Civil War Prison Food - Andersonville to Elmira
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I realize I didn’t describe the crust! The flavor was mild, like mashed potato, but the texture was wonderfully fluffy, especially around the rim of the pie. I think it’d be perfect for savory pies.
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You're welcome Max. We love you dearly and your content too. Keep doing what you are doing. We're onboard.
Same
Makes me wonder how a shepherd's pie with potato crust would turn out...
a meat pie with potato crust sounds delicious
My great x3 grandpa survived Andersonville. I can’t imagine this was the kind of stuff he ate.🥺
whenever I hear "hardtack", even in other channels my brain automatically plays your "clack clack" clip in my head 😹 I think I got "Pavlov'ed" 😹😻
😂
I kinda wanna make a Newton’s cradle with hard tack
Happens all the time watching Townsends!
I'll randomly check for a gif or meme whenever I hear "hard tack" and still haven't found one. I feel like there needs to be one. 😂
I watch a lot of cooking on TH-cam, Even when other people say hardtack they are using that clip of Max.
I think the reason you rocketed up to 2.5 million subs is not because there are so many historical food lovers but more so that there are so many food lovers and history lovers out there and you successfully combined the two. You speak of both in equal parts and explain how one affected the other. It's a brilliant idea executed perfectly.
They come for many reasons, but they stay for the hard tack bit. (*klack-klack* - never disappoints)
Yes - and because Max is cute and never talks down to his viewers.
A real Prince Charming.
Yes to the history and the food as separate reasons to come. But so many more things to stay for. Max’s great personality and sense of humour and awesome ability to pronounce so many different languages with what sounds like a fair amount of accuracy and certainly a good attempt. His clear love of different cultures so the show isn’t just US or European food history. Then there’s technical stuff like good sound and visual quality and sub-titling. Max is a great presenter you can tell he has performance experience. I’m sure there’s many other aspects I haven’t happened to notice although my personal favourite is that Max is a great researcher. He does his best to ensure things are factually correct and goes to the primary sources for the historical information. That alone is time consuming. All that with the actual recipe development wnd I don’t know how this channel manages to produce so much content. (And books!) Oh and he also seems like such a nice guy so who wouldn’t want to subscribe and get to hang with him.
Ooooo! Two Pokémon creatures!
I introduced my mom to this channel at the start of the year after she started getting too sick to do a lot and she loved the combination of cooking and history this channel provides. We'd talk about the new episodes and I'd actually follow your recipes and cook foods for the show that she was interested in trying. (She loved the tang pie). She passed away a couple of weeks ago and I just wanted to thank Max for some of the last good memories I was able to make with my mom.
What a beautiful memory you have with your mother. So very sorry for the loss of her.
Sorry for your loss.
-random internet stranger
Having lost my mother not long before I discovered this channel, my condolences. We’re all here for you
My condolences and sorry for your loss
this hits too close to home my mom and i watch max miller together, she is well but i will do better to make sure she is healthy , im so sorry for your loss, its incredible you shared this with the community, may she rest in peace
2:25 Regarding the "papers pepper": In Bremen, Germany, a banquet of the Seafarers' Guild is held (almost) annually since 1545 (this year for the 480th time). This event is very traditional and highly regulated, e.g. the menu is strictly defined and has remained unchanged for centuries. In any case, the table setting at this banquet traditionally includes (among other things) little paper cones with pepper, so I would assume that it was customary to package it like this in the past.
That sounds really cool , do you know where I could learn more about it?
@@RosieMe5 Of course. It is called "Schaffermahlzeit" and has it's own website, explaining a lot about the event.
How cool! I live in Bremen, and even have a friend that has attended the Schaffermahlzeit…but I didn’t know about the pepper!!
I had an ancestor in Andersonville. He was part of a prisoner exchange, and just went home instead of back into the army. Can't say I blame him.
Probably best
I had one too and when he was rescued at the end of the war, he was getting washed in a stream and they thought his skin was peeling off. Turned out it was his shirt he thought he had lost...
The horrors those men endured 😢. It's a miracle that any of them survived.
That must have been concerning for a minute, followed by laughter.@@betsyeverson859
Ditto... but from the other side.
One side of the family was a POW in Illinois, the other somewhere in New England (I forget where). We have the diary of the one who was held in Illinois, and he recalled that summer wasn't too bad because they supplemented their diet with an abundance of lizards... he was a POW and paroled not one but twice, and fought on till the end rather than go home.
As soon as he read “crackers” in the recipe, I KNEW there’d be a hard tack reference…ohhh the excitement “clack clack”
Congrats on your success Max!
And Max knew it too. He was almost resigned to it today. "Oh man, the viewers KNOW it's coming up, may as well make this one obvious this time."
@@fazdoll The torches are pitchforks are going to come right out if he misses an obvious hardtack skit. And it's all of his own doing....
I'm selling the torches and pitchforks for the low low price of 40$ @@andersjjensen
At this point my spouse and I take bets on when the clip appears.
