I just absolutely love the miniatures that Fantasy Flight has crafted for both X-wing and Armada (and even Rebellion). The detail, sculpting, and paint jobs on those ships are simply beautiful.
Based partly on this video and your other presentations on 2.0, I finally decided to buy the core set and give it a try. I had recently introduced a new player to 1.0 and now we have played through 2.0. Our decision is that 2.0 is a wonderful change and gives the game a much needed revitalization. I have now purchased all of the new ships and the packets to upgrade all of my ships to 2.0. Thanks so much Crabbock for doing these videos and providing those of us who are merely casual players with some "inside the game" insight.
There are a lot of upgrades that you will have to buy outside of your faction if you want to use them, the business model has not been changed. Barrage Rockets, Agile Gunner, Composure, 0-0-0, BT-1, Maul, Moldy Crow title, there's probably more.
Thanks for the excellent summary! I'm hoping to get back into Xwing now that things are opening back up. I never upgraded from 1.0, so I just ordered my Imperial Conversion kit and I'll soon be ready to bring order back to the galaxy ;)
I bought the Scum Conversion kit and noticed that there were no Mangler Cannon or M3-A Title cards. Checked on the App and couldn't find them either. Were they removed from the game due to being too OP? Also, on the App I'm trying to build a squad but I can't upgrade my M3-A with Engine Upgrades. But I can add it to my HWK. There seems to be no restrictions on the Engine Upgrade or M3-A, so why can't I upgrade it?
So, as far as I get it is that if you already have the core set for 2.0, it's actually a good idea to buy the core set for 1.0 since the plastic bases of the ships are the same size and the ship detail cardboard base fits on it. Plus additional obstacles, dice and manoeuvre templates for a lot more cheap. Or am I mistaking?
I thiiiink so, i know that the pilot cardboard that fits into the bases dont work for the new edition because the pilot skills dont line up anymore and the diles are different. But if you get sticky notes and a hole punch you can cover up the pilot skill and write your own numbers
_x-wings and y-wings are already out of stock right from the beginning!_ is it going to be the same bs as the first squadrons from armada that are STILL out of print and going for 10 times their price on ebay?
A gaming store near me was doing a massive sale on all tabletop stuff and so I decided to pick up the core set and Slave 1 for cheap. I've been playing armada and enjoy it so this should be pretty cool
Could you confirm another change I saw in a video? When declaring target lock action, it seems you can now measure all ships and obstacles on the board before deciding which one you lock on. It that true?
Yes that is true. It says so in the rules reference. "1. Measure range from the locking ship to any number of objects. 2. Choose another object at range 0-3."
1st Edition will longer be officially supported. You can purchase conversion kits that hav new dials, tiles, tokens, and cards to convert to 2nd edition. You can still play 1st edition, but the competitive X-Wing scene will be playing 2nd.
Thanks so much that explains a lot cuz I had no idea what changes were what. I was planning on starting with one faction because of cost. But I'm wondering with X-Wing expanding to 7 factions I wonder if they're going to have rules on mixing factions and who would scrum be ok to mix with
Thanks for all the videos you have posted. I'm like you and fly all 5 current factions. I bought 2 core sets and a conversion kit for the first 3 factions and have ordered a kit for the new fractions coming. I'm looking forward to clone wars.
Hi, great vid mate. I’ve got ships for the empire, rebels, resistance and first order. Am I now going to have to buy conversion kits for all 4 factions and get a core stater set too? That’s going to be few shiny coins indeed.
Love your videos - I have a question about ship facing. I only had a chance to assemble my new Lando's Falcon before leaving for vacation, and the ship does not face straight forward on the peg. It looks like something similar is going on with your x-wing in this video. Do you know if this is an intentional change?
I’m really happy with the majority of changes. I’m concerned that new pilots, etc. will be introduced when individual ships are released wave 3 and beyond. E.g., the b-wing, which was included in the conversion kit, is re-released as its own expansion for 2.0 and includes new stuff. That would suck, and the urge to continue to throw money at fantasy flight must be resisted. But regardless, love the content crabbock, and I appreciate your use of the range ruler as a pointer in this vid.
