@@Anthonycheesman33 Obviously. What I'm saying is, when Crystal Skull came out I thought he looked really old and would pretty much always look like that
Fun Fact: Harrison Ford says he likes this movie more than the Temple of Doom. He also said that he was happy he got to do one more Indiana Jones film.
@@harrambou9468 Harrison Ford had a pretty bad back injury when filming Temple of Doom. I could see why he wouldn’t have fond memories of that movie if that’s the reason why, I personally love it though
Trust me, it's NOT an unpopular opinion. For all the flaws this movie had, it actually feels like an Indiana Jones movie, just downgraded in many ways, but the ending is far more satisfying than Dial of Destiny. This franchise should have ended either with Last Crusade or with Kingdom of Crystal Skull at worst.
Same. I may hate the alien stuff but the final moment is beautiful and how I would end my Indiana Jones tale. Too bad we have to live with the fact we have the Dial of Destiny as the final instalment but we can choice to not watch it. Everyone has a right to what they want to watch.
Kingdom of the crystal skull gets too much hate. It may not be a perfect Indiana Jones movie because the fridge or aliens but it still holds some adventure and fun to it I realized some part of the ending music is the same that they used in the last crusade when Indy and his dad ride off to the sunset😭😢 R.I.P Sean Connery
I’m in the minority here but I like this film better than Temple of Doom and way better than Last Crusade. It has problems but the hate it gets is way too much. Whereas the Last Crusade was a movie that tried way too hard to redo Raiders.
Honestly I've never heard any hate from this film till years later. I think the film is alright, a 7 or 8 out of 10. Not as good as the original 3 but still a worthy entry to the Indiana Jones Franchise. With the new movie coming out and predictably bombing, maybe more people will look back on this film more positively.
@@TheRealChief613 And even the new one isn't as bad as some people are making it out to be. Certainly not 'the woke death of the franchise' whatever that means.
On Metacritic, _Temple on Doom_ holds a 57 rating. _Crystal Skull_ is 65. I think these kinds of films are valued more positively as time goes on. It's easy to hate new films that are just meant to be espapist fun.
For all its faults, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull gave us a perfect ending to the franchise! Indy married the love of his life, bonded and reconciled with his son (similar to when he did with his Dad once before). He reaffirmed that he’s the one and only Indiana Jones by taking his hat back from Henry the III. He was at an age where he could either happily retire, or continue his adventures for a few years longer! It was wholesome, it was fulfilling, it was perfect!
I think the movie is good too. But I think for some people the cringe moments outweigh the good. Like mutt swinging with monkeys and the infamous fridge scene.
It’s the most pure fun Indy movie, has the most rewatchable scenes in the series. DOD is also a great movie. I hope both movies will be appreciated in the future like they deserve.
Earlier in the film, the Holy Grail theme plays as Indy looks at his father’s picture with grief. This is followed by a similar moment, when the head of Marcus’s statue falls on the KGB guys, and our heroes escape. There’s that brief lingering stare from Indy toward the statue, that shows his sadness at Marcus being dead. In both moments, there’s a sense of higher power calling out to Indy. The grail theme, literally symbolizing eternal life calling out to Indy, And Mutt’s amazement at a statue saving them. Supernatural things happen to Indy, but he is unable to see these moments for what they truly are: Miracles. Indy has stumbled a bit in his life. But His father, his friend, and God himself are watching over, protecting, And trying to give Indy signs that they’re is more after death, if he just believes there is. All coming full circle, when Indy is presented with the image that would make anyone doubt their faith, In the alien spaceship. But instead of taking solace in his lack of faith, He chooses to believe more than he ever did before, Because he now sees the journey to getting here was a miracle, For the first time, he addresses his father, as still being alive, Accepting that there is more to faith than the objects surrounding it.
Eh I dunno chief. I assume that “god” in this sense is the Christian one and that Indy follows him. The way I see it Indy follows no god even if he believes in them. When faced with the evidence of OT YHWH, Hindu Kali, NT GOD and Aliens I imagine it would be hard to pick a lane. Notice in this scene here that his dad is “somewhere”, not shamayim, svargaloka or heaven. Also note how in the wedding scene God is mentioned once by the pastor in a “church” with no religious marking or symbols, that probably one of the least religious ways somebody could get married back in 50s America.
A slight stretch on that one but I’ll say I really like it, and no one else has gotten anything that deep out of the ending of this movie because they’re too busy shitting on it so respect. Just Indy acknowledging something after life alone is a lot of growth from raiders
@@Tester-sh1mnTemple Of Doom was never intended to happen and they only pursued a plotline with another religion was because they didn’t want to have Nazis be the bad guys again. Spielberg is Jewish and believes in the same God as Christianity and is pretty open about this same with Lucas in their ideas for Indy’s Journey. Redditards like you just cry about it
Yes, but terrible CGI, making the movie a bit like a Space Jam is also there. + Nobody even adresses Indy as Indy nor Indiana. It's only "a crazy old man" that we hear all the time.
I know a lot of people didn't like Shia as Indie's son, but to just unceremoniously kill him off between movies was lousy. That feels less like they listened to the audience by getting rid of a character they didn't like, and more like they just made all the other characters suffer and be in an unfittingly sad situation. Like they could have just had him be a banker or something to write him out, and Indie could have still been bored and depressed about getting old and having to retire. They didn't have to make him the most sad depressed old man imaginable. But whatever.
The original ending was that Indy + past Indy was supposed to die in the past so ms literalfuckingwho would be the one who would be the protgag in the Raiders, Temple of Doom and the Last Crusade. Early testers were rightfully pissed.
Abner would not be laughing at the fact that his daughter ended marrying the man who seduced and abandoned his daughter at 15 when he was nearly 30. I don't blame him.
You might be right since the latest installments in many franchises almost always tend to be the most hated. Still looking forward to the movie however
Saw this as a kid in theaters, and ppl hated this movie for the dumbest most spoiled reasons. This is a solid addition to the franchise. Great memories.
