Here are some stats - Spurs has the highest Goals scored in the EPL so far. Their GD is 4th on the table. Their top scorer is Madds with 8 of the 39 goals scored - Salah has 15 out of 37. They aren't relying on a winning player but on an attacking team. Previous to this defeat to league leader - their biggest loss was 1 goal down. & they still manage to score 3 goals against Pools. They have a depleted team with 10 men out. I think Ange is doing well with what he has. Are you not entertained?
Spurs are not going anywhere with the way they play. Scored 3 but still lost by SIX. You can't be losing if you score 3 in a match and definely not by 6. Liverpool could've scored 10 in the first half alone. A disastrous home performance. Depleted? Then plan & play better. You can't just play the same high press when you know you can't do it. Liverpool were too kind in this match. Tbh I prefer to watch Bournmouth, Brighton or Forest play even when depleted, they adopt smarter diciplined tactics. Spurs are enjoyable but consistently chaotic. The problem in this game was the midfield which all were the experienced first team choice with Son, Mads, Kulusveski & Bassoma. They were bystanders for the majority of this game.
No he will stick to his principles and tactics and will ignore critic's and non believing fans he lives by the sword and die by the sword a man of integrity.
@ a very good point but missing your two central defenders and Bentancur makes it really difficult. Spurs are relying on cup competitions to actually win a trophy
Liverpool beat anyone 6-3 -> lfc let too many in and the other team lack quality Spurs lose to anyone -> Ange's tactics are in question Why is the narrative around Ange that his tactics are flawed and everyone else lacks quality or its injury? Is it that most pundits are sheep?
But.......Ange could adapt knowing his players are tired. "Ahh mate, yeah mate, my players are bloody knackered mate, injuries....." So stop making players play like a fifa team and give them a break.
@@TheCurrykievthat’s a fair point and think with sone changes could’ve made top 4 last year - but he wants more than that and building long term so he’s finding out who can handle his training and the pressure from Playing so many games and will replace those who can’t and/ strengthen in depth those positions and in long run have a squad that San plus his way
Can you imagine Liverpool missing Alison, Van dijk, Konate, Alexander-Arnold, and 6 other first team players and having to utilize the same starting 11 every other 3 days? Levy must just give Ange proper tools, and then we can judge him based on that.
People do not understand that Ange is setting us up mentally for the future - it is not about the here and now - we need to change our culture, and he is installing a winning mentality. It is a work in progress, and results will be like this. In the future, I think he will adapt, but for now, he has an objective to achieve, and we are on a good path - why can't people see this rather than slack him game after game......back the manager, he is the best thing about Spurs for a very long time!!
@@carlosrenkin6953 While it's frustrating to see Spurs get hammered by 6 goals, it's important to understand Ange's long-term vision. He's focused on building a strong, winning mentality and a sustainable future for the club, which involves changing the team's culture and approach. This process takes time and patience, and while immediate tactical adjustments are expected, the broader goal is to create a team that can consistently perform at a high level.
Spot on with the midfield cover. First 4 goals were tap ins because Bissouma and Sarr were not tracking the runners. All preventable. Especially culpable was Bissouma.
It's a weird narrative going around that "Ange has no Plan B", which is clearly ridiculous because all managers have different tactics depending on what's happening, but then when the "pundits" analyse what they saw in the match, they only seem to talk about the players failing to perform rather than clear tactical errors from the coach. "Why did Liverpool run 6 past Spurs" - is it because the manager went in with a bad plan? Should he have parked the bus more and countered? No that's not what the commentators say, they say the backline is full of kids and the midfielders are too lazy or unaware to track back in support so Spurs are disjointed when Liverpool, arguably best counter attack in the League, take possession and stream forward. Do Spurs win trying to crowd their box and play counter against Liverpool? Doubt it. If you score 3 you should have high hopes of not conceding 3, so clearly the defenders were comprehensively outplayed.
