i’m a fat person who really struggles with losing weight due to sensory issues and being disabled, and people like *this* make it so that no one wants to even listen to us, much less take it seriously. it’s honestly infuriating.
@@impmillie9470 fr You'll see so much unsolicited hate under skinny people's content Someone's showing off her clothes and some whack job will start screaming about how their existence offends them
Slightly overweight and people like these make me worried that obesity and other health problems will become normalized and mainstream media. To those out there trying to lose weight, do it. Trust me as someone who lost alot over the course of a year it really helps with your mental state and makes you feel better in your own skin. I wish ANYONE trying to lose weight the best of luck, you can do it!♥️
As someone who's whole family is obese, I exercise because my family all suffer from health problems due to obesity and I want to live a long and healthy life. My parents are probably gonna die young due to health problems, my dad's already gotten a heart attack, and is at high risk to get one again. People need to understand that obesity isn't that healthy and comes with a variety of health problems, and exercising isn't "fatphobic", it's healthy to exercise. Also most of these people who are obese or are obese friendly skinny shame, it's just as bad to skinny shame as it is to fat shame.
like i always say, don't shame the fat people who put in the effort to make a difference, and if you shame the others, shame them for their lack of self control.
They just don't get that their biological body is actually fathobic. And somehow they continue, trying to change the reality they live in and ignore objective facts about the human body. Maybe it's because of their popularity, few young women on shitty social media platforms like TikTok, gaining the views and likes they never had, I thinks it's more of a psychological issue and that those people are just easy to influence.
as someone with some extra weight (im trying to lose it) , i can confirm that these tiktokers accusing random things for "fatphobia" (which btw i think is unreal, im literally ashamed of my own generation?) are actually insane. i literally cannot understand them. especially the one at 5:13 - 6:43 apparently having an eating disorder that causes you to be smaller is fatphobic. maybe we should talk about how having an eating disorder that causes you to be larger is 'skinnyphobic' -_- "guess ill put some carrots in my soup." (guess ill just excersise 2 be healthy) "actually, thats radishphobic." (actually thats fatphobic) "but.. im allergic to radishes??" (but... i want to be healthy so i can live longer??) food for thought: have you ever seen a fat/obese elderly?? even if you had, I guarantee you don't see it often. i wonder why...
My friend actually has an eating disorder and body dysmorphia so it generally was upsetting to hear that if you have an eating disorder you are fat phobic. A lot of people are so scared of gaining weight that they just want to be seen as perfect. They get bullied or teased because of their weight and then they try really really hard to lose it so people don’t see them as fat. Just because someone has body dysmorphia doesn’t automatically make that person fat phobic.
The problem with the "if your preference excludes a group of people" logic is that everyone has preferences like that. I personally wouldn't want a partner who is rude or toxic to others despite any motivation. But with the logic that I am suddenly excluding rude and toxic people from my preferences, I am now suddenly problematic. Hell, it even applies to to the people saying this, because I'm sure their preference lists include people who aren't "fatphobic". Well a "fatphobic" person who is just as valid as people who aren't "fatphobic" would be excluded from their lists. By their logic, they are not including a valid group of people and therefore are just as problematic as the rest of society. As an overweight person, I can say with full confidence that fatphobia does not exist. And I think the people who say that it does, have some insecurities about their weight and want to take it out on other people.
YES. I hate people like this. I'm fat, and like exercising and eating disorders aren't fat phobic as well as having preference?? It's the same as saying "if you're an adult and saying that you'd never date a minor then that's ageist and disrespectful towards kids/teens!!" Like, that logic is bs and doesn't make sense. Some people really need to stop thinking that everything is disrespectful and against them. Istg, some people just want to be oppressed so bad.
I don't understand these people complaining about this sort of discrimination, because fatness, if managed correctly, can be the key factor to be big as fuck (in muscles). I was fat a long time ago and i was even bullied for it (a group of calisthenics, super thin, ripped kiddos constantly harassed me). I'm still fat, but now i look like tachanka élite skin, I'm like a wall of muscles and if anyone of them even tries to lay a finger on me, with just a backhand slap i might send them to the moon.
The eating disorder one makes me so mad. I struggle at controlling how much I eat and it makes me feel self-conscious and disgusting. These people don’t realize how hypocritical they’re being. They say don’t shame people for their weight or eating habits yet do the same to people like me. Maybe I’m being irrational but it makes me so mad.
No you're not. It's perfectly valid. I don't have an eating disorder but my family does have a history of obesity and it makes me frustrated. (The eating disorder argument I mean.) In my opinion, fatphobia is not a thing. People that claim it's a thing are either self righteous advocates that don't care about real issues, or people who have insecurities they don't want to admit to or aren't entirely aware of having. This is not to say people should be rude to those who are heavier, but that it's not rationally possible for fatphobia to be a term that exists. And more over to the point where the term is ruled by things people can't control. Like dude, If you have an eating disorder, that's going to take time and therapy to change. On the one hand, it seems you're being "fatphobic" simply by existing it, on the other hand, trying to improve yourself so you can eat normally is also "fatphobic" because you aren't accepting your current weight and lifestyle choices. These people are totally hypocrites and you have every single right to be mad.
No ur not wrong. I am not diagnosed with an eating disorder but I do have problems eating I have gotten better since workout out and eating protein and it has caused me to eat more which I’m happy about. I am a very small person and I always have been and had this eating problem since I was younger (2-3years old) but I basically can’t eat 3 full meals a day before starting the protein powder I only ate 1 meal a day not intentionally but because I physically could not fit it in my stomach I felt full all day. And if I forced myself to eat I would puke or feel ill and have a stomach ache for hours. But when I would talk about this with people because I also struggle to find clothes that fit me most time I have to tie it in the back or diaper pin it. Anytime I brought it up to someone they would say “at least ur skinny” like no that’s not even right. Even if they themselves was an average body weight.