@@arthaiser what exactly does crystal skull do that is so bad? Yes, it's over the top. What he got married?? Aliens???? Seriously... It ain't better than the temple of doom but geez y'all act like it's The Room 2003 or similar. As an adult the movie was okay and felt like Indy. This new one has an old sad man. At least here he handled business and his son did okay. He's young what'd you expect. The alien thing was different but not horrible. Also it's 2008 cgi wasn't good on most things. Indy 4 is decent, also Steve Spielberg made it. So that should at least made you feel comfortable. I'm just curious. Yes, riding off into the sunset with all your friends and dad is perfect. Getting married ain't so bad either. They sent him off decent, the new one he just got laid. I'm not here to argue. I would genuinely like to know what exactly did that in your perspective it was torture? Because even as a kid or adult it's not bad just decent. I got to see Indy actually do shit and Ford was still capable just older now. Same thing with stallone in Rambo 2008. Not to get totally off topic but was that movie shit you as well. I remember many adults giving it a shit show hard time. Even when Rambo 2 was known for being a mindless action movie, no matter how much box office it made. People loved Rambo 2 for that. Anyways, yes I'm not here to argue I'm genuinely curious. What this movie do that it's like eating shit pancakes with piss syrup lol, (I say because I heard it while leaving the theaters).
I understand why they decided not to bring Shia LaBeouf because everyone has problems with him, but I wish they didn't kill his character off. That was a horrible excuse to explain why Mutt isn't in "Dial of Destiny". They could've just simply said that Mutt was probably married and had kids of his own. Heck, they could've just said he was still stationed somewhere doing duties. But they didn't have to say that Mutt died.
That is stupid though, like how Paul Walker is still alive in fast but he just never joins the action anymore for reasons. Mutt being dead makes the most sense for the story and it also leads to a great scene where Indy can hardly hold back tears regretting letting him go.
I wasn't devastated, but it dragged the whole movie down with Indy being depressed and basically trying to commit suicide at the end. They were basically trying to erase Crystal Skull instead of trying to create a fun movie. Marion was added in reshoots at the end to make it slightly less depressing. But if they wanted to make Indy 5 a character movie, they needed more character moments and maybe a slower more intelligent adventure where Indy's age isn't weighing him down. Instead its one action set piece after another with almost no story, anchored by a protagonist that's morbidly depressed and is getting no joy out of the quest. And its not like they needed to kill Mutt to not have him in the story. Not to mention the fact that Mutt would have been like 35-40 years old; joining the army to piss off Dad when you are already an adult is pretty pathetic. They made Indy's son pathetic and killed him, for the sole purpose of sucking the joy out of the movie. All around brilliant decision.
@@jbard9892 I totally agree with you. The movie needed more a clever story than a tragedy. More intelligence, less pursuits. Indy is old but he's still clever. But i suppose it's more easy to write a simple action movie. One more.
@@Will74Densetsu If it was me, I'd have cut that opening scene down by half (at least). Then cut to old man Indy, a grandfather, still married to Marian, but in a rut. He argues with the kids downstairs, his students don't listen to him. He got enough juice left in him to throw some old man sass at them, but he just looks tired. When Shaw sells him that "last great triumph" line his eyes light up but he declines with a crooked smile; "those days are over, kid." But she still convinces him to show her the whatever (nothing to do with time travel, please) and then steals it from him. No big New York set piece, he and Sallah (I'm not so down with John Rhys Davies doing brownface but the movie needs some fun and he delivers) have to track Shaw down. Film noir like the Maltese Falcon and Casablanca were big influences on Indiana Jones so lean into that. Indy and Sallah are tracking a cunning thief whose objective is unknown while also being tracked by a mysterious Nazi bastard. This can all culminate in a car chase in Tangiers, though probably about 20% shorter than the one we got. Sallah goes home after twisting an ankle, and Indy and Shaw have to team up to find the whatever using her fathers papers as a guide. The second half of the movie being like a less stupid version of National Treasure where the fun is in solving an ancient puzzle with only occasional light action. But in style its more like the map room scene in Raiders. With Indy becoming more energetic as the movie goes on. Attila the Professor becomes as giddy as a schoolboy. Meanwhile, we learn more about Shaw. She was planning to sell the thing but only after she learned what she needed to, and only to raise money to go after the thing her was obsessed with, to prove him right. They find the thing, Nazis show up, thing kills Nazis in some gruesome way. End with a nice character moment between Indy and Shaw. Done. Budget $150 million tops.
@@jbard9892That is amazing. Me and my cousin had a similar thought. Killing off Mutt seems just a cheap way to get "drama" and it only sets the wrong tone. Lucasfilms played it too safe.
@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom Yeah it seems like that's how stories are told nowadays, cheap melodrama instead of character, "witty" banter instead of compelling stories, and non-stop forgettable CGI action to keep the audience from falling asleep instead of brilliantly choreographed, meticulously staged action scenes that are burned in your memory forever. And why even bother with the "drama" without a character arc. He's miserable throughout the movie, tries to die at the end, then his wife comes back to him. That's a weak as fuck character arc to begin with for a legendary hero, and he's a completely passive participant in his own arc. The only decision he made was to let himself die on a beach, and he failed.
I Love Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull don't Care what the Hatters say and there are alot of them, It was said in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny that Mutt Died in Vietnam they Probably did this because alot of People Hatted the Movie and the Writers wanted the Hatters to sympathize with the Character of Mutt Williams and Make People Like Kingdom of the Crystal Skull More and It's Working in my Opinion, it makes you Miss and Sympathize with Mutt Williams and Makes you want to go back and Watch Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
Here is my ranking of the Indiana Jones movie from best to worst. Best of the best Raiders of the lost ark hands down is best with melting faces and grusome kills. 2nd best Last Crusade this to me is the sequel to Raiders and just as grusome as Raiders. 3rd best Crystel Skull even though this one gets a lot of hate on the internet to me its a good movie. 4th Temple of doom to me this is just a hair better then the next one. 5th worst of the worst Dail of Destiny don't be surprised.
