Spikeweed is REALLY cool: here's why
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Spikeweed is cool. Thats it. he just do be. theres no reaaaasonable question to ask, he is just cool, and this is a video proving why it do be cool. Its also a cool video, which further extends the cool factor.
Of course, I am also saying Cool too much, so maybe I should stop.
...nah. Cool is a cool word, so I should keep saying it. Thats simply just cool.
Timestamps:
0:00: Intro
0:50: What is spikeweed?
4:15: Simply Versatile
9:22: Never Changing
11:33: The Other Weeds
17:16: Conclusions
Footage is from:
Plants VS Zombies
Plants VS Zombies 2
Mods used:
Eclise Alpha
AltverZ
Nightcast
Fallen
Subtitles by / gdjosef , or Josef#8099.
In my primal brain, I love how nice it feels to put a plant all the way where the enemy spawns, and know it'll do good work.
Ha, nice choice of words
Primal Brain is my favorite plant from Jurassic Marsh. Much more useful than Normal Brain.
Yes
@@raydevente1122 very
@@raydevente1122 personally I like using Null brain more, but hey, everybody has their favourites
Iceweed, surprisingly enough, synergizes really well with fire plants, as his fire rate means that the second a fire plant thaws a zombie, it gets chilled again. It works especially well with inferno, as he pushes zombies back onto the iceweeds once they've walked off them. Loud plants stick together.
waht
@@kooolainebulger8117 It's a joke
@@yinghannong Not really. They just mean that its anti-synergy with fire plants is pretty inconsequential. Since they'll just immediately get frozen again anyway, so it doesn't really matter that they get unfrozen for a fraction of a second by fire plants in most cases.
I've always thought Spikeweed was extremely underrated I've seen some people even say it is one of the worst plants in pvz. But I think people who say it's bad or even it's alright have not gave it a good enough shot.
Or they think pvz2 spikeweed is the same as pvz1 spikeweed
Ballon zombie : what’s a spike weed ?
@@pablogomesoliveira2677 *ballon pops
Ballon Zombie: Oh
Well spike weed is not bad
It's just overshadowed by some other op plants
(Insert spike mint)
Spikerock in question:
I’m surprised this wasn’t mentioned:
You can plant spikeweed (and it’s variants) on flowers in “don’t trample the flowers” levels so that a zombie that walks over them won’t count as trampling the flowers
I'm pretty sure infinut also does it
waiiit really? that's life changing
So, in other words, the zombies can't trample your flowers if you do it first!
@@flameofthephoenix8395 Correct!
aint no way does that actually work?
Definitely an interesting take on dickweed. I always felt like he was quite the odd plant out when compared to the rest of the plants
I found you
@@ghastlyofficial4304 Ok
@@ghastlyofficial4304 ok
WHATweed?
@@EthanTheGamer77 on weed
For favourite plants in the franchise as a whole I'd go with:
Coconut Cannon- Very simple to use manual plant that has a very large impact in the field due to his pretty fast recharge, reasonable cost and really good base damage that can weaken any tough zombie enemy into something much more manageable as well as wiping dense zombie hordes pretty easily with the splash damage. He's also very fun to use in general. Would def use this as a gold standard for manual plants as well as heavy plants in general.
Lava Guava-Very potent insta that is pretty much a godsend on any level with freeze gimmicks. The lava pool it leaves can thin out very dense clusters easily as well as severely weakening tougher zombies, while also being pretty good at stalling Gargantuars if you immediately place Lava Guava in front of them. It also doesn't interfere with plants that inflict chill or freeze much like Snow Pea or Winter Melon like most fire plants, so that's a huge plus in my book. Very good insta overall that I'm surprised hasn't gotten much more traction before.
Hypno Shroom- This guy has way more potential than what most people think. Very useful early grave removal for levels that love spamming graves alot throughout the lawn as well as turning tanky zombies like Brickheads or Cone Mechs into very durable walls to protect your plants with while also pushing through weaker zombies without much trouble. Plus the plant food is just really funny
Coconut gun fires in spurts
I agree on Hypno
I agree on Lava Guava. It has moderately high burst damage to be used on mid lavel tanks and just enough overtime damage to temporarily deny an area. Very useful and versatile low cost option.
