@@bbyshadythat’s where the plate and the closet middle of the plate is going to be would you rather him aim for a corner and accidentally send a slug through his shoulder joints
@@warwolveairsoft pretty much, there is alot if people I would trust to be able to hit a 12 inch plate without issue. But I dont think I would be wearing it for the test lol.
"So what do you do for a living?" "I test body armor." "Wow, that sounds cool. You get a lot of faulty ones?" "Not yet! The last faulty one we had was the guy before me."
Sometimes confidence stems from ignorance, or incompetence, or lack of intelligence... whatever the source the common thread is a lack of understanding. And that's actually frightening.
This is literally what other country’s see when they imagine America. Keep up the good work gentleman. The best smell in America is the aroma of beer, bets , and gunpowder. God bless the USA 🇺🇸
45 ACP "Knockdown Power" reminds me of Last Man Standing with Bruce Willis, where he shoots that guy with two 1911s and he is flying like 13 feet backwards, and of course fireing at least 36 rounds out of two 1911s that hold each 7 rounds in the Mag, 8 if you have one in the chamber and a full mag
@@nomad155 More pathetic than pulling a trigger, when Gun is pointed at a person? I think not... And this is just my personal opinion, and only a thought, but based on my opinion of ALL of the Baldwin Boys... I I expect him to be bragging about being a "Made Man," any second now.
@@cat3584 Incorrect. It was a Gun, being used as a prop. If it was not a gun, it could not have fired a projectile. Nice way of telling me you've never handled one before, though.
Yeah no shit 😂. A 45 hits with the same relative force as a front kick focused to a tiny point. Ever been kicked full force before? That shit can damage organs and break bones.
Sujamma_Enjoyer I would say that the larger bore pistols do save lives by others not wanting to be shot by them. That came from a criminal on television that’s why he used the .45 so he never shot anyone wile robbing them. I don’t know if that’s the right choice but he was in jail when telling this.
@@paulatudor691 that’s definitely a possibility though I don’t believe a some one could differentiate between 9mm or 45 Though if you pull out a big revolver or a desert eagle I think they’d be intimidated
Mac: How's your shooting, Thorny? Thorny: Good. I've been dead on all morning. Mac: What about that little guy? Thorny: Who, that little guy? I wouldn't worry about that little guy.
I cannot imagine being the guy pulling the trigger. I could never do that to a friend, brother, or whatever. I realize these guys must trust each other immensely, but dang...I think this is very irresponsible and dumb, but it's their lives. When Darwin was spouting his theories, he was definitely thinking of guys like this.
@@mrpickles2549 i mean would you wear the heaviest body armor in the world and be willing to be shot with it on for $50? The answer will probably be no cause being shot with a real bullet doesn't sound very good
Im 49 now and I think back to when I was around 12, 13 maybe? Cruising with my friends and shooting apples off of each others head!! Open sight with a 22 long rifle!! We were truly a bunch of Dumb Asse's!! Thank God I'm still here!!!🙏🏽🙄 This video brought back a whole shit load of crazy memories lol!! Props to this Nutcase!! You got Ball's my friend!!
I'm so glad you did this one. For so many years I've been hearing about the tremendous knockdown power of the .45 automatic. I've heard it from presumably knowledgeable gun people. So now we know. Thanks.
It’s cause of the time, it’s stopping power back then probably wasn’t achievable on a pistol and nowadays you’ve got revolver rounds out performing 45.
Think about Newton's laws of motion. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. That means that the recoil force you feel on your hand is about equal to the force that is felt when the bullet strikes. Not even a shotgun would knock you down unless you're off balance or it hits your lower leg as you're stepping.
Those plates (if they're Marine plates) are meant to stop rifle rounds traveling at a much higher velocity. The fact it stopped a pistol round is expected
Because this isnt even the meaning of knockdown power, and its with armor on. His ass would be knocked over with no armor cause he just got a slug in the chest 😂. Knockdown power is the same as stopping power, which with pistol rounds only magnums really have impressive stopping power. But a .45 still isnt a slouch by any means
Yeah, imagine if he was wearing soft body armor. Would probably have broken a rib or something. 45 acp is no slouch, crazy how it can do that with hard armor
It's worth noting that most people shot suddenly with .45 ACP aren't wearing professional body armor. If he was just wearing a t-shirt, there's your "Knockdown Power".
If anything the hard plate enhances the evidence against the claim, because it denies energy loss through penetrative means and forces it all to be converted to blunt trauma. The bullet would have less "knock down power" if it actually went through the chest.
@Lickma Balls Knock down power when reffering to the .45 ACP is in regards to the level of hydrostatic shock the bullet emparts on the body "AFTER" penetration. Heavy round moving slower through the body creates a huge gaping cavity, and the displaced fluid makes you're BP momentarrelly shit itself, and you can near instantly pass out unless you are on some crazy drugs. This is a matter of physics, and with armor on, a hard plate that dosn't deform into the wearer at that, a bullet can not penetrate soft tissue or displace enough matter to make a person go into shock and collapse, IE get knocked down. .45 just like any other heavy round with enough mass and ass behind it can seriosly fuck someone's day up, if you are not wearing armor. Source I'm a combat medic and own lots of guns.
45 acp is a large slow bullet… will be stopped by most any body armor. Also… if by some chance it would’ve gone through anfmd the buddy died… the state would take away your license to carry and probably put you i prison for at least a year
I shot an OD green flak vest from the Vietnam area. Made to stop shrapnel only, not bullets. I used a Glock 21- 45 ACP, ammo was 230 gr FMJ. The bullet stopped In the vest.
Either. Both. It’s good for people to see though. Bullets don’t just knock people over. People collapse from having holes pierced through vital organs and structures.
Perspective: On this video a shot is placed into a modern plate carrier- which definitely did it job. The grandfather and original Second Chance founder who shot himself in his vest 192 times to show it worked brought protection to mainly rated pistol calibers at the time. It still stung but generally no incapacitating injuries. Im trusting the technology and not testing on myself or anyone not needing it. Remember to practice body armor drills both above, and below any protection that an adversary may be wearing. No sense in firing into their vest, as we can see.
Simple physics, really. If the bullet was going to knock down the person being shot, then the shooter would not be able to hold onto the gun (or it would knock him down).
