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- The Orokin Towers are symbols of dominance and glory, testaments to the Orokin's mastery of space and substance. But as with many things the Orokin created, they harbor a dark secret. Bleeding flesh within their walls. But is the flesh so simple? Or could it be more familiar than we realize...
Finally somebody with theory that makes sense,not just wild speculations based of authors own fantasy supported by lore bits that fit it with rest left out.Wish you made more of these.They are on entirely deffirent level than other out there *Cough*DK and his "Everything must involve stalker because I love him" theories *Cough*.SO GOOD FUCKING JOB MATE.REALLY GOOD JOB!
This is so true lmao
Plus, I love how StallordD is very quick and concise with his discussions. If DK made a video like this, it would talk him almost 20 minutes; I don't hate DK, but the dude just goes on and on and on... and no offense, but his whole Stalker Family thing is a wee bit cringey.
Serious Smith I couldnt agree more,DK is like Lord of Cringe in warframe community,I too dont hate him but he could turn it down a bit.In terms of lore StalllordD is god compared to him.But lets not start a fire here.DK has his moments too,very few but still.
D G. DK is more personality guy. This guy had made a really good lore vid. I just subscribed.
Legend says if you wait in the towers, The LordD will speak his gilded words
Praise be to Rell
*B O N E L E S S O R O K I N*
i would like my technocyte.... B O N E L E S S
Doesn't need bones. It has an exoskeleton. That's right... we're having Tower Bug Meat for dinner!
OBERON Music this is officially in my top 3 greatest comments ever seen on TH-cam
Cj Heinz :3
NO VEGETABLES
This guy nailed Umbra's creation before he was released!
Seriously
The LordD of Lore has returned!
And he doesn't fail to deliver an awesome lore-speculationI
ALL HAIL TO THE LordD
amen
Hail lore master
bsdacres amen to that
bsdacres lore give me orgasms
DE needs to just make a book about this lore. No fragments or whatever scattered about the game, just a simple, coherent, straightforward presentation of the lore, cause it seems like it's deep as shit, but other than the cinematic quests and various instances of quests to obtain warframes, the lore has almost no bearing on the gameplay at all. It's almost irrelevant. The game's story directly only insinuates that you're a space ninja made out of a combination of technology and flesh and you're controlled by a kid with weird powers and you're lead by a space mom and a weird ship AI that was actually once a person, and you're going around foiling a mega corporation of guys that make robot animals and a group of jacked up clones while watching out for mutant space zombies and giant squid monsters. Most normal players don't really know about any of this shit. They don't know who Ballas or Margoulis is.
Theyre doing what dark souls did, give us enough to make us want more, but never enough to satisfy us. It makes us keep talking about the game.
doing that would take out half the fun of playing warframe, lore hunting and speculation. Maybe once the game is at its end that would be a good idea, but as the story continues I look forward to having this ARG-style lore hunt.
Agreed
Yes! Thanks for some new What We Know! I love this series!
*played the Sacrifice Quest*
*comes here*
*GASP*
HE WAS CORRECT ABOUT UMBRA!!
I'm so confident in your lore skills that i hit like BEFORE watching the video.
Salvador Jacome same here lol
Salvador Jacome me too lol
I can't believe most of this guy's theories are really true.
I MISS YOUR LORE-CRAZED CONTENT MAN!
yeah! lordD is back
Maybe the Umbra are what the stalker is? As far as we know, the Stalker isn't piloted by a Tenno yet some human consciousness lurks within it, a weakness Hunhow scolds him for holding onto. Also human transference directly into a warframe body has been achieved before, namely when Titania was created. On top of that, not only was she able to ride Titania to the silver grove, the frame itself fought on its own with no pilot when the Dax came to destroy the grove.
Makorze the stalker was an orokin guard that survived the slaughter so he isn't a self piloting warframe but it is possible for warframes to maybe work on their own like that did in the second dream to save you from the stalker
@@kaiju9671 maybe he did the same thing that silvana did
I’m of the opinion that the Arboriforms are the same Derelict vines, but saturated with Void energy. The nature of the Void seems to be in the domain of living things, and these vines, as living things, are capable of transferring Void energy.
Exactly. It's never struck right with me that they were Infested, as it doesn't make much sense that the Infestation would just...die...
Not to mention they're mostly in the same places as the Arboriform in non-derelict tiles.
This really makes me want to read a high scifi novel about transhumanistic themes set in the Warframe universe...
