I'm still on the fence on 2.0. I started collecting X-Wing primarily for the models and didn't play it too often mostly home games. Keep reviewing and thanks.
Apparently if you don't have the upgrade card you can't equip that upgrade on your ship in tournaments which completely defeats the point of an Official App.
TFA. Also Shriv and Iden's daughter (blanking on name) stole a TIE/sf in BF2. In regards to the question, do I need these? No. I already have the Rebel, Imperial and Scum kits. I have a ton of upgrade cards, and do not look forward to more copies of all the generics. But I do want them. More so specifically the First Order as the faction interests me more. At present I have 6 TIE/fo models, 2 TIE/sf, 2 TIE/vn and 1 Upsilon. All around I probably do not need any more models, and at the same time have a suitable collection to play First Order right away, so I definitely want that kit so that I can do so. As for the Resistance... not excited about their currently existing ships. But I also have 4 T-70, 1 YT-1300 (though technically 3 b/c Rebel and Scum ones also), and 1 MG-100... and have zero interest in acquiring more of these models. I am definitely going to pick up the RZ-2 immediately... likely 3 of them. I could probably wait on the Resistance to come later (and supposedly just get the individual card only, no model, expansions that were spoken of...), but what would those cost for the same 4 T-70, 3 YT-1300, and 1 MG-100 I care about that are in the kit. Overall... will just save myself some hassle and take the convenience of getting that all now, upfront. That is how I see it anyways. That said, if anyone needs generic upgrades, I have a ton (especially Juke after two SC's...). xD
Great outlook on the value of these kits!! I’m looking forward to the release of more new ships, but as a diehard TIE fan, I’m all over these first order ships. What do you think about the value of larger tabletop games (I.e. Legion) for two casual players? I see tons of legion players using intricate (and expensive) terrain and 3D maps...are these essential to the overall enjoyment of the game? As a huge Star Wars fan I’d like to get into it, but I’m not sure if it’s quite worth the time and monetary investment. Love the content, keep it up!
I have 4 tiefo and 1 tie sf. All i need to grab is an upsilon shuttle and a silencer. As for Resistance, only missing bombers. Kits will be easy to fill out so i will pick these up eventually
Good point regarding every one of the five (current) factions having a TIE fighter...but, I wonder if the one for the Resistance could be included in the conversion kit in the form of Poe flying a TIE F/O Special Forces...I've always wondered why there isn't a Crew on that in 1.0 since Finn clearly functioned in that role in the second seat, but perhaps there will be a Gunner for it in 2.0. But, if that were included in the Resistance Conversion Kit, that would be worth it even more, I think...! Who knows?
I play at home mostly and like the idea of being able to add more factions into the mix. Im getting both of these and just going to reuse my extra t65s as t70s and tie/ln as tie/fo and tie/sf, etc. Buying from Gamenerdz brought the price down from MSRP as well. By doing it this way and grabbing the other ships from 1.0 sales, it isnt to bad.
In my opinion I think its cool but it seems just Like the Empire and rebellion and there are so few ships for both sides, the resistance and the first order.But its just my opinion
Question from the future. So, I bought the starter force awakens, very cheap, 20 dollars, bought it by accident, thought it was 2.0 dumb of me. But, If I buy some resitance ships like the T70 or a tie fighter of the order, maybe two, can I use the other ships to 2.0 and that way, I have the extra dice and extra stuff, to use with my other starter set?
Yep I do need these because it’s going to be a good while until most of these ships are released in 2.0. I have enough 1.0 ships to justify these conversion kits
Thanks for the info. I have some of TFA core sets, the Resistance Heroes expansion, and an SF Tie - Right now I'm focused on Rebel and Imperial Factions. We'll see what they come out with in the future. I like it, but for me, these are on the back burner for now.
Ferrosphere paint? Call me more than curious on that Tech upgrade (Tallissan Linatra Quick Build at 7:44). Do you think its going to be a damage mitigation or evasion boosting upgrade? Might replace Primed Thrusters for me on Quadjumpers if it is decent enough.
More excited for RZ-2 A-Wing than I am for anything else right now, and L'ulo is an A-Wing pilot from the Poe Dameron comic series. Well worth checking out, lots of cool dogfighting and new First Order and Scum ships, some potential for the First Order ship variants in Armada also.
rose crew takes over control of the ship, crashes you into another friendly ship, and then says you should stop fighting. All the A wings and bombers blow up except one that allows you to turn on gravity and flip the game board to win.