@@66smithra - Gone Down, maybe, but not knocked down. Impact would be less of a shove than your shoulder feels (same force, smaller area). People have taken 12 ga slugs and shown no reaction (unless/until central nervous system was hit). Again, basic physics.
@@CeltKnight quite wrong. The recoil forces have to work through the weight of the gun and they would be focused on the butt of the gun. The target on the other end doesn’t have the weight of the gun to blunt the force, and the force is concentrated on the tip of the bullet, which is much smaller than the butt of the gun. You can calculate energy foot lbs of the recoil and of the projectile. Hint: the recoil force is always lower.
@@CeltKnight okay buddy. You were about a factor of 10 off from your assessment of shoulder force vs target force. You should probably review that and then come back with another hypothesis. Shoot someone at close range with buck shot or something that won’t zip through soft tissue and get back to me. The force on target is MUCH greater than that on your shoulder.
Defying the odds? You realize they shot a hard playe with a pistol round The odds are entirely in their favor so they didn't really even take a chance with this anyone who knows anything about body armor would know its a guaranteed the round wouldn't penetrate Honestly it's about as much of a bet as "if you stand in the rain you'll get wet" Are you literally stupid?
Pfff only proves the PLATE.....wonder why battle hardened vets prefer the 45 when it comes to stopping a charging target.....they would have shot multiple rounds also...........
No replacement for shot placement proper shot placement with a .22 will stop a man in his tracks faster than a hit to something non vital with say a 9mm or bigger caliber
@@BigTex65 all I was trying to point out is practice with what ever caliber you pick for EDC is the important thing in the matter but sorry dude I didn't know you played so much dayZ and rdr please teach us the art of the gunfight...
There we go again with the ".22 Ninjas" Okay, yes .22 can kill. We know that and yes, the best gun you have is the one you can get to the quickest... but damn, lets plant our feet in reality and remember just 1 thing here... I have put thousands of rounds of 9mm through a Glock 19 and only ever had 1 misfire. I can't tell you how many misfires I have had with .22lr. I have like 6 different .22s and it's an inherent problem with the cartridge itself. It just isn't reliable enough to trust your life with unless it is your only choice. Dont get me wrong, I love mine and I think they fill a variety of roles. But personally, I am going for my Glock 19 or Glock 17 for personal defense. EDIT: That being said, I also have a Springfield XDS .45acp for a carry gun. And I love it. Lol. Slim, short, powerful, and I can actually hit pretty well with it. 👍
Some years ago I saw a video of a police officer shot in the chest at point blank range with a.45. He turned around away from the gunman and took one step and fell to the ground. Ask any military person who has seen combat and they will tell you that no one is knocked down by a rifle shot. I have heard that body reflexes can make it look like someone is knocked down when shot, but I don’t know if that is true.
Wrong. Just look at the arm of the guy that Kyle Rittenhouse shot. .556 has plenty of energy transfer and it has way more energy than .45 acp. and that is considered an intermediate cartridge. 308. and other real rifle cartridges will stop someone no matter where you hit them. According to the algorithm for Taylor knock out factor, speed matters just as much as weight and bullet diameter in stopping power. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_knock-out_factor I dunno what military people you are talking to but I would suspect them of stolen valor or being POG's.
@@Sgtassburgler I’m not saying getting hit by a bullet will not stop you or bring you down, I’m saying that you will not be knocked down. One of the military combat veterans I talked to was a marine in Vietnam and saw a lot of action. He told me and other combat veterans will tell you that men shot in combat fall where they stand. My friend was talking to a buddy in Nam when the man was hit in the forehead by a Viet Kong sniper by a high velocity rifle bullet. He fell to the ground in front of my friend. They all fall to the ground when hit and are not knocked around. An old friend of mine was in France in WW2, shot and captured by the Germans, and he saw a man hit by an artillery shell running across the battle field and he fell to the ground after taking a couple of steps without his head. I’m talking about being taken down, I’m talking about being not knocked down by any bullet going through a hand or arm or leg, head, or body. The ones who saw combat don’t talk about these things until you ask them. Once they answer your questions they don’t continue talking about it. Talk to some of the vets who saw hard core combat and ask them about solders being knocked around by being hit in the hand or arm. I read the article you referenced and it is about knocking an animal out, not about knocking them down. There have been a number of gun magazines over the years with articles on knock down power, even the American Rifleman, and they all said people are not knocked down by being shot. I was shown films of combat when in the Army and no one on the battlefield was knocked down when hit, they just fell, some dead before hitting the ground.
respectfully "knockdown power" refers to the ability of the larger wound channels left by 45 ACP hollow point loads ability to stop a man. i do understand 9mm loads have caught up and proper load selection can lead to similar results with the 9mm counterparts these days but I think it is disingenuous to measure a rounds "knockdown power" based on a round that is deliberately intercepted by armor. by this standard a 50 cal bullet doesn't have that much knockdown power so long as it is intercepted by heavy cover and a level 4 plate
I mean, they were testing (already proofed) plates rated to stop way more powerful and penetrating rounds than .45 acp. Not really that dangerous because they knew it wouldnt penetrate. The man who incented body armor demonstrated it working exactly the same way, a man whos company builds armored vics sat in the drivers seat while an employee shot rounds from an ak into the windows. Not exactly the smartest thing ever, but not inherebtly stupid. Not much different than using cs gas to test gas masks or having new cops be hit with pepperspray or tasers. It teaches you to trust your equipment
Not needed though. Why not just show the dude the video of the guy testing his body armor? I mean he used a 357 magnum at point blank range. Or use math. The ft lbs of energy of an average car going 1.7 to 2 mph is close to what a 230 grain 45 acp does at the muzzle. Put a car in neutral and push it into a friend, bet they don't move much if you aren't pushing when it slowly bumps into them.
@sean leich I’ll give him props for having the guts to do it because I sure wouldn’t but a .357 magnum slug would be worse trust me I have a .357 magnum and the exit wounds of a .357 magnum slug is ridiculous
@@914southside I know I’m not disagreeing with you at all lol I wouldn’t want to get hit with either, vest or no vest. .45 is moving a lot slower and that’s where most of the energy transfer comes from is the velocity.
I've always thought the stop a running horse argument was really a bad selling point. Sure, he's wearing armor, but the transfer of force from the round to disperse over the plate was not enough to move the person. It's why when people do get shot, they don't fly backward, and why when they get shot in the head, they fall straight down since the weight of their bodies is greater then the force acting on them.