Hardtack story here. So I'm a saxophone player in a local street band and a few months ago we were playing at a large parade for the 250th anniversary of the founding of a neighboring town. Think people dressed as pioneers, tours of log cabins, etc. Minding my own business I hear someone mention hardtack and half a second later the echoing response was "tap tap." I was tickled to death that in the middle of nowhere there were others who know the call-and-response of "hardtack! tap tap!" It's almost as good as "Marco! Polo!"
😂
Like any typical girl, I was a huge Civil War buff starting at age 11. My grandparents had a coffee table book about Andersonville. The images of emaciated prisoners and hangings are burned into my mind.
A common joke during the Civil War era:
Soldier Billy- yesterday, I bit into a piece of hardtack, and I bit into something soft.
Soldier Johnny- was it a worm?
Soldier Billy- no, it was a nail.
Obligatory "Clack clack!"
Believe it or not there's a company in N.Y. that still makes hardtack and has been since the Civil War. Most of their customers today are reenactors though.
If you’ve ever watched Steve1989, the MRE guy, you’d know that hard tack (clack clack) was used by the military through at least WWI, and crackers similar through at least WWII. But it’s not surprising that the company can make a business out of supplying reenactors.
My German-immigrant ancestor, William, was one of the first to be sent to Andersonville, helping dig those wells inside the prison. He survived with a head wound from the battle where he was captured, and a ball of shot was left in the side of his head.
He lived to be 74 with that would that never fully healed, and was always painful. When asked, he was known to stare into the distance saying "nobody would believe the things I've seen..."
Very cool story. Glad you are able to pass on this history.
Yikes.
My maternal Great -Great Grandfather: Evans, Yancey, Private: Born in Bertie County where he resided
prior to enlisting at Plymouth, NC, on December 1, 1863, at the age
of 19. Present or accounted for until captured at Plymouth, April
17-20, 1864. Confined at Andersonville, Georgia, and Florence,
South Carolina. Paroled at Charleston, South Carolina, on December
10, 1864, and transferred to hospital at Annapolis, Maryland, where
he was admitted on December 15, 1864. Furloughed on December 19,
1864. Returned from furlough on February 8, 1865. Present or
accounted for until mustered out on July 15, 1865.
@@jamesbaggett7223 God rest his soul 🙏
2.5 Million because we LIKE the food history, but we LOVE how you present the information, Max!
You are too kind 🙂
This right here, I find it similar to things like Crash Course. The way it is presented makes it something I didn't know I was looking for. A perfect balance of old recipes and the history behind them, all with the wonderful humor of *clack clack* hardtack, what's not to love.
Exactly. Came here for history, staying because of history with Max.
I approve this message 😂
@@TastingHistory kind, but accurate. your presentation style is a big part of the appeal.
When my cat was younger, she used to bring me mice. I always thanked her, because I realized, in a post apocalyptic situation, I’d probably be damn glad to get that mouse! She was just trying to take care of me. ❤️
She thought of you as her mother and was showing you she could hunt
My late cat Joe used to do that too.
That is a great cat! Mousing cats are the best!
When I was little, we had an outdoors cat. He would bring us birds. Kept the mice to himself, with nothing but the guts left when he was done with them. Have a cat now too, but he's strictly an indoors boy.
Mmm…mouse soup!
I think it's a testament to the quality of Tasting History that the channel just keeps growing since it first blew up in 2020, when we were all in lockdown and cooking videos were getting big view counts all over TH-cam. Tasting History, however, has increased in subscribers and quality since that initial success (those early video remain wonderful, by the way), as Max has created consistently excellent, well-researched, and entertaining videos week after week, chasing his own passions and interests instead of trends. Flat-out one of the best channels on TH-cam in any category and the video I look forward to the most every week. The Tasting History Cookbook was a no-brainer buy for me.
YES!!!!!!!!!! Max to the max!!!!!!! Maximum Max!!!!!!! Love you, love your content!!!!!!!!!💖💖🥰🥰
The 'hardtack' cut will never get old.
Nope. Never!
Much like the tack itself 😂
69 likes now :)
As usual.
Literally was gonna write the same. It's the way it pops in and the facial expression cracks me up EVERYTIME! 😂🤣
I am an Elmira native. Over 1000 Confederate prisoners either starved to death or froze to death just 4 blocks from where my house is. The prison camp was built on indigenous Native land. Thanks to General Sullivan and the Iroquois Natives, My Native ancestors here were massacred. My great Grandmother handed down some simple recipes. The one that is most remembered is a form of Pemmican made from whatever meat, bear fat, juniper berries or elderberries. It was all pounded together and formed into discs, then sun dried. It stunk but was actually tasty and full of energy.
Thank you for sharing your story. I'm so sorry to hear about your native ancestors. I'm glad you have memories of their culture. Have you shared your valuable accounts of your heritage with the historical society? I live near Corning, and attended Elmira College for a while. My ancestors arrived in the Binghamton area in 1848 and worked for the railroad.
Vinegar doesn’t actually help scurvy at all. They just thought it would at the time because they thought acids helped. But vinegar doesn’t contain any vitamin C (ascorbic acid).
Congratulations on 2.5 million!
