It should be an *_UNEQUIVOCAL_** prerequisite* - that when politicians wants to go to war, they were forced to send *_their OWN CHILDREN_* - and the children of _all their relatives - _*_FIRST!_* . . .
I get it. Everyone has their family stories, their nationalistic, cultural and religious leanings. The thing is : we cannot carry on this way! We HAVE to figure out a better way to solve our political differences because the weapons that we have are far too deadly. War has to has to cease to be the way forward because as we all know one war brings on the next war and ultimately....we don't even have the capability to imagine how bad the aftermath would be.
Einstein: "The splitting of the atom has changed everything save our modes of thinking. Thus we drift toward unparalleled catastrophe." Some movies that might help change our attitude: On the Beach Testament The Day After Dr. Strangelove...
I can't agree more. instead of fund the naturalists and decide the neighborhoods we all should together love each other, put resources to combat global warming, improve Healthcare, education. what are we doing ?
At the present - March 2022, there is the war raging in Ukraine. Men, politicians will never learn that being an aggressor will never be the way forward, especially in the 21st century. Nuclear weapons are a danger to the globe in the hands of a mad man, it is a real worry for every nation and any threats of using weapons of mass destruction, should be taken deadly serious. We all have to be on the defence, when evil forces try to reign.
My family Dr was Ukrainian with a thick accent. On his wall he had an 8x10 picture of himself dressed in a WW2 era US Army medical corp Captains uniform. Even though he said he didnt come to the United States until 1959. . When I became a teenage I asked how could this be. The Doctor told me when WW2 began many Ukrainians sided and served with the Nazis. Including many of his family. He was a young Dr at the time and he too served with the Nazis. . When the War turned the Russians came into the Ukraine and anyone even suspected of collaborating with the Nazis were executed. Including sevrral members of his family. He said he fled West to Germany and kept running until he found an advancing United States army unit. He surrendered and begged the Americans not to sending him back to Ukraine and certain death. He told them he was a Medical Doctor. After several exams and interrogations the Americans told him that if he joined the United States Army for 14 years he would be an American Soldier and no Russians would touch him and at the completion of his service he would then become an American Citizen. The Russians and the Ukrainians have a long and heated relationship.
thks for your sincerety that I appreciate very much unfortunatly the ukraine s gvt has not yet recognized its past collaboration with the nazi as last year zelensky stopped the 80th anniversary of babi yar where numerous relatives of mine as jews were barbaric assassinated by the ukraine s policy..and police due to a sharp controversy inside the ukraine s gvt as a group of patriots were contrary to recognized their collaboration with the nazi by considering themselves victims of the nazi till today and our victims are still waiting for justice not for vengeance or money. Thks for your sensibility as we have today for the sufferences of the ukrainians.
Western Ukrainians are closer to Poles and West since they were under Austro Hungarians. Rest were under Russian empire. So their mentality is different. Hence they rose up when president they elected was overthrown by US sponsored coup in 2014 and brought to power Western Ukrainians /nationalists and nazis
@@uldos3193 I’m from the eastern part of Ukraine that was under russian empire but I’m Ukrainian and I’m the same Ukrainian as those who live in the western part of Ukraine. We have the same mentality and don’t want to be the part of russia. We are free people!
Just as soil is transported worldwide from Slavic areas today, and even from Ireland to Egypt to grow potatoes which are then exported worldwide. Stealing good earth one way or another has always gone on, still is.
@@ElleNoir. Serbian old folk told me how the Germans brought electricity to their village (generator), were always polite and if they committed the slightest misdemeanour, a report to the 'kommandant' and any soldier was in trouble and compensation made/paid. When they left, they handed everything over to the villagers in perfect order. They're not 'all the same', despite the awfulness of war.
@@sonjak8265 Sure I get it - same with my Polish grandfather who suffered more than I care to relate, and remained a gentleman to the end - he married a German lady and loved her till the day he passed. The point was only that there is human goodness everywhere, generally it's the psychopathic scum at the top who cause the rest of the world such pain. I wish you well, and sorry for what happened.
The Ukrainians saw the Nazis as a better alternative to the hated Russians and that the war forced them to make wrong choices. The Ukrainian civilians clubbed Jewish women and children to death. “When they arrived at Leviatin, there were already two huge, wide-open pits ready to engulf them. The Ukrainian killers ordered the woman and children to undress and to go down into the pits. There was a spray of machinegun fire and screams, as the shouted orders of the killers blended with screams and cries of the women and children, their bodies still breathing and choking, became dust.” How could the Ukrainians have been so evil. There are photos on google showing the Ukrainian killers smiling during the Pogroms. Many people including myself could never ever have done such an evil act.
Chronicles of quiet Lviv 1941-1943: - 1941 the entrance of the Wehrmacht to Lviv, greeting - - humiliation of Jews and pogroms - Jewish ghetto in Lviv - 1943 volunteers in the Galician SS Division. th-cam.com/video/7x1uRHc9Afs/w-d-xo.html
You are right in some areas, but you are also wrong in other areas. Hitler's interest in southern part of Soviet Union is the oil fields, and not agricultural products from Ukraine to feed the German populace. It was also to capture the port and naval base of Sebastopol in order to control the black sea. There are also a lot of areas where you have mistakenly taken a stand on. But my point has already been made so there is no need to go further into details of the other points of contention.
Southern oil only became an aim AFTER the failure to take Moscow and things turned protracted. That was the beginning of the end. Lebensraum came first. Ukraine is the jewel in the crown and Vlad thinks it's time to bag it for Moscow.
One thing history teaches us is that historians, such as the one in this film, indeed can be right about some things, but one should not be too quick to agree or disagree with what they say, whether in part or in total . . . because to do so without being omniscient is always dicey. The only rational decision I favor In regard to the Ukraine is one of neutrality. The fact that there are significant Nazi or neo-Nazi militias/groups like Azov and the Right Sector etc. in the Ukraine that wield significant power and influence is what bothers me the most about our military support. As many point out, the USA’s support for abusive, aggressive regimes like Saudi Arabia, or its support for the Israeli occupation of Palestine, or its attack on essential services like Iraqi water purification and power generation facilities during both the Clinton and Bush years (to name a few) disqualify the USA from making any kind of moral case for its role as a judge of Putin, or as part of an interventionist coalition. (There are many, many other examples of the USA’s support for repressive regimes throughout the 20th and 21st century, as well as its own tolerance for corporate collusion with bad actors - such as IBM’s collaboration with the Nazi Holocaust to name just one of many, that also should disqualify the USA as a “force of good in the world”) You might as well argue that Ted Bundy should have been a prosecutor of serial killers.
I love the quote that "History is the incomplete expounding upon the whole" I really thought that this tiny overview was nice and concise and dotted with key aspects of the historical context that most people are unaware of. To call him "wrong" seems unhelpful.
Have you read "Mein Kampf?" If so you know that Hitler wanted the Ukraine to be the "Bread basket of Germany." The rush toward the Crimea was out of necessity. Hitler's Wermacht and war factories were out of oil. Regardless, the populace of Ukraine was generally pro-Nazi. And the Russians suffered between three and five MILLION casualties pushing the Germans out of the Ukraine. BTW Google the definition of Ukraine. It's English counterpart is, indeed, Frontier.
forgettin that during WWII one million and six hundred jews were barbaric murdered by nazi Germany and the collaboration of the ukraine s gvt which till today they have not yet recognized and our victims are still waiting for justice not for vengeance or money....
Britain entered WW2 in 1939 NOT 1941. On September 1, 1939, Hitler invaded Poland. On September 3, 1939, France and Britain declared war on Germany, beginning the START of WW2. German armies invaded and defeated Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland and France on 10 May 1940. After France surrendered on June 1940, Germany’s attention turned to Britain. The Battle of Britain, 10 July 1940 - 31 October 1940, when the British RAF defeated the German Luftwaffe. Germany couldn’t defeat Britain without air superiority because it is an island. Germany invaded Russia on 22 June 1941, for the Caucasus oil fields, Not for bread in Ukraine. The Ukrainians were Nazi collaborators and were wiling participants in the Pogroms.
Read The Bloodlands by prof Snyder from Yale Uni. Some comments below are critical bc this talk is too short to explain the complex history of the region and horrific alliance between Stalin and Hitler.
Good to see these facts brought to light. My dad was a Pole who was taken away in Sep ‘39 as a forced labourer and ended up in a British Sherman ? He never told me how but just said there was too much to tell. But his history, together with so much of Eastern Europe, disappeared in the Cold War
@@Petal4822 Some of them yes, but hardly all. Many fought in the Red Army. And of the collaborators, some were Nazi sympathisers, but many chose sides as they preferred the Germans to the soviets.
Ukrainians savegly.tortured and murdered more then 100 K of Polish nationals, mainly woman and children...Even the Nazi Germans were shocked seeing this...They would also.kill those of the Ukrainians who tried to hide the Polish nationals... They have never repented or apologised, Bandera, the leader of UPA is still being recognised as the national hero and his monuments are all over Ukraine...That was a genocide...
