The Career of Marcel Dionne
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- He was an excellent goal scorer and overall point producer, who was overshadowed by guys named Guy and Wayne.
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Can you believe Gretzky went his entire career without winning the Vezina or Norris even once? And they call this guy the GOAT . . .
One of the most underrated players of all time. Sad he never got a cup
and one of the greatest ever period
One of the best.
Sam Pollock could have gotten him because he thought it would like having Geoffrion, Dickie Moore and Beliveau... all born in 31. Could Lafleur and Dionne be the class of '51?
He was finally persuaded otherwise because Dionne was too small (5'8"). Sigh...
At least they could've gotten him back in 1975 by giving up cash which Detroit desperate needed (according to The Hockey Guy).
Marcel Dionne had a great goaltender in Rogatien Vachon from 1975 to 1978 (runner up for the Vezina in 1975). The problem was like you said, after the triple crown line, Rogie had no real defense in front of him.
I visited Dionne's diner when i was in a tournament one year. He was such a humble and great guy. A true veteran.
One of the most underrated players ever
Marcel Dionne is the *most underrated* players. Although, Ill considered Dionne as the greatest 2nd overall pick. Its unfortunate that he played in periods where he had to go against powerhouse like Montreal, Edmonton and Islanders He didnt have a good team even though he was part of the Triple Crown line.
Congrats on 101k!!
12:17 It's becoming like "Where's Waldo?" with spotting the random curse words he slips in these days:-)
Lolz
I hope they make that their third Jersey some point soon
I recall how well Dionne played during the 1976 Canada Cup. A great person!
I wish there was a way to intersperse some old footage highlights while you breakdown the accomplishments. Thanks for the video good job Shannon
Interesting series! The majority of the players were around before my time so its awesome to see informative videos about the past greats!
I am 58 years old. Marcel was one of my childhood idols. I remember how the Detroit fans jeered him after he demanded to be traded. He said he would reveal his reason(s) but never did (as best I know). Well now i have some clue. Detroit sports and live music concerts have the most loyal fans in the world. That is the truth, no bragging. The fans kept packing the old Olympia stadium venue, and the wings sucked. Point being, Marcel was a star player who according to this account, was not getting paid enough and saw no chance for advancement or to win a cup. The wing's management could have treated him better. Thanks so much for offering that clue. When Marcel demanded "trade me, or I will quit", few here in "hockey town" knew why. Marcel said he would reveal his reason(s). Now I have a better idea, and I don't blame him. He was still my childhood idol and I hated it when Detroit fans booed and jeered him. He had damn good reasons. Again, thanks for answering this 50 year old question
My teacher was neighbors with bob carpenter and they played together. Carpenter was the first American to 50 goals and my teacher sits at a computer all day, yells, and chews gum
Can you please do a video on the career of Pierre Turgeon and why he hasn’t made the hall of fame yet despite being 32nd In points with over 1200
Because Canada hates him for staying on the bench during the 'Punch-up in Piestany'.
Because there's more to hockey than point s. Is Bernie Nichols a ball of famer? Surgeon might eventually get in.
Best player to never win a Cup
P.S. This series "The Career of..." is my favourite series you do and how I found your channel, super interesting!
hands-down, no question, the best player not to win.
had he played for Montreal, he'd have been a legend.
I great player! I went to a lot of Kings games at the Forum back in those days. Dionne was an amazing hockey player. ;-)
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Marcel is so, so underated!!! "The Little Beaver"
No matter how good Gretzski was, it wasnt a thing for Centers to get Venizas and Norris trophies until Claude Giroux.
It's Gretzky!!
I'm told that Vachon was a very good goaltender (by the standards of the 1970s), but the defense in front of him often stunk.
I absolutely love learning more about former NHL all-stars/hall of famers. Thank you for the information Shannon!
So underrated met him a few times at his place in Niagara falls.. Total class and an amazing person.
great video my friend. summed up a career i didnt know much about, but should have! very efficient style. look forward to more vids
I wish LA would bring back those jerseys, except in black and white/gray
He is in the sabres alumni team although he never played for them
That guy is actually my grandfather's cousin. He has a QMJHL arena named after him "Centre Marcel Dionne" where the Drummondville Voltigeurs play. Guy is a class act and a true fuckin hockey legend.