I share exactly the same opinion as you, my friend. Dial of Destiny was a crap movie and I can't believe people say it's better than Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. At least the ending was satisfying and Indy concluded his story as a happy and fulfilled man. I hate that the folks at Disney are desperate to make forget about this movie and give us that depressing, non-Spielberg-directed crap that is Dial of Destiny.
I've come to appreciate this movie so much more today than before. From the campy humor to the spectacular death scenes, It had many of these Indy elements that were missing from Dial of Destiny.
Wow. The movie may not be perfect but it's at least a happy ending for the character of Indiana Jones and gives the characters an optimistic future. If they ever do a 5th movie then I sure hope it will expand on the relationship between Indy and his son as well as bring back sidekicks like Sallah and Shortround and use them to create a dynamic between the old(Sallah and Short Round) and the new(Mutt). Yes I can see it now. A 5th movie that combines elements of all the pervious movies to create one epic final adventure for Indiana Jones and it would be like poetry since it rhymes. Until that 5th movie comes out im going to be content with the ending we got here because who would want an Indiana Jones movie where Indiana is old and depressed with the side characters getting reduced to mere cameos for nostalgia bait while a new character steals Indy's thunder and even does his own job better then him. If Indy 5 turns out like that, then it would literally be no greater of a crime than making Star Wars movies after Return of the Jedi or making Toy Story 4 after 3.
Shortround should’ve been the one in Helena’s role. He should’ve been the one searching for the Dial or whatever and on the run, coming to Indy for the help. Then instead of leaving Indy out of bitterness like Helena, he leaves Indy to protect him and not get him caught up in the mess. Ultimately though, Indy decides to go on one last adventure to help his old friend and to stop the Nazis, aided by a NOT DEAD Mutt
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: Respectful ending that leaves Indy a happy man with a family. Dial of Destiny: Indy gets beat up by his goddaughter to prevent him from ruining history and has a miracle makeup with Miriam while still having a dead son. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is no longer the worst Indy film.
@Julianjulesr1361 there literally are zero things about Dial of Destiny that are better than Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. James Mangold and Kathleen Kennedy are talentless hacks who don’t care about this franchise or character. Steven Spielberg and George Lucas, despite their creative differences, at least didn’t make the character a pathetic old man who couldn’t do anything right.
@@homeslicebread8443 at the end of the day it is opinion, but no way anyone calls themselves an Indy fan and says that Dial of Destiny is a good movie.
He did that to himself. His fame on Transformers got to his head, Harrison hated him, Spielberg hated him. Safe to say the rest hated him for being a Prima Donna.
You know, Its actually a pretty decent Indy movie, Overtime I appreciate it more.... That ending always brings tears of joy!! Indy is smiling as he marries Marian!!! Thanks for upload, I'll consider subbing to see rest of your content 🙏🙌
This movie is underrated. It wasn't it's fault the audience was too stupid and immature to understand the message. First off, them being aliens, was a reference to the change of movie genres from 30s to 40s action adventure, to 50s Sci-Fi and Horror. It's been like that since IJ was a thing as it was a tribute to the movies that came before. Second, regarding the aliens themselves. The humans had projected their own feelings on what aliens should be like only to find out that even with their immense power, they were no different than us in personality. Or as Indy would say it "They were Archeologists." Which coincides with another alien of Spielberg Lore, E.T. whom got left behind on a simple botany study mission. Meaning each species had a different walk of life that amalgamated into Earth culture. Then there's the last message. People much like Short Round in Temple of Doom, believed it was all about getting the fortune and glory. Knowledge was their alien's treasure. All that gold was an after thought because they were shaped in many things from Earth Culture that we now use plastic or glass versions of. Decor, cookware, tools, things like that. They weren't greedy, they were just curious about how we are, no different than we are curious about what it was really like during ancient times. The main reason why people hate this movie? It's too educational for them.
This movie is a blast! I grew up with it. I agree it is worse than the trilogy but there’s actual emotion to this kind of scene (compared to Dial of Destiny, imo)
Right? Just stating that Mutt is walking his own path and pursuing different goals far away from his parents would've been enough, and still would've played a contributing factor into Indy's feeling of being left behind by a changing world and loses loved ones to the passage of time. I know it still would've pissed fans off anyway due to the hopeful closure in KOTCS, but I don't think it's unrealistic that Indy and Mutt may not have been able to bond as strongly as they would've wanted, considering they were absent from each other's lives for 19 years. Or you still could've had him fight in the Vietnam War, but is still alive thanks to Indy's tips as a former soldier himself. Or he could've deserted after realizing it wasn't a war worth fighting for and is living in exile to escape a court martial.
This film not as good as the OG Trilogy but it's definitely not bad. It captures the Indiana Jones magic perfectly especially at the start in the warehouse. The only bad thing has to be the CGI and the aliens. Gotta say this is still better than dial of destiny. 7/10!
The first half is really quite fine, other than the fridge scene, but it really shits the bed in the second half. Its not just the CGI and aliens, the villains are unintimidating, Mack is the fucking worst, the sand pit scene is wretched, too many irritating supporting characters, and too much nostalgia baiting (and god only knows who that is for; I grew up on Indiana Jones, if I hate it, who likes it?). But I sadly have to admit it is better than Dial of Destiny, at least they didn't make Indy suicidally depressed.
Actually there’s not that much CGI. Most of it is real The monkeys, the fridge and the waterfalls? yyyyyyeahhh….I got nothin’ Still a lot to appreciate about this one tho
@@user-hx6gs9rq7u Something you have to learn is that it stops being an opinion when the 4th installment was more profitable than this one. (Which is the case)
I liked crystal skull actually.....only thing I didnt like was the villians....the movie shouldnt of dealt with nazis AGAIN....should of been another archeologist that indy was going up against instead.
Kingdom will always be the end of Indy's story for me, the most beautiful and complete character conclusion. So glad to have the 4K box set of the 4 films, these look gorgeous in their new restaurations!
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This was so much better than the new INBANANA BONES flop. uggh. You don't realize it until you go back and realize Lucas and Speilberg BOTH worked on it together. Such a big mistake letting someone else take over the franchise. Same with Jurassic Park Dominion.