Coconut cannon makes everything feel like a minigame. An explosive one.
@A Memefied Pro E Gamer please actually read my paragraph on why I think hypno shroom is good
My favourite has always been puff shroom ever since I saw it in the first game. And I really liked the reworked mechanics of the second game. There’s not particularly any synergy, it’s just a really good and reliable plant for early game and you can just plant it for the entire game if you want since it really has no downsides (unless there’s a jester).
Scaredy-shroom is a close second though, it had really fun risk-reward mechanics, RIP.
Still hoping they add back scaredy shroom, although I'm practically lying to myself.
Puff shrooms are kinda busted in the first game,
Because of the low cool down time
And how early on you get it.
(It and Scaredy Shroom should've probably been switched)
@@BramLastname really good because 1 puff can kill a basic on its own for free giving you all of early game to yourself
@@Burger19985 yeah, they trivialize the early night levels,
However later on, it'd be a lit less broken because its recharge time can't keep up with the stronger zombies.
@@BramLastname Not really? You can beat every night level in pvz1 with nothing but puffshroom spam
Ice weed seems to synergize more with fire plants. With it just basically freezing the zombie as it gets un frozen. It seems to be less spike weedy and more stalling.
Weed
@@monkeyace2234 weedweed
@@RyantheEpic1st weedweedweed
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@@panduvandal weedweedweedweedweed
iceweed could be combined with fire pea shooter or wasabi whip because you can keep huge damage without losing your freeze slow most of the time.
wow thanks for your wisdom suction cup man!
Why not just use turkey pult or sticky rice or snow pea
And make em stuck on ice weed
@@qbertsandy1367 that works too
Thank you, my fellow Piemations brethren :)
How different is it from Sap Fling?
18:05 sweet potato(mainly bc of the design), ghost pepper(a really cool plant to use while not being extremely busted and not having some really stupid weaknesses), snow pea(THE definition of balanced.)
Interesting list.
Ghost pepper is kind of like a mix between cherry bomb and jalapeno and weaker versions of them. I do still like ghost
Along with ghost I also like rotobaga mainly because of design (I like the propeller idk why)
I think they are refering to snow pea from the PvZ2 mods. It gets better stats on vanilla PvZ2 but the seed packet system is kinda dogshit and the fact that it is a paid plant just adds fuel to the fire
I always liked ghost pepper since it couldn't be targeted
In original PvZ spikeweeds also pop the tires of the catapults. This only happens in last stand endless because that is the only place catapults and spikeweeds can exist on the field at the same time
+ survival endless
After leveling it up only once or twice, you only need one to kill a basic zombie, making it much more useful.
I think most people prefer to pretend that the PVZ2 leveling system doesn't exist.
@@underrated1524 You need to spend all your money in the game, or never touch grass to get decent results with levels in most plants. If a plant is only good when levelled, then is not a good plant. Not talking about spikeweed tho, its a nice plant
@@uruacufutsal1this is true
Its taken me 2+ years of casual playing to get my peashooter to lvl 5
(I dont no life. Thats for beat saber and terraria)
@@pg28That sounds like a you problem, to be honest. I got him to level 6 in less than a month in by doing daily rewards and buying the starter plant piñata for 2000 coins they offer when you tap "search more" on the tutorial plants.
People think Spikeweed is weak for being unable to kill a basic zombie by itself, but it actually is REALLY strong, being able to deal a significant amount of damage over a singular tile along with group dps, and synergizes VERY well with stall plants. Puff Shroom is also strong, packing similar punch to a Peashooter but over a much shorter range.
18:05 Cherry bomb. I always think of instant use plants in Vinilla as plants that supplement and support good defenses and Cherry Bomb does that really well. A flat 1800 damage in a 3*3 area is also surprising versatile whether you want to destroy a dense horde or target some special ones in the back.
