What white people can do to move race conversations forward | Caprice Hollins | TEDxSeattle

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  • In this 2020 TEDxSeattle talk, Dr. Caprice Hollins explains why we often fail to have productive conversations about race, race relations, and racism in this country. Her talk sheds light on why People of Color and White people take different approaches to these conversations and what White people can do to move race conversations forward.
    With over twenty years of experience leading and facilitating conversations on race, Dr. Hollins uses current events and daily moments as teaching opportunities about race relations in America today.
    2:07 - Different approaches to race conversations
    8:14 - Understanding the Black Lives Matter movement
    14:11 - What white people can do to move the conversation forward
    More to explore:
    Learn more about Dr. Hollins on her website - culturesconnecting.com/
    Watch Dexter Dias’ talk “Racism thrives on silence - speak up!”: www.ted.com/talks/dexter_dias...
    Hear Megan Ming Francis urge a new approach to dismantling systemic racism in her talk “We need to address the real roots of racial violence”: www.ted.com/talks/megan_ming_...
    Listen to Abigail Spanberger explain connected conversation in her talk “How to connect with people who are different than you”: www.ted.com/talks/abigail_spa... With over twenty years of experience leading and facilitating conversations on race, Dr. Caprice Hollins’ success stems from one distinct attribute-the ability to embrace her own imperfections.
    Dr. Hollins stresses how she has learned to step back and reassess the “why” behind her work. She feels a clear calling, “I have the opportunity to change how this country has always treated those on the margins. I am an instrument for change.”
    Her work ranges from providing culturally relevant professional development to assisting organizations in improving cross-cultural relationships while working with diverse populations.
    In an effort to effectively engage all cultures, Dr. Hollins co-founded Cultures Connecting, LLC, an organization providing culturally relevant professional development workshops, keynotes, leadership coaching, and consulting services. Prior to this, she opened and served as the first Director of Equity, Race & Learning Support for Seattle Public Schools, as well as co-authored Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion: Strategies for Facilitating Conversations on Race. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

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  • @kobetclark
    @kobetclark ปีที่แล้ว +11

    7:55 - "thank you, you do too". incredible, love it

  • @my-own-boss
    @my-own-boss ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That group she talks about leading at the beginning of this sounds like an incredibly tense setting.

  • @sheilalindsay
    @sheilalindsay ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well this talk certainly grabbed my attention straight away...

  • @joo-jali
    @joo-jali ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Children are naturally curious and I agree it would be empowering and beneficial for them to hear their parent explain that people are all different colors on the outside but the same inside.

  • @josephkennedy4091
    @josephkennedy4091 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Mandatory opportunity to learn her transgressive ideology.

  • @melaniewolf7244
    @melaniewolf7244 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful lecture

  • @lilith8098
    @lilith8098 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    phenomenal

  • @MrEliaspalacios6
    @MrEliaspalacios6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Personally I don't have to ignore parts of you to get along with you. I like how Jane Elliot puts it.

  • @EnMay
    @EnMay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Thank you. Thank you for breaking down how we can all play a better role in the deconstruction of societal racism, to making every effort towards a group approach; that race is a conversation that deserves compassion, to be seen and heard with respect. No one should every feel, be, treated less-than or ignored.

    • @Brandon-bc5um
      @Brandon-bc5um ปีที่แล้ว

      lmaooo societal racism. Yall know that even bl people themselves say thats not a real thing? lol goofy

    • @drhollins
      @drhollins ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are so welcome. Thankyou for being open and curious to learning more and trying to find ways to build a society where no one's identity becomes a barrier to access and opportunity.

    • @LordRykard9376
      @LordRykard9376 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drhollins I actually know what the first step is towards solving this: we stop listening to leftist race hustlers like yourself. Its that simple.

  • @marcusatticuslordandrule
    @marcusatticuslordandrule ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It seems society in general is annoyed at anything and everything. And our ability to just talk and hear each other is severly compromised.

  • @mylittlesoulishappy
    @mylittlesoulishappy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is very well-put! thank you.

  • @thesugarshackishere
    @thesugarshackishere ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Mandatory learning opportunity" That's a very diplomatic way to label that kind of group Caprice, very gracious of you.

    • @glenda-russell
      @glenda-russell ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No kidding eh

    • @onewildandcrazyguy9213
      @onewildandcrazyguy9213 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey I appreciate you saying that. How many times do high school kids get called into a mandatory learning opportunity in the auditorium and they just tune out the speaker. The fall asleep or did joke around with their friends or just visit la la Land in their head.

    • @TheInnerPact
      @TheInnerPact 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      White People struggle to engage in this process because it is self-defeating.

  • @hlbv2599
    @hlbv2599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Thank you, Dr. Hollins. You gave us a lot to think about. Understanding how we deflect/avoid race conversations is the first step to changing those conversations.

  • @MrDMC11889
    @MrDMC11889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Race is a social construct. The thing is that many people say that and leave it there. It's a social construct that needs to be deconstructed.