There will be new cards added to the waves, but I believe there will be an cheaper option for veteran players to buy the cards without having to re-buy ships they already own
Josh Jorgensen Perhaps. Maybe I just haven’t read anything about it, but I’m not going to hold my breath. It seems like you are suggesting what I’ll call a ‘wave-kit’. So if this happens, we assume b-wings, tie bombers, and the Khiraxz are all in wave 3, maybe new pilots and upgrades will be sold separately? Sounds awesome, but again, unless there is something I missed ( if there is, please provide a link), I won’t hold my breath.
Is there any way to convert other then conversion kits? For example i have inherited some extra v1 core sets so now i have 8 ties. But the kits only convert 4. Do i really need to buy 2 just to convert over the extra ties even though i dont need ANY of the other items in the kit?
In the rules reference the ordnance symbol, means "no range bonuses for attack". I read that to mean the attacker won't get any bonuses, but that implies the defender will still get an extra die at range three. Thoughts? Also, as for target lock, you are allowed to measure after announcing a lock attempt. Now you must announce target lock attempt, but you can then measure all ships to decide which to lock. Another good video, keep 'em coming!
It would be interesting to combine "Armada" with "X-Wing" to include epic ship combat. I haven't touched Armada though, and am not sure whether that is feasible.
The scale would be off. The epic ships in x wing are much smaller in Armada. If you put a YT-2400 from X Wing next to a Gozanti in Armada it would be twice the size of it.
Ok I’m starting to warm up to 2.0 a little bit more. Thanks for the video. If you get a chance play a game with the tie punishers, that could bring me back.
Punishers as medium-base ships are a ton of fun to fly. Redline with proton torpedoes for only 53 points is fantastic as he can focus and target lock without stress every round.
During x-wing 1.0 I used them as bombers a lot, but just as I study the punisher in 2.0 there dial is better. I’m willing to run redline and deathrain with a bunch of missiles and torpedoes with capt jonus for rerolls!!
Yeah I'm not a fan of any of the new mechanics... I fortunately have a large enough collection to just stick to what ive got and play in house "oldwing"
Lol you peasants actually use the cardboard they give you. If you have a printer machine just go online to "YASB 2.0" and put the cards in the trash. You'll save so much time and space. Trust me. So much easier. P.s I was just joking with the peasant thing btw
The same thing happened to mine. You should take a hobby knife and break the paint/glue between the main body and the wings. Be careful and eventually it will loosen.
I got into xwing minitures about a year ago apparently right before 2.0 came out didnt even know or realize it because I bought all the 1.0 ships and I got out of it for 4/5 months because lack of people to play with and now I got back into it and just discovered about 2.0 and I already invested too much money in 1.0 to switch, so this sucks for me lol
You seem to be the most knowledgeable when it comes to all 3 FFG Star Wars games. Great Stuff!! Keep em coming! I'm already a big Legion player and because of your videos, I've bought X-wing 2.0 Starter and X-wing Booster as I'll be playing rebels. Any Idea if FFG will release a 2.0 version of the Corellian Corvette?
No more flying wedge flying with Poe????? and no more flying Quick draw Darth Vader ???? so only faction fly with faction. if that is true I think that's good.
The rules reference states: "Ships from different faction will not typically fly together" So I take that to mean that in tournaments only one faction per squad. I agree, that is a good thing.
So not only is X-wing 1.0 stuff obsolete, but the X-wing 2.0 stuff requires an app to actually play properly?!?! That just doesn't feel right for a board game.
I don't think I'll be paying them any more money Tbh... Might look for secondhand 1st edition stuff but that's it. Also when will 3rd edition hit and then 4th?
Pulled my xwing stuff out of storage after about a 2 year break to discover this shitstorm! I'm afraid to update a year into 2nd edition because 3rd edition is likely right around the corner...
I think that would be unlikely, I believe we went about 6 or so years with first edition and we're only a year and a half into second edition, not to mention each faction still has tons of ships that can be added or reprinted(except sequel factions I guess, but time and continued development of the time period will fix that I'm sure).
@@Zavakar yeah its too late lol. I got 2 core games and 2 expansions pack (heroes and aces) extremely cheap. Been having a blast with friends. But who knows if I plan to make the 2.0 jump theres the conversion kits... Though most say 2.0 is a travesty 🤔
Not that old. Clone Wars era factions at this point - but I suppose KOTOR timeline is possible at some point. If that were to happen, I think it would be in the future after an Old Republic based TV show comes out on Disney's streaming service.
