WHO'S THE BEST LORD OF THE RINGS COMMANDER IN cEDH? - GANDALF vs SAURON vs ARAGORN vs FRODO|SAM

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  • @lokumo13
    @lokumo13 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    That transition from Dylan there was 🔥

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Lol thank you

    • @Icecolten1
      @Icecolten1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Lol you beat me to it! I was gonna say I forgive you for being a villain since you have such sick editing skills.

    • @grain_death
      @grain_death ปีที่แล้ว +1

      literally just said the same thing

    • @anstapa6118
      @anstapa6118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Came here to say the same thing! Absolutely perfect!

    • @superskaldy
      @superskaldy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Came for the same thing, but a week late lmao
      My favorite channel!!

  • @Andrew-ii2lf
    @Andrew-ii2lf ปีที่แล้ว +123

    The dryad arbour so strong is immune to toxic deluge 😂

  • @SurgingChaos19
    @SurgingChaos19 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    This game is a great example of why Dryad Arbor should not be buried in a land pile and should always be represented as a creature. It should have died to the Toxic Deluge, and that's actually extremely relevant because it gave Christian the mana he needed to combo off.

    • @uriarte411
      @uriarte411 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yep, this is why I hate when people do that with mana rocks as well. Multiple times people miss it to "destroy all artifact" effects.

    • @snowconesyrup2698
      @snowconesyrup2698 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Didn't they make it an official rule that arbor has to be among creatures after this came up in an actual tourney?

    • @JohnSmith-hs9ez
      @JohnSmith-hs9ez ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@snowconesyrup2698yes

    • @ScorpioneOrzion
      @ScorpioneOrzion ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@snowconesyrup2698 they did

  • @moistnar
    @moistnar ปีที่แล้ว +77

    "There and Stax Again" is hilarious def stealing this for my Gandalf EDH deck

  • @yoricktop8649
    @yoricktop8649 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    At 5:00 Christian shouldnt have looted from the ring because frodo's tempt happens after attacks have been declared

  • @cococovrro
    @cococovrro ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Christian's dryad should have died by the toxic deluge

    • @cococovrro
      @cococovrro ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Without the dryad he wouldn't have been able to cast his commander and the finale of devastation for academy rector.

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Good catch!

    • @terribly_vexed
      @terribly_vexed ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cococovrro Always put your Dryad Arbors up with your creatures, folks!

  • @kb3256
    @kb3256 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Cats was written by Andrew Lloyd Webber. Great job on that obscure theater trivia.

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      NICE

    • @TrixerFerKids
      @TrixerFerKids ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@PlaytoWinMTG He also wrote the music for Phantom of the Opera.

  • @TheSheeplesChamp
    @TheSheeplesChamp ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Wooo I love seeing the Second Breakfast combo go off fresh out the gates! Also fitting that Aragorn and Gandalf helped keep Sauron occupied while Sam and Frodo snuck in under a Grand Abolisher to get the win, I love it haha

    • @lisan3627
      @lisan3627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Second Breakfast is a brilliant name for this combo haha

  • @jacobbono
    @jacobbono ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I know you guys talked about it in your set review, but the new hulk pile with Samwise seems crazy, the combo pieces are only 4mv total so you can grab an extra 2mv worth of creature depending on the scenario or just Grand Abolisher for safety. Seems pretty good.

  • @DeathEatsCurry
    @DeathEatsCurry ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nobody's ever a bad guy just for forgetting stuff. EDH boardstates get complicated, and in cEDH you're probably already trying to think ahead. Shit happens.

  • @anthonybuck4864
    @anthonybuck4864 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I LOOOOVE how that game played out and that fantastic win

  • @d.onovan9970
    @d.onovan9970 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think Sauron, the Dark Lord is the Sauron deck it’s in the colors you need and gives you really good value I think if there was a part 2 that one should be used instead. Great video I love the content keep up the work y’all are doing it’s fantastic!!