The narrative about the club forcing Marcus out, is based on no evidence at all. No way Rubin puts Rashford out of the team on order from the leadership. Ruben said it's about performance in the training and games, and yes we all have seen his lack of effort. Rashford have gone to the media himself instead of trying to follow Ruben's demand. So the Rashford defenders have vert weak arguments.
Good commentary except the bit about saying Sarr and Bissouma don’t sense danger or make tackles. They have been run into the ground and played a lot of mins in our previous two games - Utd on Thursday. This was a symptom of fatigue, injuries and lack of ability to rotate. Not a time to judge whether the players can make a tackle. Sarr is one of the leagues best at covering ground and winning the ball back. Get your analysts to do a bit more research before drawing lazy conclusions that are factually incorrect.
Tottenham Hotspur's prolonged trophy drought can be significantly attributed to the negativity surrounding its fanbase. Many supporters are quick to criticize players, management, and Daniel Levy, creating a toxic environment that hinders performance and deters potential signings. This impatience leads to frequent managerial changes, often dismissing great managers like José Mourinho, Antonio Conte, and now Ange Postecoglou after only 18 months or so, preventing the establishment of a consistent philosophy necessary for success. When results decline, protests against Levy emerge, demoralizing the squad and fostering division. While fans may rally behind the team during winning streaks, the atmosphere shifts to hostility during tough times, creating insecurity among players. Additionally, the negative media environment, fueled by vloggers and social media, amplifies grievances and perpetuates a cycle of despair. After the successes of renowned managers, it’s clear that the issue lies not with them but with the fans and the negativity surrounding the club. Until the fanbase can cultivate a more supportive and constructive atmosphere, Tottenham will struggle to attract top talent and build a sustainable path to success. Unity and positivity are essential for breaking free from this cycle of disappointment.
No his players need to adapt to Ange's gameplan and execute it better. The loss is the fault of the players for not playing Ange's gameplan correctly. The players need to change and do better 😂
Undeserving Spurs fan. As a famous man once said, "Come on lads, it's only Tottenham!" What do you expect to this supercilious team? They'll always be pushing/hoping for Europe, but they will never be champions.
Angeball will not work. Spurs had many injuries due to his style of football and lack of rotation. We are talking about injury but Reguilon haven't play a game this season.
The club is finished. There are Spurs fans who have actually admitted that they’d rather the team lose 6-3 than win 1-0 or 2-1. This is why Spurs will never win anything again. It all comes from the fans. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Take salah out the others step up. What's he talking about 😂 paid for nothing. Look at Liverpool record without salah. Sky sports pundits are the dumbest and least qualified to talk on football. Embarrassing
He needs to go...players are shot with this foolish school yard tactics. Archie Gray with no cover as centre back ,full backs gone awol..what the hell is ange at.?
What is going on with the media he’s pulling the wool over your eyes they got smashed off Chelsea and Liverpool at home just conceded 6. You can’t play flying forward football be mid table and get beat like this and it be ok it’s shocking plus his attitude stinks now it’s only going to get worse
Bissouma is a joke! He cannot run and he cannot pass. How he managed to get into the starting 11 ahead of Giovanni Lo Celso I will never understand. Also, Dragusin is another liability who keeps losing his man and caught out of position. Sergio Regullion or Ben Davies would've done a better job at centre-back than Dragusin.
Did Pep Guardiola need to adapt his football philosophy following the 2016-2017 Premier League season after Chelsea wins, as his style of play does not work in England?
Pep said he was always learning coming up against Klopp. You can see the ingame management with the iPad and advisor tweaking the approach after conceding a goal.
@@rugbyanalyst1 You can have the same style but make tweaks and adjustments and react to other managers tactics. Doesn’t mean huge changes to your style or philosophy.
How about you get some journalist with skills? Oh wait, there is no way Rupert corp will allow competence in the door, look at Jessica Tarlov Rupert will avoid employing another one this century!