Excellent if far too short video. I think the historical perspective needs to go back to at least 1917 and the Soviet revolution as well as setting out the historical cultural difference between Ukrainians and Tsarist Russia that predate that. From a modern perspective, if is very interesting to contrast Ukraine (and the Baltic States) with Belarus, which suffered even more significant damage than Ukraine during the war itself. Why has Putin's Russia managed to subsume Belarus whilst failing to the north and south. Oh dear historian. No one in Britain thinks the war started in mid-1940. It was September 1939 and only happened then because Britain and France decided to make Poland the hill to start the fight against Hitler on.
@@wessexdruid7598 1932 around 8-10 years after the end of the Russian Civil war and is undoubtedly a major reason why a number of Ukrainians fought with Hitler after 1941.
@@TheSebiestor Hi. Firstly, the 'may I just say' was merely a use of a written convention in order to be courteous. It was not a request for permission, therefore your purported denial of permission is neither valid nor relevant. Secondly, to say 'the Brits did nothing' for two years is absurd. Have a look at the Battle of Britain, simply to commence your study of this period, then at the support the Brits gave to Russia after the German invasion of June 1941. There's so much else of course, but those two points alone will demolish what you wrote. As someone a bit silly once wrote, 'learn some history'.
@@ysgol3 i used to live next door to a merchant salior who was twice sunk delivering munitions and food to Russia in that period. My mother endured the Bltz in London. The Royal Navy ruled the waves...my Father was in the Meditteranean Fleet when the French naval ships were sunk. My Great Uncle fought in Burma as a Sergeant Major. And my Aunts husband was on the Burma Railway as a prisoner. My Godfather was at Monte Casino. My Grandfathers employee helped liberate Belsen. Theres some history Iearnt as a baby boomer from men who were there and certainly did a lot for other nations.
@@buddhastaxi666 Hi, thank you for such a fascinating reply. I hope the person to whom I replied after he or she daftly wrote that 'the Brits did nothing' in the first two years of the war reads it too!
What makes these Ukrainian pogroms so shocking and horrific is that they happened in the 1940’s, in the midst of a civilised Europe, not back in the barbaric dark ages of history..
What is the most tragic Polish civilans were hiding from Ukrainians under Russians and German troops.They were boths shocked of Ukrainians cruelity against woman and children.
How convenient to make Ukrainians the evel. The nation than suffered the most from all the regimes: soviet, polish, german. It’s so convenient to beat the weakest
Even during first actions of Holocaust (Babi Yar - killing 30,000 + people) there were lots of Ukrainian volunteers who willingly participated in the killing. Also lots of Ukrainian volunteers participated in anti-partisan and anti-insergents actions in the neighboring Belarus, killing lots of innocent civilians. There is a well known story about massacre in the Belarussian village Khatyn where almost entire village population where killed with active participation of the Ukrainian volunteers. Indeed there were major battles fought in Ukraine both during German offensive in 1941 and 1942 as well as during USSR's offensive in 1944. Civilians suffered a lot. But the Red army itself was combined from people drafted from the entire USSR (there were Ukrainians there too), it is USSR who defeated Germans in Ukraine.
The Nachtigall Battalion (English: Nightingale Battalion), also known as the Ukrainian Nightingale Battalion Group (German: Bataillon Ukrainische Gruppe Nachtigall), or officially as Special Group Nachtigall,[1] was the subunit under command of the German Abwehr special operations unit Lehrregiment "Brandenburg" z.b.V. 800. Along with the Roland Battalion it was one of two military units formed February 25, 1941 by head of the Abwehr Wilhelm Franz Canaris, which sanctioned the creation of the "Ukrainian Legion" under German command. It was composed of volunteer Ukrainians operating under Stephan Bandera's Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) orders.[2]
All true but more Ukrainians by far fought with the Red Army. The far right are a dangerous coercive force in the Ukraine, not the majority. The war has fed toxic nationalism on both sides. Only the US gains.
@@casteretpollux True. Moreover, among those about 1 million people from USSR who collaborated with Nazis Ukrainians where not the only ethnic group. Majority of those people joined Germans to feed their families or just to survive. Those volunteers who fought for Germany were not the majority. The issue is that how come all of a sudden those people appeared in the political mainstream at all? From my experience: I had relatives in western Ukraine, friends in all part of it, travelled across Ukraine for work and vacation, had lots of personal interactions with people of all ethnic groups, Russian and Ukrainian native speakers, some where Ukrainian nationalists who responded only in Ukrainian. Some of them did not hesitate to show discontent with the Soviet political and economical system, mentioned Stalin's deportations before and after the war. But I have never heard anyone who would be happy to have connections with volunteers who were willingly fighting for Nazis, not to mention German managed police forces. So leveraging those guys in all post-Soviet countries seems to be artificial. Looks like these "Ukrainian Studies" institutions are part of that problem.
@@casteretpollux Thank you, Katharine, for your reply. I absolutely agree with your conclusion about nationalism on both sides of the conflict and especially about the “beneficiaries” of it- USA
Hitler kill them people because first of all he thought they was Jews he thought the people he had in his control was Jews until he found out they was not Jews and then most of them people had diseases that man kept them people so tightly in close places.in the camps, they caught all kind of skin rashes bugs was eating them up. They had bugs in the head you notice how he cut their hair they didn't kept clean and half of them was starving to death.the neo Nazi have taken over Ukraine and Putin want his part of the land and run them KKK out. Why did the US president step in so fast what he had to gain,by sending all that weaponry over there.someone wanted the KKK to stay in that lane.
FYI...WWII started for Britain in September 1939 with the invasion of Poland, and not 1941 as stated in your video. The Blitz was in 1940 and ended in the Autumn of 1940 when the RAF, in the Battle of Britain, defeated the Luftwaffe.
@@renataoldziej5405 but Poland is the other side of Germany to Britain. No way of getting there directly. Troop ships would be sunk and aircraft shot down.
Britain entered WW2 in 1939 NOT 1941. On September 1, 1939, Hitler invaded Poland. On September 3, 1939, France and Britain declared war on Germany, beginning the START of WW2. German armies invaded and defeated Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland and France on 10 May 1940. After France surrendered on June 1940, Germany’s attention turned to Britain. The Battle of Britain, 10 July 1940 - 31 October 1940, when the British RAF defeated the German Luftwaffe. Germany couldn’t defeat Britain without air superiority because it is an island. Germany invaded Russia on 22 June 1941, for the Caucasus oil fields, Not for bread in Ukraine. The Ukrainians were Nazi collaborators and were wiling participants in the Pogroms.
Yes and hundreds of thousands of Ukranians also died by the hands of Polish nationalists. 40% of the Soviet army was Ukranian, and more than 200k Russians fought for the Germans.
So russia divided Poland with Hitler, russians killed more than 8 millions of ukrainians, russians killed 3 millions of Kazakhstan people, russians killed 300 thousands of Crimean tatars, 500 thousands of Chechens, tens of thousands of Poles(Kathryn and other massacres)......... And you are trying to frame Ukraine as an "villain nation" just because of Bybyn Yar tragedy, that was orcestreted by SS, Germans, and the most radical ukrainian collaborators... Also, don't forget that what happened in Volunie was as much of a horrible crime as what Poles(Armia Krayowa) and Polish SS did during Operation Wisla to Ukrainians and what Armia Krayowa did to tens of thousands of peaceful Ukrainians during ethic cleanings... So in the end of the day, russia killed like 150 times more peaceful people than Ukraine. That's why Poland helps Ukraine and prepares to be ready to new coming of ruSSia's "peasful world". Also, you forgot to mention that despite some ukrainian collaborators there were ten times more families that hided jew's kids and after the war raised them as their own...
Germans preferred Ukraines to Poles, and used the former to eliminate the later. There were too many Slavic peoples. Part of Generalplan Ost and Lebansbaum.
This idiot hates russia so much that he makes crackpot history about hitler wanting Ukraine just to spit russia. This man snyder can only be understood in the context of russophobia. Even In this little video he said that jews were not bothered by the Invading nazis entering Ukraine and that the soviet union was worse . The first country to ban antisemitism in the world was so bad that nazis were not seen as worse. This is the type of shit that This man spews.
My father was in the Army in WWII. Even he most likely didn't understand the situation. But I am sure he, RIP, would be rolling his grave at the present situation. I am appalled that this is is happening today and at the provocation of the US.
As an Australian I am outraged at your assertion that the US is blameworthy for the barbarian Putin and his delusions concerning goddess Russia of yore. The US did not break up the USSR, it fragmented by the choices of the various people whose ancient homelands were spread throughout it and who threw off the tyrannical grip of the Communist nightmare.
@@Pacdoc-oz but the ukraine s gvt should recognized its past collaboration with the nazi by murdering thousand of jews as till today they have not and the victims of my relatives are still waiting for justice not for veangence or money....
