts himself first he says say something if you hear something and then in the end of his interview he says he’ll never say anything he’ll mine his own business and he’ll where is blinders he could’ve save some lives he is so contradicting!
4sure, late night power tool sessions to open holes in a live human's skull, in order to pour acid directly into their brain, to make a zombie robot sexslave, is bound to cause the type of noise that would be alarming in even a literal war zone with bombs dropping and missiles flying
Uzezi, sir, your channel is perfectly named; it is destined for greatness! No doubt this channel is going to blow-up. Wishing you much success and happiness! (subscribed!)
This made me feel incredibly special! ❤️❤️“Greatly Destined” is actually the meaning o my name Uzézi. It’s a Nigerian name! So it was only right I called it “The Greatly Destined Podcast”
I have serious respect for this dialogue. Much respect and appreciation for these two men of color. Damn, I just couldn’t believe what those tenants had to deal with (smelling death), and the fact a serial killer lived among them. I’d freak the f out… that shyt was loud bc of neighbors knew who likely it was
Fascinating interview. It's disappointing to hear first-hand from Vernell that the documentary had so many facts wrong. I noticed facts from the televised trial hearings were different in that documentary too. Don't know why documentary makers want to twist the truth so much, doesn't help their credibility.
Vernell has a very strong mind. Becuase if I was to live next to a murder i would need some time to recover.. and dahmer definitely wanted to get caught becuase he didnt want to do it anymore but just didnt know how to stop. He was an undercover maniac, and it was to late for him to start over.
My 1st time watching this channel and kudos to the interviewer and the interviewee 👏👏👏 I couldn't fully watch the Netflix series although I got a small obsession to watching documentaries on him. I was very intrigued by his life and the victims lives as well and it became more interesting because each documentary gave more explanation and/or insight , all in different ways so I always watched them except for the reenactments, idk just wasn't a big fan of that , some but not many. Rip to all the victims and their families as well as the man who survived, especially him because he still has to live with it all etc❣️💪🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
There are quite of men that escaped Dahmer's grasp who may never come forward for varying reasons. I am one of them. Commenting on this post is almost therapeutic.
Let’s dispense with the dumb questions and comments. -Dahmer didn’t have working alarms or security cameras. That was a deterrent for potential problems. -Dahmer handing out sandwiches was a bunch of BS concocted by Pamela Bass. She was basking in the overnight 15 minutes of fame this story brought. She fabricated it and put a more eerie spin to the events. -Glenda Cleveland was an across the street neighbor. The Netflix docu series made her into his neighbor from across the hall but in actuality it was Pamela Bass that was the one noticing certain things going on.
There is a Glenda, but she didn't live in the same building. The one in the show is a character mixed with his actual neighbor and Glenda, who called the police in the konerak incident
@The Greatly Destined Podcast Man I just finished listening, thoroughly enjoyed it. You are great at carrying a conversation and bringing out great bits of knowledge and information from Vernell, who is also an amazingly interesting and well-spoken man. Hope you can keep at this podcast stuff cuz I have no doubt you can make a living doing this kind of work!
I lived in Milwaukee until 3 years ago, and at the time of this horrific incident. For the last 10 years, (when living in Milwaukee), I lived right down, 200 feet from the bar where he met some of his victims. I went at around the same time that Jeffrey Dahmer frequented that bar. No, I'm a straight Caucasian woman, but never actually saw him there, but was with a couple of friends that were gay. Back then, it wasn't a big deal for a straight person to go to a guy bar. Anyway, when this story broke, I remember my friends and I being freaked out that we most likely may have been at that bar at the same time as Dahmer. Plus, I witnessed many people, PAY money to "tour", the bar in the recent years and was very appalled by it. My roommate and I would take walks by our apartment and just see the people on the tour, excited that they were going to see the inside of that bar! Stupid people! They paid money to tour where he picked up alot of his victims as if they were touring his apartment! Not sure if they still do the tours or not. I moved away 3 years ago. I pray not. Anyway, my point being...I thought I knew almost everything there was to know about what happened. Part of the vigils, seeing the apartment being demolished, etc. That was until I came across your podcast. I saw this gentleman on the news back then, but I want to thank you for having him on your show. I learned alot about Dahmer, but just things in life. This gentleman is a very smart individual. I always wondered if he ever thought why he wasn't a victim himself. Anyway, I really enjoyed your segment. Thank you, Vernell, for clearing up alot of questions, rumors, etc. I am NOT one to even pick up a book and read. I will be buying his book and reading it. First one since high school, I believe! Lol! Thank you for this podcast and thank you, Vernell, for putting some of the "unanswered puzzle pieces " together ❤️
I highly take offense to the comparison of people who were in jail for crimes they committed to the heros who have & still do fight to protect our country!! Prisoners did NOT, absolutely 💯 NOT serve their country. People in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard & National guard the the ONLY ones who have served their country.
Great video! The signs were there when he was a kid and the dad thought he would outgrow it (exploring the inside of dead animals). The worst part is that the parents are divorced (home trouble) and he didn’t fit in school, he got bullied. He had no one in his life, he was lonely. I think if he had a really good friend, it would probably lead him to a different direction.