    • @conjections2506
      @conjections2506 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah I don't understand why this is the sauron they chose. Tivit is a great cedh commander and the dark lord is pretty much a grixis parallel. Has a tough ward, has a engine that just keeps going, and has the ability to have personal wheel of fortunes. I don't get why they chose the nearly unplayable one imo.

    • @fosterdawson7339
      @fosterdawson7339 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@conjections2506I’ve seen some debate between the 2 online. This Sauron has more inert combos with dockside loops, reanimation stuff, etc, but he’s also 8 mana. The other Sauron doesn’t have loops specifically, but is cheaper, harder to kill, and provides some card advantage. They both have their ways of being built but I think 6 vs 8 mana is just too relevant in this case

    • @conjections2506
      @conjections2506 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fosterdawson7339 100% agree. I do like them both, I should make that clear. In my mind though, I just cut straight to the 6 mana one. I'm building it in paper if that's any indication. I had a najeela shell I just basically converted to grixis.

    • @jonathonskogman8337
      @jonathonskogman8337 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I am going to try the dark lord in a reanimator build and have sauron lord of the rings in the 99 with displacer kitten.

    • @conjections2506
      @conjections2506 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonathonskogman8337 my initial thought was reanimator as well. I still may yet do that. But for the moment it's just breach thoracle with maximum control. But reanimator just seems free with him.

  • @Engrishhard
    @Engrishhard ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Sauron the Dark Lord seems like the better CEDH commander, testing it out now and it’s going well!

  • @TCG9777
    @TCG9777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just wanted to say that transition from the game, to his monitor, to his face was so fucking slick. Some Game Knights level editing over here

  • @kellyperry5009
    @kellyperry5009 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That transition was the highlight of the video ✨️🤘🙏 amazing work 👏

  • @natureboy95
    @natureboy95 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Joe Cherries got them and me those gay to win shirts, gonna make it into every CommandFest wardrobe rotation from now on!

  • @MatthewSmith-qd6du
    @MatthewSmith-qd6du ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first of, andrew lloyd webber did indeed write cats, and loved that transition to dylan talking about the game :)

  • @q2kfallen464
    @q2kfallen464 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That was a super flavorful game! Great showing as always guys!

  • @absolutezer0791
    @absolutezer0791 ปีที่แล้ว

    The transition was so good i literally rewatched it like 3 times

  • @austinwhitbeck3362
    @austinwhitbeck3362 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great episode y'all, thanks for making more great content :)

  • @CharlotteMimic
    @CharlotteMimic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for telling me this was the last chance for the Gay to Win shirt

  • @samwilsonhoff6514
    @samwilsonhoff6514 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see another one of this! Especially with the Frodo Sam deck back!

  • @Nullking_
    @Nullking_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was very excited to see Frodo/Sam as I saw them as a good hulk pile threat gets white when it came out and to see you guys thought the same thing before seeing the video. There was a misplay from what I understand with the second attack of Frodo triggering the ring ability that it does allow you to loot until the third attack of Frodo as it states when this creature attacks loot, since Frodos ability for the ring tempts you is upon attack you will only draw on the second attack from frodos ability not the rings. I saw Frodo and Sam as a bad tymna that seemed great.

  • @ingolf82
    @ingolf82 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like that Aragorn list, so I made a budget version of the deck and of course gave full credit to you for making it. the budget I set was every card under 50 € apart from Dockside, mana crypt and Ragavan because I own those already and you kinda need at least dockside for the deck to work. I'm surprised Deadeye Navigator isn't in the deck, that loops with Dockside too. Same with Birgi and Grinning Ignus, also a machine gun combo. I of course put those in the budget version.

  • @lua5673
    @lua5673 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bought couple of the Gay to Win tank tops for some friends. They loved them!

  • @lilwigese1
    @lilwigese1 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a beautiful game. The song coming in as the games gonna wrap up nice touch ❤

  • @mackenner-aspery2715
    @mackenner-aspery2715 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly my play to win itch has just been fixed by exclusively the intro and the name of the decks. Well done lads.