His 49 assists are still the Wings rookie record, tied by Lidstrom.
one of the greatest ever
Marcel Dionne also had the misfortune of playing on LA Kings teams which played well during the regular season [but did not get very far in the playoffs (especially during the late 70s and early 80s)].
I'm really hoping for a Bobby Clarke or Bill Barber video eventually! Thank you for the content!
He was very underrated! No question.
A video like this for Dale Hawerchuk would be awesome by the way! :)
I did not know he was a Red Wing, and did not know how bad of teams he played on. 80-81, Taylor, Dionne, Simmer was a killer line. Too bad they could not do much with this line.
Marcel Dionne was part of the Kings "triple crown line" alongside Charlie Simmer and Dave Taylor.
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Top 10 player of all time!!!
Also overshadowed by Mike Bossy (especially during the Lafleur/Bossy races to 50 goals).
How much the game has changed in 20 years. Dionne set a rookie record with 77 points. 20 years later Teemu scored 76 GOALS!!
Arguably the best player ever who never won the Cup. There's a good episode about Dionne in Legends of Hockey series which can be found here in TH-cam.
I found this interesting scoring race : 71-72 Dionne 13th Lafleur 28: 72-73 Dionne 11th Lafleur 56: 73-74 Dionne 14th Lafleur 50: 74-75 Dionne 3rd Lafleur 4rth: 75-76 Lafleur 1rst Dionne 13th: 76-77 Lafleur 1rst Dionne 2nd: 77-78 Lafleur 1rst Dionne 18th: 78-79 Dionne 2nd Lafleur 3rd: 79-80 Dionne 1rst Lafleur 3rd: 80-81 Dionne 2nd Lafleur 50: 81-82 Dionne 7th Lafleur 38th: 82-83 Dionne 5th Lafleur 43rd, so in a nutshell from 71-83, Dionne was never outside the top 20 in scorers Lafleur was outside the top 20 6 times . in that time Dionne outscore Lafleur 1287 to 1171. Lafleurs peak coincided with the rise and fall of the Dynasty and quickly vanished a real rollercoaster. Also a member of team Canada in 72 (didn't play but was selected as a rookie) Team Canada 76 Both Lafleur and Dionne had 6 points in 7 games ...So who better?...i'm not sure it isn't Dionne
The Pearson is now the Lindsay award though
Wow, so "triple crown" is not just a pizza topping combination.
Marcel Dionne, one the best hockey NHL player and one of the best Quebec product along Rocket Richard, Béliveau, Lafleur, Raymond Bourque and Lemieux. His drama was that he never stood on good teams which would have increased his already incredible output.
Played the majority of his career in no-pressure Los Angeles, where no one cared about the Kings or hockey in general. All he cared about was getting his 50 goals and 100 points a year. He never took his teams past the second round of the playoffs. It is a lot easier to score goals and points in a place where nothing is expected of you. I seriously doubt he would have had as easy a time playing in hockey-mad Montreal in the 1970s. Lafleur flourished and I think Dionne would have caved under the pressure. Lafleur or Dionne? It's a no-brainer, really. Guy Lafleur was the superior player, period.
oh man. imagine if he had some help...
Such a nice guy. If anyone lives in southern Ontario check out his shop I'm Niagara falls. Some really cool stuff
Is a video about Henri Richard possible? He's one of my favourite players.
I always thought of Gretzky as the Bob Lenarduzzi of hockey
What would it have been like to have had him as a healthy scratch extra player on the pens at the end, getting that cup!
Being stuck on less productive teams dogged a few great players in this era. I think about Dionne, Perrault, Sittler, and JP Parise in particular, but also Martin, Ciccerelli, Denis Savard, and Borje Salming. Then there was Hadfield, Gilbert, Retalle and Park on the rangers team that just couldnt crack the dynasty teams of that era. Despite not winning cups, these guys were well loved in their home arenas. For Dionne and Perrault in particular to rack up numbers like they did on non marquee teams speaks highly of their skill as players. Would LaFleur have done the same if he were in Buffalo or Detriot or LA.....? Interesting thought.
Is this what would have happened to Alex Ovechkin without a cup?
Imo, if the Habs had drafted Dionne instead of Lafleur, I think he coudlve accomplished more than what Lafleur did with Montreal
I thought you WERE Marcel Dionne at first.