I'm surprised he doesn't have PTSD after learning who Dahmer really was. Shame a clean nice apartment building like that had to be demolished. It was tainted after that though
I remember one day as a youngsta comin home from school and the whole block had a bad stench in the air, like bad meat sittin in a dumpster in 100+ weather. That smell stayed around for 2 weeks straight. I guess the city got tired of all the calls comin in and finally came to the neighborhood and ended up poppin a trunk open and it was 2 bodies in there. Worst smell I've ever experienced in life so I can only imagine wut it was like inside that apartment
they had all been fooled, all but those 2 black girls... when they first spotted that Asian Boy in such a physically painful state,they tried to help him and they flagged the police, 2 white cops that half assed investigated the issue.they had a crazy argument about that kid,the 2 girls,BLACK was trying to have the cops look at the problem close and get him some immediate medical attendtion and they tuned it out and that is when jeffery appeared...talking about he is boyfriend, he is my lover...And what the cops do, they too were on some racial profiling,they take that kid right back to the house of pain,where jeffery obliterated that child. Those cops should too be held responsible for his death.
I don't live in Milwaukee but I frequently go there. I'm very familiar with the area dahmer lived in. Not sure what the area was like back then. You can definitely feel ghosts in that area. Especially around the ambassador. Hard telling what those old buildings have seen.
Dahmer wasn’t well off. He had a minimal paying decent job and got a place he could afford! He also had a physical attraction to in shape men of color the most. This is why most of his victims were men of color. His own psychologist even said this!
My intention is humanize the REAL people around the Dahmer situation so people can hopefully stop looking at Dahmer as a celebrity and start looking at him for what he is. A real monster who hurt real people and their families!
@@Thegreatlydestinedpodcst yes absolutely. I absolutely hate the glorification of him recently and serial killers in general. You’re awesome for this. Vernell’s a really cool dude
I enjoyed your show, Mr, Bass suggested. I enjoy MR,Bass recall on the story and add more insight to the story of all the why's and how's. he is a good man
Yesterday I dared to check some parts of the Netflix movie, some interviews of him and the statement of the last survivor. These all made me go crazy inside. I regret to watch it tbh, whenever I hear something like these men I'm like something dark evil spirit is coming close to me if I research about them. It's a horrible feeling, it's a dark threat and I still can't understand how can do a person things like that? How can someone kill someone else, control and power over their life, body and soul? How? This is really insanely evil.
I am the only white person living in an all black neighborhood and I can confirm that it is not always as the host portrays. I understand that the host is speaking from his point of view and that’s all he can do, but a white person living in a black neighborhood isn’t left alone because “black people are used to living in a white persons world.” I have people approach me constantly asking why I live in this area and unfortunately, if a negative interaction takes place, it always includes negative words concerning my race. This year I had to move my son from the local school that is two streets away and move him to one that is twenty minutes away, because of how much bullying he received due to his skin color at an all black school. Just like I don’t pretend to know any black person’s experience with racism, I don’t think the host should pretend to know a white persons experience living in a black neighborhood.
I totally agree with what you are saying, but could it be that he was speaking in terms to relative to the experiences of Blacks vs whites and not just one offs? I am unsure if you are from the Milwaukee area but I am. I am Black and I recall attending private Catholic grade school and high school. I have always been considered academically inclined. I had nuns and priests for teachers. I did not know what it was called when I was younger but as I got older I learned what I experienced was sheer racism from the nuns. Some were racists asf. Got a great education though.
I feel you. I'm glad you moved your child and I hope he doesn't grow up to resent us all. 😢 Sorry he had to experience that. I hope you guys can "make it out of the hood" like how many hood people dream of doing.
Bullsht !
I understand! It's 1976... I'm 14 years old living in a prominently white neighborhood. I join a out of town local rifle team. All girls mixed nationalities races. Whatever makes people happy calling different skin colors. I befriend a girl Who happens to be a dark skin girl? Originally her mom was from Jamaica but she's a black American as on my white American Irish polish descent. We quickly become friends... I then meet this new guy, long story short I'm 15 he's 18... I tell him I want to meet. tell him I want him to meet my family. He says to me "but what are they going to say?" I reply " Say about what?" He answers, "that I'm Puerto Rican' I say "what's Puerto Rican?"... We never used these terms growing up... Little did I know that having my parents racing me to believe everybody's equal. They are not preparing me for the evil world outside. Now I love R&B since I was 5 years old, used to play my record player on my friend porch. Now the local roller skating rink is announcing "Soul Night" All three of us are quickly excited to go roller skating that night, listening to our favorite music and groups. My boyfriend drives he's 18. He's Puerto Rican remind you, I'm the Irish white girl & bff dark skinned black girl (Let me mention we are STLL BFF 47 yrs now🩷& PR BF became my husband as we have a 43-year-old son together. Three grandchildren and a great granddaughter ❤)... So we parked the car. All three of us get in line to pay and grab our skates as the musics blasting. We're excited to get in. All of a sudden I don't know where the majority of people there were (African Americans blacks whatever makes people happy and not so sensitive in saying)... Me my best girlfriend and my boyfriend get elbowed out of the place... As we hit the doorway outside, we see we're in trouble. We start running for our car actually running for our lives as we're being chased and we thankfully get in our car as we're pulling away. These teenage kids are jumping on our car banging on our windows. I just wanted to go roller skating!!! Mom and Dad, why didn't you prepare me for this?💔😓... My best friend Who witnessed this and also was frightened for her life to be with me, All three of us were not wanted there... And let me tell you early 80s I would take her to the nightclubs for dominantly white and we would dance all night and she would have drink spot for her. Then again I go to the clubs where she grew up near the projects and we would hang out but little did we know I wasn't welcome at the nightclub as well. The women at her club again elbowed both of us out the door. What an ugly world this can be. We just try to distance ourselves from these awful people and try to keep our own circle of people like us who just love people❤❤️🩹
Boy, I should have proofread before posting as voice. Texting is terrible. No spell check. Sorry and no I'm not dumb. Just careless and my voice texting😂
For Dahmer I feel it wasn’t that he had a Specific hatred against minorities. As the gentleman said.. he was cunning and smart. He chose minority neighborhoods that were under policed and where he would fall under the radar and not be a suspect. Swift, deliberate and cunning.