The product of eating disorders isn't simply rooted in low self esteem or body image, it is to literally MAINTAIN control. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but having an eating disorder isn't a byproduct of being 'fatphobic', people develop eating disorders for a variety of reasons, but a major aspect of it is to maintain a sense of a locus of control. (sorry if anyone is offended or if I got any info wrong)
Your not being irrational in anyway I know exactly how you feel.i also have an eating disorder(don't eat) yet because of my body build I'm quite chubby/fat.i completely disagree with these people shaming smaller people.i want to be slimmer and I think that may be part of the cause of my eating disorder .its just pathetic and hypocritical af and I'm honestly ashamed
Imagine if people were actually the proper version of homophobic OH NO DA GAYS!!! RUNNN!!! THEY ARE GOING TO INFECT US!!!! lol that would be so funny😂 man I could scare my brother all I want
Calling exercise and being healthy racist and offensive is like calling rehab and being sober a gateway to pain, despair, depression, madness, murder, insanity, all you can think of. I'm fat but these people baffle me.
As someone who used to have an eating disorder (I got help for it:D) Its not like you CHOOSE to struggle with food. The eating disorder I had was my body wouldn't be hungry. I knew I was hungry, but I didn't feel it. (If that makes any sense) And eating disorder is not fatphobic, cuz 1, you can't control it, 2 and eating disorder does not have its own thoughts and feelings
8:52 “When your preference excludes an entire margin of people, that’s not okay!” Bro with that logic she think being gay or something is homophobic 💀💀💀
watching these tiktoks has made me want to delete my whole social media persona and go start living under a rock so i dont get to hear this bs anymore. i should actually go to sleep :D
Yeah, frankly I can’t wait to back to school. Considering how dumb these people can be, I don’t take that back at all. I’m just glad that I don’t have a brain that is the size of a pea; much like them.
5:30 I currently have an ED and it is so much harder than she is making it out to be. I'm in recovery but I am scared of certain foods due to extreme lack of eating and social acceptance. It's like I'm addicted to not eating. It sucks and I hate how she is blaming the person and not the dieses. A lot of people downgrade EDs because they are mental illnesses, not physical and therefore seem less severe. It is still life threatening and people need serious help to overcome it. Having an ED is not a choice, it's an addiction that has woven it's way into my brain and now torments me every time I see a burger. So thanks TikTok lady, guess I'll just not have an ED anymore since it hurts so many overweight people!
I am a proud fatphobe, i have been so skinny that you can see the bones all my life and will keep it that way as long as i have the metabolism of a damn cheetah
I’m 12 and I’m on the heavier side (you might not want to talk to me since you are fatphobic!), could I ask you how u have such fast metabolism? I want to loose weight too because I’m scared for future me since I have slowly been becoming lazy since I have no friends to play tag with at school:(
@@caroscircus2315 i think you should find some people to play with and maybe take some time out of your day to exercise, also try eating healthy things like fruit and vegetables
I've always struggled with my weight, ever since I was little I've been overweight. This year I started seeing a trainer and I've noticed a big improvement in the amount of energy I have. I'm not scared of being fat, I would just rather not die at age 30 from a fucking cardiovascular disease.
5:40 As someone who has an eating disorder this is actually quite offensive. I struggle being able to eat for many reasons including my disorder, however because of my body shape I am quite chubby and overweight.i don't like this.i just don't get how I am fat phobic because of my personal preference of my body, anxiety around my body ect. and an eating disorder I cannot control??
Ive had two eating disorders and there hard things to get over for someone to say that a person struggling with an ED is fatphobic is rude and honestly insensitive to something you cant control having an ED doesnt make you fatphobic.
as someone who's kind of chubby, this is fucking asinine. "fatphobia" has nothing to do with racism. being black isn't going to make you seriously unlikely to live to 60. and wanting to be healthy isn't a problem. i despise when people envy other's accomplishments and then say what they did was some random word and then phobic.
i have very bad body dysmorphia, and since i grew up in a “chubby hispanic” household, i never ate since my siblings were always on diets too, feeling like i should do the same. even when i was severely underweight, i didnt eat and worked out until i felt like fainting from the lack of food, not wanting to end up with even just a bit of fat on my body. fast forwarding to now, i have lack of iron and im just barely eating enough. so hearing people say that not wanting to be fat is fatphobic, pisses me off since its just so inconsiderate to others feelings and experiences.
I dispise people like this. I'm fairly thin myself, and although I've never had an eating disorder, I have had horrible body image issues over most of my life because my own family, friends, and loved ones have shamed me for being thin naturally, something can't help or change. I've tried. Telling me I needed to eat more, telling me I was too skinny to be healthy, people telling me I should get therapy/go to the doctor for help. So I believed it and for a long time saw myself in my teen years as unhealthy and underweight because of what I'd been told my whole life and worked tirelessly to no avail to gain weight. I'm 100% sure thousands of others share a similar experience to my own. Fat people aren't the only ones who get picked on and shamed because of their bodies and aren't the only ones who struggle with self image and people treating them terribly. And this goes for everyone, some of us just can't help it. But those who can should not be commenting on others like this for making their own choices in life because they won't do anything about their situation
the eating disorder really made me mad, as someone who has been scared to eat after choking i refused to have lots of meals out of fear i would choke again (i did eventually get over it) eating disorders are not all related to refusing to eat, binge eating is a disorder of over eating so i dont know how it would be fat phobic
As someone with an eating disorder (I have anorexia) the lady at 5:13 just pissed me off. I am not fatphobic. I have an eating disorder because I am self-conscious about my body. It's not because I hate fat people or have something against them. In fact, I have nothing against them. I starve myself because I hate myself and how I look compared to the world. I have hated how I look for ages and apparently because I have Anorexia and can't control the fact that I just struggle to eat food and take care of myself I'm fatphobic. I just cannot.
Exactly. That pissed me off, I’m definitely not fat phobic, and I don’t hate fat people, infact I have several friends who are concerned medically overweight or obese. I just have Anorexia, I genuinely will start crying if I think about gaining weight or standing on a scale.
