1) As originally shipped on device release day, the internal "storage" setting did not recognize NTFS. It was apparently recognized by file management apps. They fixed it with the first update shipped a week after the initial release and NTFS is recognized by any app and by the built-in storage link under the settings menu system. So it works and works well with NTFS. 2) The "Super Resolution" enhancement works well but needs to be tested well. Partly that's because modern TV's come with their own resolution enhancement (also called "Super Resolution" in my TV) and because 4K TVs are going to upscale every common lower resolution that the streaming device doesn't upscale. I found significant enhancement not just in pixel level resolution upscaling 480p, 720p, 1080p to 4K but the major enhancements were also in the colors/contrast/brightness settings that would work consistently with the best settings of the TV. That undoubtedly depends on the HDR version or not being upsampled. Other 4K streaming devices I have mangle HDR, or other settings of some content requiring tweaking of the TV for individual shows to give best picture. A bit of that occurs in my use with the 3rd Gen Cube but far less (minor tweak of brightness for some reason in some streaming content. Basically the colors overall from the 3rd Gen Cube are more consistently great with minor tweaking or no tweaking of the TV itself. For resolution alone, upscaling 480p content (standard TV) is very much improved with Super Resolution turned on with the 3rd Gen Cube. Again, how you compare is more complicated by the systems viewers on the Internet look at your comparisons than you might imagine. What the comparisons have in the first place are then modified by your viewing streaming device and the TV you're using in addition to what the comparison itself shows in real-time comparing.
@Triple M, the NTFS file system is required if you want to use larger storage or have files over 4 GB, which is the case with many longer videos, like movies or concert videos. The format is more resilient to file system damage as well since it logs all changes to the file/folder structure. Not sure if read/write performance is a real issue; never heard that before.
Is there any way you know of to get an Hdmi signal in to a fire stick? I want to connect a DVD player to a fire stick and am trying to come up with an app that could display a signal through the fire TV, maybe coming from a capture card. I know this is way outside the intended use for a fire stick but I am hopeful it is possible. Thanks for reading.
This is kinda off-topic ,so thanks for any help. Setting up the Cube and making sure i try and get it right. Basic setup is this (1) Suddenlink CB back of Yamaha receiver HDMI 1. (2) Old fire tv flat box HDMI 2 in my Yamaha AV R. The Cube has 2 HDMI ports 1 in 1 out. Heres my first thought about install : Suddenlink CB HDMI in the IN slot of the Cube. FTV Cube HDMI in the OUT slot.Which routes to back of AVR and then im good because its goes straight to TV. Kinda pass thru reroute thing .Ive got a SAMSUNG 70" Class Q60B-Series QLED 4K Smart TV . I said all that to ask this :(1) Is this the right way ?(2) Will i notice a difference on my Cable HD channels using a pass thur on the Cube ? (3) Just do the Cube on its own.Once again thanks for any help.I tend to think -rethink-rethink the rethink-then still get it wrong.LOL🙃🙃
So, if you can’t use exfat or NTFS, What do you do or use to format usb drives that go past the byte boundary so your able to use the whole space available on the drive? Thanks
I’ve just set mine up today and tried an NTFS formatted Samsung T7 drive , to my amazement it worked just fine. So it does read NTFS. Going to try an exFAT drive next. I’ll get back with the results. No luck with exFAT drives, NTFS work fine though and you even get generated thumbnails in the media player.
Can you check you have your output set to 2160p please? I thought I read somewhere maybe it had to be on that rather than Auto but also may be confusing with other articles I read. Thanks for the uploads I have the 2019 fire cube and am interested to see super resolution but no difference can be detected there in my opinion watching on my phone. Basically all the extra cash is for WiFi 6e, a hdmi port with pass through which is still interesting, but no upgrade of ethernet to 1gb is not good and not much more expensive to implement. Wired connections will always be better/more stable. First impressions are super resolution is a gimmick. I see many mention the Nvidia shield and pro. Is there a new version coming out or which one would be best for picture quality? I see many review websites mention the chrome cast as a good device but no mentions of processor/ hardware puts me off. I am happy with the quality of the cube but would like to see a top quality picture if there is much difference. Has anyone used both? I would appreciate if anyone can let me know. Also forgot to add the IR extender and pro remote are not included in the 3rd gen, and all companies now seem to be giving less value for money, cutting back.