As an Arsenal I say keep him plus who you going to get Graham Potter or some whiz kid from Belgian pro league. You ain’t getting Simone Ingahzi from Inter Milan who is the best manager in Europe after the Atlanta guy in terms of management with the resources you have available.
Half the fans are an Ange fan boy cult and in total denial, many of them cannot bring themselves to admit that Ange is now working at a MUCH higher level. Ange and his staff are now finding out just how how high that level is. Clearly Ange is not that bothered about defending and operates a system that means we will score than you mate ! not convinced that it will work in this league.
These guys are clueless, it u take Salah out the team, my my what about the rest of the league, what if palmer was taken out of Chelsea team lol see where I’m going with this such a pointless thing to say from a nobody
Ange seems to think he can play like he did at Celtic in the EPL. You can't. That's like thinking you can run a fortune 500 company cause you managed a super market. Completely out of his depth.
Should Conte have done the same?. Shouldn't spurs have sacked Nuno ? Should Poch have won the UCL,? We'll never know..😅 the answer is blowing in the wind at white hart lane😂
Here are some stats - Spurs has the highest Goals scored in the EPL so far. Their GD is 4th on the table. Their top scorer is Madds with 8 of the 39 goals scored - Salah has 15 out of 37. They aren't relying on a winning player but on an attacking team. Previous to this defeat to league leader - their biggest loss was 1 goal down. & they still manage to score 3 goals against Pools. They have a depleted team with 10 men out. I think Ange is doing well with what he has. Are you not entertained?
Spurs are not going anywhere with the way they play. Scored 3 but still lost by SIX. You can't be losing if you score 3 in a match and definely not by 6. Liverpool could've scored 10 in the first half alone. A disastrous home performance. Depleted? Then plan & play better. You can't just play the same high press when you know you can't do it. Liverpool were too kind in this match. Tbh I prefer to watch Bournmouth, Brighton or Forest play even when depleted, they adopt smarter diciplined tactics. Spurs are enjoyable but consistently chaotic. The problem in this game was the midfield which all were the experienced first team choice with Son, Mads, Kulusveski & Bassoma. They were bystanders for the majority of this game.
@@aldon1281 Nobody is asking you to watch them - Just don't whinge.
As a celtic fan all ange needs is a squad that can adapt to his philosophy, spurs need to spend money on defender's
Why the media keep pushing this narrative about Ange, what is wrong with y'all there? it so obvious now.
No he will stick to his principles and tactics and will ignore critic's and non believing fans he lives by the sword and die by the sword a man of integrity.
A man with no plan b. The best manager in Australia😂
A man who can't adapt. Wow how impressive.
Spurs are absolutely adorable e as usual
Does he want to and is he capable is the right question.
With all his players back and against poorer opposition than Liverpool, Ange will win plenty of games
Tottenham problem enjry that is why for riverpool esay
When? We're halfway through the season and his team is in the bottom half of the table. They were expected to challenge for top 4...
@ a very good point but missing your two central defenders and Bentancur makes it really difficult. Spurs are relying on cup competitions to actually win a trophy
Deluded 😂😂
@ Would you sack Postecoglu?
Liverpool beat anyone 6-3 -> lfc let too many in and the other team lack quality
Spurs lose to anyone -> Ange's tactics are in question
Why is the narrative around Ange that his tactics are flawed and everyone else lacks quality or its injury? Is it that most pundits are sheep?
@skully5473 Yes, most pundits are sheep
All the players injured are out with thigh injuries. These are injuries you created yourself because of your style if play.
That's the one mate
Okay genius
Why didn't Celtic have these problems?
@@jasonevans4291 because Celtic are in a mickey mouse league where snails would move quicker
@@jasonevans4291 son, don't embarrass yourself.
@Darrel-l7s Yokohama, Brisbane Roar ,Australian National team or
Maybe it's just Tottenham' poor recruiting
Guys stop making noise in the background.
These players were tired. What do you expect? These so called pundits are stealing a living, honestly.
