@@nobrakesukspeedway The early recordings I'm referring to is when they were called The Rain. Noel Joined the band last. Liam was singing in the band before Oasis happened.
@@mrkipling2201 for sure. Also isn’t it true Guigsy didn’t even play on DM, rather Noel played his parts. So again, why would Tony be talked like he was the crap one when he did play on the record.
These are actually better than I thought they'd be. You can hear The Smiths and Roses influences. But if Noel hadn't come along I think they would of just been a really good first division indie/shoegaze band. Instead of the premiere league legends that Oasis are.
brother Oasis es una de las mejores de bandas de rock de los 90's y facil facil objetivamente puede se una de las mejores 20 bandas de la Historia , Supersonic, Slide Away, Bring it on Down , Listen up , Headshrinker, Morning Glory , Wonderwall, dont look back in ager , whatever, Don't go away , Stop crying your hearth out , Gas Panic , esas son canciones que estan en la Historia del rock y cualquier banda mataria por tener 1 cancion asi de hecho muchas bandas tienen solo 1 o 2 canciones para la Historia Oasis faci facil tiene 10 , escucha las canciones que mencione y veras @@fzunigat
Can’t hear joy division. Maybe the bass? Got a smiths sort of structure to it if anything. Joy division had a gloomy sound to most of their music whereas this is more upbeat like many of Johnny marrs riffs. Ian Curtis and Liam gallagher have 2 totally different and unique styles. It’s a mix of the smiths and the stone roses if you ask me.
Great to hear he might be back for the reunion but if I remember rightly my original comment was a joke based on the fact the bass seemed to get quieter and quieter with each album and you can actually hear him on this. Also that Noel was rumoured to have replaced all of Guigsy's parts with his own recordings on the first 2 albums.
Liam & Bonehead ought to record fully realized versions of these early ideas now. Just to see where the tunes end up. If Guigs and Tony wanted to jump on board for a short time I think it’d be pretty bloody cool personally.
I've played drums 30 years and I think he's a fairly decent drummer. Definitely maybe wouldn't have sounded as good with any of the other drummers they've had
@@utchpunk9611 I love Whitey, but I agree. Sometimes the raw energy is better than the metronome accurate machine. I always loved Dave Mustaines leads on Peace Sells album for the same reason - it's so unpolished it's fantastic. Mcarroll had a raw energy about his style.
Always nice to hear this. ** Note though that they weren't called The Rain then. They changed the name to Oasis just before Noel joined, so with Noel on this demo, they were already Oasis.
In the netflix documentary it's Noel who says that the name Oasis was chosen because it was everywhere around Manchester, taxis, plumbing service, food service, everything, so Oasis turned out to be just after Noel joined.
@@brunohistoriayletras That don't really prove anything, Noel just tells you the name's origin story in the doc without telling he had already joined them at that point. They most probably were named Oasis for relatively short while before, but Noel joined pretty soon after. We're talking months or weeks here. Why do I think so? There's an interview from 1994 by Gary Crowley here in youtube with both Liam and Noel, where Noel clearly says "The band was called Oasis when I joined it".
I am reading 'Take Me There' now (about the beginning of Oasis) and this is amazing to hear and it also gives the Oasis-sound that we didn't know was made there
So at the beginning, their music was very stone Rose's inspired but then they later took more after the beatles. But imagine if they stuck by the stone Rose's inspiration instead, imagine how different they'd end up.