If they had given Shias character less dumb moments like the swinging scene and more character building moments for him to become more mature then people would have liked him better.
Those who want to see Dial of Destiny, I have one thing to tell you. It never happened. Also I have grown to love Crystal Skull more over the years. Yes, it may seem ridiculous with some of the plot lines but it still keeps the the spirit & energy of the series.
Jeez Harrison Ford actually looks young here compared to Dial of Destiny
He was 64-65 at the time of filming
He was 64 here in DOD hes 79
It’s almost like he’s aging lol
@@Anthonycheesman33 Obviously. What I'm saying is, when Crystal Skull came out I thought he looked really old and would pretty much always look like that
Well ya know we don’t stop aging till we die
Fun Fact: Harrison Ford says he likes this movie more than the Temple of Doom. He also said that he was happy he got to do one more Indiana Jones film.
Reeeally
@@harrambou9468 Harrison Ford had a pretty bad back injury when filming Temple of Doom. I could see why he wouldn’t have fond memories of that movie if that’s the reason why, I personally love it though
Unpopular opinion: this is a better ending for the character than Dial of Destiny.
No, this is definitely a popular opinion.
Trust me, it's NOT an unpopular opinion. For all the flaws this movie had, it actually feels like an Indiana Jones movie, just downgraded in many ways, but the ending is far more satisfying than Dial of Destiny. This franchise should have ended either with Last Crusade or with Kingdom of Crystal Skull at worst.
Say what you want about Crystal Skull, but the ending was a pretty decent conclusion to Indy’s character.
I agree 100%!
Yeah, it WAS.
Same. I may hate the alien stuff but the final moment is beautiful and how I would end my Indiana Jones tale. Too bad we have to live with the fact we have the Dial of Destiny as the final instalment but we can choice to not watch it. Everyone has a right to what they want to watch.
@@BlackCatFilmProductions as far as I'm concerned, Dial of Destiny was just a bad dream Indy had.
Yea I think I’ve got some more appreciation for this after dial of destiny
Kingdom of the crystal skull gets too much hate. It may not be a perfect Indiana Jones movie because the fridge or aliens but it still holds some adventure and fun to it
I realized some part of the ending music is the same that they used in the last crusade when Indy and his dad ride off to the sunset😭😢 R.I.P Sean Connery
Yeah it's good but not as good as OG trilogy
I’m in the minority here but I like this film better than Temple of Doom and way better than Last Crusade. It has problems but the hate it gets is way too much. Whereas the Last Crusade was a movie that tried way too hard to redo Raiders.
nah it sucked
@@kellymulderino7156 how
@@tonnhawchannel3789 lol how?
It warms my heart to hear more people say that they actually like Crystal Skull.
You have terrible standards.
Honestly I've never heard any hate from this film till years later. I think the film is alright, a 7 or 8 out of 10. Not as good as the original 3 but still a worthy entry to the Indiana Jones Franchise. With the new movie coming out and predictably bombing, maybe more people will look back on this film more positively.
@@TheRealChief613 And even the new one isn't as bad as some people are making it out to be. Certainly not 'the woke death of the franchise' whatever that means.
I say Crystal Skull is on the same level as Temple of Doom; not as good as Raiders or Last Crusade, but still entertaining.
On Metacritic, _Temple on Doom_ holds a 57 rating. _Crystal Skull_ is 65. I think these kinds of films are valued more positively as time goes on. It's easy to hate new films that are just meant to be espapist fun.
For all its faults, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull gave us a perfect ending to the franchise!
Indy married the love of his life, bonded and reconciled with his son (similar to when he did with his Dad once before). He reaffirmed that he’s the one and only Indiana Jones by taking his hat back from Henry the III. He was at an age where he could either happily retire, or continue his adventures for a few years longer! It was wholesome, it was fulfilling, it was perfect!
And he got his career in order at the University. It's a classic Spielbergian ending,
And sadly Dial of Destiny threw all that out the window
@@StoogesFan As far as I'm concerned, Dial of Destiny isnt canon
His son is now dead
@@crimsonthumos3905really , MUT is dead now aswell
This is where it ended. Everything past this point is disney fanfic
haha, that's one way to look at it!
It ended with Last Crusade. A perfect trilogy, not to be messed with.
Cry more
Dial of Destiny isn’t entirely part of Lucas or Spielberg’s work
You know, I actually really liked this movie. I never understood all the hate it got.
It is not on the same level as the first three and some of the scenes didn't make sense and cgi was bad, but I like that it gave him a happy ending.
I think the movie is good too. But I think for some people the cringe moments outweigh the good. Like mutt swinging with monkeys and the infamous fridge scene.
@@MadfellaDuke the scenes you mentioned are bangers. Just fun.
It’s the most pure fun Indy movie, has the most rewatchable scenes in the series. DOD is also a great movie. I hope both movies will be appreciated in the future like they deserve.
CGI of this movie is horrible
Kathleen Kennedy is looking at this scene and saying I know what would make It better an awful boring unfunny no flawed female that no one will like
"Perhaps I've treated you too harshly"
-me to this movie
Gosh I didn’t appreciate at the time how well Harrison looked for his age. The man takes very good care of himself.
Sean Connery SHOULD of had a cameo meeting Marion and mutt. He definitely would of had something nutty to say to Indy right then and there lol
Sean was asked to come back, but he was enjoying retirement to much,but apparently he said he was tempted
@@carltardis it was fair for Sean at the time to enjoy retirement. He paid his dues to the world of entertainment.
@@carltardis also its sad that John Hurt is gone in this scene I hope the Dial of Destiny addreasses Ox's passing
@@dboygamer8184 i wouldn't count it sadly. but you never know
The fuck?😂😂
Earlier in the film, the Holy Grail theme plays as Indy looks at his father’s picture with grief.
This is followed by a similar moment, when the head of Marcus’s statue falls on the KGB guys, and our heroes escape.
There’s that brief lingering stare from Indy toward the statue, that shows his sadness at Marcus being dead.
