I was waiting for another person to show the pulley crossbow sleep technique for countering shields. It feels great using an off meta weapon to hard counter a cancerous meta setup.
@@Krystalmyth 99 sleep bolts is plenty for even an invasion. Its the same concept as FP, you have a limited amount per duel / invasion so you have to manage your resources. The only difference is you have to craft more of them when you run out. You don't have to always use Sleep bolts, bleed bolts are much easier to make and explosive bolts are also really powerful.
This isnt off meta. That crossbow ith sleeping bolts is 1/5 guys i encounter ans they just spam it endlessly and run away. Very fun -.- And seppuku is just disgusting. I'm ok if you use it on turtles, but im not gonna lower myself to that, i need a normal way to compete with them
I've faced all the broken metas in this game but none more annoying and unskilled than the fingerprint poke players and the carian retaliation glintstone rock combo players. Thanks for this. The crossbow strategy looks hilarious...time for testing lol
Yes that’s literally all I was running into today and afk farmers. Kinda upset I leveled up more because I wasn’t running into nearly as many of these shields 50 lvls ago 😩
Idk what the fuck people are talking about saying this is effective. In what world is your opponent going to just LET you hit them with the crossbow. Anything that isn't absolutely point blank is going to get calmly sidestepped. I've literally never been hit by a bow or crossbow that I didn't just ALLOW to hit me. Against any player that is living, the crossbow won't work, and even against some players who died as the summoned in there is a chance they fall onto their controller and sidestep your crossbow.
Yeah I agree there are a lot better counters imo, once someone pulls out the crossbow they’ve shown there hand and like buddy said all those are getting side stepped. A better counter would be the unblockable weapons such as the coded swords and other unblockable weapons
I usually use nagakiba with piercing fang(so just default nagakiba but i put it keen) and i destroy shield pokers, the ash of war can deal up to 1k dmg (depending on armor), has alot of range and is unblockable plus its super fast coming out and very low recovery time.
This is really a funny and effective way to counter shield turtles 😂 also there is the ash of war of the nagakiba katana you can put it on claymore to do massive damage its unblockable attack try it next time, amazing video habibi 😘0
curious what ash of war that is. Looking to get all these unblocksble things I can cuz these shields are everywhere 😩. I’ll have to check when I get home
@@greattalal5425 ok ya I found it last night. Thank you it’s been very fun! Wasn’t sure why but it was even one shotting Some people. Wasn’t sure if it’s the power up from bleed but seemed to be around double dmg from what it was doin on others but I’ll take it. Invading 2 people doing the one shot exploit then getting them with one of those felt good 😂😂
Ambush Shard is great for any Int-Hybrid builds dealing with this, and Coded Sword is also a nice back-up for Faith users as well.... though the FUNNIEST counter to these people is Endure/Lead Physic and Inescapable Frenzy. I mean, it'll only hit like 1/10th of the time but when you DO hit it, you feel like a god damn god.
pots and perfumes are also helpful. thankfully turtling players are very inflexible against status effects. Also, cant deny spellcasters are very hard counter to shields; and vyke's spear deteriorates them.
Man thank you, i was thinking something with sleep but i didn't now there was a rapid fire crossbow in the game, this will be in my set now, for those "player" who duel people with this.
This is great for the lone duelists, or the conceited "survivalists". Unfortunately, it will be less effective when the host is turtling behind fingerprint shield while his two buddies are spamming magic and and madness attacks. Or God forbid, three turtles at once. It's good to see emerging stratagems, even if the next solution needs to be a nerf to shields and a buff to shield breakers.
Do you not realize that a 3v1 was never supposed to be fair in the first place? You can't expect them to nerf everything that performs well in a 3v1 scenario because almost everything does. I'm all for balancing stuff for 1v1 as i can see why people want a balnced pvp experience. An invasion was never meant to be fair in the first place.
@@flotto7045 There's a whole world of difference between invasions being naturally unfair (which I am ok with), and compounding that natural unfairness by collecting as many glitches and exploits as possible to grief other players and render the possibilities of fun close to zero. This isn't a simple "wah it's unfair", this is more "wow, they are just stacking exploit after exploit to basically monopolize the fun".