    • @patrickobannon8924
      @patrickobannon8924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good point, that's another tactic, to accept something then leave it there and roll on as normal.

    • @dr.livesey7595
      @dr.livesey7595 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Race is written into your DNA.

    • @deanmichael1279
      @deanmichael1279 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Love this comment so much. In 2024 I think people are waking up.

  • @natalidejesusgonzalez3703
    @natalidejesusgonzalez3703 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "A mandatory learning opportunity." Wow I can't imagine how tense the energy in that workshop must have been

    • @drhollins
      @drhollins ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Race conversations are difficult for so many White people who were taught not to notice race. Difficult but necessary conversations.

    • @thomasel9171
      @thomasel9171 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drhollins no white person I've ever met was taught to not notice race, it's just not as important as these race baiters try to make it, they've brought racism into the light after we worked to hard to push it into he darkness, they keep racism alive with that toxic nonsense

    • @mjanny6330
      @mjanny6330 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially because most "race conversations" are just a session of racial hatred aimed towards white people.

    • @LordRykard9376
      @LordRykard9376 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drhollins 13/60

    • @patrickobannon8924
      @patrickobannon8924 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@drhollins Enforcing this taboo just teaches them that being a different race is bad in some way, to be avoided. Everyone notices race, we all have eyes.

  • @georgeheld1901
    @georgeheld1901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    10:05 wow this aged well with ACAB

  • @mikewobblyweaver
    @mikewobblyweaver ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "speaking universally does not move race conversations forward" an interesting point

  • @carlyberstani
    @carlyberstani ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I use to say "i dont see colour though!" which I realise now is such BS on my part and absolutely minimising experiences and injustices I have absolutely no idea about. This is a really informative talk Ms. Hollins, thank you!!

  • @davidangus6502
    @davidangus6502 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    wow, this is really insightful. I was definitely socialized not to ask questions about race from a young age

    • @phillipnorris3rd
      @phillipnorris3rd ปีที่แล้ว +1

      loved it

    • @patrickobannon8924
      @patrickobannon8924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The key point is if you're forbidden from talking about this, you internalise from a young age that being a different race is bad in some way. This grows into adulthood.

  • @maymaylui3rd
    @maymaylui3rd ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really enjoyed the way she broke it down like yeah we're all human but we don't treat everybody in this country as if they're human. That is the issue.

  • @kitofwhales4440
    @kitofwhales4440 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    As a mixed person I find this frustrating, I don't get a voice to be the ally I am,or the chance to tell my story as my skin is white. It's a cycle of racism from both sides and I'm just stuck sitting in the middle going "yeah your both wrong".

    • @nimmha6708
      @nimmha6708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You are more interesting than all the people who aren't mixed!!!!! I understand your thoughts, pain and ... "confusion?" .. , im basically a multi-cultural mixture in one... I feel you

    • @namjoonie936
      @namjoonie936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nimmha6708 why are you like 1% everything lol

    • @nimmha6708
      @nimmha6708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@namjoonie936 no

    • @noyourbusiness3459
      @noyourbusiness3459 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Why you don’t just listen without judging who’s right or wrong so whenever you need to speak about you you would understand better your own identity without those prejudices 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @jazlenmason8156
      @jazlenmason8156 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm also mixed, on the darker end of the spectrum. I've struggled with this exact same line of thinking, and I realized that Blackness is a construct. It's not about who you are that bleeds into your experience, it's about how you're PERCEIVED. You just have to be self aware, and balance what you're expecting to experience as a mixed race person, and who you know yourself to be. Good luck, sis

  • @EzraTamarind
    @EzraTamarind 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    So well said. This has been really helpful thank you

  • @jujubee90275
    @jujubee90275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Powerful

  • @minime5380
    @minime5380 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great talk, im from Cornwall uk and had those experiences as a child and feel immense guilt from some of the stuff I used to think and say. Not anymore thanks to my daughters and wife and you now 🙏

  • @artcornish3520
    @artcornish3520 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The hypothetical she gives around the 5:33 mark is super interesting. Yes, kids ask questions and we can't get mad at them for it. But I never realized just how much the person answering them can get it wrong BECAUSE they're so scared of getting it wrong, in earshot of the person the question is about, and all the ways that can set the kid up to carry on in ignorance, potentially for their whole life.

    • @patrickobannon8924
      @patrickobannon8924 ปีที่แล้ว

      The basic point is if you hush the child, they internalise that being a different colour is bad in some way. This grows into adulthood.

    • @onewildandcrazyguy9213
      @onewildandcrazyguy9213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Has she ever ridden public transportation. There are people who ride public transportation who are just itching for a fight. You have no idea how the stranger is going to react to what you say. Especially if the stranger has the attitude of wanting to interpret whatever they hear somebody say about them as an excuse to get into a fight. There are some people doesn't matter what you say around them they're going to interpret it as an excuse to get into a conflict. This is why most normal people are very cautious about what they say around the strangers in public transportation. They're especially avoidant of talking about something related to a stranger on public transportation because some people just want to fight and they're going to look at whatever you have to say as an excuse to fight.

