@@sneakycacti UE5 games on console? I mean... I can't think of a single "well optimized" ue5 game for console😂 But when i wrote that comment i was thinking about PC hardware. Also ps5 isn't necessarily 3060 level, there is huge variation in performance between games and engines, regarding ue5 rtx 3060 tends to smoke a base ps5 in both image quality and performance (in UE5)
@@sneakycacti The main problem is devs relying on in-engine optimization without fully understanding them. Main reason UE5 is used is because of the nanite technology that supposedly would have a lot more benefits than just basic LOD. However the channel threat interactive did a video on it and showed that nanite has worse performance than just basic LOD rendering techniques and works better only in a few occasion
Reason why devs said ban was a mistake in my opinion is because I don’t think it would look too good on them to ,,shame” their employee, it boils down to rights and relations between employers and employees I guess, still I’m glad they approached the situation this way and not like many other companies
8:23 you underexegerated there its not 400 bucks its closer to 1 thousand to 2 thousand bucks with those graphics cards, also looking at the leaked prices of the 5090 you can expect to pay 2.5k for a gpu 😭next generation
If the 5090 is to be 2.5k it better be at least 80% faster in raster and 150% faster in RT compared to the 4090, otherwise it's just overpriced garbage...
@ yea i know, im currently planning on building a 4080 super 9800x3d pc already got the gpu its 4k euros overall, the 5090 is like more than half of that who buys a gpu for that much, btw my 4080 was for 850 euros on ebay unopened i wouldnt have bought it otherwise either, these prices are a joke
I do think it was a mistake because they do mention the upscalers they used with those settings on Steam PC requirements for this game, so it's not like they are trying to hide it.
I think the game is going to be unoptimized like the original trilogy , it still sucks but I’m gonna put up with it since I’ve waited 15 years for this game (if the game is good ofc , if it’s bad instant refund) .
Pretty sure they confirmed it being upscaled (I think) and unbanned everyone already as well as taking full responsibility for that moderators actions.
I'd like to point out that Satisfactory is in UE5 and it runs fine even on an RX-580. I don't think it's an engine problem, I think it's a lazy dev or impatient/callous publisher problem.
What I'm wondering is why the fuck are people sucking this game off and excusing the fact that this game is a broken mess when cyberpunk 2077 wasn't excused even though it had good gameplay, a good story, and looked good
9:00 graphics are not matter the gameplay is like really stop this not anyone can afford this kind of hardware and hardware isn't that much advanced either especially if we are talking about UE5 titles this obsession must be stopped and ofc they'll say "but but but the gwaphics dude they are so beautiful stop complaining and upgrade" sorry not anyone can or will spend on such an expensive hardware for just visuals if you care so much about visuals go watch movies and those who won't i hope you'll enjoy destroying your hardware and consoome it every time new hardware comes out good luck.
DLSS/FG doesn't bother me I have faith in GSC Games, but I did not Pre-Order. On the topic of this video Didn't Nvidia provide a chart with DLSS ON//OFF? I use a 3080 not a 4xxx card. My TV PC has a 1070x2 so it def needs any optimization I can get..
85fps at 1080p max settings is not a gpu limit it’s a cpu bottleneck. The 4090 gets 85fps the 4080 gets 84.4 fps and a 4070 Ti Super gets 83.8fps. At 1080p you aren’t even close to maxing out the cards. Minecraft is also a cpu bottlenecked game where having an amazing gpu don’t mean shit. You could have a 4090 with an i7-7700k and you’ll get like 55fps at 1440p. Notice how all the data was with 1 CPU but with different gpu’s. The game is going to be a lot worse fps wise if u don’t have the 4090 of the cpu world 14900k or whatever they are calling it now. The “AI” the game uses for the npc’s works off your cpu and as they said the “AI” will always be working in the background even when your not there.
You should take into account the team working on the game are based in Kyiv, Ukraine. Cut them a little slack, A lot of them work on the game when they aren't defending their city from missile and drone attacks.
Well to be honest with you because I'm on Xbox I don't have to buy stalker too is going to be on game pass if I want to give it a try but I don't know if I want to I didn't really like how stalker one looked
I'm guilty of pre-ordering brand new games no excuses 😂🤣😂 Plus I like the pre-order bonuses I'm waiting for the bashing comments lol bring on the tomatoes lol
if ur on steam. i suggest waiting like 2 or 3 days before release if u really wanna preorder so u can get the bonuses because if the game isnt good or unoptimized u can always refund if ur below 2 hour and u wont be over the 14 day limit. thats what im gonna be doing with wilds.
im here playing with a old ass RTX 3060 laptop! iv recently gotten into metroidvanias completing hollow knight and right now playing blasphemous 2. games dont cost a lot plus i can run them 144 fps without worry lol.