That’s how I feel too. That’s a good observation
@Jay Pat That’s also a thought you’re right. But it would be poor journalism if I didn’t ask that question and you know that. I ask questions people want to know. Not the ones that make white people remain comfortable!
Whats tge difference exactly?
Well they are not under policed bc when the last almost victim ran outside, police were right there. The problem was that blacks were viewed only as threats and police didn’t view them as people who need protection.
Well considering that he wanted them romantically maybe he was just into black men?
Vernell seems like such a down-to-earth, humble and "matter of factly"- kind of guy, great job interviewing him.
When Vernell said " what did I do? Black men have been Targeted so much.
Yeah to black people.
He'd probably hate me.
Minus the ignorance and rhetoric...
Well, Angela Bass his wife used to smoke crack I'm assuming he might of but she also did an interview documentary
@@gabeguzman9478 how do you know she use to smoke crack?
This interview is done very professionally the other interview he did the host kept talking over him and rushing him in times he was thinking hard about the questions being asked.
I’m a professional journalist. I work for PBS as well. This is my side hustle I hope to expand to the point i can earn a good living from it
@@Thegreatlydestinedpodcst wishing you all the best, you can definitely tell the difference between a real journalist and these so called you tube journalist, I hope you make the life you want from this , . I've subbed and look forward to future content, ...
@@orlalolo4585 wow this made me feel very good! Thanks for the message ❤️❤️
Here goes the black victim hood. Black men are shooting up the black community
Vernell is so believable he just tells it so real . He is the one that you will here this story so close to the truth and accurate .
Dahmer almost got me. The only thing that saved me was 2 things. I had my own money and I was only attracted to street trades. Those are straight men who trade sex for something of value. Dahmer tried to lure me to his apt under the guise of sex or something for money. All those guys who went to his apt was promised something for money including Tracey Edwards who was a street trade. I know that because i had sex with him. He was so drugged out the last time I saw him I just kept driving. Does not look like anything remotely like he looked back then. I still live in Milwaukee. I even met the woman who had called the police on Dahmer when he drilled a hole in the little Loatian kid head and the kid was outside naked and Dahmer convinced the cops they were lovers and he killed the kid as soon as he got him back inside his apt. The cops threatened to arrest the Black lady. Milwaukee was racist asf back then.
@@imhereforitall9218you can't be straight sleeping with men
That's crazy dude @@imhereforitall9218
I really enjoyed listening to Vernell, so insightful! I could understand his viewpoints and relate to the fact it was a very different “time” back then. Thank you for interviewing him.
My pleasure and thank you for watching! ❤️
How was it a different time?
I was born Aug 10 1982 & I remember when we would leave our doors unlocked during the summer times were different indeed. So Jeffrey is a different kind of evil I always found more profoundly evil than Ted Bundy or gacy. Jeffrey is beyond the pale
That he brought all the victims through the back door explains a lot.
Vernell said: 'Dahmer was slick and way ahead of me thinking he knew when I shut that second door I was in in my apartment he stopped cussing behind the door'!😂😂😂
There's nothing sinister about that, the back gate was the closest to his apt. He's not stupid
I’m surprised this video hasn’t blown up! This was a very interesting and amazing listen.
It was a good video, but I'm not surprised it hasn't blown up.
It has blown up
@@bigmiim8584 .00001 % of earth's population has seen it.
"It smell worse then booty!!" lmaooooooo
I just can’t this neighbor that said there was a disgusting smell coming out of his apartment and he never did anything about it what the fuck and now he’s writing a book and making money off it you should’ve cared about what was going on back then now with all these Victims families have to suffer by reading somebody else’s capitalism on what he did to all his victims!
😂😂
😆 i busted out laughing when he said that , spit my drink out
Lol I burst out laughing at that part 😂😂
Yeah that's it...😊
Great Interview! I was 18 years old in 1991 and i vividly recall seeing the The Jeffrey Dahmer news footage on the news and I have been haunted and fascinated by this case ever since. It sent chills down my spine actually being a young gay black man myself.I purchased Mr Vernells book a couple years ago and just browsed thru it and tucked it in my closet and forgot about. But once the Netflix series premiered it sparked my interest in dahmer again so I finally got around to reading the book. Very interesting read. Mr Vernell seems to be a very straight forward man with no ulterior motives but to tell his experience with Jeffrey. Thank you for this interview. You really asked him a lot of questions that I always wondered about. Great Job! Please do more Dahmer interviews if possible. Especially if the victims families are willing to come on your platform✨💫
I'm glad that you we're not one of his victims that's what he targeted the most gay black men. Me being a straight man I wouldn't have been his target but I'm glad it All over. Plus I was too young I was 5 in 91.
@@theoneandonlykyle9800 I wouldn’t have been one of his victims I wasn’t in his city! But as a gay black man it just hit closer to home
@@blkcoverboy1049 oh ok I understand what he did was horrendous.
@@theoneandonlykyle9800 what’s weird tho for me is I am born and raised in Miami and I was a 8 or 9 year old kid and years later we come to find out Jeff Dahmer was actually in Miami Florida during that time and Adam Walsh a six year old boy was kidnapped and decapitated! I honestly think Jeffrey dahmer was the killer of Adam Walsh even tho another man was charged. Too coincidental he was in that SAME area and the child’s head was found.