If you got an adrenaline rush you can take bullets. I got shot in the face and was able to sprint around my engine block and like 40 feet into the parking lot with a severed corroded artery and a shattered jaw. Then when we got outside of the hospital parking lot I took over driving, parked and locked my car then walked myself into the Er completely covered in blood head to toe. If I had my gun I would have been able to dump both my 17 round mags after getting shit in the face. Unless you hit the heart or the brain stem there no guarantee you stop the threat. Especially with only 1 round. Now that one round has made the last year of my life a living hell permanently disfigured missing teeth. The floor of my mouth got remodeled I had a tooth growing from nearly the middle of.my mouth under my tongue. Bullets do bad shit to human tissue and bone.
@@tannerconkey1 medic here. Any amount of tearing to the aorta, (an artery that is at the smallest a quarter in diameter,) or femoral branches is liable to drop someone in under 10 seconds. Not kill, but drop. Blood pressure just tanks when they get hit. The carotid is weird. Being in the neck and closer to the brain you would think that having a hole in it would drop you from the supply being cut off, but because we have one on either side and it as well as the subclavian and brachiocephalic arteries sit above the heart when they get hit unilaterally, the brain still gets good enough perfusion to keep you awake.
@@tannerconkey1 medic here. Any amount of tearing to the aorta, (an artery that is at the smallest a quarter in diameter,) or femoral branches is liable to drop someone in under 10 seconds. Not kill, but drop. Blood pressure just tanks when they get hit. The carotid is weird. Being in the neck and closer to the brain you would think that having a hole in it would drop you from the supply being cut off, but because we have one on either side and it as well as the subclavian and brachiocephalic arteries sit above the heart when they get hit unilaterally, the brain still gets good enough perfusion to keep you awake.
Junior had to give it a second before knowing he had “won” the bet. Had to determine if it was blood or just piss that was running down his leg before he actually knew for sure..
Knockdown does not refer to flying backwards like you would see in the movies. That was a misconception promoted by Hollywood films. Knockdown refers to the reaction someone’s nervous system has when struck by a projectile. In the case of the “knockdown power” controversy where .45. caliber got its ethos from, was in the War in the Philippines in the 1900’s the natives would fight high on a local stimulant which would allow them to take multiple hits of the smaller caliber rounds. The soldiers were issued .45’s and noticed it had a higher lethality rate. I like 9mm and glocks because a higher mag capacity is definitely an advantage. But ask yourself why you see videos of cops and soldiers dumping 7, 8, 9 rounds of 9mm into someone and they’re still advancing towards them. Now projectiles have advanced a lot with Hollow Points and modern powders, and 9mm is way more powerful than it’s older iterations. Today though studies show caliber doesn’t matter, what matters in a firefight is who makes the shot first, but, usually bigger calibers make more devastating wounds that are harder to walk away from,
9mm .40sw and .45acp are all pretty much the same class of projectile. It is possible to hand load or buy loads that all mimic each other. For example, I can buy 230gr .40sw that travels at around the same FPS as .45acp. It’s the same round.
@@theparaminuteman Back then you didn’t have access to that many differences in grains. The ammo had the impact it did because they were using a much lighter round at the time and then moved to a heavier one. Which is how the whole “knockdown” characteristic came associated in 45, which is what I was explaining but, I guess you missed that. It’s much easier now to get access to a wider variety of ammo and weights. So also like I said today, in moderns rounds the difference is less noticeable.
@@theparaminuteman No. The velocity was made better for .9 but .115 grain didn’t much close the gap to .45. Modern ammo has gotten much closer with hotter loads and improved hollow points. Early .9mm hollow points were awful. Lot of cocooning problems. Today the gap is much closer although my hollow points I use for work and ccw are +P+ and travel at the same velocity a hot 9mm does. So yeah a .45 hollow point traveling at near the velocity of a 9mm is much more effective. But like I said this whole mythos and misconception of knockdown was witnessed a long time ago and with modern ammo the rounds are more equal. Still carrying my +p+ .45 though
@@theparaminuteman In fact to drive the point home, if you’re trying to argue velocity makes a bigger difference the m1 carbine carried by paratroopers and officers was an accurate rifle but many personal accounts noted it’s lack of lethality due to its pistol caliber cartridge. It’s similarly the size of 9mm slightly smaller. Soldiers stated it required multiple rounds to stop a threat and was an insufficient marksmen rifle. Velocity isn’t always better.
Yes and no. Sure, guns won't make you fly across the room like a hollywood movie. There is still energy transfer (like the massive cavity seen in slow motion ballistic gel shots) that will involuntarily fold someone over, hence "knockdown power".
That was definitely stupid dangerous, kinda have to agree with some of the other comments here though. You did that with what looks like a plate designed to handle riles/carbines and shotguns. The weight of the carrier/plate and the fact that he isn't a small dude and was bracing for impact definitely had a effect. Obviously the average joe doesn't have body armor at all, and the ones that do quite a few have soft armor. There is totally a lesson to be learned here. .45 is great, I own a Glock 21 gen 3 and love it. It isn't a nuke though, it doesn't send you flying 3 ft like in the movies, stop saying it does to people who dont know much about firearms.
@@jibb1451 I mean betting a hard plate would stop a .45 would be like betting if a Ford Mustang could beat a Ford Fiesta. Not much of a bet. If I personally gamble I like there to be a little risk involved, like if you could just stand there and take a 45 round wearing soft armor. That's an interesting wager.
This is the old TH-cam we all miss
missing Liveleak more.
Yup. Before money and influencers existed...I miss the old internet. Shit was the wild west because the squares didn't know how to control it yet.
True that!
Before google bought it and ruined it like they ruin everything. FU google cntz!
@@markusdee6136 Wow you’re so edgy
Woman: He's probably out cheating
Men: Let's record us testing a 45. on body armor
This comment is so freaking true.
Lmao
Great comment! Lol!!🤣😆😂
Yep
He probably did cheat after that.
Thank God he had his safety glasses in case the other guy missed
Ayooo😂
Hahahaha
the glasses are probably for spalling if he’s wearing steel plate
The glasses are for unburnt powder.
No the glasses are for the debris
I love how he aimed right for his heart in case it didn't work lol 👍
Yeah seriously though wtf
@@bbyshadythat’s where the plate and the closet middle of the plate is going to be would you rather him aim for a corner and accidentally send a slug through his shoulder joints
Bro I wish I had range buddies like this haha.