Ok but you can honestly use entirely instants and stalls in vanilla. Some plants are even seemingly designed for such setups like thyme warp
Never thought I would watch an 18 minute video about spikeweed. Well done
as a spikeweed fan myself, i felt really seen and validated by this video
i would have spikeweed as an auto include half the time when i played pvz1 (especially outside of story) and i'd never imagined that people would actually think it's bad
I want to say, Ultomato seems to work fine in the mods I've used it in, those being GT and ITS. It's probably one of the better modern plants for modmaking.
In GT, it's actually a really solid earlygame plant and has very good synergy with Escape Root.
In ITS, it's a REALLY strong lategame plant that had to get nerfed a couple times to stop it from completely dominating levels, but it feels like it's in a well-balanced spot now.
As for my favourite plant, it's a toss-up between Zoybean and Infi-nut.
What is ITS?
@@jimmyjohnjoejr Into the Storm, it's a PvZ2 mod where waves progress automatically rather than based on the damage you deal to the zombies.
@@Milesprowerthegamer ah I see. That sounds interesting honestly, as stalling early waves with potato mines does get old after a while. Haven't played a lot of modded pvz, since eclise's later updates and its community kinda burned me on that. But recently I started altverZ and it's been pretty fun, so I've been looking for mods to play. Any other recommendations?
Hypno shroom is a cool plant to me. Having the enemies attack their team instead (or something like zoy bean) is cool in my opinion
I like it’s synergy with Winter Melon. Doubling up on the AOE damage is pretty nice, and the slowdown helps the Spikeweed. Then, throw in an instakill plant like Toadstool, and it’s all set to go
My favorite has been Endurian, partially because he’s a combo plant that isn’t too bad in other eras, but also because he’s just fun to watch as he stares in all directions looking for things to do. It might be simple, but I love it
And he pairs well with Spikeweed!
18:03 When I played cracked vanilla I've had my fair share of favourites.
Electric Currant with Garlic. Divert zombies in the second and fourth lane and fry them up. Also pairs quite well with the three weeds mentioned in the video, especially with Iceweed or any slows and stalls in general. Rotobaga or Starfruit also make for a great mid lane.
Another one was Celery Stalker. Without the cracked upgrades I thought that it was useless and it kinda was BUT. It deals high enough damage to be viable and also has quite a bit of HP to stall the crowd. Overall I like letting the whole level pass through only held back by the Thyme warp and then spam the Stalker and its PF to fill the level and watch as the crowd just... disappears.
Another one was the Banana. Basically a miles better Cob Cannon. Faster reload, shorter fire-hit interval, great damage, what else does a plant need? Well, maybe some sun production.
I love Kernal-pult more than any other plant in the series. Coincidentally, Spikeweed/Spikerock work pretty well with it.
Dandelion is a close second, thanks to its reach and (small) aoe attacks.
I also want to give an honourable mention to the BeeShooter from the defunct PvZ adventures, and the Caramelpult from the original version of PvZ3.
Yes more corn gamers. I love corn guy so much
corn but woman
corn gamer
@@t0ny.g611I love using Kernelpult and spikeweed together. Throw in the holographic potato and a few instas (and maybe wintermelon, just for good measure) and your golden
Just want to say the clarity of your voice in this video was *much* better than normal, very appreciated and very epic.
Also cool video, I too can enjoy the role spikeweed has as a reliable "filter" for various zombie types... when there's no gargantuar that is
I've actually used Iceweed, and I'd like to input my thoughts, as I think it's actually pretty interesting.
Firstly, and most obviously, stalling a zombie above a Spikeweed will allow Spikeweed to do more damage.
Secondly, however, there's the synergies that Iceweed's chilling effect presents:
-Bonk Choy has a greater time window to punch chilled zombies before they reach it.
-Primal Peashooter can keep chilled zombies trapped on Iceweed by applying repeated knock back.
-Melon Pult can do splash damage to a dense clump of chilled zombies. Worth noting that using Melon Pult and Iceweed is cheaper than using Wintermelon and Spikeweed.
You aren't using it as a staller to slow zombie progress, but instead, you're using it as a staller to make zombies vulnerable to things that can either kill them or to things that do a better job of slowing zombie progress.
I definitely recommend giving it a shot, should you get the chance. It's got a lot of potential.