@@TristanLeeCurtis exactly like I'm not fatphobic in fact I was once attracted to someone who was fat cuz he was cute and he was really funny and nice and like my parents and one of my sisters are overweight like my dad and my sister have type 2 diabetes from being overweight and also like I was at my dads game store when I was forced to have a small pack of corn nuts for food and a dr pepper cuz there was no water at the time and I was literally about to have another panic attack from being forced to eat and when I told my friend Rae who I met there whose also genderfluid that it was the first thing I've eaten all day they were like you need to eat that's not good for you, please eat something but like that just makes it worse and I didn't want to have a second panic attack in front of them cuz it's just so much pressure and everyone tells me how unhealthy it is to want to lose 75 pounds and weight 60 pounds but they don't see us how we see ourselves. yk like it's really hard for us. Like we see ourselves so differently from everyone else and it's really really hard for us. Like we're trying our best like I weigh myself every day and hate myself for not losing enough weight. Being fat is hard but so is having an eating disorder yk. Like I'm not trying to push off that being overweight is a struggle cuz ik it is and it can be really really really hard for them to lose weight but they’re just pushing off the fact that having an eating disorder is also really really really hard.
Fr I used to have an eating disorder. My family and doctor stepped in, thank god. But the person in this TikTok made me want to scream. I’m not fat phobic. My ed wasn’t a choice. I will never understand people who pick on someone else for something they can’t even control…
Can't believe they are calling people with disabilities such as eating disorders fatphobic, that's kinda ableist if you ask me, they are putting others down to feel good about their weight, also people are allowed to have a positive body image or an attraction to people who take care of themselves
As someone who’s been struggling with an eating disorder for 5 years. I guess I’m fat phobic because I genuinely will start having a panic attack if I think about gaining any weight or standing on a scale
As someone who's overweight its not fat phobic to know the risks of being fat and calling it unhealthy. I have bad knees that have a hard time holding my weight without enough muscle holding it in place, which makes my anxiety go up from moving at all because I think my knee will dislocate. I go in panic attacks from thinking of my knee dislocating and I wouldn't have this problem if I were in shape but I'm too scared to try and get in shape while also risking my knee dislocating. And yes I use a knee brace whenever it hurts but I only have 1 and I have problems with both of my knees, so I'm waiting to get another one before I can feel comfortable doing squats and things to make my knees stronger Long story short, I have experience with side affects to being lazy and overweight and it's not fat phobic to realize it's unhealthy. Making fun of someone is bad, but stating risks isn't bad and can be beneficial.
Tbf having had an ED since my teens (now in my mid 30s & doing fine) Anorexia & Bulimia can be 100% fat phobic but not in the way wee “shove my face into the camera every other word to make a point” makes it out to be. Often (not always,surprise surprise, it’s complicated) it is a fear of becoming fat OR gaining weight to the point of periods. It’s seldom if ever (I’ve yet to hear of a case) a fear of others who are fat. Tbh, most of us don’t have any type of feeling either way to others who are fat, we literally don’t have the time cause we are SO preoccupied with thinking about ourselves our bodies, how many steps we’ve taken, how many calories we’ve consumed, how many we’ve burned. It’s completely personal, completely warped, completely selfish/self obsessed & completely NOT ABOUT YOU. It’s ridiculous.
While everyone is beautiful, and I personally accept all bodies, losing weight is a totally normal thing, but not being the skinniest person is okay also. We absolutely have no right or genuine need to make ‘fatphobia’ a thing. All bodies are beautiful, regardless of weight and appearance. period.
1:04 They also mercury was good for medicine. Where’s mercury? Oh yeah! NOT IN MEDICINE. If she was right it still means nothing because that was back in the day, and people call out anyone who is fat, which actually means that A. You are trying to say being fat is being black, trying to use black negatively (which is racist), B. You ignore how tough it is to be fat on the body and how many diseases it can cause and/or create because of its history (which is stupid), or C. Your argument sucks more than a vacuum cleaner in a dust bin (which makes sense). Take your pick.
Bro they saw being “fat” as a sign of wealth, which a long time ago would not be possible for people of color. Now that makes 0 sense due to all the r*cism in our world’s history with all the previous sl*ves the white people owned in the USA. If fat = wealthy, wouldn’t that mean that it’s found attractive? Being fat in the old times meant that you were able to eat tons since you had the money for it. Kind of confused, since that wasn’t the case for these poor people in the 18th, 19th, and early 20th centuries.
I think what “fat phobia explainers” are trying to do is stand up for a good cause but took a sad turn. And hear me out. So I think they wanted to spread a message to love yourself for who you are and your body and didn’t want heavier people to go without love in their life because of their weight, so it’s basically a branch off of the “love yourself movement” which I think is a good one (but that’s my own opinion) but then the people in this community started becoming more sensitive and then started thinking less about the message of body positivity and more about romantic preferences and making them see offensive even though their claims make little sense to someone who can comprehend basic science. How is science tied in? I’ll explain. You see, we are all organisms and our main genetic goal is to make more of our species. And you want stringer, healthy babies right? So obviously you would choose the fit person over the obese one. But these preferences are for reproduction purposes and are just basically set in your brain. Some people have different sexual preferences though and prefer more skinny or overweight people. And that is perfectly fine! But the people who claim to be against fat phobia are also trying to constrict which body type you should choose as a sexual partner it seems, and wish for everyone to be obese. Living in a world of obesity is honestly disgusting, unhealthy, and lazy. But that is my personal opinion as well as this entire essay I wrote in a TH-cam comment section so thank you if you read through this, sorry I really like science and such. 🥲
I’ve stopped eating as much as I used to as a kid, I don’t think it’s an eating disorder because I on some days I do eat a lot. However let’s say it was an eating disorder, how the hell does that make me fatphobic, me not being able to eat a lot means I’m discriminating against a group of people? That makes zero sense.