@@philthompson9403 They defiently do, noel even said they intended to be the modern day beatles, they also used sections such as the piano intro from imagine and used it in don't look back in anger, they also used the intro to dear prudence as their outro on a dig out your soul song and had ringos son drum on the album. They always tried to be beatles esk, doesn't mean they are identical or anything but it was a huge inspiration to all the bands work and they admit this
Georgie Is not okay They did that to mess with the media and were just pulling their strings. Oasis don’t “sound” like the Beatles despite their huge influence on Noels songwriting and Liam’s voice. Early oasis was very Slade inspired and Noel has said that himself. He never understood the Beatles comparisons
@@10jonchannel If someone lyricism and singing in a band are heavily beatles inspired as you say wouldn't the band naturally sound like the beatles? I really don't think their that similar but they undeniably took heavy inspiration and admired them and showed it in the music
Georgie Is not okay I could be inspired by Ed Sheeran‘s lyrics and try to sing like him, but if I plug in an Electric guitar and crank it to 10, with some bongos, I won’t sound like Ed Sheeran would I? Oasis were a rock band, the Beatles dabbed in multiple genres so you can’t say “they sound like the Beatles” when it’s just not true
this early stuff is fascinating to hear! there is obviously a huge stone roses influence for these tracks, but they're really not bad! also, tony's drumming is genuinely brilliant on these tracks, it's a shame that presumably noel limited him to playing simple snare/hi-hat based rhythms when this stuff is great
"Columbia" was written by Chris Griffiths (first verse and ad-libs), Noel (second verse) and Liam Gallagher (choruses) but Noel only credited just himself as the songwriter which is not true as who wrote it and was written by the whole band minus Noel. Chris didn't talk about who wrote the bridge though. th-cam.com/video/W9-JjqJMHRs/w-d-xo.html You can find out about where James Hargreaves Guitar talks about who wrote "Columbia".
These songs are not Amazing lmao 🤣 😂 you're just saying they are because it's oasis haha if anyone else put these songs out you literally wouldn't even listen to the full songs you'd switch off and say it's crap hahah
@@NellyGandhellawhat’s your issue? You go round commenting that the songs are shit because you feel the need to spread hate? Can you write better than these songs? I don’t think you could. So maybe spend more time in the real world and less time commenting stupid opinions
@@anthonymcneil1542 I'm pretty sure Liam and Bonehead just stopped expressing much of an interest in songwriting after Noel took over as lead songwriter shortly before Definitely Maybe. Noel actually liked the song Take Me, and wanted them record it again during the Morning Glory era, but Bonehead and Liam didn't want to. It's a bit of a shame, because I think if the rest of the band helped out in songwriting, it would have saved them a little during the Be Here Now era. That being said, I'm pretty sure there's an interview around 1997 or 1998 where Noel talks about letting everyone else write songs, and he says that if he lets Liam he would have to let Bonehead, so then he would have to let Guigsy, and then he would have to let Alan, too.
Liams voice somehow manages to sounds Amazing and Accidental at the same time. Really stands out It doesnt sound like he knows what he's actually going to do before he does it
The handwriting is wrong I think. With these songs and the early demos by Noel we can get a good idea about what they were preparing for us. Of course, with the influence of The Real People they got so fucking great from the beginning
In tony mc.carrolls book he states that the first recordings with Noel were at AbrahamMoss studios.So Noel isnt actually on this.He also said, rather tongue-in-cheek, that when Noel was hawking this tape, he was always at pains to point out that he wasnt actually on it! (Despite adding his name "rythm"in the margin.)
Why are the title telling "Then called Rain" since the tape shown already says it's "Oasis". The band was called Rain for about half a year 'til Liam joined and renamed it, and this is from the time Noel's also joined in To my knowledge there are no tapes available at all from "Rain -era" when they had different singer.
Really they should have both played lead in both played rhythm at different times. Could have had a more dynamic sound that evolved more than it ever did. Nobody ever seemed to push themselves as a player and everybody strictly stuck to their role. Completely opposite of what the Beatles did where you'll find each of them playing different instruments on different songs, etc. Made it more interesting. If I was bonehead I would have gotten bored just playing bar chords all the time. Towards the end of Oasis career there was not a ton of lead guitar anyway which kind of worsened it for me. Noel leads are pretty simple but they're distinct and effective. And based on take me, bonehead wasn't a slouch himself.
I had a whole album of oasis pre definitely maybe and lost it it was a live album ... I presumed It was not the only one to have it ? but I’ve never heard it since .... very sad story
She always comes up smiling And playing with her hair She sometimes says I'm lying She thinks that I don't care I know that if I see you I have to look and smile I know that if I hear you I think I'll run a mile She sometimes makes me blushing By saying silly things She don't know where she's going With all the cheapskate things You never really spoke to me You only stand still From now I think you've learned to see I never really cared If there's a day where you feel like this You just sit down and you reminisce You take some time to think it out Not knowing what it's all about Now if you know you're really sure You want this but I want more All the time you've been sitting here Living your life when it's full of fear Searching for a brand new start Is it in me or is it in my heart? Feeling embarrassed, don't know what you read And anything that you said her said Now you know what I have to do I have to get, get rid of you Now you know what I have to do I have to get, get rid of you I tell you that I want out You ask me what is it all about Is it really making sense Or won't you doubt we were never meant? Take me when I'm young and true Was it me or was it you? Take me when I'm not so strong Why has it taken you so long? Take me when you feel I've gone I always knew I could be someone Take me if you think you're right Do it now before it's light Take me if you think I'm sweet Though my life feels incomplete Take me when I wish to live For I still have this to give Take me when I'm young and true Was it me or was it you? Take me when I start to die Take me, take me don't ask why
Hell yeah. Has the post punk vibe. Even 60s indie band stuff. I was impressed with that number and the vocals, which there’s argument on this thread whether that’s Liam or not and I don’t think is. I have to listen with headphones proper but it doesn’t sound like his tone.