    • @artcornish3520
      @artcornish3520 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patrickobannon8924 that's a much more concise way of putting it lol thank you

    • @artcornish3520
      @artcornish3520 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@onewildandcrazyguy9213 kinda seems like you're itching for a fight too

  • @dariusbrown7870
    @dariusbrown7870 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have a certain kind of distain for her generalization of white people in this talk.

    • @drhollins
      @drhollins ปีที่แล้ว

      I understand. People of Color have a hard time being overgeneralized as well. It's tough being lumped in a group and yet it is a reality. Unfortunately, for People of Color, overgeneralizing can end tragically.

    • @rangerstv602
      @rangerstv602 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think of it that way, I think she's generalizing what her experience has been. She's not implying that every single white person is guilty of everything she says

    • @drhollins
      @drhollins ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rangerstv602 Hello. You are correct. In fact that's my very point when I'm saying "White People" that White people generally have a hard time being lumped in a group without being triggered. I don't mean every single White person.

  • @colincampbell5068
    @colincampbell5068 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I appreciated this talk even though it made me uncomfortable remembering occasions when I was judged by my colour and found wanting.

    • @drhollins
      @drhollins ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heavy sigh. So many painful experiences around race. I like what Resma Menakem says in his book, My Grandmother's Hands about metabolizing that pain.

  • @charliebrownabel
    @charliebrownabel ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes absolutely Caprice to the part about how people aren't born blu, so the fact that people actually use that has always bothered me...like you CHOSE to do this for a living and it is a completely reactionary defense (a useless one) that those who are unwilling to look deeper use!

  • @t-bonebranson
    @t-bonebranson ปีที่แล้ว +5

    thanks for this Caprice. Very meaningful stuff, gives me a lot to think about.

    • @drhollins
      @drhollins ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, T-Bone. I'm glad you found it meaningful.

    • @drhollins
      @drhollins ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh good. I hoped it would leave people thinking.

  • @Liza-rx5yy
    @Liza-rx5yy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Dr. Hollins shared such wisdom and insight in this talk and specific examples on what white people can do to help dismantle racism in its many forms. i came here with that exact question - what can i do - and i am leaving with answers. thank you Dr. Hollins for an excellent talk - i will be looking into more of your work!!

    • @maxoblivion
      @maxoblivion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What's a white people?

    • @drhollins
      @drhollins ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, Liza. So glad you found it helpful.

  • @davidgoldenkranz
    @davidgoldenkranz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Spark notes for those of you that are looking for some of the wisdom that Dr. Hollins shares with us (White folks):
    "Dismantling structural racism means we must acknowledge that it exists."
    - It is our differences that make America great
    - Acknowledge our whiteness and the privileges that it holds
    - Try to become more aware of our biases
    - Take the time to learn about diverse group experiences
    - Listen and believe the stories that People of Color tell us
    - Learn to become more comfortable with the discomfort that arises from doing this work
    - Unpack institutional, systemic, and structural racism
    - Join the movement and take action to advocate for change
    Hope this helps!

    • @annabordelon6663
      @annabordelon6663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LOL You left out lie like a rug . She is more privileged than most and you are a clown

    • @bachart
      @bachart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@annabordelon6663 How do you define "privilege"? I'd like to hear your thoughts.

    • @annabordelon6663
      @annabordelon6663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@bachart In this case: Getting paid to be dishonest, being able to openly lie about society, being praised for hate

    • @annabordelon6663
      @annabordelon6663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Lisa Rowe wel, i am logical and rational That is why you can't understand...throw in honesty and you are left out in the cold

    • @ReptilianTeaDrinker
      @ReptilianTeaDrinker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@annabordelon6663 You don't seem very logical or rational, just delusional.

  • @justyourlocalrat_
    @justyourlocalrat_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Race matters, I do see color, and I am learning to sit in the discomfort of conversations like this. Thank you!

    • @drhollins
      @drhollins ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you for your willingness to lean in. Even I get uncomfortable at times. It's part of the work.

    • @Brandon-bc5um
      @Brandon-bc5um ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I dont understand why theyd want us to see. If we're acknowledging color, then we're also acknowledging the legions of negative things that comes with that skin.

    • @t-bonebranson
      @t-bonebranson ปีที่แล้ว

      truth!

    • @yowsers6475
      @yowsers6475 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You were in "discomfort" during this or in conversations like this? What was 'uncomfortable' about it?

    • @LordRykard9376
      @LordRykard9376 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yowsers6475 Its not a conversation, its called a "struggle session." In this instance, the race hustler is cajoling the audience to agree that whites are bad and oppressive and that you are guilty for being white. When he says "I'm learning to sit in discomfort," it means "I am willing to be browbeat for things I haven't done, to accept pathologizing the concept of identity (especially whiteness), and that I should defer to the race hustler for guidance on a problem that they are creating so they can sell the cure."
      Its snake-salesman techniques.

