African Americans Talk Too Much in Tanzania| Ep. 141
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- We are back with another great episode with Kenganda. Again we are blessed to have brother @markmeetsafrica who is here in the building with us once again. We will be discussing how African Americans tell all of their business to Local Tanzanians. African Americans discuss their trauma in the United States with locals. This information is usually not well received by the local Tanzanian community leading to apathy. Due to this information, African Americans are often taken advantage of.
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Oshay, your growth is undeniable, bigggg positive!
@@reginaldwest9755 thank you soo much!
Let's get some more coughing and throat clearing DIRECTLY into the mic about 200 more times because the first 100 didn't sufficiently blow the eardrums for those of us listening with headphones. Don't you ever think of pulling away the mircrophone to clear your throat, no, please keep it directly up in your mouth so we can get MORE, not less, of that wonderful loud phlemy vibrations going down your mucus-filled throat. Don't ever stop eating dairy or we would miss all this.
I want to be like Mark when I grow up…The only problem is he’s 22 and I’m 50…🙂
😂😂😂😂😂
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You are a sucker. 😢
It is a spiritual growth and you are never too old to grow.
I feel the same as you about Mark and I am older than you.😊
Great dialogue. Mark is such a wise and intelligent young man. Thanks for having him on.
JPM made a great impact in Tanzania... even all across Africa. My He Rest in Power 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🌹🌹🌹❤️
I am a Nigeria, and boyy this guy truly understands us. especially with the not-talking about problem out loud. we can be very secretive. and there is definitely good and bad side to it... but you will also understand that its internet and social media age,.. its not about Black Americans talking too much, but its about things going viral and whatever happens in America usually goes viral around the world.. But this guy is super smart
That’s why Africa in the state that it’s in now . Now moral compass . It’s tribal . That’s why you can’t get control of your democracy. Democracy is based on protest and tabling situations for solutions. Y’all just tribal and full of proverty
Yea I have definitely learned that with Africans its very easy to take something to the grave
Something I really had to adjust to
It’s lowkey motivating though
The way Africans can contain so much internally without speaking and continue on
A skill I think everyone can learn from
It is very toxic in family situations. It can Harbour hate..
Mark has so much wisdom for such a young age. He's an asset to any community he lives in.. 🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪
That's open to interpretation
7:17 he’s spot on about people following their leaders. In haiti very few people smoke to this day because Duvalier and Aristide both promoted anti smoking
fascinating
I don't mind that one at all. Let's keep it going lol
You Gotta Love Mark's Genuine no filter Honesty! Another Great show Guy's
This gentleman Mark is deep thinker and goes to the ground to pick up every truth. I love his analysis line.
Thanks guy for bringing mark back ❤❤
i always look forward to listening to mark, he is just cool, polite and has taken his time to understand African and the people
Mark is always such a joy to behold...
00:00 - Introduction, comments on Tanzania's mentality.
01:16 - Issues with repat community in Tanzania.
02:53 - Arguments African-Americans face in Tanzania.
03:55 - Tanzania pre/post Magufuli's era.
05:37 - Diaspora's attraction to Tanzania.
07:36 - Cultural changes post-Magufuli.
08:43 - Tanzania changes after leadership shifts.
09:50 - Magufuli's knowledge of African diaspora influx.
11:05 - Advising African-Americans on African behavior.
13:17 - African-Americans, positivity, progress focus.
15:16 - Societal structure, oppression in Africa.
16:14 - Personal vulnerabilities in arguments.
17:13 - Addressing biases, confronting generalizations.
18:12 - African Americans not legally "diaspora".
19:16 - Refugee status misconceptions.
20:15 - Cultural snacks, preferences discussion.
21:30 - Navigating foreign cultural dynamics.
22:42 - Earning respect in Africa, diaspora challenges.
24:44 - Connecting with diaspora, shared challenges.
26:23 - Empowerment, avoiding victim mentality.
28:21 - Adapting and thriving in Africa.
30:25 - Perception differences: America vs. elsewhere.
31:58 - African-American revolution stories, U.S. issues.
34:07 - Emphasizing result-driven approach in Africa.
35:41 - Tangible results, respect, attention.
36:41 - Addressing trauma among African-Americans.
38:13 - Personal growth stories, victim to victor.
39:10 - Access to credit, banking in America.
40:37 - Cash-based transactions in Africa.
42:29 - Trade-offs, efficiency versus freedom.
45:12 - Identification with LeBron, Beyonce; slave trade avoidance.
46:15 - Emphasizes mutual value; critique of diaspora's lecturing.