@@isaac-vb1ngI think the optimal solution for safety is to just not bother engaging in this activity.
@@RAMROD1847 that’s why no one will remember your name
I had an uncle who fought in Vietnam. He was fond of saying, "Nobody I ever shot with a .45 ever complained!"
lmao that's hilarious
Roger that !
Plates or no plates this was a very dangerous expedition, and I salute you
Mission passed respect plus
Yes!!
Especially doing this in bumfuck nowhere
You aint see the russians training with live ammo? That shitll make your asscheeks rattle
@@Patel-Chirag-Gupta Well at least they got medical personnel nearby, at least i hope so but with russians you never know
Instead of saying they're idiots, the amount of trust between these two men is astoundingly crazy. That's something you rarely see.
No it's actually called stupidity
They just took the trust fall to the next level lol
Bull shit, you mean the trust between those two guys and that plate....lol
No they are definitely idiots
@@warwolveairsoft pretty much, there is alot if people I would trust to be able to hit a 12 inch plate without issue.
But I dont think I would be wearing it for the test lol.
Now THAT is some hillbilly shit. I love it lmao
Yessir
That's why I love White guys. You do some crazy stuff!! The world needs you to do what no other sane people will😂
LMAO
I remember hearing about two dudes doing this with .22s to each other and getting arrested lmao
Yeah likewise!!!
"So what do you do for a living?"
"I test body armor."
"Wow, that sounds cool. You get a lot of faulty ones?"
"Not yet! The last faulty one we had was the guy before me."
🤣🤣🤣 “ if i came across a faulty one you’d be talking to my replacement”
Faulty steel? Do you know how life works?
I like how he took a second to make sure he alive before sayin he won the bet don’t wanna speak to soon
These guys would fit right in with the Reno county sheriff's department
Also, all gun laws are an infringement
This guy knows what’s up
Some new vest goofin!
No Highway patrol all the way, They love them them some shenanigans!
No they aren’t gay or woke enough.
I think the movie Super Troopers was shot just outside Reno and with real officers 😂🤣😂👍
This is sure to show up in a Brandon Herrera's Darwin awards episode.
Can't imagine why...
I mean, it didn't fail so....
Should be at least mentioned. The dumbfuckery.
Thats what I thought too. Let’s make it happen.
@@DeNihility Remember the couple that tried this with a bible? God can’t do all the work.
@@themanwithallthewrongopini3551 I thought it was a textbook or a dictionary or something.
Now try that with soft body armor not a hard plate.
Yeah no shit lol woulda folded his ass like origami
Or one of those wooden figures that collapse when you push the bottom down haha
Why?
@@tannerconkey1 💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@tannerconkey1 bro you had me laughing my ass off
DOCTOR: "So, Billy Bob, how did you break your ribs and sternum?"
Not with a plate.
pretty sure this falls under reckless conduct with a firearm, but whatever
You guys are either very confident or a bit touched in the head. Perhaps a bit of both
Lol "touched"....I never thought I'd see someone else use this term like that 🤣 😂 One of my favorites
Sometimes confidence stems from ignorance, or incompetence, or lack of intelligence... whatever the source the common thread is a lack of understanding.
And that's actually frightening.
Murica! 💪💪💪🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
That’s a hold my beer watch this moment.
Very educational. I’m glad people are willing to go above and beyond to get that data.
Data😂
@@thebaddest2562 You're just idiots fooling around until someone starts recording, then it becomes science.
This is literally what other country’s see when they imagine America. Keep up the good work gentleman. The best smell in America is the aroma of beer, bets , and gunpowder. God bless the USA 🇺🇸
"A war with the US? Are you nuts, they shoot each over there for fun!"
the democrats will have their paradise. You are in the way.
I thought, when other country see America, they see: 🕎✡️🇮🇱. 😆
no it aint lol
we think of burger eating people
45 ACP "Knockdown Power" reminds me of Last Man Standing with Bruce Willis, where he shoots that guy with two 1911s and he is flying like 13 feet backwards, and of course fireing at least 36 rounds out of two 1911s that hold each 7 rounds in the Mag, 8 if you have one in the chamber and a full mag
Lmfao that's some shit I need to see
I just found the clip, holy fuck I haven't laughed that hard in a while.
th-cam.com/video/00oG5gtD0Ho/w-d-xo.html
Man I totally forgot about that scene 😂😂 you just gave me a real good laugh
Alec Baldwin lost this bet, but he found a rookie to try it on.
Pathetic
@@nomad155 More pathetic than pulling a trigger, when Gun is pointed at a person? I think not...
And this is just my personal opinion, and only a thought, but based on my opinion of ALL of the Baldwin Boys...
I I expect him to be bragging about being a "Made Man," any second now.
Hahahahhahahaha
@@TimeSurfer206 it was a prop gun mate
@@cat3584 Incorrect. It was a Gun, being used as a prop. If it was not a gun, it could not have fired a projectile.
Nice way of telling me you've never handled one before, though.
Thats still a pretty good red mark from behind plate and from a pistol to boot.
Yeah no shit 😂. A 45 hits with the same relative force as a front kick focused to a tiny point. Ever been kicked full force before? That shit can damage organs and break bones.
And they have a more powerful bullet now to compare with 10mm
@@paulatudor691 Now compare that to 50.AE
Sujamma_Enjoyer I would say that the larger bore pistols do save lives by others not wanting to be shot by them. That came from a criminal on television that’s why he used the .45 so he never shot anyone wile robbing them. I don’t know if that’s the right choice but he was in jail when telling this.
@@paulatudor691 that’s definitely a possibility though I don’t believe a some one could differentiate between 9mm or 45 Though if you pull out a big revolver or a desert eagle I think they’d be intimidated
"In my day we used blanks... "
Still do. Alec Baldwin did anyway 👀
Also back in my day, we made the rookie get naked
Bullet proof cup
@@TankandDimples ah haha 👏🏿
HA!!!
Don’t mess with gen X. We are all out of Fuk’s to give.
Mac:
How's your shooting, Thorny?
Thorny:
Good. I've been dead on all morning.
Mac:
What about that little guy?
Thorny:
Who, that little guy? I wouldn't worry about that little guy.
