Kiran Patel indeed. I love the pdk technology on my gt3 . We live in a strange time now when old tech is constantly glorified by so called enthusiastic drivers. I drive an m235i daily with a great modern inline 6 turbo engine, but the bmw Manual transmission on it sucks and doesn’t work efficiently with the engine. At the time most reviews said how engaging the manual was. Wish I had the Z8 auto transmission.
skrads ,Hey i drive a m135 manual What do you mean with the manual dosnt work efficiently? My 2nd car is a honda integra type r and that transmission is more engaging and feels more mechanic than the bmw one. It really kliks into gear and it let you really slam it into gear. Where when you try to shift verry fast with the m135 its like it holds you up.it needs more time to klik into gear.... Maybe a aem quick-shifter would be a good upgrade...
RUE5 EK4 what you described is exactly what I mean by inefficient use of the engine especially going from second to third, the gear never clicks in place quickly. Your older integra is far superior in that department.
07:55 I thought Mat was going to compliment the gt3 but he complemented the sound of his own car, I guess when you work so hard on something you have to appreciate it.
That was an epic video. Well done and Thank you... quick note on the manual. The gearbox on this new GT3 allows for a No-Lift shifts, so you could have kept your right foot planted to the gas pedal while shifting up or down with or without sport bottom selected. This allows you to perform perfect shifts at or near 9000 rpm. As you press the clutch pedals near 9000 RPM redline, the car will hold the rpm electronically and won’t allow engine to over-rev, even when your right foot on gas peddle is buried fully to the floor, reducing your shift times significantly and also allowing you to execute PDK-Like shifts in this manual car every time. It feels counterintuitive at the Beginning, but you get used to it quickly and It is soooooo addictive and makes you look like a pro. Should try that next time you drive another manual. Again great video, please keep them coming. Mark
Been waiting for this video haha. Great man. You're the first person i heard to compare .2 manual to gt4. You said its way better than gt4 which is what i wanted to know.
drepop803 I’ve been on the fence about this for a while.... I’m on my second cayman, but the next car is a GT car for sure... but I still go back and forth on gt4 or gt3? Haven’t driven a gt4 but the several 3s. Ugh! Cross that bridge when I get there
Im in the same kind of boat , pdk is amazing and faster but manual still gives me some kind of more involvment to me. Always doubting what i should buy in my next car. Automatic is also so handy on chill drives.
Great video, you are so lucky in the US to have these amazing and such quiet roads, here in the UK it is hard to find reads without traffic to hold you up.
while im sure with the broad torque band of a tuned twin turbo flat six your GTS is probably quicker than most NA GT3's do you wish you would of went with a GT3??
@@gtperfection1596 not for one second. I test drove a 991.1 gt3 and it felt soulless unless you were between 6500 and 9000 rpms. I bought a 7 speed manual 2017 gts and did cobb tune, kline headers, agency power cat back, catless downpipes, ipd plenum, bmc filters, ams innercoolers, tpc racing dsc controller, techart springs, and numeric racing shifter/cables. It dynos 500whp and 500tq on a stage 1 tune. The beauty is I have nearly all that tq by 3000 rpms where a gt3 doesnt get near that level until 7000ish rpms. For me it was a no brainer. In my opinion the only thing a gt3 has on me now performance wise (on track) and that na scream (which ofcourse is subjective) I love 911 gt cars, a gt3 just wasnt the car for me....
991.2 GT3 with the manual is perfection with that 4.0! I know its easy for me to say as I'm not in your shoes, but I would sell the RS and get a .2 GT3 manual.
Unless the RS is manual, I would stick with the manual GT3. Certainly not faster than RS, but definitely much more fun. Let’s face it unless you are track junky or trying to set lap record, the manual will always put a smile on your face. I was blessed to own all of them including GT4, 991.2 GT3 manual, 981 Spyder, 991.2 GT3 RS and GT2 RS on the way, and few other toys, and I can tell you if I have to keep only one car, it would be GT3 manual or the 2016 Spyder. These 2 put the biggest smile on my face everyday. Mark
Manual is way more fun. RS was super boring to me. If you suck at manual, like the guy in the video, of course he'll go to a RS. Manual is for good drivers and people who love experiencing all aspects of driving a machine like this.