In both moments, there’s a sense of higher power calling out to Indy.
The grail theme, literally symbolizing eternal life calling out to Indy,
And Mutt’s amazement at a statue saving them.
Supernatural things happen to Indy, but he is unable to see these moments for what they truly are:
Miracles.
Indy has stumbled a bit in his life.
But His father, his friend, and God himself are watching over, protecting,
And trying to give Indy signs that they’re is more after death, if he just believes there is.
All coming full circle, when Indy is presented with the image that would make anyone doubt their faith,
In the alien spaceship.
But instead of taking solace in his lack of faith,
He chooses to believe more than he ever did before,
Because he now sees the journey to getting here was a miracle,
For the first time, he addresses his father, as still being alive,
Accepting that there is more to faith than the objects surrounding it.
Eh I dunno chief. I assume that “god” in this sense is the Christian one and that Indy follows him. The way I see it Indy follows no god even if he believes in them. When faced with the evidence of OT YHWH, Hindu Kali, NT GOD and Aliens I imagine it would be hard to pick a lane. Notice in this scene here that his dad is “somewhere”, not shamayim, svargaloka or heaven. Also note how in the wedding scene God is mentioned once by the pastor in a “church” with no religious marking or symbols, that probably one of the least religious ways somebody could get married back in 50s America.
Yeah, no.
That's an interesting take. Good connections between moments.
A slight stretch on that one but I’ll say I really like it, and no one else has gotten anything that deep out of the ending of this movie because they’re too busy shitting on it so respect. Just Indy acknowledging something after life alone is a lot of growth from raiders
@@Tester-sh1mnTemple Of Doom was never intended to happen and they only pursued a plotline with another religion was because they didn’t want to have Nazis be the bad guys again.
Spielberg is Jewish and believes in the same God as Christianity and is pretty open about this same with Lucas in their ideas for Indy’s Journey.
Redditards like you just cry about it
For me this movie is the end of the adventures of Indiana Jones
This is an extremely overhated movie. It's perfectly entertaining from start to finish, and Indy's wit and snarky attitude are still there!
Yes, but terrible CGI, making the movie a bit like a Space Jam is also there. + Nobody even adresses Indy as Indy nor Indiana. It's only "a crazy old man" that we hear all the time.
crystal skull has grown on me now. after watching the 5th one it was pure Disney garbage
I'll take Kingdom of the Crystal Skull over Dial of Destiny any day.
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull wasn't fantastic, but it looks better in comparison now after Dial of Destiny.
That's like saying the Godfather part III wasn't fantastic, but it didn't suck like The Irishman!
Can you imagine we'd have a completely different movie if Shia didn't ruin his relationship with Spielberg and Ford?
How did Shia ruin his relationship with both?
@@Skylar_T tldr he called Spielberg washed up indirectly in an interview
@@EthanRomwhat about ford
@@Luka2000_ Well Ford and Spielberg are long term buddies. So whatever Shia said about Spielberg rubbed him the wrong way too
I know a lot of people didn't like Shia as Indie's son, but to just unceremoniously kill him off between movies was lousy. That feels less like they listened to the audience by getting rid of a character they didn't like, and more like they just made all the other characters suffer and be in an unfittingly sad situation. Like they could have just had him be a banker or something to write him out, and Indie could have still been bored and depressed about getting old and having to retire. They didn't have to make him the most sad depressed old man imaginable. But whatever.
0:16 When Henry’s theme from Last Crusade kicks in. Gets a smile from me every time.
That and Indy calls his son junior here, reminiscent of his father calling him junior in the Last Crusade.
Reading all the bad reviews about Dial of Destiny makes me believing the this movie is not so bad at all 😆
Way better ending then Dial of Destiny
Came here to say this.
Nope, that's just Sean Connery, enjoying the hell out of his retirement.
A much better ending to the series than whatever the fuck I just witnessed a couple hours ago.
You just watch Dial of Density? Oh boy I come to appreciate this end.
i dont hate the new movie and actually enjoy but damn. You cant say that it doesnt feel like a disney film
"Dial" is a good movie.
Fuck no
The original ending was that Indy + past Indy was supposed to die in the past so ms literalfuckingwho would be the one who would be the protgag in the Raiders, Temple of Doom and the Last Crusade.
Early testers were rightfully pissed.
When Indy told Mutt that somewhere his grandfather is laughing, he must've been referring to Indy's father, not Marion's.
I believe so too.
Of course
Abner would not be laughing at the fact that his daughter ended marrying the man who seduced and abandoned his daughter at 15 when he was nearly 30. I don't blame him.
I mean, is this even a point of discussion lol
…yeah
I thought that was obvious
In about a month's time, I suspect this film will no longer be the worst in the Indiana Jones franchise.
not a very educated take Lmao
You might be right since the latest installments in many franchises almost always tend to be the most hated. Still looking forward to the movie however
I’m going to go watch it with my dad for Father’s Day. However, I agree I’ve been hearing bad things about it so far
@@heisenberg7375
I was about to say the exact same thing 🙃🙃
@@navylaks2 ok? Lmao
Saw this as a kid in theaters, and ppl hated this movie for the dumbest most spoiled reasons. This is a solid addition to the franchise. Great memories.
that is the thing, you saw it as a kid. as a kid, even if they put a hot shit on the screen you would have found it entertaining
@@arthaiser what exactly does crystal skull do that is so bad? Yes, it's over the top. What he got married?? Aliens???? Seriously... It ain't better than the temple of doom but geez y'all act like it's The Room 2003 or similar.
As an adult the movie was okay and felt like Indy. This new one has an old sad man. At least here he handled business and his son did okay. He's young what'd you expect.
The alien thing was different but not horrible. Also it's 2008 cgi wasn't good on most things. Indy 4 is decent, also Steve Spielberg made it. So that should at least made you feel comfortable.
I'm just curious. Yes, riding off into the sunset with all your friends and dad is perfect. Getting married ain't so bad either. They sent him off decent, the new one he just got laid.