  • @BrewsAndBruised
    @BrewsAndBruised ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sauron, the White Hand slaps so hard. I don’t know if it’s up to par with cedh power levels, but he is way stronk for casual tables.

  • @gdcoleman93
    @gdcoleman93 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish people on Spelltable played this fast…. Can we get an episode of cheapest but best cEDH cards soon? Great content.

  • @snowconesyrup2698
    @snowconesyrup2698 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video guys!

  • @joskajiri
    @joskajiri ปีที่แล้ว

    veeeeeery good "begin" one, very good

  • @eric.ingram
    @eric.ingram ปีที่แล้ว

    Fire content lads. Absolute fire.

  • @matianlong7907
    @matianlong7907 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m willing to watch a dedicated LotR gameplay JUST because of you guys

  • @jaibell4835
    @jaibell4835 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    enjoyed the content as always but the dryad abor was so annoying being down with the lands and not dying to toxic deluge

  • @VeilofDeathMTG
    @VeilofDeathMTG ปีที่แล้ว

    Cam you did it, You sang the Fish Song and made me Happy :D

  • @daydaygordon1210
    @daydaygordon1210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would really like to see your guys take on a Sauron the Dark Lord Build and game

  • @oscarperezcame
    @oscarperezcame ปีที่แล้ว

    Chris got the flavor!! he came from behind, worked his way very silent and sneaky just like Sam and Frodo in the movies hahaha

  • @violentredfrog
    @violentredfrog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As soon as you see someone playing Dryad arbor, ask him to put it as a creature. Always. Without question. Even if it is not malicious it should never be represented as a land because it is simply misleading for everyone involved.

    • @snowconesyrup2698
      @snowconesyrup2698 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe by actual game rule it must be represented with creatures

  • @DaxVerus
    @DaxVerus ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you get the oversized ring helper card?
    Edit: that love change transition was also super clean for how chaotic it was. Love the little stuff you guys do on the channel that makes it all the more entertaining.

  • @kiwivogel
    @kiwivogel ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent "BEGIN". Very good, have an upvote.

  • @lord_more_dino
    @lord_more_dino ปีที่แล้ว

    Dylan redeems his cheat with that smooth in and out transition 🎉

  • @carettcake8752
    @carettcake8752 ปีที่แล้ว

    A fun game I like to play with myself for the intro and narrations is to watch the person who isn’t talking. Feels extra awkward lol

  • @Flip4Crypt
    @Flip4Crypt ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This game was awesome, great energy at the table
    I always love when you do crazy transitions like that Dylan, that was really cool
    I love the cheering for the flavor win at the end
    Thanks for always putting great Shit out for all of us!

  • @patricklozano1717
    @patricklozano1717 ปีที่แล้ว

    The movie flavor win made this game stand out. Loved it guys thank you

  • @eggsaviator1224
    @eggsaviator1224 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clean edit as hell

  • @Oneslicknick
    @Oneslicknick ปีที่แล้ว

    THERE WAS SOO MUCH FLAVOR! W team! Was literally just missing Sméagol and TOR 😂

  • @emarmy00
    @emarmy00 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought the precon (food and fellowship), deff making it more competitive!

  • @jamesbeaumont8979
    @jamesbeaumont8979 ปีที่แล้ว

    pride playmat is sick af!!

  • @taylorjohnson5148
    @taylorjohnson5148 ปีที่แล้ว

    That huge the ring card is hilarious

  • @nicholasbowdler9447
    @nicholasbowdler9447 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is my second time watching this and I did NOT realize how big Christian's copy of the ring was

  • @p111SC
    @p111SC ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who needs to marathon LOTR when you can watch this 😂

  • @chuchi741
    @chuchi741 ปีที่แล้ว

    "We have me on Sauron, Lord of the Rings"
    HE SAID IT, HE SAID THE LINE!

