In just a short amount of time, we have seen two giants claiming to be the sun god. What if whoever can make the strongest claim to the sun god position gets crowned king? Hajrudin might have needed a fitting devil fruit to get the throne, so he competed for the fire based logia. Loki just went for the "easy route" of killing the old king for his fruit. Maybe in the style of an assassination instead of honourable combat. Seeing Luffy in the sun god form might be what unites all giantkind after years of warring.
Personally I think it’s the Loki God fruit model human or the Elbaph warrior god fruit like how Red & Blue Ogre talked about that warrior God in their duel on little garden.
- Since Oda likes to flip myths I can see this where Loki being the accursed prince is due to a misunderstandings where Harold died due to an accident or took the blame for his death especially where I can see after being rejected by Lola he became depressed & hated himself to the point of making himself look bad to the rest of the world - As for Oars the continent puller I have a theory that he was one of the original users for Sanjuan Wolf’s Huge-Huge Fruit that grants the user the ability to grow even bigger so imagine a giant Ancient Giant
@@Eventzz0might be but I’ll be honest outside of Disney princesses, love at first sight has never been legit. It might have been love but I honestly don’t think it’s that simple And him having his eyes covered sets off some alarm bells as well
I think it could be extremely humanising if Loki simply loved Lola because of who she was. If it were "love at first sight" he should have no problem marrying Chiffon, who he rejected. It could make him an extremely compelling villain if he truly loved Lola without any other underlying reason. Like a more evil Senor Pink, a bad guy with a true, doomed love
@@diarmuidlyonsnolan8687I was quoting the manga when I said love at first sight btw another thought is how did a daughter of Big Mom end up anywhere near a "prince" of Elbaph all I'm saying is its incredibly suspiciouse
Luffy heard a “roar” that gave him goosebumps right? I have a feeling that’s going to end up being Loki’s stomach growling. Luffy will want to feed him, as is tradition, and will free him, indirectly causing ragnarok.
most arcs start with someone feeding the magical crackhead who dismantles their evil government. imagine this arc starts with the magical crackhead feeding the "evil" monarch
3:24 another thing that ties harudine to Odin Is that they both cover One of their eyes, Odin Is missing One and harudine has those strange glasses broken on One side
I agree that Hajrudin and Loki have different parents, but I think this is what happened. After Loki "killed" the previous King (I put killed in quotes since I still have doubts regarding this), a new King was put on the throne. Normally, the prince will inherit the throne. However, in this case, the prince killed the King, so it would not be a good move to allow him to he the King. So another Giant was crowned as King. Perhaps this New King is a relative of the previous King. Now, that New King is Hajrudin's father, not the previous King who was killed.
Honestly, I think there is gunna be a big subversion to what we think is actually going on.. Loki was chained outta some kinda plot from another unknown faction and that faction runs Elbaph behind the scene like the Gorosei. But Loki being the big bad and Luffy releasing him make total sense as well. Who knows.
18:17 I've got 2 theories, though the second could also apply to the first. First: loki's fruit is a moon god fruit that masquerades itself as a sun god fruit, a slight nod to the fact that moonlight is just reflected sunlight. Second, I think he may have abilities not quite like hypnosis, but actually the ability to send anyone he makes eye contact with into a blind berserker's rage, attacking anything and anyone around them. Luffy may release loki, and as soon as he is free, he lifts the eye coverings and causes luffy to attack the forest creatures or maybe even a giant village
@Dak’s Sake, I was thinking the same exact thing about inversion with Yamato’s fruit but with an Amaterasu (shinto sun god) fruit. Amaterasu is also portrayed as a wolf.
A paramecia rune fruit that would be like goldenweeks power. Oars chained in the cold like Ymir, Loki chained talking about being a sun god sounds like surtur.
Idk man Loki just gives me goat man vibes. Goats/lambs have a tie to religion and religious practices too. Like the "blood of the lamb" could be what links hyrudin and Loki together. Road has a dear skull thinking he was mimicking the sun god but maybe Loki GENUINELY believes he's the sun god but he has a goat fruit. I feel like he will almost definitely have a different type of eye/pupil which will tie into the goat then even more. Goats even have ties to the Norse as well. Even the devil itself is depicted with a goat head.
I think loki is a " good guy" but like kidd. Kidd isntva good person but hes not an atagonist hes just a guy who aligns with the evil side but he usually ends up on luffy side due to plot. Basically vegeta. So i can see loki becomes loyal to kidd n hajrudin is loyal to luffy n by the end the 2 giants get along but support other teams. I go by the elitdz theory that kid is also a sun god but luffy is the god of liberation n kid is the god of battle
This is post Gear 5th. Luffy is adventuring across a new island, finding someone powerful; of course he's happy. I'm not even saying he's evil, but by that logic, Luffy should have immediately known that York was evil if he has some morality future sight.