18:05 Hypno-Shroom (ive aways got sad about how weak he is, but his design and concept are amazing), Ghost pepper (strong, great design, no flaws), Turkey pult (even tho i never had him, i love his design and his mechanic), Tiger grass (hes kinda weak but i love felines and hes cute), Lightning reed (hes weak too, only use to counter chickens, but hes a pretty nice plant), Winter melon (idk i just like him), Doom-Shroom (sad that he didnt got into pvz2, hes strong as heck) Starfruit (He aways help me, nice concept) Bowling bulb (he got a lot stronger with tiering, also he has a fun concept) Banana launcher (Hes cute, strong, etc)
ok thats a lot of text, im just gonna say it here if nobody wants read above:
HypnoShroom,GhostPepper,TurkeyPult,TigerGrass,LightningReed,WinterMelon,DoomShroom,Starfruit,BowlingBulb,BananaLauncher.
HYPNO NOT WEK
I also love hypno-shroom and ghost pepper
Wtf lightning reed is op af. U only use one lightning reed to take a zombie or what? Do u know reed is a gang up plant. It works in multiplication, the more reed u plant, the more op and deadly it is.
Also i think u don’t upgrade it enough. U have to upgrade it atleast lvl 3. Pretty op from lvl4/5 where it starts to have 28 damage and starts to multiply it’s damage on crowd zombies. The more the zombie the more damage it deals‼️
Also reed is cheaper. Lvl4 cost reduced to 100
And can counter any zombie. Immune to jester and excavator
WINTER MELON AND REED COMBO can counter any zombie
@@alcatraZ___444 but every plant is op when u spam it
As someone who actually got Turkey Pult, the plant in itself feels really awkward to use. When I use it, it kind of just feels like a worse Zoybean and doesn't really do much but function like a cabbage pult with chip damage. It's ability to stall gargs is decent, but it's just so mediocre in practical use
Favourite plant? Lightning Reed, Red Stinger, and AKEE are first three that come to head.
I have not played any mods, but the Reed is just fun. _Plain joy,_ to pick. When I played vanilla pvz2, I time and time again chose Lightning Reed and spammed it, and see it wreck things
Stinger because it looks cool, is basically a gatling pea stat-wise (iirc) in closest 3 lanes to home, and unless there are excavator zombies/its frostbite caves, it's a great plant
AKEE just has that smile and I _love_ it. Plus I enjoy it's gimmick, sad however that it's not that good. I usually use it with the Stinger to cover eachother's weaknesses. *It's plantfood sucks tho in my opinion.*
I barely use spikeweed but recently I accidentally unlocked iceweed and I've been using it in like almost every strategy ever since. Also I like boom balloon better than banana launcher cuz I can just spam balloons everywhere and wait for zombies to touch it, meanwhile for banana you gotta look for the zombies tile and place and for faster zombies you gotta place it in front of them cuz of how long the rocket takes to land, and not to mention how expensive it is and how slowly the rocket comes back! My attention span can only handle so much.
My favorites, for some reason
-- Spikerock: ah yes, the chicken and weasel killers. I think that they are also really good at killing up to medium hp zombies, and also pretty easy to use
-- Twin sunflower: yes. I used Twin Sunflower, unironically. Don't ask why, but i guess having additional 25 sun made this more user friendly-ish, now considering the fact you have to 100% the main game now, not as an option anymore.
-- Ice Lettuce: zen garden buff made this essentially ice shroom, but free i guess
--puff shroom, also zen garden buff. Now can be (potentially at least) immortal!
Personally I really like using Spikeweed. Yeah, it does to things like Gargs easily, but it’s got some really good support value by clearing out weaker zombies like Imps, Browncoats, etc.
Favorite has always been Ghost Pepper. Loved the design, feels balanced and it has unique traits that really makes it stand out at the time, that also happen to fit the ghost theme it has. While I havent played much mods of pvz 2 lately, it seems that its also a plant that doesnt really change in gameplay much other than maybe a sun cost change (also it being able to be planted on other plants from that gameplay looks really interesting, fits the theme and looks it can applicated in unique strategies)
I like spikeweed because its one of like one passive damage plants, making it incredibly unique, and is basically the closest to invincible any plant can be.