Changed the damage cards? Why!? So I have to spend more money just to get the damage cards. This bs! I play scum and villainy so the core box is useless for me......
I don't know what to tell you except that I just put a TIE from the last core set up against a TIE from this core set, and the bumps matched up perfectly. All the old bases still work just fine, which is why conversion kits only come with medium bases.
If they are going crazy with the factions, shouldn't they create multiple different scum factions? I mean, scum is not an united faction. They should basically introduce a new faction for every real scum factions. So, they should make a few different Hutt factions. Basically every headhunter/mercenary should be their own faction. That would be amazing for gameplay, if you really had only like 1 or 2 (unique) ships per faction. Maybe make it more realistic and limit pilots and upgrades for each faction. Why should Han/Chewbacca be allowed to fly their Millenium Falcon with any other upgrades than in the movies? And Luke should only be allowed to fly with R2D2!
@@MasterNeptor geez oh man! why the heck won't they fix it? I just purchased a bunch of stuff to convert from first edition to second edition. I hope I didn't make a mistake...
Hey Crabbock, the Purple color you mentioned for the speed maneuvers, that could BE...LUDICROUS SPEED, GO!! They've gone to Plaid!! 😆😆😆
Prepare ship for Ludicrous speed!
Preparing,preparing,always preparing Just f***ing do it!
I see your shwarts is bigger than mine... ;)
He has the Upside, I have the down side...
Rajah Kossuth...hah..ludicrious speed..goooooooo!!!! I havent heard that in years!lol
I just absolutely love the miniatures that Fantasy Flight has crafted for both X-wing and Armada (and even Rebellion). The detail, sculpting, and paint jobs on those ships are simply beautiful.
That's true!
Based partly on this video and your other presentations on 2.0, I finally decided to buy the core set and give it a try. I had recently introduced a new player to 1.0 and now we have played through 2.0. Our decision is that 2.0 is a wonderful change and gives the game a much needed revitalization. I have now purchased all of the new ships and the packets to upgrade all of my ships to 2.0. Thanks so much Crabbock for doing these videos and providing those of us who are merely casual players with some "inside the game" insight.
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who here would buy a KOTOR version of X-Wing Miniatures? I know I would :D
Fire up the 3D printers
There are a lot of upgrades that you will have to buy outside of your faction if you want to use them, the business model has not been changed. Barrage Rockets, Agile Gunner, Composure, 0-0-0, BT-1, Maul, Moldy Crow title, there's probably more.
Thank you for the video to help explain the difference. I’m still sticking with 1.0 as the cost is too high to change and I only play with a friend.
Thanks for the excellent summary! I'm hoping to get back into Xwing now that things are opening back up. I never upgraded from 1.0, so I just ordered my Imperial Conversion kit and I'll soon be ready to bring order back to the galaxy ;)
One update: the new rules reference clarifies that if you fail a red action you still take a stress even though you couldn't complete the action.
Wow, that is a lot of information to soak in. Interested to see some of your future Imp builds.
I bought the Scum Conversion kit and noticed that there were no Mangler Cannon or M3-A Title cards. Checked on the App and couldn't find them either. Were they removed from the game due to being too OP? Also, on the App I'm trying to build a squad but I can't upgrade my M3-A with Engine Upgrades. But I can add it to my HWK. There seems to be no restrictions on the Engine Upgrade or M3-A, so why can't I upgrade it?
Hey C, thanks for the video. Do you think that it is a good time to buy 2.0 or is there a new edition due soon?
Will my old plastic maneuver dial covers work with the new maneuver dials?
So, as far as I get it is that if you already have the core set for 2.0, it's actually a good idea to buy the core set for 1.0 since the plastic bases of the ships are the same size and the ship detail cardboard base fits on it. Plus additional obstacles, dice and manoeuvre templates for a lot more cheap. Or am I mistaking?