Big mom: I'd be the strongest if I had the elbaf giant's army World govt: Just fighting one yonko was difficult for us. Luffy: Already a yonko. Has the king of the giants as his subordinate
I feel like Loki having the devil fruit, whatever it is, may be what "corrupted" him. We already know zoans have their own wills, and that if they take over the user we get something like the demon guards from Impel down. now imagine if it was some Norse legend like Fenrir, it's entirely possible it just took over and made him how he is now
Dragon does have a weather controlling fruit, there’s a lot of context to already deduce what dragons fruit is with a very high likelihood (there could always be a curve ball). - dragon has ties to Latin America as Luffy has been stated to be from Brazil by oda were he in the real world - Latin America is plagued by revolutions and revolutionary factions - dragons face tattoo is very similar in design to tattoos worn by the incans - dragons ship is named “wind granma” and the name of the yacht that took Fidel Castro and other revolutionaries from Mexico to cuba was named “granma” - the amaru is the god of wind, rain and storms in incan mythology - it is a dragon like, feathered serpent creature with 2 heads, wings, two forearms with claws. - the amaru is referenced to as “dragon” in incan culture for its appearance - the amaru is stated in mythology to “be the bringer of rain, *revolution, and the winds of change* .” - the amaru has the ability to create and control sudden changes in weather - the figurehead on dragons ship is a serpentine creature - the image of the revolutionary army flag is a 2 headed draconian creature with wings - sabo uses a signature “dragon claw” move - the amaru has strong ties to Mother Nature and is therefore symbolically tied to earth for its ability to control its weather patterns - amaru has a relationship with the sun god in incan mythology - the earth, which would be represented by the amaru and thus dragon, is the last missing planet in the planetary theme of Luffy imu and the gorosei, thus being the final piece to the puzzle for the clash. Luffy + dragon vs imu & gorosei If dragons fruit isn’t the mythical Zoan snake snake fruit: model amaru it will be the biggest curve ball in OP because I swear it fits too perfectly.
we all know one piece movies are often a sneek peek of what the future lies ahead. what if Ann's Vision-Vision Fruit from stampede is actually loki's fruit. Then his power will be like marvel's loki, but this loki can cast large scale illusion. Perhaps, his fruit is in legendary status because he can make something invisible or disappear, like an entire island (maybe nobody can find laughtale because of that). Just some random thoughts.......
first off king harold is inspired in shrek 2. He will have been transformed in a frog, not killed, and loki has been framed. If he is chained up, Harold is out of the picture and Hajrudin is out there being a pirate with 2 nobodies and the Island's weirdo, who is sitting in the throne? The person stting on throne right now, be it a regent or a third child of Harold's, is the one behind it all (90% serious theory) Edit? the cannons in Elbaph are pointing upwards, i don't even think they can really be aimed at the sea, sky islands are gonna be rly big in this arc. Especially when u consider how Enel had a whole cover page dedicated to him and all cover page characters come back in a huge way
Love this😊 it's somewhat similar to what I was thinking on the day he was born one of the old warriors died and the orphanage burned down and big mom went in a rampage and mother caramel got eaten they believe that bad luck follows Loki in a way
A thought came to my mind and I can't stop thinking about it. Ok so luffy's fruit is gum gum fruit that stretches and much later it was revealed its sun god nika fruit so what exactly is common between rubber and the sun. Sun is made of plasma a unique state where the electrons go away from the nucleus which if you put in a different perspective you can say the electrons go free and far away like luffy can stretch far away, if plasma can be connected to the rubber aspect of luffy's devil fruit power. Another factor that plasma has that in order to exist it needs to be super hot, here comes ace's fruit the mera mera no mi, its a wild guess but what if mera mera no mi is the heat that luffy requires in order to obtain the literal powers of the sun.
I also like to point out this the third time Luffy met first time someone who tied or chain up And Loki devil fruit might be zoan type giving him a special abilities of sight Maybe that's why his eyes is covered, and Loki might be Luffy greatest challenge not only to fight but also tried to bond with Loki goals actually tied well with Luffy goals
I think it will be a logia fruit related to an element of planets(maybe gas giant fruit, or ice since Uranus)that would let him grow to a size like the shadows from pre skypia letting him wield the sword in some way. Although this is more of a hope since I think a character that dwarfs even giant luffy or zunesha would be great and awesome.(I don’t care enough to check but isn’t there also some reference to a massive being, maybe that’s this??)
I really like the idea of Loki's devil fruit being the third Ancient Weopon. Who ever eats that devil fruit becomes as strong as Ancient Weopon. Becase we know that Ancient weopons are strong enough to destroy the world. If Loki has that devil fruit than maybe he will really start the Ragnarok.
16:13 hadn’t noticed before but Robin is sweating here and is at a loss for words. Oftentimes Robin is stoic and doesn’t react to things. This makes me think she knows something about the fruit. Let me elaborate. Robin has a whole deal about not telling the straw hats info she finds out from poneglyphs, like the fish man island poneglyph, the Poseidon poneglyph, etc. Her hearing about the fruit makes me think it is Uranus after watching her face. Only things that big actually give her a pause. What do y’all think?
He has the zoan fenrir model. Fenrir was a massive wolf in myth who was chained up and released starting ragnarok. The wolves around him also supports this.
The closest i can think of of royal families passing down fruits are alabasta’s guardians, pell and the dog guy My favorite options for loki’s fruit is a resin logia or plasma logia
My only problem with the Logia theory is that we're kind of out of elements? There's outliers like Karasu's Soot-Soot Fruit, but aside from that and maybe another or two that I'm forgetting, every Logia is a traditional element and frankly I don't see a "Sun-Sun" or "Solar-Solar" Fruit being a Logia, since I feel like it'd be a better form of both the Flame-Flame AND Glint-Glint Fruits. Unless Oda wants to break our minds with a logic-defying Water-Water Fruit.
Either way, it's gonna be epic and can't wait to see how much of Norse mythology and Scandinavian culture oda puts into this. With the yggdrasil tree I'm wondering if we'll see different races like dwarves( not the tontatta), elves, and other giant subspecies that only exist on elbaf.