To be honest with you in my defense all of my pre-orders was not bad vision zamana definitely was not a bad pre-order dragon Ball z sparking zero so all of my pre-orders was good oh yes in the soul reaver collection so if I want to get criticized at least I did make good purchases so people don't criticize me too bad 😂🤣😂🤣 That's one thing about me at least I'm honest I don't fake but to be fair on this channel I've been said I was going to pre-order dragon Ball z sparking zero Phyllis don't hurt me too bad lol 🤣😂🤣
I’m really sorry to say this, but looking at your content further, I would say that it’s pretty hypocritical to criticise people for meat-riding when you meat-ride yourself, l’ve searched your entire catalog and barely any of them critique PC, you got a clear bias. And also, not everyone is wealthy enough to afford a gigantic Powerful gaming PC. Consoles are efficient cheaper alternatives to PC, Who gives a shit if hardware is more underpowered.
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I think the current hardware is ready for UE5, it's just the devs are irresponsible and nvidia is scummy...
but how many games run 60fps on console (around a 3060 gpu) without FG or DLSS?
@@sneakycacti UE5 games on console?
I mean... I can't think of a single "well optimized" ue5 game for console😂
But when i wrote that comment i was thinking about PC hardware.
Also ps5 isn't necessarily 3060 level, there is huge variation in performance between games and engines, regarding ue5 rtx 3060 tends to smoke a base ps5 in both image quality and performance (in UE5)
@@sneakycacti The main problem is devs relying on in-engine optimization without fully understanding them. Main reason UE5 is used is because of the nanite technology that supposedly would have a lot more benefits than just basic LOD. However the channel threat interactive did a video on it and showed that nanite has worse performance than just basic LOD rendering techniques and works better only in a few occasion
Digital foundry claims its a 6700 non xt 😭@@Gustaviustwinkelberry
Reason why devs said ban was a mistake in my opinion is because I don’t think it would look too good on them to ,,shame” their employee, it boils down to rights and relations between employers and employees I guess, still I’m glad they approached the situation this way and not like many other companies
Okay, gonna give this one a wide berth for a good long while.
I remember running stalker on an old shit box when I first started getting into pc gaming
8:23 you underexegerated there its not 400 bucks its closer to 1 thousand to 2 thousand bucks with those graphics cards, also looking at the leaked prices of the 5090 you can expect to pay 2.5k for a gpu 😭next generation
If the 5090 is to be 2.5k it better be at least 80% faster in raster and 150% faster in RT compared to the 4090, otherwise it's just overpriced garbage...
Dude that’s literally the entire price of a really good pc.
@ yea i know, im currently planning on building a 4080 super 9800x3d pc already got the gpu its 4k euros overall, the 5090 is like more than half of that who buys a gpu for that much, btw my 4080 was for 850 euros on ebay unopened i wouldnt have bought it otherwise either, these prices are a joke
I do think it was a mistake because they do mention the upscalers they used with those settings on Steam PC requirements for this game, so it's not like they are trying to hide it.
It's crazy that cyberpunk 2077 with path tracing is more optimized than some of these games
I bet I'm just gonna have to keep playing Gamma
You’re far better off.
What Cold one are you talking about I'm confused beer or soda
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We know devs use upscaling and frame gen as a crutch but this wide use of ue5 will just make the situation so much worse
Did you see Harman's most recent video about emulation?
I think the game is going to be unoptimized like the original trilogy , it still sucks but I’m gonna put up with it since I’ve waited 15 years for this game (if the game is good ofc , if it’s bad instant refund) .
I'm going back to old games
Pretty sure they confirmed it being upscaled (I think) and unbanned everyone already as well as taking full responsibility for that moderators actions.
Nvidia released fps charts that include both upscaling and non upscaling
I'd like to point out that Satisfactory is in UE5 and it runs fine even on an RX-580. I don't think it's an engine problem, I think it's a lazy dev or impatient/callous publisher problem.