  • @indreadixonsedwayms9056
    @indreadixonsedwayms9056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    She is differently right, race is a social construct that needs to be reconstructed to view themselves as well as others as mere humans and those of you who refuse to see it that way means you have a personality disorder and should seek treatment immediately. Also, personally I refused to be reduced to a color I am way more than that, according to science a homosapien. That being said, people with (PD), and are unwilling to change their bigotry should not be in a position of power or in any job that deals with people, PERIOD. SMDH.

  • @firstlast-yn4qg
    @firstlast-yn4qg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    tell you what, i "need" more forward moves every time i see one of these video's because i have a lower and lower threshold for it.

  • @yolandast
    @yolandast ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sadly it seems like this "us vs you" mentality keeps people from actually thinking critically about what is being said in this conversation in the first place

  • @TheRealJay-Jay
    @TheRealJay-Jay ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn what she talks about around the the 5:33 mark is so true, especially the part about "when the person whose different can hear the question being asked." Seems kind of sad that the kid gets hushed because the parent doesn't know how to answer the question in a way they feel is inoffensive. Then the kid just feels like they're in trouble for asking questions like that and stops asking.

    • @drhollins
      @drhollins ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Jay Jay. I'm glad you found it helpful. :)

    • @patrickobannon8924
      @patrickobannon8924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The basic point is if you hush the child, they internalise that being a different colour is bad in some way. This grows into adulthood.

    • @onewildandcrazyguy9213
      @onewildandcrazyguy9213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that's a terrible example. If the person is a stranger they have no idea how the strangers going to react. What one stranger here is maybe music to their ears but another stranger may hear what they say as fighting words. Also there are people who ride public transportation who are itching for a fight and are itching for conflict and are looking to interpret whatever somebody says especially about them as an excuse to get into a fight. That's why people are careful about what they say on public transportation and people generally don't say things that are referenced about strangers within earshot because they don't know how they'll take it no matter what they say.

    • @onewildandcrazyguy9213
      @onewildandcrazyguy9213 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@patrickobannon8924 No it teaches them to not talk about strangers within earshot of strangers because that can cause conflict no matter what you say

  • @alexdenns
    @alexdenns ปีที่แล้ว

    I thoroughly appreciate how Ms. Hollins broke this down and really don't think she could be anymore on point. I just wish that the vast majority weren't so confronted by facing their own prejudices and flaws. It's all conditioning we need to hack at!

  • @anthonywilliams7052
    @anthonywilliams7052 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We need to talk about who is taking most of the lives, and it's not W PPL. But that's not an excuse for rheysysm like they want or the almost 200 SEGREGATED colleges promoting it.

  • @Egryn
    @Egryn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Wonderful
    Now do one about what blacks need to do to move the conversation about race and moving forward.

    • @mamadukebrooks9537
      @mamadukebrooks9537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Really 🤔
      Funny that no matter WHAT we do, our skin color just can’t seem to measure up to folks that look like you (assuming you’re white).
      Why not just listen for understanding instead of having such a narrow, judgmental comment 🤔

    • @annabordelon6663
      @annabordelon6663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mamadukebrooks9537 Buy a mirror

    • @annabordelon6663
      @annabordelon6663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mamadukebrooks9537 selected you.

    • @FishFryy
      @FishFryy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      We can’t talk about moving race forward because white people become so uncomfortable with the understanding that they came from generations of harm! So accept it so that we can discuss and then move on... That sounds like a better approach 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @atifhameen196
      @atifhameen196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You sound like her husband!

  • @therexh
    @therexh ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm thankful to have seen this Caprice because you're very right, a lot of us don't have any people of color in our communities that we can speak with, frankly and honestly without fear of it coming across badly

    • @MultiBunnyhunter
      @MultiBunnyhunter ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i live in a white community and couldn’t be any happier

  • @juventinocasillas3023
    @juventinocasillas3023 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Interesting when crime stats come up, all of a sudden we cant list the race.

    • @annmhmoore0771
      @annmhmoore0771 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They never acknowledge the data that states the facts of who is the actual perpetrators in society..They will become the destruction of America.. The hypocrisy is mind-blowing

    • @masianish
      @masianish หลายเดือนก่อน

      No nuance Nellie

  • @turboslayer5995
    @turboslayer5995 ปีที่แล้ว

    I struggled listening to Caprice because I grew up in apartheid South Africa and have strong emotions around racism.

  • @margaretstrom
    @margaretstrom ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this advice Caprice. It's hard when you want to do better but have no idea about what is actually helpful.

    • @drhollins
      @drhollins ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So true. I just keep reading, having conversations, and doing my best to learn and understand. However, I still make mistakes. I'm getting better at take risks and learning to be comfortable with the discomfort. I try not to let my fear of offending keep me from engaging because the only way I'm going to learn is to try. And whenever I try something new, I make mistakes.

  • @juanlsalazar
    @juanlsalazar ปีที่แล้ว

    I think a huge problem is also that a lot of yt people might not have a good rapport with any blaq people, at least not good enough to have these important conversations.