Something funny is that fat people don’t talk about fat phobic things but then some tik tok girl gets called fat and then she’s like oh everyone is fat phobic you are fat phobic if you work out and blah blah blah
As someone who in the past had a eating disorder, it’s nothing about other people being fat! I didn’t think about other people and I didn’t get it from being like “oh I hate fat people” I don’t understand where that idea comes from. Some people make me want to drive a car into a wall! (If anyone is trying to loose weight or struggling from an eating disorder, I wish you well! I believe in you
As a person with a diagnosed eating disorder, it is so hard to control it. I have anorexic bolemia, so I can’t help but eat and then starve myself. That chick made me so angry man.
While genetics and metabolism come into play when it comes to being fat, it doesn’t mean there isn’t a limit. Some people (including myself although I’ll admit my lifestyle doesn’t help) are born fat. The only reason older pictures of me are just skin and bones was because I was starving myself without realizing (a whole thing that I don’t want to get into mostly because I don’t fully understand what happened). That’s what it took for me to lose weight, starvation, and it’s the same way for some people. That doesn’t excuse people who are willing to risk their lives because they think working out is “fatphobic”. I’m not skinny and never will be, but I don’t want to be like my dad, so overweight he could die. I love him, really, and his mental health plays a big role in his physical state but that doesn’t change the fact that his life could be in danger.
Omfg people are so annoying, yea, humans are learning, people are going to say and do racist and fatphobic things with out knowing. Deal with it people and grow up!
As a 13 year old that is overweight I cannot understand how working out is Fatphobic. I WANNA WORKOUT SO I CAN LOOK AT MYSELF IN THE MIRROR AND PRETEND TO BE HANDSOME SQUIDWARD!
Being overweight and racism do interlink with each other through history. Fatphobia isn't entirely based on racism (I don't think), but the first girl had a point.
I don't think anyone would be shaking in their boots because they saw a fat person Edit: But people can you know dislike you because you're fat that doesn't mean that everyone does but still some people Edit 2: phone
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i’m a fat person who really struggles with losing weight due to sensory issues and being disabled, and people like *this* make it so that no one wants to even listen to us, much less take it seriously. it’s honestly infuriating.
Sorry abt that pal, I wish you the best though! Hope you have a wonderful week!
Oh man, hope the best for you ❤
I wish the best for you bro❤️
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Your not fat and even if you are your still pretty.
What happened to the term “body shaming”, we don’t need this “fatphobic” bs 😭
Because they want an excuse to body shame skinny ppl lol, like thats what they're doing ;-;
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You'll see so much unsolicited hate under skinny people's content
Someone's showing off her clothes and some whack job will start screaming about how their existence offends them
@@impmillie9470 I propose we start calling the ppl who use fatphobic we call them skinnyphobic
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Slightly overweight and people like these make me worried that obesity and other health problems will become normalized and mainstream media. To those out there trying to lose weight, do it. Trust me as someone who lost alot over the course of a year it really helps with your mental state and makes you feel better in your own skin. I wish ANYONE trying to lose weight the best of luck, you can do it!♥️
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Thanks I hope life is treating you right :)
you know that is really encouraging, thank you stranger on the internet.
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As someone who's whole family is obese, I exercise because my family all suffer from health problems due to obesity and I want to live a long and healthy life. My parents are probably gonna die young due to health problems, my dad's already gotten a heart attack, and is at high risk to get one again. People need to understand that obesity isn't that healthy and comes with a variety of health problems, and exercising isn't "fatphobic", it's healthy to exercise. Also most of these people who are obese or are obese friendly skinny shame, it's just as bad to skinny shame as it is to fat shame.
Say it louder for the people in the back! 📣
Man that sounds like my friends entire family tree
Keep going, don't let "fatphobia" stop you king
like i always say, don't shame the fat people who put in the effort to make a difference, and if you shame the others, shame them for their lack of self control.
YOUR FATPHOBIC jk fat people who say that are morons.
Mate,some people really don’t use their common sense smh. Nice content, keep it up!
Imagine going to the gym to see some random girl tell you to read a book how calling someone fat is racist.
They just don't get that their biological body is actually fathobic.
And somehow they continue, trying to change the reality they live in and ignore objective facts about the human body.
Maybe it's because of their popularity, few young women on shitty social media platforms like TikTok, gaining the views and likes they never had, I thinks it's more of a psychological issue and that those people are just easy to influence.
I’m a black guy who works out, what does that make me?
@@Metal_Head234 uhm, youre obviously fatphobic bro, i can't believe this /s
as someone with some extra weight (im trying to lose it) , i can confirm that these tiktokers accusing random things for "fatphobia" (which btw i think is unreal, im literally ashamed of my own generation?)
are actually insane. i literally cannot understand them. especially the one at 5:13 - 6:43
apparently having an eating disorder that causes you to be smaller is fatphobic. maybe we should talk about how having an eating disorder that causes you to be larger is 'skinnyphobic' -_-
"guess ill put some carrots in my soup." (guess ill just excersise 2 be healthy)
"actually, thats radishphobic." (actually thats fatphobic)
"but.. im allergic to radishes??" (but... i want to be healthy so i can live longer??)
food for thought: have you ever seen a fat/obese elderly?? even if you had, I guarantee you don't see it often. i wonder why...
The girl at 5:13 might actually have brain damage
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My friend actually has an eating disorder and body dysmorphia so it generally was upsetting to hear that if you have an eating disorder you are fat phobic. A lot of people are so scared of gaining weight that they just want to be seen as perfect. They get bullied or teased because of their weight and then they try really really hard to lose it so people don’t see them as fat. Just because someone has body dysmorphia doesn’t automatically make that person fat phobic.
Exactlyyyyy
I wish the best for your friend
telll your friend that they shouldn't listen to the internet on this shit, a single person can be smart but a society is full of idiocy
The problem with the "if your preference excludes a group of people" logic is that everyone has preferences like that.
I personally wouldn't want a partner who is rude or toxic to others despite any motivation.
But with the logic that I am suddenly excluding rude and toxic people from my preferences, I am now suddenly problematic.