What I'm wondering is why the fuck are people sucking this game off and excusing the fact that this game is a broken mess when cyberpunk 2077 wasn't excused even though it had good gameplay, a good story, and looked good
⚙️_⚙️ my live reaction to seeing the requirements for video games today
Average stalker new gen:
What did you expect, they're hohols 😂😂
9:00 graphics are not matter the gameplay is like really stop this not anyone can afford this kind of hardware and hardware isn't that much advanced either especially if we are talking about UE5 titles this obsession must be stopped and ofc they'll say "but but but the gwaphics dude they are so beautiful stop complaining and upgrade" sorry not anyone can or will spend on such an expensive hardware for just visuals if you care so much about visuals go watch movies and those who won't i hope you'll enjoy destroying your hardware and consoome it every time new hardware comes out good luck.
DLSS/FG doesn't bother me I have faith in GSC Games, but I did not Pre-Order. On the topic of this video Didn't Nvidia provide a chart with DLSS ON//OFF? I use a 3080 not a 4xxx card. My TV PC has a 1070x2 so it def needs any optimization I can get..
I have a 3060ti and I just avoid everything that has anything to do with epic, so I should be good.
85fps at 1080p max settings is not a gpu limit it’s a cpu bottleneck. The 4090 gets 85fps the 4080 gets 84.4 fps and a 4070 Ti Super gets 83.8fps. At 1080p you aren’t even close to maxing out the cards. Minecraft is also a cpu bottlenecked game where having an amazing gpu don’t mean shit. You could have a 4090 with an i7-7700k and you’ll get like 55fps at 1440p. Notice how all the data was with 1 CPU but with different gpu’s. The game is going to be a lot worse fps wise if u don’t have the 4090 of the cpu world 14900k or whatever they are calling it now. The “AI” the game uses for the npc’s works off your cpu and as they said the “AI” will always be working in the background even when your not there.
You should take into account the team working on the game are based in Kyiv, Ukraine. Cut them a little slack, A lot of them work on the game when they aren't defending their city from missile and drone attacks.
A shining voice in this horrible darkness. I refunded STALKER 2 btw, don't have time to fix their game lol
Well to be honest with you because I'm on Xbox I don't have to buy stalker too is going to be on game pass if I want to give it a try but I don't know if I want to I didn't really like how stalker one looked
I'm guilty of pre-ordering brand new games no excuses 😂🤣😂 Plus I like the pre-order bonuses I'm waiting for the bashing comments lol bring on the tomatoes lol
Yeah you should be careful with preordering games. Only preorder if you are 100% certain if the game will be good.
if ur on steam. i suggest waiting like 2 or 3 days before release if u really wanna preorder so u can get the bonuses because if the game isnt good or unoptimized u can always refund if ur below 2 hour and u wont be over the 14 day limit. thats what im gonna be doing with wilds.
@PremMajumdarVG I play on Xbox I can refund on Xbox also
@@ProjectionProjects2.7182 yeah I can always refund on Xbox if I don't like the game but I do agree
@@PremMajumdarVG Yes you can refund on PC you can also refund on Xbox you can't do that on PlayStation
im here playing with a old ass RTX 3060 laptop! iv recently gotten into metroidvanias completing hollow knight and right now playing blasphemous 2. games dont cost a lot plus i can run them 144 fps without worry lol.
In many areas Metro Exodus still looks better and runs pretty well.
And they claim that both the XSX and XSS will have 60fps mode…. Gonna be 240p upscaled to 1080p 😅
i love being silenced for criticising slop games
To be honest with you in my defense all of my pre-orders was not bad vision zamana definitely was not a bad pre-order dragon Ball z sparking zero so all of my pre-orders was good oh yes in the soul reaver collection so if I want to get criticized at least I did make good purchases so people don't criticize me too bad 😂🤣😂🤣 That's one thing about me at least I'm honest I don't fake but to be fair on this channel I've been said I was going to pre-order dragon Ball z sparking zero Phyllis don't hurt me too bad lol 🤣😂🤣
Dragon ball doesnt have a bad track record from my limited knowledge
@@sneakycactiYeah it's really good
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I’m really sorry to say this, but looking at your content further, I would say that it’s pretty hypocritical to criticise people for meat-riding when you meat-ride yourself, l’ve searched your entire catalog and barely any of them critique PC, you got a clear bias. And also, not everyone is wealthy enough to afford a gigantic Powerful gaming PC. Consoles are efficient cheaper alternatives to PC,
Who gives a shit if hardware is more underpowered.
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