Matt, you don’t have to lift off you foot from the throttle when you change gear in the manual, I believe it’s called speed shift. Thanks for the great video. /Janko
I love manual. Makes me wonder if I'd get a GT3 in manual or with the PDK. The dual clutch in the Porsche's just seem too good. And the sounds it makes during upshifts. :)
Matt it cracks me up how closely at certain RPMs my Subaru 3.6 R six sounds The same, same basic sound is there being that it’s a flat six. The other day I took a coworker for ride that had several Porsches and he was cracking up because my engine is obviously in the front, but apparently my engine sounds exactly like a 76 2.8 liter Porsche lol
I feel like having a 911 Touring and RS would be to similar and given the choice you'd most likely take the RS. Where as having an RS or GT3 Manual wit something like an E92 gives you the best of both worlds.
Matt, do you prefer the mid engine handling characteristics of the Cayman GT4 over the 991.2 GT3's? I'm sure one of the reasons why you prefer the GT3 over the GT4 is because of the sound from the 9000rpm engine.
The GT4 certainly feels more balanced and precise and it is clear that it is the superior platform when behind the wheel. But the culmination of all of the parts and character in the GT3 RS make it my choice.
Matt when u say perfect combo with Touring and downgrade exhaust ... would the car u r driving w Sharkwerks and valves unplugged be ideal? Or would Dundon Street be better for that?
Hey, im in the market for my 991.2 GT3, I owned a 991 PDK but now wondering if I should get the 991.2 GT3 Manual or 2016 GT3 RS ? I have not driven the GT3 RS but since you own one, can you give me your opinion? 2016 GT3 RS PDK or 2018 GT3 Manual?
Yeah I feel same way about exhaust. It seems like gt4 had more cracking and popping noise than gt3. Miss that sound. Nice backroad. Where? I agreed like to see 50th anniversary edition cloth seat and back seat with GT3 touring body and engine and manual. I would swap my gt3 at heart beat. ;)
Your RS sounds fantastic Matt. Nice. 👍🏻 Intrigued to hear some final thoughts on all the cars at the end. Especially as someone who has a 991.1 C2S manual. Don’t have the $$ for a new GT3 but contemplating a 991.2 GT3 manual in a few years when the prices get to $150k. My head says a 991.2 GTS is much better since we have such garbage driving roads in Houston but my heart says wait and buy the used .2 GT3 since it could be the last of the breed. Im also not a fan of the 992 judging by RL intel and spy shots. Looking forward to your wrap up. 👍🏻
@@ObsessedGarage on this particular video you seemed at Least to me that it was a night and day difference, what do you recommend then I do to mine to give it the Xtra horsepower, in Miami, thanks I really appreciate your input
Obsessed Garage good to know as still undecided on exhaust mod for my GT3T, this or the SW ... I do not have an RS so this is my early morning weekend twisty roads and DE day car ... not looking for comfort, practical or daily beater in this but special the same way u feel about your RS ... the weight saving will help move closer to 911R ethos with my AM lithium battery,PCCB’s ,LWB’s so Dundon might get me par on weight with slightly more power ... as u tested both I trust and value your opinions? Cheers
Hey Matt, if you were in a situation where you were buying a gt3 for the first time. Out of .1GT3RS vs .2GT3 which would you choose? Taking into consideration both are going to be PDK and both similarly priced? I just feel the .2gt3 with the updated 4.0 revving to 9K would appeal to me more considering im not a track fiend?
For a 991 gen, no matter a gt3 or a rs, i am taking the pdk over the mt anyday. Car is just getting too powerful and not really suitable for a manual anymore. True it is more "engaging" (even with all the computerized driving aids, auto rev match and such) and rolling through gears are fun, but money shifts are not. I get more pleasure rolling through gears on my '80 911sc with weber46ida and my 964 c2. As much as I love the manual transmission, the latest gt car I would go with one would be a 997 gen, true analog. Having said that, a gt4 would be a perfect of both world as a modern Porsche. Just my $0.02.
Solution....if you want the out and out quickest car you choose the PDK, if you want more driver engagement and involvement and overall more fun you get the manual simple. I wouldn't choose any sports car without a proper manual transmission that's what a sports car is all about, it's about having fun it's about driver engagement it's about driver's skill, any grandma and her friends from the nursing home can drive a Porsche GT3 or GT3 RS or GT2, but none of them would even attempt a Porsche with a manual transmission. It's just really too bad the gearing is so tall in the GT3 I'd much rather have shorter gears and have to row through the gears and have more fun but it is what it is. Bottom line....speed vs fun, I know what I'd always choose....... the manual. Let's just all hope that Porsche continues to give us naturally aspirated gt3rs with manual transmissions let's hope they don't go hybrid or electric on us.