"closest to invincible any plant can be"
infi nut
Ghost Pepper:
My favourite plant has and always will be iceberg lettuce, although I really dislike the levelling system. Iceberg remains as that one constant plant that just makes sense, it’s a plant that freezes on contact, and that’s it. I love its design and its simplicity, simply everything about it. Even the costumes
The two Eclise plants that you mentioned, I have made crazy fun strategy's with galumight and Crystal shroom
galumight is a great instant version of garlic saving you if you have a lack of defence in one lane, and can be a vary powerful zombie stall, as well as a general manipulation tool
Crystal shroom has value in being a great group stalling tool, has great synergies with what was an anti-synergy for other plants, like fire, knock-back, other types of stall, it's vary well rounded with the weakness of that one effect unlike other stallers.
Chrystal shroom is the discount stall version of the winter melon.
Which to be fair stall is an important strategy in eclise.
another plant you can pair with this is pvz2's current torchwood.
the fire dmg when near + lane wide dmg upon defeat will prove to be enough to kill a group of cone heads or even some bucketheads. the only problem is its durability compared to some defensive plants. it only has 2000 compared to durian's 3000. plus torchwood can only do 10 dmg at close while durian can do 20 dmg at close. but due to the lanewide defeat, it could be a strong temporary offensive shield when you need to create a stronger defense.
My favorite plant would be the Kernel-Pult. Getting the lucky butter to freeze the zombie in place for a short amount of time was so rewarding as a kid, especially when you would get multiple butters in the row. I feel like it's balanced, both with the luck aspect and the fact that the kernel attack probably does less damage than a cabbage or a pea
The kernel only does 1/2 damage of a pea/cabbage/butter.
In the base game, I almost never removed Potato Mine and Iceberg Lettuce in my lineup all the way to Modern Day. Using them to delay the first few zombie deaths is so good if you can afford the 2 slots. By the time I place my first defensive plant, I already have a full column of max sized Sun Shrooms.
My favourite has always been puff shroom ever since I saw it in the first game. And I really liked the reworked mechanics of the second game. There’s not particularly any synergy, it’s just a really good plant for early game and you can just plant it for the entire game if you want.
Scaredy-shroom is a close second, RIP.
I haven't used iceweed too but I think it's good to use with plant attackers that doesn't have ice or fire but there are torch zombies or fast ones
Btw I don't like plants you have to manually use to attack but boom balloon is way better than banana launcher or the ice copy
@@rorusvalorenduda1503 lol "ice copy". accurate description
i swear, i tried iceweed and it's ASS. The damage is sooooo bad, even with the fact it slows zombies the damage is horrible. It has trouble killing a browncoat, when spikeweed can kill a browcoat with ONE tile, and spikeweed isn't that strong itself! If you want to slow zombies why tf wouldn't you just use winter melon?
Iceweed looks like they tried to make a 1 plant combo,
It has a lot of features but isn't good at anything.
@@BramLastname If i ever made a pvz1 mod i always thought it would be interesting if we got a aquatic version of spikeweed, maybe it could do higher damage against aquatic zombies if placed on water, meanwhile on land it could have reduced damage, then i would replace spikerock to basically be similar to the aquatic spikeweed but in the opposite, working better on land and still being good on water but more on land.
major reason i say pvz1 is because pvz2 or even mods really don't use water a lot.
This is really interesting take on such mediocer looking plant, it makes me want to use it more 👍
Also my favorite plants are Corn pult, Iceberg lettuce and Lightning reed
I think spike weed is extremely usefully in certain levels and against certain enemys
“Simple to understand, doesn’t have any inherent complexities, but can be used in complex ways.”
Exactly what should be strived for. When designing games, we tend towards making the overall design complex instead of making the strategies around them complex. I’ve fallen into that trap at least once.
But when we make a design intuitive, and instead build upon it with interesting ways to use it, we get great design. We get Spikeweed.
Someone tell me why I kept on pressing the suns on the screen smh
you’ve been playing pvz for too long please take a break
I honestly like this plant too!