Heard a theory that loki's df might be based on surtur from Ragnarok. He is a fire giant who has large horns protruding from his head has control over fire and even wields a giant sword. He's known as the strongest fire giant in legend.
The Yami Yami no Mi is our special logia. Unrelated note, I think what separates the special paramecia from a logia is that their "elements" are man-made. To use Gasparde as an example, I think if he were a canon character his candy syrup fruit would be a special paramecia.
Best option for another fire logia is the plasma plasma fruit so Loki can use all spectrum of plasma attacks i.e., fire, lightning,light, gases and possibly blood attacks, it would make Loki a mini ancient weapon, a mini Uranus if u will
Hajrudin being after the fire fruit specifically is an interesting detail. Because yes, Loki is the one who wants to bring about Ragnarök and he is technically a jötun (so, a giant) rather than one of the aesir like his brother Thor. But there are other prominent figures aswell and I think that the one who is interesting in this context is Surtr, leader of the fire giants of Muspelheim. Hajrudin with the fire fruit would be the next best thing.
I think Loki's fruit is the Gomu Gomu no mi . ... I mean : the fruit passed through the Elbaf royalty is none other than the actual uncatalogued Gomu Gomu no mi , though to be the Nika fruit by Elbaf . Not necessarily the same fruit as pre-skip Luffy , but it could be the same misunderstanding we had with Luffy's fruit but reversed . It would explain why Loki's all "im the sun god", and dude's been relentlessly trying to awaken the Nika form without knowing it isn't a Zoan . Also, there already is an "special" logia : blackbeard's fruit
"if yggdrasil dies, world of the gods will die with it" , the redline the land where the celestial dragons and where the lunarians who were considered god resided, perhaps its connected to yggdrasil in some way
My first thought seeing that sword is that there is no one we know of big enough to wield it. Then I thought about how Oda it would be to have Zunesha wave around a giant sword. That would be peak
I really hope it’s not a mythical zoan or a “sun sun fruit” because we already have ovens hot fruit, aces fire, and freaking magma we’ve pretty much covered the whole fire spectrum here
Maybe a giant colluded with the gov to swap devil fruits or maybe totally just stole with the giants still not knowing, which would mean Loki didn't eat any fruit he killed his father for.
I doubt Katakuri's devil fruit is special class anymore since it was only called that due to being so close to Luffy's devil fruit and them both being in the same category.
What if Loki has the gomu gomu no mi? (Since we know Luffy doesn’t and it’s implied already, at least by [buccaneers?], that it’s already known Mika had a stretchy body) So he might think of himself as the sungod, opposed to Luffy who thinks he’s a rubber man- when the reality is vice versa
i really want it to be a logia fruit loki with a logia would be tough, mythical zoans are boring now as well. We haven't seen a new logia fruit since marineford? (idk, that's when I last remember logias). The return of logias would be exciting currently haki negates them but some special logia would definitely be very intresting.
100% A logia that controls the sky, perhaps even a cloud logia, generates GIANT sky islands for himself and his elbaph warriors, and FLY to mariejois, also maybe enel comes down and fights them, maybe joins them, maybe he learned haki with aliens and is now super duper strong?? (joke), lmao anyways its most likely a cloud logia, and this also ties into the giant beanstalk with giants in the sky, so makes a lot of sense.
So obviously hyrudjin is out trying to find another legendary devil fruit because his brother his younger brother surpassed him by killing his father and stealing the fruit that was supposed to be the next in line kings devil which was suppose to be hyrudin...loki backstabbed him and tryed to take his throne
Remember, Uranus can be a person or a fruit, just like Poseidon is a person. So it may be a fruit Loli ate I understand why some think the gov is using an ancient weapon, as vegapunk said the mother flame could burn infinitely, suggesting it can power something infinitely like an ancient weapon. He said that. Uranus is the only one we don't know is safe from the gov, but I'd bet uranus is on elbaf or in the sky islands above it. But if the gov used vegapunk's tech to make a giant weapon like uranus, he would've said that. So it's either Uranus or a secret other weapon that Imu's side used against Joyboy in the war, one of these is what the mother flame powered to blow up lulusia
If Elbaf really takes temperament into consideration to exclude Loki from leading the country, that would make the country of "barbarian meathead fighters" more wise than the Marines, who settled their leadership contest in a brute force duel.
I think death of loki will be the ragnarok because we didnt see him in the posters when vegapunk talked about those who will be in endgame (even though we saw a shadow of unintroduced character it wasnt loki) I think he will be killed which will impact luffy so much that the endgame will happen and we will see the most strong luffy we have seen so far.
I just wanna clarify that Vegapunk confirmed that Imu has an ancient weapon. Since we know poisedon is in Fishman island As well as Pluton being in Wano So I doubt Your theory connects on that
I agree with Dak Sake that fish man island, but Wano and Elbaph are the big three of onepiece, but I also think that after egghead Oda is no longer doing setups and is jumping right into things which make me think Elbaph will not be as long as people think. We are going to an arc where the setting is already setup and the straw hats are not going to be the real main cast but the catalyst to start ragnarock
Is it not the Land Of War, not Elbaf? since we on the psychedelic route Tony Tony's DF is a mushroom( jango ate a shroom) as well, plus reindeers in fables are known to fly. chopper may get a power up?
i'm so certain that lola's reason is a joke setup by oda.. like they're setting it up like WHAT could loki have done that's SO BAD that 'marriage proposal Lola' would reject him? and still fall in love w someone like absalom. and it's gonna be something like "i wasn't attracted to him" or something completely normal LOL
Loki,s fruit Might be an illusion demon Fruit the glamour glamour fruit If it’s awakened he can make illusions tangible making entire armys or making himself bigger than other giants that Could be why it took all the Elbaf giants to take him down
So this might have been brought up a few times by now. But if there are so many sun gods ( 2 claimed to be so on elbaph) what if luffy isnt a sun god but just the god of freedom.
