Colorado 4x4 Rescue and Recovery - Rolled Xterra - Warden Gulch (Keystone, CO)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Sunday October 4th two teams spent the day at the very end of Warden Gulch Trail east of Keystone recovering a Xterra that rolled approximately 6 times off the trail.
This was an extremely complicated pull. Due to the steep terrain and instability of the shelf road above the vehicle, the safest route to winch was just over 150 yards north to a wide stable flat spot. While we prefer to always stay on the trail, safety had to preside on this one and we took a handful of vehicles approximately 100 feet off trail to minimize further risk of injury to any of the team members.
Team 1 arrived first and began assessing the pull, reseating beads on the driver side tires, and working to pull the vehicle down the boulder field and back up the final hill to the trail.
Once up the hill, Team 2 took over rigging the vehicle for transport down to pavement where a tow truck could be arranged by the vehicle owner.
This operation was just shy of 12,000 feet in elevation, and took 8 solid hours of rigging lines and winching to get it on the trail, as well as an additional 90 minutes to dead tow it off the mountain. Outstanding teamwork by both teams pushing through an extremely tiring day at elevation to make this a success!
A couple max tracks would really help hehe
The winch motor sounds like it is on the last days of living.
If it was a Warn winch, they are generally rebuildable
@@gregparrott (Sounds more like a WORN winch to me...) :P
Nahhhh it just needed a break. She was workin Hard.
Hey look at all those little rocks down there... wait thats an xterra not a rock!?
You all are really good people. Everyone will need help at some point in life, thanks for being there. I actually am impressed with how well the Xterra held up to rolling six times?
Extarra's are great suvs
Great story. Some of the narration was very good. This video is too long and needs better editing . The time laps was good. A real map inserted into the video would give the viewer a prospective of the location.
on my personal videos they are long on purpose. you can always fast forward through. the official org videos are much shorter.
37:25 Me: “Hey, look out, the Jeep’s gonna hit that big rock!”
Jeep: “What rock?”
You guys could do with a milwaukee sds battery drill and an impact gun. You could drill holes in the rock and set anchors to move them out of the way of vehicles like when you were fighting the rocks around the 16:27 mark
extremely interesting suggestion there... i like that.
Sounds like once you busted out the weed whacker, this recovery went a lot quicker....
Should have just used a Yankum. Just kidding. Great recovery
Great job, keeping the backcountry clean, and just as important you didn't add any more scratches LOL
Is this a Gov. Or County Job. Looks to me like a built jeep could wheel right over there and drag that thing out. But to preserve the ROCK Field that is not an option? SMH.
Going off trail is illegal in Colorado, we asked USFS and were denied. Nice keyboard warrioring though! It's easy to armchair quarterback an op you were not on.
LMFAO I’d love to be the insurance claims adjuster on that one. You all earned it that day, including the winch which sounded like it’s worm gear took a dump.
Just walking up and down that embankment 10 times with equipment, and you’ve done your workout for the week. Like you, I also priced out the 600ft coil of line, and that stuff is expenSIVE.
Did people survive that fall? That shelf looked really sketchy!! Great job.
indeed they did! they were back onsite with us for the recovery.
Lmao. That winch needs to replaced now. You worked the hell out of it. You should of pulled it with the truck as soon as it passes the big rocks. Anyone have a spare $3k for a new 16k winch?
they could of yanked it with the boulders with that wreck chain around the windshield chain up the three trucks and give it hell the boulders will roll right out the way its pretty safe as long as no one hangs out at the cable
I had to pull a 500 ft winch up mtn to recover a boat n trailer off glenn highway here in alaska .I was dang near muscle failure by time i was done resigning the extensions lol
Poor car. I'd love to be born into these 4wd west coast families like you guys
We're 10' short.......meh we have enough shackles to make it up 🤣 Nice job to all involved with operation 👌
Bet the x still runs , ha , they are tough rigs
Id LOVE to come out there to go Jeepin. Looks Absoulty Amazing and Beautiful...It Truly is Gods Counrty. Happy Jeepin from Butler Pennsylvania The Birth Place of the Jeep. Remeber the XJ is the Best J and Wranglers are For Cheerleaders.
Just needs a new windshield, maybe fix the tail light and some touch up paint.
To be honest, I've seen people drive cars in worse shape. Yes, worse shape than that. A pickup with most of the cab cut off, missing doors, a cracked up dash, caved in hood, missing a front fender, the list goes on for awhile. I wish it was the only one but I've seen several.