@@MerkinMuffly That's factually incorrect. Tons of people like playing as invaders, myself included, and are saddened by how imbalanced the PvP scene is. The players who blaze through this game once and then never touch it again (as in the case of casual players) will not care, of course, but the players who want to stick around and enjoy the PvP for at least a year or more will have to wait patiently for the patches to roll out and start making the game more balanced.
@@MerkinMuffly well from soft invented invasions and have kept them in the game thus far, so I'd say Miyazaki and the team care, and they are all that matters really.
The crossbow only counters bad players good players will generally be up in your face and rush you down and force trades and even rollcatch you + sidestrafing until you run out of bolts is also a option especially against the triple shot crossbow
I run a turtle 🐢 build Bull-Goat armor finger print shield and great lance with poison and I guarantee these counters work but these counters can also be countered I’ve run into all of them but it depends on the turtle your fighting sine it’s not common to run it these counters most don’t know how to fight against it
I was waiting for another person to show the pulley crossbow sleep technique for countering shields. It feels great using an off meta weapon to hard counter a cancerous meta setup.
Wont you run iut of st trinas eventually, it doesnt grow back right
@@BikerMiceOne Cleanrot knights drop them. If you put on max Discovery they can be decently frequent
@@nopenope2461 Yeah but you can only carry so much per session even if you have 999 of them.
@@Krystalmyth 99 sleep bolts is plenty for even an invasion. Its the same concept as FP, you have a limited amount per duel / invasion so you have to manage your resources. The only difference is you have to craft more of them when you run out. You don't have to always use Sleep bolts, bleed bolts are much easier to make and explosive bolts are also really powerful.
This isnt off meta. That crossbow ith sleeping bolts is 1/5 guys i encounter ans they just spam it endlessly and run away. Very fun -.- And seppuku is just disgusting. I'm ok if you use it on turtles, but im not gonna lower myself to that, i need a normal way to compete with them
I've faced all the broken metas in this game but none more annoying and unskilled than the fingerprint poke players and the carian retaliation glintstone rock combo players. Thanks for this. The crossbow strategy looks hilarious...time for testing lol
Yes that’s literally all I was running into today and afk farmers. Kinda upset I leveled up more because I wasn’t running into nearly as many of these shields 50 lvls ago 😩
Nice video man! I'm happy people are finding counters to this . Was super fun making the videos together
I had fun too friend ❤️🌹
Finally a solution to turtles, genius idea haha, credits to both of you!
I’m glad someone out there still use crossbow+straight sword set up
Idk what the fuck people are talking about saying this is effective. In what world is your opponent going to just LET you hit them with the crossbow. Anything that isn't absolutely point blank is going to get calmly sidestepped. I've literally never been hit by a bow or crossbow that I didn't just ALLOW to hit me. Against any player that is living, the crossbow won't work, and even against some players who died as the summoned in there is a chance they fall onto their controller and sidestep your crossbow.
You need to whiff and get good
Yeah I agree there are a lot better counters imo, once someone pulls out the crossbow they’ve shown there hand and like buddy said all those are getting side stepped. A better counter would be the unblockable weapons such as the coded swords and other unblockable weapons
I usually use nagakiba with piercing fang(so just default nagakiba but i put it keen) and i destroy shield pokers, the ash of war can deal up to 1k dmg (depending on armor), has alot of range and is unblockable plus its super fast coming out and very low recovery time.
Very nice , I will be testing this out, liked and subbed 👍💙
This is really a funny and effective way to counter shield turtles 😂 also there is the ash of war of the nagakiba katana you can put it on claymore to do massive damage its unblockable attack try it next time, amazing video habibi 😘0
curious what ash of war that is. Looking to get all these unblocksble things I can cuz these shields are everywhere 😩. I’ll have to check when I get home
@@B-Str0 its called piercing fang 👍
@@greattalal5425 ok ya I found it last night. Thank you it’s been very fun! Wasn’t sure why but it was even one shotting Some people. Wasn’t sure if it’s the power up from bleed but seemed to be around double dmg from what it was doin on others but I’ll take it. Invading 2 people doing the one shot exploit then getting them with one of those felt good 😂😂
Left a like and sub,thanks for the advice mate. GGs
Great video man! manny creative solutions in this one.