Thank you 😊
Indeed congrats on that great milestone 🎉
6:50 "What's that? Oh, these? These are just my Nice Buns. Do you want to feel my Nice Buns or just have a taste?" sounds like the kind of thing that gets you kicked out of the baking club
😂🤣😂🖖💕
He made another buns comment in a previous video. Maybe an inside joke.
I took a screenshot of that to send to my husband because he's always telling me "nice buns" 😂
"Finley, we discussed this last week... please put down your rolling pin. You're no longer welcomed in this club."
Well, heavens, what kind of baking club did you belong to? My friends and I used to try to outdo one another at creating erotic breadsticks, sweet rolls, and buns.
When you go through US Army OCS, part of the training is a trip to Andersonville. I went just a couple years ago. The big point of the trip is to reinforce that if you become a POW, you band together to support your fellow soldiers as you only have each other at that point. There was a group of Union POWs who formed a gang to prey on other prisoners. It was so bad that with approval from the Confederate commandant, a counter group of Union POWs were formed to deal with the issue in-house. The offending POWs were tried and executed by Union POWs, their bodies buried separate from the rest of the men when the Andersonville National Cemetery was established. Another point driven home on this trip was that you may think that you are safe in a support MOS, but one of the prisoners who died at Andersonville was a sailor in the US Navy. He did finance.
Two things you missed when discussing the water situation:
1) Those illustrations give the creek far too much credit. Perhaps it was fuller in the 1860s but today it's certainly not much to look at.
2) The water situation would be alleviated somewhat when a lightning strike caused a new spring to form. This would become known as Providence Spring, which still flows to this day.
Parents if your children ever go there there, then make it black & white, clear as crystal: The National POW Museum, and Andersonville National Cemetery is not the place for selfies, tikie-tokies, or other frivolous cell phone bullshit.
The person I know who was nearly starved to death when P.W. of the Germans never got into details of how things got near the end, when he was down to about 40kg. He was with English and Yank prisoners, I got the impression that the breakdown of discipline among the Yanks was starting to get dangerous, the Tommies had been there longer and were kept in line by their Sergeant-Major, e.g. they were not allowed to complain about things about which they could do nothing.
Hardtack clack clack will NEVER get old. It gives me such serotonin.
So the clack is healthier than the hardtack.
This episode had everything. Complaints about cooking, reading through receipts, *HORRIBLE DEPRESSING WAR STORIES* and a nice little pie at the end. How lovely!
And don't forget the hard tack!
@@Nanook128*clack clack*
Don't forget that the stream running through Andersonville was being used by a confederate camp not far upstream. There was no "clean" water.
Just like green commies are whining about they themselfs f'ing up entire pripyet marshes and the waters where their old subs rest😂
Ayuwoki
My great-great-great-grandfather was taken from the 12th New York Cavalry and sent to Andersonville. This probably doesn't surprise anyone, but he didn't see the end of the war.
What _might_ surprise people is that I don't actually blame Henry Wirz. He was, from what I've read, actually pretty frantic about trying to get more rations. They hanged the wrong person for that.
I remember, years ago, back during COVID, I asked you in the comments about medieval german baking recipes, and you actually responded. It really did make my day.
You've come a long way, Max, and you have a lot to be proud of. I was never much one for food history, but I always did love history - and what better way to resurrect a slice of the past than through that inescapable human necessity, food? I've cooked a bunch of the recipes you've featured since then, and enjoyed all of them. Parthian Chicken is a favorite of mine. And how I *wish* modern european cuisine resembled its medieval predecessor. 🤤
My 3rd great grandfather survived Andersonville prison. He was in ill health for the rest of his life. Later on several of his family members died from TB. My great grandfather was one of the few that survived. ❤
I really appreciate the addition of pertinent Pokemon stuffies in each video. Applin for the pie and Rattata for the scrounging of rats
The best thing to note is that it is a knockoff applin, since this is a Mock apple pie.
@@DefectiveFish that's genius
Yeah Ratatta was the darkest and most applicable choice LOL
me cheering at the hard tack clapping clip like i’m watching a sport
I started watching back in 2021 because I was looking for a food history channel that showed information about medieval recipes in particular. I’m a member of the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) and the timeframe of focus is pre-17th century. I was thrilled to find your channel! I stayed because your storytelling skills and personality are fantastic! In addition to your medieval recipes I’ve learned a tremendous amount from all time periods. I binged all your videos all the way to the beginning shortly after I started watching your channel. Tuesday has become one of my favorite days of the week ever since. My family knows exactly who I’m referring to when I say anything about “Max” or “Jose” too. Thank you so much for sticking with it in the beginning. Also, congratulations on reaching 2.5M!! And “nice buns” he he he 😂😂😂
P.S. Every time I hear hard tack mentioned in another historic video, I immediately envision your video clip! I love it!
I made mock apple pie in my 8th grade science class years ago! I do not remember the full reaction, but I believe the starches in the crackers are denatured by the cream of tartar and turn into simpler sugars and aromatic compounds that, thanks to a combo of pure luck and a little nutmeg, tastes REMARKABLY like apple pie filling
The history is fun. But your presentation, humor, and personality is what has kept me coming back over the last few years (and many others I believe).