I hear ya but I bet their car payment is lower than my new Jeep payment!
Gives the term
Full Pull
A whole new meaning
That was once a really nice X. Looks more like a Jeep now that it's all fuglied up :)
I was wondering the other day why I never see Xterra’s in overlanding videos. I watch two of yours in a row and both had Xterras. Maybe that answers my questions.
Great recovery. I’m guess by the way you all operate that there are some military backgrounds involved.
Great job
I was just up there in my Gladiator a couple of weeks ago. Wouldn’t have even thought of driving up that far. Stopped where you guys parked the trucks. Crazy.
Wise choice
Why not leave it there and just take pictures for the insurance company?
@@okfuskee Why not, there are wrecked cars all over in remote areas?
Craigslist: "Used Exterra, only driven on Sunday, garaged. Few door dings from the supermarket"
LOL that's a good one right there.
You forgot "good tires, custom roof work, no flood damage"
“No low-balling, I know what I have.”
What a waste of a nice Xterra.
IKR I love xterras I have a 01'
Beautiful territory. Glad you guys can get these wrecks out of the mountains. Hope the people are ok.
They were ok and onsite with us for the recovery
I think the guy with the Superduty was using his foot to rev the truck while winching. Ford has a pin in the PCM that can be grounded which will then keep your engine rpms elevated. They also have another pin that if grounded maintains battery voltage by increasing the engine speed. There are instructions and diagrams on which wire does what. These are part of the upfitter sheets that go to companies which convert these trucks into other units. These are always hooked up on tow trucks, ambulances, and things like that. A toggle switch and some wire can save the operator of that truck from footing the throttle all the time. Just a suggestion. Great video.
Always interesting to watch how these recoveries are rigged. Another great recovery.
this was certainly one of the most complicated of the year here. there's been probably 3 in total now about this difficult.
As an xterra owner, that hurt me to watch. Glad everyone was OK.
this isnt going anywhere wish had dollar every time i heard that, famous last words
Interesting video. While unlikely to work, was a check done to see if the engine could be fired up long enough to try and drive it out of the rocks?
Battery ejected itself and the oil pan was punctured
wheres the go pro footage,,how has it still got wheels,,strait.?.
play stupid games, win stupid prizes. O.o
for sale,,slightly used xterra,,trail ready..
A really interesting video. Thanks
Thanks for recording and thanks for posting.
Whoa! What a video! Glad they will be ok!
Looks to me like you guys aren't to careful about scratching the poor car!! :-)
Thanks again man, always a great adventure.
Them seem like a good set of wheels and tires
Great video as always Justin. Also awesome recovery. Thanks for sharing!
It was a picture perfect day to be above tree line!
12k foot elevation? Darn that’s a massive workout!
It's hard on you for sure
23:50,winch the rock away.
How do you bring it down the mountain then ? Somebody brought a trailer to put the car on ?
Drag it out by force
Why was it necessary to air down, looked like a fairly normal gravel road?
The climb up though the trees wasn't totally videoed, but there was some technical spots, and airing down keeps you from popping tires and bouncing teeth out of your head lol
thats one messed up jeep
Dang! This xterra driver should replace the winch that cleaned up his mess! As well as buy all these guys a steak dinner...
We're not 100% sure if that was teeth slipping on the gears or if the winch motor had just finally given up for the day. That's a 16,000 lb warn winch so it should have been more than up to the task but we did have it running as the primary winch for about 6 hours.
@@JustinKingOffroad found my winch answer. It sounded like a PTO winch
Shaun Adams pto winch would be good.
Beautiful country
If you keep winch extensions in climbing rope bag, it pays out super easy. Some people use electrical extension cord reels
Good lord that was a beast of a pull! Made more complicated with lack of anchor points to utilize snatch blocks. Very impressive.
part out? qwq
Saludos desde Chile amigos..
A set of pry bars would help moving some of the rocks out of the way. Or ast least move smaller rocks to help "ramp"over the bigger ones.
That is one hell of a pull. I had wondered if adding a Kinetic rope would be beneficial, so it was educational to see that you chose to use one. In retrospect, the frequent near stall load conditions on the winch should have served as a reminder to insert a snatch block to double-up the line
things destroyed the easy way would of been to get a couple long lengths of steel cable connected your trucks together and just did the long yank and drag down the trail. it wont look pretty for the truck getting dragged as it will get thrown around with the violence chain around the windshield and give it hell moved a few wrecks out the hollows that way 2 big diesels would be dragging all the boulders with the xterra no problems
Is it mean to think they should've just dynamited it into confetti where it laid? Lol
What type of radios are you using to communicate with everyone?