Why does everyone rave about how good the manual car is rather than the pdk but then use auto rev match for downshifts?..... Whats the point? PDK is far better to live with if you are a serious driver rather than a poseur.
Manual any day of the week. I'll sacrifice the 1/2 second difference in acceleration for a more involving experience.
Pull both pdk paddles simultaneously and you can rev it whenever you want. Your RS sounds great.
skrads That's what so cool about Porsche they offer a dual clutch which actually lets you treat it like a manual!
Kiran Patel indeed. I love the pdk technology on my gt3 . We live in a strange time now when old tech is constantly glorified by so called enthusiastic drivers. I drive an m235i daily with a great modern inline 6 turbo engine, but the bmw Manual transmission on it sucks and doesn’t work efficiently with the engine. At the time most reviews said how engaging the manual was. Wish I had the Z8 auto transmission.
@@skrads Yeah it seems a lot of newer cars are designer around the autos.
skrads ,Hey i drive a m135 manual
What do you mean with the manual dosnt work efficiently?
My 2nd car is a honda integra type r and that transmission is more engaging and feels more mechanic than the bmw one.
It really kliks into gear and it let you really slam it into gear.
Where when you try to shift verry fast with the m135 its like it holds you up.it needs more time to klik into gear....
Maybe a aem quick-shifter would be a good upgrade...
RUE5 EK4 what you described is exactly what I mean by inefficient use of the engine especially going from second to third, the gear never clicks in place quickly. Your older integra is far superior in that department.
Those downshifts sound absolutely brutal. Both cars look and sound fantastic.
07:55 I thought Mat was going to compliment the gt3 but he complemented the sound of his own car, I guess when you work so hard on something you have to appreciate it.
I watched this video last year and just watched it again as I'm itching for a manual fix. Great job Matt. So fun.
Love the manual transmission. You might get there 2 seconds quicker but I want to row my gears for the fun and involvement.
That was an epic video. Well done and Thank you... quick note on the manual. The gearbox on this new GT3 allows for a No-Lift shifts, so you could have kept your right foot planted to the gas pedal while shifting up or down with or without sport bottom selected. This allows you to perform perfect shifts at or near 9000 rpm. As you press the clutch pedals near 9000 RPM redline, the car will hold the rpm electronically and won’t allow engine to over-rev, even when your right foot on gas peddle is buried fully to the floor, reducing your shift times significantly and also allowing you to execute PDK-Like shifts in this manual car every time. It feels counterintuitive at the Beginning, but you get used to it quickly and It is soooooo addictive and makes you look like a pro. Should try that next time you drive another manual. Again great video, please keep them coming. Mark
Great info.
The high pitched whine of the white car at 8:58. Wow.
Been waiting for this video haha. Great man. You're the first person i heard to compare .2 manual to gt4. You said its way better than gt4 which is what i wanted to know.
drepop803 I’ve been on the fence about this for a while.... I’m on my second cayman, but the next car is a GT car for sure... but I still go back and forth on gt4 or gt3? Haven’t driven a gt4 but the several 3s. Ugh! Cross that bridge when I get there
@@NoRevving haha must be great to be in that position
That ultra violet is so beautiful. One day I will own a GT3 RS in ultra violet.
The exhaust sound on your rs is spine tingling
Im in the same kind of boat , pdk is amazing and faster but manual still gives me some kind of more involvment to me. Always doubting what i should buy in my next car. Automatic is also so handy on chill drives.
Manual > PDK
Imagine a automatic and manual hybrid!
@@jeyhuan9194 sequential gearbox
Great video, you are so lucky in the US to have these amazing and such quiet roads, here in the UK it is hard to find reads without traffic to hold you up.
Hey Matt, I dont live too far from you. We should meet up and you can race/drive my cobb tuned 991.2 gts ;)
while im sure with the broad torque band of a tuned twin turbo flat six your GTS is probably quicker than most NA GT3's do you wish you would of went with a GT3??