Congratulations on 2.5M 🎉🎉
You certainly deserve it.
Whole branches of my family fought in the Civil War for the union, and a good portion of my family settled in and around Sandusky, Ohio where I was born briefly before we relocated to Cleveland. I grew up boating and taking the ferry to Put-In-Bay (another awesome historical location from the War of 1812) but was never aware of Johnson's Island or the Confederate cemetery just around the corner! I'm moving back to Ohio after completing my military service, and I'm VERY excited to go and see these locations! This show always has something new for me to absorb, much love Max!
As a graduate of US Navy SERE School - it hits home - a week of very short rations (mostly what we could forage/catch in the mountain-desert terrain) while running on the Survival/Evasion portion, and not much more during the 3 days in Prison Camp (Resistance/Escape)... every student lost 10-30 pounds during the week and was near hallucinations due to the malnutrition.
I can't imagine it as a prisoner of a year or more.
Ty for your service!
Sailor, delete this comment. The contents of SERE are classified SECRET. Be careful what you say on the internet and just enjoy these wonderful cooking videos.
Come for the history, stay for the hard tack references and Max's charming personality.
That hardtack clip really is the gift that keeps on giving. XD Also of note: vinegar does nothing for scurvy. In the 19th century they thought anything acidic would prevent scurvy, but that's not the case. You have to have vitamin C, and vinegar has none. White vinegar or apple cider vinegar, doesn't matter, won't help prevent or treat scurvy.
Pine needles, however, have a ton of vitamin C and is how the Native Americans treated it.
thank you! i was searching for this comment. might be smart to have a little disclaimer in cases such as this.. no point in bringing back historic misinformation ^^
@@michaelanderson2166Really?
I figured if you made the needles into a tea of sorts, the boiling would destroy the vitamin C, which is what happens when you try to cook or preserve many other sources of vitamin C.
So now I'm wondering how they consumed it, just as is?
@@camerapasteurize7215 If you just pour boiling water over something, and especially if you cover it while it steeps, most if not all of the vitamin C is retained. Compare rose hip tea. But if you boil it for a while, yes you will destroy it.
I wondered about the vinegar, thanks for clearing that up!
My great grandfather was in Andersonville and according to family lore after getting out he walked from Georgia to New York and everyone thought he had expired because no one had heard from him and when he arrived on the doorstep, he had lost enough of his weight that no one recognized him. It took months for him to recuperate from his ordeal. Walking all the way home was preferable than continuing to fight in the war after being stuck in a Confederate prison for about a whole year. Sounded like he never fully got over what he saw in there.
It's not just the food history, it's the way you present it makes it easy to enjoy even if it isn't something they are interested in. This means it's something my husband and I can watch together.
What I'm trying to say is thank you for making the history of food preparation more palatable for the common man (or husband in my case)
Watching this video while drinking sparkling water and cooking up a late night fried rice supper dish for myself was…sobering. Definitely made me feel more grateful of what I have
Yep...
We watched a movie in school about the Andersonville Trial. The guy who was the captain/admiral (?) on the Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea tv series was in it. I remember feeling sick afterwards from hearing about the conditions and hearing "I was following orders" just added to that feeling. This was in the 6th grade or so.
When i went home and told my folks they started telling me about the WW II concentration camps in Germany, etc. It's horrible to think of how we treat each other and never learn to do better
I think I know which movie you mean. It's not very accurate. For one it doesn't depict the part where he multiple times tried to get the Union to come get the prisoners because they couldn't supply food for them. It also omits the parts where Confederate troops donated their own food stores to the troops earlier in the war.
People learn it’s just the ones that have the funds to stop it are the ones who profit the most from it.
Richard Basehart the actor, is who your thinking of. Wonderful voice for documentaries.
I think part of the reason there are so many subscribers is because there's a huge appetite for history shows that actually discuss history, unlike The History Channel with their newest reality show or "its aliens / Angels / ghosts" show.
You forgot one thing about Andersonville: Save for a lucky few, the Guards were starving almost as much as the prisoners.
My great-great grandfather C.S. Aldrich was an Union office that was captured in 1863 and taken to Andersonville. Since he was an officer, he was treated somewhat better and wasn't interred in the main POW camp itself but rather in an encampment that was just outside. With a few fellow officers, he escaped north, receiving food--probably corn fritters and provisions from black slaves along the way north and eventually crossed into the northern territory. Our family still has his old medals and pistol, but sadly a collector down south somewhere has his sword. C.S. Aldrich eventually made his way west to settle in southern Colorado while it was still a territory rather than a state. Our family loves history and that is why I appreciate your videos and have even bought your cook book!
Was he kin to the Foster family? My wife's family was related to the Aldrich family, out of RI. We've got an officer's sword in the family. Very ornate with an ivory hilt. My granddaughter has it now. There is a long family history to it, but you might be related.