What if Loki didn't get the legendary devil fruit he killed his father for, and that fruit is Luffy's gum gum fruit that he ate? Loki didn't know his father lost the fruit awhile back. And the Ragnarok he wants to bring is actually just what the giants' legends say Nika will do to the world government, tear it down and maybe blow up red line with the ancient weapons. That would mean he could either be an ally of Luffy or an enemy. I feel he'll be more like Crocodile in his personality and just have his own motives and shift around
Are those chains the same metal as the collar Nami had to release Chopper from recently? And does it tie back to Amber Lead or whatever Law was Poisoned by as a child? The Ol Fathers Flame and the Mother Flame it possibly inspired is something I've been thinking about with Vegapunk having spent time reading the O'Hara books o. Elbaph, but with that metal holding Chopper down is it possible Vegapunk also invented Sea Prism tech off of the metal in Elbaph?
Would make sense to me if the Nika fruit was supposed to be for the giant king. Somehow it falls in the hands of the marines and then Shanks was tasked with retrieving it. In order for Loki to get it back, he’ll have to destroy Luffy.
I don't think Loki is the villain of Elbaph Arc. In anime, except the main character, nobody talks about a villain that the villain is the most evil character. If people are directly telling that he is villain, you know something is wrong. The way Dorry Broggy and all the other giants are calling Loki that he is the worst thing ever happened to Elbaph, *it's kinda obvious that Loki is innocent and he is being set up by someone, who might be the real villain* . I think Luffy will free Loki or try to free Loki then Luffy will immediately ask Loki to join the Strawhats.
Hang on there, I don’t think that we should say getting one shot by G2 Luffy using Haki is something to be disappointed about. G2 is already pretty strong, and sure, It can’t hang with monsters such as Doffy and Kaido, but it’s still a considerable power boost.
I didn't see that he ate it, just says he sought after it, and to be fair if he did eat it, they probably have him in seastone chains, but I looks more like he lost it in the scuffle or didn't get to eat it after killing for it.
Loki became a gym bro after his love Lola said no
I want a theory video of this too 😂
Maybe he's just been eating way less now that he's kicked out of his palace
Canon
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In just a short amount of time, we have seen two giants claiming to be the sun god. What if whoever can make the strongest claim to the sun god position gets crowned king? Hajrudin might have needed a fitting devil fruit to get the throne, so he competed for the fire based logia.
Loki just went for the "easy route" of killing the old king for his fruit. Maybe in the style of an assassination instead of honourable combat.
Seeing Luffy in the sun god form might be what unites all giantkind after years of warring.
He probably killed him for the fruit to reincarnate and not have to wait another 100 years for him to die of old age
Personally I think it’s the Loki God fruit model human or the Elbaph warrior god fruit like how Red & Blue Ogre talked about that warrior God in their duel on little garden.
- Since Oda likes to flip myths I can see this where Loki being the accursed prince is due to a misunderstandings where Harold died due to an accident or took the blame for his death especially where I can see after being rejected by Lola he became depressed & hated himself to the point of making himself look bad to the rest of the world
- As for Oars the continent puller I have a theory that he was one of the original users for Sanjuan Wolf’s Huge-Huge Fruit that grants the user the ability to grow even bigger so imagine a giant Ancient Giant
A giant ancient giant would be massive
That's a big mistranslation by Viz. He 's not a continent puller, he's a Land Puller or Country Puller.
Oda is a God when it comes to fake outs with silhouettes. Loki turned out to have one of the most badass designs for one piece villains
Rather than why Lola turned Loki down, a better question is why Loki wanted to marry Lola.
Bc he loved her
@@Eventzz0might be but I’ll be honest outside of Disney princesses, love at first sight has never been legit. It might have been love but I honestly don’t think it’s that simple
And him having his eyes covered sets off some alarm bells as well
you know nothing of love
I think it could be extremely humanising if Loki simply loved Lola because of who she was. If it were "love at first sight" he should have no problem marrying Chiffon, who he rejected. It could make him an extremely compelling villain if he truly loved Lola without any other underlying reason. Like a more evil Senor Pink, a bad guy with a true, doomed love
@@diarmuidlyonsnolan8687I was quoting the manga when I said love at first sight btw
another thought is how did a daughter of Big Mom end up anywhere near a "prince" of Elbaph
all I'm saying is its incredibly suspiciouse
Luffy heard a “roar” that gave him goosebumps right? I have a feeling that’s going to end up being Loki’s stomach growling. Luffy will want to feed him, as is tradition, and will free him, indirectly causing ragnarok.