@@blkcoverboy1049 that is really spooky woah 😨😨
I often wonder why wasn't Jeffrey sick from constantly smelling the deceased and eating their body parts🤔
Because cooking and eating a person isn't far from eating an animal just a different texture and taste. And medical examiners and funeral home ppl constantly smell dead bodies and don't get sick. It's called repetition. He got used to it where it didn't even bother him
Bcause Dahmer bcame accustomed 2 it, thus he developed "immunities!"
I wonder if he ever got a sick stomach. and when he defecate was it normal? Did he ever went to the hospital? Any symptoms
@BrianJohnsonArmwreoh, it bothered him lol. Hence, the alcohol he said himself the worst part was disposal I qoute "it was a waste"
It just like working at a dump facility or working with sewage. Your nose gets used to it and you no longer notice the smell anymore. But if another person smells the smell for the first time then it is going to smell horrible for them.
18:05 “Just imagine living in that apartment building and this white guy knock on your door, talking about he got sandwiches.” 😆😂🤣💀
Eat fresh, fresher than subway
A fascinating testimony. What an absolute indictment of the Milwaukee PD. He was so confident in his actions as he knew his whiteness along with the institutional racism would cloak him. Those poor men deserved more. Such a disgusting evil monster.
I would bet your white person who is young and hasn't had any real life issues.
Absolutely agree 💯
Is there an interview where he says that or is it just your opinion?
He did not have to say it. Unless you lived there during that time and knew the culture you would know that to be more likely than not. I lived there and still live there. Milwaukee had just changed Police chiefs and the previous Chief Brier was openly racist and the police officers under him was just an extension of his behavior. There was always whispers he was connected to the Milwaukee Klan which was very prominent on the south side of Milwaukee where no Blacks lived or dare venture into for fear of being stopped by the cops or attacked by the yt citizens. Dahmer had to have know the power Dahmer dynamics that were in play back then. Fast forward toward, you still have some yt people calling the cops on Blacks and weaponizing the cops to carry out the racism for them. For the most part it does not work for them but when it does work for them and have a just as racist cop that shows up those are only ones that goes viral most of the time. . @@thatrogersmith
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Thanks for the diatribe but my question was for the OP.
Wow, this is an incredible interview! Surprised it doesn’t have a million views!!!! Subscribing!!
Glad you enjoyed it!😂
'white guys wouldnt feel comfortable living with all these black people. " LOL! In my neighborhood all the poor people lived together! Black and white and a few other cultures ! And to be honest we all had fun doing it somehow, right? I look back now and I am so thankful that the town i went to high school in ,was like that! When your young you dont pay attention to that stuff. It took years before i realized that wasn't normal. I eventually moved out to the country and realized the rest of the world was set up a bit differently, sadly.
Same. I grew up in the projects, no one looked at color, no one cared. We all played and got along. And even all the adults got along... Black white, we even had Jahovas Witnesses in our neighborhood click. But my parents got tired of having their car broke in, etc... And worked hard and we also moved out the country, to a fixer upper and I got picked on for a few yrs because of how the house looked at first. But they renovated it and it turned into one of the nicest house on the road. Lol, those country people were far meaner at first than any project people ever was.
@@Em22-wtfYes you are right! When money is tight and everyone is barely getting by, folks are quick to band together and help each other! The beauty of our experience is that we got to see everyone through the eyes of a child, when people were just people, regardless of color. I also moved to a run down house out in the country. People are far more opinionated and hateful . Now I highly value my childhood experience, I have come to realize how blessed I have been in my life!
@@Em22-wtf same
I would never want to live in the projects or ghetto it’s scary and violent so i don’t see why ppl brag about shit like that
@@Em22-wtfBlk people don't look at skin color in Blk white and Latino neighborhoods
We love. Life is just crazy because we're all really family
I thought this was a great interview, you asked the right questions and Vernell seemed very nice and forthcoming with first hand knowledge, awesome stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it! Please subscribe and come again! ❤️
Several times in my life I’ve found myself living in either all hispanic or black buildings/neighborhoods. I never once was scared or bothered. I became apart of the community and got close with many people on the block.
Black people are very welcoming
@@Thegreatlydestinedpodcst
Yes I would agree with you. The black people that I have come across have been really nice.
I am the only black person in my building. My neighbors are nice to me. It was a shocker when they started to see me but so far so good.
I concur
You probably fucked em too
This interviewer is GREAT! Questions, timing, confidence, not over talking interviewee all made this a great interview.
Thank you very much!❤️
Really good interview. Vernell is a wise man.
Dahmer was completely out of control in the end. I believe he wanted to get caught or at the very least he didn’t care anymore. It would have happened very soon if not when it did. He is exactly where he should be. Where all monsters should go…..
Yeah I fully agree 💯
Me too.
He’s dead
the most handsome monster😋😍😍
@@DanielaRay9283 get help
This is just speculation but Dahmer might have been taking shortcuts through other properties on the way to his apartment because he thought someone might find out what block of apartments he lived in if he walked straight into the Oxford Apartments off the street. Dahmer did ask taxi drivers to park a couple of blocks away for example so that no-one could later trace where they dropped Dahmer off if the police investigated the disappearance of the guy he was with. For Dahmer, it was less of a risk to walk through other properties on the way home than to walk directly to his apartment off the street, in case he was being followed by someone who suspected him as the killer (private investigator, family member of a victim or just someone suspicious of him who wanted to know where he lived). Dahmer killed 12 people in 14 months while living in this apartment block - he was not stupid and he had every reason to believe that someone wanted to know where he lived given all these disappearances that someone would have linked to him via witnesses. He also, once the bodycount reached 8 or so, started travelling to Chicago via bus to get his next victim - where he found Weinberger, Turner and Lacy, deliberately so that when they went missing, it was in a much larger city, so it wouldn't look like too long a string of missing people in Milwaukee.