Or have never managed in their career carragher etc less said about neville the better
But.......Ange could adapt knowing his players are tired.
"Ahh mate, yeah mate, my players are bloody knackered mate, injuries....."
So stop making players play like a fifa team and give them a break.
@@TheCurrykievthat’s a fair point and think with sone changes could’ve made top 4 last year - but he wants more than that and building long term so he’s finding out who can handle his training and the pressure from Playing so many games and will replace those who can’t and/ strengthen in depth those positions and in long run have a squad that San plus his way
Players tired before Xmas 🎄🎄😂
Sounds like a kindergarten class.
Oh Spurs you never fail to amuse amuse. You're absolutely adorable
Can you imagine Liverpool missing Alison, Van dijk, Konate, Alexander-Arnold, and 6 other first team players and having to utilize the same starting 11 every other 3 days? Levy must just give Ange proper tools, and then we can judge him based on that.
People do not understand that Ange is setting us up mentally for the future - it is not about the here and now - we need to change our culture, and he is installing a winning mentality. It is a work in progress, and results will be like this. In the future, I think he will adapt, but for now, he has an objective to achieve, and we are on a good path - why can't people see this rather than slack him game after game......back the manager, he is the best thing about Spurs for a very long time!!
Absolutely this
holding 6 at home is unacceptable for a 'big 6 club', Ange should still be able to change tactics regardless of his vision for the future
@@carlosrenkin6953 While it's frustrating to see Spurs get hammered by 6 goals, it's important to understand Ange's long-term vision. He's focused on building a strong, winning mentality and a sustainable future for the club, which involves changing the team's culture and approach. This process takes time and patience, and while immediate tactical adjustments are expected, the broader goal is to create a team that can consistently perform at a high level.
Spot on with the midfield cover. First 4 goals were tap ins because Bissouma and Sarr were not tracking the runners. All preventable. Especially culpable was Bissouma.
"Thus who we are, mate."🤪
It's a weird narrative going around that "Ange has no Plan B", which is clearly ridiculous because all managers have different tactics depending on what's happening, but then when the "pundits" analyse what they saw in the match, they only seem to talk about the players failing to perform rather than clear tactical errors from the coach.
"Why did Liverpool run 6 past Spurs" - is it because the manager went in with a bad plan? Should he have parked the bus more and countered? No that's not what the commentators say, they say the backline is full of kids and the midfielders are too lazy or unaware to track back in support so Spurs are disjointed when Liverpool, arguably best counter attack in the League, take possession and stream forward. Do Spurs win trying to crowd their box and play counter against Liverpool? Doubt it. If you score 3 you should have high hopes of not conceding 3, so clearly the defenders were comprehensively outplayed.
The narrative about the club forcing Marcus out, is based on no evidence at all. No way Rubin puts Rashford out of the team on order from the leadership. Ruben said it's about performance in the training and games, and yes we all have seen his lack of effort. Rashford have gone to the media himself instead of trying to follow Ruben's demand. So the Rashford defenders have vert weak arguments.
Good commentary except the bit about saying Sarr and Bissouma don’t sense danger or make tackles. They have been run into the ground and played a lot of mins in our previous two games - Utd on Thursday. This was a symptom of fatigue, injuries and lack of ability to rotate. Not a time to judge whether the players can make a tackle. Sarr is one of the leagues best at covering ground and winning the ball back. Get your analysts to do a bit more research before drawing lazy conclusions that are factually incorrect.
"They're a better team with him (salah) in it aren't they" - dear oh dear..🙄
Spurs was just that poor,they made the game looked easy for Liverpoolfc.
Liverpool are a better side with Salah in?! Are they?! Thank god for pundits, we’d never have figured that out!!
The man with the glasses who is not the host whats his name???