I connected a 750GB Toshiba external drive to the fire cube that was formatted FAT32 and it wasn’t recognized. Amazon stated that officially the max that would work is 128GB USB 3.0 drive but others have stated that the max is 2TB (and I’ve seen it work before). The ScanDisk drives are supposedly the best one’s for fire tv devices.
Thank You for this video, NTFS / Exfat support may change the game for this tv box for those market where Nvidia didn't officially sell shield tv pro, but alas may be better luck next time.
@@pedrosa144 what do you believe TripleM did wrong? It's an honest question becase that is a deal breaker for me, and I want to buy to buy this appliance.
Can the Fire TV Cube 3 disable HDR? Netflix looks terrible on my Cube 2 and there is no option to disable it. The Fire 4k Max stick has this option so I assume the cube 3 has it too?
yes u can disable it, idk why they didn't release this update to the Cube 2, cause they do know there's a saturation issue in the Cube 2 so the fix is manually change the resolution to 2160p or 1080p in your display setting
@@cotuisano nah on the cube 2 changing te resolution does not affect HDR, I've tried everything you can think of in the settings and searched multiple hours on the internet for a solution but in the end I gave in and bought the new device and have no problems anymore.
it would be nice to compare the QUALITY of the video image on Cube 2 and Cube 3: 1. PURITY of the image [without dirt and midges] 2. CLARITY of the image [visibility of fine details] 3. COLOR RENDERING [correct colors] .
I think the video was 4k, so there is not upscaling to be done, a correct test would be to test 480p, 720p, and 1080p videos with a side by side comparison, to see how it behaves.
I thought all android devices DO NOT natively support NTFS...although there are ways to support it using 3rd party apps and software or having a rooted device
Upscaling a 1080p image as a demonstration is not such a good idea. Whereas upscaling a 360p or 480p image would give us a good idea of what it can do. Many of the 70's music videos on TH-cam are in 360p at best 480p, this is the sort of material I would want upscaling not already HD quality material. A Nvidia Shield TV Pro vs 2022 Fire Cube comparison video needs producing CONCENTRATING on the upscaling abilities.
People calling it a disappointment (aka it sucks) are totally clueless. Yes, it should have come with a gigabit network port and it should have a USB 3.0/1 port. If you get a USB hub with a gigabit Ethernet port built in, it would support speeds up to about 500 mps. It’s not gigabit speed support, but it’s better than it comes with built in. I’m impressed wit the performance overall though. It’s way faster than my 1st gen fire stick 4K (2018). They should have included the Alexa voice remote pro with it as well.
The 100 MBS ethernet port really isn't a big deal - 4k streaming only needs about 25-30 MBS depending on the service you are streaming from. With the WiFi 6 I am hitting around 600 MBS which is more than what I would need for anything at all. I like the Cube, it is fast, every device has a few Quirks, even the Mighty Shield Pro. I replaced my standard 2020 Shield with the 3rd gen cube and I like it better. It is way faster and doesn't lag at all. A few minor quirks to work out on my end, but I am happy with it.
What was the resolution of the source on the upscaling? Make sure you're trying it with something that's 720p or 1080p to see if it makes a difference. It definitely works great on the Shield and is one feature I don't want to give up. If it works as well I'll probably make the switch.
@@Triple_M I know on my shield depending on the content sometimes it will tell me that the frame rate is unsupported when I try and toggle upscaling on or off, so if it truly looks exactly the same in person that could be the case here. I would definitely try it with more content/different apps and see what kind of results you get.
Holy cow!! What a waste if it doesn't support NTFS!! I have a lot of HD content way bigger than the FAT32 standard handles. This might be a deal breaker.
NTFS drives do work, but they have to be powered externally. The cube's USB 2.0 port cannot deliver enough power, that's why your ssd drives were not recognized. Tested this with my own cube gen 3 and couple of drives - you're welcome.
Only watching on my phone. But I can't tell the difference. Very disappointed with this cube. I have used other Cubes 1&2. $20 more and no new remote, I think one would be better off buying a pro shield 😭🧐
before the on and off button were shown i realized right away that the left side looked clearer and more colorful! and that on youtube thats pretty good looks better in real live then!👍
1) As originally shipped on device release day, the internal "storage" setting did not recognize NTFS. It was apparently recognized by file management apps. They fixed it with the first update shipped a week after the initial release and NTFS is recognized by any app and by the built-in storage link under the settings menu system. So it works and works well with NTFS.