The guy who ended Dahmer's life should have gotten a reduced sentence! At least 1 life!
I concur!
His name is Christopher scarver.
No he shouldn’t of two wrongs don’t make a right it wasn’t he place to kill him that’s the issue with you people
@@queenofnyc5584 Lol! He has like 3 life sentences! Get it? There was no cure for Dahmer! Scarver was the only cure! At least make him feel like he did some justice is all I'm saying. Unfortunately he blew it killing the other guy! He had 1 life sentence for about 1 year or more when he killed them. If he just focused on Dahmer, I am guaranteed it would have gotten dismissed! Dahmer needed to leave this world! Honestly saying, Scarver actually sounds like a str8 up guy that was forced to snap in his first murder! I'm not saying his actions were right but he was pushed to his limit if you read his story. I would have given him 10 years honestly for involuntary manslaughter due to temorary insanity! Parole in 7 years.
No he shouldn’t. Hell no. Dahmer was a person and still deserved life.
The white mist that he is describing he is describing seeing a spirit. I don’t think he realizes that. He saw a spirit in the hallway.
Of course it’s spirits. There’s no telling how much sin was going on in that apartment. I can just feel the negative energy now.
The stench he saw was paranormal activity. The souls of the people he killed died violently and may not have "crossed over". Tracy said Jeffrey watched "exorcist" and went into a "trance" like state. Also the thriller video of the fog in the grave yard and the "occult disclaimer". That stuff is real. The kingdom Hall excommunicated Michael for the video.
Glenda Cleveland did exist I had the pleasure or displeasure if you will to meet her at one of the places I had worked which I will not name. The cops had threatened to arrest her and her niece when they literally saw the little Loatian kid naked in the streets and cops allowed Dahmer to take him back in and literally kill him almost instantly. That is how racist it was back then. We had just got rid of a openly racist police chief Harold Brier but a lot of the cops were still on the force with the same mindsets.
Racism had nothing to do with it dopey.
Why the displeasure of meeting her?
@@TasteTestTitan Because you can sense in her wording and body language she still bore the guilt of feeling she could have done more to save the little boy that in her perception she felt the cops hand him back to Dahmer only to be immediately killed. It was like she was suffering from some type of PTSD.
Vernell corrected the fact that Pamela was Jeff's female neighbour and not Glenda. The only reason why Netflix swapped Pamela for Glenda was cause of her previous drug convictions.. it would change the narrative entirely@@imhereforitall9218
I’m a white female and I love my white folks and I love my black folks. They are both my family and friends!! I embrace our differences! I’m a Christian and I have good friends who are Islamic. Why can’t we all just get along.
Love this champ. Stay blessed x
Yeah, there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON why we can not all get along in life. 17:02
😂 Wishful thinking lady...that thinking will probably be your demise one day too
I don't. Blacks are kewl but whites are weird
Oh shuddup
Thank you for not interrupting him.
Opening the door to the main hallway to air out the apartment does not sound like something a guilty man would do. I believe Mr. Bass is telling the truth about this. I'm just saying that this isn't the behavior of a guilty man. It's the exact OPPOSITE of what a guilty man would do.
Bullshit
This man is a thinker!!! and thinker's always like to take their time to listen and answer you as honestly as they can...This man is worth taking the time to listen to...
Today we are rushed, when it comes to answering a question...I grew up as a child being told take your time ...this way you will get it right the first time around...
Take your time...do not let anyone rush you to answer their questions, especially when you know you are telling the truth....
I have seen this man interviewed before in a show, or documentary. He seems like a man who I would be very cool with being my neighbor, he is a laid back and friendly type cat.
Vernell gave a great interview . It was informative and entertaining.. wonder when he said his wife told things that did not happen to make her story better. Maybe the more she made the story bigger and better the Movie producers PAID HER MORE GIVING HER INCENTIVES..
I BELIEVE VERNELL . HE NEVER TRIED TO HID HIS PAST LEGAL PROBLEMS OR LIKE HIS EX WIFE HE NEVER TRIED TO BETTER HIS STORY.. I HAVE TRIED TO FIND HIS BOOK. I HAVE JUST WATCHED THE VIDEOS THAT WAS PUT OUT WITH MR. BASS. I ALSO JUST FOUND OUT TODAY AGAIN TRYING TO FIND MORE INFO ON HIS BOOK I FOUND OUT THAT HIS BOOK HAD BEEN PUT OUT WAY EARLIER BEFORE..
I WILL KEEP TRYING TO FIND HIS BOOK ..
I have to go back and add that the INTERVIEWER REALLY DID A GOOD JOB RESEARCHING FOR THE RIGHT QUESTIONS TO ASK MR. BASS. MOST INTERVIEWERS JUST MAKE UP QUESTIONS AS THEY GO ALONG AND THE INTERVIEWS JUST BECOMES BORING AND SILLY. BUT YOU COULD TELL THIS HOST READ THE BOOK..SO I WOULD FOLLOW THIS HOSTS PODCASTS AND PLATFORMS..
It's on Amazon.
@@frankG335 yup 20 bucks
Well, it's been said they were both on crack at the time. No telling what was said
The cops failed the one victim they never took him to the hospital to be checked out even if he was drunk you never take someon back who runs out of a apartment from someone
This is the best Podcast yet . Great job Vern
Thank you! Vernell did an a exceptional job. Your view is appreciated
@@Thegreatlydestinedpodcst Greetings from Somalia, I'm planning to buy Vernell's book, great interview
I have not seen the documentary but he is so accurate. That area was not the ghetto, at least it was not back then. I actually was going to move into the building and it was very pristine and well kept. I ended up moving 2 blocks away on 25th & Wells and that was in 1985 and I moved away in 1987 pre-Dahmer.