Could easily imagine seeing this at Number 47 on the Indie Chart on Ceefax. There must have been hundreds of tapes like this by wannabee bands. Makes you wonder how bands ever got signed in the first place?
Not really the gallaghers family are irish and were heavily involved in the Manchester irish/traditional music scene for years and noel was a roadie for the inspiral carpets and had toured before..so it had to be connections
Got to start. thats usually with covers then gaining confidence in who you're playing with then moving onto jamming and then creating somthing similar to what you really dig then you have a set, play it live, tweak it, write more...play more live gigs....then the who knows? (Unless your brother turns up with what he has and changes the direction) i still think this would have grown into something we would all have been mad for (sic)
I'm sure this has been asked many times (I scrolled down the comments, however, and couldn't find anything) but why is Noel listed on the cassette, despite not having joined the band at this point? Also, is there much info about them when they were called The Rain? Gig listings? Photos? Timelines? I'm fascinated in their development.
Sam K Liam and Noel said a lot of shit about a lot of artists, but I know for certain they admired Kurt Cobain and Nirvana. Kurt appears in one of the portraits on the wall behind Liam in the US music video version of Live Forever
@@bleep77 the portraits showcase dead musicians if I´m not mistaken. Pretty sure Noel liked Kurt except his pessimism and that he wrote Live forever as a response.
No I totally disagree. I have been in bands and can play guitar and piano and sing a bit. But I am not more qualified than someone who isn't musical to give an opinion. It's like saying you can't leave a review of a movie on Netflix if you have never made a film or studied acting or priduction. It's not correct at all....... Actually I'll not mince my words.... It's a totally stupid thing to say.
Reminisce sounds like our James’ band the Waltones who featured a young Mark Collins. A band that is never sighted as an influence on Noel and Bonehead.. a young Noel used to follow them about and come to see them at gigs asking about their guitars so I’m told.
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Tracklisting (for mobile users):
00:00 01 - Alice
03:00 02 - Reminice
06:16 03 - Take Me
Reminice is the 2nd song. Take me is third.
@@gstar4779 Good shout. Edited the tracklisting
@@oasisshare terrible!!
Dramatic! @@marksimons4108
*Reminisce
Liam has said in the early recordings before Oasis he just wanted to sing like his hero Ian Brown. This is total proof of that.
This Comment is what I'm looking for😂😂
TheWWEfanatic93 From Ian Brown to Copying John Lennon
In the early recordings before Oasis Liam wasn’t singing
@@nobrakesukspeedway The early recordings I'm referring to is when they were called The Rain. Noel Joined the band last. Liam was singing in the band before Oasis happened.
TheWWEfanatic93 Liam was never in Rain, he’s said so himself.
They definitely liked the Stone Roses
Liam sounded like Ian brown
yeah, I guess it's only natural to sounds a whole lot like your heroes when you're starting out.
Everyone in Manchester did
I think the guitar is more Johnny marr and Liam is like Broon
Think Noel sounds like marr in Alice for sure sounds like the opening to bigmouth
Class drumming by Tony McCarroll ✊
Definitely. The myth was that he was a crap drummer but the reality was that he stood up to Noel and Noel didn’t like it which is why he was sacked.
@@mrkipling2201 for sure. Also isn’t it true Guigsy didn’t even play on DM, rather Noel played his parts. So again, why would Tony be talked like he was the crap one when he did play on the record.
He should of stayed with them playing positive Ng new it he wanted to meet up with the bands number 1why
Totally Agree @@mrkipling2201
@@richardmoores I've heard that as well about the bass playing.