I thiiiink so, i know that the pilot cardboard that fits into the bases dont work for the new edition because the pilot skills dont line up anymore and the diles are different. But if you get sticky notes and a hole punch you can cover up the pilot skill and write your own numbers
_x-wings and y-wings are already out of stock right from the beginning!_
is it going to be the same bs as the first squadrons from armada that are STILL out of print and going for 10 times their price on ebay?
so, is it better to pick up the 1.0 stuff and a conversion kits? Or just go with 2.0 since I am not already deep into my collection?
@Donal Murphy... I know I’m late, but I think that you should go for 2.0 stuff
A gaming store near me was doing a massive sale on all tabletop stuff and so I decided to pick up the core set and Slave 1 for cheap. I've been playing armada and enjoy it so this should be pretty cool
My friend got me into X-Wing and suggested your channel to learn more about the game. I’ve subscribed and this video is perfect for a beginner.
Wow Iv got a LOT to learn
Wait hang on
You must unlearn what you have learned
🤣
Could you confirm another change I saw in a video? When declaring target lock action, it seems you can now measure all ships and obstacles on the board before deciding which one you lock on. It that true?
Yes that is true. It says so in the rules reference.
"1. Measure range from the locking ship to any number of objects.
2. Choose another object at range 0-3."
Finally picked up my first 2.0 upgrade. Thanks for the video
Is there a change in dice from 2.0 to the original version?
nope
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Oh thank the Internet, Crabbok also created this video! THANK YOU SO MUCH GREAT ADMIRAL OF THE STAR WARS GAMES!
Hello guys
Quick question, I dont have ships yet. Where should I start? Buy 1.0 or 2.0??
Is 1.0 úseless for this era?
1.0 box core sets are very cheap if you want to try.
What is going to happen to version 1.0? I have version 1.0 are they now obsolete? And is version 1.0 still going to be available?
1st Edition will longer be officially supported. You can purchase conversion kits that hav new dials, tiles, tokens, and cards to convert to 2nd edition. You can still play 1st edition, but the competitive X-Wing scene will be playing 2nd.
Thanks so much that explains a lot cuz I had no idea what changes were what. I was planning on starting with one faction because of cost. But I'm wondering with X-Wing expanding to 7 factions I wonder if they're going to have rules on mixing factions and who would scrum be ok to mix with
"Broken turret" could be used for the arc170 rear cannon and the like maybe?
He has a rear firing arc instead of a turret slot
Thanks for all the videos you have posted. I'm like you and fly all 5 current factions. I bought 2 core sets and a conversion kit for the first 3 factions and have ordered a kit for the new fractions coming. I'm looking forward to clone wars.
So much for the TIE punisher being the biggest small ship
Are the 1.0 and 2.0 miniatures compatible? Or do I have to buy and look for 2.0 only. Just starting to look into the game
They are compatible but AMG is phasing out the 1.0 stuff for standard play, so I’d focus on the black box 2.0 ships
Conner net needs to be much cheaper since it only has one charge and can't be reloaded.
Agreed
Why skill are change from 1-10, to 1-6?
Hi, great vid mate. I’ve got ships for the empire, rebels, resistance and first order. Am I now going to have to buy conversion kits for all 4 factions and get a core stater set too? That’s going to be few shiny coins indeed.
Love your videos - I have a question about ship facing. I only had a chance to assemble my new Lando's Falcon before leaving for vacation, and the ship does not face straight forward on the peg. It looks like something similar is going on with your x-wing in this video. Do you know if this is an intentional change?
No it is not intentional.
It's due to mass production issues. It happens with almost all Miniature games. Well, at least in my experience.
I’m really happy with the majority of changes. I’m concerned that new pilots, etc. will be introduced when individual ships are released wave 3 and beyond. E.g., the b-wing, which was included in the conversion kit, is re-released as its own expansion for 2.0 and includes new stuff.
That would suck, and the urge to continue to throw money at fantasy flight must be resisted.
But regardless, love the content crabbock, and I appreciate your use of the range ruler as a pointer in this vid.
There will be new cards added to the waves, but I believe there will be an cheaper option for veteran players to buy the cards without having to re-buy ships they already own
Josh Jorgensen
Perhaps. Maybe I just haven’t read anything about it, but I’m not going to hold my breath. It seems like you are suggesting what I’ll call a ‘wave-kit’. So if this happens, we assume b-wings, tie bombers, and the Khiraxz are all in wave 3, maybe new pilots and upgrades will be sold separately? Sounds awesome, but again, unless there is something I missed ( if there is, please provide a link), I won’t hold my breath.