Hell, it even applies to to the people saying this, because I'm sure their preference lists include people who aren't "fatphobic".
Well a "fatphobic" person who is just as valid as people who aren't "fatphobic" would be excluded from their lists.
By their logic, they are not including a valid group of people and therefore are just as problematic as the rest of society.
As an overweight person, I can say with full confidence that fatphobia does not exist.
And I think the people who say that it does, have some insecurities about their weight and want to take it out on other people.
i'm not fat, never been, but like i can imagine how mortified the fat people with common sense are that this is how they're being portrayed
YES. I hate people like this. I'm fat, and like exercising and eating disorders aren't fat phobic as well as having preference?? It's the same as saying "if you're an adult and saying that you'd never date a minor then that's ageist and disrespectful towards kids/teens!!" Like, that logic is bs and doesn't make sense. Some people really need to stop thinking that everything is disrespectful and against them. Istg, some people just want to be oppressed so bad.
I don't understand these people complaining about this sort of discrimination, because fatness, if managed correctly, can be the key factor to be big as fuck (in muscles). I was fat a long time ago and i was even bullied for it (a group of calisthenics, super thin, ripped kiddos constantly harassed me). I'm still fat, but now i look like tachanka élite skin, I'm like a wall of muscles and if anyone of them even tries to lay a finger on me, with just a backhand slap i might send them to the moon.
@@gasparagotrancioni7047 oh goodness
“Thats literally borderline cultural appreciation”
The eating disorder one makes me so mad. I struggle at controlling how much I eat and it makes me feel self-conscious and disgusting. These people don’t realize how hypocritical they’re being. They say don’t shame people for their weight or eating habits yet do the same to people like me. Maybe I’m being irrational but it makes me so mad.
No you're not.
It's perfectly valid.
I don't have an eating disorder but my family does have a history of obesity and it makes me frustrated. (The eating disorder argument I mean.)
In my opinion, fatphobia is not a thing. People that claim it's a thing are either self righteous advocates that don't care about real issues, or people who have insecurities they don't want to admit to or aren't entirely aware of having.
This is not to say people should be rude to those who are heavier, but that it's not rationally possible for fatphobia to be a term that exists.
And more over to the point where the term is ruled by things people can't control.
Like dude, If you have an eating disorder, that's going to take time and therapy to change.
On the one hand, it seems you're being "fatphobic" simply by existing it, on the other hand, trying to improve yourself so you can eat normally is also "fatphobic" because you aren't accepting your current weight and lifestyle choices.
These people are totally hypocrites and you have every single right to be mad.
No ur not wrong. I am not diagnosed with an eating disorder but I do have problems eating I have gotten better since workout out and eating protein and it has caused me to eat more which I’m happy about. I am a very small person and I always have been and had this eating problem since I was younger (2-3years old) but I basically can’t eat 3 full meals a day before starting the protein powder I only ate 1 meal a day not intentionally but because I physically could not fit it in my stomach I felt full all day. And if I forced myself to eat I would puke or feel ill and have a stomach ache for hours. But when I would talk about this with people because I also struggle to find clothes that fit me most time I have to tie it in the back or diaper pin it. Anytime I brought it up to someone they would say “at least ur skinny” like no that’s not even right. Even if they themselves was an average body weight.
The product of eating disorders isn't simply rooted in low self esteem or body image, it is to literally MAINTAIN control. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but having an eating disorder isn't a byproduct of being 'fatphobic', people develop eating disorders for a variety of reasons, but a major aspect of it is to maintain a sense of a locus of control. (sorry if anyone is offended or if I got any info wrong)
Your not being irrational in anyway I know exactly how you feel.i also have an eating disorder(don't eat) yet because of my body build I'm quite chubby/fat.i completely disagree with these people shaming smaller people.i want to be slimmer and I think that may be part of the cause of my eating disorder .its just pathetic and hypocritical af and I'm honestly ashamed
i 100% agree, me not wanting to eat has NOTHING to do with fatphobia, it’s a FEAR of controlling weight not a fear of fat people
Phobia means irrational fear
I am not afraid of someone I could outrun
LMAO
This needs more likes
Outwalk*
Imagine if people were actually the proper version of homophobic
OH NO DA GAYS!!! RUNNN!!! THEY ARE GOING TO INFECT US!!!!
lol that would be so funny😂 man I could scare my brother all I want
I think a phobia is an intense fear of something
Calling exercise and being healthy racist and offensive is like calling rehab and being sober a gateway to pain, despair, depression, madness, murder, insanity, all you can think of. I'm fat but these people baffle me.
Rehab can mess people off if done incorrectly I agree wit what u saying tho
As someone who used to have an eating disorder (I got help for it:D) Its not like you CHOOSE to struggle with food. The eating disorder I had was my body wouldn't be hungry. I knew I was hungry, but I didn't feel it. (If that makes any sense) And eating disorder is not fatphobic, cuz 1, you can't control it, 2 and eating disorder does not have its own thoughts and feelings
Same but i dont think thats an eating disorder
@@Nosmelc It is, doctor diagnosed! I can never remember the name for it tho, your welcome to google it if your curious!
8:52 “When your preference excludes an entire margin of people, that’s not okay!”
Bro with that logic she think being gay or something is homophobic 💀💀💀
watching these tiktoks has made me want to delete my whole social media persona and go start living under a rock so i dont get to hear this bs anymore. i should actually go to sleep :D
I very much agree 👍🏻
Bruh these tik toks make me want to die. I did not know how many idiots there is on the planet :•|
Yeah, frankly I can’t wait to back to school. Considering how dumb these people can be, I don’t take that back at all. I’m just glad that I don’t have a brain that is the size of a pea; much like them.
@Kioskelis Pleasant dreams🛌😴💤
So stupid how these people try to equate something that you usually have full control over with attributes that are uncontrollable like race and stuff
Someone not being attracted to girls makes one womanphobic then.
And someone being depressed is happyphobic then.