Congrats!! I used to send care packages to my nephew in Iraq. They included everything from chewy cookies, pudding cups, meat snacks and the occasional cichorone reg and spicy as well as hunting and fishing magazines. I would walk into the store and think " what won't melt in the desert?"
I had an amazingly hard time shopping after he was killed in action.
That recipe actually sounds pretty good.
My great grandfather on my dad's side died of dysentery shortly after serving in the civil war.
Sorry to hear. Too many good people died for that.
Sorry for your loss. As a veteran of Iraq, I know how much those care packages meant to him. Thank you for ur support.
So many good people have died on both sides of war...
One of the things my family made for my nephew in Desert Storm was Canned Cake.
Make any cake recipe, and instead of baking in a tin, pour the batter into wide-mouth Pint Mason jars, about 2/3 full.
Bake as usual (a bit longer than for cupcakes).
Once the cake tests done, remove from the oven, wipe the rims with vinegar, and put the lids on, with the rings finger-tight.
As the jar cools, the lid will seal.
These arrived in very good shape: I didn't keep track as to how many we sent, but it was many cases. Only 3 were broken.
Danny said that the cakes were "valuable " as trade goods!
He made it back, but sadly died at age 44. 😢 PTSD ....
Damn im sorry to hear about your nephew. I was in iraq as well, and your packages definitely made his (and all his squadmates) lives better.
I'm am very sorry for the losses suffered by those who served and after they served.
Thank you to those who sent friends and family those packages!
I can't begin to imagine how much their spirits must have been helped.
Max is our cool uncle who can cook, is really kind, and teaches us history. Tuesdays are cooking with uncle Max day. I need to cook this myself now.
Congratulations on getting to 2.5 million viewers! We love the history of the food, your honest comments about the taste of the recipe, your proper pronunciation of foreign words, your wit, your charm, your enthusiasm for the topic, your cats, & last, but not least, your signature "clack, clack" of hardback. Thank you, Max, for wonderful posts!
It finally happened. Max has topped the Townsends. Two of the most wholesome channels in existence.
Townsend for authenticity, Max for practical recreations
I was a Rev War reenactor for decades, and made my first Townsend’s purchase in 1986. It’s so bizarre that millions know Townsend’s primarily as a TH-cam channel.
My two favorite cooking channels
@lotharbeck71
I legitimately thought it was just a cooking channel, until I went to their website and was blown away by the variety of items they sell.
Look up lefse. It's made with potatoes, and it makes an eminently rollable dough -- my grandmother would roll it out paper thin.
I will do just that!
I was thinking of that, too. I spent my first year of college at Pacific Lutheran, where our school cheer was "Lutefisk, lutefisk, lefse, lefse, we're the mighty Lutherans, ya sure, you betcha!" They were served with dinner on Lucia Day, Dec 13. (NO to lutefisk 🤢.)
@tastinghistory When my grandma was making potato based dough, she always pointed out that we should wait for the potato to cool, otherwise it will take a LOT more flour to get anything that is not sticky and nasty and it will be super hard when it is baked. So cool you potatoes before adding flour then you can actually get to a rollable decent dough consistency with just a few spoons of flour.
reference Swedish leftsa...
Prison food was horrific, no argument there, but a big part of that was because there wasn't food to be had. Confederate soldiers weren't eating much better, and losses to starvation and dysentery were shocking, even among the troops. A lack of standardized rail width was part, but not all of the problem. Trains aren't cars. You can't mix and match wheel spacing. So when you have to offload goods from one train to another because the tracks don't match, distributing the little food there is becomes a lot harder. My great grand uncle to some remove was a Union soldier who went on Sherman's March and he kept a diary. He wrote that entire platoons would surrender in the hopes of being fed in Union prison camps. They were all slowly starving already.
Someone I knew who had been a P.W. of the Germans pointed-out that they were being fed the official civilian ration but 0.) they weren't and 1.) even if they were, some civilians had access to gardens in allotments, food from relatives in the country, and the Black Market.
The last year or so of the war, all the Red Cross parcels they were supposed to get from England vanished, likely stolen by the guards, who were mostly barely out of boyhood or old men or missing an arm.
"Who knew there were so many food history lovers?" There weren't. This channel brought out the food history lover in all of us!
Maybe the true food history lover were the fellow subscribers he made along the way.
It's hard to believe that I stumbled on this weird niche fusion-channel of food and history during the pandemic and it's now at 2.5million subscribers. big congrats Max :)
So did I!! The pandemic at least had one thing good coming from it😂
If you ever get the opportunity to visit Andersonville or Rock Island, you will have a new appreciation for the horrors described in the history books.
I live in Australia, and my mother and grandmother used to make mock apple pie using Choko, I think in the US you call it Chayote or Alligator Pear. Use alone, or if you have some apple to make a pie, adding Choko makes it go further, a similar texture, and it takes on the taste of whatever you cook it with.