Is there any way to convert other then conversion kits? For example i have inherited some extra v1 core sets so now i have 8 ties. But the kits only convert 4. Do i really need to buy 2 just to convert over the extra ties even though i dont need ANY of the other items in the kit?
In the rules reference the ordnance symbol, means "no range bonuses for attack". I read that to mean the attacker won't get any bonuses, but that implies the defender will still get an extra die at range three. Thoughts?
Also, as for target lock, you are allowed to measure after announcing a lock attempt. Now you must announce target lock attempt, but you can then measure all ships to decide which to lock.
Another good video, keep 'em coming!
'No range bonuses' applies to range 3 as well, so defending ships do not get another die at range three.
Do you think they will have a Slaved Turret that can only be facing a single arc the whole game? Prob could attack at range 3.
I'd love that. Would remind me of BTL Y-Wings.
Is there an update to the huge ships like the CR-90 Tantative IV, Raider, Gozanti, and C-Roc?
Nothing that I have seen, which makes me feel they may be abandoning epic as that stuff would have been in the conversion kits.
I could see them adding a "epic" conversion kit down the road. As of right now though no info on what they are going to do with epic.
It would be interesting to combine "Armada" with "X-Wing" to include epic ship combat. I haven't touched Armada though, and am not sure whether that is feasible.
The scale would be off. The epic ships in x wing are much smaller in Armada. If you put a YT-2400 from X Wing next to a Gozanti in Armada it would be twice the size of it.
Ah, I should be more clear. Kind of use Armada as a big picture battle, and X-Wing for small battle skirmishes like a cinematic cut scene.
Did you mention the change in evades actions?
What's actually available ATM?
Exactly what I needed. Thx!! :D
can we use old stuff from v.1 or the 2 versions are not compatibles
Yes, but you need to buy a conversion kit. They're two separate games
Wait so can I use da old xwing stuff??
Ok I’m starting to warm up to 2.0 a little bit more. Thanks for the video. If you get a chance play a game with the tie punishers, that could bring me back.
Punishers as medium-base ships are a ton of fun to fly. Redline with proton torpedoes for only 53 points is fantastic as he can focus and target lock without stress every round.
I just want them to be meta worthy, been a fan of this ship for a long time.
During x-wing 1.0 I used them as bombers a lot, but just as I study the punisher in 2.0 there dial is better. I’m willing to run redline and deathrain with a bunch of missiles and torpedoes with capt jonus for rerolls!!
OMFG ! Do i have to start all over now !?
This ain't cool.
Yeah I'm not a fan of any of the new mechanics... I fortunately have a large enough collection to just stick to what ive got and play in house "oldwing"
Lol you peasants actually use the cardboard they give you. If you have a printer machine just go online to "YASB 2.0" and put the cards in the trash. You'll save so much time and space. Trust me. So much easier.
P.s I was just joking with the peasant thing btw
I bought a fang fighter and i cannot move the wings......
The same thing happened to mine. You should take a hobby knife and break the paint/glue between the main body and the wings. Be careful and eventually it will loosen.
Nice overview.
My dad and I recently got the force awakens core set is we just learned it now we have to relearn it
Its not that different dude. Takes like 2 games to get it down pat
Mr. sting ray you also have to get the new stuff though to convert it
I got into xwing minitures about a year ago apparently right before 2.0 came out didnt even know or realize it because I bought all the 1.0 ships and I got out of it for 4/5 months because lack of people to play with and now I got back into it and just discovered about 2.0 and I already invested too much money in 1.0 to switch, so this sucks for me lol
Great overview
You seem to be the most knowledgeable when it comes to all 3 FFG Star Wars games. Great Stuff!! Keep em coming! I'm already a big Legion player and because of your videos, I've bought X-wing 2.0 Starter and X-wing Booster as I'll be playing rebels. Any Idea if FFG will release a 2.0 version of the Corellian Corvette?
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No more flying wedge flying with Poe????? and no more flying Quick draw Darth Vader ???? so only faction fly with faction. if that is true I think that's good.