  • @officialCannisMajoris
    @officialCannisMajoris ปีที่แล้ว

    That was cool! A+

  • @NT_Escanor
    @NT_Escanor ปีที่แล้ว

    That felt like a great game

  • @clew1201
    @clew1201 ปีที่แล้ว

    Missed opportunity for the stax deck to be named "You shall not cast" 😂

  • @michaelgilbert5224
    @michaelgilbert5224 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was awesome

  • @Flowseidon44
    @Flowseidon44 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aragorn also wins with dockside and a bouncer. Pretty solid

  • @claytonlehmann3483
    @claytonlehmann3483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing how many decks you guys have, are all of your cards real or do you proxy the more expensive cards to use them in more than one deck?

    • @wabbab
      @wabbab ปีที่แล้ว

      They proxy a fair bit I believe, they've mentioned they have a big proxy box.

  • @vansinkalliandrios8997
    @vansinkalliandrios8997 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cam may have sang alot during this, but I definitely finished the songs.
    I wish, I wish, I wish I was a fish.
    I wish, I wish, I wish I was a fish.
    Mystiiiic Remorah's broken
    He just played it.
    Here we go again.
    Dun dun dun dun-dun-dun
    Dun dun dun-dun-dun
    Dun dun-dun-dun da! Doo do do..... yeah you guys get the point.

  • @jeramiahbarclayjr.7839
    @jeramiahbarclayjr.7839 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dylan was singing the entire time because of all the singing that happens in the books.

  • @Frommerman
    @Frommerman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sauron also cheated, which is even more flavorful.

  • @troygahrs4554
    @troygahrs4554 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Came here to tell Dylan that Andrew Lloyd Webber did write Cats!

    • @theatog
      @theatog ปีที่แล้ว

      I am actually a little puzzled how Cam busted out the ALW name but didn't know he wrote Cats ahaha

  • @Lykrast
    @Lykrast ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey at 5:55 did Christian forgot to remove the dryad arbor from the toxic deluge?

  • @lexisanterre
    @lexisanterre ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey guys, trying to get the gay to win shirt but the link only shows me the regular play to win design and I have that one already. Any help?

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      Should be an option if you scroll all the way down

  • @chrisfisette6613
    @chrisfisette6613 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I read Christians pronouns as Frodo/Sam and just accepted it

  • @GoldSabertooth
    @GoldSabertooth ปีที่แล้ว

    Sam makes the best Hulk Pile now! What are the best Abzan hulk commanders? Tymna Halana?

  • @showtelll
    @showtelll ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If Gandalf is on the battle field and you cast phyrexian revoler don’t you get to name 2 cards since gandolf doubles ETB triggers

    • @Andrew-ii2lf
      @Andrew-ii2lf ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Phyrexian revoker isn't an enter the battlefield trigger, is as it enter meaning upon resolution u name the card then hit the battlefield

  • @benjaminbruner5600
    @benjaminbruner5600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This game makes me sad because I want to play Aragorn but unfortunately it took so long for him to actually come into play

  • @mightyone3737
    @mightyone3737 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been getting weird vibes from 6 mana Sauron (The Dark Lord iirc), that is some serious Ward, and he's pretty beefy, and if you have the right deck you can make a lot of use out of a free 1/1 token each time an opponent casts a spell (which you can also just let get huge and have crush folks). Then, he also draws a bajillion cards for almost nothing, AND he fuels your Breach... while it's 6 mana to get him out, he's gonna stay out unless someone wipes or wins, I suspect this might be a nice Grixis Midrange deck, though I don't play Grixis.

  • @argonnas2
    @argonnas2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dylan you should try my darklord Sauron build

  • @taylorjohnson5148
    @taylorjohnson5148 ปีที่แล้ว

    That order shirt is great

  • @Brandopee
    @Brandopee ปีที่แล้ว

    The 2 life didn’t matter because you block with dockside against cam if your life total is actually at risk in which Tyler still kills you. No harm or foul, good game 👍🏼

  • @ShadowWasntHere8433
    @ShadowWasntHere8433 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great game but I’m a bit bummed you didn’t use the other Sauron. It’s was better

  • @kylecarson3318
    @kylecarson3318 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deck names are excellent

  • @TheSpunYarn
    @TheSpunYarn ปีที่แล้ว

    Lloyd Webber did write "Cats"

  • @commanderpower99
    @commanderpower99 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flavorful game!