Ingredients:
3 cups chayote fruit (cut ¼" thick, sliced)
2½ cups water
2 tablespoons apple cider vinegar
2 Tablespoons Brown Sugar
1 teaspoon apple pie spice (cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves)
1 pinch Salt
¼ teaspoon xanthan gum
Method.
peel, deseed and slice or dice the chayote into ¼" thick pieces.(peal under running water as the sap is sticky)
Place Chayote slices in 2 cups of water and bring to a boil. Allow slices to become fork tender and remove from water.
In a medium pot add cooked Choko. Add the additional ingredients and cook down until thickened.
Allow to cool slightly and use as you would canned Apple Pie Filling.
"Alligator Pear" isn't chayote - it's an older name for avocados.
@@procrastiknitter3733 Thank you for the correction. I read somewhere that another name for Choko was Chayote or Alligator Pear.Just goes to show you can't believe everything you read. I only know it by the name we call it in Australia, and that is Choko.
Choko was my first thought when i saw mock apple. We grew it when I was a kid, and I remember my Mum boiling it up and serving it with dinner - i hated it! If she had made this though - I think i would have had a better opinion of the ole choko.
Chicken piccata... approved by Rattata.
The history of the US Civil War is full of sadness: the origins of the war, the battles during. Thank you for highlighting this facet of the war, and continuing to do it through food.
Yay, civil war episodes! The primary writing from this period is always so beautiful.
It’s my favorite to read.
Max, as a subscriber since the beginning of the channel, I would like to point out that it isn't just the love of food history, but of your presentation. History is fascinating, but the presentation is as important, if not more, to the telling of the story as the facts themselves. Thank you for all of your effort!
Please Max, never stop with the hardtack bit. It is the absolute highlight by now of any video that includes it for me and my girlfriend :)
🤣🤣 "hardtack *clack clack*" lives rent free in my head now.
IKR 😂😂 I laugh way too hard every time
It’s always funny 😂 Every frkn time, the look on his face while he does the *clack clack* kills me dead😂
It lives rent free in ALL our heads! 🤣🤣🤣
Me, too...and I couldn't be happier!
04:22 clack clack. I love it and hope it will come up in many more videos.
My stepfather was a POW in WW2. His experience with hunger stayed with him for the rest of his life. He loved to cook.
The longer the hardtack jokes goes on the funnier it gets because Max has changed the filming location at least twice since then.
Back around 2011 or so, some motorcycle buddies and I visited Andersonville Prison in Georgia during a roadtrip up from home in Florida. I got separated from the guys when I hiked from the museum building down to the prison replica. The original "Magic Spring" that opened up miraculously to provide the prisoners fresh water, so appreciated as the creek water was foul, still flows! I had forgotten my water bottle and it was a hot summer day. Nobody else close, so I drank that water, and it tasted very good! It satisfied my thirst. 😊
Then I was able to hike back up to the building. 😎👍
Of the prison commander, Wiki says,
"The site was commanded by Captain Henry Wirz, who was tried and executed after the war for war crimes."
He got his just karma. 😮
Thanks for the video! My great great grandfather died of dysentery in a prisoner of war camp in the Civil War. To be fair, records indicate he and his son (my great great uncle) came down with dysentery before being captured. Both died. The father languishing as a prisoner of war, the son released to a local doctor's house where he eventually died. It's good to see a breakdown of the prisoner food experience.
I'm very sorry for the losses your family suffered.
It was a horrible war.
That crust would make for a fascinating reverse shepherds pie. Another fascinating episode!
Or a kind of alternate bread bowl! Ooh, imagine a good thick beef bourguignon in a potato crust. Yum.
You make history interesting. That’s why you have so many followers. You’re like that great teacher all the students love because you inspired them to learn about something they never knew they could love.
You have 2.5 million viewers bc you have great camera presence, great humor, easy on the eyes lol and you’re so knowledgeable of everything from Roman Empire to civil War and on. What you cook or bake is always interesting but it’s the history that you tell us in such wonderful and expressive stories that make us come back every Tuesday. Thank you for all of your filming editing and research Max 🇺🇸👍🏼❤️
Ooh! A Tasting History episode that I have some expertise in! I used to work at Fort Delaware which was a coastal defense fort built on a small island in the Delaware River that would be used as a prison during the Civil War because it was a well-defended site away from the front lines that received constant supplies from Philadelphia and few prisoners could swim making it the ideal location.
When it came to food, Fort Delaware was one of the much better prisons to be at for a captured Confederate because their food wasn't much worse in quality than the Union soldiers. Every day, a shipment of cattle would be brought to the fort by boat to be butchered and so fresh beef was eaten daily, usually cooked in stews with vegetables and vinegar along with plenty of fresh-baked bread. A daily ration would be given out to the prisoners who would elect cooks from amongst themselves to prepare it. The prisoner ration was notably smaller than the soldier ration and had far less variety (Union cooks would receive sugar, the prisoners had to use molasses) but it still came regularly and so starvation was rarely an issue. Some prisoners who refused to do any hard labor around the fort out of protest even reportedly gained weight!