We also used to use blanks back in the day, Mac you sick f#ck. 😂😂😂
I cannot imagine being the guy pulling the trigger. I could never do that to a friend, brother, or whatever. I realize these guys must trust each other immensely, but dang...I think this is very irresponsible and dumb, but it's their lives. When Darwin was spouting his theories, he was definitely thinking of guys like this.
Get lost, Fuddboi. Go ruin someone else's good time. There is nothing more obnoxious and annoying than gun safety Nazis.
@@benemery1644 Better safe than shot
Darwin was thinking about birds fam
Lol op is such a q ear plmmmmbbbbbssttt Darwin heheheheh pbbbssffftt Darwin you were abused as a child deal with it
@@TheGenericAssasin more like "better safe than free".
I wish I had both the balls and/or insanity this guy had to be willing to go all the way in winning this bet. God bless America.
After all he is wearing something that is designed to stop a bullet.....
I’m pretty sure alcohol was involved
@@mrpickles2549 nice flag in your name
@@mrpickles2549 i mean would you wear the heaviest body armor in the world and be willing to be shot with it on for $50? The answer will probably be no cause being shot with a real bullet doesn't sound very good
Why? This is just being irresponsible with guns, no other way to put it
Im 49 now and I think back to when I was around 12, 13 maybe? Cruising with my friends and shooting apples off of each others head!! Open sight with a 22 long rifle!! We were truly a bunch of Dumb Asse's!! Thank God I'm still here!!!🙏🏽🙄 This video brought back a whole shit load of crazy memories lol!! Props to this Nutcase!! You got Ball's my friend!!
Bro y'all was doing it different💀💀
@@flawless_Cowboy Yup!! Young dumb and Dumber!! No bullet vest, relying on accuracy 🙄😒
Wtf is more American than that
Wow! No kidding. Thank God for Angels of Mercy.
They say GOD watches over babies & fools, and y’all damn sure weren’t babies!🤔🤔Let that sink in for a minute!
“Imagine your fighting a guy and you shoot him with your last bullet, AND HE STANDS THERE, UNFAZED” this must be the guy Tate was talkin bout😂😂
Lol Andrew Tate is da Best 😎
Not with a 10mm 😂
@@holinessorhell1964 A steel plate is eating that too. Need something actually bigger for that.
Not that I would ever try or recommend this, there's just something so uplifting and hilarious about seeing boys being boys, no matter what age 😂
I can't believe TH-cam hasn't taken this down or age restricted it.
You sir ARE part of the problem.
One ricochet could have turned this experiment into tragedy.
@@thechristfollower1723 ceramic
@@thechristfollower1723 Yes that is correct and that's why the guy had safety glasses to stop any lead particles from geting into his eyes
Why would they thiers transgenders playing in sports and we let that go on
That's a rifle plate, but hey, your crazy and I love it
you're
@@wehrewulf congratulations!! 🎊 you get a gold star.
@@acefromwithin2079 I hear you. Only a schmuck would correct another person's grammar on TH-cam
@@philiptheriault7953 I guess I'm a schmuck.
@@mmabagain if you say so my man
Calm down there Alec Baldwin
I'm not a safety Sally, so, props, that took guts.
Well then I look forward to seeing you in a Darwin award video
@@jonahpatton8879and I look forward to never seeing you, as every time you step outside it’s a risk
Having trouble with your reading comprehension?
I'm so glad you did this one. For so many years I've been hearing about the tremendous knockdown power of the .45 automatic. I've heard it from presumably knowledgeable gun people. So now we know. Thanks.
It’s cause of the time, it’s stopping power back then probably wasn’t achievable on a pistol and nowadays you’ve got revolver rounds out performing 45.
This pistol in the video is a .380 ACP
Think about Newton's laws of motion. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. That means that the recoil force you feel on your hand is about equal to the force that is felt when the bullet strikes. Not even a shotgun would knock you down unless you're off balance or it hits your lower leg as you're stepping.
Those plates (if they're Marine plates) are meant to stop rifle rounds traveling at a much higher velocity. The fact it stopped a pistol round is expected
Because this isnt even the meaning of knockdown power, and its with armor on. His ass would be knocked over with no armor cause he just got a slug in the chest 😂. Knockdown power is the same as stopping power, which with pistol rounds only magnums really have impressive stopping power. But a .45 still isnt a slouch by any means
The gun safety part of me is screaming no, The body armor / gun nut part of me is simply smiling, this is a conflict of the ages
Pretty impressive that the 45 left such a red place instantly. I bet it bruised and hurt tomorrow
Yeah, imagine if he was wearing soft body armor. Would probably have broken a rib or something. 45 acp is no slouch, crazy how it can do that with hard armor
He better hold triangle to replace his plates quick
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dangerous? sure. risky? yeah... using a real vest is always better than a damn phone book.
Made sense once they said "Marine Corps" 😂
Bruh all branches have thr same sappii plates
U completely missed his point. Lmao
He said marine corps plate not that he’s in the marines also they both use the same exact plates both of you don’t make sense
Not ‘quite’ a Darwin scenario, but they knocked on his door!
No good reason to do this.
Reckless stupidity on display.
Lighten up old man, it's just good ol' dumb fun.
Don't worry about it it's Darwinism in play
Exactly especially if part of metajacket ends up in the carotids
Pretty ignorant and irresponsible
epic spalling time
@@epitaph3988 Well, its definitely dumb.
This is like standing in a road while youre buddy is driving 100mph to see if their driving skills are good enough to avoid you...
And it's amazing.
The guy in the vest said “I bet you I’m dumb enough to let you shoot me.” He won the bet , we heard him.
You sound afraid. His masculinity scares you so much, that you need to find a way to break him down to build yourself up. Simple as.
This reminds me of when that girl killed her boyfriend cuz he thought some books was gone stop a bullet
That happened here in Minnesota.
And she shot him with a desert eagle I believe.
@@mcfly8621 stupidity kills
@@quentinbarker7534 I would argue that stupidity is the deadliest force known to man. With a body count higher than TB, cancer and war combined.
Chlorine for the gene pool.
When they say "Women live longer than men." THIS is why.
Actually it's because men do all the hard and dangerous jobs that keep society going. While women thirst trap on IG and do onlyfans.
No it's because the huge majority of the army is made of men
It's worth noting that most people shot suddenly with .45 ACP aren't wearing professional body armor. If he was just wearing a t-shirt, there's your "Knockdown Power".
From that distance a slug in either hip would illuminate the “Knockdown Power”.