I know oda is unpredictable but I am sure he doesn't make a parody out of the whole Elbaf arc.😂
I just want Luffy to ask him to join his crew. Like how would he fit in the ship size wise lol
@@chaoticdreams9467 maybe a new ship , Franky can use the wood from the tree in the middle to make it
@@chaoticdreams9467 bro gon have a trailer 🤣🤣🤣
most arcs start with someone feeding the magical crackhead who dismantles their evil government. imagine this arc starts with the magical crackhead feeding the "evil" monarch
Oda’s take on his Norse Mythology influence in One Piece is a lot more interesting than I thought
Big Mom really tried to marry her daughter off to someone who is like 9 years younger than her
Big mom’s first husband met her when she was like 8
3:24 another thing that ties harudine to Odin Is that they both cover One of their eyes, Odin Is missing One and harudine has those strange glasses broken on One side
I agree that Hajrudin and Loki have different parents, but I think this is what happened. After Loki "killed" the previous King (I put killed in quotes since I still have doubts regarding this), a new King was put on the throne. Normally, the prince will inherit the throne. However, in this case, the prince killed the King, so it would not be a good move to allow him to he the King. So another Giant was crowned as King. Perhaps this New King is a relative of the previous King. Now, that New King is Hajrudin's father, not the previous King who was killed.
How do you pronounce Hajruden?he says it like “Hah-roo-deen” instead of “hah-j-roo-deh-n”. I’m pretty sure he’s pronouncing it wrong but maybe not
I think I'll sleep 22 minutes late
i agree
I can’t sleep at all and stumbled upon this video.
Honestly, I think there is gunna be a big subversion to what we think is actually going on.. Loki was chained outta some kinda plot from another unknown faction and that faction runs Elbaph behind the scene like the Gorosei.
But Loki being the big bad and Luffy releasing him make total sense as well. Who knows.
18:17 I've got 2 theories, though the second could also apply to the first.
First: loki's fruit is a moon god fruit that masquerades itself as a sun god fruit, a slight nod to the fact that moonlight is just reflected sunlight.
Second, I think he may have abilities not quite like hypnosis, but actually the ability to send anyone he makes eye contact with into a blind berserker's rage, attacking anything and anyone around them. Luffy may release loki, and as soon as he is free, he lifts the eye coverings and causes luffy to attack the forest creatures or maybe even a giant village
@Dak’s Sake, I was thinking the same exact thing about inversion with Yamato’s fruit but with an Amaterasu (shinto sun god) fruit. Amaterasu is also portrayed as a wolf.
A paramecia rune fruit that would be like goldenweeks power. Oars chained in the cold like Ymir, Loki chained talking about being a sun god sounds like surtur.
@@thewillofdreams6921 loki being chained up reminds me more of fenrir
Idk man Loki just gives me goat man vibes. Goats/lambs have a tie to religion and religious practices too. Like the "blood of the lamb" could be what links hyrudin and Loki together. Road has a dear skull thinking he was mimicking the sun god but maybe Loki GENUINELY believes he's the sun god but he has a goat fruit. I feel like he will almost definitely have a different type of eye/pupil which will tie into the goat then even more. Goats even have ties to the Norse as well. Even the devil itself is depicted with a goat head.
Branch logias are something I’ve hypothesized about before my faves are emotion logias and landscape logias
I think loki is a " good guy" but like kidd. Kidd isntva good person but hes not an atagonist hes just a guy who aligns with the evil side but he usually ends up on luffy side due to plot. Basically vegeta.
So i can see loki becomes loyal to kidd n hajrudin is loyal to luffy n by the end the 2 giants get along but support other teams.
I go by the elitdz theory that kid is also a sun god but luffy is the god of liberation n kid is the god of battle
I hope Loki is super evil vs being misunderstood, but either way this goes, I'm all for it.
There is no way he’s super evil if Luffy is happy to be seeing him
This is post Gear 5th. Luffy is adventuring across a new island, finding someone powerful; of course he's happy.
I'm not even saying he's evil, but by that logic, Luffy should have immediately known that York was evil if he has some morality future sight.
@@Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan he's gotta be dangerous luffy felt his aura and it gave him goosebumps
Big mom: I'd be the strongest if I had the elbaf giant's army
World govt: Just fighting one yonko was difficult for us.
Luffy: Already a yonko. Has the king of the giants as his subordinate
I feel like Loki having the devil fruit, whatever it is, may be what "corrupted" him. We already know zoans have their own wills, and that if they take over the user we get something like the demon guards from Impel down. now imagine if it was some Norse legend like Fenrir, it's entirely possible it just took over and made him how he is now
Loki variant 1130 is your answer, ie the chapter number
I feel like Dragon has a weather controlling fruit. But I guess Loki may instead
Dragon does have a weather controlling fruit, there’s a lot of context to already deduce what dragons fruit is with a very high likelihood (there could always be a curve ball).
- dragon has ties to Latin America as Luffy has been stated to be from Brazil by oda were he in the real world
- Latin America is plagued by revolutions and revolutionary factions
- dragons face tattoo is very similar in design to tattoos worn by the incans
- dragons ship is named “wind granma” and the name of the yacht that took Fidel Castro and other revolutionaries from Mexico to cuba was named “granma”
- the amaru is the god of wind, rain and storms in incan mythology
- it is a dragon like, feathered serpent creature with 2 heads, wings, two forearms with claws.
- the amaru is referenced to as “dragon” in incan culture for its appearance
- the amaru is stated in mythology to “be the bringer of rain, *revolution, and the winds of change* .”
