The first thing you tell them is to wait while you call a witness to be present and call a reliable friend or neighbor that would gladly testify in court.
These people are above our constitution people use these people for weapons and you do have the right to face your accuser but they do it anonymous if they would make them say who they are and say if this is a false accusation you will be liable this would all stop but these people are paid to take children and there good at it.
@Sean Ransome no... it's not! (but it should be) even after Human rights got involved, after 2004 it still remains legal so long as it causes no harm to the flesh like cuts, bruises, or marks etc. It is still considered acceptable to swot a nappy oddly enough. However, most social services and CPS would suggest using other methods, and would perhaps attempt to use CBT to promote the use of them. Me personally, I find both Timeout/Naughty step, and removing privileges are extremely effective tools in effecting discipline. Get it right, and eventually you'll only have to reach for your phone (to get the timer for timeout active) and the kids will immediately reconsider their actions. My wife has it so she only needs that "look"... sends shivers down my spine even. I'm a grown man. Kids are young, not stupid, you explain to them that what they did was wrong, and that in order to put things right they have to do a timeout, and usually they'll do it. No need for violence, we all get enough of that from people who were spanked as kids. :D
When I told CPS that they had killed 3 kids in their custody so far that year and I had never killed any, the sad little case worker turned, walked away and left us alone. Know your rights. YOU CAN SAY NO
my kid went to the doctor to get a prescription filled, which she had to state what the PTSD was for, something we have dealt with already and moved on from it. I stated several times, we have an attorney and this was already dealt with. Did the doctor care? nope, doctor wanted to get her bonus check and make a report, and on the report, didn't notify CPS that this case was already dealt with and was closed and I have an attorney. Doctor also made my child more depressed with the situation and caused me more stress. We just want to move on from things. Why do we have to constantly rehash it?
@@sarahlimmericak1683 since you have an attorney, stand your ground. IMO, as long as a child is NOT being harmed, it's up to every family to decide how to best cope with things and it's definitely not for CPS. Mine was a case like that. I didn't have an attorney but I did have a family doctor, a psychiatrist and 2 therapists who we were working with and CPS HAS killed more kids than I have where I live. I can think of 4 cases offf the top of my head and so far, all the ones I had are still alive. People don't realize that you can say NO to Children's Services caseworkers who are "checking out an anonymous complaint". My sister's ex called them on her 23 times over the course of 2 years and even they had to admit that it was harassment since they never found a single issue. I'm just leery of them
He dealt with this amazingly. CPS wants parents to get angry and freak out, they will then use your emotion against you and say you’re unstable. If you act reasonable and ask valid questions, they can’t say anything. I’m sure they can try... but.... that’s why you need to record everything.
They are some of the biggest snakes there are. If they threaten court, grab your coat and say let's go. You're looking forward to putting them under oath.
He doesn't sound intelligent to me. He doesn't know the difference between the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 6th amendments. According to him everything is 1st amendment.
I was a homeless child. The worst stories you heard on the street were from kids running from foster care. Their horror stories made life on the street look way better...
Same as Social Services (the equivalent of CPS) here in UK. My acronym for them is SS. They overrun everything, make a ton of errors, don't listen to valid complaints and many children end up suffering badly because of them. Here in UK the SS think they have a God given right to march in and cause chaos, do whatever they want to, make whatever assumptions they want to and worst of all; they ignore huge red flags when children really do need to be rescued from bad situations, child abuse etc. Our UK family courts are total BS, as they will believe the SS irrespective of the real truth. Sad thing is there are a few excellent social workers; but they are smothered and suffocated because the senior SS tell them what to say or write in reports, or they take the case reports and change them to reflect something of a skeleton of the real truth, with the complete body of the report altered in many ways.
Why does she keep saying that's not important to me!!?? Umm Yes It Is Miss!! All those questions he was asking SHOULD HAVE been very important to you! Obviously this women is young and does not have that much experience. That's a very scary thought for a real case that abuse. Who knows if she could handle it, who knows how big her case load is.
The whole Foster care system is mess up. To many loop holes, To much money is being given to the system and not going to the kids, and foster parents. To kids are going to bad homes, To many kids have Died in the Foster care system. Everyone is talking about the boarder and how much all those people need us. I say NO, Our kids here need us! Change the System, Make it better, for the kids in real need. Get more and better social care workers. Give more money to all the Foster families including relatives. It's a Huge strain on a family when kids come in at first and for a while after. All of these kids have been through so much, they all should get s four year collage paid for. That does not happen today. Also in today's age tell what kid is ready to totally live on their own at 18. None, things cost way to much now and it's very overwhelming for them. I don't think these kids should be just cut off at 18! There my rant!
My abusive mother did the same thing to a social worker and when the worker left i got beat and later on had a knife held to my back while i was washing dishes
@@isaiahgunther924 , I am so truly sorry my dear that ever happen to you. That should have never happen. EVER! Foster Care is supposed to be a safe place for all kids. It's so damn sad the way it is now and been for a long time. There are some good foster parents out there. However they few and far between. That's a travesty. Not enough social workers, not enough funding, or money put in the right places as it should be. My heart brakes for all of you kids. We did it for a while, had to stop for health reasons, then Financial. That shouldn't happen, the Financial part. I sure hope you are doing ok, as I said to all the kids I came in contact with, You can DO anything your heart desires!
Isaiah Gunther that’s proof positive the system is broken and is corrupt!! I’m sorry for the things you had to endure. But you see, if the agency operates in the confines of law, your mother couldn’t have turned away a “LAWFUL” visit. That’s the issue. They hire people who are incompetent and incapable of doing the job. Obtain warrants first. To defuse situations, have parents come to offices or doctor appointments, but don’t just show up unannounced without demanding entrance to people’s homes without legal paperwork. Have paths available for people to sue those who make false accusations. The system needs reform. Period.
These people come to our property, refuse to provide a reason, identification of who they are and what agency they represent, BUT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LET THEM IN OUR HOMES AND ALLOW THEM ACCESS TO OUR MINOR CHILDREN? ???? ALL without an agency to govern their actions? !?! F THAT.
She showed him her badge that shows the agency on it, former foster child that was abused in and out of foster care like people not all social workers are bad and dont do their job correctly but sadly because the bad ones no one knows who they can trust
Most of them cause far more damage than good; they ignore the children who really need help, but go after the ones who don't - due to false reports etc.