Ham radio
On this op we were using our business band channels though
After seeing the note / caption about the kinetic rope , I knew that I needed to comment on the slingshot effects it had on the vehicle , good thing it was already totally destroyed
The King 😎
Damn that was quite a recovery. You guys need to add a heavy lift helicopter. LOL.
I'm curious what a helicopter could lift at their altitude around 12,000 feet. For example, a CH-47 that can carry 25,000lb is derated to 16,000lb at 4000ft altitude. I don't know if that limit is due to inability to lift more, or just that range decreases so much that it becomes ineffective.
@@alskjflaksjdflakjdf Good point. I have no idea. 12,000 is pretty high. I know those firefighting helicopters carry those big buckets of water up into the mountains, but I don't know to what elevation they go. They probably wouldn't be up this high.
Lack of air density the higher you go, I’m not honestly sure if it’s due to less power or rpm from the engine or because you would effectively lose lift with the same rpm because of the lack of density though.
How did the Xterra get out? Did you pull it down or did you leave it and the owner came back with a trailer?
we flat towed it to the county road for a wrecker to pickup.
@@JustinKingOffroad nice work
Cool area gotta check out that trail. Won't be going up that road it looks like a dead-end anyway.
from where we were winching is technically the end of the trail anyway, going beyond that is "off trail" per colorado standards.
@@JustinKingOffroad good to know thanks Justin !
Lots of skill and lots of knowledge of the physics in play, and the safe use of the gear. I usually wouldn't use a Kendrick rope as part of a winch system, but in this situation it appeared to work well.
You do need to be extra careful with kinetics in line with winch rigging, but it worked awesome on this one.
Fantastic recovery and great video as always all the the gear got used out of everyone's rigs on that pull poor worm gear need to call in its 300.000 mile change out.
Solid work, hope the driver and passengers weren't hurt too seriously.
38:07 wow how picturesque that sure isn't Park Ave NY city....
I follow you guys on facebook and I am thinking about joining!
Is it totaled? /s
oh yea lol!
Who makes the green soft shackles?
Mine are gator jaw
Nice job! That couldn't have been easy. Nice to see an XJ on the team too!
hi justin
I know that you have to cope with the equipment you have
so this shouldn't be an insult but just a question.
have you ever thought of taking a tractor with a forestry winch with you?
because in my area if you get stuck somewhere you go to the next farmer and ask for a short pull.
Most of them are also lumberjacks and are therefore also equipped with forestry winches for their tractors, not something like on your Jepps but commercially used forestry winches with 10,000 - 22,000 pounds of pulling force and 150 - 400 feet of rope is nothing unusual.
Well that sounds nice it's really impractical for us to have something like that. but it sure would make quick work of it. Somebody has to store it somebody has to have a trailer for it somebody has to maintain it and I just don't see that happening.
Obviously you replaced the wheels and tires ???
Nope. Aired up the driver side and pulled it out!
@@JustinKingOffroad pretty amazing
In all honesty I expected this to be a lot more squished. xterra must have one whale of a box support I would be concerned about the condition of the kinetic rope. Not designed for this type applications Did I mention I own a 2002 xterra with posi rear end and the same ground clearance as a F150
kinetic ropes used in line with winches must be done with extreme caution. we were well within the limits of the gear on this one, but it can get extremely dangerous very fast. this helped store the energy from the winch and "rubber band" the xterra over the rocks.
You never did tell us what happened, you also mentioned not damaging the Tundra, where did the Tundra fit into the recovery. Putting a dynamic rope into the winch rigging created uncontrolled movements of the recovered vehicle, this seems very dangerous.
basically they went too far and tried to turn around, rolled it. the trail officially ends where we were all staged. running a synthetic rope in line with a winch rope is indeed dangerous, but really helps store the energy from the winch and take some of the load off of it as the vehicle slams against rocks. we stayed well within the operating limits of the gear, and would not normally do this with a vehicle that wasn't this severely damaged. when you do run kinetics in line with winch line, you gotta keep everyone extra clear of the rig, which we did.