Another possible interpretation of Ballas' monologue in the Sacrifice teaser is that he was talking to an unconscious Margulis after she was involved in the incident with the Tenno kids that left her "withered." He probably already knew what the other members of the Executor Council planned to do based upon that incident--scrap the entire project, kill the dangerous ZXO children, and either summarily execute or exile Margulis for her failings and for her disobedience in letting the children live in the first place.
He thought then of what she said she wanted, and made the choice to implore that her labor of love be spared, and she alone take the punishment for her actions and failings, arguing that while the children of the ZXO were terribly powerful, that power could still be very useful to the Empire in their war against the Sentient threat, if only they were simply brought under control.
In the end that's exactly what happened. Margulis faced death by immolation in front of the Council of Executors, but her children were allowed to live--turned into weapons for the Orokin Empire to use and then throw away (or so they thought)...but allowed to live.
It sounds like after Ballas took oversight of the Warframe project, he was still very bitter about the other Executors--as well as the Seven themselves--condemning his love to die...his eyes were opened to the depths of their cold corruption. He saw the fall of the Empire itself in the ever-growing strength of the Tenno. No force in the galaxy could contain them; not the Sentients, not the Infestation, not the Grineer nor the Corpus, and not their gilded masters who were still terrified of all the horrors they had created, but none more so than their most valued warriors--their last and greatest hope was also to be their doom.
Perhaps Ballas had a bigger role to play in the Tenno killing their masters than has yet been revealed.
theres probably a stalker connection in there somewhere.
Ultra Window I can imagine the stalker being like an evil, defected umbra maybe.. like that rhino prototype but actually smart
the second dream quest hints at stalker being a warframe who rejected his operator, completely denying who he really was and got filled with hate.
its too early to really tell what umbra is.
Ultra Window The stalker was a warframe who during the uprising rejected his transference with his Tenno resulting in him killing his tenno. This act shocked Stalker to his core, granting him a level of self awareness and consciousness, but it also twisted his original purpose, to serve. In his pursuit of self preservation via maintaining his original "programing", he took up the assassination contracts against us, partially to serve, and also to seek out a new tenno operator and to try to undo that for which corrupted him. In the Second Dream, we witness Stalker pause and seem to contemplate that for which he is doing. At which point HunHow declares Stalker too weak and using a fragment of himself to direct control Stalker.
thats a solid explination to him, but it also says that warframes have their own minds.
its not too absurd considering the technocyte connection.
We know he served the orokin in fact he is one of them maybe a similar accident to what changed the children happened to him after the orokin fall he was shaken"was i one of those wretched things the traitors?" his armor mixed with his flesh unable to take it off he was similar to a warframe,he then swore to avenge the Orokin by killing as many tenno as possible and many he did kill he went so far that he joined up with the sentients,they both seek one goal the destruction of the Tenno!
*HE IS ALIVE!!!!!!!*
I am a simple man... I see a new video from LordD, I instantly give it a like and watch it immediately.
Actually the rhino in the lore entry was a rhino prototype. The warframes originally were people infested with technocyte that could control void powers and using both they could control more void power than a non infested person whithout becoming totally infested. (hayden tenno kinds of infestation) These poor souls were captured b the orokin and converted into the first warframes or the warframes were originally advanced suits of armor at the time for peoples infested like thios and the orokin simply betrayed them in a simular manner to how the emperor of man betrayed the thunder warriors in 40k. Regardless, the end result was these people were surgically and cybernetically altered to be biomechanical meat puppets to the tenno. Hell, the prime warframes may still contain poor souls forcibly converted into warframes
*stallord uploads* holy shit!!!
It's so hard not to take the analysis of Stallord as fact. It's all very sensible and well-considered and he's been right in the past more often than not.
Pretty much nail on the head with umbra
I wish we could go inside the Tower in cetus
Well look at that...
@@ungabunga8380 dream do come true 😊
I wish in invasions you can side with the infested, if you have a helminth cyst or have nydis
for that to happen we would need a bigger entity that rules over the infested that is intelligent like lephantis but a step up
It could be possible that they could add a infested character that the hive tries to use to reason with people as a different approach to assimilate other and with that character you could side with the infested
oh, you mean infiested alad v.
Alad V is not very reasonable tbh, he doesn't reason with others he just DOES what he wants I was thinking more along the lines of a person who seems nice, sends you on missions gives you stuff like a like new loka, red veil but they are too support the infested
the infestation itself is not very reasonable and does not want to be. You were talking among the lines of wishing for the infested to have a more concrete avatar of their mind in the form of a person. Well... Infested Alad V.