Q. Do you know, how many people where lost by cps this year? A. That is not important to me right now. Q. Can you tell me how many people have died in cps custody? A. That is not my job sir Q. What kind of training do you have? A. That is not important right now. Q. Do you have a degree? A. That is not important right now. I have enough credentials. Q. What kind of degree do you have? A. Have a nice day sir.
Really shes there to make sure that child is safe nothing else mattered no doubt that she knew all those answer but she wasnt there for those she was there to make sure tje child was safe
I been in foster care I didn't trust anyone all smiley in your face, and talk about you behind your back. You are just a paycheck nothing more. People just need to wake up to narcissism in this country, and realize they all appear as your friends, but they all have an agenda to control your life.
@@etherealenergy9471 we had different experiences but my abusive mother actually did the same thing and when the social worker left i got beat and she held a knife to my bacl later on while i was washing dishes
Its amazing how they can come to people houses, accuse the parents and violate parents rights because of allegations, but protect the accuser rights at all cost.
Yes, if CPS really cared about families, children, and the law, then they would make all accusers swear under oath before they begin their investigation. That would be the legal and ethical way of handling accusations. I guarantee you accusations would decrease 90 percent if they operated that way.
@@christoffesedao3579 I don't like CPS tactics either. What you are saying would certainly reduce CPS snitches. The concern is probably that someone would be hesitant to report the car and a child will suffer because of that.
FIRST OF ALL, SHE WAS VERY COCKY AND I DON'T LIKE HOW SHE KEPT SAYING YOUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS WERE NOT IMPORTANT TO HER! WHAT THE HELL? AND WHEN YOU ASKED ABOUT HER TRAINING. THOSE WERE ALL LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY SINCE SHE IS A STRANGER WHO WANTS TO COME INSIDE OF YOUR HOME AND INTERVIEW YOUR KIDS. AND SECONDLY, I AM NOT SURE ABOUT TEXAS LAWS, BUT I WOULD HAVE EITHER TOLD HER OR SNATCHED THAT CAMERA OUT OF HER HAND AND SAID, "HEY, YOU ARE ON MY PROPERTY AND YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO FILM ME". YOUR PROPERTY IS NOT A PUBLIC AREA.
@@daisy.fleurs6907 im actually becoming a psychiatrist just to point out where im coming from so i look into both sides if my social worker wouldve stuck to the reason why she came i wouldnt have been beaten and had a knife behind my back after they left and im not saying it was public property so clearly someone doesnt know how to read nor did i say what she said was right what i stated or try to state was that she did her job by sticking to the reason she went, im from california so i do not know their rules in other states, but at the same time do you know both sides? ...... Im waiting oh yeah you guys nor did i see both sides besides the encounter.
@@daisy.fleurs6907 and let me clear things up im using my past as an example if you can tell me why you feel like the way i speak is an example of a cps kid then clearly you must be one too unless yout just saying that to try and make an insult.... I own a 4 bedroom house and im not even past 27 years old so lets talk and ill totally be able to school you in how the world works at least in my life, but let me guess your from an older generation? Most likely
And CPS can do the same and request his video as well showing his unwillingness to co-operate by deflecting any questions she was asking him. Not smart.
@@Strode78 Umm sorry you are mistaken. CPS cannot do the same thing...because FOIA applies only to public servants and government officials NOT private citizens. They'd have to go before a judge to apply for a search warrant, In order for them to get his video.
Good job. Especially since this lady has blatantly stating she’s not concerned about your rights or the alarming statistics that her company has. God bless man
Umm shes their to make sure the child was safe considering the child may have been the one that said something and thats all she should be focusing at that moment former foster youth abused in and out of foster care ...
@isaiahgunther924 first of all that's a big what if( the child calling). But since you've opened that door...what if, the call was unsubstantiated and baseless, then what is her purpose there?
I am a recovering addict. I have been clean for a while now , however, I'm on a medication thatbhelped me get clean and I got pregnant (not planned , told I couldn't have anymore babies) anyway, I took classes my clinic provides because it's the state law that the hospital contacts cps if the baby has ANYTHING in their system prescribed or not. And we had the former head of cps come talk to us to prepare us . She even said cps worker once told her " I act as nice as I can and just let the parents talk and talk and talk then I can catch them in anything the confidence in me" that's how twisted these people are. Thankfully the hospital chose NOT to call on me because after the social worker there spoke with me and heard my story she knew my kids were safe. Taking this class taught me ALOT about these people. Even as a child I was being abused, I called cps to save me. The worker told me (15yo) that I was almost 18 and I could leave whenever I wanted at that point that there are kids going through worse things then I am. Now that I'm older and I understand how sick these children traffickers are, I thank God that cps worker didn't do his job and left me the hell alone! Way to go dad, you di the correct thing. I believe children should be punished. There is a fine line between abuse and punishment. I've spanked my 3 kids maybe 2-3 times their entire life. They're the most respectful and well behaved children one having ADHD . Then you see parents who try "gentle pafenting" and their kids are the ones screaming and causing a mess in restaurants and stores. I've gotten compliments on how well behaved my children are while in restaurants. They are 3,7 and 9. Cps cannot tell me how I raise my children, PERIOD. I WONT EVER shame another parent for how they raise their children but people , again, need to remember there is a fine line between parenting and showing children there are consequences to their actions and beating them.
Gentle parenting and "I don't believe in punishment" parents are not protecting their children. The children run riot when young, then don't understand when they are older that actions have consequences and cannot accept being punished by the courts. Those children, now adults continue the bad behaviour, which increases as they become involved with peer groups, and they also make up a high proportion of bullies in schools.
It's obvious she's building a case, by telling him there's been allegations made against him, and she expects him to prove his innocence. Guilty until proven innocent. Brave man standing up for his rights, rights the workers obviously knows nothing about.
I have no kids but I have friends who have dealt with CPS due to bad breakups and vindictive people who are motivated to make a decent parents life hell out of spite. Protect yourselves and your families, because these people are not there to help anyone but themselves.
THAT WAS AWESOME!! I've never had any kind of experience with CPS/DHR coming to my home although, I've work in the medical field close to 18 years I know their history. I came across your video and decided to see how the outcome would turn out and I must say you sir, did a brilliant job! I'm with you all the way... it would be a cold day in hell before I let ANYONE take my child! Thanks for uploading your video, I'm sure your experience will help others in the same situation!