How did the Spuds half a team put 3 past amazing Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur's prolonged trophy drought can be significantly attributed to the negativity surrounding its fanbase. Many supporters are quick to criticize players, management, and Daniel Levy, creating a toxic environment that hinders performance and deters potential signings. This impatience leads to frequent managerial changes, often dismissing great managers like José Mourinho, Antonio Conte, and now Ange Postecoglou after only 18 months or so, preventing the establishment of a consistent philosophy necessary for success.
When results decline, protests against Levy emerge, demoralizing the squad and fostering division. While fans may rally behind the team during winning streaks, the atmosphere shifts to hostility during tough times, creating insecurity among players. Additionally, the negative media environment, fueled by vloggers and social media, amplifies grievances and perpetuates a cycle of despair.
After the successes of renowned managers, it’s clear that the issue lies not with them but with the fans and the negativity surrounding the club. Until the fanbase can cultivate a more supportive and constructive atmosphere, Tottenham will struggle to attract top talent and build a sustainable path to success. Unity and positivity are essential for breaking free from this cycle of disappointment.
No his players need to adapt to Ange's gameplan and execute it better. The loss is the fault of the players for not playing Ange's gameplan correctly. The players need to change and do better 😂
Sue, what can tottenham do to be better?
Undeserving Spurs fan. As a famous man once said, "Come on lads, it's only Tottenham!"
What do you expect to this supercilious team? They'll always be pushing/hoping for Europe, but they will never be champions.
Angeball will not work. Spurs had many injuries due to his style of football and lack of rotation. We are talking about injury but Reguilon haven't play a game this season.
Ange is a big time gambler.
These analysts are just embarrassing themselves with their punditry.
Spurs seems like a work in progress atm.
He needs to back to Glasgow and manage...Clyde
Ange's got to go I tell you.
It's fuckin obvious, his goalie can't play out from the back so passing out from the back is defo not on and I ain't got no coaching badges
Liverpool have not suffered with mass injuries to date,lets see when that happens if they can keep it going.
Except for Alisson, Trent, Robbo, Konate, Jota, Tsimikas earlier this season
Ange must never change his coaching style. Because we want to be entertained. YNWA 😂
How many trophies did Spurs win with "pragmatic" managers in Poch, Conte & Mourinho again?
And how may trophies have they won now with their new manager?
@@SkatePvP10they will 100% not win anything now.
@@thanksgivingdludla3445 and they 100% haven't won anything before
@@SkatePvP10 🤣🤣🤣🤣Okay so before and after they don't win, what now
@@thanksgivingdludla3445 what do you mean what now, they lose.
The reason why Spurs are going through a tough time is because they are in Europe and because of injuries
I think we are well past 'does he need to change' and are deep into 'Ange is a one trick pony' teritory with a man who is not able to change.
How much longer does Ange have at Spurs? 💭
The club is finished. There are Spurs fans who have actually admitted that they’d rather the team lose 6-3 than win 1-0 or 2-1. This is why Spurs will never win anything again. It all comes from the fans. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He just wants to win everything mate
If his excuse is hes suffering threw injurys,then he has to adapt,he cant ask players to play outside there comfort zone and skillset ffs.
Take salah out the others step up. What's he talking about 😂 paid for nothing. Look at Liverpool record without salah. Sky sports pundits are the dumbest and least qualified to talk on football. Embarrassing
Spurs main goalkeeper and their 2 starting centre backs arent out injured though huh? Oh ok 👍
we need a liverpool player can go to Real madrid
Yes
He needs to go...players are shot with this foolish school yard tactics. Archie Gray with no cover as centre back ,full backs gone awol..what the hell is ange at.?
He will get the sack by the end of the season if he doesn't win a trophy and continues to play as Tottenham do.
Seems like cool dude
He wont.
No.
What is going on with the media he’s pulling the wool over your eyes they got smashed off Chelsea and Liverpool at home just conceded 6. You can’t play flying forward football be mid table and get beat like this and it be ok it’s shocking plus his attitude stinks now it’s only going to get worse
To keeps his mouth shut & his plares not to say anthony to opposition ?