It really helps especially in pvz1 when it comes to the vehicles
Red stinger is temporary, spikeweed is eternal.
18:05
(just some of them)
Bonk-Choy: he is reliable, has good damage, good cost for what he does, and his plantfood is cherry bomb but looks cooler.
Outclassed by newer plants? Yes, but... who cares?
Zoybean: I just really like this little bean, while he might not be that unique as he servers as a permanent Hypno-Shroom and a more reliable Caulipower. He is still a really cool plant that I really like. Even though he ain't the most original.
Celery Stalker: he is a sneaky Bonk-Choy, and I really like Bonk-Choy.
Also funny joke there PopCap, put a plant with "Stalker" in it's name just before the level where you send girl zombies.
Chomper: I always loved Chomper, since PvZ1, soo of course he is one of my favorites in PvZ2.
ToadStool? **** outta here with that cheap copy.
Thyme Warp: What can I say, this guy is a massive help.
lol theres no way the celery stalker joke was intentional
Thyme warp has crashed my game before so I decided to bench it.
My favorite part was when spikeweed said: "It's spiking time!" and spiked all the zombies, I cried and sobbed for 72 hours straight because of how revolutionary it was, truly a work of art!
Agree
Bruh.
Probably Kernel-pult - I simply just love the idea of throwing butter
Spikeweed/rock/Iceweed can also be used as a really good prospector counter in the back with pumpkin, because if it flies to c1 and you have a row of pumpkins and spikeweeds down, they still attack and take care of them before they can kill all your plants, sorta like a weird and probably worse endurian.
Iceweed is just good at shutting down prospectors (and torch zombies) period, as long as you can keep iceweed in the first two rows of every lane they pretty much shut down prospectors gimmick. I would prefer Wintermelons in the back, but the weekend is so much cheaper and easier to set up
If ya use ice weed then ya basically got chilldurian, aka cold endurian.
my favourite plants are probably ghost pepper and snap dragon, probably leaning more to ghost pepper because of its versatility.
in pretty much any level that i can i'll often use 2 lines of snap dragons, a line of walls and then spikerock and instas(mainly ghost pepper) for support.
seeing walls of fire delete the zombies just gives me dopamine. is cold snap dragon better? yeah, probably. but honestly i've never used it, haven't played any pvz 2 mods or anything and i'm just going off of when i used to play pvz 2.
maybe i should try out mods, but i'm not sure i want to dedicate too much time to a game i used to enjoy. i mean i still would like to enjoy it, pvz was a huge part of my childhood, but the games have simply just been ruined over time
My favorite plant is definitely ghost pepper. A weaker multilane spikeweed that is unkillable and explodes after a while really intrigues me.
Love this plant, spike rock especially. I love a combo of winter melons and spike rocks.
As a casual, I like the combo of Bonk Choy, Wallnut, Spikeweed. I find that it does a really good job at dealing with hordes (at least on the earlier levels).
video should be titled "Why Spikeweed is weally cool", idfk why i just want it to be
Is "weally" a typo or is it supposed to be a weed pun?
@@TelPhi_ofc it's a weed pun, it's a really stupid one and i want it as the title
u must of been high on weed to think of that pun
@@NeoBing Ah lol okay then, it's so stupid that I didn't even think it was intentional
I'd call spikeweed one of the most consistently reliable plants. Will almost always find good use in any level (except big wave beach of course). Plus it's weaknesses are easy to deal with. Flying zombies? *Laughs in blover*
Gargs? That's what explosives and stuns are for.
Plus it's plant food is a great way to basically reset a lane in emergencies.
spikeweed is my favorite plant as well, and I'm glad it gets the recognition it deserves from you
VERY glad there are some more spikeweed appreciators out there
I always thought Spikeweed should have armor piercing, because how does a helmet protect you from what'd underneath
What emulator do you use?
i think bluestacks
Make more of these videos pls you only have like 6 I need to watch more. I don’t even play the game but I might now. Thanks for the amazing content.
I definitely agree, is my favourite early game plant - couple it with a wall plant and it DESTROYS
3:26 This clip has bothered me since I first saw this video. Flying zombies aren’t new. One of the flying zombies in PVZ2 is literally taken from PVZ.