  • @RedHarbinger
    @RedHarbinger ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a little sad Saruman of Many Colours didn't make it the cut, I think he's got some real game as an Esper commander to muck with people's wincons and steal value

  • @MrLazzzyboi
    @MrLazzzyboi ปีที่แล้ว

    the ring card is absolutely massive XD

  • @ric0ther0cker
    @ric0ther0cker ปีที่แล้ว

    I read as follows: Tyler he/him, Dylan he/him, Christian Frodo/Sam
    That was weird for my brain

  • @lserano1910
    @lserano1910 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The arbor land forgot the name but should be gone

  • @buckle9733
    @buckle9733 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love those shirts!

  • @Blasphemian336
    @Blasphemian336 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gollum the obsessed stalker is the best for cedh to me.

  • @m.k.685
    @m.k.685 ปีที่แล้ว

    Frodo's second attack wouldn't have triggered the loot, would it? Because attacks are already declared when the tempting resolves(?)

  • @aceofjesters6023
    @aceofjesters6023 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if this would change the game, but dylan should have 6 treasure when he casted dockside. There where 2 treasure of feild as well as the 4 artifacts he counted. Am I worng?

  • @dancer6452
    @dancer6452 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did Christian choose a ring bearer? I might have just been zoned and missed it

  • @keberwevon1
    @keberwevon1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cats and Phantom are the big ones! (he is my uncle)

  • @TheHunter128
    @TheHunter128 ปีที่แล้ว

    It hurt me thst you didnt run a stax life gain deck using the white green black commander that lets you search when you hit 110 life.

  • @scaevola
    @scaevola ปีที่แล้ว

    Andrew Lloyd Webber DID write Cats hahaha

  • @dancer6452
    @dancer6452 ปีที่แล้ว

    I keep waiting for the day someone gets their turn 1 fetch oppo agented, lololol happened to me yesterday and i want to see someone else feel the pain lololol

  • @cr33d012
    @cr33d012 ปีที่แล้ว

    He did write cats!

  • @MageSkeleton
    @MageSkeleton ปีที่แล้ว

    10:00 Why would you Dispel a Force of Will that's targeting to stop a literal Grand Abolisher "Legendary edition" that would be resolving on an opponents field? Wouldn't YOU want to be able to interact when it's their turn? It's amazing that Tyler didn't have what he needed to resolve a Walking Ballista nor Triskelion because Cam would had just given him the game.
    12:30 The Zulaport Cutthrout is redundant as Samwise, the cat, and a sacrifice outlet (Viscera Seer) is all you need to win. i would had fetched for another sacrifice outlet for sacrifice redundancy but i don't know what he had in mind maybe Zulaport was part of a "backup" plan.

  • @mehmetalisen2583
    @mehmetalisen2583 ปีที่แล้ว

    can't see reprieve in there and stax decklist

  • @ayejay2688
    @ayejay2688 ปีที่แล้ว

    did you know barrin master wizard COUNTS as a WIZARD!?

  • @jawsomejasper8353
    @jawsomejasper8353 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no lotho/lurrus?

  • @juggernautstark1
    @juggernautstark1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I see the hulk list?

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice game. ❤

  • @hiperbird
    @hiperbird ปีที่แล้ว

    dont worry! mistakakes are part of the game after all. were people

  • @PorterMulholland
    @PorterMulholland ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cam how was Dolleywood

  • @alexanderneimeth4538
    @alexanderneimeth4538 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shouldn’t Christians dryad arbor have died from the toxic deluge the second time around?

  • @bricktop9705
    @bricktop9705 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lord of the Nazgûl viable? Army in a can and can still run all the usual B/U stuff