Right on. You handled that completely perfectly. Excellent work ! These people need to understand they are NOT in charge of the citizens. You did a fantastic job, sir ! W
Well i mean its not her concern at that moment, it was the children, wish my social workers focused on me like that but instead allowed my abusive mother to give them the run around, and its scary how similar this man sounded like her makes me have flash backs being beaten after the social workers had left
they are accomplished liars and don't ever open your door to them and get a lawyer and they can talk to your lawyer when you start mentioning lawyer they start running and leave you alone .
I understand why CPS exists, a LOT of kids are abused needlessly, but CPS takes it WAY too far and they take too many kids from parents who do love their kids
So... she’s CPS... and says she knows the statistics, of the children that are raped, lost, abused, and die, in their custody... but says they aren’t her concern. 🤔 How in the hell is that Child Protective Services?! They wanna take children away from homes to protect them... then have them abused without concern!
I love how when you asked her about the kids that CPS lose in the system and that you are asking because you are concerned about your child’s safety, it was almost as if you were saying the exact same thing she was saying right back to her!
Reverse psychology, answer a question like a politician and never give a direct answer. Any allegations of physical abuse are allegations of criminal activity, why are the police not asking questions. The crux of this situation is the whole thing is retaliatory and that's the first thing that should have been considered, is it retaliation and bias. They have no authority over you, the best thing is no conversation and shut the door.
My mother was raised in foster care and her childhood was a nightmare of sexual and physical abuse. The best thing you can do when cps knocks on your door is say I’m getting an attorney.
An attorney, a police officer, a judge, and the CPS case worker are on the same team. They are all trying to milk us. We must train ourselves to rise up, stand up, and speak up presenting our case in court by ourselves. Hint: An attorney is a guardian who turns you into a ward (underage incompetent child) in the court needing an adult to explain the matter. You thus loose your voice in court and the court cannot hear you anymore except through the guardian. Put another way, you forfeit you rights to the attorney who advises you to submit to the judge who in turn puts on a dog and pony show after which he takes your money. However, but because our education system is so inadequate, most of us need a guardian. Educate yourself.
@@blackgirlmagic6467 in what way was he acting and most the other videos on here cps workers dont record usually its them telling people not to record them
@@blackgirlmagic6467 wait maybe your right he was acting like he knew what he was talking about maybe she can play it back and learn something about the rights that people have that she said she was not concerned about
One of the Rights you have that they don't tell you about is your absolute right to say NO. CPS in the county I live in has had a couple children murdered by THEIR foster parents. When a family member decided to use CPS to harass me, I played nice the first visit. By the 4th caseworker in 3 weeks, I was DONE. Fortunately, it was summer so they couldn't jump them at school and I told the last caseworker that NO you cannot question my children or come into my house unless they showed up with a sheriff and a court order. I also asked them the same question he did-how many kids has the County handed over to murderers. See, I've NEVER killed a child, but CPS has so maybe they should investigate themselves???
I Am a retired foster parent..you handled this situation very well..I've seen them take children on false information..1step...,,4th amendment...2nd..get a lawyer....I've seen this way to many times..cps run from lawyers..
You got to wonder about a person that takes a stressful job, and doesn't get much for it. I think some have a mental disorder were they only feel good if they make others feel bad by controlling their lives. Any good person with empathy, and sympathy would not take a job with CPS knowing what some of the things they do. They are actually worse enabling it.
Not all of them wake up and smell the truth just like everything there are bad workers and those who do it for the kids and will try to keep their focus on the kids because some abusive parents like my mother did the same thing this guy did and when the social worker left i got beat and had a knife held to my back when i was washing dishes
@@isaiahgunther924 how many times are you going to say the exact same sentence on every single comment? We get it you're a CPS worker and had a tough upbringing but a lot(not all) of kids taken away today are not being abused yet they take them away and they're put into a system that's very evil and corrupt. I'm sorry you went through that, no child should fear their parents or be physically or emotionally abused EVER and I'm not saying all CPS workers are evil but it seems like 80% of them are. My personal experience still haunts me and my children and they're in therapy because if what was done to them by CPS and a foster family. I hope you're one of the good guys and actually make a difference in a good way.
CPS has to justify their existence. That is why they remove so many children for petty offenses, but dont care what happens to them after. Sickening part is when people gets bonuses for removing most kids.
you should have mentioned the 14th Amendment which reads, " Fourteenth Amendment .... No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws ....
@@chrislowden1690 look , they can say whatever they want, who signs the pay checks , and if it is government then the catholic children's aid society isn't government run. Wow u think just because it say it is government it is run by them. Are u led by your nose all the time or just when u get told
@@shewhotalkstothewindanne3377 are u able to read? Or do u just enjoy making shit up? Its right there in black and white. Dont ask people to look it up, if it just makes u look stupid. Ur conspiracy theory is the reply of the uneducated.
Absolutely NOTHING wrong with a GED or online credentials from an accredited school. Most social services jobs require a college degree/Master's degree . That lady did nothing wrong.
@@uxobi3862 If you go to someone's house ready to ask a out their kids, come correct. Saying you don't care about the stats is a no go in any situation
Your patience is amazing. You did such a good job handling this mess. Just dealing with these traffickers in such a calm way shows that you’re a GREAT FATHER sir. God bless your family
CPS won't tell you who accuses you no matter what state you are in...she is wrong saying "Texas" doesn't have to provide that. No state will tell you...ever. AND,, if you don't let them talk in your home, they WILL talk to your child alone in school...mark my words.
They are there to build a case against you. Sure they may find they cant find evidence against you by interviewing your kids. However, they dont have anything, they have to prove something to take your kids away. Why even mess with that. Keep them away from your family.
Make sure your kids are told don't talk to them about their home. CPS will go to the school to get by you and the school looks out for itself not anyone else like the kids in their care.
Not so CPS does not even have to have a warrant to enter the home. A CPS worker can not disclose who the reporting source is. Also if she wanted to all she has to do is go to the school to interview the children without the parents permission. There is no stake in it, for the worker. It’s not like they get a bonus for every child removed.