Have no fear, people do not roll in their graves. Do you SERIOUSLY believe that Putin was 'obliged' to invade Ukraine on account of US policy? Let the man take responsibility for his OWN decisions, since he rejects the counsel and appeals of others. Putin may be wedded to Xi's ambition via their 'unlimited partnership', he may satan's dupe, but he is NOT a puppet of US/EU/NATO. If someone provokes us to anger in public and we slug him, and there are witnesses, we are still accountable before the law. We may still be tried and convicted of assault. We cannot say that we were 'made to do it'. Did you not hear Putin's speech on the eve of the invasion? He denied Ukraine's right to exist as a nation. It was an expression of absolute contempt. No wonder that Ukrainian public opinion has hardened considerably. Prior to that speech and the invasion, a negotiated territorial compromise still seemed remotely possible. Russian atrocities and brinkmanship have made it presently impossible. Guess what? The USA is NOT the centre of the universe. When US politicians lift the phrase 'city set on a hill' from Matthew 5:14, they are VIOLATING the sense of Scripture. Scripture makes no reference to America at all. Sometimes big nations suffer from a 'messianic complex'. There is only one Messiah, JESUS: (Psalm 2:6) 'But as for Me, I have installed My King upon Zion, My holy mountain.'
If anything the US had been too apathetic about Ukraine. Russia invaded in 2014. And 2008. US barely did anything then. Russia was emboldened. This frankly seems suspiciously close to russian trolls which seem to be everywhere spewing the same lies.
I believe that you dishonor his memory and his sacrifice (and many others for that matter!) by your treacherous stance. I think you are right; he probably would be rolling over in his grave, but not for the reasons you think.
Dave Watson. It may have started for Britain in September 1939 but except for a period of no more than 3 weeks Britain had no land forces on the continent until June 1944. Possibly they did not want to muddy their boots so they let the Soviets fight the war.
@@aesop8694 Mr Aesop, I would not for a moment deny that the soviet Union did the bulk of the fighting in Europe for some years but Dunkirk was was 9 months after the start, by which time the British and Commonwealth forces were engaged in North Africa against first the Italians then the Germans, in Greece march to June 1940 and then in Italy and France from1943, not to mention a huge naval conflict the whole time and a long and bitter campaign in the far East. During this time Britain was bombed continuously and massively as well. Malta never fell.
@@davewatson309 With all due respect I would not consider British retreats and defeats to numerically inferior forces as being evidence of Britains contribution to WW2. The period from September 1939 to approx the 10th May 1940 was known as the phoney war. There after less than 2 weeks of engaging the Germans in battle, the BEF retreated to Dunkirk and were then evacuated to Britain 26th May - 4th June 1940. This evacuation was called both a miracle and a victory. Did you know that Hitler was instrumental in the success of the evacuation? Check your history, Greece had already defeated the Italians well prior to the British victories in Africa. As regards Greece and Crete Britain was there in name only. They arrived in Greece too late and took positions 100 miles from the Germans to give them time to retreat. Crete was a British disaster right from the start. Successive British generals that were sent to prepare the defences of the Island failed to do so and once again a numerically inferior German force won the battle of Crete. Churchill said of Sicily that he believed that the allies had landed a Tiger on the beaches to fight the Germans only to find that the tiger was but a pussycat. The rest is history the Germans remained in Italy until wars end while Montgomery and Paton in their vanity held parades. The war in Asia was no different the leader of the combined allied forces Lieutenant-General Percival was bluffed into surrendering to a much smaller Japanese force. Look there is no criticism intended on the bravery of the British fighting man, however one must question the competence of their military leaders.
Britain entered WW2 in 1939 NOT 1941. On September 1, 1939, Hitler invaded Poland. On September 3, 1939, France and Britain declared war on Germany, beginning the START of WW2. German armies invaded and defeated Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland and France on 10 May 1940. After France surrendered on June 1940, Germany’s attention turned to Britain. The Battle of Britain, 10 July 1940 - 31 October 1940, when the British RAF defeated the German Luftwaffe. Germany couldn’t defeat Britain without air superiority because it is an island. Germany invaded Russia on 22 June 1941, for the Caucasus oil fields, Not for bread in Ukraine. The Ukrainians were Nazi collaborators and were wiling participants in the Pogroms.
If Britain and France had a defence pact with Poland, and both Germany and Russia invaded Poland, why did Britain and France declare war against Germany only?
I'll take a stab at this one. I read somewhere that Britain and France realistically could not take on Stalin and Hitler simultaneously, so they chose to fight the more immediate threat to the European continent and thus their (until then) hegemony: Hitler. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend", as they say. It was a brief marriage of convenience that barely lasted until the end of WW2. That's how I understand it....
I'd love to know why, he thinks Hitler was so obsessed with Moscow, and Stalingrad, and then to focus on the south, if Hitler's, "real", objective was to take over the Ukraine. I'm not a professional historian, but I'm also not a professor of Astronomy, and yet still have reason to accept that the moon is not made of cheese. As for the sillyness that, "The British want to have it start in 1941" (1:10), referring to WW2, I'd love to know why he thinks that, as I'm "British", 67 years old, and was always taught it started in 1940, with the pre-cursor, (not being international, and therefore not the start of World War), in 1939. That was although we were never told about the Russian invasion, or the Molotov Ribbentrop pact
John Somebody As a historian I'm a nobody, but here is a suggestion regarding the strategic importance of Ukraine. Controlling it thoroughly might open up an avenue to the Caucasus, and via to the Caucasus to the Middle East. Apparently a few German troops did advance to somewhere around Grozny, which is past Ukraine and a sort of gateway to the Caucasus, before turning back. The port of Baku in Azerbaijan, on the Caspian Sea, was one of the world's great hubs of oil production, coveted by all major powers. Further south lay the oil fields of Iran and Mesopotamia (Iraq), eventually the Persian Gulf and Arabia itself. To control the main arteries of oil supply would have been an Unholy Grail for Hitler's forces. Had a hook-up been [possible with the Japanese to the east.......... Fortunately that was NOT possible. Sometimes I wonder why God permitted the USSR to survive as long as it did. He is merciful. I guess that still worse evil would have ensued had the Axis powers won.
How could Britain have entered the war in 1941 when my great grandfather, a pilot was captured in 1940 by the Germans in Dunkirk when his plane was shot down. He was put in a Stalag POW camp in Poland for five years until his release in 1945.
@@Petal4822 Regardless what happened to your grandfather (and thank God that he survived), Britain was involved in the war from September 3,1939 onwards. However if you mean that British forces did not have a free hand to operate at will in every theatre of war, you are certainly correct. I don't think that any combatant had quite that capacity, although the Japanese came close in 1941, which made them exceptionally dangerous.
The Ukrainians and the Poles saw Hitler as a better alternative to the hated Stalin. Hitler classed the Slavic race as sub-human and put them just above the Jews. The Nazis forced them into slave labor factories with starvation rations.
@@Petal4822 Tragically, Hitler did see things that way. Btw Slavs are NOT a race. People often confuse 'race' and LANGUAGE. Of course all the Slavic languages are related, being part of the larger Indo-European group which includes tongues as diverse as Gaelic, Greek, and Bengali. Old-fashioned concepts of 'race', originating in 19th-century Romanticism, have been blown out of the water by modern DNA science, among other things. However aspects of Romantic thought do seem to persist in conservative Russia (e.g. in the philosophy of Alexander Dugin). Most Europeans nations, and Jews also, contain elements from various sub-races all mixed up together. 'Purity' only exists in isolated which have remained separate from the rest of humanity for thousands of years, and most of those isolates have now disappeared.
A division of Ukraine soldiers drawn from the Ukraine Church which is "Under The Pope", while using Orthodox Liturgy( a very confusing history is behind that) Had surrendered to the Brits,,(I believe) and were going to be turned over to the Soviets, were rescued from that fate by the direct intervention of Pius XII and the Vatican
Yes, they were send to UK and after to Canada and USA. Many of them were nazis and US used them as skys against Russia ( Like Mykoła Lebed). Here is full story th-cam.com/video/UB_Gs-0dhOo/w-d-xo.html
Like every family in the world, opinions differ. In Ukraine, families were split between Hitler's ideology which is still alive to this day and the Russian heritage. Brittan, France and the US, could have easily sent troops to Russia to to attack Hiter from the east. Saving millions of lives. Instead the Allies decided to make lots of money instead.
LOL another looney that has no idea. The idea that Stalin would have welcomed an Western Army of several million men in the Soviet Union is laughable. In any case, we did not then have the logistical capacity to transport and them support than many men at that distance from the UK. As it was petrol shortages and air cover were major issues during 1944 as the advance extended away from the supply bases in Normandy. It was not until the large French ports (Marseille and Bordeaux) and the Belgium/Dutch ports were reopened (in 1945) that logistic issues started to decline for the allied force in NW Europe.
Thank you for writing this for all to see. The endless arrogant and condescending Western BS on how they saved the day just makes me sick. There is not even a drop of acknowledgement of the horror and suffering that people from Ukraine, Russia and Belarus went through.