New StallordD vi-*MUH DICK*
Fun fact
You can eat orokin towers
Because they are actually
Living creatures
Still waiting on a mission inside the one near Cetus, and for someone to explain why there are constant explosions occuring on it.
Cetus balloon crews are using explosives to remove sections of the tower's walls then harvesting the meat within.
David I fucking love you
More.
I need more.
Especially for Warframe.
i thought the flesh was tofu
Skitch Space tofu towers for the vegetarian Orokin
The sentient can also assimilate flesh as well...
So with the Umbra frames, would it be too far-fetched to assume that they are some kind of Warframes who managed to obtain a form of "free will"? Or could it be possible that the Umbra frames are "vessel" that are able to hold souls of a different being? I am willing to have a conversation on this topic
My opinion on the warframes is that whenever you use transference on them an imprint is left behind in the frame of your.. well.. being. And that given enough time inside of the frame it will gain sentience, but since the copy of the soul is yours it will stay passive. But what do you think would happen if your operator died and another tenno tried to control it?
(This is my personal take on it, there is a big chance that this is completely wrong.)
holy shit, I revisited this video after umbra was released, and DAMN
this guy got everything right!
this guy got everything right an entire year before it was released. are you sure u don't work at DE?
Coming back to this vid and hearing what you said about the Rhino codex and your speculation... You were spot on about Umbra.
They are full of tecnocite years ago I ran void missions and I found it amusing that the walls and trees would bleed when I struck them with my blade I have found that they still do when I am bored
You would make an excellent history teacher with your narrative skills
i wish we could get more umbra frames, such as umbra rhino or umbra mag
HOLY F*** you need to do narration for a living your voice is clean af lol
Thank you so much for these. I need to know so much more about the lore of this game. Honestly, I'm not even sure what *exactly* happened that the Tenno were put to sleep. All the lore I know is from your playlist that's all.
plz don't stop making these I really like this series >w
Startlingly accurate with your Umbra theory.
Yeah. Weren't the warframes some sort of golem that didn't work out until it was discovered that the tenno could interface with them?
Watching this after playing Sacrifice and it's awesome how on point you were on the nature of Umbra frames.
They should make these towers explorable ......
Your videos always give me goosenips
yes yes yes yes he is back!!!! !!!!!1111
You came soo close. Hope you make more.
you were almost completely right about umbra wowie
Your Umbra theory in this was spot on.
wait... tamed technocyte... that means...
they eat warframe guts?
btw i love the way you keep the things down to the facts, and research it, some people just... connect things to the stalker and make speculation over speculation...
so tower bacon tastes like warframe steak or infested ham, makes sense
Mmmm, charger bacon.
I kinda think that the orokin are still alive.
They where not called immortal for no reason after all plus it would be one of those epic twists^^
YES! LORE! AHAHAHAHAAA!!!
0:25 Excalibur: Oh hey an orokin wall.
0:28 Excalibur: heh wait wtf????
0:40 Excalibur: gross....
And you were right!
STALLORDD!!!!!
SIR!! I have a breach. I need help. Its coming... from the VOID
Man, I love how you present your theories in these videos. Great work!
oh that's why elevator panels bleed :D
askin askinn they bleed??
y, idk if it changed, didn't play for months..
I don't remember they bleed...
i know that the corpus movement detectors bleeds
What happened to Harrow and Rell, could've similarily happened to Umbras...
this is how warframe killed destiny. MEAT TOWER.
ALSO TUBEMEN
about Umbra and waht you said about them, I'm sure you know this but I'm just going to say anyway, Stalker is probably an Umbra, like in your stalker what we know video, it kinda ties. Also, Shadow Stalker's body details that are very much alike to Excalibur Umbra. With what you said about Excalibur umbra being individuals who do not posess void power, sacrificing their mind and body to become Umbra, aiding in battles when Tenno is not enough. It goes with what you said in the Stalker lore vide of yours, with Stalker not being a tenno but an orokin personnel who entered tranference.
impossible space? so its BIGGER ON THE INSIDE!? OROKIN WERE TIME LORDS CONFIRMED *nerdgasm*
idk if iv asked tis yet....but anyhow the HUGE ASS main tower in cetus...ish it even possable tuu get tuu it?? or in it or even near it?? and can it be done threw norm. play or rather by glitching 🙄 and if soo HOW???
Felt like I was watching a documentary on National Geographic. Nice job. I subscribed immediately.
ahhh man i love me some good orokin lore. I hope the orokin come back.