- the amaru has the ability to create and control sudden changes in weather
- the figurehead on dragons ship is a serpentine creature
- the image of the revolutionary army flag is a 2 headed draconian creature with wings
- sabo uses a signature “dragon claw” move
- the amaru has strong ties to Mother Nature and is therefore symbolically tied to earth for its ability to control its weather patterns
- amaru has a relationship with the sun god in incan mythology
- the earth, which would be represented by the amaru and thus dragon, is the last missing planet in the planetary theme of Luffy imu and the gorosei, thus being the final piece to the puzzle for the clash. Luffy + dragon vs imu & gorosei
If dragons fruit isn’t the mythical Zoan snake snake fruit: model amaru it will be the biggest curve ball in OP because I swear it fits too perfectly.
we all know one piece movies are often a sneek peek of what the future lies ahead. what if Ann's Vision-Vision Fruit from stampede is actually loki's fruit. Then his power will be like marvel's loki, but this loki can cast large scale illusion. Perhaps, his fruit is in legendary status because he can make something invisible or disappear, like an entire island (maybe nobody can find laughtale because of that). Just some random thoughts.......
Fun fact: King Harold is one of my grandfathers multiple times over🙃
Fenrir is also the one who bit off Tyr’s arm, symbolised through Shanks, and maybe Kidd.
first off king harold is inspired in shrek 2. He will have been transformed in a frog, not killed, and loki has been framed. If he is chained up, Harold is out of the picture and Hajrudin is out there being a pirate with 2 nobodies and the Island's weirdo, who is sitting in the throne? The person stting on throne right now, be it a regent or a third child of Harold's, is the one behind it all (90% serious theory)
Edit? the cannons in Elbaph are pointing upwards, i don't even think they can really be aimed at the sea, sky islands are gonna be rly big in this arc. Especially when u consider how Enel had a whole cover page dedicated to him and all cover page characters come back in a huge way
Love this😊 it's somewhat similar to what I was thinking on the day he was born one of the old warriors died and the orphanage burned down and big mom went in a rampage and mother caramel got eaten they believe that bad luck follows Loki in a way
I could see Loki's weather fruit either being called the Taiki Taiki no mi or the Kiken Kiken no mi an atmosphere devil fruit
imagine he looks exactly the same as the silloutte but he just has an illusion fruit
i think if loki does have a mythical zoan it would be cool if he had a world serpent fruit
A thought came to my mind and I can't stop thinking about it. Ok so luffy's fruit is gum gum fruit that stretches and much later it was revealed its sun god nika fruit so what exactly is common between rubber and the sun.
Sun is made of plasma a unique state where the electrons go away from the nucleus which if you put in a different perspective you can say the electrons go free and far away like luffy can stretch far away, if plasma can be connected to the rubber aspect of luffy's devil fruit power. Another factor that plasma has that in order to exist it needs to be super hot, here comes ace's fruit the mera mera no mi, its a wild guess but what if mera mera no mi is the heat that luffy requires in order to obtain the literal powers of the sun.
words cannot describe how exited i am for the elbaf arc, oda's really ending off witha bang
I also like to point out this the third time Luffy met first time someone who tied or chain up
And Loki devil fruit might be zoan type giving him a special abilities of sight
Maybe that's why his eyes is covered, and Loki might be Luffy greatest challenge not only to fight but also tried to bond with
Loki goals actually tied well with Luffy goals
All I learned from this video is to NEVER trust an Oda silhouette EVER again 😂
I think it will be a logia fruit related to an element of planets(maybe gas giant fruit, or ice since Uranus)that would let him grow to a size like the shadows from pre skypia letting him wield the sword in some way. Although this is more of a hope since I think a character that dwarfs even giant luffy or zunesha would be great and awesome.(I don’t care enough to check but isn’t there also some reference to a massive being, maybe that’s this??)
I really like the idea of Loki's devil fruit being the third Ancient Weopon. Who ever eats that devil fruit becomes as strong as Ancient Weopon. Becase we know that Ancient weopons are strong enough to destroy the world. If Loki has that devil fruit than maybe he will really start the Ragnarok.
I love the idea of Enel returning! I hope so, excited to catch up w and find out about Enel
16:13 hadn’t noticed before but Robin is sweating here and is at a loss for words. Oftentimes Robin is stoic and doesn’t react to things. This makes me think she knows something about the fruit.
Let me elaborate. Robin has a whole deal about not telling the straw hats info she finds out from poneglyphs, like the fish man island poneglyph, the Poseidon poneglyph, etc. Her hearing about the fruit makes me think it is Uranus after watching her face. Only things that big actually give her a pause. What do y’all think?
He has the zoan fenrir model. Fenrir was a massive wolf in myth who was chained up and released starting ragnarok. The wolves around him also supports this.
13:00 If the ancient weapons are made by Joyboy's side, maybe Gear 5 activates them, like the Iron Giant
The closest i can think of of royal families passing down fruits are alabasta’s guardians, pell and the dog guy
My favorite options for loki’s fruit is a resin logia or plasma logia
My only problem with the Logia theory is that we're kind of out of elements? There's outliers like Karasu's Soot-Soot Fruit, but aside from that and maybe another or two that I'm forgetting, every Logia is a traditional element and frankly I don't see a "Sun-Sun" or "Solar-Solar" Fruit being a Logia, since I feel like it'd be a better form of both the Flame-Flame AND Glint-Glint Fruits. Unless Oda wants to break our minds with a logic-defying Water-Water Fruit.