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The hard plate negates anything they are trying to prove
Lol that’s just the truth and who tf uses a soft plate are you dumb
@@subzer0306 Yeah soft plates are pointless i could see a concealable soft vest maybe being useful for certain people
Not really
If anything the hard plate enhances the evidence against the claim, because it denies energy loss through penetrative means and forces it all to be converted to blunt trauma. The bullet would have less "knock down power" if it actually went through the chest.
@Lickma Balls Knock down power when reffering to the .45 ACP is in regards to the level of hydrostatic shock the bullet emparts on the body "AFTER" penetration. Heavy round moving slower through the body creates a huge gaping cavity, and the displaced fluid makes you're BP momentarrelly shit itself, and you can near instantly pass out unless you are on some crazy drugs. This is a matter of physics, and with armor on, a hard plate that dosn't deform into the wearer at that, a bullet can not penetrate soft tissue or displace enough matter to make a person go into shock and collapse, IE get knocked down. .45 just like any other heavy round with enough mass and ass behind it can seriosly fuck someone's day up, if you are not wearing armor. Source I'm a combat medic and own lots of guns.
45 acp is a large slow bullet… will be stopped by most any body armor. Also… if by some chance it would’ve gone through anfmd the buddy died… the state would take away your license to carry and probably put you i prison for at least a year
I shot an OD green flak vest from the Vietnam area. Made to stop shrapnel only, not bullets. I used a Glock 21- 45 ACP, ammo was 230 gr FMJ. The bullet stopped In the vest.
Please refer to Alec Baldwin
You need a license to carry?
@@Casual_Cthulhu 😬😂👍
Yes I am very aware of the differences between a .45 and a .223. Regardless, this was stupid.
On this episode of why “women live longer”
His ego went through the roof
I was going to say "To see the actual "knockdown power" try it without the vest", but you would probably do that so I'm not going to suggest it.
That's hysterical. What was the bet? That you wouldn't flinch? Or that it doesn't push you back like in the movies?
Either. Both. It’s good for people to see though. Bullets don’t just knock people over. People collapse from having holes pierced through vital organs and structures.
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 idk man try this with a 357 mag and I think it will have different results
But until then I believe it’s the best
@@whyareusobad3528 There’s not a significant enough difference between .45 ACP and .357 Magnum for there to be any difference.
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 theirs a quite significant difference in weight and speed
@@whyareusobad3528 Not significant enough. There’s not even 100ft/lbs difference in most factory loads.
Perspective: On this video a shot is placed into a modern plate carrier- which definitely did it job. The grandfather and original Second Chance founder who shot himself in his vest 192 times to show it worked brought protection to mainly rated pistol calibers at the time. It still stung but generally no incapacitating injuries. Im trusting the technology and not testing on myself or anyone not needing it. Remember to practice body armor drills both above, and below any protection that an adversary may be wearing. No sense in firing into their vest, as we can see.
dude said, "aww we dont have anything to hang the vest on, its cool, ill just wear it while you shoot it".
that is some manly brotherly bonding right there
Simple physics, really. If the bullet was going to knock down the person being shot, then the shooter would not be able to hold onto the gun (or it would knock him down).
I can hold onto a 458 Win Mag when I shoot it. I GUARANTEE you he would have gone down from being shot with one.
@@66smithra - Gone Down, maybe, but not knocked down. Impact would be less of a shove than your shoulder feels (same force, smaller area). People have taken 12 ga slugs and shown no reaction (unless/until central nervous system was hit). Again, basic physics.
@@CeltKnight quite wrong. The recoil forces have to work through the weight of the gun and they would be focused on the butt of the gun. The target on the other end doesn’t have the weight of the gun to blunt the force, and the force is concentrated on the tip of the bullet, which is much smaller than the butt of the gun. You can calculate energy foot lbs of the recoil and of the projectile. Hint: the recoil force is always lower.
@@66smithra - Yet still no bullet made will knock anyone down. I don't know how many people you've seen shot but .. just no.
@@CeltKnight okay buddy. You were about a factor of 10 off from your assessment of shoulder force vs target force. You should probably review that and then come back with another hypothesis. Shoot someone at close range with buck shot or something that won’t zip through soft tissue and get back to me. The force on target is MUCH greater than that on your shoulder.
You can get away with stuff like this for a while but, sooner or later, you're going to regret defying the odds.
Defying the odds?
You realize they shot a hard playe with a pistol round
The odds are entirely in their favor so they didn't really even take a chance with this anyone who knows anything about body armor would know its a guaranteed the round wouldn't penetrate
Honestly it's about as much of a bet as "if you stand in the rain you'll get wet"
Are you literally stupid?
this was a one time thing for a bet.
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Мужчины:
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@@ilikewaffles3689 to be fair, Ivan did get a chuckle out of me
the virgin ow it hurts vs the chad tanking the hit like a man
Girls: why do we live linger than boys? Also boys:
Pfff only proves the PLATE.....wonder why battle hardened vets prefer the 45 when it comes to stopping a charging target.....they would have shot multiple rounds also...........
He was also prepared and braced.
No replacement for shot placement proper shot placement with a .22 will stop a man in his tracks faster than a hit to something non vital with say a 9mm or bigger caliber
@@jamesreed1124 There’s that bullshit .22 thing again. Obviously shot placement matters but that’s not always how it works in a gunfight.
@@BigTex65 all I was trying to point out is practice with what ever caliber you pick for EDC is the important thing in the matter but sorry dude I didn't know you played so much dayZ and rdr please teach us the art of the gunfight...
There we go again with the ".22 Ninjas"
Okay, yes .22 can kill. We know that and yes, the best gun you have is the one you can get to the quickest... but damn, lets plant our feet in reality and remember just 1 thing here... I have put thousands of rounds of 9mm through a Glock 19 and only ever had 1 misfire.
I can't tell you how many misfires I have had with .22lr. I have like 6 different .22s and it's an inherent problem with the cartridge itself. It just isn't reliable enough to trust your life with unless it is your only choice.
Dont get me wrong, I love mine and I think they fill a variety of roles. But personally, I am going for my Glock 19 or Glock 17 for personal defense.
EDIT: That being said, I also have a Springfield XDS .45acp for a carry gun. And I love it. Lol. Slim, short, powerful, and I can actually hit pretty well with it. 👍
Some years ago I saw a video of a police officer shot in the chest at point blank range with a.45. He turned around away from the gunman and took one step and fell to the ground. Ask any military person who has seen combat and they will tell you that no one is knocked down by a rifle shot. I have heard that body reflexes can make it look like someone is knocked down when shot, but I don’t know if that is true.