I’m wondering if we’ll get a new black one T-70 with closing s-foils. If so would be cool if the new sculpt included the booster, given the new title seems to add SLAM action
Thanks for posting bro, completely agree with all your points. Personally I am definitely getting the First Order, but waiting on Resistance to see if I really want it. Not much there, but if they give some of those new shield tokens and a few target locks I would probably buy it! :)
The conversion kits don't have evade token as well, I were eager to try a tie swarm and that was stupid way to fail I'm already full of calculate tokens and no evade... FFG is doing poorly
Hey Crabbok, you think they will send additional new tokens to pissed off customers? I noticed the lack of shields and new green tokens after buying 4 new boxes, 3 upgrade sets and core.
I think the fact that you can play straight out the gate has quite a lot to be said for it. Is it worth the price tag? To me it is, I really miss my upsilon!
I do not think that the price is a reasonable or acceptable amount based on the quantity of ships available for the two factions. Unfortunately, the new movies do not provide much as terms of ships for these factions and will make it very difficult to want to fly either one of them. They only worked in 1.0 because of the ability to mix between the older factions to make them overpowered. Poe, Rey/Finn, QD, Kylo. It will be very interesting to see what people will come out with with only being able to use the new ships.
I preorder both kits but i am looking forward more for the first order. Regarding new ships i didn’t get any new tie of the second edition i actually got an blue core set of the v.01 that i get 2 ties fo plus one T70 for the same price of one expansion ship.
They had to offer the opportunity with these 2 but my guess is they won't sell anything like Imps and Rebels. Future waves may only feature non classic factions in order to push the other factions more.
Do you need conversion kits if your just getting started. Maybe I should go to Armada. Can't make up my mind. Any advice as to which one would be greatly appreciated. I really love the big capital ships but Armada is very pricey. Aah! I don't know.
I would say it depends on what you're looking for in a tabletop game. Armada is like chess as where X-Wing is like checkers both have different levels of strategy. Both are good for different reasons. Personally just as I like chest better I like Armada better also it just has more depth.
As much as I enjoy the idea of many different factions I feel like there are some oversights with ships being shared between factions. Take for example the "Clone Wars" faction should well and truly include the ARC-170 and the Auzituck Gunship, but that blends the archetypes for the Clone Wars and Rebel factions. Realistically the Rebels should not get either of those ships to streamline them and provide two unique yet familiar ships for the new faction. The developers have spoken at lengths about maintaining those faction characteristics for this edition and ship sharing could potentially curtail this.
The rebellion kit comes with upgrades for seventeen ships at $50. These come with three or four ships for $30. A lot less value for these. Also these kits will probably come with all the same upgrades as the first three conversion kits. I already have nine copies of heavy laser Canon, I don't need six more. It would have been nice for them to do these kits like the most wanted kit in first edition with a model and ship cards to get the factions started. Or combine these two into one kit and have seven ships in it for thirty bucks.
So here is an Important question. How are they going to do the "Black One" paint scheme with closing S-Foils? I doubt they will release 2 X-Wing expansions at the same time. Will they do a heroes of the resistance box again with the falcon? Maybe something like scum and villainy got ( box with 1 X-Wing and 2 A-Wings ). I really want that model.
Do you think they will release a Core set for Resistance and FO for players who do not want Empire or Rebel? Hopefully they will get enough charge tokens lol.
I hope there's an unboxing on these kits soon, like we got leading up to 2nd eds release with the other kits. I'll probably wind up getting the resistance one regardless though. I really like the look of the new Poe and the t-70 in general, even though we don't really know exactly what it's configuration does yet
I think the new trilogy stuff may be best for those who don't want to buy as many models. I would think that the advanced tech would make the ships more expensive, points-wise.
Possible Rebels Spoilers. Sabine is going to show up in the resistance show with a new custom painted TIE fighter so that that faction can fly a TIE. Haha
I personally like to be able to play all the factions. My go to is Galactic Empire. However I like trying out fun and crazy builds for all the factions! Will definitely pick up the kits.
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Technically, the Resistance already stole a Tie Fighter in TFA.
and in Battlefront 2
if u r talking about Poe and Finn, they stole a Tie/SF
I'm not huge on either sequel faction so I'm okay with them being separate so that I don't have to consider anymore. Bring on Clone Wars factions!
Can't wait for clone wars factions for armada. #hinthint
Didn't the Tie that Poe and Finn used to escape crash on Jakku and then get sucked up into the sands of Jakku?
7 factions may be tough to balance.
That A-Wing looks cool, but... Man.. Poe's gonna be slaying them...
I'm still on the fence on 2.0. I started collecting X-Wing primarily for the models and didn't play it too often mostly home games. Keep reviewing and thanks.