These are actually better than I thought they'd be. You can hear The Smiths and Roses influences. But if Noel hadn't come along I think they would of just been a really good first division indie/shoegaze band. Instead of the premiere league legends that Oasis are.
Estas totalmente cegado por tu fanatismo
brother Oasis es una de las mejores de bandas de rock de los 90's y facil facil objetivamente puede se una de las mejores 20 bandas de la Historia , Supersonic, Slide Away, Bring it on Down , Listen up , Headshrinker, Morning Glory , Wonderwall, dont look back in ager , whatever, Don't go away , Stop crying your hearth out , Gas Panic , esas son canciones que estan en la Historia del rock y cualquier banda mataria por tener 1 cancion asi de hecho muchas bandas tienen solo 1 o 2 canciones para la Historia Oasis faci facil tiene 10 , escucha las canciones que mencione y veras @@fzunigat
It's crap local band level. Let's be honest. If a local band sent you those songs, you wouldn't listen twice.
Ballbag
@@tobiaspaton2014 Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk
You can really hear the Manchester sound here. Very early Stone Roses with hints of Joy Division 😁
Joy diversion
Smiths a bit too ♡
Very The Smiths
Can’t hear joy division. Maybe the bass? Got a smiths sort of structure to it if anything. Joy division had a gloomy sound to most of their music whereas this is more upbeat like many of Johnny marrs riffs. Ian Curtis and Liam gallagher have 2 totally different and unique styles. It’s a mix of the smiths and the stone roses if you ask me.
@@leewainwright8136 the drumming is quite steve morris like
And this was the last time Guigsy was ever heard.
May he rip
Well it wasn’t ☺️
Great to hear he might be back for the reunion but if I remember rightly my original comment was a joke based on the fact the bass seemed to get quieter and quieter with each album and you can actually hear him on this. Also that Noel was rumoured to have replaced all of Guigsy's parts with his own recordings on the first 2 albums.
Lol. No it wasn’t.
@@gazh2166 "Ackchyually..."
Liam & Bonehead ought to record fully realized versions of these early ideas now. Just to see where the tunes end up. If Guigs and Tony wanted to jump on board for a short time I think it’d be pretty bloody cool personally.
I think they would rather release Blur covers. MOve on mate
Why? it sucks.
When Liam was only 18/19 years old!
Awwwwww 😍🔥 I love him!!
Awww baby Liam 🥺
@@ilivemylifeforthestarsthat3140 yesh 🥺💖💘
i like that you can hear the bass guitar . one thing you can barely hear in the years after
Ha, very true. Cheers Andy
i'd love liam to re release "alice" under his own name...
The drums is kinda good. Kinda shocking to think when Noel says Tony isn't good.
I've played drums 30 years and I think he's a fairly decent drummer. Definitely maybe wouldn't have sounded as good with any of the other drummers they've had
According to Wikipedia Tony is now drumming for The Real People.
Noel just wanted to "chuck a Beatles". They sacked their first drummer so Noel had to do the same.
@@tastemaker_87 Says a Tony McGuigan, not McCarroll, is drumming for them, not sure if there's a close relation between him and our Guigsy
@@ohnesorgen4642 HAHAHAHAH
This is amazing! Wish Liam would release these early tunes. Love this indie sound
First track is an absolute beauty 🤩🔥😭
You can sort of hear Liam becoming Liam over the three tracks.
Full of hope and hunger, not realising how crazy the next thirty years would be.
The gift that keeps on giving OASIS4EVA
Sounds much closer to the Inspiral Carpets than the Roses
MUCH CLOSER!
Exacally what I was thinking.
💯 especially track 2
McCarrol does a nice job on the drums here...
Mcarroll was their best drummer by far. May as well use a fucking drum machine than use the twat that replaced him
Utch Punk I agree with you but Alan white was a good drummer
Great style, not really great at rhythm and keepin' on time
@@utchpunk9611 I love Whitey, but I agree. Sometimes the raw energy is better than the metronome accurate machine. I always loved Dave Mustaines leads on Peace Sells album for the same reason - it's so unpolished it's fantastic. Mcarroll had a raw energy about his style.