WHY NOT MOVE THE ROCKS WITH THE WINCHES FIRST??? AT 28:19
Wheres your static safety line? Your main line breaks then what? You lose your recovery back down the hill and possibly personnel.
vehicle already totaled, and we keep people well clear of the rig during pulls. we were well inside the operating limits of the line but had it failed, it wouldn't have mattered.
whats the difference of being all slow over the rock as to not brake something then moments later taking a 2x6 and a metal pipe to the sheetmetal. Its already a complete wright off.
It's not that we were trying to go slow it's that's all a faster we could go
What kind of mistake did we do to let let this happen ?
How in the world did that thing not lose a single wheel or at least snap a tie rod on that roll?? I cant believe those BFGs still had air in them too haha. Looks like you'll be fine once you get a salvage title drawn up 🤣
We actually had to reseat both driver side tires beads in order to get it rolling but yeah the underside actually fared pretty well on that thing!
A man and his dog died on Warden Gulch 5 years ago when their FJ Cruiser rolled off the road. They were very lucky to survive.
Oh my!!
I don't think it's going to buff right out.
😎👍
@27:00 wouldn't it be easier to move the rock with the 6~8 people standing there?
Absolutely not
Winch sounds about 100 yrs old
I wouldn't want to take that ride.
just thinking of 12K elevation makes gasp for breath
totally want to warm up to it if you can. i live at 5000 and drove to 12000 in 3 hours, i was totally feeling it. the smart thing would have been to camp at 10,000 the night before.
That Ole boy went to the end of trail and beyond. I've seen that trail from Santa fe peak but never ran it.
yeah the trail stops way back where we were at.
Wonder if a guy could put a small A frame apparatus with a good sized pulley right in the crest of the brow, then run the lines over that so it's protected from abrasions and then take 2 or 3 of your 4x4 2500s coupled/ tied together as a train, and simply pull the object up the hill 40 or 50 feet at a time, removing sections of line and then repositioning and reattaching the pull train for another pull. Would save a lot of wear and tear on electric winches. Of course everyone would have to be in good radio communication along with spotters watching in order to be successful. To maintain better control, the first 50ft behind the pull rigs could be a double line with it's pulley hooked to the main line and the end hook / factor55 could be hooked to another rig or stationary object. That would give the rigs double pull and better control over sudden releases. Just thinking out loud... Sorry, 26 minutes into this video, I've already drafted this comment and you have now just said what i was thinking. Ur smart 😂, and I am apparently presumtuos lol
we were going to turn trucks around and just pull, but in the essence of not damaging the terrain anymore we chose not to.
@@JustinKingOffroad thanks for considering the environment.
Starting in 2017, certain models of the F-250/350 offer a power take off as an option. This would be WONDERFUL for a hydraulic winch. Hydraulic winches can provide much more horsepower, capable of faster pulls and heavier loads. I think for 2017, this option was only offered on duallys. But they may now be available as an option on Single-Rear Wheel (SRW) Superduty's.
Hell Ford had a PTO on there transmissions back in the 70"s for winches, I know cause my late uncle had one on his pickup.
@@icicle145 Nice. But I was told that on the new transmission, the PTO can operate while the vehicle is driving, whereas with earlier versions, the drive function of the transmission was disengaged for PTO use. Concurrently operating both enables hydraulics use on snowplows and would expedite a self recovery.
What a job!! That was a lot of work. Did that winch survive or was it toast?
We're not sure yet, waiting for owner to check it out.
Nice recovery. Safely done.
Wonder if he will buy a new Bronco with the insurance money?
interesting thought! probably not, bronco release too far out.
Y'all were lucky it was still rolling on 4 after that rollover 👍🏻. 🇺🇸😎
We had to seat the beads on driver side but yep it rolled with ease for sure
So the next time you do this use your range finder to get an estimate for distance and ad 20 ft for +/- make up. You can always pull in what you don't use once you start running it up the extra distance, secure it with a secondary and anchors. Simple process I stead wasting manpower running up and down the mountain and using up energy for gear you didn't bring down.
Done this a million times on deployment. Always have a secondary rig with wench on stanby and secured as well as 3rd and fourth anchor and vehicle attached to your wench vehicle.
we did use a range finder. came in at 150 yards.
Justin King in cases like this be careful that the range finder isn’t set to horizontal distance by mistake.
Would winching a bolder out of the way be realistic or not ?
those are way heavier than they look. not worth the effort when the vehicle is already totaled.
Nice recovery! Sad, it looks like someone already took some shots at the X 35:45
it had been shot at yes. people are dicks!
pretty sure it still runs !
What was the back story?
Just went too far and tried to turn around. Rolled it.
@@JustinKingOffroad thx