The rules reference states: "Ships from different faction will not typically fly together" So I take that to mean that in tournaments only one faction per squad. I agree, that is a good thing.
The App allows for custom rulesets, so there exists the possibility that a store might run a special event, which allows cross-faction lists.
I just got the first edition for 15$ to upgrade I have to buy the hole second edition.?
So not only is X-wing 1.0 stuff obsolete, but the X-wing 2.0 stuff requires an app to actually play properly?!?! That just doesn't feel right for a board game.
Yeah, it's fucked up.. I already paid a lot of money on this game, and then they change it... FUCK THAT SHIT !
I don't think I'll be paying them any more money Tbh... Might look for secondhand 1st edition stuff but that's it. Also when will 3rd edition hit and then 4th?
Pulled my xwing stuff out of storage after about a 2 year break to discover this shitstorm! I'm afraid to update a year into 2nd edition because 3rd edition is likely right around the corner...
Just go online and use squad builder websites. Never touch cardboard again.
I think that would be unlikely, I believe we went about 6 or so years with first edition and we're only a year and a half into second edition, not to mention each faction still has tons of ships that can be added or reprinted(except sequel factions I guess, but time and continued development of the time period will fix that I'm sure).
Someone is selling me the first edition box... Should I buy it
Well if you haven't made the decision yet, i would recommend 2E its a much more refined system
@@Zavakar yeah its too late lol. I got 2 core games and 2 expansions pack (heroes and aces) extremely cheap. Been having a blast with friends.
But who knows if I plan to make the 2.0 jump theres the conversion kits... Though most say 2.0 is a travesty 🤔
I don't know how I missed it, but you just made my day. Did you mean THE OLD REPUBLIC from kotor is getting ships too?
Not that old. Clone Wars era factions at this point - but I suppose KOTOR timeline is possible at some point. If that were to happen, I think it would be in the future after an Old Republic based TV show comes out on Disney's streaming service.
Changed the damage cards? Why!? So I have to spend more money just to get the damage cards. This bs! I play scum and villainy so the core box is useless for me......
Wait, are those actual new bases? Why pegs are so far apart?
P.S.: Nevermind, I see its for new fat and ugly maneuver templates.
Only the medium base is new.
I just didn't realise new maneuver templates are thicker, so pegs on the bases looked too far apart at first.
The pegs are no farther apart than on the old bases.
+Centuros Productions but they are clearly farther apart than bullseye arc, which is the width of the old template... Or am I just crazy?
I don't know what to tell you except that I just put a TIE from the last core set up against a TIE from this core set, and the bumps matched up perfectly. All the old bases still work just fine, which is why conversion kits only come with medium bases.
If they are going crazy with the factions, shouldn't they create multiple different scum factions? I mean, scum is not an united faction. They should basically introduce a new faction for every real scum factions. So, they should make a few different Hutt factions. Basically every headhunter/mercenary should be their own faction. That would be amazing for gameplay, if you really had only like 1 or 2 (unique) ships per faction. Maybe make it more realistic and limit pilots and upgrades for each faction. Why should Han/Chewbacca be allowed to fly their Millenium Falcon with any other upgrades than in the movies? And Luke should only be allowed to fly with R2D2!
Second edition blows!
That looks like a horrible change to turrets.
"Do a barrel roll" really? Well spinning is a good trick...
but is it pod racing?
Is that...is that Chief in terminator armour?
@@fan9775 Yes Bruva it is...
@@26th_Primarch fuck
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Is it MTG all over again??? Can you play 1st edt and 2nd edt together??? Do we need to turn it into a playing format similar to MTGs modern??
Did not convert. I have a lot of ships. Play only with my boys and friends. IMO the second edition is a huge cashgrab.
Jeff goldblum ?? Is that you????
First. Maybe.
2021: FFG Squad Builder still buggy AF
really?!?
@@danacoleman4007 yeeep. Veteran turret gunner forever glitched
@@MasterNeptor geez oh man! why the heck won't they fix it? I just purchased a bunch of stuff to convert from first edition to second edition. I hope I didn't make a mistake...
@@danacoleman4007 nope. Just use other squad builder lol