2) The "Super Resolution" enhancement works well but needs to be tested well. Partly that's because modern TV's come with their own resolution enhancement (also called "Super Resolution" in my TV) and because 4K TVs are going to upscale every common lower resolution that the streaming device doesn't upscale.
I found significant enhancement not just in pixel level resolution upscaling 480p, 720p, 1080p to 4K but the major enhancements were also in the colors/contrast/brightness settings that would work consistently with the best settings of the TV. That undoubtedly depends on the HDR version or not being upsampled. Other 4K streaming devices I have mangle HDR, or other settings of some content requiring tweaking of the TV for individual shows to give best picture. A bit of that occurs in my use with the 3rd Gen Cube but far less (minor tweak of brightness for some reason in some streaming content. Basically the colors overall from the 3rd Gen Cube are more consistently great with minor tweaking or no tweaking of the TV itself. For resolution alone, upscaling 480p content (standard TV) is very much improved with Super Resolution turned on with the 3rd Gen Cube.
Again, how you compare is more complicated by the systems viewers on the Internet look at your comparisons than you might imagine. What the comparisons have in the first place are then modified by your viewing streaming device and the TV you're using in addition to what the comparison itself shows in real-time comparing.
@Triple M, the NTFS file system is required if you want to use larger storage or have files over 4 GB, which is the case with many longer videos, like movies or concert videos. The format is more resilient to file system damage as well since it logs all changes to the file/folder structure. Not sure if read/write performance is a real issue; never heard that before.
Can u check the ai upscaling with SD and HD video so we can see the difference
yeah that would be much better
Hi bro. Did you get to do more upscaling comparison especially in low quality content and sport?
How does it do at artifacting and macro blocking in the shadows? My biggest pet peeve with streaming services....especially Amazon.
Is there any way you know of to get an Hdmi signal in to a fire stick? I want to connect a DVD player to a fire stick and am trying to come up with an app that could display a signal through the fire TV, maybe coming from a capture card. I know this is way outside the intended use for a fire stick but I am hopeful it is possible. Thanks for reading.
This is kinda off-topic ,so thanks for any help. Setting up the Cube and making sure i try and get it right. Basic setup is this (1) Suddenlink CB back of Yamaha receiver HDMI 1. (2) Old fire tv flat box HDMI 2 in my Yamaha AV R. The Cube has 2 HDMI ports 1 in 1 out. Heres my first thought about install : Suddenlink CB HDMI in the IN slot of the Cube. FTV Cube HDMI in the OUT slot.Which routes to back of AVR and then im good because its goes straight to TV. Kinda pass thru reroute thing .Ive got a SAMSUNG 70" Class Q60B-Series QLED 4K Smart TV .
I said all that to ask this :(1) Is this the right way ?(2) Will i notice a difference on my Cable HD channels using a pass thur on the Cube ? (3) Just do the Cube on its own.Once again thanks for any help.I tend to think -rethink-rethink the rethink-then still get it wrong.LOL🙃🙃
Hi just got an Amazon fire cube 3rd gen, my portable hdd is NTFS formatted but the cube is not recognising it any tips?
I would like to know if the Xfinty App can run on the new cube without buffering.
Thanks for update. Look to see more new or features
So, if you can’t use exfat or NTFS, What do you do or use to format usb drives that go past the byte boundary so your able to use the whole space available on the drive? Thanks
I’ve just set mine up today and tried an NTFS formatted Samsung T7 drive , to my amazement it worked just fine. So it does read NTFS. Going to try an exFAT drive next. I’ll get back with the results. No luck with exFAT drives, NTFS work fine though and you even get generated thumbnails in the media player.
Can you check you have your output set to 2160p please?
I thought I read somewhere maybe it had to be on that rather than Auto but also may be confusing with other articles I read.
Thanks for the uploads I have the 2019 fire cube and am interested to see super resolution but no difference can be detected there in my opinion watching on my phone.
Basically all the extra cash is for WiFi 6e, a hdmi port with pass through which is still interesting, but no upgrade of ethernet to 1gb is not good and not much more expensive to implement. Wired connections will always be better/more stable. First impressions are super resolution is a gimmick.
I see many mention the Nvidia shield and pro. Is there a new version coming out or which one would be best for picture quality?
I see many review websites mention the chrome cast as a good device but no mentions of processor/ hardware puts me off.