@@auggiebendoggy he was moved by passion
Liam sounds nothing like Liam on Alice
He sounds like Ian Brown
At this point Ian brown is who he wanted to be. Later down the line he found his voice through inspiration from Lennon/lydon
Felipe M I think he sounds like a mix between Tim Burgess and Clint Boon
That’s because it’s not Liam,it’s Chris Hutton in vocals... Liam joined after!
@@1977chopper That's Liam. You can hear it's his vocals with a different accent.
Take me is a great tune.... There's a hint of smells like teen spirit in the drums and bass.
lol
That is a very common drum beat, especially in Manchester at the time.
I thought so too Sean
I thought stone roses drumming
Always nice to hear this. ** Note though that they weren't called The Rain then. They changed the name to Oasis just before Noel joined, so with Noel on this demo, they were already Oasis.
With Liam singing they were already Oasis
In the netflix documentary it's Noel who says that the name Oasis was chosen because it was everywhere around Manchester, taxis, plumbing service, food service, everything, so Oasis turned out to be just after Noel joined.
@@brunohistoriayletras That don't really prove anything, Noel just tells you the name's origin story in the doc without telling he had already joined them at that point.
They most probably were named Oasis for relatively short while before, but Noel joined pretty soon after. We're talking months or weeks here.
Why do I think so?
There's an interview from 1994 by Gary Crowley here in youtube with both Liam and Noel, where Noel clearly says "The band was called Oasis when I joined it".
Noel doesn't play on this tape. It was made before he joined.
Then why does it say "rhytm: Noel Gallagher on the video? @@AkyovNorthWest
It should be criminal that take me hasn’t been released
I am reading 'Take Me There' now (about the beginning of Oasis) and this is amazing to hear and it also gives the Oasis-sound that we didn't know was made there
So at the beginning, their music was very stone Rose's inspired but then they later took more after the beatles. But imagine if they stuck by the stone Rose's inspiration instead, imagine how different they'd end up.
They have never sounded like the Beatles???
@@philthompson9403 They defiently do, noel even said they intended to be the modern day beatles, they also used sections such as the piano intro from imagine and used it in don't look back in anger, they also used the intro to dear prudence as their outro on a dig out your soul song and had ringos son drum on the album. They always tried to be beatles esk, doesn't mean they are identical or anything but it was a huge inspiration to all the bands work and they admit this
Georgie Is not okay They did that to mess with the media and were just pulling their strings. Oasis don’t “sound” like the Beatles despite their huge influence on Noels songwriting and Liam’s voice. Early oasis was very Slade inspired and Noel has said that himself. He never understood the Beatles comparisons
@@10jonchannel If someone lyricism and singing in a band are heavily beatles inspired as you say wouldn't the band naturally sound like the beatles? I really don't think their that similar but they undeniably took heavy inspiration and admired them and showed it in the music
Georgie Is not okay I could be inspired by Ed Sheeran‘s lyrics and try to sing like him, but if I plug in an Electric guitar and crank it to 10, with some bongos, I won’t sound like Ed Sheeran would I? Oasis were a rock band, the Beatles dabbed in multiple genres so you can’t say “they sound like the Beatles” when it’s just not true
This is so cool. The last song has a very strong MBV influence to it. Gonna listen again on my ride home from work.
You can see the influence that the Smiths and Stone Roses had on the lads
If Morrissey had never read a book in his life and was a disgusting thickheaded lout!!
Explanation the songs were written by Liam and Bonehead BEFORE Noel joined Oasis, after he joined Noel played RHYTHM guitar and Bonehead plays Lead.
Thanxxx oasishare for share " this great rare ****** music!!!! Live forever
i always rated McCarroll's drumming and he sounds great here
take me is a tunnnnne!!! viva oasis
Noel on rhythm and bonehead on lead - interesting!
? it says 'pre-noel' so it probably was before noel joined the band
@@jonasrmb01 u can clearly see there, RHYTHM: NOEL GALLAGHER
@@jonasrmb01 before noel started writing their songs I think
I guess Bonehead wanted to be lead but he sucked so Noel took over, lmao jk.