@@gtperfection1596 not for one second. I test drove a 991.1 gt3 and it felt soulless unless you were between 6500 and 9000 rpms. I bought a 7 speed manual 2017 gts and did cobb tune, kline headers, agency power cat back, catless downpipes, ipd plenum, bmc filters, ams innercoolers, tpc racing dsc controller, techart springs, and numeric racing shifter/cables. It dynos 500whp and 500tq on a stage 1 tune. The beauty is I have nearly all that tq by 3000 rpms where a gt3 doesnt get near that level until 7000ish rpms. For me it was a no brainer. In my opinion the only thing a gt3 has on me now performance wise (on track) and that na scream (which ofcourse is subjective) I love 911 gt cars, a gt3 just wasnt the car for me....
I meant only thing it has on me now (on track) is handling and that awesome na scream.
John Adams that’s some serious work you did. Sounds like a fun car
You seem so uncomfortable with the manual so mechanical smh loosen up my friend need plenty of practice. Get with it.
991.2 GT3 with the manual is perfection with that 4.0! I know its easy for me to say as I'm not in your shoes, but I would sell the RS and get a .2 GT3 manual.
The RS wins that for pretty much everyone. The guys that had an RS, the got a GT3 manual, will likely all end up in an RS again.
RS is RS. 😉
Unless the RS is manual, I would stick with the manual GT3. Certainly not faster than RS, but definitely much more fun. Let’s face it unless you are track junky or trying to set lap record, the manual will always put a smile on your face. I was blessed to own all of them including GT4, 991.2 GT3 manual, 981 Spyder, 991.2 GT3 RS and GT2 RS on the way, and few other toys, and I can tell you if I have to keep only one car, it would be GT3 manual or the 2016 Spyder. These 2 put the biggest smile on my face everyday. Mark
@@ObsessedGarage stick to RS because your driving with the manual sucks..
Manual is way more fun. RS was super boring to me. If you suck at manual, like the guy in the video, of course he'll go to a RS. Manual is for good drivers and people who love experiencing all aspects of driving a machine like this.
Matt, you don’t have to lift off you foot from the throttle when you change gear in the manual, I believe it’s called speed shift.
Thanks for the great video. /Janko
Janko Lind it works well ... weird at first but awesome when on full throttle !!
Great that you tried. Intense isn't it? I actually made a video explaining my experience with my manual 991.2 GT3 on a Track Day.
Great video Matt ... look forward to the Touring
I have to say, your car's sound stole the show here lol, wow!
Matt your right the 991.2 GT3's 4L Cup engine has it's peak torque 200 rpm lower when compared to the 991.1 GT3 RS's 4L.
As much as I love the RS, for me, the 991.2 manual GT3. I have to say your car sounds fn amazing.
I love manual. Makes me wonder if I'd get a GT3 in manual or with the PDK. The dual clutch in the Porsche's just seem too good. And the sounds it makes during upshifts. :)
NA engine and PDK sounds so exotic, just crank off shifts and the engine pitch changes on the shifts are intoxicating.
ABSOLUTELY STUNNING EXHAUST!!! THAT PDK IS FAST!!!!
Ending seems to be bissing some audio. These mountain vids are sick tough!
Your car sounds AMAZING!
The RS sounds amazing!
I bagged my 991.2 RS for the 991.2 GT3.... I love that car.... Dundun exhaust on the way. Cant wait.
Great video, looks like you guys had a great time!
Perfect sound check 11mins in 😁👍🇬🇧
The RS sounds incredible in the distance!
Matt it cracks me up how closely at certain RPMs my Subaru 3.6 R six sounds The same, same basic sound is there being that it’s a flat six. The other day I took a coworker for ride that had several Porsches and he was cracking up because my engine is obviously in the front, but apparently my engine sounds exactly like a 76 2.8 liter Porsche lol
Wow. Great road and great cars. As much fun as my "dialed in" '91 civic is, I'm betting those two cars are way more fun.
Knew you were gonna like the .2 manual, and I’m sure the .2RS will be that much better. Loved the chase vid Matt, RS sounds amazing.
not that much better.barely changed anything
that intro! wowza! the souuuuund
“seems a little better in mine, I mean the GT4” 😜👍
991.2 GT3 manual is the world’s perfect car!
I feel like having a 911 Touring and RS would be to similar and given the choice you'd most likely take the RS. Where as having an RS or GT3 Manual wit something like an E92 gives you the best of both worlds.