"Making small pockets of impossible space. Following that logic" WHAT LOGIC
I did send you a message in the warframe forums about my theory on what the Warframes are, but you might have not seen/forgotten about it. I pretty much also believe that, over time, with the warframes being made of living material and possessing a nervous system (possibly the equivalent of a brain), they have started developing a consciousness. Maybe not so much as be completely 'self-aware', but enough to start to move and act autonomously. Considering, however, how long we've spent INSIDE the warframes, controlling everything, being 'one' with them, it's likely the warframe considers the Tenno a part of itself -or itself a part of the Tenno.
If the Warframe is indeed built upon a clone of the Tenno themself, only infested with a Technocyte variant, as I theorize, to make the link between Tenno and Warframe stronger, it would stand to reason why it takes 3 days after having all the parts of a new Warframe to get access to it; you need not only create a clone, but also develop its nervous system and get used to controlling it. It would also point as to why we need to buy Warframe Slots; maintaining hibernating clones of ourselves takes space and effort.
Even Rhino Prime codex entry could allow for this; after having been 'one' with us for so long, the sudden and instant loss of its operator (possibly through violent means) would be... traumatic to say the least. And when any animal is traumatized, they react violently.
As to the living towers; even now scientists are researching biological computers. Literal 'circuitry' imprinted on things such as DNA or nervous systems. Living computers so to speak. So creating masses of flesh specifically made to substitute for gigantic hypercomputers? Possible -logical even. Considering the amount of calculations that would be required for the creation and maintenance of an 'impossible space' as well. Not to mention how to control and direct the Void Energies -which we know to be rather violent- so as to not be obliterated by the Void itself. Without enough 'IT Support', the tower would slowly begin to malfunction -creating these hyperagressive towers in the void, as well as the 'cancerous' growths in the Derelict.
Theory: What if the Prime Warframes we have represent different colors because of their nature regarding the Light and the Umbra. Exalibur Umbra is black and as you suggest, sentient. Rhino Primes codex suggested it was sentient as well, and as you guess, it is also primarily black in default color corresponding to the theme.
What if the Light (white), Umbra (black) and then 3rd element (grey) like in Vauban Prime or Oberon Prime all represent the very same compass that the players get to make moral decisions on trough out the quest and that they represent the nature and choices of players. What if they are all connected?
You're actually correct on the technocyte. I mean, it's never outright confirmed but the idea that the Orokin mastered nano-robots so perfectly that they began making techno-organic "living metal" analogues to biology is the only answer that really fits in with what we know of Warframes, Infestation and now the Towers. Keep in mind that Helminth, Lephantis, and the Twin Queens confirm the long-standing theory that Warframes are made of infested flesh.
Has anyone ever played the game called Quantum Theory on PS3? Orokin towers remind me of the towers in that game. I would say Quantum Theory story would happen right after the fall of Orokin.
First, glad to see you again : D
Second, probably like you that flesh into the orokin tower was what made me more interested and for "what we know now" I agree whit you
Third, for what we see in the chains of harrow and what you are saying about Umbra and the "Warframe whitout the tenno" i was wondering that stalker can easily be an example, to survive until now days and apparently whitout staying into the "reservoir" he can be one that "refuse" his 'tenno form'
(P.S. Sorry for my english... -.-')
ALL hail the LOR Master
The impossible space also explains the relics.
I think that normal frames still have a mind of their own, it is just that it is subdued or it allows us to control it. Valkyr Prime´s trailer says that the "Tenno tamed, but only just" the warframes and that they (warframes) still remain animals. Ballas also says at the end that they (warframes, not the tenno) will destroy them.
This COULD be what caused the downfall of the Orokin. Maybe the Tenno lost control of their warframe and the frames slaughtered the orokin leaders during the ceremony described on Stalker´s codex. They have plenty of reasons, can you imagine being used as a weapon while serving as a host for someone you don´t even know?
I get the feeling that the Orokin could control technocyte fairly easy, and the reason that the technocyte has spread wildly is entirely the fault of Grineer experimentation and/or corruption over a long period of time. As for the Umbra, I suspect they're just Cephalon controlled Warframes. Mind-transfer tech was pretty common in the Oro era. When someone who isn't Orokin (who have their own similar methods) is dying, they get a choice - die, or 'live' on in a Warframe.
Wish you uploaded more man, your vids are awesome. You should just remember, if you ever feel like your content is shit, you're NEVER a good judge of yourself. No one is. They either think to lowly or too highly of themselves. Your videos are amazing.