Thank you for helping me make it ❤️
Ambush Shard is great for any Int-Hybrid builds dealing with this, and Coded Sword is also a nice back-up for Faith users as well.... though the FUNNIEST counter to these people is Endure/Lead Physic and Inescapable Frenzy. I mean, it'll only hit like 1/10th of the time but when you DO hit it, you feel like a god damn god.
pots and perfumes are also helpful. thankfully turtling players are very inflexible against status effects.
Also, cant deny spellcasters are very hard counter to shields; and vyke's spear deteriorates them.
I normally use heavy armor but with dragonbolt blessing their spear usually bounces off me and I can trade with them, that crossbow seems way safer
This works very well too
Man thank you, i was thinking something with sleep but i didn't now there was a rapid fire crossbow in the game, this will be in my set now, for those "player" who duel people with this.
it comes down to status effect being more OP. Now i am w8ting for a video to counter bleed and other status effect.
Immutable shield
thank you seif this is might be the meta to counter it
No prob
Coded sword has the ash of war "unblockable blade" self explanatory
Time for me to upgrade that crossbow
This is great for the lone duelists, or the conceited "survivalists". Unfortunately, it will be less effective when the host is turtling behind fingerprint shield while his two buddies are spamming magic and and madness attacks. Or God forbid, three turtles at once. It's good to see emerging stratagems, even if the next solution needs to be a nerf to shields and a buff to shield breakers.
Do you not realize that a 3v1 was never supposed to be fair in the first place? You can't expect them to nerf everything that performs well in a 3v1 scenario because almost everything does. I'm all for balancing stuff for 1v1 as i can see why people want a balnced pvp experience. An invasion was never meant to be fair in the first place.
@@flotto7045 There's a whole world of difference between invasions being naturally unfair (which I am ok with), and compounding that natural unfairness by collecting as many glitches and exploits as possible to grief other players and render the possibilities of fun close to zero. This isn't a simple "wah it's unfair", this is more "wow, they are just stacking exploit after exploit to basically monopolize the fun".
You realize no one's going to shed a tear for invaders, right?
@@MerkinMuffly That's factually incorrect. Tons of people like playing as invaders, myself included, and are saddened by how imbalanced the PvP scene is. The players who blaze through this game once and then never touch it again (as in the case of casual players) will not care, of course, but the players who want to stick around and enjoy the PvP for at least a year or more will have to wait patiently for the patches to roll out and start making the game more balanced.
@@MerkinMuffly well from soft invented invasions and have kept them in the game thus far, so I'd say Miyazaki and the team care, and they are all that matters really.
It took me more than 20 shots.
They now have shield buff and bloodhound step.. so hard to hit..
Now do it in a real dual with someone using Vyke’s spear and fingerprint :/
Not to say the video wasn’t amazing, but it would’ve been better if it includes clips of that
You mean me? Also it’s a BLOOD fingerprint
Yesterday I killed one laggard with a shield for 40 min
thanks for the advice
🙏❤️
whats the armor set?
Crossbow now have some cool versatilities ) and also can you tale me what the song its? tnx
This is one of my favorites songs of all time I will use it more often
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@@sinfulSeif tnx, its realy cool one
This Can just be sidestepped or bh stepped easily. But If u space their shield poke with a sleep weapon it kinda works
You whiff punish with it
for the giant hunt is it enough time to get a riposte out of the animation?
Yes and I will appreciate ur sub btw haha
Nice vid I wanted a counter to that
what da dog doin
the Frenzied Burst goes through the shield just stun lock them
nice
Thank you I appreciate you here
The crossbow only counters bad players good players will generally be up in your face and rush you down and force trades and even rollcatch you + sidestrafing until you run out of bolts is also a option especially against the triple shot crossbow
You're using cancer against cancer... Are there any counters that dont involve status buildups?
Powerful
It's all fun and games until someone actually plays the setup well
Hell yeah 😁
I run a turtle 🐢 build Bull-Goat armor finger print shield and great lance with poison and I guarantee these counters work but these counters can also be countered I’ve run into all of them but it depends on the turtle your fighting sine it’s not common to run it these counters most don’t know how to fight against it
So you're afraid to lose?
Lmao fingerprint shield builds are for pussies