  • @gabekilljoy
    @gabekilljoy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't recall my family ever talking about racism. I wonder how difficult it would be to broach that subject now as a 'grown up'

    • @yowsers6475
      @yowsers6475 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It probably wouldn't be difficult at all. Some people like to say that it's 'difficult' for certain groups of people to talk about these topics but I don't know of any one in this "certain group of people" that have difficulty talking about this topic. Keep in mind, the conversation not going the way you wanted it to go or not getting the agreements you wanted does not mean that the conversation was 'difficult' for them.

  • @NoName-pe5no
    @NoName-pe5no 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What would you say would help to get rid of police brutality?

  • @callingformaria6684
    @callingformaria6684 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    phenomenal talk. This should be broadcasted worldwide !

    • @boweevil6442
      @boweevil6442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Should it be mandatory for whites ? Should white men be forced to listen to this presentation or , if they refuse , lose their employment ? Should a professor of psychiatry at Yale Med School suffer no consequences for publicly stating that she had fantasies of shooting white people in the head ?

    • @Brandon-bc5um
      @Brandon-bc5um ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would go with actual educated bl folk. True history instead of revisionist history. Check out uncletom here on YT. Great doc that talks about lots of stuff I never knew and almost, almost surprisingly just barely gave me a little of actual empathy for them... never thought id live to see the day lol

  • @iamaspacefreak
    @iamaspacefreak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    really valuable stuff. it's important we don't shy away from addressing these things head-on

  • @frodobaggins1505
    @frodobaggins1505 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I didn't know there is a Race Hustlers circuit...

  • @miraclemorgan1061
    @miraclemorgan1061 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kudos Miz Lady! You're ON Time! One Love,!

  • @ginaprantil7731
    @ginaprantil7731 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some actual facts would be nice.

  • @tometriceshepherd6609
    @tometriceshepherd6609 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why are Remi Eddo-Lodge comment on she no longer talking to white people about race, but her comments were turned off.

  • @GracefulJoey
    @GracefulJoey ปีที่แล้ว

    I tell all people regardless of their physical appearance that I don't see race because I'm not religious

  • @robmoore1895
    @robmoore1895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Thank you for this moving talk, Dr. Hollins!! As a white person who cares about issues of equity I found this to be both helpful and important.

    • @Brandon-bc5um
      @Brandon-bc5um ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL. I cant do anything but roll my eyes super hard and do the jerkoffsignal whenever I see people like you. so full of it and full of yourself

  • @bobdenson4265
    @bobdenson4265 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Define white!

  • @ihavecoolthings
    @ihavecoolthings ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think accountability is definitely the key here. So many people are scared to admit to/take responsibility for something they've done wrong. I think it's because they fear being labelled as a bad person or feel like it's an attack on who they are, and don't understand that denying they've done something wrong makes it so much worse than just stepping back, thinking about it and acknowledging that they've offended someone.

    • @yowsers6475
      @yowsers6475 ปีที่แล้ว

      "scared", "fear". Big sigh.

    • @mjanny6330
      @mjanny6330 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or they've never actually done anything wrong and are sick of being blamed for the personal failures of others.

  • @ivelinivanov7368
    @ivelinivanov7368 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a convoluted, wishy-washy attempt at justifying guilt attribution...

  • @mariacuevas6425
    @mariacuevas6425 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sandra Bland? Breonna Taylor? India Kager? etc.

  • @brandonfmathias
    @brandonfmathias ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:18 mark - absolutely. It's about accountability. That old trope about 'oh I can say this because of this connection I have to these people.' needs to f'in GO!! Just because one person from an entire group reckons you're okay doesn't mean you have the right to say whatever you want and not look at your shhtty behaviour when someone calls you out on it.

  • @yowsers6475
    @yowsers6475 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    No one's 'uncomfortable' about any conversation. Get real. That term, 'uncomfortable', is just used as an excuse and to blame others for unending victimhood.

  • @theclassicraphaelsanchez
    @theclassicraphaelsanchez ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW! powerful and needed talk...

    • @MultiBunnyhunter
      @MultiBunnyhunter ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what about this do modern Americans “need”?

    • @Matt-kt9nm
      @Matt-kt9nm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The counter argument: Coleman Hughes ted talk.

  • @MosheGoldbergTheKing
    @MosheGoldbergTheKing 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1. Post crime statistics
    2. Embrace pattern recognition
    3. Arm up accordingly

  • @hollyuya
    @hollyuya 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tells you what white people can do to move race conversations forward at 14:28. The rest of the video was what white people say that colludes with racism and stunts the race conversations. She had many, very specific, examples of what white people say and do that's wrong, only one specific example of how to answer a child's question about color (the example with the hands). She's not wrong in what she's teaching, I agree with her, just a mislabeled video. I would have like to hear more about what white people CAN do, after hearing about what they shouldn't do.

  • @cindys9491
    @cindys9491 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "People are not born blue". Exactly.