Reezyy 713 I’ve been a CPS investigator for many years and trust me we don’t get paid for every child taken also it’s our goal to seek to keep the family together. If there were no concerns then PS would not be at the home. We don’t have a crystal Ball 🔮
Thats good to know but not everyone is in it for the right reasons &you all start making your own assumptions based off of an allegation so yeah there is a possibility that you go even when there is no concern now a days people call cps a hundred times just to be cruel
If your only job is to make sure that those children are safe than your job is to not take them from the parents and throw them into CPS custody because most children in CPS custody are being abused in some way whether it is mental physical or sexually to the point that some are even murdered so if your concern is the safety of the child then you should be concerned about what is happening when you place them in your custody
Well i was abused in and out of foster care so that statement isnt all the way true i wish my mom was safe to live with still giving hee a chance amd shes living in my house but still tries to abuse my younger siblings but oops sorry my house bye bye not all workers are bad just like this world isnt full of all bad people
The lady says... how do u know Im building a case against you. The second you open the door and speak to them is when you just began your case. Dont ooen doors. do not speak to them. If they REALLY feel like you're abusing your kids, they will come back with a Signed warrant from a judge. what happened with this case.
The best bit of advice I can give you is to put up no trespassing signs on your property that saved me somebody called in an allegation of educational neglect because I took my kids from school to homeschool. Because I had to no trespassing signs they called to see if they could come on the property and I said no I did arrange to meet them in town and my case was closed in less than 30 days I know that it's scary but keep up the good work don't sign any contract with them
He blew it when he said ‘I practice corporal punishment’. I am stunned at the depths these parents go to, to deflect. Dr. Phil always says to never miss the opportunity to shut up.
I mean, if she hears someone say they have hit their kids after someone has been accused of using physical abuse on their kids…what do you think is gonna happen?
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Man is protecting his family from government intrusion.
Well done
Exactly the questions every parent should be asking a social worker that comes knocking on families doors. Bravo!
Stephanie London He is spot on with his questions. I love that he knows what is really going on.
There should be pamplits with all your rights and questions you should ask any CPS agent .
Thank you
The first thing you tell them is to wait while you call a witness to be present and call a reliable friend or neighbor that would gladly testify in court.
@@rushfan9thcmd Nah. Camera's are the best witnesses of them all. Camera never lie. He is fine.
Way to go dad! You conducted yourself so well!! Never back down and stand your ground to protect your kids!
Melanie Howe sounds like one of his kids said something to someone. He wants to face his accuser he may need to start in his own house.
These people are above our constitution people use these people for weapons and you do have the right to face your accuser but they do it anonymous if they would make them say who they are and say if this is a false accusation you will be liable this would all stop but these people are paid to take children and there good at it.
@DB Stevens Yes they are paid to take and keep children.
DB Stevens
By corporal punishment do you men spanking?
Spanking isn’t abuse in most instances.
@Sean Ransome no... it's not! (but it should be) even after Human rights got involved, after 2004 it still remains legal so long as it causes no harm to the flesh like cuts, bruises, or marks etc. It is still considered acceptable to swot a nappy oddly enough. However, most social services and CPS would suggest using other methods, and would perhaps attempt to use CBT to promote the use of them. Me personally, I find both Timeout/Naughty step, and removing privileges are extremely effective tools in effecting discipline. Get it right, and eventually you'll only have to reach for your phone (to get the timer for timeout active) and the kids will immediately reconsider their actions. My wife has it so she only needs that "look"... sends shivers down my spine even. I'm a grown man. Kids are young, not stupid, you explain to them that what they did was wrong, and that in order to put things right they have to do a timeout, and usually they'll do it. No need for violence, we all get enough of that from people who were spanked as kids. :D
When I told CPS that they had killed 3 kids in their custody so far that year and I had never killed any, the sad little case worker turned, walked away and left us alone. Know your rights. YOU CAN SAY NO
@@mirandabillups-hudson9912 by knowingly placing them into abusive foster homes!!
Did they come back with a warrant?
I wish I would have known this 5 years ago.
my kid went to the doctor to get a prescription filled, which she had to state what the PTSD was for, something we have dealt with already and moved on from it. I stated several times, we have an attorney and this was already dealt with. Did the doctor care? nope, doctor wanted to get her bonus check and make a report, and on the report, didn't notify CPS that this case was already dealt with and was closed and I have an attorney. Doctor also made my child more depressed with the situation and caused me more stress. We just want to move on from things. Why do we have to constantly rehash it?
@@sarahlimmericak1683 since you have an attorney, stand your ground. IMO, as long as a child is NOT being harmed, it's up to every family to decide how to best cope with things and it's definitely not for CPS. Mine was a case like that. I didn't have an attorney but I did have a family doctor, a psychiatrist and 2 therapists who we were working with and CPS HAS killed more kids than I have where I live. I can think of 4 cases offf the top of my head and so far, all the ones I had are still alive. People don't realize that you can say NO to Children's Services caseworkers who are "checking out an anonymous complaint". My sister's ex called them on her 23 times over the course of 2 years and even they had to admit that it was harassment since they never found a single issue. I'm just leery of them
He dealt with this amazingly. CPS wants parents to get angry and freak out, they will then use your emotion against you and say you’re unstable. If you act reasonable and ask valid questions, they can’t say anything. I’m sure they can try... but.... that’s why you need to record everything.
They are some of the biggest snakes there are. If they threaten court, grab your coat and say let's go. You're looking forward to putting them under oath.
There's over 100 foster kids un accounted for in Kansas. DCF lost them. It's been in the news. They are missing.
They're in some ragtag private prison. Sickening country we live in.
Yep!
I thought the cops took them to brainwash them into more ignorant civil servants.
Look up Boy eaten by Pigs in Kansas City Kansas. The CPS In Missouri and Kansas is So Corrupt that they can not even keep track of Children..
That ia terrible!
He sound intelligent and well aware of cps trying to pull a fast one. I think he probably has more credentials than she has. He has my respect.
He doesn't sound intelligent to me. He doesn't know the difference between the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 6th amendments. According to him everything is 1st amendment.
@@willdwyer6782 he's intelligent enough to know that no one in America can just come into his private home uninvited without a warrant
@@willdwyer6782 ok,well he's still right.
I was a homeless child. The worst stories you heard on the street were from kids running from foster care. Their horror stories made life on the street look way better...
No warrant? Bubye. Your dismissed public servant.