Banger video I can’t wait for him to show us what he got
Either way, it's gonna be epic and can't wait to see how much of Norse mythology and Scandinavian culture oda puts into this. With the yggdrasil tree I'm wondering if we'll see different races like dwarves( not the tontatta), elves, and other giant subspecies that only exist on elbaf.
It would be cool to see Devil Fruit using Giants especially ones with Logia powers.**
Heard a theory that loki's df might be based on surtur from Ragnarok. He is a fire giant who has large horns protruding from his head has control over fire and even wields a giant sword. He's known as the strongest fire giant in legend.
11:33 yes we have pell and the other dude in alabastas fruits were passed through the alabasta royal family
To me the setup of Loki and harudin right now reminds me of the dynamic between Griffith and guts at the end of the golden age
The Yami Yami no Mi is our special logia. Unrelated note, I think what separates the special paramecia from a logia is that their "elements" are man-made. To use Gasparde as an example, I think if he were a canon character his candy syrup fruit would be a special paramecia.
Maybe a giant giant devil fruit was eaten by a giant ...and only that person can wield the giant sword ???
San juan wolf ate it lol, confirmed in hachinosu, but maybe an ancient giant ate it!!
Best option for another fire logia is the plasma plasma fruit so Loki can use all spectrum of plasma attacks i.e., fire, lightning,light, gases and possibly blood attacks, it would make Loki a mini ancient weapon, a mini Uranus if u will
Prince Loki in terms of design reminds me of Van Hallen from the Dexter's Lab's shorts the Justice Friends
Hajrudin being after the fire fruit specifically is an interesting detail.
Because yes, Loki is the one who wants to bring about Ragnarök and he is technically a jötun (so, a giant) rather than one of the aesir like his brother Thor.
But there are other prominent figures aswell and I think that the one who is interesting in this context is Surtr, leader of the fire giants of Muspelheim.
Hajrudin with the fire fruit would be the next best thing.
I think Loki's fruit is the Gomu Gomu no mi .
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I mean : the fruit passed through the Elbaf royalty is none other than the actual uncatalogued Gomu Gomu no mi , though to be the Nika fruit by Elbaf .
Not necessarily the same fruit as pre-skip Luffy , but it could be the same misunderstanding we had with Luffy's fruit but reversed .
It would explain why Loki's all "im the sun god", and dude's been relentlessly trying to awaken the Nika form without knowing it isn't a Zoan .
Also, there already is an "special" logia : blackbeard's fruit
"if yggdrasil dies, world of the gods will die with it" , the redline the land where the celestial dragons and where the lunarians who were considered god resided, perhaps its connected to yggdrasil in some way
Gosh bro we still got so much to learn it’s just crazy
My first thought seeing that sword is that there is no one we know of big enough to wield it. Then I thought about how Oda it would be to have Zunesha wave around a giant sword. That would be peak
Thriller Bark mentioned in like the first minute, Dak knows how to keep me hooked lmao
Oh damn, just noticed hajrudin's damaged helmet has his left eye covered like what luffy has going with his scar!
I really hope it’s not a mythical zoan or a “sun sun fruit” because we already have ovens hot fruit, aces fire, and freaking magma we’ve pretty much covered the whole fire spectrum here
Maybe a giant colluded with the gov to swap devil fruits or maybe totally just stole with the giants still not knowing, which would mean Loki didn't eat any fruit he killed his father for.
I doubt Katakuri's devil fruit is special class anymore since it was only called that due to being so close to Luffy's devil fruit and them both being in the same category.
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Uranus is with Imu, is what destroyed Lulusia powered by the Mother Flame
I think Loki has the actual gum gum fruit aka the true rubber fruit but every one thinks it’s the nika fruit as they look the same.
@Elimaybe616 there's no gum gum fruit, it's been established already
@@dresdenwinterknight9553 rubber rubber fruit then. Just he has the fruit that luffy thinks he has and vise versa.
Same thing, tremor tremor quake quake
@@Elimaybe616no we literally know a rubber or gum fruit doesn’t exist
It’s like the ONLY fruit it can’t be
chill on the ads bro, apart from that, awesome vid!
What if Loki has the gomu gomu no mi? (Since we know Luffy doesn’t and it’s implied already, at least by [buccaneers?], that it’s already known Mika had a stretchy body)
So he might think of himself as the sungod, opposed to Luffy who thinks he’s a rubber man- when the reality is vice versa
i really want it to be a logia fruit loki with a logia would be tough, mythical zoans are boring now as well. We haven't seen a new logia fruit since marineford? (idk, that's when I last remember logias). The return of logias would be exciting currently haki negates them but some special logia would definitely be very intresting.
100% A logia that controls the sky, perhaps even a cloud logia, generates GIANT sky islands for himself and his elbaph warriors, and FLY to mariejois, also maybe enel comes down and fights them, maybe joins them, maybe he learned haki with aliens and is now super duper strong?? (joke), lmao anyways its most likely a cloud logia, and this also ties into the giant beanstalk with giants in the sky, so makes a lot of sense.
So obviously hyrudjin is out trying to find another legendary devil fruit because his brother his younger brother surpassed him by killing his father and stealing the fruit that was supposed to be the next in line kings devil which was suppose to be hyrudin...loki backstabbed him and tryed to take his throne
If Loki joins he definately fighting Colossal giant BB crew awsome match
Did that text just say his fists clash like thunder, sounds more like harudin is the thor parallel.