47:45 - Diaspora's perspective on African slave trade involvement.
48:49 - Mark's TH-cam and website promotion.
49:17 - Closing, contact, and social media details.
Yall stepped yall game up with this one way better than the first interview yall got deep into the issues instead of just letting Mark go off the whole interview. Plenty of back and forth engagement.
I am an American in the Caribean 40 years. I learned we talk too much we have an "I know I'm right attitude" walk into businesses without saying good morning. Get on a bus without saying good afternoon and we insult peoples intellegence without realizing it because we are full of propaganda that "We are greater because we are born in the USA! SURPRISE! the planet is FULL of really great deeply profound, WARM hearted people if we just listen and be kind.
Not if you are an American from the South. We are known for Southern hospitality.
I'm here for Mark and not the profanity. Mark is legit!
Yen Yang 😅
Grow up..there's nothing wrong with profanity.
Negroes always taking shots with their sorry asses
I was Happy/Surprised to Hear Joanita
Cussing along with Oshay......
Profanity is for those who lack proper communication skills. Level up!
📌 I'm Nigerian and I can say 100% This brother in the green needs to be a regular.
Mark is wise beyond his age… love this young men ❤❤❤❤
Mark is intelligent and very thoughtful about things.
What a podcast, very insightful and educative more black Americans need to hear this
Luv Mark he is smart beyond his yrs! Great interview!
Mark is so right about Tanzania. I wanted to go when Magufuli was in office. I was so impressed with him. I was excited. I had dealings there when he was alive and now I see the differences just like Mark said. The leadership set the tone. It starts from the top then goes down.
We have to work only with those who are for the progression of Black Africans, period!
Mark is a time traveller. Ageless. Can you please come to the UK and become Prime Minister. Please? Your wisdom is.....
Shouts to Oshay. Joanita.......
Following the behavior of one's leader is not unique to African countries, this is true around the world. It is why the Hitler-sanctioned Holocaust occurred. Also, today the US is a prime example; under Obama people behaved with more respect and courtesy, but under trump, people openly mocked and physically attacked those of a different race/ethnicity. And now infamous the US it's difficult to put the genie back in the bottle. People who engage in such behavior were just waiting for someone to give them permission to act on their baser instincts.
Very accurate!
Maybe true but a excuse! Study or read about mob violence?
@@twanacisse3950read about Jan 6th in the US too and see how a leader can influence his people.
Agreed
the attacks were there during Obamas presidency. It was during Obamas term that Black Lives Matter began
This was a great discussion. Thank you Oshay. Thank you cast. I learned something about going to Africa and I will be different from this point on.
Kenganda does a great job interviewing their guests. I am loving this Channel.
Beautiful dress on the African Sis. ❤🙂🔥🔥💯💯
Please remember this important point: They never expected us to survive or come back to Africa. So what makes you think they really care about us?
😇God bless you Mark, thank you for sharing🕊❤💯
some Africans don't like africans . I have one girl from south Africa working in my company but she doesn't even greet her fellow africans but want to be freinds with only whites and Asians .. but asian and white girls new staffs when they come in thier energy is completely different with black girls . They don't take long to fit in . Africans have to learn to love themselves
Please call her aside and tell her off before she runs down your business when clients post negative reviews online.
Hers is a clear sign of inferiority complex. It's quite common in the service industry especially hotels and restaurants.
She's been raised to believe that dark skin is inferior to white and brown.
I think for me the reason why most Africans look like they don't relate to blacks struggle is because we feel still they have a better chance to succeed than us... What's bad to them we wish to have that any day...
@@nandorblueI agree but not the culture
That's ironic because Africans already got paid selling off black Americans into slavery. Now that you broke and dusty you still want to take resources away from black Americans. How sick of people are Africans?
@@nandorblue Victim? There are 4 MILLION AFRICANS living in America whining about why they fled their countries. There aren't 4 Million black Americans fleeing to Africa. Whose the real victims?
@lucywaithira3050 you prove why we know africans are not really intelligent. We built and fought and created our opportunities by the grace of TMH. Of course africans would trade places with my people and move right into our homes and drive our cars and change their names. Because they hate who they are
@@chuksjay6397there is no “one black culture” as we all come from different areas, backgrounds, racial mixtures and socioeconomic groups so it’s crazy to lump us into one group
Mark is an incredible guest
Hi Anita Kente African attire is beautiful 😍 on her. Please wear more native African wear ❤
This young man seems intelligent, observant and a great communicator. He might be the next ambassador or leader.
No African can out argue with someone from the west that knows their history.