    • @yowsers6475
      @yowsers6475 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly? You understand what she meant when she said that about "Blue Lives Matter"? Ok, what does "people are not born blue" mean in reference to "Blue Lives Matter"?

  • @luc4metal
    @luc4metal หลายเดือนก่อน

    i am so sure this comment section is being censored.
    you can tell by the the ratio of dislikes on this video and strangely no comments of people disagreeing with the video in the comments.

  • @samacigrist
    @samacigrist ปีที่แล้ว

    Caprice, I have so much respect for you walking into rooms full of yt people, doing what you do. Brave af.

  • @msamymorin
    @msamymorin ปีที่แล้ว

    The truth is, this is the truth and this is the truth.

  • @elisbrokli
    @elisbrokli ปีที่แล้ว

    Take notes people 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @katebrown-schuh1278
    @katebrown-schuh1278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm trying to advocate for an entire community. People are frightened of the topic so it gets ignored. Meanwhile, people are still being poisoned. How do I break that down...alone? Thos was GREAT! I think everyone would benefit from this...but yes, white people need to for sure!!

    • @drhollins
      @drhollins ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You definitely don't want to do it alone. You are right. People are afraid for many different reasons. I hope you can find others to work along side you.

    • @yowsers6475
      @yowsers6475 ปีที่แล้ว

      People are "frightened" of the topic? Who's frightened?

    • @dariusbrown7870
      @dariusbrown7870 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’re killing me with the overt generalization.

  • @davidcollins2648
    @davidcollins2648 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You're stereotyping if you "see" race but you're ignoring their identity if you don't. Let's play race gotcha.

    • @intercat4907
      @intercat4907 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Five months later, checking to see if you've thought about listening again. david, it's safe to listen to this video. No one will get you. Best holiday wishes, no matter what.

    • @chiefandkat
      @chiefandkat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow! Your reply to David comes across as incredibly condescending.

    • @masianish
      @masianish หลายเดือนก่อน

      Comparing one experience of your experience with one person to the magnitude of a collective of experiences and affirmative action is crazy. Your argument lacks nuance, just bc your anecdotal experience fits that narrative doesn’t mean it should be an absolutist response to this issue. Pray you heal.

  • @darynadixon8759
    @darynadixon8759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing explanation of race conversations!💙💚💜✝✌

    • @BaldwinVoice
      @BaldwinVoice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You support racism?

  • @thipparatchuri-nagrusk
    @thipparatchuri-nagrusk ปีที่แล้ว

    As we continue to do what we can to eradicate and reinvent the systems that have failed us - how do my mixed friends ensure their voice can be heard too? What happens when you're not yt enough for privlege but not blaq enough to be a valued voice in the community?

    • @drhollins
      @drhollins ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a common challenge that light skinned bi/multiracial people struggle with. It's complex and requires some historical context to how we got to a place where People of Color wrestle with their racial and cultural identity. I can relate and know that the answer lies in becoming grounded in who we are. Yes, recognize where you have privilege AND know that you also have a story imbedded in institutional racism. No one gets to define whether you are enough of one race and not enough of another.

  • @abduljabbarsaleh9129
    @abduljabbarsaleh9129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You speak good English but do I care about English not I speak my language and that's what matter other than that it just a second language

  • @jokeen4106
    @jokeen4106 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did she say she doesn't assume someone's race and then say she knew he was white?

  • @josievannorman
    @josievannorman ปีที่แล้ว

    when someone says 'blue lives matter' my eyes roll back all the way into my head...such an iqnorant thing to say.

  • @verymarysalisbury
    @verymarysalisbury ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the comparison she gives around the 9:15 mark. Such a shame that people would rather go into defensive mode than just listen to what the other party is trying to say.

    • @patrickobannon8924
      @patrickobannon8924 ปีที่แล้ว

      It just means that minorities aren't worth listening to and their experiences aren't valid. Textbook white superiority

    • @thegreatergood8081
      @thegreatergood8081 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@patrickobannon8924race grifters are not worth listening to. Browbeating ashamed white people is how they make their money

    • @hallowakers3d2y
      @hallowakers3d2y ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Claiming defensive mode is just code for you arnt allowed to disagree. U are are white woman though so what to expect

  • @paigelpatterson
    @paigelpatterson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    racism is definitely not a thing of the past! thanks for the talk.

    • @yowsers6475
      @yowsers6475 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Racism has always been around and always will be, on every continent.
      Is racism a thought or an action?

  • @dncbot
    @dncbot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Please define a rational end goal for this focus on race. Where is it supposed to lead us and how?
    For me it seems unhealthy and counter productive. I prefer to treat people as individuals first. I agree that there are situations where looking at groups of people make sense, but as a general way of going about in the world it makes little sense to always have a group by race perspective.
    Without a stated and rational end goal for "moving conversation about race forward", I maintain that it is counter productive, creates and unhealthy focus on race, divides people and makes relationships more difficult, and last but not least causes very dangerous confirmation bias for perceived racism.