I am happy with the quality of the cube but would like to see a top quality picture if there is much difference. Has anyone used both?
I would appreciate if anyone can let me know.
Also forgot to add the IR extender and pro remote are not included in the 3rd gen, and all companies now seem to be giving less value for money, cutting back.
I can the the better resolution with the Super resolution on, brighter, small detail is more sharp. Question, was the feed 1080P?
I connected a 750GB Toshiba external drive to the fire cube that was formatted FAT32 and it wasn’t recognized. Amazon stated that officially the max that would work is 128GB USB 3.0 drive but others have stated that the max is 2TB (and I’ve seen it work before). The ScanDisk drives are supposedly the best one’s for fire tv devices.
Was the video 1080p or even 720p? I think you miss the point of the test. I'm guessing it was native 4k so there is not upscaling to be done.
It was 1080, but ill do some other tests
Can it play my song playlist on memory stick using the USB port?
Thank You for this video, NTFS / Exfat support may change the game for this tv box for those market where Nvidia didn't officially sell shield tv pro, but alas may be better luck next time.
It does read NTFS formatted external drives, not exFAT though.
@@pedrosa144 what do you believe TripleM did wrong? It's an honest question becase that is a deal breaker for me, and I want to buy to buy this appliance.
@@firstelvys I did reply but it looks like the comment has been removed, don’t know why.
I’m able to use NTFS formatted usb thumb drive on fire tv cube 3.I use VLC player for fire stick to access photos,videos,music etc.
Can the Fire TV Cube 3 disable HDR? Netflix looks terrible on my Cube 2 and there is no option to disable it. The Fire 4k Max stick has this option so I assume the cube 3 has it too?
yes u can disable it, idk why they didn't release this update to the Cube 2, cause they do know there's a saturation issue in the Cube 2 so the fix is manually change the resolution to 2160p or 1080p in your display setting
@@cotuisano nah on the cube 2 changing te resolution does not affect HDR, I've tried everything you can think of in the settings and searched multiple hours on the internet for a solution but in the end I gave in and bought the new device and have no problems anymore.
it would be nice to compare the QUALITY
of the video image on Cube 2 and Cube 3:
1. PURITY of the image [without dirt and midges]
2. CLARITY of the image [visibility of fine details]
3. COLOR RENDERING [correct colors]
.
Would love to see if Upscaling also works on Netflix
Looks like there was some more detail in one of those shots but also the color look better sometimes with it off. Not sure what to think.
I think the video was 4k, so there is not upscaling to be done, a correct test would be to test 480p, 720p, and 1080p videos with a side by side comparison, to see how it behaves.
The video was 1080
Whoch has better 4K upscaling Cube or Shield Pro?
either the test for upscalling is flawed or its just a gimmick lol , the nvidia shield does upscalling very well
I thought all android devices DO NOT natively support NTFS...although there are ways to support it using 3rd party apps and software or having a rooted device
I can't see a difference between on & off
selling gimmick from amazon
I can see it... get a retina display and look close. There is a difference.
Nvidia shield pro still has the best 4k upscaling on the market
Looks like it might just be forcing HDR....maybe...the firestick has a similar feature.
Can I use Alexa with IPTV Service, in other words , how can I use Alexa to control my IPTV Service to open up the Channel I want to see from my IPTV?
Upscaling a 1080p image as a demonstration is not such a good idea. Whereas upscaling a 360p or 480p image would give us a good idea of what it can do.
Many of the 70's music videos on TH-cam are in 360p at best 480p, this is the sort of material I would want upscaling not already HD quality material.
A Nvidia Shield TV Pro vs 2022 Fire Cube comparison video needs producing CONCENTRATING on the upscaling abilities.
Thanxx 4 the video cool .. but No Thanxx , I like my 4K just Fine
I don't SEE how works this súper resolution test work, this video is 1080p...it is not supposed that You have to uploaded in 4k to see difference?
Tweeted you.
Interested in the work of Fire TV Cube 2019 and 2022
WITHOUT TV in standalone INTERNET Radio mode !!!
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Having HDMI arc (2.1 we assume) WHY DOESN'T THE FIRE CUBE Manage the Pwr-On & Pwr -OFF of all Home Theater Components?
Did Amazon every say that it is AI upscale?