Bissouma is a joke! He cannot run and he cannot pass. How he managed to get into the starting 11 ahead of Giovanni Lo Celso I will never understand. Also, Dragusin is another liability who keeps losing his man and caught out of position. Sergio Regullion or Ben Davies would've done a better job at centre-back than Dragusin.
Did Pep Guardiola need to adapt his football philosophy following the 2016-2017 Premier League season after Chelsea wins, as his style of play does not work in England?
Ange is no Pep.
@@taylorrusso5290 Not the point, don't have to be Pep to have your own principles of play and believe in it.
Pep said he was always learning coming up against Klopp. You can see the ingame management with the iPad and advisor tweaking the approach after conceding a goal.
@@rocket8796 Every manager should learn from different opponents, but their idea of football shouldn't change. All teams do that these days.
@@rugbyanalyst1 You can have the same style but make tweaks and adjustments and react to other managers tactics. Doesn’t mean huge changes to your style or philosophy.
No
So if liverpool put 7 players out then they would struggle?
Did you see Liverpool's lineup when they beat Barcelona 4 nil.
Your little club is always adorable
@@seltonk5136 Brother im a Liverpool fan 😅 im taking the piss out of this guy making excuses for the Spuds
Let’s just say it. Spurs were very poor.
His sacking is inevitable, he's out of his depth and 1 dimensional. Last night was yet another humiliation. As fans, we've had enough
We sacked poch, mourinho, conte and nuno. What do you propose after this if you wanted the club to go down that route?
@@chirpywiggins5796 He's not out of his depth. He's been let down by Levy and Lange buying kids when he clearly needs ready-made ballers.
How about you get some journalist with skills? Oh wait, there is no way Rupert corp will allow competence in the door, look at Jessica Tarlov Rupert will avoid employing another one this century!
It’s time to sack Ange.
As an Arsenal I say keep him plus who you going to get Graham Potter or some whiz kid from Belgian pro league. You ain’t getting Simone Ingahzi from Inter Milan who is the best manager in Europe after the Atlanta guy in terms of management with the resources you have available.
No
Nothing just seems to be working at Spurs that's for a fact
Half the fans are an Ange fan boy cult and in total denial, many of them cannot bring themselves to admit that Ange is now working at a MUCH higher level. Ange and his staff are now finding out just how how high that level is. Clearly Ange is not that bothered about defending and operates a system that means we will score than you mate ! not convinced that it will work in this league.
who ever says ange is a good fit isn't a tottenham supporter or hasn't been for long or is australian and watches cricket.
These guys are clueless, it u take Salah out the team, my my what about the rest of the league, what if palmer was taken out of Chelsea team lol see where I’m going with this such a pointless thing to say from a nobody
How is this even a question? Of course he needs to change his philosophy. But as an Arsenal fan long may may it continue.
Nah, let them knock out Liverpool in the Carabao Cup first, then lose to Arsenal in the grand final 😅
No hopefully he will take spurs down no one will miss em.😂😂
Ange seems to think he can play like he did at Celtic in the EPL. You can't. That's like thinking you can run a fortune 500 company cause you managed a super market. Completely out of his depth.
Tottenham defence is worse than "3td Tier clubs..... Spurs "have the will of a little girl
They all have the mindset of an amateur players
You're clearly clueless 🤣
Should Conte have done the same?. Shouldn't spurs have sacked Nuno ? Should Poch have won the UCL,? We'll never know..😅 the answer is blowing in the wind at white hart lane😂
Liverpool will not win league.i feel Arsenal or Chelsea will top it
It good you feel😂
Your feelings wouldn't add you a point
A comment based on no facts whatsoever, even when the stats say otherwise. Your opinion is based on hope not facts.
@MadLFC reds defense can be breached anytime.chelsea&Arsenal have good defense&attacking players...just watch
@@prabirchatterjee619 Good luck with that. I'll come looking for you at the end of the season.
He should be sacked
What are these women doing talking about men's football when they've not played the game.