I'm not here to argue. I would genuinely like to know what exactly did that in your perspective it was torture? Because even as a kid or adult it's not bad just decent. I got to see Indy actually do shit and Ford was still capable just older now. Same thing with stallone in Rambo 2008. Not to get totally off topic but was that movie shit you as well. I remember many adults giving it a shit show hard time. Even when Rambo 2 was known for being a mindless action movie, no matter how much box office it made. People loved Rambo 2 for that.
Anyways, yes I'm not here to argue I'm genuinely curious. What this movie do that it's like eating shit pancakes with piss syrup lol, (I say because I heard it while leaving the theaters).
@@boblarry9688 I Completely Agree with You
Same with the prequel trilogy. Only after Disney actually objectively fucks if up will people now appreciate The Prequel Trilogy and Crystal Skull.
@@misterbobby8913 Prequels are better than Crystal Skull.
THIS is the last Indy film
I understand why they decided not to bring Shia LaBeouf because everyone has problems with him, but I wish they didn't kill his character off. That was a horrible excuse to explain why Mutt isn't in "Dial of Destiny". They could've just simply said that Mutt was probably married and had kids of his own. Heck, they could've just said he was still stationed somewhere doing duties. But they didn't have to say that Mutt died.
I hate that they decided to do that.
That is stupid though, like how Paul Walker is still alive in fast but he just never joins the action anymore for reasons.
Mutt being dead makes the most sense for the story and it also leads to a great scene where Indy can hardly hold back tears regretting letting him go.
Because with mutt dead and Marion gone, indy had a dilemma about staying in the past or not.
They did that to have a reason to reset Indy back to depression.
Many people hate Mutt but I was devastated to find out he died in Vietnam...
I wasn't devastated, but it dragged the whole movie down with Indy being depressed and basically trying to commit suicide at the end. They were basically trying to erase Crystal Skull instead of trying to create a fun movie. Marion was added in reshoots at the end to make it slightly less depressing. But if they wanted to make Indy 5 a character movie, they needed more character moments and maybe a slower more intelligent adventure where Indy's age isn't weighing him down. Instead its one action set piece after another with almost no story, anchored by a protagonist that's morbidly depressed and is getting no joy out of the quest.
And its not like they needed to kill Mutt to not have him in the story. Not to mention the fact that Mutt would have been like 35-40 years old; joining the army to piss off Dad when you are already an adult is pretty pathetic. They made Indy's son pathetic and killed him, for the sole purpose of sucking the joy out of the movie. All around brilliant decision.
@@jbard9892 I totally agree with you. The movie needed more a clever story than a tragedy. More intelligence, less pursuits. Indy is old but he's still clever. But i suppose it's more easy to write a simple action movie. One more.
@@Will74Densetsu If it was me, I'd have cut that opening scene down by half (at least). Then cut to old man Indy, a grandfather, still married to Marian, but in a rut. He argues with the kids downstairs, his students don't listen to him. He got enough juice left in him to throw some old man sass at them, but he just looks tired. When Shaw sells him that "last great triumph" line his eyes light up but he declines with a crooked smile; "those days are over, kid." But she still convinces him to show her the whatever (nothing to do with time travel, please) and then steals it from him. No big New York set piece, he and Sallah (I'm not so down with John Rhys Davies doing brownface but the movie needs some fun and he delivers) have to track Shaw down.
Film noir like the Maltese Falcon and Casablanca were big influences on Indiana Jones so lean into that. Indy and Sallah are tracking a cunning thief whose objective is unknown while also being tracked by a mysterious Nazi bastard. This can all culminate in a car chase in Tangiers, though probably about 20% shorter than the one we got.
Sallah goes home after twisting an ankle, and Indy and Shaw have to team up to find the whatever using her fathers papers as a guide. The second half of the movie being like a less stupid version of National Treasure where the fun is in solving an ancient puzzle with only occasional light action. But in style its more like the map room scene in Raiders. With Indy becoming more energetic as the movie goes on. Attila the Professor becomes as giddy as a schoolboy. Meanwhile, we learn more about Shaw. She was planning to sell the thing but only after she learned what she needed to, and only to raise money to go after the thing her was obsessed with, to prove him right.
They find the thing, Nazis show up, thing kills Nazis in some gruesome way. End with a nice character moment between Indy and Shaw. Done. Budget $150 million tops.
@@jbard9892That is amazing. Me and my cousin had a similar thought. Killing off Mutt seems just a cheap way to get "drama" and it only sets the wrong tone. Lucasfilms played it too safe.
@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom Yeah it seems like that's how stories are told nowadays, cheap melodrama instead of character, "witty" banter instead of compelling stories, and non-stop forgettable CGI action to keep the audience from falling asleep instead of brilliantly choreographed, meticulously staged action scenes that are burned in your memory forever. And why even bother with the "drama" without a character arc. He's miserable throughout the movie, tries to die at the end, then his wife comes back to him. That's a weak as fuck character arc to begin with for a legendary hero, and he's a completely passive participant in his own arc. The only decision he made was to let himself die on a beach, and he failed.
I Love Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull don't Care what the Hatters say and there are alot of them, It was said in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny that Mutt Died in Vietnam they Probably did this because alot of People Hatted the Movie and the Writers wanted the Hatters to sympathize with the Character of Mutt Williams and Make People Like Kingdom of the Crystal Skull More and It's Working in my Opinion, it makes you Miss and Sympathize with Mutt Williams and Makes you want to go back and Watch Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
They should have left this as the last film
*SPOILERS*
And then he died in Vietnam. A sad ending.
He is with his grandfather now 😢!!
Yeah I definitely like Crystal Skull ending more than Dial of Destiny.
Here is my ranking of the Indiana Jones movie from best to worst.
Best of the best Raiders of the lost ark hands down is best with melting faces and grusome kills.
2nd best Last Crusade this to me is the sequel to Raiders and just as grusome as Raiders.
3rd best Crystel Skull even though this one gets a lot of hate on the internet to me its a good movie.
4th Temple of doom to me this is just a hair better then the next one.
5th worst of the worst Dail of Destiny don't be surprised.