That area looks beautiful. Where is this? I'm always a big fan of any manual transmission Porsche. Thanks.
It's the Cherohala Skyway in North Carolina
Ultravoilet is such a great color on 911's.... and i normally hate purple.
So would you recommend the manual or pdk?
Your downshifts are amazing!!
13:28 those bikers got their money's worth coming to the mountains
What. A. Soundtrack!
Manual all-day! More soul and better driving enjoyment
But slow af
Great share, polorized filter for the dashcam maybe?
If you ever drive a manual 991.2 GT3 again, try flat-shifting it. You know you can do that...right?
The roads you guys have are much better than the ones we have here in the UK
Matt, do you prefer the mid engine handling characteristics of the Cayman GT4 over the 991.2 GT3's? I'm sure one of the reasons why you prefer the GT3 over the GT4 is because of the sound from the 9000rpm engine.
The GT4 certainly feels more balanced and precise and it is clear that it is the superior platform when behind the wheel. But the culmination of all of the parts and character in the GT3 RS make it my choice.
Matt goes deep into whatever he does
This is not false.
would love to see a gt3 touring on your channel
Tomáš Truněček that’s coming up next day or so.
meant as in in his garage :)
Great backroads ! Is that the foothills of the Apalachian mountains ?
This is in North Carolina.
Matt when u say perfect combo with Touring and downgrade exhaust ... would the car u r driving w Sharkwerks and valves unplugged be ideal? Or would Dundon Street be better for that?
I would like stick with something like a bypass on the touring.
Do you know how much it is for the paint option? It's not on the configurator, and this is my ideal color haha. Is it PTS?
$13,000
Awesome vid man
Thanks!
That motor sounds insane
Hey, im in the market for my 991.2 GT3, I owned a 991 PDK but now wondering if I should get the 991.2 GT3 Manual or 2016 GT3 RS ? I have not driven the GT3 RS but since you own one, can you give me your opinion? 2016 GT3 RS PDK or 2018 GT3 Manual?
That's a tough one. I'd probably get the GT3 first and experience it for a few years. That will leave you room to grow.
I’m in the same boat. GT3 991.2 manual. Can’t go wrong with that. Get a 991.2 RS Weiss an in two years when prices are better
Yeah I feel same way about exhaust. It seems like gt4 had more cracking and popping noise than gt3. Miss that sound. Nice backroad. Where? I agreed like to see 50th anniversary edition cloth seat and back seat with GT3 touring body and engine and manual. I would swap my gt3 at heart beat. ;)
This is the Cherohala Skyway in North Carolina
Your RS sounds fantastic Matt. Nice. 👍🏻 Intrigued to hear some final thoughts on all the cars at the end. Especially as someone who has a 991.1 C2S manual. Don’t have the $$ for a new GT3 but contemplating a 991.2 GT3 manual in a few years when the prices get to $150k. My head says a 991.2 GTS is much better since we have such garbage driving roads in Houston but my heart says wait and buy the used .2 GT3 since it could be the last of the breed. Im also not a fan of the 992 judging by RL intel and spy shots. Looking forward to your wrap up. 👍🏻
If they decide to actually turbo the 992 GT3's...the price on the NA cars will likely go up and not down.
Luckily, we now know they won't :)
Both sound and are great but IMO that RS takes the cake. There is no "wrong" choice here. Both cars are winners.
Agreed
GT 2RS commercial It was so so good
Matt I've got a GT4, been seriously considering the extra sacrifice to jump into a GT3 manual, if GT3 is a 10 what is a GT4?
5-6, 6-7?
If a GT3 is a 10, then a GT4 is a 9. Maybe a 9.5.
@@ObsessedGarage on this particular video you seemed at Least to me that it was a night and day difference, what do you recommend then I do to mine to give it the Xtra horsepower, in Miami, thanks I really appreciate your input
What exhaust was on your GT3RS in this video?
No courtesy from those bikes
The cruiser bike people in the mountains are the worst. They rarely pull over and just get in the way of everyone.
Guy drove your car straight through the potholes lol
Manual is the way to go! Totally worth not getting an RS
Matt, can you comment on the sound difference between the Dundon Street system vs your full Catless system? Much appreciated tks
There is a pretty significant difference. It is much quieter with the cats.