That logic is stupid
“something something fatness as a black trait”
american stereotypes: am i a joke to you
well back in olden times (yes ik) ppl would sexualize fat black ppl like sara bartman so…
Love how these people put in so much work to convince people on how being fat is a good thing
But never put that much effort into losing thr weight
That's what I'm saying 😭
They're worrying about the wrong thing
5:30 I currently have an ED and it is so much harder than she is making it out to be. I'm in recovery but I am scared of certain foods due to extreme lack of eating and social acceptance. It's like I'm addicted to not eating. It sucks and I hate how she is blaming the person and not the dieses. A lot of people downgrade EDs because they are mental illnesses, not physical and therefore seem less severe. It is still life threatening and people need serious help to overcome it. Having an ED is not a choice, it's an addiction that has woven it's way into my brain and now torments me every time I see a burger. So thanks TikTok lady, guess I'll just not have an ED anymore since it hurts so many overweight people!
it takes a lot of strength to admit a problem and do something about it im rlly proud of you
I used to have an eating disorder. This part of the video (as well as all of the other tiktoks) made me want to scream.
I am a proud fatphobe, i have been so skinny that you can see the bones all my life and will keep it that way as long as i have the metabolism of a damn cheetah
I’m 12 and I’m on the heavier side (you might not want to talk to me since you are fatphobic!), could I ask you how u have such fast metabolism? I want to loose weight too because I’m scared for future me since I have slowly been becoming lazy since I have no friends to play tag with at school:(
@@caroscircus2315 i think you should find some people to play with and maybe take some time out of your day to exercise, also try eating healthy things like fruit and vegetables
I'm a fatphobe too, despite being fat, and I'm loosing weight, i lost 5kg (11lbs) in a week or two
@@Blueskies2513 I love fruit but I HATE VEGETABLES 🤮
I also have some dogs now and I walk them up a lot of hills :) and I run and they chase me!
@@caroscircus2315 dogs are great
as someone with an eating disorder called Anorexia which it sucks words cannot describe how much it sucks i find the lady in 5:23 as the wicked witch
I've always struggled with my weight, ever since I was little I've been overweight. This year I started seeing a trainer and I've noticed a big improvement in the amount of energy I have.
I'm not scared of being fat, I would just rather not die at age 30 from a fucking cardiovascular disease.
Fat liberation is real it liberates their believers from life with heart attacks
HA!
5:40
As someone who has an eating disorder this is actually quite offensive. I struggle being able to eat for many reasons including my disorder, however because of my body shape I am quite chubby and overweight.i don't like this.i just don't get how I am fat phobic because of my personal preference of my body, anxiety around my body ect. and an eating disorder I cannot control??
Gosh …. I used to have an eating disorder and was underweight and I am supposedly fat fobic it wasn’t my choice to have this problem!😪😑
Ive had two eating disorders and there hard things to get over for someone to say that a person struggling with an ED is fatphobic is rude and honestly insensitive to something you cant control having an ED doesnt make you fatphobic.
as someone who's kind of chubby, this is fucking asinine. "fatphobia" has nothing to do with racism. being black isn't going to make you seriously unlikely to live to 60. and wanting to be healthy isn't a problem. i despise when people envy other's accomplishments and then say what they did was some random word and then phobic.
They're thinphobic and mad at me for being a spooky scary skeleton
8:16 nah waking up early is snoozephobic smh
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i have very bad body dysmorphia, and since i grew up in a “chubby hispanic” household, i never ate since my siblings were always on diets too, feeling like i should do the same. even when i was severely underweight, i didnt eat and worked out until i felt like fainting from the lack of food, not wanting to end up with even just a bit of fat on my body. fast forwarding to now, i have lack of iron and im just barely eating enough. so hearing people say that not wanting to be fat is fatphobic, pisses me off since its just so inconsiderate to others feelings and experiences.
9:03 bruh it’s like saying “I’m into only men,” doesn’t make you sexist it’s just a preference. I swear some people should stay off the internet
Every time I dont feel like working out, I go back to these videos and the urge comes back instantly.
7:40 as soon as she said to turn my listening ears on, I pulled my earbuds out of my ears.
These people make it seem like an eating disorder is something that people choose to have.
I dispise people like this. I'm fairly thin myself, and although I've never had an eating disorder, I have had horrible body image issues over most of my life because my own family, friends, and loved ones have shamed me for being thin naturally, something can't help or change. I've tried. Telling me I needed to eat more, telling me I was too skinny to be healthy, people telling me I should get therapy/go to the doctor for help. So I believed it and for a long time saw myself in my teen years as unhealthy and underweight because of what I'd been told my whole life and worked tirelessly to no avail to gain weight. I'm 100% sure thousands of others share a similar experience to my own. Fat people aren't the only ones who get picked on and shamed because of their bodies and aren't the only ones who struggle with self image and people treating them terribly. And this goes for everyone, some of us just can't help it. But those who can should not be commenting on others like this for making their own choices in life because they won't do anything about their situation
Same
Do people not understand what fatphobia is?? 2:10, that's like saying "not wants to be gay is homophobic."
The fact these are mostly alt girls greatly terrify me
I am deeply sorry for my kind, they are the "deformed" side of us humans.
the eating disorder really made me mad, as someone who has been scared to eat after choking i refused to have lots of meals out of fear i would choke again (i did eventually get over it) eating disorders are not all related to refusing to eat, binge eating is a disorder of over eating so i dont know how it would be fat phobic
3:25
GRAM PACER TEST IS A MULTISTAGE AEROBIC CAPACITY TEST THAT GETS PROGRESSIVELY MORE DIFFICULT AS IT CONTINUES
i swear these people are saying this as an excuse not to work out
As someone with an eating disorder (I have anorexia) the lady at 5:13 just pissed me off. I am not fatphobic. I have an eating disorder because I am self-conscious about my body. It's not because I hate fat people or have something against them. In fact, I have nothing against them. I starve myself because I hate myself and how I look compared to the world. I have hated how I look for ages and apparently because I have Anorexia and can't control the fact that I just struggle to eat food and take care of myself I'm fatphobic. I just cannot.