@sophiemclarke6556 africans could never out argue us in anything. Nor win in anything against us. Literally. Because we tell these people different history then what the white people have told them after they names them. They say we don't know our history.
This becoming my favorite channel on YT 👏🏿
I agree with Mark, in African culture we are taught that what happens at home stays at home, you don't talk negatively about your family in public. But then George Floyd and social media has made Africans more aware of AA problems in the US.
The crime and murder by African Americans is high in USA but the AA will not talk about. Look up the statistics.
Mark i know the experience myself, i came to Tanzania in 2020 then went back after the great Magufuli demise. That country is definitely not the same, the leadership has definitely changed.
I also arrived in Tanzania in 2020 from America. I have been here the whole time and don’t intend to ever leave. I must say that my experience is much different than what Mark has witnessed . I have received much respect from the Tanzanian community everywhere I have been. To be honest, they treat me like a King. Now the difference is I am a “AA” male well over 50 years old. From my perspective, they don’t treat WP any better here. What I think they respect is age, maturity, patriarchy, common sense and money.
@etimtab your prospective is subjective. Reality is they treat everyone better than you. Your too old to be lying for no reason
Partriachy?
@@mikejones-wn1sw That’s why I said “from my perspective”. No need for you to repeat back to me what I said as if I didn’t say it first…But you might be right about them treating others better than me…cause I don’t expect nor require much from anyone. So simple acts of kindness and respect goes a long way with me. And if I am to old for anything it’s for you to respond to me in that manner.
@@yellowmellow7748 What I mean by that is they are very male dominate. The older male gets more respect then most groups. The male is responsible for taking care of the rest of the family. Men get priority in many aspects of daily life. Again, this has been my experience that has happened to me as well as what I’ve seen.
@@yellowmellow7748 That's right, patriarchy . Only in America does the Black woman and youths do not respect the patriarchy (Fatherhood, male rule).
You can't forget a history you never knew. Colonisers made the education system. In Kenya our history past a century ago is a mystery to nearly a 100% of the population. We have a little understanding of what went on in the past .The experience our ancestors had, the great achievements and challenges they overcame are all lost in history. Not by mistake but by design.
The light-skinned guy said someone called him a slave in Tanzania. Whoever called him a slave probably don't know their history. Much of Africa was enslaved by Europeans. I don't think one slave can be better than the other lol. Slavery is slavery.
Oshay needs to stop interrupting when the guest is making a good point
True.
Magufuli was the best president for Tanzania. Now, we have a lady president who has undone Magufuli's legacy and encouraged hate, stealing, lies and corruption. Mark, you got it right 100%
Shout out to Mark as well. He needs to be on the show more often. Chopping it up with Maintain and Master Gabs.
And I agree that Joanita always looks REGAL on set. Very pretty young Queen, for sure.
Great show!
Grateful and understanding as possible is very key. if Black Americans behave even 30% they way they behave in America or online then there will be problems
As always, a bright fella! (The guest)....
Bigap mark he’s so articulate 🇺🇬 Ugandan here.
Love Joanita's dress!
Thank you, its for my Ghanaian people.
Stop playing victim...most of our current issues are self-induced.
They can't help it they are liberals.
Tell that to the 4 MILLION AFRICANS who fled their countries and moved to America. There are not even 4 MILLION Black Americans living on the African Continent.
@Demarcointuit like what? What problems are self induced by africans in africa or the ones who flee to every country in the world and them complain about foriegn governments taking their resources and begging Foundational Black Americans to save them and build them up
@mikejones-wn1sw That is the dumb shit you don't want to say while you are in Africa...They won't come here and talk about how bad their culture or country is.
@@mikejones-wn1swwho’s begging? Show me the African countries that are begging FBAs to come and build for them? Come to Africa or don’t… no one is begging.
At the end of the day when you’re a guest in someone’s house, humble yourself and be grateful for the accommodations. Learn the way of the home you’re in and do your best to minimize the effort of your host to accommodate you.
Facts
I’ve noticed that about Tanzania when the Great Leader was killed! The shift ‼️
Mark is too much! 🔥🔥💪🏽👍
Oshea is now Pan African. I remember when he was dead set against pan Africanism.
People grow and evolve all the time through personal experiences.
Man this young brother is handling his business enjoyed this video.
Lol I don’t know what people in tz Mark was talking to. Before Magufuli people were happy when he was in office the country was depressed and now u see ppl r happy again
😂😂😂Kenyans we were afraid of Magufuli the guy had started making Tanzania start compete with kenya ,The reason why Tanzania will never grow is because I don't have leaders like Magufuli this other guys are jokers😂😂 happiness is not a measure of a countries successful
Mark is brilliant 👌
Mark, you can't extrapolate to a generalisation with anecdotal evidence. Is it correct to do that?