Shes not a servant she a working women trying to do her job old foster child here thats delt with abuse in and out of cps
Isaiah Gunther she gets paid by tax payers. She’s a public servant.
@@isaiahgunther924
She's quite literally a public servant, since she oath on the constitution!
good job dad you messed her mind up with all that legal talk .
Can you post an update?? CPS IS SO CORRUPT! WAY TO STAND YOUR GROUD DAD!
I want to know update also
VickiLovinmySelf it’s on the first video in the description.. they dropped the case and the lady in the video quit her job
They will purposely keep a case open for no reason other than to get more funding.
Same as Social Services (the equivalent of CPS) here in UK. My acronym for them is SS. They overrun everything, make a ton of errors, don't listen to valid complaints and many children end up suffering badly because of them. Here in UK the SS think they have a God given right to march in and cause chaos, do whatever they want to, make whatever assumptions they want to and worst of all; they ignore huge red flags when children really do need to be rescued from bad situations, child abuse etc.
Our UK family courts are total BS, as they will believe the SS irrespective of the real truth.
Sad thing is there are a few excellent social workers; but they are smothered and suffocated because the senior SS tell them what to say or write in reports, or they take the case reports and change them to reflect something of a skeleton of the real truth, with the complete body of the report altered in many ways.
NEVER, never, talk to CPS without a lawyer present. Remain silent! Never let them into your house without proper signed court order.
Why does she keep saying that's not important to me!!?? Umm Yes It Is Miss!! All those questions he was asking SHOULD HAVE been very important to you!
Obviously this women is young and does not have that much experience. That's a very scary thought for a real case that abuse. Who knows if she could handle it, who knows how big her case load is.
The whole Foster care system is mess up. To many loop holes, To much money is being given to the system and not going to the kids, and foster parents. To kids are going to bad homes, To many kids have Died in the Foster care system. Everyone is talking about the boarder and how much all those people need us. I say NO, Our kids here need us! Change the System, Make it better, for the kids in real need. Get more and better social care workers. Give more money to all the Foster families including relatives. It's a Huge strain on a family when kids come in at first and for a while after. All of these kids have been through so much, they all should get s four year collage paid for. That does not happen today. Also in today's age tell what kid is ready to totally live on their own at 18. None, things cost way to much now and it's very overwhelming for them. I don't think these kids should be just cut off at 18! There my rant!
My abusive mother did the same thing to a social worker and when the worker left i got beat and later on had a knife held to my back while i was washing dishes
@@pagevaughn9194 well said!! Best comment I've heard yet
@@isaiahgunther924 , I am so truly sorry my dear that ever happen to you. That should have never happen. EVER! Foster Care is supposed to be a safe place for all kids. It's so damn sad the way it is now and been for a long time. There are some good foster parents out there. However they few and far between. That's a travesty. Not enough social workers, not enough funding, or money put in the right places as it should be. My heart brakes for all of you kids. We did it for a while, had to stop for health reasons, then Financial. That shouldn't happen, the Financial part. I sure hope you are doing ok, as I said to all the kids I came in contact with, You can DO anything your heart desires!
Isaiah Gunther that’s proof positive the system is broken and is corrupt!! I’m sorry for the things you had to endure. But you see, if the agency operates in the confines of law, your mother couldn’t have turned away a “LAWFUL” visit. That’s the issue. They hire people who are incompetent and incapable of doing the job. Obtain warrants first. To defuse situations, have parents come to offices or doctor appointments, but don’t just show up unannounced without demanding entrance to people’s homes without legal paperwork. Have paths available for people to sue those who make false accusations. The system needs reform. Period.
These people come to our property, refuse to provide a reason, identification of who they are and what agency they represent, BUT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LET THEM IN OUR HOMES AND ALLOW THEM ACCESS TO OUR MINOR CHILDREN? ???? ALL without an agency to govern their actions? !?! F THAT.
She showed him her badge that shows the agency on it, former foster child that was abused in and out of foster care like people not all social workers are bad and dont do their job correctly but sadly because the bad ones no one knows who they can trust
Most of them cause far more damage than good; they ignore the children who really need help, but go after the ones who don't - due to false reports etc.
You handled that great. Just it is the 6th amendment that grants you the right to know who your accuser is not the 1st.
Q. Do you know, how many people where lost by cps this year?
A. That is not important to me right now.
Q. Can you tell me how many people have died in cps custody?
A. That is not my job sir
Q. What kind of training do you have?
A. That is not important right now.
Q. Do you have a degree?
A. That is not important right now. I have enough credentials.
Q. What kind of degree do you have?
A. Have a nice day sir.
France Bornais so scary
I agree with you !! Its not important to her ???? If it were her kids she would do the same and ask the same questions I'm sure ....
Really shes there to make sure that child is safe nothing else mattered no doubt that she knew all those answer but she wasnt there for those she was there to make sure tje child was safe
If she wants to make sure a child is ok she better start making her own child
@@walterneves5978 well some parents need to have some one intervine d
Way to Go! Mr. Brown they didn’t see it coming! Oh ! And she would have tried to build a case against you!
They’re not your friends, they,re building a case agains you indeed, great standing Sr.
I been in foster care I didn't trust anyone all smiley in your face, and talk about you behind your back. You are just a paycheck nothing more. People just need to wake up to narcissism in this country, and realize they all appear as your friends, but they all have an agenda to control your life.
@@etherealenergy9471 we had different experiences but my abusive mother actually did the same thing and when the social worker left i got beat and she held a knife to my bacl later on while i was washing dishes
@@isaiahgunther924 sorry you had went through that. Better off having a mother that has died rather than be with you, and be abusive.
@@etherealenergy9471 very true
They sure are!
Good on you Mr Brown, you handled yourself very well
Its amazing how they can come to people houses, accuse the parents and violate parents rights because of allegations, but protect the accuser rights at all cost.
Yes, if CPS really cared about families, children, and the law, then they would make all accusers swear under oath before they begin their investigation. That would be the legal and ethical way of handling accusations. I guarantee you accusations would decrease 90 percent if they operated that way.
@@christoffesedao3579 I don't like CPS tactics either. What you are saying would certainly reduce CPS snitches. The concern is probably that someone would be hesitant to report the car and a child will suffer because of that.