I enjoyed listening and watching Vernell and his interviewer. I am a white old Australian man, and take people as they are. I always liked America and interested in the cross cultural milieu. Thank you for allowing me into your neighborhood, and best wishes.
Congratulations Vernell Bass on your book. I find it compelling being so close to him. Having a repore with a monster like Dahmer. I've always said you don't know someone by looking at them. In time you'll be amazed!
Hey I am from milwaukee and i lived two blocks south on 25th and wisconsin at the time when Jeff dahmer moved into the Oxford apartments in 1990 and he contacted my father to clean his carpet my father went to his apartment to do a estament after 3 mins of being in this apartment jeff changed his mind about my dad carpet glenda cleveland niece Nicole childress is the one that called 911 when she encountered jeff with konrad glenda cleveland called the police again to do a follow up about konrad when Nicole childress her niece pressed her aunt to do so
That’s so neat! Yeah I’m from Milwaukee too
@@Thegreatlydestinedpodcst hi there I was 3 Years old at the time and that area in the early 90s was dangerous a lot of drive bys and trap houses then in that area of milwaukee
@@Thegreatlydestinedpodcstwhy did u say u new to milwaukee??
I really enjoyed this interview! Pease keep them coming and keep up the great work my brother!
One Question that I hoped you had asked Mr Vernell was in reference to the homeless man who hung out with him for a few days . My question was after all the events unfolded and the victims who were found in his apartment were identified did he recognize any of the men in the photos we now know were victims? Did he see the homeless man in the photos of the victims or did he recognize anyone from the photos we see of the victims. Also my other question was does he think the unsolved murder victim who was found dead in his apartment ( Dean Vaughn) was a victim of Dahmer in hindsight? I ABSOLUTELY believe Dahmer killed Mr Vaughn Thank you
I like how truthful and straightforward Vernell was during his interview.Your a ❤person!!!
“When the stench got comin’ from his apartment, that put all eyes on him.”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This baffled me about the series. Glenda Cleveland not being his next door neighbour is a well known fact. Everything else seems accurate.
They should have included the Basses in the series instead.
Really well interviewed 👌
Good questions covering alot of unknown topics, & got the right person to interview..
I enjoyed this.
When I hear people saying the truth I have to applaud! You got it totally right! Dahmer was kind of off. I do not know know how anyone who had a conversation with Dahmer could help but notice something was just weird about him. Could not put my finger on it. Just something unright about him. Maybe more people around him noticed it and just brushed it off? You noticed this right away and acknowledged it. I cannot believe there are others who were creeped out and stayed away. They all want to say he seemed normal to them but I wonder about the ones who picked up on an eerie vibe and were repelled.
Rita Isbell one of the victims sisters said she noticed it IMMEDIATELY too when they first met.
youre obvs a good judge of character
He wasn’t as weird as he seemed on the Netflix series . He was more outgoing and acted more “Normal “ then most might think. You had to think he was gay and in his younger days didn’t look half bad . He definitely wasn’t as monotone as the show made it seem.
@@krucial88 maybe if you had a conversation with him you'd know what I mean.
Today we all know killed and back than maybe they thought he was odd but nothing like we think today. So I can see people not thinking anything of him in that sense.
This interview and commentary from both of these men is spot on. Good job sir
You Sir area real talent. Fledgling communication majors take note. This is how you interview and engage your audience. Vernell is a wonderful and interesting man.I will be looking for his book.
You can't get it on kindle, but I'm getting the paperback.
I am a new listener, in fact this was my first episode. I’m so impressed by you and your guest. Your guest was a very interesting and inspiring person. I appreciated his candid and very honest opinions and responses. I’m buying the book and subscribing to your channel! Thank you ❤
As soon as Netflix cut that check OL TIME was outta there 😂
Varnell seemed to be a decent person very smart and methodical and this whole situation was very sad and still is, there is no way anyone would ever know that those horrible crimes occurred, and by the way crimes like this happen all the time and in suburbs also, and in the case of the man that kidnapped three people and impregnated one of them NOONE KNEW and that was in the suburbs also.
Well you've watched more of them than me. 🤣
I like that what he said, ..." I regret ... penetrated my kindeness..." I now only trust newborn babies, toddlers, myself and THE DEVINE. Adults an absolutely NO. Adults are tricky, mean and 2 face.
Vernell wrote this book in jail with a pencil stub and scraps of paper. I think that's amazing. I have access to a whole computer and don't do a thing.😩
It's okay since you are hot
Nah the police should of done more investigation on the young man dahmer had… esp if he’s in his underwear outside and non coherent 😢
I fully agree.
Especially since he had been arrested and convicted for a sexual assault crime on the victims brother... Like they could've just searched him up and then they would've known he was a threat!! Get real
So sad he left Milwaukee- He sounds like SUCH a great guy- we need more of them here. Awesome interview!
vernell always keeps it real. hes one of the people i believe the most in the dahmer story
😂😂😂 the fact he took Dahmer being creepy was the Caucasian playing out! This is an amazing interview ❤thanks
Oh and similar to a hoarder ppl CAN absolutely become "nose blind"
As a white man I really appreciate both of your opinions and what you spoke about and I wish nothing but success health and wealth for yourself and your family’s. Very well put together video . God Bless
Thank you so much for that! And thank you for understanding why as a journalist it was needed for me to bring up race, given the majority of his victims were black
Good thing everyone knows your a white man
@@behindyou3689 my comment was for the creator of the video not you and is completely relevant given the subject matter discussed in the video. Obviously no harm in my comment or controversy intent, go touch grass
@@maxmtr5132 I know it's for the creator and it's a good thing that they know that you're a white man
sorry if it sounded like I was making fun of you I wasn't my bad dude.