I share exactly the same opinion as you, my friend. Dial of Destiny was a crap movie and I can't believe people say it's better than Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. At least the ending was satisfying and Indy concluded his story as a happy and fulfilled man. I hate that the folks at Disney are desperate to make forget about this movie and give us that depressing, non-Spielberg-directed crap that is Dial of Destiny.
I've come to appreciate this movie so much more today than before. From the campy humor to the spectacular death scenes, It had many of these Indy elements that were missing from Dial of Destiny.
Wow. The movie may not be perfect but it's at least a happy ending for the character of Indiana Jones and gives the characters an optimistic future. If they ever do a 5th movie then I sure hope it will expand on the relationship between Indy and his son as well as bring back sidekicks like Sallah and Shortround and use them to create a dynamic between the old(Sallah and Short Round) and the new(Mutt). Yes I can see it now. A 5th movie that combines elements of all the pervious movies to create one epic final adventure for Indiana Jones and it would be like poetry since it rhymes. Until that 5th movie comes out im going to be content with the ending we got here because who would want an Indiana Jones movie where Indiana is old and depressed with the side characters getting reduced to mere cameos for nostalgia bait while a new character steals Indy's thunder and even does his own job better then him. If Indy 5 turns out like that, then it would literally be no greater of a crime than making Star Wars movies after Return of the Jedi or making Toy Story 4 after 3.
A 5th movie came out.
@williamfinch9858 Really? Where is it? Is it hiding behind the noncanon Helena Shaw spin-off?
The real 5th movie never came out.
Shortround should’ve been the one in Helena’s role. He should’ve been the one searching for the Dial or whatever and on the run, coming to Indy for the help.
Then instead of leaving Indy out of bitterness like Helena, he leaves Indy to protect him and not get him caught up in the mess. Ultimately though, Indy decides to go on one last adventure to help his old friend and to stop the Nazis, aided by a NOT DEAD Mutt
@@gabebartlett9680you have a better treatment for Indiana home 5 did
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: Respectful ending that leaves Indy a happy man with a family.
Dial of Destiny: Indy gets beat up by his goddaughter to prevent him from ruining history and has a miracle makeup with Miriam while still having a dead son.
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is no longer the worst Indy film.
@Julianjulesr1361 there literally are zero things about Dial of Destiny that are better than Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. James Mangold and Kathleen Kennedy are talentless hacks who don’t care about this franchise or character. Steven Spielberg and George Lucas, despite their creative differences, at least didn’t make the character a pathetic old man who couldn’t do anything right.
@@whiplash9548you say this like its fact and not opinion lmao
@@homeslicebread8443 at the end of the day it is opinion, but no way anyone calls themselves an Indy fan and says that Dial of Destiny is a good movie.
@@whiplash9548 You say that like its fact and not an opinion
@@whiplash9548now that’s an opinion 😅
He said that because in the original script they wanted Sean Connery to come back.... and he was going to be laughing in this scene. 🤣🤣
I wish he was that would have made the movie better
@@anthonymanuel55000 I read that Sean Connery was enjoying his retirement at the time.
Han Solo: Somewhere, Your(Ben Solo) Force-Grunckle(Obi-Wan)is Laughing.
They did my boy Shia dirty
He did that to himself. His fame on Transformers got to his head, Harrison hated him, Spielberg hated him. Safe to say the rest hated him for being a Prima Donna.
The music in the background is Indy's father theme in The Last Crusade
So much damn bloom in this movie.
I think people will start enjoying Crystal Skull much more than they did, now that Dial of Destiny already came out and is proven to be a downer...
"Somewhere, your grandpa is laughing"
Funny thing is Sean Connery was still alive when this movie came out
A better movie than Dial of Dissapointment.
the true ending of Indy
Connery in theaters shouting, "I'm shtill alive!"
Not anymore he ain't
You know, Its actually a pretty decent Indy movie, Overtime I appreciate it more.... That ending always brings tears of joy!! Indy is smiling as he marries Marian!!!
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I've been saying it for years, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is not THAT bad.
Wow they ruined that ending with the new film. It’s just sad that they killed off Shia’s character
I might be the only person who prefers Crystal Skull to Dial of Destiny.
You're not. Kingdom of Crystal Skull was great (or at least, a pretty decent Indiana Jones movie) while Dial of Destiny was garbage.
I love this scene because now he understands why his relationship with his dad was the way it is
I still don't understand the hate this movie is getting the same applies to the prequel trilogy.
martians and swinging on the ropes like monkeys
Dial of Destiny........Crystal Skull looks like a masterpiece by comparison.
Somewhere, Harrison Ford's Grandpa is looking down thinking, "Why is my Grandson wearing that fruity little earring all the time?"
He hasn't worn it in 15 years.
@@JoaquinCruz-pq9ji His Grandpa still hasn't forgiven him
At least it was better than the new one
This hits harder now considering Sean is gone.
I don't like this movie, but I really like this scene.
There's is a lot of really dumb stuff in this movie, but I still really like it
And now they are laughing together... 😐
I miss Mutt already
Honestly its nice to see people talk good things about this movie. I always loved kingdom of the crystal skull
This movie is underrated. It wasn't it's fault the audience was too stupid and immature to understand the message. First off, them being aliens, was a reference to the change of movie genres from 30s to 40s action adventure, to 50s Sci-Fi and Horror. It's been like that since IJ was a thing as it was a tribute to the movies that came before. Second, regarding the aliens themselves. The humans had projected their own feelings on what aliens should be like only to find out that even with their immense power, they were no different than us in personality. Or as Indy would say it "They were Archeologists." Which coincides with another alien of Spielberg Lore, E.T. whom got left behind on a simple botany study mission. Meaning each species had a different walk of life that amalgamated into Earth culture. Then there's the last message. People much like Short Round in Temple of Doom, believed it was all about getting the fortune and glory. Knowledge was their alien's treasure. All that gold was an after thought because they were shaped in many things from Earth Culture that we now use plastic or glass versions of. Decor, cookware, tools, things like that. They weren't greedy, they were just curious about how we are, no different than we are curious about what it was really like during ancient times.