Exactly. That pissed me off, I’m definitely not fat phobic, and I don’t hate fat people, infact I have several friends who are concerned medically overweight or obese. I just have Anorexia, I genuinely will start crying if I think about gaining weight or standing on a scale.
@@TristanLeeCurtis exactly like I'm not fatphobic in fact I was once attracted to someone who was fat cuz he was cute and he was really funny and nice and like my parents and one of my sisters are overweight like my dad and my sister have type 2 diabetes from being overweight and also like I was at my dads game store when I was forced to have a small pack of corn nuts for food and a dr pepper cuz there was no water at the time and I was literally about to have another panic attack from being forced to eat and when I told my friend Rae who I met there whose also genderfluid that it was the first thing I've eaten all day they were like you need to eat that's not good for you, please eat something but like that just makes it worse and I didn't want to have a second panic attack in front of them cuz it's just so much pressure and everyone tells me how unhealthy it is to want to lose 75 pounds and weight 60 pounds but they don't see us how we see ourselves. yk like it's really hard for us. Like we see ourselves so differently from everyone else and it's really really hard for us. Like we're trying our best like I weigh myself every day and hate myself for not losing enough weight. Being fat is hard but so is having an eating disorder yk. Like I'm not trying to push off that being overweight is a struggle cuz ik it is and it can be really really really hard for them to lose weight but they’re just pushing off the fact that having an eating disorder is also really really really hard.
Fr I used to have an eating disorder. My family and doctor stepped in, thank god. But the person in this TikTok made me want to scream. I’m not fat phobic. My ed wasn’t a choice. I will never understand people who pick on someone else for something they can’t even control…
It’s been two years as you said, but I haven’t found the thread. Wait that rhymes
The girl at 7:15 is gonna be pissed when she finds out about sexuality.
“You’re a MAN?? Who likes OTHER MEN??? That’s WOMANPHOBIC!!1!1!one!1!”
im such a silly womanphobe
Can't believe they are calling people with disabilities such as eating disorders fatphobic, that's kinda ableist if you ask me, they are putting others down to feel good about their weight, also people are allowed to have a positive body image or an attraction to people who take care of themselves
As someone who’s been struggling with an eating disorder for 5 years. I guess I’m fat phobic because I genuinely will start having a panic attack if I think about gaining any weight or standing on a scale
being fatphobic is a good thing dont worry 🤗
this type of videos is my work out motivation
As someone who's overweight its not fat phobic to know the risks of being fat and calling it unhealthy. I have bad knees that have a hard time holding my weight without enough muscle holding it in place, which makes my anxiety go up from moving at all because I think my knee will dislocate. I go in panic attacks from thinking of my knee dislocating and I wouldn't have this problem if I were in shape but I'm too scared to try and get in shape while also risking my knee dislocating. And yes I use a knee brace whenever it hurts but I only have 1 and I have problems with both of my knees, so I'm waiting to get another one before I can feel comfortable doing squats and things to make my knees stronger
Long story short, I have experience with side affects to being lazy and overweight and it's not fat phobic to realize it's unhealthy. Making fun of someone is bad, but stating risks isn't bad and can be beneficial.
Tbf having had an ED since my teens (now in my mid 30s & doing fine) Anorexia & Bulimia can be 100% fat phobic but not in the way wee “shove my face into the camera every other word to make a point” makes it out to be. Often (not always,surprise surprise, it’s complicated) it is a fear of becoming fat OR gaining weight to the point of periods. It’s seldom if ever (I’ve yet to hear of a case) a fear of others who are fat. Tbh, most of us don’t have any type of feeling either way to others who are fat, we literally don’t have the time cause we are SO preoccupied with thinking about ourselves our bodies, how many steps we’ve taken, how many calories we’ve consumed, how many we’ve burned. It’s completely personal, completely warped, completely selfish/self obsessed & completely NOT ABOUT YOU. It’s ridiculous.
This makes me want to work out non-stop
I propose the ultimate battle, engween vs engween
While everyone is beautiful, and I personally accept all bodies, losing weight is a totally normal thing, but not being the skinniest person is okay also. We absolutely have no right or genuine need to make ‘fatphobia’ a thing. All bodies are beautiful, regardless of weight and appearance. period.
As a fat person myself this is just wrong GOING TO THE GYM IF YOUR FAT MEANS YOU WANT TO BE HEALTHY
1:04 They also mercury was good for medicine. Where’s mercury? Oh yeah! NOT IN MEDICINE. If she was right it still means nothing because that was back in the day, and people call out anyone who is fat, which actually means that A. You are trying to say being fat is being black, trying to use black negatively (which is racist), B. You ignore how tough it is to be fat on the body and how many diseases it can cause and/or create because of its history (which is stupid), or C. Your argument sucks more than a vacuum cleaner in a dust bin (which makes sense). Take your pick.
Godzilla had a stroke trying to read this
@@loganithink3349 I was in distress
Bro they saw being “fat” as a sign of wealth, which a long time ago would not be possible for people of color. Now that makes 0 sense due to all the r*cism in our world’s history with all the previous sl*ves the white people owned in the USA. If fat = wealthy, wouldn’t that mean that it’s found attractive? Being fat in the old times meant that you were able to eat tons since you had the money for it. Kind of confused, since that wasn’t the case for these poor people in the 18th, 19th, and early 20th centuries.
All of them
Mercury? The liquid
8:58 that lady was the after school daycare teacher when I was very young. Look at where she is now. 💀
I have a photographic memory and recognize her face and voice.
Really? Cool i guess, and kinda sad
@@ericboom1712 yeah lmao
5:53 I'm pretty sure preferring someone who wakes up early excludes a large group of people, her own logic contradicts her argument
I’m going to predict the next title “seeing is racist”
At this point being fatphobic is good thing, since it lost it's meaning.