Getting started in 2.0! Looking forward to your future videos and especially bat reps! Thanks for the quality content.
I'm really excited to see how they develop these factions!
Thanks for the info. I'm new on X Wing and I have your videos as a bible for my first steeps :)
I'm honestly more excited for the Clone Wars factions 😆
I can’t wait for C.I.S. faction to see how many points ships will be. I really like the idea of a swarm of vulture droids
I can see the vulture being the first ship they sell in pairs.
Will be grabbing mainly for the generic upgrades but looking forward to the unveiling of these
I agree.. the resistance is very lack luster. First order is very worth it.
As a counter point if you missed the heros of the resistance, the convertion is a cheaper option if you have a falcon and a t-70 from 1.0.
As excited as i am for all the factions that is coming out for this game, i will be sticking with the Rebel faction
I'll DEFINITELY be buying both of these.
I loved both of these conversions. Now all my ships are 2.0. Except for the HUGE ships that are missing 2.0 conversion kits
Apparently if you don't have the upgrade card you can't equip that upgrade on your ship in tournaments which completely defeats the point of an Official App.
The app isn't there to replace the cards, it exists so that the costs can be adjusted as necessary.
I'm a new player and these videos have been great! Thanks for the work you do on them, they are super informative!
TFA. Also Shriv and Iden's daughter (blanking on name) stole a TIE/sf in BF2. In regards to the question, do I need these? No. I already have the Rebel, Imperial and Scum kits. I have a ton of upgrade cards, and do not look forward to more copies of all the generics. But I do want them. More so specifically the First Order as the faction interests me more. At present I have 6 TIE/fo models, 2 TIE/sf, 2 TIE/vn and 1 Upsilon. All around I probably do not need any more models, and at the same time have a suitable collection to play First Order right away, so I definitely want that kit so that I can do so. As for the Resistance... not excited about their currently existing ships. But I also have 4 T-70, 1 YT-1300 (though technically 3 b/c Rebel and Scum ones also), and 1 MG-100... and have zero interest in acquiring more of these models. I am definitely going to pick up the RZ-2 immediately... likely 3 of them. I could probably wait on the Resistance to come later (and supposedly just get the individual card only, no model, expansions that were spoken of...), but what would those cost for the same 4 T-70, 3 YT-1300, and 1 MG-100 I care about that are in the kit. Overall... will just save myself some hassle and take the convenience of getting that all now, upfront. That is how I see it anyways. That said, if anyone needs generic upgrades, I have a ton (especially Juke after two SC's...). xD
Wish these 2 conversion kits were even cheaper than $30 with so few ships to upgrade compared to other factions
I’ll be passing on them because of the budget, and I’m focused on Imperials. But I still enjoy these reviews of their contents!
Need? Not really. Want? Hell yes!
I’m already all in, can’t stop now, gonna get these kits as well.
I'd wait out until more ships get released! You know its all coming for Christmas haha
Great outlook on the value of these kits!! I’m looking forward to the release of more new ships, but as a diehard TIE fan, I’m all over these first order ships.
What do you think about the value of larger tabletop games (I.e. Legion) for two casual players? I see tons of legion players using intricate (and expensive) terrain and 3D maps...are these essential to the overall enjoyment of the game? As a huge Star Wars fan I’d like to get into it, but I’m not sure if it’s quite worth the time and monetary investment. Love the content, keep it up!
cant wait for some CIS in X-Wing and Armada.
I have 4 tiefo and 1 tie sf. All i need to grab is an upsilon shuttle and a silencer. As for Resistance, only missing bombers. Kits will be easy to fill out so i will pick these up eventually
Good point regarding every one of the five (current) factions having a TIE fighter...but, I wonder if the one for the Resistance could be included in the conversion kit in the form of Poe flying a TIE F/O Special Forces...I've always wondered why there isn't a Crew on that in 1.0 since Finn clearly functioned in that role in the second seat, but perhaps there will be a Gunner for it in 2.0. But, if that were included in the Resistance Conversion Kit, that would be worth it even more, I think...! Who knows?
I play at home mostly and like the idea of being able to add more factions into the mix. Im getting both of these and just going to reuse my extra t65s as t70s and tie/ln as tie/fo and tie/sf, etc. Buying from Gamenerdz brought the price down from MSRP as well. By doing it this way and grabbing the other ships from 1.0 sales, it isnt to bad.
I like your honest opinions on all the matters of X-Wing and Legion (sorry can't afford a third game).