Wrong. Just look at the arm of the guy that Kyle Rittenhouse shot. .556 has plenty of energy transfer and it has way more energy than .45 acp. and that is considered an intermediate cartridge. 308. and other real rifle cartridges will stop someone no matter where you hit them. According to the algorithm for Taylor knock out factor, speed matters just as much as weight and bullet diameter in stopping power. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_knock-out_factor
I dunno what military people you are talking to but I would suspect them of stolen valor or being POG's.
@@Sgtassburgler I’m not saying getting hit by a bullet will not stop you or bring you down, I’m saying that you will not be knocked down. One of the military combat veterans I talked to was a marine in Vietnam and saw a lot of action. He told me and other combat veterans will tell you that men shot in combat fall where they stand. My friend was talking to a buddy in Nam when the man was hit in the forehead by a Viet Kong sniper by a high velocity rifle bullet. He fell to the ground in front of my friend. They all fall to the ground when hit and are not knocked around. An old friend of mine was in France in WW2, shot and captured by the Germans, and he saw a man hit by an artillery shell running across the battle field and he fell to the ground after taking a couple of steps without his head. I’m talking about being taken down, I’m talking about being not knocked down by any bullet going through a hand or arm or leg, head, or body. The ones who saw combat don’t talk about these things until you ask them. Once they answer your questions they don’t continue talking about it. Talk to some of the vets who saw hard core combat and ask them about solders being knocked around by being hit in the hand or arm. I read the article you referenced and it is about knocking an animal out, not about knocking them down. There have been a number of gun magazines over the years with articles on knock down power, even the American Rifleman, and they all said people are not knocked down by being shot. I was shown films of combat when in the Army and no one on the battlefield was knocked down when hit, they just fell, some dead before hitting the ground.
I couldn't even imagine trying this with a 22
It's a blank
Imagine having that level of trust in another person
respectfully "knockdown power" refers to the ability of the larger wound channels left by 45 ACP hollow point loads ability to stop a man. i do understand 9mm loads have caught up and proper load selection can lead to similar results with the 9mm counterparts these days but I think it is disingenuous to measure a rounds "knockdown power" based on a round that is deliberately intercepted by armor. by this standard a 50 cal bullet doesn't have that much knockdown power so long as it is intercepted by heavy cover and a level 4 plate
Madness??.... This is SPARTA!!!
You guys need to check the level of lead in your water supply.
Did I really just see that? Nicely done! Crazy hillbillies for sure but man, Impressive.
“I’m Lee Murphy and welcome to Jackass”………
They are fully aware of the danger so dont call them idiots, they simply have a next level trust to each other that most of us wish we had
They are idiots lol
One day he'll be drunk and forget he doesn't have the plate. He'll just be like "I got this"
Sad
Yes you are so smart and everybody is an idiot besides you.
@@gilbert4394 😐
aside from the fact that I won't pose to be shot at because I have a little sense
nah
I'm dumb as a box of stones
@@boldarock4095 drivin a car every day is less safer then getting a 45 shot at you with a plate on
Pretty sure that IOTV (?) Itself is level 3A which will stop 44mag.
Alternate Title: How Strong Is a Hard Plated Armour to stop a .45 ACP
Doesn’t matter, it’s the impact of the bullet that would induce “stopping power”
@@joshuawalker1971 bruh it's a hard plate it basically negated the point of M1911's stopping power
@@cjvipinosa3328 the .45 doesn’t have any stopping power unless you’re a small animal.
@@joshuawalker1971 then try getting shot of it without wearing a body armor
@@cjvipinosa3328 I have.
Women : "I wonder why we live longer than men on average"
*Men* 😎
"That little guy? I wouldn't worry about that little guy."
For the love of God, don't do this ever again.
Knockdown power is without armor.
if he was shot with 10mm, he would have not tanked it like this.
it feels different when it goes through you.. its the pain that will have you knock down on the floor..
These guys served togother.....without a doubt.
Dude got so sick of this Fudd spouting "mUh .45" her literally strapped on a PC and got shot, just to shut his buddy up 🤣🤣🤣
One word
Darwinism
Stupidity will one day clean up the jean pool 🏊.
oh the sweet irony of this comment
@@nosleep637 “Jean”
Gene* bruhhh. You’ll be the first outta that pool lol
@@ghodge82 Judging by his profile picture, he probably spelled it that way on purpose.
bruh.
Glad I had a dad that taught me firearm safety…
Bet he doesn't look both ways when walking out into traffic, either 🙄
I mean, they were testing (already proofed) plates rated to stop way more powerful and penetrating rounds than .45 acp. Not really that dangerous because they knew it wouldnt penetrate. The man who incented body armor demonstrated it working exactly the same way, a man whos company builds armored vics sat in the drivers seat while an employee shot rounds from an ak into the windows. Not exactly the smartest thing ever, but not inherebtly stupid. Not much different than using cs gas to test gas masks or having new cops be hit with pepperspray or tasers. It teaches you to trust your equipment
Not needed though. Why not just show the dude the video of the guy testing his body armor? I mean he used a 357 magnum at point blank range.
Or use math. The ft lbs of energy of an average car going 1.7 to 2 mph is close to what a 230 grain 45 acp does at the muzzle. Put a car in neutral and push it into a friend, bet they don't move much if you aren't pushing when it slowly bumps into them.
@@theseraphium91F I think the guys' math is a little "fuzzy." Not sure I'd trust it lol!
The mass of the steel plates buffers the kinetic energy.
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I’m sure he won’t be acting tough in the morning that’s a nasty lookin bruise a .357 magnum would’ve been even worse
I smell a new bet arising
@sean leich I’ll give him props for having the guts to do it because I sure wouldn’t but a .357 magnum slug would be worse trust me I have a .357 magnum and the exit wounds of a .357 magnum slug is ridiculous
@@914southside I know I’m not disagreeing with you at all lol I wouldn’t want to get hit with either, vest or no vest. .45 is moving a lot slower and that’s where most of the energy transfer comes from is the velocity.