I'm seething with rage over what's really just a smal meaningless mistake, scouring the comments for anyone else who felt the same lol
I would kill for a video about sun producers and how good they are + comparing and usage
Honestly it'd be a fun video but a veeeery difficult one to make, due to every mod's sun meta being different, but it could be interesting to see at some point.
I used to avoid using spikeweed before but recently after seeing the consistent damage it can do at the front lines compared to usually having nothing there, i find myself using it more and more, so i understand you having it as a fave
"A new type of zombie in flying zombies"
*Sad balloon noises*
I’m curious of your opinion on celery stalker as I find it sharing many synergies with spike weed such being paired with stalling plants as well as plants like wall nut but it speacializes on dealing better single target damage instead of area damage but is also cheaper and leaves itself vulnerable while attacking
Celery is a good plant. Thats about it, I don't feel strongly on it, but its pretty fun in a lot of strats.
Most of ur arguments piss me off, sure some I agree with but why go all snobby at the viewer and say like “blank is SIMPLY better” or just manipulate the audience. It’s kinda shitty
I liked using spike weed in PvZ 1. It thought it was really unique, and usually those were the plants I went for. The spike rock upgrade made it feel even cooler to use when I was a kid lol
turkeypult and stickybomb rice make a deadly combo though, being able to easily deal with gargantuars.
I always liked how spikerock/double spikeweed can kill basics/imps easily, I've seen interesting modded levels where zombies spawn in huge bunches, spikeweed makes an interesting counter
It’s so “cool” they have to make Iceweed
BRO THE ICEWEED IS LITERALLY OUT OMGGGGGGGGG
I never used Spikeweed/Spikerock in the first game, but after trying it out in the second, I LOVE it. I honestly don’t even have a reason for liking it, I just do.
Magnifying grass, really puts emphasis on reasource management and gives you a gun in exchange
I don't even play PVZ and love your vids, they are just so interesting. Keep it up!
My favourite strategy involves mostly spiky plants. I love using endurian with the stone variant of spikeweed. This strategy is also really good against gargantuars because you can make it constantly strike one plant as you refresh it while being hit by another one and having two bonkchois on each side hitting it too for huge dps. I also like placing a ton of spikeweeds and teleporting all the zombies back to the start to have them walk over it again.
I love how spikerock's Gigantiar tank works in both pvz 1 and 2
Honestly my only complaint of spikeweed and spikerock is that It can be a fair bit hard to see, especially when huge hordes come along
I’m so glad other people understand just how good spikeweed is. It and spikerock have become a main staple of most of my loadouts for pvz2 solely because they’re great additional damage for fairly cheap.
There's so many plants to choose from that it's going to be hard for me to have a favorite one since I never had favorites in the first place
I haven't played PVZ2 (and I'm still debating if I should), but I really liked spikeweed in PVZ1, it was just fun seeing all of the zombies die before even reaching the second lane, or infront of wallnut.
Idk, I just like it.
I have never played plants vs zombies and stumbled upon this channel by accident so i have no idea what this guy is saying but i like it!!
As a fellow spike weed enjoyer I would agree
It's always interesting to see things like this pop up in my youtube feed. I never realised that PvZ had such a serious meta.
I actually really like Red Stinger. It's a cool looking design, and I like how it does different things based on placement. Sure, it's not the best plant out there, but I really like how it changes your strategy. Getting it in vanilla PvZ 2 for the first time was my first experience with pushing my sunflower lines forward.
Spikeweed is so cool in PvZ1. When I first saw the trail of tears strat where you place garlic and a bunch of gloom shrooms in lanes 2 and 4, and then spike weeds everywhere else, my mind was blown.
Two spikeweed, a tallnut, and a chomper was my favorite frontline in PVZ 1. You can't use it often, but when you can it's so satisfying!