@@ottilie9711 Why ? It is so much historical nonsense and well as being a complete fabrication. The war in France and Germany started in 9/39, whilst both Stalin and the Roosevelt sat in comfort minding their own business. Of course Roosevelt became a great supporter of the UK proving loans for the UK to buy weapons from US factories, but they certainly hedged their bets until the Battle of Britain was won (JFK"s father had quite a bit to do with that). The UK gave up almost all of its foreign exchange reserves and financial investments in the US to fund this. Lend Lease support (basically sale or return basis) came later. The UK barely had the troops to fight in North Africa, where we were often losing, after the Greek invasion in Spring 1941. The Home Army has been evacuated from Northern France (along with a large number of French troops. most of whom returned to France after the surrender) but without any of its equipment (tanks, artillery., vehicles, ammunition etc). France (the largest military power in pre-War Europe) had already been beaten before Russia was even invaded. Stalin even ignored warnings from Churchill and his own spy network before the Russian invasion commenced. Thats how much he trusted the UK. Neither would Stalin have allowed it. Just go and read how the Lancaster bomber crews from 617 squadron were treated on landing in Russia after the attack on th e Tirpitz or the Royal and Merchant Navy crews were confined to their ships on arrival at Murmansk and Archangel on the Russian convey route. Do you know the UK and US provide Russian with around 7,000 tanks, numerous jeeps and other vehicles (300,000 or so from the US), raw materials such as rubber and difficult to obtain alloys, including 15,000 aircraft provide by the US and a further 7,400 from the UK (3,000 of which were bought from the Americans). This contribution to the Red Army was rarely recognised though. Allied supplied equipment was removed from Russian wartime images though. Apart from the small quantity of material that was returned after the war ended, this military aid was given for FREE. Whilst preparing for the D-Day invasion of June 1944, the allies also invaded mainland Italy (after taking Sicily) in summer 1943 and did not have sufficient forces to beat even a small German occupying force of about 500,000 men. Of course, 40 % of US forces were deployed to fight on two fronts against the Japanese empire, with limited support from the UK and Australia and no support at all from Stalin's Russia. In fact the only Russian activity in the Pacific was to invade Japanese islands off the Russian coast after Japan had already been defeated, but before their official surrender. Russia still occupies this territory today. The final point is what money was made out of WW2. The UK only finished paying off the loans in 2006 and also endured WW2 style rationing until 1954, almost10 years after the end of the war itself. The US became the richest economy in the world based on its manufacturing might not out of war profiteering although they did make money from the UK between 9/39 and 12/41, before we became allies in a joint war against Germany and Japan. During the war the events on the eastern front and the sacrifices made by the Red Army were very well know and there was massive UK and French support for the Russian people. However, it was Stalin that decided to occupy eastern Europe and turn it into his sphere of Interest. The only countries the west occupied were West Germany, Japan and Italy and then not for that long. Stalin chose to make the Soviet Union the enemy of the west for his own purposes. The cold war was his creation as much as anyone else.
@@aafgahfah In the context of WW2, yes, but 500,000 men is stall a massive number. My recollection may be off slightly, but I recall reading that the UK/US Strategic bombing campaigns resulted in around 2 million German men being tied up in the anti-aircraft defence of Germany. The fear of European invasion through 43/44 alongside the sabotage and resistance support from the SOE and OSS would have also ensure Germany had to keep larger forces in Europe. I also played down British and Empire forces fighting japan on the Indian Border and then through Burma and the Australian in in Papua New Guinea and the Philippines, which kept UK empire forces out of Europe theatre. Whilst none of us should minimise the achievement of the Red Army, the Allies fought on five fronts in 1944 (Atlantic, Bombing, Africa/Italy, France and Japan) not only engaging large German forces, but also tying down large forces in Germany and Occupied Europe, which could otherwise been deployed on the eastern Front. The equipment and raw materials aid much strengthen the Red Army and Russian manufacturing capability which certainly benefited the Red Army very significantly. That this contribution is seen as nothing much by some ignorant people is shocking really.
A lot of people commenting from all different angles would benefit from actually reading the book instead of going off on the 6.5 minute video that talks about part of what the book is about
Because of Stalin. Sorry Soviets invaded Poland in 17 September 1939. Now historians provided better statistics for Polish losses. We lost 12 million people of 38 million of the whole population. You canceled our passports for millions of Poles and other nations, and made them Russians, you moved thousands to Syberia and Kazakhstan, simply leaving them in the nowhere or put in concentration camp ( lagry). Your sick leaders and politics murdered millions of innocent people. Your statistics are also fake, like all communistic statistics. Maybe in near future after some changes in your leadership you will know more true data.
@@urszulau.7687 You cannot place any blame on Mira, You keep saying your leaders, we don't really have a choice in our leaders, therfore they are not really our leaders, just a bunch of criminals running the world, causing trouble for the likes of you and me and Mira. Polish leaders could have allowed Germany to annex the Polish corridor, It belonged to Germany pre WW1, Germany tried many times with emissaries to Poland, but Poland colluded with Britain and ignored Germany,s request, thus starting WW2. Yeah well done Poland.
NOT russians RATHER the 15 republics of the USSR ALL TOGETHER LOST 23 MILLION. Of that total UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE UKRAINE concrete undebatable facts from RUSSIAN, NOT Ukrainian archives, which were briefly opened under Boris Yeltsin in 1992 but then quickly re-sealed by Putin: ONE MILLION RUSSIANS FOUGHT IN NAZI GERMAN UNIFORM IN WWII. OF THESE, 130,000- that 's one hundred thirty thousand RUSSIANS, fought in German Nazi Waffen SS units in WWII. The greatest contingent of foreign WAFFEN SS VOLUNTEERS WAS...RUSSIAN! Yet, the Neo Nä/zi CRIMINAL RUSSIANS continue to defame UKRAINE, smearing the entire Ukrainian people as "Näs/is! RUSSIANS WHO STATE IS A NAZI DICTATORSHIP IN ALL ASPECTS, call the legitimate elected democratic government of Ukraine a näsi Junta! At this very moment the russian parliament is 87% neo-näz/i, ultra right, nationalist- such as putin's very own brown shirt party "United Russia" formerly run by the self proclaimed neo-näsi Zhirinovsky, Putins dead buddy. Simply google up the russian parliament's own website to find this out in two minutes. Putin's spiritual Guru is Alexander Dugin, the self proclaimed neo-näz/i who passionately calls upon putin to carry out a FOURTH RUSSIAN GENOCIDE AGAINST THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE and wipe them out entirely this time, where both lenin and stalin failed in this exact very plan. Only TWO NATIONS ON EARTH HAVE A JEWISH PRESIDENT & defense minister (and until 2020 consecutively also a Jewish prime minister)- ISRAEL and....?....UKRAINE! UKRAINE and its people LITERALLY GAVE MORE BLOOD THAN ANY NATION ON EARTH TO SAVE THE JEWISH PEOPLE from the Holocaust. UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE IN WWII!!!!!! CHURCHILL WROTE THAT GERMANY WAS DEFEATED IN UKRAINE BY UKRAINIANS WHERE THE ENTIRE EASTERN FRONT OCCURRED AS OF 1943 There are 2240 UKRAINIANS honored among the RIGHTEOUS in Jerusalem for giving their lives to save Jews in WWII. There are a mere 220 “russians”. Let no one ever again serve you the libel, the SMEAR that Ukrainians are “anti-semites.” It is acknowledged that tens of thousands more UKRAINIANS were murdered by russians and Germans before they could be documented and recognized as “Righteous among the Nations.” THERE WERE 1000. 000 russian nazi collaborators in German Nazi in WWIIuniform 45 TIMES MORE THAN UKRAINIANS. France, Holland, Estonia, etc had FAR MORE - (and IDEOLOGICALLY CONVINCED TRUE NAZI SS COLLABORATORS than Ukraine. Ukrainians allied with Germany unwillingly to save UKRAINE from the russian socialist genocidal meat grinder. PEOPLE IGNORE the giant MASTODON in the room- ALL THE ALLIES COLLABORATED WITH....? A FAR MORE GENOCIDAL REGIME- WITH SOCIALIST RUSSIA. Yet not a single word is ever whispered in this regard. UKRAINE’S CONTRIBUTION TO THE DEFEAT OF NAZI GERMANY AND the AXIS CAN NEVER BE OVERRATED. AS CHURCHILL WROTE, GERMANY WAS DEFEATED IN UKRAINE, BY UKRAINIANS (NOT IN “RUSSIA”). 67% of All German forces (all German forces worldwide, not just on the Eastern front) including elite and SS troops were fighting & were DESTROYED in… UKRAINE, not in some “russia” or elsewhere. 1st UKRAINAN FRONT 2nd UKRAINAN FRONT 3rd UKRAINAN FRONT 4th UKRAINAN FRONT 5th UKRAINAN FRONT comprising 7.4 million troops THAT’S SEVEN-POINT-FOUR-MILLION UKRAINIAN NOT “Russian” TROOPS DEFEATED GERMANY and saved a certain “Russia” and the USSR FROM GERMANY. Ukrainians constituted about 24% of the Armed Forces of the USSR, or 8 million troops, yet UKRAINIANS were always at the very front. Russians came behind the first Ukrainian waves. The mass rapes of women were carried out by russians coming after the first waves made up almost exclusively of Ukrainians as of 1943. UUKRAINIANS SAVED RUSSIA’S Nazi A$$ in WWII & still today the RUSSIAN GENOCIDAL NEO NAZIS DEFAME UKRAINE UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE IN THIS WAR OUT OF A SOVIET TOTAL OF 23 MILLION. (8 million military and 6 million civilian). WHICH MEANS THAT ALL THE OTHER 14 REPUBLICS OF THE USSR ALL TOGETHER LOST A TOTAL OF 9 MILLION PEOPLE. UKRAINE SAVED "russia's" backside in WWII and carried out the VAST MAJORITY of the defeat of Germany. It would have done so without the allied D-Day invasion. YET NEVER A WORD IS SPOKEN OF UKRAINE IN WWII, only the word, "russia, russia, russia, russia..." UKRAINE ALONE LOST 150% OF WHAT THE FIFTEEN OTHER SOVIET “REPUBLICS” LOST ALL TOGETHER 1. Armenian SSR (Soviet Socialist Republic) 2. Azerbaijan SSR 3. Byelorussian SSR 4. Estonian SSR 5. Georgian SSR 6. Kazakh SSR 7. Kyrgyz SSR 8. Latvian SSR 9. Lithuanian SSR 10. Moldavian SSR 11. Russian SFSR (Soviet Federal Socialist Republic) 12. Tajik SSR 13. Turkmen SSR 14. Ukrainian SSR 15. Uzbek SSR The USSR LOST A TOTAL OF 23 MILLION PEOPLE. UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE. THIS MEANS THAT ALL THE OTHER SOVIET REPUBLICS plus “russia” LOST 9 MILLION PEOPLE IN TOTAL… WHEREAS UKRAINE ALL ALONE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE. UKRAINE, AS OF LATE 1942 WAS THE WORLD’S EPICENTER OFWORLD WAR II. As of 1943 UKRAINE WAS THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY OF GERMANY IN WWII …AS HITLER ORDERED. 7200 UKRAINIAN TOWNS AND VILLAGES WERE RAZED TO THE EARTH. …THAT’S SEVEN-THOUSAND-TWO HUNDRED… World War two in Europe was essentially a genocidal Tsunami which devastated exclusively UKRAINE, NOT “russia” from West to East (up to Stalingrad on Ukraine’s eastern border) and back again from East to West. (It slightly overflowed Ukraine's northern border at Kursk) As this wave rolled back westward the Germans razed 7,200 Ukrainian towns and villages. They and their populations were obliterated… Yet IGNORAMUSES in the GERMAN GOVERNMENT want to APPEASE "russia" by slitting Ukraine's throat from behind and tossing it to "russia" out of eternal generational guilt for what they did to...(not Ukraine) but rather to the rogue, mafia, illegitimate, unelected, oligarchial, neo-nä/zi DICTATORSHIP of "russia."