In my opinion I think its cool but it seems just Like the Empire and rebellion and there are so few ships for both sides, the resistance and the first order.But its just my opinion
Question from the future. So, I bought the starter force awakens, very cheap, 20 dollars, bought it by accident, thought it was 2.0 dumb of me. But, If I buy some resitance ships like the T70 or a tie fighter of the order, maybe two, can I use the other ships to 2.0 and that way, I have the extra dice and extra stuff, to use with my other starter set?
Great video ! For a new player learning the ropes
Yep I do need these because it’s going to be a good while until most of these ships are released in 2.0. I have enough 1.0 ships to justify these conversion kits
Looking forward to the prequel factions. Can’t wait to fly naboo n1
Thanks for the info. I have some of TFA core sets, the Resistance Heroes expansion, and an SF Tie - Right now I'm focused on Rebel and Imperial Factions. We'll see what they come out with in the future. I like it, but for me, these are on the back burner for now.
Ferrosphere paint? Call me more than curious on that Tech upgrade (Tallissan Linatra Quick Build at 7:44). Do you think its going to be a damage mitigation or evasion boosting upgrade? Might replace Primed Thrusters for me on Quadjumpers if it is decent enough.
I feel like there aren’t enough ships to really start these factions
If you want to spend more money, then no you don't need these. Most people are opposed to throwing money away though.
Definitely worth to buy the conversion kits. I already have 2 YT 1300s. Just buying the conversion kits prevents me from spending $40 for the new one.
Your videos geting me more and more intressted into the game
This definitely moves me closer to joining the 2.0. Thanks for the info!
More excited for RZ-2 A-Wing than I am for anything else right now, and L'ulo is an A-Wing pilot from the Poe Dameron comic series. Well worth checking out, lots of cool dogfighting and new First Order and Scum ships, some potential for the First Order ship variants in Armada also.
love the videos, ive been watching for years, thanks for all the tips and tricks, keep it up much love
Great vid... Still can't believe there are no shield tokens in the empire expansion. Thank goodness for the four tokens in the core........ Lol
Clone wars!!! Cant wait!
Thanks for helping me decide how to get into 2.0, looks like I'm choosing one faction this time around LOL. Great videos.
Probably worth collecting the Resistance for myself. I only have the TIE silencer for the First Order.
So if you are going to start fresh under 2.0, would you suggest starting with the Resistance or First Order versus one of the main factions from 1.0?
rose crew takes over control of the ship, crashes you into another friendly ship, and then says you should stop fighting. All the A wings and bombers blow up except one that allows you to turn on gravity and flip the game board to win.
This is a timely video! I've been considering these conversion kits, but wondered if they were worth it.
I’m wondering if we’ll get a new black one T-70 with closing s-foils. If so would be cool if the new sculpt included the booster, given the new title seems to add SLAM action
Thanks for posting bro, completely agree with all your points. Personally I am definitely getting the First Order, but waiting on Resistance to see if I really want it. Not much there, but if they give some of those new shield tokens and a few target locks I would probably buy it! :)
The conversion kits don't have evade token as well, I were eager to try a tie swarm and that was stupid way to fail I'm already full of calculate tokens and no evade... FFG is doing poorly
Will the conversion kit include the same A-wing cards as found in the RZ-2 expansion?
Im just sitting at two starter kits, not sure if i should just sell them and get a 2.0-set instead...
Hey Crabbok, you think they will send additional new tokens to pissed off customers? I noticed the lack of shields and new green tokens after buying 4 new boxes, 3 upgrade sets and core.
I think the fact that you can play straight out the gate has quite a lot to be said for it. Is it worth the price tag? To me it is, I really miss my upsilon!
I do...considering that I bought in using mainly Resistance and First Order ships...and Second Edition was announced before I could get into the game.
There are only a few resistance/ first order ships, but it's still rough to have to rebuy ships. It's nice that they're cheaper.
I do not think that the price is a reasonable or acceptable amount based on the quantity of ships available for the two factions. Unfortunately, the new movies do not provide much as terms of ships for these factions and will make it very difficult to want to fly either one of them. They only worked in 1.0 because of the ability to mix between the older factions to make them overpowered. Poe, Rey/Finn, QD, Kylo. It will be very interesting to see what people will come out with with only being able to use the new ships.
Great vid, I don’t have many FO or Resistance ships so I’ll probably just buy those new. Thanks for the update and the breakdown.
I like this new stuff, but i think I'll wait until clone wars to see about possibly jumping in
I had to drop scum, first order, and resistance it's really getting to be too much. Especially not converting much on these 2 kits
If you get the 2.0 core set will you still need the conversation kits?
The force is strong with this one.