Prisoners and soldiers alike could both buy ingredients from the Fort's sutler shop as well though since the sutler had more or less a monopoly, the prices were still exorbitant although interestingly, the Fort issued a special currency that was only redeemable at the sutler shop. If the prisoners received any money through mail, it was exchanged for this currency and prisoners could also do hard labor jobs around the fort in exchange for a small wage of it. It was forbidden to let the prisoners have actual money because they might try to bribe guards or use it if they ever escaped.
My third great grandfather was captured at Gettysburg and held at Fort Delaware until June 1865. He walked home to Mississippi.
As a Turk who loves American food, I hold the belief that there's no such thing as a bad apple pie.
I agree
Ever had it with a slice of cheese on top?
@@MrSheckstr Sadly, no :(
@@UkuleleVillainas people from Nova Scotia (and probably other places, but I heard it from my Nanny) “Apple pie without cheese, is like a kiss without a squeeze”
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I really like when Max adopts a serious voice tone when talking about harsh issues, he makes you feel the depths of the tragedy. I would love to listen to podcasts by him on history, even if they are not food-related. Such a good story teller!
Congratulations on 2.5 million subscribers!
I’m very glad you decided to keep doing this instead of returning to your previous job, and clearly, I’m not alone. 😊
Make this mock apple pie quick enough, and it's a mach apple pie!
Good enough, take a like.
I like this. I like this a lot.
Applause to you good pal. It took me a second to understand the joke.
Found some fine green powdered tea in mine and had to extract it. Guess it was a matcha-pull pie.
I'll leave now
This reminded me of Speed Racer.
The hard tack clip *still* makes me giggle every time. Every. Single. Time. Even when it happens more than once in the same video. 🤣
😂😂😂EVERY SINGLE TIIIME😂😂
My 8 year old son and I watch all of your videos. They have helped him to want to try new and exciting foods. Thank you! (His name is also Max) 🙂
Every single time i watch this guy, its to see him cook, and i watch him cook it and without even knowing, im 10 minutes into his history lesson and completely forgot about the food. Then he just whips it out and I'm like oh yeah that's why I'm here
We used to make “Dozer Pie” in the Army Corp of Engineers from various ingredients from our MREs …. We would eat our breakfast main by slitting open the packet on its narrow end…. Then the inside would be wiped out with the useless wad of TP that came with the MRE.
Smashed crackers, citrus fruit drink powder , freeze dried fruit compote, jelly and a little tabasco were combind and stuff into the bottom half the mains packet… using the spoon the end of the packet was rolled to tightly pack the contents then the whole mess was duck tapeds to the engine cowling of a bull dozer….. then everyone went to work…. Come lunch time everyone had a McDonalds hot apple pie
When people want something to eat, especially something sweet, they WILL find a way!
This is the real reason humans have survived this long . Our ability to scrounge food EVERY WHERE and make something out of it !!
I had to laugh at the requirement to duct tape the package to the engine cowling. I was reminded of my late uncle’s tall tales of truck driver cooking, which usually meant that a can of the desired food would be duct taped or clamped to the engine for an hour or so. God help you if the can split or exploded, because the mechanics would laugh you out of the shop!
lol
It’s worth noting that the lavish conditions for confederate officers in 1861 may have a had a lot to do with the belief of the time that it would be a quick war. As the war went on I’d suspect the lavish treatment ceased
Early on many wars have a gentleman's agreement between officers. During the North African campaign of WWII, the German and British Generals in charge of the southern area both agreed to a basic 9-5 war with minimal commando type raids. Field Marshal Erwin Rommel later even met with the British soldiers who were sent to infiltrate his command and assassinate him. He congratulated them on getting as far as they did, despite failing. During the Sicilian and Italian campaign it wasn't rare for many Italian prisoners to attempt "escape" by simply walking away from the areas they were being held. They didn't see it as an escape. They had done their duty, properly identified and registered as POWs, and were going home because the war was over for them.
As wars drag on the people fighting get angrier, more frustrated, and seek revenge more often. Things tend to quickly spiral downward from there.
@@christopherconard2831 ah...just like my marriage.
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Reminds me of how in early WW1, pilots of opposing armies just flew by one another with a few documented cases of them even waving hellos. Over time, they started to throw bricks and eventually shoot at each other once armed fighter planes were developed.
Two of my ancestors died at andersonville. Their sister would send them , and a lot of others , care packages throughout the war. Previously she had been arrested five times for helping slaves across the Ohio rive, but had such goodwill (and people owed her money) no one would convict her.
Proud to say I watch Tasting History with Max Miller.
You helped me through that first Covid winter.
Crazy how one unknown guy from the Disney crew could help so many people.
Love to you, Jose and the kitties.
They guy making jokes about flies and raisins, human ability to joke in roughest of circumstances is astounding!
Max, I've been having a shit 24 hours, but that "nice buns" in my ear, in that tone, made me crack up laughing. Thank you!
So sorry to hear that, but glad I could brighten the day a bit.
congratulations Max!! honestly, no-one deserves it more :') it may have been the food and history that brought us here, but it's you that made us stay~ from the clear respect you show for the history and cultures you're researching, to the diligence in the pursuit for authenticity and truth, to the way you present, your personality, your energy, and that lovely smile -- those are what we fell in love with.
so thank YOU Max for giving us a channel so worth supporting
My grandfather was a civil war historian and had folk art carved by prisoners at Andersonville. He had a brick carved into a book and a Chinese style ink well holder.