    • @daftwod
      @daftwod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The end goal is war.

    • @lonestarpatriot1166
      @lonestarpatriot1166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'll tell you what the end goal is... white submission. They don't want 50%, they want 85%. And they want us to thank them for allowing us the 15%. I say no way, what does everyone else say?

    • @dncbot
      @dncbot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lonestarpatriot1166 Some activists probably has this goal, but I have no reason to believe that's a general goal.
      My point is however not what the goal is, but the need to have a goal for when things are good enough. What can we live with, and what can't we.
      If not we will have forever activism, and of a type that I think makes relations between people worse and not better.

    • @JP-ri1wf
      @JP-ri1wf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lonestarpatriot1166 shut up

    • @lonestarpatriot1166
      @lonestarpatriot1166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JP-ri1wf you're a white supremecist

  • @wzhen9391
    @wzhen9391 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    'dismantling structural racism means acknowledging it exists', 💯💯💯💯💯💯

    • @ninadaly7639
      @ninadaly7639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even when it doesn’t??

    • @patrickobannon8924
      @patrickobannon8924 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ninadaly7639 If it didn't exist, why do whites behave in this way when race comes up. Angry, worried, run away etc. Reason: evasion protects the status quo.

    • @ninadaly7639
      @ninadaly7639 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patrickobannon8924 I don’t know ANYONE who likes to be insulted, vilified and blamed by total strangers for something they had nothing to do with. Do you??

    • @hallowakers3d2y
      @hallowakers3d2y ปีที่แล้ว

      Except it doesnt exist

  • @busbydean
    @busbydean ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I read somewhere recently that privilege is "thinking something isn't a problem because it's not a problem for you" so many people could work to understand what Caprice lays down here... Unfortunately I think some people are born without empathy.

  • @JK_JK_JK
    @JK_JK_JK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What is the definition of "White"?

    • @dariusbrown7870
      @dariusbrown7870 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What’s convenient for them.

    • @TheOmnitom
      @TheOmnitom หลายเดือนก่อน

      White is factually and statiscally is considered by the law of physics as the mass totality of all colour white people are a rainbow.

    • @TheOmnitom
      @TheOmnitom หลายเดือนก่อน

      Asains are yellow and burnt orange. Blacks are burnt orange. White asains have rainbow pigment cause they're white..... Lol.

    • @TheOmnitom
      @TheOmnitom หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This womens a narcissist lmao

  • @theonlyway977
    @theonlyway977 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every one has prejudices, but for those who have had more privledge, the lack of awareness is so brutal. There needs to be a circuit breaker to start educating our children to ensure we start when the programming normally kicks in from uneducated and narrow minded communities.

  • @danielkim7841
    @danielkim7841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    They need to take down this title. It is obviously meant to blame white people for everything. I'm not even white I'm asian and if there was a title called "How Asians Can Move Forward Race Relations" I would be livid. Please I hope the editors take down this very offensive title or at least change it no joke!

    • @yowsers6475
      @yowsers6475 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly.

    • @dariusbrown7870
      @dariusbrown7870 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s a reflection of the talk so I’d say it’s accurate.

    • @Xaviallin1
      @Xaviallin1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The way America identifies race always sickens me. When you put a title like this it implies literally anyone with European descent is to blame for racism when it couldn’t be further from the truth to say that all European countries are the same

    • @dariusbrown7870
      @dariusbrown7870 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Xaviallin1 That’s what I’m saying!

  • @stpeta17
    @stpeta17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What about Asians and Indians etc: why is this aimed specifically at ‘white’ people.

    • @n1_kki
      @n1_kki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      “Asians and Indians ect” Are all POC, white people are not and it’s important that they know the differences between them and POC, and what they can do to better understand and learn about POC. This comes from a white person btw 😺

    • @petepersimmons7938
      @petepersimmons7938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@n1_kkiso are all "colored people" monolith? Don't you think there are differences among "colored people" from different cultures?

    • @l5475
      @l5475 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@n1_kki poc are far more r@c!st towards others than us.

    • @j3barragui1
      @j3barragui1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly in this day and age, The Caucasian and Asian community go hand in hand 😂😂

    • @Xaviallin1
      @Xaviallin1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@n1_kki The way you use umbrella terms like “white” and “poc” comes off as very divisive. I’m guessing mixed people don’t exist. This is why I’m sick of American politics 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @JusticeErikson
    @JusticeErikson ปีที่แล้ว

    @drhollins This is a great talk! It was assigned in my class and I'm grateful that it's a part of my Social Work program. One note if I could, as a nonbinary trans person - "brothers, sisters, and nonbinary friends" feels off to me. For one thing, it places nonbinary people as less familial, like you are holding brothers and sisters close and us at arms length. Rather than included I felt like we were being singled out as an anomaly that demands attention, which is all too common in the trans experience. One alternate option - just "siblings" or "brothers, sisters, and siblings". It leaves room for us without drawing undue attention. Thank you for listening, and the work that you do.