They will never knock on the door to make a case FOR you believe that. This man is a hero. Blessings to you and your family sir.
If they approach you, it is mostly to be against you.
FIRST OF ALL, SHE WAS VERY COCKY AND I DON'T LIKE HOW SHE KEPT SAYING YOUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS WERE NOT IMPORTANT TO HER! WHAT THE HELL? AND WHEN YOU ASKED ABOUT HER TRAINING. THOSE WERE ALL LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY SINCE SHE IS A STRANGER WHO WANTS TO COME INSIDE OF YOUR HOME AND INTERVIEW YOUR KIDS. AND SECONDLY, I AM NOT SURE ABOUT TEXAS LAWS, BUT I WOULD HAVE EITHER TOLD HER OR SNATCHED THAT CAMERA OUT OF HER HAND AND SAID, "HEY, YOU ARE ON MY PROPERTY AND YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO FILM ME". YOUR PROPERTY IS NOT A PUBLIC AREA.
Shes doing her job, and he kept talking over her shit i would start not caring either if he wouldnt listen to me..... Been im cps all my life
@@isaiahgunther924 Obviously from cps, judging by your language and grasp of sympathy, right?
@@daisy.fleurs6907 im actually becoming a psychiatrist just to point out where im coming from so i look into both sides if my social worker wouldve stuck to the reason why she came i wouldnt have been beaten and had a knife behind my back after they left and im not saying it was public property so clearly someone doesnt know how to read nor did i say what she said was right what i stated or try to state was that she did her job by sticking to the reason she went, im from california so i do not know their rules in other states, but at the same time do you know both sides? ...... Im waiting oh yeah you guys nor did i see both sides besides the encounter.
@@daisy.fleurs6907 and let me clear things up im using my past as an example if you can tell me why you feel like the way i speak is an example of a cps kid then clearly you must be one too unless yout just saying that to try and make an insult.... I own a 4 bedroom house and im not even past 27 years old so lets talk and ill totally be able to school you in how the world works at least in my life, but let me guess your from an older generation? Most likely
@@daisy.fleurs6907 anyways happy thanks giving i hope you have a wonderful day with your family
She was recording you, make sure you do a Freedom of Information Act request of her video.
What state does this acure.
@@feliciablake12 Texas.
Good idea..
And CPS can do the same and request his video as well showing his unwillingness to co-operate by deflecting any questions she was asking him. Not smart.
@@Strode78 Umm sorry you are mistaken. CPS cannot do the same thing...because FOIA applies only to public servants and government officials NOT private citizens. They'd have to go before a judge to apply for a search warrant, In order for them to get his video.
Good job. Especially since this lady has blatantly stating she’s not concerned about your rights or the alarming statistics that her company has. God bless man
Umm shes their to make sure the child was safe considering the child may have been the one that said something and thats all she should be focusing at that moment former foster youth abused in and out of foster care ...
@isaiahgunther924 first of all that's a big what if( the child calling). But since you've opened that door...what if, the call was unsubstantiated and baseless, then what is her purpose there?
The 6th Amendment is the one that allows you to face your accuser.
And a person has a right to face their accuser... in court.
I am a recovering addict. I have been clean for a while now , however, I'm on a medication thatbhelped me get clean and I got pregnant (not planned , told I couldn't have anymore babies) anyway, I took classes my clinic provides because it's the state law that the hospital contacts cps if the baby has ANYTHING in their system prescribed or not. And we had the former head of cps come talk to us to prepare us . She even said cps worker once told her " I act as nice as I can and just let the parents talk and talk and talk then I can catch them in anything the confidence in me" that's how twisted these people are. Thankfully the hospital chose NOT to call on me because after the social worker there spoke with me and heard my story she knew my kids were safe. Taking this class taught me ALOT about these people. Even as a child I was being abused, I called cps to save me. The worker told me (15yo) that I was almost 18 and I could leave whenever I wanted at that point that there are kids going through worse things then I am. Now that I'm older and I understand how sick these children traffickers are, I thank God that cps worker didn't do his job and left me the hell alone!
Way to go dad, you di the correct thing. I believe children should be punished. There is a fine line between abuse and punishment. I've spanked my 3 kids maybe 2-3 times their entire life. They're the most respectful and well behaved children one having ADHD . Then you see parents who try "gentle pafenting" and their kids are the ones screaming and causing a mess in restaurants and stores. I've gotten compliments on how well behaved my children are while in restaurants. They are 3,7 and 9. Cps cannot tell me how I raise my children, PERIOD. I WONT EVER shame another parent for how they raise their children but people , again, need to remember there is a fine line between parenting and showing children there are consequences to their actions and beating them.
Gentle parenting and "I don't believe in punishment" parents are not protecting their children. The children run riot when young, then don't understand when they are older that actions have consequences and cannot accept being punished by the courts. Those children, now adults continue the bad behaviour, which increases as they become involved with peer groups, and they also make up a high proportion of bullies in schools.
He asked her what were her certifications. Love it!!!!
It's obvious she's building a case, by telling him there's been allegations made against him, and she expects him to prove his innocence. Guilty until proven innocent. Brave man standing up for his rights, rights the workers obviously knows nothing about.
Excellent ❗️ He handled that perfectly. And yes, THAT is their objective; to build a case against you. You do have a right to face your accuser! 👈✅
If this was a different neighborhood the cops would have been there and standing in his house.
And taking his kids. Yep if it was a poor nieborhood as soon as u refuse them you'll be lucky if they don't take your children
Exactly right! I've seen it happen before. Very sad!!
Yep! It happened to me!!!!
I have no kids but I have friends who have dealt with CPS due to bad breakups and vindictive people who are motivated to make a decent parents life hell out of spite. Protect yourselves and your families, because these people are not there to help anyone but themselves.
NEVER let them in your house without a court order. They are disgusting vultures who prey on parents and their children for profit.
THAT WAS AWESOME!! I've never had any kind of experience with CPS/DHR coming to my home although, I've work in the medical field close to 18 years I know their history. I came across your video and decided to see how the outcome would turn out and I must say you sir, did a brilliant job! I'm with you all the way... it would be a cold day in hell before I let ANYONE take my child!
Thanks for uploading your video, I'm sure your experience will help others in the same situation!
My abusive mothee did the same thing as this father and when the worker left i got beat and later on my mother held a knife to my back....