@@vancouveruzbekistan5350 I have never encountered such a concentration of hate and disinformation on a single page. I cringe just by thinking where and by whom you were "educated." Thankfully, Ukraine and Russia are showing in real time what they stand for. The new multipolar world is growing on the "compost" of decaying neo-imperialism. Hate devours the haters, not the hated.
Why all this bullshit? Why citing the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact as being the start of WW2 yet omit that Britain and France had rejected an earlier proposal from Stalin to form a tripartite pact against Hitler? Why have you forgotten Britains treachery of Czechoslovakia allowing the Nazis to invade this land and emboldened them to start WW2? Oh yes, it was so that Chamberlain could return victoriously from Germany with a piece of paper proclaiming that he had achieved "Peace in our time". Why have you ignored the fact that most of the Ukrainians that allied themselves and committed atrocities with the Nazis came from the Western regions of Ukraine? Don't bother answering it's obvious that you are in the employment of those trying to rewrite history.
Dunkirk also seems a little weird, surely Hitler could’ve chosen to destroy the British forces but didn’t - strange. We don’t see any allies enter the war from the west until the Russians start pushing Westbound years later....
@@БрусЛи-м3ю Gutless lying bastards that hid safely in Britain until the 6th June 1944 after Soviet forces had the Nazis in full retreat. Churchill the Treacherous Toad that he was, deliberately withheld the invasion of Europe after having promised Stalin that the attack would occur in 1942 - This bastard was also the person who proposed to Stalin where the Iron Curtain should fall on Europe. - The cause of over 500,000 deaths in Greece due to starvation and the Civil war. - The instigator of a plan to drop atomic bombs on Russia. The advocat for The Cold War. The list goes on and on for this War Criminal.
The map is misleading - it shows Transnistria on present day Moldova, when Transnistria did not even exist back then. What else is misleading, I wonder...
Politely, Transnistria did exist back then. The borders have changed throughout this region over time, especially regarding fought over territories such as this. It’s been under the umbrella of different countries and names, but the province existed in one form or another. I commented to say though, the inclusion of it specifically on this map is to signify its importance as an Axis controlled territory. I think you might be misreading it as an autonomous state/country equal in weight to that of adjacent Slovakia for example and thinking about it in regards to current status & issues. This a German War map, not a universally accepted map of the time. Slovakia doesn’t have ‘Reichskommissariat’ above it because they were a willing ally and not a forcefully occupied territory. This whole area (including Germany, but especially eastward) was a big mess over border disputes and change in control of territories for a long time. Not just where Nazi or Soviet control is concerned, but amongst themselves for ages. Sorry to be pedantic if you know that already. But so moving on, the German government was very administrative and didn’t just occupy but set up new ‘administrations’ (like German provisional government statehood names) as it expanded control. Hence Reichskomissariat Ostland and Reichskomissariat Ukraine. Re Transnistria- the landmass known as such was part of the Moldavian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic from 1924-1940. Then it fell under Romanian control from 1941-1944. But more specifically than just being under Romanian control, it is likely referring to the ‘Transnistria Governorate’, which was a Romanian-administered territory that had its own specific land/borders. (Again with the administrations.) I don’t know your nationality/knowledge/exposure, but Romania is vastly underplayed as a vital and significant Axis ally (from my American experience). This map is zoomed in and limited, but Transnistria (as in the Axis Governorate) was of great importance on the German chessboard re invasion of Ukraine and as a key positional point on the front against the USSR. A pivotal fought over territory in the war. (Unfortunately, also substantial with Holocaust atrocities.) All that just to put into context why it’s relevant on this map and natural to be alongside the others here, particularly in relation to WW2 conflict affecting Ukraine. Forgive me. I’m a nerd who can’t sleep. I don’t mean anything argumentatively and didn’t agree with everything that was said in the video as far as scope/weight. But if you have interest in the region just thought it might be helpful. Could easily understand confusion given the modern breakaway republic combined with the fact that most everyone posting content has some kind of agenda or at least bias lean, and I’ve had to be so dissecting of basic info & images being shown myself.
History is there to tell us that Nazi Gremany and the Soviet Union in August 1939 signed a nonagression pact(not allies) which Gremany broke with operation Barbarossa. Russian death toll WW2 27,000,000 killed. Ukranian WW2 death toll 4,000,000 killed. Largest battle and turning point off WW2 battle of Salingrad, Soviet Union. Largest tank battle WW2, battle of Kursk, Soviet Union.