“I only played lead in oasis because bonehead was bald and that would’ve been ludicrous” 😂
Sounds like a mix of Roses, Inspirals and C86 era indie pop. Ilikeitalot.
this early stuff is fascinating to hear! there is obviously a huge stone roses influence for these tracks, but they're really not bad! also, tony's drumming is genuinely brilliant on these tracks, it's a shame that presumably noel limited him to playing simple snare/hi-hat based rhythms when this stuff is great
This sounds great
BIBLICAL
00:00 01 - Alice
03:00 02 - Take Me
06:16 03 - Remince
Wrong order?
Reminice great song
Reminice great song
Hazed
I’m not saying these song a aren’t good - they’re amazing. But it’s clear that Noels skill as a song writer is what took them to ‘supernova heights’
They’re shit
"Columbia" was written by Chris Griffiths (first verse and ad-libs), Noel (second verse) and Liam Gallagher (choruses) but Noel only credited just himself as the songwriter which is not true as who wrote it and was written by the whole band minus Noel. Chris didn't talk about who wrote the bridge though.
th-cam.com/video/W9-JjqJMHRs/w-d-xo.html
You can find out about where James Hargreaves Guitar talks about who wrote "Columbia".
These songs are not Amazing lmao 🤣 😂 you're just saying they are because it's oasis haha if anyone else put these songs out you literally wouldn't even listen to the full songs you'd switch off and say it's crap hahah
@@NellyGandhellawhat’s your issue? You go round commenting that the songs are shit because you feel the need to spread hate? Can you write better than these songs? I don’t think you could. So maybe spend more time in the real world and less time commenting stupid opinions
Are you fucking deaf ? They are dreadful !
This is gold
This is brilliant
Take Me should have been the first song on the tape. The intros for all three songs are wayyyy too long too. They'll never make it.
Look at the stone roses debut if you think long intros won't make it
IndiekidDrugPatrol second coming aswell, breaking into heaven legit has like a 9 min intro
@@scott3781 very true
I would rather listen to this than 90% of the crap we hear today
Who knew something Liam thought was rubbish can easily beat anything the modern charts have to offer, at least in my opinion
@@StanceSantos agree. shows how rubbish today's music has become.
Ivan Bravo u no heard or sam fender the DMAs and the snuts
@@Luke-mb8nc nah they suck too
@Chris Greene no. YOU grow up. 😎
See? Liam and the others are good songwriters and composers. This is amazing.
Too bad he couldn't write 'Reminisce' properly :D
I have wondered before why they didn't keep writing, Noel didn't let them? and what they would have produced if they had kept writing
It's good. But Noel can write anthems that just sticks with u
Andy, Paul and Tony xd
@@anthonymcneil1542 I'm pretty sure Liam and Bonehead just stopped expressing much of an interest in songwriting after Noel took over as lead songwriter shortly before Definitely Maybe. Noel actually liked the song Take Me, and wanted them record it again during the Morning Glory era, but Bonehead and Liam didn't want to. It's a bit of a shame, because I think if the rest of the band helped out in songwriting, it would have saved them a little during the Be Here Now era. That being said, I'm pretty sure there's an interview around 1997 or 1998 where Noel talks about letting everyone else write songs, and he says that if he lets Liam he would have to let Bonehead, so then he would have to let Guigsy, and then he would have to let Alan, too.
Liams voice somehow manages to sounds Amazing and Accidental at the same time. Really stands out
It doesnt sound like he knows what he's actually going to do before he does it
take me is an actually banger
No it's not lmao 🤣 you're only saying this because you're fishing for likes haha
@@NellyGandhellaI think it’s a great song tbh, dunno why you’re laughing abt it
@@NellyGandhellano take me is a banger
@@ryangraves1397Those "shoegaze" sounds are heaven to my ear, added with a chills like when i heard the intro of Supersonic for the first time!🔥🔥
@@NellyGandhellaIt IS a banger
This is extraordinary. I could have never expected they would be so good even before being the Oasis we know.
Reminice sounds like a The Stone Roses, i fucking love this song
The handwriting is wrong I think. With these songs and the early demos by Noel we can get a good idea about what they were preparing for us. Of course, with the influence of The Real People they got so fucking great from the beginning
Sound like the who with Ian brown singing
Liam, record these now!!! ♡ ♡
In tony mc.carrolls book he states that the first recordings with Noel were at AbrahamMoss studios.So Noel isnt actually on this.He also said, rather tongue-in-cheek, that when Noel was hawking this tape, he was always at pains to point out that he wasnt actually on it! (Despite adding his name "rythm"in the margin.)
rhythm
@@mattiemclean9882cheers, Geoff
Haha
Take Me... absolute BANGER!