You handled this perfectly. Well done. Pure verbal foreplay judo. Beautiful. I wish you the best of luck
Well done
Super cool, super smooth and super informed. WELL DONE! KNOW YOUR RIGHTS!!!
Right on. You handled that completely perfectly.
Excellent work !
These people need to understand they are NOT in charge of the citizens.
You did a fantastic job, sir !
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When she told you thats not her concern you should of said well thats to bad because these children are my concern
Well i mean its not her concern at that moment, it was the children, wish my social workers focused on me like that but instead allowed my abusive mother to give them the run around, and its scary how similar this man sounded like her makes me have flash backs being beaten after the social workers had left
He did, twice.
they are accomplished liars and don't ever open your door to them and get a lawyer and they can talk to your lawyer when you start mentioning lawyer they start running and leave you alone .
Phonelady61 Thanks for the info, good to know
Very true! I couldn't afford a lawyer and they knew it so they went after my family like a pack of wolves!
Well done ! Outstanding Dad !
That's right trust the government.....it's like buying underwear at a yardsale.
Eeeww. Yes it is.
Yep!!!
CPS: "How do you know I'm building a case"?
UHHH BECAUSE THATS WTF YOU DO
Thanks for standing up for you & your family & not letting her walk all over you
I understand why CPS exists, a LOT of kids are abused needlessly, but CPS takes it WAY too far and they take too many kids from parents who do love their kids
Protect yourself dad.
This guy is pure genius
Great job. I served for the constitution n live by it. Never let anyone in ur home with out a warrant.
I like how concerned he was upon learning that his child is suicida;.
So smooth. So well put. I can only hope to try to portray myself as professionally as you have sir.
Never give them any information
So... she’s CPS... and says she knows the statistics, of the children that are raped, lost, abused, and die, in their custody... but says they aren’t her concern. 🤔 How in the hell is that Child Protective Services?! They wanna take children away from homes to protect them... then have them abused without concern!
There’s no way a physical abuser would be this calm while being accused
I love how when you asked her about the kids that CPS lose in the system and that you are asking because you are concerned about your child’s safety, it was almost as if you were saying the exact same thing she was saying right back to her!
that's not important right know. what the hell?
Its not shes there for the kids and the kids safety only
Reverse psychology, answer a question like a politician and never give a direct answer.
Any allegations of physical abuse are allegations of criminal activity, why are the police not asking questions.
The crux of this situation is the whole thing is retaliatory and that's the first thing that should have been considered, is it retaliation and bias.
They have no authority over you, the best thing is no conversation and shut the door.
Your children’s safety is my concern”
“Children getting lost in our corrupt system isn’t my concern”
Wow. Just wow.
My mother was raised in foster care and her childhood was a nightmare of sexual and physical abuse. The best thing you can do when cps knocks on your door is say I’m getting an attorney.
An attorney, a police officer, a judge, and the CPS case worker are on the same team. They are all trying to milk us. We must train ourselves to rise up, stand up, and speak up presenting our case in court by ourselves.
Hint: An attorney is a guardian who turns you into a ward (underage incompetent child) in the court needing an adult to explain the matter. You thus loose your voice in court and the court cannot hear you anymore except through the guardian. Put another way, you forfeit you rights to the attorney who advises you to submit to the judge who in turn puts on a dog and pony show after which he takes your money.
However, but because our education system is so inadequate, most of us need a guardian.
Educate yourself.
She recorded u and u had your door open always have your door closed and unless she has a warrent, never talk to them.
SheWhoTalksToTheWind /ANNE it’s for safety the way he was acting I would record you
@@blackgirlmagic6467 in what way was he acting and most the other videos on here cps workers dont record usually its them telling people not to record them
@@blackgirlmagic6467 wait maybe your right he was acting like he knew what he was talking about maybe she can play it back and learn something about the rights that people have that she said she was not concerned about
One of the Rights you have that they don't tell you about is your absolute right to say NO. CPS in the county I live in has had a couple children murdered by THEIR foster parents. When a family member decided to use CPS to harass me, I played nice the first visit. By the 4th caseworker in 3 weeks, I was DONE. Fortunately, it was summer so they couldn't jump them at school and I told the last caseworker that NO you cannot question my children or come into my house unless they showed up with a sheriff and a court order. I also asked them the same question he did-how many kids has the County handed over to murderers. See, I've NEVER killed a child, but CPS has so maybe they should investigate themselves???
I Am a retired foster parent..you handled this situation very well..I've seen them take children on false information..1step...,,4th amendment...2nd..get a lawyer....I've seen this way to many times..cps run from lawyers..
WOW!!!
YOU SIR.
ARE A HERO TO EVERY PARENT AND EVERY CHILD WHO HAS EVER BEEN A TARGET OF THESE STATE SIDE TERRORISTS!
She probably has a BA in art. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to work for CPS. They are bottom feeders.
You got to wonder about a person that takes a stressful job, and doesn't get much for it. I think some have a mental disorder were they only feel good if they make others feel bad by controlling their lives. Any good person with empathy, and sympathy would not take a job with CPS knowing what some of the things they do. They are actually worse enabling it.
Not all of them wake up and smell the truth just like everything there are bad workers and those who do it for the kids and will try to keep their focus on the kids because some abusive parents like my mother did the same thing this guy did and when the social worker left i got beat and had a knife held to my back when i was washing dishes
@@isaiahgunther924 how many times are you going to say the exact same sentence on every single comment? We get it you're a CPS worker and had a tough upbringing but a lot(not all) of kids taken away today are not being abused yet they take them away and they're put into a system that's very evil and corrupt. I'm sorry you went through that, no child should fear their parents or be physically or emotionally abused EVER and I'm not saying all CPS workers are evil but it seems like 80% of them are.
My personal experience still haunts me and my children and they're in therapy because if what was done to them by CPS and a foster family. I hope you're one of the good guys and actually make a difference in a good way.
free range Chimkin Nuggers gurl I can do whatever I want thank you and may god be with you I’m this time of crisis
Social work is below art
CPS has to justify their existence. That is why they remove so many children for petty offenses, but dont care what happens to them after. Sickening part is when people gets bonuses for removing most kids.
you should have mentioned the 14th Amendment which reads, " Fourteenth Amendment
.... No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws ....
Thumbs up to you! Well done! That is exactly the way to handle CPS!