🤦♂?! my polish-ukrainian gran,aunt4yrs old& mother 6yrs were all sent to slave-death camps in Siberia as my grandad& great uncles were in the polish airforce&army fighting Nazis, then Stalins ally!, mum only survived as Hitler invaded his ally Stalin who approached Hitler to form his pact!. We had Russian relatives too& Russians paid a great price, but Russias death toll& that of soviet empire are vdifferent!, all deaths on the eastern front were as much due to fascistic dictators like Stalin as Hitler.😖
James Gruen I beg to differ with your description of the pact, because Germany invaded Poland on Sept. 1, and on Sept. 17 the USSR did the same. The two powers did NOT come to blows over this matter. This implies some degree of collaboration/collusion/cooperation/alliance. I think the left hand knew what the right hand was doing, or vice versa. The odd thing about this arrangement is that poor Finland got dumped into the 'Axis' camp after the fact, because it had to defend itself against Soviet attack. Meanwhile a halo was depicted around Stalin's head because Hitler attacked him. But they were birds of a feather. I once read that Stalin was initially devastated by Hitler's betrayal. Don't try to save the reputation of the USSR. It was founded upon evil and atheistic rebellion. 'The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." '
UKRAINE concrete undebatable facts from RUSSIAN, NOT Ukrainian archives, which were briefly opened under Boris Yeltsin in 1992 but then quickly re-sealed by Putin: NOT " RUSSIA" but the 15 republics of the USSR lost a total of 23 million. Of that total. Ukraine alone lost 14 million. ONE MILLION RUSSIANS FOUGHT IN NAZI GERMAN UNIFORM IN WWII. OF THESE, 130,000- that 's one hundred thirty thousand RUSSIANS, fought in German Nazi Waffen SS units in WWII. The greatest contingent of foreign WAFFEN SS VOLUNTEERS WAS...RUSSIAN! Yet, the Neo Nä/zi CRIMINAL RUSSIANS continue to defame UKRAINE, smearing the entire Ukrainian people as "Näs/is! RUSSIANS WHO STATE IS A NAZI DICTATORSHIP IN ALL ASPECTS, call the legitimate elected democratic government of Ukraine a näsi Junta! At this very moment the russian parliament is 87% neo-näz/i, ultra right, nationalist- such as putin's very own brown shirt party "United Russia" formerly run by the self proclaimed neo-näsi Zhirinovsky, Putins dead buddy. Simply google up the russian parliament's own website to find this out in two minutes. Putin's spiritual Guru is Alexander Dugin, the self proclaimed neo-näz/i who passionately calls upon putin to carry out a FOURTH RUSSIAN GENOCIDE AGAINST THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE and wipe them out entirely this time, where both lenin and stalin failed in this exact very plan. Only TWO NATIONS ON EARTH HAVE A JEWISH PRESIDENT & defense minister (and until 2020 consecutively also a Jewish prime minister)- ISRAEL and....?....UKRAINE! UKRAINE and its people LITERALLY GAVE MORE BLOOD THAN ANY NATION ON EARTH TO SAVE THE JEWISH PEOPLE from the Holocaust. UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE IN WWII!!!!!! CHURCHILL WROTE THAT GERMANY WAS DEFEATED IN UKRAINE BY UKRAINIANS WHERE THE ENTIRE EASTERN FRONT OCCURRED AS OF 1943 There are 2240 UKRAINIANS honored among the RIGHTEOUS in Jerusalem for giving their lives to save Jews in WWII. There are a mere 220 “russians”. Let no one ever again serve you the libel, the SMEAR that Ukrainians are “anti-semites.” It is acknowledged that tens of thousands more UKRAINIANS were murdered by russians and Germans before they could be documented and recognized as “Righteous among the Nations.” THERE WERE 1000. 000 russian nazi collaborators in German Nazi in WWIIuniform 45 TIMES MORE THAN UKRAINIANS. France, Holland, Estonia, etc had FAR MORE - (and IDEOLOGICALLY CONVINCED TRUE NAZI SS COLLABORATORS than Ukraine. Ukrainians allied with Germany unwillingly to save UKRAINE from the russian socialist genocidal meat grinder. PEOPLE IGNORE the giant MASTODON in the room- ALL THE ALLIES COLLABORATED WITH....? A FAR MORE GENOCIDAL REGIME- WITH SOCIALIST RUSSIA. Yet not a single word is ever whispered in this regard. UKRAINE’S CONTRIBUTION TO THE DEFEAT OF NAZI GERMANY AND the AXIS CAN NEVER BE OVERRATED. AS CHURCHILL WROTE, GERMANY WAS DEFEATED IN UKRAINE, BY UKRAINIANS (NOT IN “RUSSIA”). 67% of All German forces (all German forces worldwide, not just on the Eastern front) including elite and SS troops were fighting & were DESTROYED in… UKRAINE, not in some “russia” or elsewhere. 1st UKRAINAN FRONT 2nd UKRAINAN FRONT 3rd UKRAINAN FRONT 4th UKRAINAN FRONT 5th UKRAINAN FRONT comprising 7.4 million troops THAT’S SEVEN-POINT-FOUR-MILLION UKRAINIAN NOT “Russian” TROOPS DEFEATED GERMANY and saved a certain “Russia” and the USSR FROM GERMANY. Ukrainians constituted about 24% of the Armed Forces of the USSR, or 8 million troops, yet UKRAINIANS were always at the very front. Russians came behind the first Ukrainian waves. The mass rapes of women were carried out by russians coming after the first waves made up almost exclusively of Ukrainians as of 1943. UUKRAINIANS SAVED RUSSIA’S Nazi A$$ in WWII & still today the RUSSIAN GENOCIDAL NEO NAZIS DEFAME UKRAINE UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE IN THIS WAR OUT OF A SOVIET TOTAL OF 23 MILLION. (8 million military and 6 million civilian). WHICH MEANS THAT ALL THE OTHER 14 REPUBLICS OF THE USSR ALL TOGETHER LOST A TOTAL OF 9 MILLION PEOPLE. UKRAINE SAVED "russia's" backside in WWII and carried out the VAST MAJORITY of the defeat of Germany. It would have done so without the allied D-Day invasion. YET NEVER A WORD IS SPOKEN OF UKRAINE IN WWII, only the word, "russia, russia, russia, russia..." UKRAINE ALONE LOST 150% OF WHAT THE FIFTEEN OTHER SOVIET “REPUBLICS” LOST ALL TOGETHER 1. Armenian SSR (Soviet Socialist Republic) 2. Azerbaijan SSR 3. Byelorussian SSR 4. Estonian SSR 5. Georgian SSR 6. Kazakh SSR 7. Kyrgyz SSR 8. Latvian SSR 9. Lithuanian SSR 10. Moldavian SSR 11. Russian SFSR (Soviet Federal Socialist Republic) 12. Tajik SSR 13. Turkmen SSR 14. Ukrainian SSR 15. Uzbek SSR The USSR LOST A TOTAL OF 23 MILLION PEOPLE. UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE. THIS MEANS THAT ALL THE OTHER SOVIET REPUBLICS plus “russia” LOST 9 MILLION PEOPLE IN TOTAL… WHEREAS UKRAINE ALL ALONE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE. UKRAINE, AS OF LATE 1942 WAS THE WORLD’S EPICENTER OFWORLD WAR II. As of 1943 UKRAINE WAS THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY OF GERMANY IN WWII …AS HITLER ORDERED. 7200 UKRAINIAN TOWNS AND VILLAGES WERE RAZED TO THE EARTH. …THAT’S SEVEN-THOUSAND-TWO HUNDRED… World War two in Europe was essentially a genocidal Tsunami which devastated exclusively UKRAINE, NOT “russia” from West to East (up to Stalingrad on Ukraine’s eastern border) and back again from East to West. (It slightly overflowed Ukraine's northern border at Kursk) As this wave rolled back westward the Germans razed 7,200 Ukrainian towns and villages. They and their populations were obliterated… Yet IGNORAMUSES in the GERMAN GOVERNMENT want to APPEASE "russia" by slitting Ukraine's throat from behind and tossing it to "russia" out of eternal generational guilt for what they did to...(not Ukraine) but rather to the rogue, mafia, illegitimate, unelected, oligarchial, neo-nä/zi DICTATORSHIP of "russia."
This narrator mentions USSR invading Poland from the east but neglects to mention that Germany is also invading Poland from the west. What's with the whitewashing?
Wasn't Germany also needing oil and fuel to provision it's larger war effort ? It's the break in the alliance between the Soviet Union and Grrmany which gave hope to Germany being stopped ; if the alliance had of developed, the world would have been a much different place by now ...
No... not balanced at all. He needs to go back school to understand what an alliance means. It's ramifications and consequences for formally being in one. And to know the difference between a formal alliance and a non-aggression pact. A huge difference. If the Soviet Union and Germany were in an alliance, not only would the West have declared war on Germany, after invading Poland, but by de jure... hell and de facto too, they would have also been at war with the Soviet Union. That's how an ALLIANCE works. This clown is rewriting history by saying as such. And so much more, Britain didn't see itself at war until mid 1940??? huh? Didn't mention "Lebensraum" once. Kind of an important word when it comes to Hitler's philosophy. It was also about oil too... and turns out even more so and the change in priority for Stalingrad. Oh... "but the Russian people didn't suffer nearly as much as the Ukrainians at the hands of the Nazis". Just to categorically isolate "suffering" as a quantitative value for either Russians or Ukrainians is just asinine. He has an agenda, it's obvious.
Balanced indeed . What justification is there for Ukranian collaborates to serve as guards at Nazi concentration camps and other atrocities they committed against civilians under the supervision of the Nazis ?
My head is spinning....I can not even grasp all the reasons that this led to that. What a complicated history. God bless us all and accept that we are all human :)
Ukraine was a Nazi collaborator. You can twist history however you want, but facts remain facts. Do some additional reading on Volynia massacre and such…
He just explained to you that most Ukrainians viewed the Germans as liberators from Soviet brutality. Such as the Holodomor. Something, for reasons to be discussed another time, that most of the world has never heard about. Ukrainians, rightly, believed nothing could be worse than what the Soviet Union inflicted on them. You are judging them, retrospectively, with the benefit of hindsight. That is just ridiculous.
@@markolcl4784 Yes, heard of that. A marriage of convenience. It's called real poltik. Similar to how Western democracies have "alliances" with many unsavoury nations today. Also, that pact raises the question of why we didn't declare war on the Soviet Union for also invading Poland. Instead, we decided to repackage the Soviet Union as our new partner and suddenly Stalin was rebranded as "Uncle Joe". Seems the allied powers could be just as hypocritical and duplicitous as the Axis powers. Oh, not to mention the fact that we declared war to regain Poland's freedom. At the end of the war that we "won" ended up with Poland and half of Europe under the boot of the communist dictatorship for nearly 70 years. Great result!
@@organismseven3700 Golodomor from the word "golod" which means "hunger" is thoroughly and quite successfully fabricated idea intended to increase hate and radicalize people. In reality, the rest of the USSR starved just as much if not more as "poor always complaining Ukrainians" did. If you look at the numbers in archives you would see that their "neglected, hand-picked and left to die areas" lost at least 2-3 times less people to the hunger than any given part of the USSR during those years. Not a single person is alive today who remembers the events or remembers the truth but the hate that this myth created burns oh still so strongly in the hearts of now fourth or even fifth generation.