I preorder both kits but i am looking forward more for the first order. Regarding new ships i didn’t get any new tie of the second edition i actually got an blue core set of the v.01 that i get 2 ties fo plus one T70 for the same price of one expansion ship.
They had to offer the opportunity with these 2 but my guess is they won't sell anything like Imps and Rebels. Future waves may only feature non classic factions in order to push the other factions more.
Definetly getting these. I'm going to be a Resistance/rebel/ scum, and my brother is empire/ first order. So it's worth it for us.
Do you need conversion kits if your just getting started. Maybe I should go to Armada. Can't make up my mind. Any advice as to which one would be greatly appreciated. I really love the big capital ships but Armada is very pricey. Aah! I don't know.
I would say it depends on what you're looking for in a tabletop game. Armada is like chess as where X-Wing is like checkers both have different levels of strategy. Both are good for different reasons. Personally just as I like chest better I like Armada better also it just has more depth.
As much as I enjoy the idea of many different factions I feel like there are some oversights with ships being shared between factions.
Take for example the "Clone Wars" faction should well and truly include the ARC-170 and the Auzituck Gunship, but that blends the archetypes for the Clone Wars and Rebel factions. Realistically the Rebels should not get either of those ships to streamline them and provide two unique yet familiar ships for the new faction.
The developers have spoken at lengths about maintaining those faction characteristics for this edition and ship sharing could potentially curtail this.
The rebellion kit comes with upgrades for seventeen ships at $50. These come with three or four ships for $30. A lot less value for these.
Also these kits will probably come with all the same upgrades as the first three conversion kits. I already have nine copies of heavy laser Canon, I don't need six more.
It would have been nice for them to do these kits like the most wanted kit in first edition with a model and ship cards to get the factions started.
Or combine these two into one kit and have seven ships in it for thirty bucks.
So here is an Important question. How are they going to do the "Black One" paint scheme with closing S-Foils? I doubt they will release 2 X-Wing expansions at the same time. Will they do a heroes of the resistance box again with the falcon? Maybe something like scum and villainy got ( box with 1 X-Wing and 2 A-Wings ). I really want that model.
I think I saw Saw's Renegades is coming out with a 2.0 version so hopefully that applies to other releases like the Force Awakens set.
I don't think they'll do it. I think they'll leave it up to players to pick up the 1.0 Heroes of the Resistance packs if they want that color scheme.
Do you think they will release a Core set for Resistance and FO for players who do not want Empire or Rebel? Hopefully they will get enough charge tokens lol.
I hope there's an unboxing on these kits soon, like we got leading up to 2nd eds release with the other kits. I'll probably wind up getting the resistance one regardless though. I really like the look of the new Poe and the t-70 in general, even though we don't really know exactly what it's configuration does yet
I might have preferred these as a combined kit, just because it doesn’t feel like a particularly good value at 30 for either.
Can’t wait to see what you get with these. As I have some ships for them
Do you know if There will be an upgrade to 2.0 for huge ship
I just hope the FO ties get access to some more support ships to swarm effectively.
I'm just looking for a Resistance Bomber so that I can fly some Resistance fun. I will need those flappy wings, though...
I’m a big fan of the Resistance ships, so I already have multiple models and would rather be able to play most of them right off the bat.
Is there a component list yet for the kits?
multiple factions is awesome; thanks for this
I think the new trilogy stuff may be best for those who don't want to buy as many models. I would think that the advanced tech would make the ships more expensive, points-wise.
Possible Rebels Spoilers.
Sabine is going to show up in the resistance show with a new custom painted TIE fighter so that that faction can fly a TIE. Haha
Preorder and paid for both..... #7factions, can't wait!
Do you think they'll put out a new Resistance/First Order core set? And maybe a Republic/CIS one later?
Very thorough. Great video!
Great video I have a question which faction do you mostly play as
I'll probably end up getting them. Is it worth it? I don't know, but will still probably do it.
I really want to see all these factions come to the other games too.
My first question when I bought my core set was "is Talli Lintra available in another expansion?"
I personally like to be able to play all the factions. My go to is Galactic Empire. However I like trying out fun and crazy builds for all the factions! Will definitely pick up the kits.
The sad thing is that these have so little diffrence in ships that you will see close to the same build I think for this until they add alot more.
I wanna get the First Order...but I don't think I should...thanks for the video, though!! Keep it up, for Xwing, I mean.
Is there a content list or leaked list yet?
I'm just getting into this game but I think I like armada better because of the larger ships
Looking forward to seeing more 2.0 battle reports. Also hugely looking forward to the SSD!!