As an alien I also found it interesting
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Hearing this neighbor of Dahmer's speak on being his neighbor, I can see why Dahmer got away with it, right up under his nose. This guy knew but minded his own business.
I wouldn’t buy his book even if they gave it to me for free he contradicts himself first he says say something if you hear something and then in the end of his interview he says he’ll never say anything he’ll mine his own business and he’ll where is blinders he could’ve save some lives he is so contradicting!
He lost me when he said it was a well kept building. I went into the building right after it happened and it was not well kept to say the least.
@@Everydaybodiess Maybe they didn't care anymore after they found 11 skulls in one apartment 🤔
@@justmee87788 could very well be the reason why
4sure, late night power tool sessions to open holes in a live human's skull, in order to pour acid directly into their brain, to make a zombie robot sexslave, is bound to cause the type of noise that would be alarming in even a literal war zone with bombs dropping and missiles flying
Uzezi, sir, your channel is perfectly named; it is destined for greatness! No doubt this channel is going to blow-up. Wishing you much success and happiness! (subscribed!)
This made me feel incredibly special! ❤️❤️“Greatly Destined” is actually the meaning o my name Uzézi. It’s a Nigerian name! So it was only right I called it “The Greatly Destined Podcast”
Great job no suger coating stright to the point you made him speak him very well with comfort✌️
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have serious respect for this dialogue. Much respect and appreciation for these two men of color. Damn, I just couldn’t believe what those tenants had to deal with (smelling death), and the fact a serial killer lived among them. I’d freak the f out… that shyt was loud bc of neighbors knew who likely it was
Fascinating interview. It's disappointing to hear first-hand from Vernell that the documentary had so many facts wrong. I noticed facts from the televised trial hearings were different in that documentary too. Don't know why documentary makers want to twist the truth so much, doesn't help their credibility.
He sounds like Bill Cosby. Lol. Great interview!!
Vernell has a very strong mind. Becuase if I was to live next to a murder i would need some time to recover.. and dahmer definitely wanted to get caught becuase he didnt want to do it anymore but just didnt know how to stop. He was an undercover maniac, and it was to late for him to start over.
My 1st time watching this channel and kudos to the interviewer and the interviewee 👏👏👏 I couldn't fully watch the Netflix series although I got a small obsession to watching documentaries on him. I was very intrigued by his life and the victims lives as well and it became more interesting because each documentary gave more explanation and/or insight , all in different ways so I always watched them except for the reenactments, idk just wasn't a big fan of that , some but not many. Rip to all the victims and their families as well as the man who survived, especially him because he still has to live with it all etc❣️💪🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Excellent interview 😊 Glad too see that man is safe. Good luck to vernell.
I would love to read Vernall Bass's book, I enjoyed listening to his story on the podcast. He sounds like a fascinating man.
That was an awsome interview. I will be getting his book‼️🙏🙏🙏
There are quite of men that escaped Dahmer's grasp who may never come forward for varying reasons. I am one of them. Commenting on this post is almost therapeutic.
First time watching your podcast great interview
Rest in paradise to all the victims
And peace n success to the living ones
Let’s dispense with the dumb questions and comments.
-Dahmer didn’t have working alarms or security cameras. That was a deterrent for potential problems.
-Dahmer handing out sandwiches was a bunch of BS concocted by Pamela Bass. She was basking in the overnight 15 minutes of fame this story brought. She fabricated it and put a more eerie spin to the events.
-Glenda Cleveland was an across the street neighbor. The Netflix docu series made her into his neighbor from across the hall but in actuality it was Pamela Bass that was the one noticing certain things going on.
There is a Glenda, but she didn't live in the same building. The one in the show is a character mixed with his actual neighbor and Glenda, who called the police in the konerak incident
Really really great interview and wonderful guest. Well conducted, shocked that there aint more views and subs
I know! I wish I did the interview when the Netflix series first came out
@The Greatly Destined Podcast Man I just finished listening, thoroughly enjoyed it. You are great at carrying a conversation and bringing out great bits of knowledge and information from Vernell, who is also an amazingly interesting and well-spoken man. Hope you can keep at this podcast stuff cuz I have no doubt you can make a living doing this kind of work!
I lived in Milwaukee until 3 years ago, and at the time of this horrific incident. For the last 10 years, (when living in Milwaukee), I lived right down, 200 feet from the bar where he met some of his victims. I went at around the same time that Jeffrey Dahmer frequented that bar. No, I'm a straight Caucasian woman, but never actually saw him there, but was with a couple of friends that were gay. Back then, it wasn't a big deal for a straight person to go to a guy bar. Anyway, when this story broke, I remember my friends and I being freaked out that we most likely may have been at that bar at the same time as Dahmer. Plus, I witnessed many people, PAY money to "tour", the bar in the recent years and was very appalled by it. My roommate and I would take walks by our apartment and just see the people on the tour, excited that they were going to see the inside of that bar! Stupid people! They paid money to tour where he picked up alot of his victims as if they were touring his apartment! Not sure if they still do the tours or not. I moved away 3 years ago. I pray not. Anyway, my point being...I thought I knew almost everything there was to know about what happened. Part of the vigils, seeing the apartment being demolished, etc. That was until I came across your podcast.
I saw this gentleman on the news back then, but I want to thank you for having him on your show. I learned alot about Dahmer, but just things in life. This gentleman is a very smart individual. I always wondered if he ever thought why he wasn't a victim himself.