Ms. Maaya looks amazing!
i love the way he adopted the culture ,the way is humble respect Mark
He looks like Malcolm X.
Wow,,Mark meets Africa is a knowledgeable guy
I just came from Tanzania and I was at a beach very close to his place in Tanzania, sad that the people dont want to listen and clean their acts in public.
I live in europe and we dont get things next day. You have wait 1 or 2 week at least. We dont have amazon here in nothern europe either.
I love how each speaker is incredibly imbalanced in the audio so that the host is extra super loud and clears his full throat like an angry gorilla every 50 seconds or so and how this interrupts the guests' audio which is tuned down to about half of the host's. Really loud throat clearing RIGHT in my earholes, really fucking professional.
@23:50 I also had Tanzanians thinking I was Tanzanian pretending to be black American. How it was explained to me, because I didn’t act anything like the other black Americans they thought I had to be a Tanzanian pretending to be black American. It was basically a compliment. This is so funny
We are not so used to seeing black Americans in person. We have been seeing white Americans from time immemorial. So, when we see a black American in person, for the first time, especially a non stereotypical black American, it may not click right away.
That’s more of an insult to your group
@@jacobwarren504 That's an insult to that certain type of community that went there, learn the difference.
This happens to me to this day 😂
@@BlueBookMen1000 What has the Hotep community got to do with this? Are you suggesting the average Tanzanian divides and labels African Americans in such a nuanced way?
Thank you all for the great work.
We discuss with the Locals history! Our history is documented whether they understand or know it or not! We are on the continent to teach our brothers and sisters who we really are and our experiences. They in Tanzania had slavery Bagamoyo Slave Port and Prison Island. Therefore they have a history of slavery. We were taken into slavery by Arabs before Mzungu. We must teach the locals who we are. It is fine to use the discussion as a teaching moment. Nothing is wrong with sharing our experiences and hurts. They ask us why are we coming to Africa, then it is our opportunity to share and teach. We should never hide our experiences and should be open to teach our local brothers and sisters who we really are. By the way, we are the 6th Region Afrikan diaspora. The historic ones! To make it clear. We are diasporas.
Europeans, Chinese, Indians been settling in Africa, why not African Americans?
Welcome back home, form your own communities here & work together.. You can even apply for African American tribal status recognition in Kenya...We accept different cultures as they want to be but as long as they're Kenyan at the same time.
Good show oshay
The real question is why did the president die? But Mark remember poverty is violence!
Black South Africans are in a much better position to empathize with the AA experience. But even there we must be careful to not vent as if America is the apocalypse 😂
@trailblazersish We would but we get bored easily. Some AAs have a tendency to make it seem like their situation is unique and it is not, not even slavery is unique, and we do not know how to respond to constant whining.
@@lebo5281who said it was unique? Maybe you don’t know how to respond because u don’t understand
@jermainenowels9511 I said some. The some I speak of are the ones that carry their trauma to us, tell us about racism, the same racism that we experience, and then in turn want us to see everything through a racial lens, every single day. It is tiring to be anti-white every day.
Even this line: "they didn't want us to know about Africa", in 2023, really needs to be retired.
The whining is when it is to a point where we compare our suffering, who was the worst victim etc. We get easily exhausted from it.
Exaggerated Saviour and Victim mentalities, in a nutshell.
@@lebo5281constant whining. There are four MILLION AFRICANS living in America, whining about why the fled their countries. There aren't 4 Million black Americans living on the African Continent, not even 12 thousand. Let's not go there about anyone whining.
@tonyamd9800 Aren't you tired of their whining? A whiner is exhausting to the listener no matter where they are in the world. Your comment is irrelevant to my statement.
Great content!
Mark is very wise. Is he on IG?
I think this dude is very intelligent.
I agree with the comment of "natashagirl" below about not finding the host's constant use of profanity appealing. I'll go further to say it's a turn-off from an otherwise informative channel for those interested in living in eastern Africa. Travel and interaction with others should not only broaden our worldview and appreciation of humanity's vast cultural diversity and shared kinship, but it should also expand our vocabulary in whatever language - or languages - we speak. When we meet others, we should strive to represent ourselves and our people in the best light. Vulgarity is frowned upon in all circles of polite and cultured people, young or old. East African Swahili and non-Swahili cultures are no exception.
Really???
Stop complaining and whining.