Obsessed Garage good to know as still undecided on exhaust mod for my GT3T, this or the SW ... I do not have an RS so this is my early morning weekend twisty roads and DE day car ... not looking for comfort, practical or daily beater in this but special the same way u feel about your RS ... the weight saving will help move closer to 911R ethos with my AM lithium battery,PCCB’s ,LWB’s so Dundon might get me par on weight with slightly more power ... as u tested both I trust and value your opinions? Cheers
Where is this? It's absolutely stunning nature!
Cherohala Skyway in North Caroliina near Robinsville
Imagine the GT3 .2 manual with no wing and cabrio with a little more aggressive exhaust.
Speedster?
can you flat shift it with the sport mode ?
Hey Matt, if you were in a situation where you were buying a gt3 for the first time. Out of .1GT3RS vs .2GT3 which would you choose? Taking into consideration both are going to be PDK and both similarly priced? I just feel the .2gt3 with the updated 4.0 revving to 9K would appeal to me more considering im not a track fiend?
Definitely .2 if you can find one. The engine is much improved.
Anyone know why they don’t offer the Burmester option?
For a 991 gen, no matter a gt3 or a rs, i am taking the pdk over the mt anyday. Car is just getting too powerful and not really suitable for a manual anymore. True it is more "engaging" (even with all the computerized driving aids, auto rev match and such) and rolling through gears are fun, but money shifts are not. I get more pleasure rolling through gears on my '80 911sc with weber46ida and my 964 c2. As much as I love the manual transmission, the latest gt car I would go with one would be a 997 gen, true analog. Having said that, a gt4 would be a perfect of both world as a modern Porsche. Just my $0.02.
15 seconds in and I have a big grin on my face :D
Where is that place? Its a beautiful driving route.
Cherohala Skyway in North Carolina
Is the owner of the .2 gt3 live in Charlotte Nc I have pics of that car from a cars and coffee same spec same plate ???
Yes, he is in NC.
Dude...you're like a kid at a toy store, ''I want ALL THESE Toys'' LoL
Imo the rs looks way better than a regular gt3
I just dislike the no manual gearbox option
I would love a manual swaped rs
Smiley Bear agree RS is King of kings just needs a manual
A 991.1 GT3RS in Mexico blue is basically as good as it gets.....
I'm not a baby blue guy.
Do a 930 review please.
So is your .1 RS really that much faster than the .2 manual? Or were you just letting him get a little distance?
It's not. I'm just not responding quick enough to keep up.
“Do a less-aggressive exhaust” 7:20. Well he sure knows how to make me not interested in his channel or video
I would def. go with the stick shift !! even if it is slower. but damn shifting that car must be full porn!!
MATT - how about mounting a small camera inside the cars so we can see speedo and tach when test driving!
don't do that on public roads
Yea lets not show the speedo lol ..
LSU Package. I don't understand why anyone would want yellow seatbelts. Porsche does so many thing right but they kill me with those seatbelts.
Solution....if you want the out and out quickest car you choose the PDK, if you want more driver engagement and involvement and overall more fun you get the manual simple.
I wouldn't choose any sports car without a proper manual transmission that's what a sports car is all about, it's about having fun it's about driver engagement it's about driver's skill, any grandma and her friends from the nursing home can drive a Porsche GT3 or GT3 RS or GT2, but none of them would even attempt a Porsche with a manual transmission.
It's just really too bad the gearing is so tall in the GT3 I'd much rather have shorter gears and have to row through the gears and have more fun but it is what it is.
Bottom line....speed vs fun, I know what I'd always choose....... the manual.
Let's just all hope that Porsche continues to give us naturally aspirated gt3rs with manual transmissions let's hope they don't go hybrid or electric on us.
Nice!
Give tht car a guy tht can drive stick shift
I can drive just fine.
Not to sound like a douche- but I would never let anyone drive my manual gt3. People mess up the clutch pedal travel.
The .2 gt3 gaps the .1 rs
I actually like your car better. That color is hideous as yours just looks clean. Yeah a stick, all the aggressive scoops and lines, I get it but nah.
Those bikers man 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ whyyyyy
Both motorriders are ruining the ride :-(
48th bithes!!!
Manual or nothing in a sports car.
Pfffff you realy have to learn to drive the car. Get some lessons
Why does everyone rave about how good the manual car is rather than the pdk but then use auto rev match for downshifts?..... Whats the point?
PDK is far better to live with if you are a serious driver rather than a poseur.
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