Electric Peashooter, Iceberg Lettuce, Power Lily, and Primal Sunflower are my favorite plants 💛 They're adorable and useful
balloon’s gimmick is to stack balloons onto 1 tile for the same damage as cherry but i only got “use” from it once when i placed a balloon in preparation for a football zombie and misclicked on the same tile with a second balloon
I don't know about the mods, but in the og version, Red Stinger is an offensive and defensive plant. The reason why his offense is reduced when placed in the middle three tiles is because he becomes more defensive while also doing the damage of a peashooter. And when he clapses both leaves together, he becomes entirely defensive. This doesn't have much of a purpose other than being a faster loading walnut.
I like that you can beat several levels with just spikeweeds in every spot
This is coming from someone who play vanilla Pvz2, so this some of my choices may be biased.
My favorite plants are easily Dusk Lobber, Cold Snapdragon, Torchwood, and Mega Gatling Pea.
On its own, Dusk Lobber is a middle ground between Cabbage-Pult and Melon-Pult, having the damage of Cabbage-Pult but the 3x3 splash damage of Melon-Pult. It's basically Pepper-Pult but actually good. When powered by Moonflower though, it goes fucking batshit insane. When powered, it can now also fire in the lane above and below the one it's planted in like Threepeater. Each bud still has splash damage too, meaning just one Dusk Lobber has the potential to deal damage in all five lanes!
Cold Snapdragon, while it is unfortunately premium, is an amazing plant. It's literally just Snapdragon but ice, meaning it also chills zombies when attacking, effectively doubling its damage. They're the same cost as Snapdragon so they're just a direct upgrade. Being able to chill zombies in such a large area for such a cheap price is amazing.
Torchwood was buffed a about a year or two ago and now has does burning damage to zombies that eat it, has the same HP as Endurian, and basically become a weaker Jalapeño upon death, in addition to its standard ability. Turning peas into fireballs is just fun too.
Mega Gatling Pea is just so fucking broken, and I love it. Pair them up with Torchwood, slap on some Pea Vines, throw in Appease-Mint and congratulations you're now on a government watch list because you've just officially created a weapon of mass destruction!
Spikeweed was one my favorite plants to use. I just really like this style of creatures in this kinds of games.
I still remember that one last stand pirate level that I had a lot of trouble with before realizing I could just plant a ton of spikeweed and win instantly
in case anyone's wondering why it works, it has a bunch of imp cannons and no matter where the imps land (since they have a limit to how far they can fly) they will never make it to the end of the lawn-ship-thing
Another thing about spikeweed: you can plant it on top of the flowers that you can’t let the zombies trample, so they can walk over it.
Iceweed is one of my favorites in reflourished, feels like spikeweed but more reliable, but due to its higher cost there's still a lot of situations where you prefer spikeweed. And unlike other ice plants it works fine with fire plants
18:05 bowling bulb! The more enemies the better, and the fact that i play on vanilla and have never spent a single cent in the game makes it one of the best options against large hoards
Spikerock was my favourite PvZ 1 plant,
Using it with Tallnut and Cattail was just very satisfying.
18:05 my favorite plants are: cold snap, spikerock, endurian, laser bean, bowling bulb, cherry bomb and sun shoorm
I know I'm incredibly late, but personally I'd say my favorite plant may be Parsnip or Hurrikale.
Sure they're not the simplest, but they’re consistent. They make a big impact in the lane they're in, yet still leave enough room for frequent use cases.
Parsnip is a little more demanding in terms of strategy, admittedly. Parsnip's heavy damage, decent price, fast recharge, and last-ditch attack down the lane make it good for putting on almost any frontlines, protected or not. As long as they aren't instakilled, you can be certain that a Parsnip will guarantee anything ahead in its lane will be really hurting, sooner or later.
Hurrikale essentially takes the entire lane's zombies and shoves em back to the right side of the board, while also slowing them to a crawl. Plus, doing this completely shuts down anything airborne in the lane too, which are usually faster than groundborne zombies, so that gets a bit more value out of the stalling. The instant use makes it a fantastic emergency tool, immediately relieving the pressure on one of your lanes for a good while.
And, I'll admit, I also just really love their designs and names, hehe
As a spikeweed enthusiast this video brings me joy
i actually feel this was with split pea, it just feels so underrated and can be used in many useful ways