I went to Tanzania in 2020 because of magufuli he is right ! RIP the bulldozer… if the man was alive,I would be living there today !
Love you Mark, but that secret stuff is part of the problem and legacy of colonialism! It’s not healthy ! That silence has caused major issues! And there are several ways to get dual citizenship! There is not just one way to get dual citizenship! Yet, some people can prove at least their ancestral identity or prove of Ghana DNA
Mark is right, JPM had a very different vision for the country and saw something different and big. I am Tanzanian in the diaspora and I can also attest that now things are very bad, I had an interesting experience with some government officials who basically claimed that unless I bribe them, i was not going to get some permits that I was seeking. I was mad! All this have also to do with a colonial trauma that we haven't really dealt with since independence.
I never fight for my respect. I simply do my thing and don’t worry about things I cannot change.
So glad that u understand ur ppl from the USA 🇺🇸 💓 💖 ❤❤😊
43:20 - who's bringing Amazon's tvs within 4 hours? That's the catch: it's people who are misclassified employees, being cheated out of both their employee and their municipal benefits, on insane quota deadlines and monitored schedules, under unrelenting threat of being replaced by a robot and left out in the streets to die-- which is literally the plight of 100s of thousands in California. Ppl who can't understand that there's a wretched underclass in a 1st world nation don't deserve the parity, or disparity, in return-- like Oshay was saying. I love Mark and co-hostess Girly. This episode really made me think a lot.
When somebody have a different view or is critical of Africa, you all block ppl because you all run from the truth. They don't even have to use profanity, just disagree. Yall too sensitive
Mark and Auston are my favorite African American diaspora "youngins" in Africa...they remind me of my favorite rapper! 2PAC
Africa . If anybody ever called you black or Any Afro person all over the world.
Tell them no am not Am permanently Tanned.
You are Indiginiuous in any land you are in.
Ascendant of Afro first humans on this planet.
Oldest humans.
THAT'S A VERY WISE YOUNG MAN...
MARK MARK MARK
"Be strong enough to keep going even though we've been hurt"
Getting called a slave by a Tanzanian is very very wild 😳
Mark sounds like a young Barack Obama lol, love the show, keep up the good work
Mark sounds nothing like obama! If you knew who obama really is you would not even compare the two!
Lol calm down Captain Karen, it was a just a joke
I moved to Africa, l enjoy my community b/c i have superficial relationships 😊😊😊 b/c our cultures are so different. I came to chll😊
He is 22yrs and wise. He is so intelligent.
Excellent show.
Can someone please teach the host how to clear his throat off mic ?
This young man has amazing observation skills. I know first hand what he’s saying is 100% correct. We should also be a bit more reserved with our pan-African talking points in Africa. Sounds crazy but it’s true. Africans just have different mannerisms and I’ve learned a lot about etiquette from them.
Guys, I don't see sharing experiences with your people to be bad thing. Africans were colonized people, therefore, we all have a story to tell...who else should we share with but ourselves! Man!!! the cultures need a lot of understanding and coming together with love and empathy.
In my Opinion
AA are over entitled to anything when in Africa.
My advice to them,is to come down nd weave into African society and live among local people without seeking more special attentions.
This what Europeans nd Asians got as leverage.
Average European would come to a Village and humble himself,teach or befriend Villagers to the point of being treated like a Villager
He ll never complain or cry foul like our Cousins in Diaspora .
You don't necessarily have to offer anything but just be ready to blend in with the peaple you click with !
Africa is big enough for those who want nd willing to come Home🤔😉
Thts how many ppl were fooled. Smiling, in your face all the while they wanna take your place. Those average Europeans, Chinese are typical backstabbers.
You do know you only see a few AA that live in Africa on TH-cam. I know 20 to 30 AA there and you have never heard of them. Some have been there 50 years.
@@blackseed9293it's just a simple advice
Hm ooook. U think that whites don't have any motives to make Africans love them? Pleeaaasez they have been playing that game since slavery
@@blackseed9293 Exactly my point, we don't hear about them because they appreciate the reality of Africa nd fit in.
They don't go on Mountain Top nd cry Foul!they just come nd live their lives just like the rest of us Africans!
When you come home,you just be a Child among others,you can't ask for special treatment because you were in Whiteman's Country too long nd be an other Westerner imposing his Way to Savages Africans!
Love Mark ❤
Tanzania was built around socialist ideals and the foundations are still there..
Socialism creates a society that looks inside for all its standards
For an American who has grown up in a liberal man eat man society it is quite a problem to co exist with a society that is founded on socialism