We got the case closed, today April 30 2019
CPS is a private for profit corporation, not a government agency.
Lisa Warren not so CPS is a government agency
@Tanasha Brown the isn't a government agency they are private. Look it up,
@@shewhotalkstothewindanne3377 the first thing it says is it is a govt agency. Maybe do ur own research, liar.
@@chrislowden1690 look , they can say whatever they want, who signs the pay checks , and if it is government then the catholic children's aid society isn't government run. Wow u think just because it say it is government it is run by them. Are u led by your nose all the time or just when u get told
@@shewhotalkstothewindanne3377 are u able to read? Or do u just enjoy making shit up? Its right there in black and white. Dont ask people to look it up, if it just makes u look stupid.
Ur conspiracy theory is the reply of the uneducated.
Good going, Wayne. The supreme court just ruled that they cannot come into your house by claiming an emergency. Just tell them goodbye.
Is this in every state?
Meanwhile somebody down the road is locking their kid up in the basement and starving them.
His daughter has reported he is physically abusing her and she has suicidal thoughts because of the abuse.
She working off that GED and an online credential
Absolutely NOTHING wrong with a GED or online credentials from an accredited school. Most social services jobs require a college degree/Master's degree . That lady did nothing wrong.
@@uxobi3862 If you go to someone's house ready to ask a out their kids, come correct. Saying you don't care about the stats is a no go in any situation
@@juststuff9796 Agree with you 100% having the power to just kidnap kids anytime they want to I'm gonna need to know
SPOT ON! So do most COPS unfortunately smdh.
@@uxobi3862 no way. Some jobs are NOT appropriate for an online education! ! Come ON SMH.
Great job sir!
Dude great job. Very articulate and on point!
No he wasn’t he kept thinking the 6th amendment was the 1st
I love this video so much. Probably the best refusal/audit I've ever seen. This dude did it exactly how I would have.
Way to go dad! You were completely right and you stand your ground. You had more patience then I would have had with her.
I love this Father, for real. If this was true the Police would have been called. F.O.I.A. that call then Sue them...
This is the most polite and professional argument I’ve ever seen in my life!
You handled this like a boss. Good job!
Your patience is amazing. You did such a good job handling this mess. Just dealing with these traffickers in such a calm way shows that you’re a GREAT FATHER sir. God bless your family
He handled the order follower splendidly.
CPS won't tell you who accuses you no matter what state you are in...she is wrong saying "Texas" doesn't have to provide that. No state will tell you...ever. AND,, if you don't let them talk in your home, they WILL talk to your child alone in school...mark my words.
Awesome, You nailed it brother!
They are there to build a case against you. Sure they may find they cant find evidence against you by interviewing your kids. However, they dont have anything, they have to prove something to take your kids away. Why even mess with that. Keep them away from your family.
Make sure your kids are told don't talk to them about their home. CPS will go to the school to get by you and the school looks out for itself not anyone else like the kids in their care.
You have a right to know who your accusers are
But he didnt give hes name she cant give any info until she knows she talking to the right person she could lose her job, formee foster youth here
So not with dcf its a felony for her to tell him who called. A dcf worker is not going to risk having a criminal record and loosing their job for you.
You are spot on. Great job.
Good job dad!! God bless
No update? I'm pretty sure they didn't just stay away
On the first video someone said she quit and they got a letter saying the case was dropped.
Love watching these videos because cps will say its thier "policy" but im pretty positive the LAWS get the upper hand
Not so CPS does not even have to have a warrant to enter the home. A CPS worker can not disclose who the reporting source is. Also if she wanted to all she has to do is go to the school to interview the children without the parents permission. There is no stake in it, for the worker. It’s not like they get a bonus for every child removed.
Okay thats thier policy but according to OUR amendments no they cannot! And without probable cause then it will get dismissed case closed
And yes they do get paid off of each case that they take a child from
Reezyy 713 I’ve been a CPS investigator for many years and trust me we don’t get paid for every child taken also it’s our goal to seek to keep the family together. If there were no concerns then PS would not be at the home. We don’t have a crystal Ball 🔮
Thats good to know but not everyone is in it for the right reasons &you all start making your own assumptions based off of an allegation so yeah there is a possibility that you go even when there is no concern now a days people call cps a hundred times just to be cruel
Credentials mean nothing if you can’t show them 🤦♂️
You handle yourself so well bravo sir.
GD JOB SIR, I'M VERY PROUD OF U!👏👏👏
If your only job is to make sure that those children are safe than your job is to not take them from the parents and throw them into CPS custody because most children in CPS custody are being abused in some way whether it is mental physical or sexually to the point that some are even murdered so if your concern is the safety of the child then you should be concerned about what is happening when you place them in your custody
Well i was abused in and out of foster care so that statement isnt all the way true i wish my mom was safe to live with still giving hee a chance amd shes living in my house but still tries to abuse my younger siblings but oops sorry my house bye bye not all workers are bad just like this world isnt full of all bad people
What a badass that's how u fight gov't. Intrusion in our lives!
👏 bravo! well done..you have very valid concerns that she refused to address! good job.
Well done sir. Best wishes to you and your family.
The lady says... how do u know Im building a case against you. The second you open the door and speak to them is when you just began your case. Dont ooen doors. do not speak to them. If they REALLY feel like you're abusing your kids, they will come back with a Signed warrant from a judge. what happened with this case.
The best bit of advice I can give you is to put up no trespassing signs on your property that saved me somebody called in an allegation of educational neglect because I took my kids from school to homeschool. Because I had to no trespassing signs they called to see if they could come on the property and I said no I did arrange to meet them in town and my case was closed in less than 30 days I know that it's scary but keep up the good work don't sign any contract with them
Well done Sir , The culture of the American Constitution is alive and well . I salute you
You good man, very well handled and great you know your rights. Awesome
never talk to cps or let them in house... NEVER
It looks like she's recording him too with her cell phone.
He blew it when he said ‘I practice corporal punishment’.
I am stunned at the depths these parents go to, to deflect. Dr. Phil always says to never miss the opportunity to shut up.
He stated they are too old for it now,
I mean, if she hears someone say they have hit their kids after someone has been accused of using physical abuse on their kids…what do you think is gonna happen?
An allegation is nothing more than "hear say" . Glad you stood up for your rights.