Your copping a range of response ,a theme is reacurring that interpretation of history is in the eye of the beholder and more dangerous than a actual gun just 1 example from ww2 Germany takes half of Poland, Russia takes other half Russians thinking we need buffer and Germany will take if we dont ,Poland helps allies and at wars end isn't even permitted to join victory parades for fear of annoying a now strong Russia ,ukranians where victims and like others made choices they believed where beneficial maybe change sides later just look at vichy french
Ukrainian Collaboration during the Holocaust resulted in the shooting and beating to death of 1.2 million Jews and Ukrainians today say it was done out of revenge for the Holodomor which starved to death 5 to 7 million Ukrainians during Stalins (and some of his Jewish henchmen) rule.
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No,the part of the USSR that in numbers suffered the most in the war was Russia. Among Russians 6,750,000 miltary, 7,200,000 civilians for a total of 13,950,000 people were killed. For Ukraine the comparable figures are 1,650,000 military, 5,200,000 civilians, for 6,850,000 total killed. Because of a greater population Russia's losses were below Ukraine's per capita at 12.7% to Ukraine's 16.3%. But if considered that way the massive Belorussian's losses would be the largest 25.3% of their population. So no,while Ukraine's total of killed was high,it was no way higher than Russia's. And even it's per capita figure was less than Belarus's.
A simple wikipedia search will show you that the highest level of Soviet casualties for military and civilians in WW2 was Belarus, where's just under 25 % of the civilian population died. Ukraine is next highest at around 19 %. Russian casualties was "just" 9 % of the civilian population. You just forget that the Soviet Union was a Russian empire encompassing many different ethnic and cultural groups including Ukrainians and Belarusians.
@@nickbrough8335 First,had you read my comment correctly you would see I mentioned that about Belarus. Second,the figures I gave are from Wikipedia under Soviet casualties. Third how did I somehow forget the Soviet Union was multi-ethnic. As to it being a Russian Empire. If you mean the main language was Russian you are correct. But only a few of it's leaders in it's history were ethnic Russians. And the ruling class was very multi-ethnic at all times.
Everyone has an excuse for invasion. Words justify action and unfortunately this video is no different. Truth does not exist in communication, only propaganda. Everyone should understand this, especially those who think their country's actions are justified.
and every one has an excuse not to recognize gthe collaboration with the nazi by murdering barbaric thousand jews thks to collaboration of the ukraine s gvt during WWII!!!! d
@@mariawolf5843 2 millions of russians fought for nazis, what are you talking about?🤦🏼♂️ Also, what about 7 millions of Ukrainians and 3 millions of Kazakhstan's people russian empire (USSR) starved to death?
@@chucknutz6269 2 million is still no where near the amount of volunteers from Ukraine that fought for hitler. Most of the guards at the German concentration camps were Ukrainians, the ideology is clearly still well alive in Ukraine today. Also it wasn’t ‘Russia’ that starved Ukraine in the holodomor, it was communism.
@@harambe7430 wtf are you talking about? 🤦♂️ 🤣 Yeah, in your sick delusions ukrainians were bigger group than russians who fought for the Hitler. The rest of the world knows that russians were 3 times bigger group in Hitler's army than ukrainians. Also, it's russia who starved to death 10 millions of Ukrainians and Kazakhstan people. We were occupied by russian communists, russian communists took all the food from Ukraine and Kazakhstan and russia felt itself very good in those times.
@@chucknutz6269 my delusions?? Their literally fact hahahaha. Also your profile picture speaks about who you support, far right extreme nationalism I see. Anyway you should be thanking the Russians cause if not for them and the British and the Americans you would be living under the worst regime in European history, but I forgot you’d probably like that since your country still celebrates a literal nazi in stepan bandera.
To call a Non Aggression Pact an alliance is outright lies. Most of Europe leading into WW2 had Non Aggression Pacts. No need for lies or rewriting history. The Soviets wanted a breathing space between them and Germany.
My late dad was in WW2, serving out in the east. He wrote a diary of events while out there, and he sometimes added his observations, separately. He said how, once captured, Russian soldiors were treated by Germany. It was terrible, he said, and the brave Russian soldiors, who had to endure the most extreme weather of cold and hunger, fought hard. He would be horrified if he were alive now, and would fully agree that the German leftovers from that war operating in Ukraine need to be fully disintegrated, not only for Russia, but for Ukraine.
The Tragedy of Ukraine by Nikolai Petro. Provides a much more balanced recent and 20th century history. Petro has no axe to grind or narrative to further.
I am not convinced of your argument because if Hitler's aim was to reap the riches of Europe's Eastern bread basket then why did he fight on so many fronts and against so many countries?
I can understand that many Ukranians thought Nazi Germany was the lesser evil at that time. However, this does not explain why they thought that exterminating Ukranian Jews and Roma was an acceptable thing to do. If they were only doing it to express layalty to Germany, then they were acting like slaves of a new master. And if they really believed that those people should have been killed, then they simply and truly were Nazis in ideology and deed. Either way, it doesn't paint a pretty picture and it does raise the question : what values do the Ukranian people live by truly?
@@carolineleiden That is also true. So I guess a better question could be: can we judge people by their history? Can we learn about a people based on their history or is every historical moment unique and not linked to the past?
Tim Snyder seems to have forgotten the war declarations as Germany invaded Poland 1939 and France 1940, Norway, the Battle of Britain and a huge amount of other stuff in the hot war in Europe, the British fought stubbornly despite adversity from 1939. At least he explained the Molotov-von Ribbentrop Soviet-Nazi collaboration pact, Russians try and pretend that didn't happen.
Lol ussr was the last major european nation to sign a non aggression pact with germany westerners have completly forgotten that historical fact And brings up ribbentrop molotov pact to try to equate nazi germany and the ussr
@@marcuslarsson9548 As that pact redrew other countries borders and gave Germany a single front war, it was a collaborative aggression pact aiding the Nazi governments war aims. USSR also signed a similar pact with the Japanese early in 1941, which is the fact that is forgotten. The USSR were no liberators, they imposed a Stalinist terror on occupied countries, that lasted nearly 50 years.
@@RobBCactive well that’s your perspective the perspective from the ussr was to make the front with Germany as narrow as possibly by a preemptive occupation of eastern Poland.
@@RobBCactive Poland joined the aggression of czekoslovakia with Germany but a lot of people don’t remember that and they don’t say. That that created a one front lol
Conversely a broader set of facts can still be found , otherwise you could not make the statement , that some authorities rewrite historical events for their agenda.... propaganda. We can discern propaganda because authentic evidence usually does survive.
A no state, no border proposal: A universal acknowledgement of Natural or God given rights to Life, Freedom and Property. Local communities to oversee the observation of these rights and, when violated, to administer just and commensurate punishment. All other services currently provided by government to be abandoned and/or replaced by private contractors funded proportionately by benefactors. Libertarian, fan of Frederic Bastiat, The Law.
You make a wrong statement. You say Ukraine was the ultimate goal for Hitler. Actually it was mainly the Caucasus and Baku, because of the OIL. Germany has almost no natural Oil reserves and was starving for it. Hitlers ultimate goal was AUTARKY. Oil was one half, he Ukrainian bead basket, is the other.
Britain entered WW2 in 1939 NOT 1941. On September 1, 1939, Hitler invaded Poland. On September 3, 1939, France and Britain declared war on Germany, beginning the START of WW2. German armies invaded and defeated Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland and France on 10 May 1940. After France surrendered on June 1940, Germany’s attention turned to Britain. The Battle of Britain, 10 July 1940 - 31 October 1940, when the British RAF defeated the German Luftwaffe. Germany couldn’t defeat Britain without air superiority because it is an island. Germany invaded Russia on 22 June 1941, for the Caucasus oil fields, Not for bread in Ukraine. The Ukrainians were Nazi collaborators and were wiling participants in the Pogroms.
Ukraine is a dogs breakfast and has been since the collapse of the Hapsburg empire ( 1918 ) the truth as i see it is simple. Eastern Ukraine was a part of Imperial Russia. Wesrern Ukraine was a part of the Austrian Hungarian empire (Galacia)....so be it, two countries, one looking east, one looking west....for NATO to push into Ukraine knowing how volatile the ethnic and cultural mix is was not just stupid, it was in my opinion criminally stupid....What did they think would happen ?
Agree entirely. Wouldn't it be nice to get a full overview/facts about the history of Ukraine rather than snippets of information and opinions from experts.
Funny unhistorical lesson of history. The WW2 started with the attack of Italy to Ethiopia. And then with the alliance between France UK and Hitler under Munich agreement, where they gave him for free Sudetenland, a huge part of Czechoslovakia (without asking Czechoslovakia). In the meanwhile, before that, Westerns left Hitler to assist dictator Franco to beat democrats in Civil war of Spain. That's how WW2 started. With Westerns assisting Hitler to develop his power, because they wanted him to beat Bolsheviks.
Very, very interesting thought. Hitler started in 1919. Time Magazine in America named him Man of the Year in 1938. The U.S. got directly involved in the war in 1940. Plus, few of us know that Germany and Russia signed an agreement and they BOTH attacked Poland within weeks of each other. But the story is told that Russia saved the Jews in ww2. Go figure. But I have a question. If America wanted to defeat the Bolsheviks, then why did the U.S. President personally assist Trotsky in returning to Russia to lead the Bolshevik revolution?