    • @mjanny6330
      @mjanny6330 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Language policing, the hobby of the fascist.

  • @NewCreationInChrist896
    @NewCreationInChrist896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Seek God’s will daily.
    1 Corinthians 15👑
    Proverbs 8:17💞

  • @rubyjeancuyler4051
    @rubyjeancuyler4051 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow. It’s always refreshing to hear a crazy person try to lecture someone.

  • @jeffreymalulan8781
    @jeffreymalulan8781 ปีที่แล้ว

    god created human in this earth of any color skin

    • @yowsers6475
      @yowsers6475 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He even created White people and White people should be treated as human too.

  • @GPK033
    @GPK033 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I will never attend an anti-war rally; if you have a peace rally, invite me." - Mother Teresa ---- Blessings to everyone here. We are all one.

  • @julie-chan
    @julie-chan ปีที่แล้ว

    The question she asks about the kid on the bus... I think that's also a huge problem like yeah maybe it's unrealistic to think that there could be huge diversity everywhere but if your kid is able to ask fully formed questions before they've ever seen someone with different coloured skin... well you're probably living a very sheltered life.

  • @intercat4907
    @intercat4907 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Dr Hollins can face a room full of mostly male, mostly White police officers, all strangers forced by their jobs to attend her class, I can sit here and listen. A couple of times so far. People are dying while the video plays; let's listen faster.

  • @timothykramer2551
    @timothykramer2551 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your f up 😅😅😅

  • @pennyyeomans4115
    @pennyyeomans4115 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why is the world consumed with talk of race. I don't care what color your skin is and all I ask in return is that you don't care what color mine is. A very simple solution.

  • @georgenotbest
    @georgenotbest ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Personally I found the way she broke down the BLM movement really helpful

    • @LordRykard9376
      @LordRykard9376 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BLM? You mean that communist movement that burned cities for months on end?

  • @mademsoisellerhapsody
    @mademsoisellerhapsody ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The mind and the body are not the same thing.

  • @humanitywins7159
    @humanitywins7159 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    well, let's talk about race, then, with some logic. Condoning the mixing of races without limits and opening white societies to all races logically leads to a situation where the white race will disappear, given reproductive behaviour and dominance of genes. Every PoC seems to think this is a negligable little detail and whites should come to terms with and not make a fuzz about it.

  • @convictednotconvinced
    @convictednotconvinced 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Sure lady, I can do that. It sounds easy enough. What I need from you is to spend less time thinking about what everyone else can do for you and start figuring out what you can do for us. I feel like we're getting somewhere.

    • @nicolettekadiri8059
      @nicolettekadiri8059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      White Fragility?

    • @michellescott5301
      @michellescott5301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Obviously 'convicted' doesn't mean you're taking responsibility - you seriously want to be spoon fed? Grow up!

    • @lucindajohnstone2625
      @lucindajohnstone2625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She's not asking you to do anything but to understand the reality that exists.

    • @thisisacrappyusername892
      @thisisacrappyusername892 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What she's done everyone is: multiple talks on race, went on tedtalk to spread information on a platform, did workshops with institutions, founded a business to improve diversity training across fields and has wrote books on race/diversity.
      All you have to do lady, is have conversations with people while acknowledging race and racism.

    • @Brandon-bc5um
      @Brandon-bc5um ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lucindajohnstone2625 An alternate reality? Hey man, scifi has been pretty popular since the 60s-70s, im not judging! haha

  • @ninadaly7639
    @ninadaly7639 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The utter arrogance and narcissism of this lady is stunning! Delusional….(Twilight Zone theme song playing)

  • @thomas-meyer
    @thomas-meyer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do people really think that when someone says BLM that they are suggesting that others don't, or are they just being knowingly obtuse?

    • @Brandon-bc5um
      @Brandon-bc5um ปีที่แล้ว +4

      idk but they dont matter to me. so that movement is one of the biggest jokes. their lives will matter once ours matter to them. As long as they keep getting in my way and doing nothing but holding me back, I dont care about them at all.

    • @NotDuncan
      @NotDuncan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mostly being obtuse by focusing on the wrong parts or making false equivalencies

    • @yowsers6475
      @yowsers6475 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When people say BLM it's also common for those hearing it to think, "Did someone say they don't?" "No one said you don't matter, so why are you telling me/us you do matter?" "Of course you matter, no one said you didn't." These are common thoughts people have when they hear people shouting "BLM". Then, after hearing it for awhile, you start thinking, "Maybe they're telling it to themselves as some sort of positive reinforcement, 'cause no one thinks they don't matter."

    • @mjanny6330
      @mjanny6330 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, that's why they get so upset at phrases like "all lives matter" because they think no one else's does.

    • @ninadaly7639
      @ninadaly7639 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yowsers6475 When I think of BLM, I think of false narratives and a several million dollar fraud scheme!

  • @brandonwadeisfly
    @brandonwadeisfly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m American . I knew he was white . Uh I wouldn’t say that . That seems like something you would be very upset about if the roles were reversed