It makes me happy when you wear Kings jerseys, and you're wearing my favorite one. :)
I'm still a bit confused why Lafleur is ranked so much higher than Dionne. Dionne's has way many more good seasons and never played on any championship winning teams.
Lafleur had 6 great seasons including 4 championship seasons and was lackluster before and after that.
Dionne's all time stats are also great. He was 3rd in goals, assists and points behind Gretzky and Howe for a long time.
The only explanation I heard was that Lafleur was better on defense with his backchecking. Dionne's numbers were higher because he was the only scorer on his team (at least that's the theory that was given to me.)
People often dismiss Marcel as "that guy who vanished in the playoffs." I feel like it's a half truth. He did well if (and only if) Dave Taylor was healthy. And even then, I feel like Dionne deserved a power forward who was better than Taylor. I love Dave Taylor, but he deserved a power forward on the level of Bill Barber or Lanny McDonald, who could open space for him and score goals.
The most prolific Quebecer player of all time
After Crown Royal, Chevrolet, and the Burger King mascot, I am wondering what corporate entity LA might be ripping off with their present logo.
i remember as a kid saying this guy was one of the best players in the league and some old dude comes over talking about i dont know hockey because i'm black
Sad...
Hope you told him to gtfo
@@kingtchenka628 it is, im from chicago and in the 80s a lot of black people went to games, and a lot go now.....
@@tomchamberlain4329 well i was only like 9 at the time so no
can we see a career video for Dino Ciccerelli?
Lol 12:18 yeah I have to time stamp that
Little Beaver!
Could u do a Bernie Federko video?
I thought this guy was Marcel Dionne, looks like him.
The best player to never win a stanley cup ever.
I thought the Ted Lindsay award is what used to be the Lester Pearson award, am i missing something?
You're right, brain fart on my part.
Marcel Dionne is the best player to never win a Stanley Cup. 2nd would probably be Joe Thornton and third Mats Sundin in my humble opinion.
Joe Thornton was 1st overall pick. 1997
Sounds like Pastrnak
I wonder if the Canadiens made an attempt to trade for Dionne in 1975. Detroit just wanted cash and Canadiens wouldn't have had to give up anything valuable. Play there years and then go to LA in 1979 to begin the Triple Crown Line. The Triple Crown Line didn't begin (as I understand it) in January 1979 anyway.
Put Dionne with the 70's/80's Canadiens instead of the Red Wings and Kings and see what his numbers look like.
Also, if you want to profile an early Hall of Famer, how about Hooley Smith?
If he only went to New York , Philadelphia or Chicago.
Three 130 point seasons. Who does that?
Please do Evgeni Nabokov
Unlucky not to play for the cup
Henri Richard / Michel Goulet would be nice !
Was Howe still there, or was he in the WHA already?
eric veneto howe already left at that time
Thanks! Forgot when exactly he jumped to the WHA.
Dionne, Redmond, Danny Grant, the Wings had some players but that d*amn Norris.
Marcel Dionne was overshadowed by his Forum neighbor Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
People in this comment section confuse the word , underrated with, Overshadowed. Dionne was never underated.
But look at those legs!!!
As for the non-call in game 5, please read the following NOTE at the bottom
Rule 639 | Tripping/Clipping/Leg Checking/Slew Footing
(Note 1) Tripping is the act of placing a stick, knee, foot, arm, hand or elbow in such a manner that causes his opponent to lose balance or fall.
(Note 2) Clipping is the act of deliberately leaving the feet or lowering the body for the purpose of making contact with the opponent at or below the knees.
(Note 3) Leg check is the act of extending the leg from the front or from behind for the purpose of tripping the opponent.
(Note 4) Slew Footing is the act of a player using his leg or foot to knock or kick an opponent's feet from under him. This is done by pushing an opponent's upper body backwards with an arm or elbow at the same time using a forward motion of his leg causing the opponent to fall to the ice.
(a) A minor or major penalty shall be assessed under this rule for any of the actions described above.
(Note) However, no penalty shall be assessed under this rule if, in the opinion of the Referee, the playerwas clearly hook-checking or poke-checking the puck for the purpose of gaining possession.
What does this have to do with Dionne?
Probably the only king I respect
Let’s go bruins get er done Tonight
Rogie Vachon!!!! Goaltending not great???
Not in the 80s it wasn't.
Had to be best scorer never to win a cup!
First?