The only drum riff Tony can play, every song ever has him doing it hahah
I have a feeling that the hand written part isn’t authentic haha
yeah not an english phone number
lol. That’s some shite us yanks wouldn’t know.
@@BF-es7gs ???
Why are the title telling "Then called Rain" since the tape shown already says it's "Oasis". The band was called Rain for about half a year 'til Liam joined and renamed it, and this is from the time Noel's also joined in
To my knowledge there are no tapes available at all from "Rain -era" when they had different singer.
Not "pre-Noel" either as the title claims now.
It's written in the bloody sleeve
"Lead: Paul Arthurs
Rhythm: Noel Gallagher"
Rhythm : Noel Gallagher
Lead: Paul Arthurs.
That's the way it was meant to be.
Carlos Soler tru 😳
Noel is a better musician than Bonehead. Noel haters are ridiculous
Really they should have both played lead in both played rhythm at different times. Could have had a more dynamic sound that evolved more than it ever did. Nobody ever seemed to push themselves as a player and everybody strictly stuck to their role. Completely opposite of what the Beatles did where you'll find each of them playing different instruments on different songs, etc. Made it more interesting. If I was bonehead I would have gotten bored just playing bar chords all the time.
Towards the end of Oasis career there was not a ton of lead guitar anyway which kind of worsened it for me. Noel leads are pretty simple but they're distinct and effective. And based on take me, bonehead wasn't a slouch himself.
they did very well to spell the other two titles correctly
can definitely hear the similarity of ian brown on vocal and johnny marr on guitar
Jonny Marr ?!
Weird how this just popped up...love the handwritten images 😍
I had a whole album of oasis pre definitely maybe and lost it it was a live album ... I presumed It was not the only one to have it ? but I’ve never heard it since .... very sad story
@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypsehow d’ya know?
Bonehead on lead and Noel on rhythm...must be just before the songwriting power shift
The title says this is pre Noel? But yeah he's listed there in the picture. Confusing.
She always comes up smiling
And playing with her hair
She sometimes says I'm lying
She thinks that I don't care
I know that if I see you
I have to look and smile
I know that if I hear you
I think I'll run a mile
She sometimes makes me blushing
By saying silly things
She don't know where she's going
With all the cheapskate things
You never really spoke to me
You only stand still
From now I think you've learned to see
I never really cared
If there's a day where you feel like this
You just sit down and you reminisce
You take some time to think it out
Not knowing what it's all about
Now if you know you're really sure
You want this but I want more
All the time you've been sitting here
Living your life when it's full of fear
Searching for a brand new start
Is it in me or is it in my heart?
Feeling embarrassed, don't know what you read
And anything that you said her said
Now you know what I have to do
I have to get, get rid of you
Now you know what I have to do
I have to get, get rid of you
I tell you that I want out
You ask me what is it all about
Is it really making sense
Or won't you doubt we were never meant?
Take me when I'm young and true
Was it me or was it you?
Take me when I'm not so strong
Why has it taken you so long?
Take me when you feel I've gone
I always knew I could be someone
Take me if you think you're right
Do it now before it's light
Take me if you think I'm sweet
Though my life feels incomplete
Take me when I wish to live
For I still have this to give
Take me when I'm young and true
Was it me or was it you?
Take me when I start to die
Take me, take me don't ask why
Reminice what a song!!🙌
Cant find it anywhere else though 😒
Take me,,,, tip top tune!
This part is absolutely amazing 5:25
Actually enjoyed these. Like the overall sound.
The rhythm guitar and drums are dead on time.
I quite enjoyed that.😁
Take me, don't ask why!
Not really “then called the rain” as it literally says Oasis, plus Liam changed it as soon as he joined
Excactly what I thought :D wtf
The Rain was pre Liam, singer was Chris Hutton!
Pure brilliance.
Liam on Alice really sounds Ian Brown
I kind of love this.
Alice guitar riff is really good.
Hell yeah. Has the post punk vibe. Even 60s indie band stuff. I was impressed with that number and the vocals, which there’s argument on this thread whether that’s Liam or not and I don’t think is. I have to listen with headphones proper but it doesn’t sound like his tone.