I literally dont have any equipment for working out all I do is pushups and I'm ripped
I think what “fat phobia explainers” are trying to do is stand up for a good cause but took a sad turn. And hear me out.
So I think they wanted to spread a message to love yourself for who you are and your body and didn’t want heavier people to go without love in their life because of their weight, so it’s basically a branch off of the “love yourself movement” which I think is a good one (but that’s my own opinion) but then the people in this community started becoming more sensitive and then started thinking less about the message of body positivity and more about romantic preferences and making them see offensive even though their claims make little sense to someone who can comprehend basic science. How is science tied in? I’ll explain. You see, we are all organisms and our main genetic goal is to make more of our species. And you want stringer, healthy babies right? So obviously you would choose the fit person over the obese one. But these preferences are for reproduction purposes and are just basically set in your brain. Some people have different sexual preferences though and prefer more skinny or overweight people. And that is perfectly fine! But the people who claim to be against fat phobia are also trying to constrict which body type you should choose as a sexual partner it seems, and wish for everyone to be obese. Living in a world of obesity is honestly disgusting, unhealthy, and lazy. But that is my personal opinion as well as this entire essay I wrote in a TH-cam comment section so thank you if you read through this, sorry I really like science and such. 🥲
I’ve stopped eating as much as I used to as a kid, I don’t think it’s an eating disorder because I on some days I do eat a lot. However let’s say it was an eating disorder, how the hell does that make me fatphobic, me not being able to eat a lot means I’m discriminating against a group of people? That makes zero sense.
Eating McDonald's for every meal is a good way to live. I'd strongly suggest 4 big macs per meal in order to not be fatphobic.
I eat crackers
@@Blueskies2513 that's unhealthy :(
@@Credentis_lit i. Dont care im an bri'ish
+ heart attack
@@Blueskies2513 go eat beans and toast bri'ish boy
Something funny is that fat people don’t talk about fat phobic things but then some tik tok girl gets called fat and then she’s like oh everyone is fat phobic you are fat phobic if you work out and blah blah blah
I bet she tells people how many calories they need
Not me working out watching this video
I love your videos and i support you!! Keep it up!!❤️🔥💕
Oh no guys the fact that I've lost a few pounds because I wana be fit and fast is fatphobic 😢😢😭😭
As someone who in the past had a eating disorder, it’s nothing about other people being fat! I didn’t think about other people and I didn’t get it from being like “oh I hate fat people” I don’t understand where that idea comes from. Some people make me want to drive a car into a wall! (If anyone is trying to loose weight or struggling from an eating disorder, I wish you well! I believe in you
Gabriel Iglesias has once said: “There’s 5 levels of fatness! Fluffy is one of the levels. There’s big, healthy, husky, fluffy and DAMN!”
this is why I fucking hate tiktok 💀
Lmfao
Same
Is it only me or is it that every engween video I click on, I won’t feel satisfied until I press the like button idk why just happens to me.
3:33 "life goes oninoininoinoininoini" 💀
Nah 💀
Female Oliver Tree 💀
Body builders when they see the title: OH S-
As a person with a diagnosed eating disorder, it is so hard to control it. I have anorexic bolemia, so I can’t help but eat and then starve myself. That chick made me so angry man.
While genetics and metabolism come into play when it comes to being fat, it doesn’t mean there isn’t a limit. Some people (including myself although I’ll admit my lifestyle doesn’t help) are born fat. The only reason older pictures of me are just skin and bones was because I was starving myself without realizing (a whole thing that I don’t want to get into mostly because I don’t fully understand what happened). That’s what it took for me to lose weight, starvation, and it’s the same way for some people. That doesn’t excuse people who are willing to risk their lives because they think working out is “fatphobic”. I’m not skinny and never will be, but I don’t want to be like my dad, so overweight he could die. I love him, really, and his mental health plays a big role in his physical state but that doesn’t change the fact that his life could be in danger.
Omfg people are so annoying, yea, humans are learning, people are going to say and do racist and fatphobic things with out knowing.
Deal with it people and grow up!
When she said turn of my listening ears i turnd my Volume wayyyyy down
1:30 I think a lot of ten year olds are smarter then that women
woman*
Back in the day, fatness was seen as a rich person trait, because the poor worked hard for barely any profit and barely any food
6:03 I have a eating disorder does that mean I'm fat phobic.
Hell no it doesn't!
ToTaLlY!
Ofc not, you can’t control it.
me casually watching this video while getting new push up pb
As a 13 year old that is overweight I cannot understand how working out is Fatphobic. I WANNA WORKOUT SO I CAN LOOK AT MYSELF IN THE MIRROR AND PRETEND TO BE HANDSOME SQUIDWARD!
i mean i agree, who wouldnt want to be handsome Squidward 😩
same but with patrick star with boots
@@anyawithagun5977 or Larry lobster
Everyone wants to be handsome squidward, male or female he's a body standard 😩
I just wanna pull up to school looking like Handsome Squidward and do the Squidward Dance
People just took the word fatphobic and ran with it
I love how I'm now 'fatphobic' bc I have an ED. I refuse to believe I share the same air as these ppl 😭
Some of these genuinley made me cry. But talking more about this is really good keep it up love your content!
Ain't no way these people r serious💀
fr fr
I legit got done exercising and now I'm racist
Being overweight and racism do interlink with each other through history. Fatphobia isn't entirely based on racism (I don't think), but the first girl had a point.
I feel like obese is eventually gonna be a slur
Racism chain
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in the first one it says fatness was seen like blak in the 1700 but in china it was seen as a shine of wealth
May I remind everyone that there's a difference between a good healthy weight and having a diet of pure junk.
as a slipknot fan who struggled with eating disorders, i dont claim that girl
I don't think anyone would be shaking in their boots because they saw a fat person
Edit: But people can you know dislike you because you're fat that doesn't mean that everyone does but still some people
Edit 2: phone
No wonder why India banned Tiktok.
Fat phobia chain
Fat phobia
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Working out is fatphopic and racist 🙄
-This was a joke-
IT WAS A JOKE