Not gonna lie...When I seen a new video was made I went and got insta-hyped...
If Eidolons are like an organic proxy, a big homonculoid golem, then that would make them like a precursor to Warframes and infestation, wouldn't it? These two strains of technocyte-based infestation branched off from this genetic ancestor. Perhaps the infestation began because Orokin forced a living tower somewhere to produce Eidolons at far too accelerated a rate?
Let's look at Lephantis. It was "Created to fight in the old war." Perhaps it was one of the first Eidolons to mutate into what we now refer to as an "infested."
Yay! I love these videos! Thanks StallLordD!
Also, perhaps the warframes have some sort of precept to protect their operator when in danger. Like a sentinel precept, but one that we can't get rid of.
With the revelation that the Orokin towers consist of both biological and mechanical components, there is another line of thought to consider in regards to the Neural Sentry. If the towers function as an organism unto itself, the Neural Sentry could be a technological form of immune system which acts less out of a conscious motivation and more by biological imperative. Much like white blood cells, the "face plates" could function to break down irritants (such as invading Corpus or Grineer) through assimilation into the greater immune system of the Neural Sentry. Entities such as Warframes which cannot be absorbed for whatever reason are treated as an invading bacterium or virus, spurring its proxies into action to try and destroy the alien contagion.
If we dont know much about umbra, and how StallordD explained his thoughts on what they might be. What if stalker is an umbra? I mean sure he was a tenno before. But he went mad because he was stuck in his frame. Or did he choose to be? O:
That Umbra theory makes me even more curious and lead me to a little speculation myself. What if an Umbras Tenno became one with their warframe and that's how an Umbra was formed? Then I slowly thought of melding the two ideas together, mines and yours that is. I also thought of what all Umbra warframes could be. I personally thought they would be assassins due to their restrictive gold triming which was traded for the black and more sinister, assassin look.
The best Warframe Lore channel on TH-cam, period. Your content is short, sweet and to the point, which is great. Please continue making videos!
Bout the same theory I and many others have had, and I love the diction you used to get it across. To me it makes the most sense, as other theories propose sacrificing ourselves, our link to the lotus, etc, which I can't see being feasible.I also like the mention of alternate strains of the technocyte virus. Since it's been stated our warframes are infested flesh, perhaps this could link to those sacrificed and the process they go under to become a Warframe. I'm sure Helminth and the uniqueness of the Nidus warframe has some place in there.
Man, I love how you like... actually script your videos and stuff...
Impossible space? Is it possible that the Orokin build within additional dimensions? So that if anything didn't fit, they just moved it across an additional plane where most cannot tread.
That's actually disgusting. :( Thanks for the weps, but no thanks Orokin.
Finally someone who knows what he speaks!
Thanks you for making this videos. I hope you have got all your insparation back!
The Umbra Frames are supposed to be Tenno-less Frames and the one in the trailer was a mean MEAN one. Who else is supposed to be a badass, mean, hateful, Tenno-less Frame with similar armor and attachments but in a different colour?
The Orokin structures being made out of flesh is really fucking disturbing, I didn't pick that up from the trailer for some reason.
As always, great video. Wil youl be doing some stream soon, StallordD ? I would like to see some more of your work, heh I need some inspiration :D
You make Warframe's lore sound sooo much more interesting than "other youtubers" *cof DK *cof
Soooo we might have to fight our warframes for control because they start to have sense of self?
Cuz we are getting operator armour and weapons in the plains of eidalon update right? I know I might be totally wrong but idk
Hurrah, StallordD has returned! I thought it was the end... Man, am I relieved...
I have a feeling that Ordis's body got turned into umbra. It all was about kuva, and murder and him sacrificing himself. He even mentions that he was a sacrifice that needed to be made.
I'm glad you're back. Best lore videos and speculations that make sense, and a soothing voice.
So an Umbra Warframe is a mind permanently transferred into a frame? I think that is a good interpretation. Perhaps The Stalker is a failed attempt or semi-accidental occurrence of that.
I said this a long time ago that the umbra frames have lost thier light, the tenno. They are the shadow of what they used to be. The umbras are Warframes that lost thier operator but still have a will to exist and ability to function, like the stalker. But hey that's just a theory, a game theory! *Que music*
Why does every one say Umbras there is and probaly will only be one and that is Excalibur and he olny exist so people how cant get Excalibur Prime still get a chance to get a better version of Excalibur
wait so long
honestly id rather ditch my stupid operator for a self controlled umbra frame. i dont like being a little kid sitting in the back of my ship controlling the warframe.....