Yeah, they call it super resolution but its the same thing
People calling it a disappointment (aka it sucks) are totally clueless. Yes, it should have come with a gigabit network port and it should have a USB 3.0/1 port. If you get a USB hub with a gigabit Ethernet port built in, it would support speeds up to about 500 mps. It’s not gigabit speed support, but it’s better than it comes with built in.
I’m impressed wit the performance overall though. It’s way faster than my 1st gen fire stick 4K (2018).
They should have included the Alexa voice remote pro with it as well.
The 100 MBS ethernet port really isn't a big deal - 4k streaming only needs about 25-30 MBS depending on the service you are streaming from. With the WiFi 6 I am hitting around 600 MBS which is more than what I would need for anything at all. I like the Cube, it is fast, every device has a few Quirks, even the Mighty Shield Pro. I replaced my standard 2020 Shield with the 3rd gen cube and I like it better. It is way faster and doesn't lag at all. A few minor quirks to work out on my end, but I am happy with it.
Ive noticed that external storage performance is absolutely horrible. Apps take forever to load, if at all. It was so bad I just removed it.
That’s because it’s only USB 2
@@pedrosa144 ahh makes sense.
@@MaliceVanRow Amazon are still living in the past and using outdated hardware, they should be ashamed.
@@pedrosa144 the money amazon make and go with USB 2..........ill give a miss mecool km2 plus here we come
😁😁😁👍👍👍
Didn't see any difference, Nvidia shield yes
What was the resolution of the source on the upscaling? Make sure you're trying it with something that's 720p or 1080p to see if it makes a difference.
It definitely works great on the Shield and is one feature I don't want to give up. If it works as well I'll probably make the switch.
Yeah, it's 1080, I'll keep testing though
Absolutely. The picture on my 2019 Shield tube is absolutely stellar. The only device I would upgrade to is the Shield Pro.
No, I didn't see any difference in picture quality. Nice video though.
@@Triple_M I know on my shield depending on the content sometimes it will tell me that the frame rate is unsupported when I try and toggle upscaling on or off, so if it truly looks exactly the same in person that could be the case here. I would definitely try it with more content/different apps and see what kind of results you get.
👍🏾👊🏾✊🏾🙂💯
fat32 is a bad joke. that's why we can't find any information about the usb-a. My cube will return to sender.
Holy cow!! What a waste if it doesn't support NTFS!! I have a lot of HD content way bigger than the FAT32 standard handles. This might be a deal breaker.
NTFS Works on this cube,I use VLC player for fire tv stick to access content on my 256gb Samsung NTFS formatted usb thumb drive
@@wilfredohernandez2257 ever tried exfat?
@@Saturnaa no,my files are to big for exfat.
NTFS drives do work, but they have to be powered externally. The cube's USB 2.0 port cannot deliver enough power, that's why your ssd drives were not recognized.
Tested this with my own cube gen 3 and couple of drives - you're welcome.
I’m trying with a mx500 2 tb externally powered but it’s telling me to reformat. Can you give us a tutorial please
Thanks for sharing brother. Much appreciated. Keep the content coming. Hope you have an incredible night. Much love and RESPECT
super resolution= looks the bloody same !!
I can’t see NO DIFFERENCE i the comprison betweenon or off comparison
Me either but I'll keep testing
Only watching on my phone. But I can't tell the difference. Very disappointed with this cube. I have used other Cubes 1&2. $20 more and no new remote, I think one would be better off buying a pro shield 😭🧐
Nahh Nvidia Shield TV Pro thanks to his Tegra 1+ better ai upscaling
You do know that you tegra 1+ and the tegra 1 are the same chip. The tegra 1+ only difference is the software overclocking it uses
@@TheBman3rd letting the fan boys have it ! LMAO
Looks the same to me!
Lol me too. I'll keep testing this though
My cube recognizes NTFS.....lol
I purchased the Fire Cube 3 and it sealed my decision to NEVER buy another Amazon device... tablet, Fire TV, or Echo. They all suck!
Why do you say that?
I'll admit my eyes are not perfect. So I didn't see any difference to get excited about.
before the on and off button were shown i realized right away that the left side looked clearer and more colorful! and that on youtube thats pretty good looks better in real live then!👍
An embarrassment upgrade
Nothing is really upgraded apart from looks and a speedier processor, everything else is the same. Oh wait an outdated Ethernet port, big deal.
The max stick does wonder if you don’t need the speaker
i did'nt see any difference sounds like a selling point thats just B.S.