My great great grandad was a civil war prisoner twice, he was held in fort mchenry, md and was then paroled, rejoined the confederates in tennessee, and was wounded and captured a second time being sent to fort delaware (pea patch island). Delaware was appearently much nicer than most prisons, and the officers held there were allowed to leave the stockades to go fishing on the island. He spent the rest of the war there
2.5 million is well-deserved and hard-won. I've been following and enjoying your work since before you made the decision to end your employment with Disney; and while the history is interesting, it's your dedication to research and your presentation that will always keep me (and my family!) coming around. Thanks, Max!
I genuinely adore that you still use the hardtack cut. Please, never stop doing that!
We’re here for you, Max. The food and history is huge, but without you, this “show” wouldnt be what it is. You’re personality SHINES!
I had a relative captured at Cold Harbor, and he was shipped to Andersonville. he was there near the end of the war and he was released sent to DC and then had to walk from there. He was so emaciated when he got home, his family thought he was a wandering homeless person. they literally didn't recognize him.
I am a history nerd. I love learning about it.
I am also a guy who likes food. I can’t cook, but I like food.
This series has scratched both itches, and I can’t thank you enough l for it!
Saving up to get the book as a coffee table item.. Love this channel
@KC-gy5xw very much worth any cost. Lovely book and very well written and illustrated.
Max I remember “ Tune in next week for another exciting episode “ but I love you for even remembering that . I’m 72 , probably not your demographic, but I’ve been watching you since you dropped into the feed.
Max, I first discovered your channel in 2020 when I was sick with COVID during my college winter break and I’ve been subscribed ever since! Now I have my BA and currently in my second year of grad school! Thank you for being uniquely you and sharing food and history with us💖💖
Congratulations on 2.5 million man! 💯
Thank you 😊
one of my great great great uncles, James Duncan Hood, fought with the 22nd Michigan and died as a POW at Andersonville, thanks for the video giving a bit of a glimpse into what that was like Max
Those poor people. I always appreciate your personable, intelligent presentation of the intersection of food and history. I am reminded of the many good things I am fortunate to have in my life. Thanks for helping me work on my attitude of gratitude today.
Had a distant cousin. His last name was Collins, I think he was a first cousin to my great great great grandfather from the Taylor side of the family. Anyway he died in Andersonville. Pretty tough way to die. Congratulation on the new Kitchen. This is the third kitchen I have seen in the background since I started watching when you were still not yet married.
Shoutout from the Elmira area! The site of the Civil War prison camp hosts a museum with a newly reconstructed section of the stockade, complete with a guard-house. they also have one of the original barracks buildings. It is manned by dedicated volunteers often in uniform. Hellmira had a similar situation as Andersonville with the water. the only source being a stagnant stream/ pond that quickly became a cesspool. Not one of our more glorious contributions to history, but an important one none the less. Its more pleasant to talk about the summers Mark Twain spent in our city, writing some of his most famous books. Elmira is also the Northernmost site with graves of Confederate soldiers. they were so carefully and respectfully interred by John Jones (who's home is another great local museum), a former slave who settled in Elmira with its strong abolitionist community and worked for the cemetery, that the southern council sent to reclaim the bodies decided they could stay. Side note: the museum in neighboring town of Horseheads has a piece of the rope used to hang Wirz in their Civil War display. Now I wanna make some of that pie!
Hellmira is on my "kinda want to go there" list. One of my ancestors was a prisoner there. Luckily he survived and made it home. (In very poor physical condition, but he was alive.) I've been to Camp Sumter since it's relatively close by, but there's no personal connection to it.
I lived in Georgia in the mid '00s, and visited Andersonville. Very humbling place.
My great great grandfather was a Confederate prisoner at the Yankee prison camp at Rock Island Illinois. 16% of the prisoners died. It was compared to the same conditions as Andersonville. I’m lucky to be here.
I always watch these videos when I am flat broke and hungry.
Recently I read the word "hardtack" in print and said "clack clack" aloud
And then a side-eye from people nearby....
"Clack clack" is the secret password of all Max's fans. If you say it out loud and someone else says it back, you've found a fellow fan...
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Loyal servant to true cooking history
Congratulations on 2.5 million subscribers! That is an honor well deserved! Your content is so interesting and fun. You have a knack for bringing history alive and doing it through the medium of food has opened my eyes up to a new way of thinking about the world. I’ve really been inspired to not only cook more but also to be more mindful and appreciative of the world and time I live in now. I’m so happy for you and wish you continued growth and success and may you continue to get joy out of creating content. Take care!
I ABSOLUTELY love your channel Max and i look forward to new episodes. They are my comfort. I grew up loving history with my mom and the way you pair the history and food and everything....its simply amazing!! Shout out to your partner as well and all the folx who contribute to put this all together!!! It is SO appreciated!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Congratulations!!! All the hard work & hard tack really shows!!!