6:41 what's the story morning glory
This is actually good. Very nice vibe.
Sounds a lot better than I thought it would
Take me is great. I like it when oasis is heavier. I know thats not why they were famous but they are good at that sound.
Could easily imagine seeing this at Number 47 on the Indie Chart on Ceefax. There must have been hundreds of tapes like this by wannabee bands. Makes you wonder how bands ever got signed in the first place?
Getting spotted at a gig like they did at king tuts in glasgow, just need to impress
Not really the gallaghers family are irish and were heavily involved in the Manchester irish/traditional music scene for years and noel was a roadie for the inspiral carpets and had toured before..so it had to be connections
This has the Inspiral Carpets 1990 written all over it - MOO! Wonderful beginnings for a great great band 👊
Sounds very inspiral carpet-y.....
Better
i worked with Boneheads Sister who only said "He was very generous at Christmas " ....Bonehead was a plasterer by trade she told me
Ok 😆
Got to start. thats usually with covers then gaining confidence in who you're playing with then moving onto jamming and then creating somthing similar to what you really dig then you have a set, play it live, tweak it, write more...play more live gigs....then the who knows?
(Unless your brother turns up with what he has and changes the direction) i still think this would have grown into something we would all have been mad for (sic)
maaaaan alice is such a good song
Facts if they re did the song in some way and released it i think itd be great
Nice "shoegaze" sound: i actually like this a lot.
Alice rocks.
I'm sure this has been asked many times (I scrolled down the comments, however, and couldn't find anything) but why is Noel listed on the cassette, despite not having joined the band at this point? Also, is there much info about them when they were called The Rain? Gig listings? Photos? Timelines? I'm fascinated in their development.
I would recommend reading Tony McCarrol's book about Oasis "The Truth". He writes about the early years there
@@niniiskuratov Thank you, I'll check it out!
They spelled “rhythm” wrong as well, which makes me think it must be authentic.
Could be Dermo/Northside singing on this (its not i know). All sounds a bit like inspiral carpets/wedding present. Decent demo.
It's like a time capsule of that era
Yeah it feels inpiral carpety to me
The 442 code brings back mad memories
Mad to think this would end up in Johnny Marr’s hands only days before that famous gig in Glasgow
Reminice is clearly inspired by grunge, Nirvana in particular
Doubt it. There's an interview where they say they absolutely hated all those bands.
Sam K Liam and Noel said a lot of shit about a lot of artists, but I know for certain they admired Kurt Cobain and Nirvana. Kurt appears in one of the portraits on the wall behind Liam in the US music video version of Live Forever
@@bleep77 the portraits showcase dead musicians if I´m not mistaken. Pretty sure Noel liked Kurt except his pessimism and that he wrote Live forever as a response.
1:00 bigmouth strikes again riff
Hate when you get people who have never played an instrument or written a song giving crap opinions. If you can't do it yourself don't comment
No I totally disagree. I have been in bands and can play guitar and piano and sing a bit. But I am not more qualified than someone who isn't musical to give an opinion.
It's like saying you can't leave a review of a movie on Netflix if you have never made a film or studied acting or priduction. It's not correct at all....... Actually I'll not mince my words.... It's a totally stupid thing to say.
I've written about 50 songs and none of them sound as limp,illiterate and facile as these!!
James Hargreaves says noel played on this and he should know, he knows everything... 😊
James is kind of a dweeb.
jh, is a wannabe clown, DONE NOTHING OF NOTE IN HIS LIFE ????? JUST AN IDIOT, ME??? I SOLD 20 MILLION RECORDS WITH MY BAND,
Somebody must give LG this songs and ask him to remaster them and play those diamonds live!
Remaster???
You surely mean èither re record or get them mixed again.
These would not have been mastered, it was a demo.
WARNING : these songs are highly addictive
Rare... Very Rare.
Very reminiscent of the inspiral carpets
And this is why Johnny made the call.
The shouldve released an EP a year before definitely maybe!!! Too many songs held back!!
Reminisce sounds like our James’ band the Waltones who featured a young Mark Collins. A band that is never sighted as an influence on Noel and Bonehead.. a young Noel used to follow them about and come to see them at gigs asking about their guitars so I’m told.
I fucking love these!
c'est excellent
la voix de Liam est en OR, et les chansons sont excellentes ;