Remember, Uranus can be a person or a fruit, just like Poseidon is a person. So it may be a fruit Loli ate
I understand why some think the gov is using an ancient weapon, as vegapunk said the mother flame could burn infinitely, suggesting it can power something infinitely like an ancient weapon. He said that.
Uranus is the only one we don't know is safe from the gov, but I'd bet uranus is on elbaf or in the sky islands above it. But if the gov used vegapunk's tech to make a giant weapon like uranus, he would've said that. So it's either Uranus or a secret other weapon that Imu's side used against Joyboy in the war, one of these is what the mother flame powered to blow up lulusia
If Elbaf really takes temperament into consideration to exclude Loki from leading the country, that would make the country of "barbarian meathead fighters" more wise than the Marines, who settled their leadership contest in a brute force duel.
I think death of loki will be the ragnarok because we didnt see him in the posters when vegapunk talked about those who will be in endgame (even though we saw a shadow of unintroduced character it wasnt loki) I think he will be killed which will impact luffy so much that the endgame will happen and we will see the most strong luffy we have seen so far.
I just wanna clarify that Vegapunk confirmed that Imu has an ancient weapon.
Since we know poisedon is in Fishman island
As well as Pluton being in Wano
So I doubt Your theory connects on that
It is definitely a Mythical Zoan. It will either be a Fenrir 'The force of evil and chaos' or a Surtr 'The fire Giant.'
I agree with Dak Sake that fish man island, but Wano and Elbaph are the big three of onepiece, but I also think that after egghead Oda is no longer doing setups and is jumping right into things which make me think Elbaph will not be as long as people think. We are going to an arc where the setting is already setup and the straw hats are not going to be the real main cast but the catalyst to start ragnarock
If Loki has a logia, I could see it being a plasma-plasma fruit since that's what the sun and all stars are made of
Is it not the Land Of War, not Elbaf? since we on the psychedelic route Tony Tony's DF is a mushroom( jango ate a shroom) as well, plus reindeers in fables are known to fly. chopper may get a power up?
i'm so certain that lola's reason is a joke setup by oda.. like they're setting it up like WHAT could loki have done that's SO BAD that 'marriage proposal Lola' would reject him? and still fall in love w someone like absalom. and it's gonna be something like "i wasn't attracted to him" or something completely normal LOL
like another version of the momo's fruit joke with vegapunk
Loki,s fruit
Might be an illusion demon
Fruit the glamour glamour fruit
If it’s awakened he can make illusions tangible making entire armys or making himself bigger than other giants that
Could be why it took all the Elbaf giants to take him down
Does anybody wonder if the RODE poniglyphs were created by the new character Rode ??? And thats why there called Rode poniglyphs ??? 🤔🔥💯
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Maybe Hajrudin is an illegitimate sibling of Loki.
Around 25 years ago in real life, Elbaph was introduced.
25 years ago in the One Piece timeline, the last Road Poneglyph went missing
Stares MF’erly 😐
love the vids, thanks! 😃
So this might have been brought up a few times by now. But if there are so many sun gods ( 2 claimed to be so on elbaph) what if luffy isnt a sun god but just the god of freedom.
What if Loki didn't get the legendary devil fruit he killed his father for, and that fruit is Luffy's gum gum fruit that he ate? Loki didn't know his father lost the fruit awhile back. And the Ragnarok he wants to bring is actually just what the giants' legends say Nika will do to the world government, tear it down and maybe blow up red line with the ancient weapons.
That would mean he could either be an ally of Luffy or an enemy. I feel he'll be more like Crocodile in his personality and just have his own motives and shift around
Are those chains the same metal as the collar Nami had to release Chopper from recently? And does it tie back to Amber Lead or whatever Law was Poisoned by as a child?
The Ol Fathers Flame and the Mother Flame it possibly inspired is something I've been thinking about with Vegapunk having spent time reading the O'Hara books o. Elbaph, but with that metal holding Chopper down is it possible Vegapunk also invented Sea Prism tech off of the metal in Elbaph?
Would make sense to me if the Nika fruit was supposed to be for the giant king. Somehow it falls in the hands of the marines and then Shanks was tasked with retrieving it. In order for Loki to get it back, he’ll have to destroy Luffy.
Loki will be the Strawhats war master. Running the grand fleet.
I don't think Loki is the villain of Elbaph Arc.
In anime, except the main character, nobody talks about a villain that the villain is the most evil character.
If people are directly telling that he is villain, you know something is wrong.
The way Dorry Broggy and all the other giants are calling Loki that he is the worst thing ever happened to Elbaph, *it's kinda obvious that Loki is innocent and he is being set up by someone, who might be the real villain* .
I think Luffy will free Loki or try to free Loki then Luffy will immediately ask Loki to join the Strawhats.
Super impressive vid
My boy Dak always cooking!
Wouldn’t black beard’s dark dark fruit be the first “special” logia
Hang on there, I don’t think that we should say getting one shot by G2 Luffy using Haki is something to be disappointed about.
G2 is already pretty strong, and sure, It can’t hang with monsters such as Doffy and Kaido, but it’s still a considerable power boost.
I didn't see that he ate it, just says he sought after it, and to be fair if he did eat it, they probably have him in seastone chains, but I looks more like he lost it in the scuffle or didn't get to eat it after killing for it.
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Maybe Ennies Lobby had someone awaken the Sun Sun logia fruit, and that’s why it’s always day time. 😂
The elbaf arc one piece where Usopp saw a devil fruit and he ate it most awesome scene