I've always thought the stop a running horse argument was really a bad selling point. Sure, he's wearing armor, but the transfer of force from the round to disperse over the plate was not enough to move the person. It's why when people do get shot, they don't fly backward, and why when they get shot in the head, they fall straight down since the weight of their bodies is greater then the force acting on them.
If you got an adrenaline rush you can take bullets. I got shot in the face and was able to sprint around my engine block and like 40 feet into the parking lot with a severed corroded artery and a shattered jaw. Then when we got outside of the hospital parking lot I took over driving, parked and locked my car then walked myself into the Er completely covered in blood head to toe. If I had my gun I would have been able to dump both my 17 round mags after getting shit in the face. Unless you hit the heart or the brain stem there no guarantee you stop the threat. Especially with only 1 round. Now that one round has made the last year of my life a living hell permanently disfigured missing teeth. The floor of my mouth got remodeled I had a tooth growing from nearly the middle of.my mouth under my tongue. Bullets do bad shit to human tissue and bone.
Lost 6 liters of blood
@@tannerconkey1 Jesus christ dude that's intense! Mind if I ask how that happened
@@tannerconkey1 medic here. Any amount of tearing to the aorta, (an artery that is at the smallest a quarter in diameter,) or femoral branches is liable to drop someone in under 10 seconds. Not kill, but drop. Blood pressure just tanks when they get hit.
The carotid is weird. Being in the neck and closer to the brain you would think that having a hole in it would drop you from the supply being cut off, but because we have one on either side and it as well as the subclavian and brachiocephalic arteries sit above the heart when they get hit unilaterally, the brain still gets good enough perfusion to keep you awake.
@@tannerconkey1 medic here. Any amount of tearing to the aorta, (an artery that is at the smallest a quarter in diameter,) or femoral branches is liable to drop someone in under 10 seconds. Not kill, but drop. Blood pressure just tanks when they get hit.
The carotid is weird. Being in the neck and closer to the brain you would think that having a hole in it would drop you from the supply being cut off, but because we have one on either side and it as well as the subclavian and brachiocephalic arteries sit above the heart when they get hit unilaterally, the brain still gets good enough perfusion to keep you awake.
Junior had to give it a second before knowing he had “won” the bet. Had to determine if it was blood or just piss that was running down his leg before he actually knew for sure..
“I bet the 45 will knock you on your ass”
“Grab the plates”
If this is trying to show that a 45 doesn't have knockdown power, that's even dumber than shooting your friend.
Knockdown does not refer to flying backwards like you would see in the movies. That was a misconception promoted by Hollywood films. Knockdown refers to the reaction someone’s nervous system has when struck by a projectile. In the case of the “knockdown power” controversy where .45. caliber got its ethos from, was in the War in the Philippines in the 1900’s the natives would fight high on a local stimulant which would allow them to take multiple hits of the smaller caliber rounds. The soldiers were issued .45’s and noticed it had a higher lethality rate. I like 9mm and glocks because a higher mag capacity is definitely an advantage. But ask yourself why you see videos of cops and soldiers dumping 7, 8, 9 rounds of 9mm into someone and they’re still advancing towards them. Now projectiles have advanced a lot with Hollow Points and modern powders, and 9mm is way more powerful than it’s older iterations. Today though studies show caliber doesn’t matter, what matters in a firefight is who makes the shot first, but, usually bigger calibers make more devastating wounds that are harder to walk away from,
9mm .40sw and .45acp are all pretty much the same class of projectile. It is possible to hand load or buy loads that all mimic each other. For example, I can buy 230gr .40sw that travels at around the same FPS as .45acp. It’s the same round.
@@theparaminuteman Back then you didn’t have access to that many differences in grains. The ammo had the impact it did because they were using a much lighter round at the time and then moved to a heavier one. Which is how the whole “knockdown” characteristic came associated in 45, which is what I was explaining but, I guess you missed that. It’s much easier now to get access to a wider variety of ammo and weights. So also like I said today, in moderns rounds the difference is less noticeable.
@@nuclearkamikaze You think that 9mm Para wasnt just as powerful (in terms of incap potential) as .45 during WW2?
@@theparaminuteman No. The velocity was made better for .9 but .115 grain didn’t much close the gap to .45. Modern ammo has gotten much closer with hotter loads and improved hollow points. Early .9mm hollow points were awful. Lot of cocooning problems. Today the gap is much closer although my hollow points I use for work and ccw are +P+ and travel at the same velocity a hot 9mm does. So yeah a .45 hollow point traveling at near the velocity of a 9mm is much more effective. But like I said this whole mythos and misconception of knockdown was witnessed a long time ago and with modern ammo the rounds are more equal. Still carrying my +p+ .45 though
@@theparaminuteman In fact to drive the point home, if you’re trying to argue velocity makes a bigger difference the m1 carbine carried by paratroopers and officers was an accurate rifle but many personal accounts noted it’s lack of lethality due to its pistol caliber cartridge. It’s similarly the size of 9mm slightly smaller. Soldiers stated it required multiple rounds to stop a threat and was an insufficient marksmen rifle. Velocity isn’t always better.
When he said at the end, “i win the bet” i was like 😑
Try it with no body armour and you'll experience the "knockdown power"
Proves there's no such thing as "knock down power". It's all shot placement.
Yes and no. Sure, guns won't make you fly across the room like a hollywood movie. There is still energy transfer (like the massive cavity seen in slow motion ballistic gel shots) that will involuntarily fold someone over, hence "knockdown power".
Her: I wonder why guys live shorter than us?
Meanwhile:
There must have been a fourth person there, just to hold the two beers.
That was definitely stupid dangerous, kinda have to agree with some of the other comments here though. You did that with what looks like a plate designed to handle riles/carbines and shotguns. The weight of the carrier/plate and the fact that he isn't a small dude and was bracing for impact definitely had a effect. Obviously the average joe doesn't have body armor at all, and the ones that do quite a few have soft armor. There is totally a lesson to be learned here. .45 is great, I own a Glock 21 gen 3 and love it. It isn't a nuke though, it doesn't send you flying 3 ft like in the movies, stop saying it does to people who dont know much about firearms.
“Fuck you bitch I win the bet”
Yeah but did you win the bet Chris?
@@jibb1451 I mean betting a hard plate would stop a .45 would be like betting if a Ford Mustang could beat a Ford Fiesta. Not much of a bet. If I personally gamble I like there to be a little risk involved, like if you could just stand there and take a 45 round wearing soft armor. That's an interesting wager.