The main reason why people hate this movie? It's too educational for them.
This movie is a blast! I grew up with it. I agree it is worse than the trilogy but there’s actual emotion to this kind of scene (compared to Dial of Destiny, imo)
I remember thinking how old he looked at the time, looking back now he looks amazing for his age.
I felt they shouldnt have killed off Mutt. They should’ve just mentioned that he’s absent
Right? Just stating that Mutt is walking his own path and pursuing different goals far away from his parents would've been enough, and still would've played a contributing factor into Indy's feeling of being left behind by a changing world and loses loved ones to the passage of time. I know it still would've pissed fans off anyway due to the hopeful closure in KOTCS, but I don't think it's unrealistic that Indy and Mutt may not have been able to bond as strongly as they would've wanted, considering they were absent from each other's lives for 19 years.
Or you still could've had him fight in the Vietnam War, but is still alive thanks to Indy's tips as a former soldier himself. Or he could've deserted after realizing it wasn't a war worth fighting for and is living in exile to escape a court martial.
they should have put him back in the fifth but alive
They should've brought him back in the fifth, but dead. Weekend at Bernie's style, the film desperately needed some lighthearted fun.
This film not as good as the OG Trilogy but it's definitely not bad. It captures the Indiana Jones magic perfectly especially at the start in the warehouse. The only bad thing has to be the CGI and the aliens. Gotta say this is still better than dial of destiny. 7/10!
The first half is really quite fine, other than the fridge scene, but it really shits the bed in the second half. Its not just the CGI and aliens, the villains are unintimidating, Mack is the fucking worst, the sand pit scene is wretched, too many irritating supporting characters, and too much nostalgia baiting (and god only knows who that is for; I grew up on Indiana Jones, if I hate it, who likes it?). But I sadly have to admit it is better than Dial of Destiny, at least they didn't make Indy suicidally depressed.
Actually there’s not that much CGI. Most of it is real
The monkeys, the fridge and the waterfalls? yyyyyyeahhh….I got nothin’
Still a lot to appreciate about this one tho
Funny how everyone just seems to love kingdom of the crystal skull now
This movie is a million times better than dial of destiny
@Julianjulesr1361 Hollywood Shill.
The Numbers do not lie
@@ProjectGrandMarauderSomeone having a different opinion then you doesn’t make them a shill
@@user-hx6gs9rq7u Something you have to learn is that it stops being an opinion when the 4th installment was more profitable than this one. (Which is the case)
@@ProjectGrandMarauder A movie making more money then another doesn’t mean everyone has to like it more
@@user-hx6gs9rq7u It was a better movie.
I love this movie. And this scene, with Henry Jones' theme playing, Indy holding the forever beautiful Karen Allen...
Sean Connery: Hahaha 😄
I loved Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, but you have to admit: It is a conspiracy theorist's wet dream.
Say what you want, Indiana jones will always be my childhood favourite no matter what. Don’t let anyone tell you any different
Which grandpa is laughing: Abner Ravenwood or Henry Jones Sr or both
I always personally liked this movie
I liked crystal skull actually.....only thing I didnt like was the villians....the movie shouldnt of dealt with nazis AGAIN....should of been another archeologist that indy was going up against instead.
Kingdom will always be the end of Indy's story for me, the most beautiful and complete character conclusion. So glad to have the 4K box set of the 4 films, these look gorgeous in their new restaurations!
why dont you stick aoeud junior i love how henry jones jr becomes henry jones sr in this scene
This brings back fond memories. Worst ending to the worst Indiana Jones movie ever made. I love it.
Now there's a new worse movie
Me too.
Was actually a good ending
@@TheFrozenOne97the fact that you commented this 1 month before the movie came out, that’s just sad man
@@visualsinfilm98 And yet somehow he was right.
Mateus 11:28-30 ❤
Vinde a mim, todos os que estais cansados e sobrecarregados, e eu vos aliviarei. Tomai sobre vós o meu jugo e aprendei de mim, porque sou manso e humilde de coração; e achareis descanso para a vossa alma. Porque o meu jugo é suave, e o meu fardo é leve.
I'll watch this over Indy Bones & The Insufferable Fleabag.
Seeing this after Dial of Destiny, and my first thought is that Harrison Ford doesn't actually even look that old here.
Quite a significant age difference.
i like how all of a sudden we all agree that crystal skul lwasnt so bad afterall after that embarassing thing they call the end of indiana jones
This ending was a wholesome way to end the franchise, this new one just seems bitter and is frankly awful
I agree. While I did enjoy the film thematically, the movie itself felt unnecessary compared to this one. The 4th feels more upbeat and respectful.
Crystal Skull is a masterpiece compared to Dial of Desitny.
This was so much better than the new INBANANA BONES flop. uggh. You don't realize it until you go back and realize Lucas and Speilberg BOTH worked on it together. Such a big mistake letting someone else take over the franchise. Same with Jurassic Park Dominion.
If they had given Shias character less dumb moments like the swinging scene and more character building moments for him to become more mature then people would have liked him better.
Somewhere, the dial of destiny is laughing
Mutt dying in nam is insane
I love Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull. 🤠
Would’ve been cool to have had Sean Connery walk in at the wedding, at the very end scene, but they couldn’t get him so they killed him off
All of you saying that Crystal Skull is good would hate this movie if Mutt was a woman. Sorry to be an asshole, but that’s just the truth.
We don’t think Crystal Skull is good. We didn’t then, and we don’t now.
We just think it’s not as bad as that abomination that is The Dial of Destiny.
Those who want to see Dial of Destiny, I have one thing to tell you. It never happened.
Also I have grown to love Crystal Skull more over the years. Yes, it may seem ridiculous with some of the plot lines but it still keeps the the spirit & energy of the series.
Oh, so NOW people start to like this movie.
The amount of recent comments here is alarming.
it's because of the new movie. been like this for the last few weeks
This is the Toy Story 3 ending we were fine with than Disney decided we needed Toy Story 4 which was Dial