Anyway, I really enjoyed your segment. Thank you, Vernell, for clearing up alot of questions, rumors, etc. I am NOT one to even pick up a book and read. I will be buying his book and reading it. First one since high school, I believe! Lol! Thank you for this podcast and thank you, Vernell, for putting some of the "unanswered puzzle pieces " together ❤️
Great interview!
I gotta buy vernell's book 👍
I highly take offense to the comparison of people who were in jail for crimes they committed to the heros who have & still do fight to protect our country!! Prisoners did NOT, absolutely 💯 NOT serve their country. People in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard & National guard the the ONLY ones who have served their country.
I understand
I agree with this sentiment. My father served his country -Sgt. in the Army ❤I found that disrespectful.
Uzezi is a great interviewer and has the coolest personality. I could hang out with that dude. This is good stuff.
This white guy knocking on doors talking about sandwiches 😅😅😂😂
😂oh lawed
Funny 😂
Great video!
The signs were there when he was a kid and the dad thought he would outgrow it (exploring the inside of dead animals). The worst part is that the parents are divorced (home trouble) and he didn’t fit in school, he got bullied. He had no one in his life, he was lonely. I think if he had a really good friend, it would probably lead him to a different direction.
Definitely gonna have to get his book! Thanks for sharing this interview. Very interesting !
I'm surprised he doesn't have PTSD after learning who Dahmer really was. Shame a clean nice apartment building like that had to be demolished. It was tainted after that though
This is the best interview and very respectful ❤️ I like both of you guys patience
I remember one day as a youngsta comin home from school and the whole block had a bad stench in the air, like bad meat sittin in a dumpster in 100+ weather. That smell stayed around for 2 weeks straight. I guess the city got tired of all the calls comin in and finally came to the neighborhood and ended up poppin a trunk open and it was 2 bodies in there. Worst smell I've ever experienced in life so I can only imagine wut it was like inside that apartment
28 anos depois da morte do Jeffrey Dahmer, é a pessoas ainda continuam falando sobre ele.
Only cause that Netflix show
el programa de tv que salio le dio una nueva vida apesta🫤
@@joshgonzales9203 not true, ppl been talking about Dahmer and other serial killers, y'all need to stop blaming Netflix
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Love how u put time stamps on this thank u
This is A Very Good Interview, AND SUBJECT indeed...........
Thank you so much for your view! Vernell did an amazing job
People have stated over & over thst it was NOT a smell of death. It was a strong chemical smell
He probably used a lot of bleach etc
Anne Quartz said that it smelled like bleach.
they had all been fooled, all but those 2 black girls... when they first spotted that Asian Boy in such a physically painful state,they tried to help him and they flagged the police, 2 white cops that half assed investigated the issue.they had a crazy argument about that kid,the 2 girls,BLACK was trying to have the cops look at the problem close and get him some immediate medical attendtion and they tuned it out and that is when jeffery appeared...talking about he is boyfriend, he is my lover...And what the cops do, they too were on some racial profiling,they take that kid right back to the house of pain,where jeffery obliterated that child. Those cops should too be held responsible for his death.
Ya agree I think one of the cops reassigned afterwords cause I know he works in the county jail well he did
I don't live in Milwaukee but I frequently go there. I'm very familiar with the area dahmer lived in. Not sure what the area was like back then. You can definitely feel ghosts in that area. Especially around the ambassador. Hard telling what those old buildings have seen.
Great interview. Kinda makes me wanna watch the documentary, but I don't like crime stories. This was pleasant to watch
The documentary is so good although some scenes were not true at all.
@@kellycreates3310 it wasn't a documentary, it was a limited series.
@@raineyj560 you’re right. Oops!
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Dahmer wasn’t well off. He had a minimal paying decent job and got a place he could afford! He also had a physical attraction to in shape men of color the most. This is why most of his victims were men of color. His own psychologist even said this!
I think Vernell is a very wise man…but I kind of feel like in the beginning he let a lot of things fly thinking from a “don’t judge” mind frame.
Very good interview. You can see that he’s actually asking questions about Vernell himself more than Dahmer
My intention is humanize the REAL people around the Dahmer situation so people can hopefully stop looking at Dahmer as a celebrity and start looking at him for what he is. A real monster who hurt real people and their families!
@@Thegreatlydestinedpodcst yes absolutely. I absolutely hate the glorification of him recently and serial killers in general. You’re awesome for this. Vernell’s a really cool dude
He is a very friendly, nice man and one of the few who doesn't unnecessarily dramatize the Dahmer case.
I enjoyed your show, Mr, Bass suggested. I enjoy MR,Bass recall on the story and add more insight to the story of all the why's and how's. he is a good man
Thanks so much!!!! Please subscribe for more
I think that the visual stench they saw could have been from the bodies breaking down in the acid barrel he was using
Why can I hear Booker T music entrance within the first 3 minutes of the video?
Whats in the dark will come to the light👌thank you Vern! I wish it never happened for everyone involved🤔
I'd love to read his book, but cant find it anywhere online. Does anyone have a link?
I'm so glad I stumbled across this interview, it's fascinating 😳
Yesterday I dared to check some parts of the Netflix movie, some interviews of him and the statement of the last survivor. These all made me go crazy inside. I regret to watch it tbh, whenever I hear something like these men I'm like something dark evil spirit is coming close to me if I research about them. It's a horrible feeling, it's a dark threat and I still can't understand how can do a person things like that? How can someone kill someone else, control and power over their life, body and soul? How? This is really insanely evil.
Loved this interview with Mr. Vernon. My son and I would love to read the book.