Correct Germany were financially destitute after ww1 yet within 20yrs had the largest military best economy in Europe. Where did the finances come from...?
@@dreadrasta2481 Interesting. Now I have to do more research. But what is your theory about where the money came from? There are really only a few possibilities.
@@jerrysamuels8716 Hitler was the West's Bulwark to contain the Bolsheviks to the east. As usual the Western powers financed Hitler unaware of his secret nonaggression pact with Stalin... Sound familiar
@@dreadrasta2481 Thing is though, America also bankrolled the Bolsheviks. Trotsky, the leader of the red army, was even granted a pass back to the Soviet Union by Truman, I think? Plus, Hitler, later ignored that pact and attacked Russia, anyway, with the eventual goal, someone said, to take Ukraine. Thanks.
And there is Volynia massacre. Glory to the victims and eternal shame to the shameless butchers. Those events are brutal to the point that normal people cannot endure the pain of hearing about it. Imagine going through that helll.
367 murder ways, and 200 of them were invented by ukrainians especially for polish people. Most brutal genocide that happened in the history, its proved
2 millions of russians fought for nazis, what are you talking about?🤦🏼♂️ Also, what about 7 millions of Ukrainians and 3 millions of Kazakhstan's people russian empire (USSR) starved to death?
@@chucknutz6269 Your remark made me believe that you don't even know what happened in Volynia in 1939-45 to Polish defenceless peasants, well, they were ruthlessly slaughtered and tortured by Ukrainian nationalists and the methods of torture were beyond cruel. I got literally traumatised when I learned what happened to that poor children, women and men. The golodomor has nothing to do with Volynia massacre.
@@matildesroka4471So russia divided Poland with Hitler, russians killed more than 8 millions of ukrainians, russians killed 3 millions of Kazakhstan people, russians killed 300 thousands of Crimean tatars, 500 thousands of Chechens, tens of thousands of Poles(Kathryn and other massacres)......... And you are trying to frame Ukraine as an "villain nation" just because of Volunya tragedy, that was orcestreted by SS, Germans, and the most radical ukrainian collaborators... Also, don't forget that what happened in Volunie was as much of a horrible crime as what Poles(Armia Krayowa) and Polish SS did during Operation Wisla to Ukrainians and what Armia Krayowa did to tens of thousands of peaceful Ukrainians during ethic cleanings... So in the end of the day, russia killed like 150 times more peaceful people than Ukraine. That's why Poland helps Ukraine and prepares to be ready to new coming of ruSSia's "peasful world".
Unfortunately, THERE IS A LOT OF ACCOUNTS OF UKRANIANS BEING REALLY VISCIOUS TO THE JEWS IN THE VILLAGES AND THE CAMPS AND I AM VERY APILOGETIC TO SAY… THIS COMES TO MIND EVEN NOW!
those are PROVEN RUSSIAN accounts to defame Ukraine. even Now Ukraine has a Jewish president & Defense minister... elected by 76% of ("nazi"?) UKRAINIANS UKRAINE concrete undebatable facts: ONE MILLION RUSSIANS FOUGHT IN NAZI GERMAN UNIFORM IN WWII. OF THESE, 130,000- that 's one hundred thirty thousand RUSSIANS, fought in German Nazi Waffen SS units in WWII. The greatest contingent of foreign WAFFEN SS VOLUNTEERS WAS...RUSSIAN! Yet, the Neo Nä/zi CRIMINAL RUSSIANS continue to defame UKRAINE, smearing the entire Ukrainian people as "Näs/is! RUSSIANS WHO STATE IS A NAZI DICTATORSHIP IN ALL ASPECTS, call the legitimate elected democratic government of Ukraine a näsi Junta! At this very moment the russian parliament is 87% neo-näz/i, ultra right, nationalist- such as putin's very own brown shirt party "United Russia" formerly run by the self proclaimed neo-näsi Zhirinovsky, Putins dead buddy. Simply google up the russian parliament's own website to find this out in two minutes. Putin's spiritual Guru is Alexander Dugin, the self proclaimed neo-näz/i who passionately calls upon putin to carry out a FOURTH RUSSIAN GENOCIDE AGAINST THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE and wipe them out entirely this time, where both lenin and stalin failed in this exact very plan. Only TWO NATIONS ON EARTH HAVE A JEWISH PRESIDENT & defense minister (and until 2020 consecutively also a Jewish prime minister)- ISRAEL and....?....UKRAINE! UKRAINE and its people LITERALLY GAVE MORE BLOOD THAN ANY NATION ON EARTH TO SAVE THE JEWISH PEOPLE from the Holocaust. UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE IN WWII!!!!!! CHURCHILL WROTE THAT GERMANY WAS DEFEATED IN UKRAINE BY UKRAINIANS WHERE THE ENTIRE EASTERN FRONT OCCURRED AS OF 1943 There are 2240 UKRAINIANS honored among the RIGHTEOUS in Jerusalem for giving their lives to save Jews in WWII. There are a mere 220 “russians”. Let no one ever again serve you the libel, the SMEAR that Ukrainians are “anti-semites.” It is acknowledged that tens of thousands more UKRAINIANS were murdered by russians and Germans before they could be documented and recognized as “Righteous among the Nations.” THERE WERE 1000. 000 russian nazi collaborators in German Nazi in WWIIuniform 45 TIMES MORE THAN UKRAINIANS. France, Holland, Estonia, etc had FAR MORE - (and IDEOLOGICALLY CONVINCED TRUE NAZI SS COLLABORATORS than Ukraine. Ukrainians allied with Germany unwillingly to save UKRAINE from the russian socialist genocidal meat grinder. PEOPLE IGNORE the giant MASTODON in the room- ALL THE ALLIES COLLABORATED WITH....? A FAR MORE GENOCIDAL REGIME- WITH SOCIALIST RUSSIA. Yet not a single word is ever whispered in this regard. UKRAINE’S CONTRIBUTION TO THE DEFEAT OF NAZI GERMANY AND the AXIS CAN NEVER BE OVERRATED. AS CHURCHILL WROTE, GERMANY WAS DEFEATED IN UKRAINE, BY UKRAINIANS (NOT IN “RUSSIA”). 67% of All German forces (all German forces worldwide, not just on the Eastern front) including elite and SS troops were fighting & were DESTROYED in… UKRAINE, not in some “russia” or elsewhere. 1st UKRAINAN FRONT 2nd UKRAINAN FRONT 3rd UKRAINAN FRONT 4th UKRAINAN FRONT 5th UKRAINAN FRONT comprising 7.4 million troops THAT’S SEVEN-POINT-FOUR-MILLION UKRAINIAN NOT “Russian” TROOPS DEFEATED GERMANY and saved a certain “Russia” and the USSR FROM GERMANY. Ukrainians constituted about 24% of the Armed Forces of the USSR, or 8 million troops, yet UKRAINIANS were always at the very front. Russians came behind the first Ukrainian waves. The mass rapes of women were carried out by russians coming after the first waves made up almost exclusively of Ukrainians as of 1943. UUKRAINIANS SAVED RUSSIA’S Nazi A$$ in WWII & still today the RUSSIAN GENOCIDAL NEO NAZIS DEFAME UKRAINE UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE IN THIS WAR OUT OF A SOVIET TOTAL OF 23 MILLION. (8 million military and 6 million civilian). WHICH MEANS THAT ALL THE OTHER 14 REPUBLICS OF THE USSR ALL TOGETHER LOST A TOTAL OF 9 MILLION PEOPLE. UKRAINE SAVED "russia's" backside in WWII and carried out the VAST MAJORITY of the defeat of Germany. It would have done so without the allied D-Day invasion. YET NEVER A WORD IS SPOKEN OF UKRAINE IN WWII, only the word, "russia, russia, russia, russia..." UKRAINE ALONE LOST 150% OF WHAT THE FIFTEEN OTHER SOVIET “REPUBLICS” LOST ALL TOGETHER 1. Armenian SSR (Soviet Socialist Republic) 2. Azerbaijan SSR 3. Byelorussian SSR 4. Estonian SSR 5. Georgian SSR 6. Kazakh SSR 7. Kyrgyz SSR 8. Latvian SSR 9. Lithuanian SSR 10. Moldavian SSR 11. Russian SFSR (Soviet Federal Socialist Republic) 12. Tajik SSR 13. Turkmen SSR 14. Ukrainian SSR 15. Uzbek SSR The USSR LOST A TOTAL OF 23 MILLION PEOPLE. UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE. THIS MEANS THAT ALL THE OTHER SOVIET REPUBLICS plus “russia” LOST 9 MILLION PEOPLE IN TOTAL… WHEREAS UKRAINE ALL ALONE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE. UKRAINE, AS OF LATE 1942 WAS THE WORLD’S EPICENTER OFWORLD WAR II. As of 1943 UKRAINE WAS THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY OF GERMANY IN WWII …AS HITLER ORDERED. 7200 UKRAINIAN TOWNS AND VILLAGES WERE RAZED TO THE EARTH. …THAT’S SEVEN-THOUSAND-TWO HUNDRED… World War two in Europe was essentially a genocidal Tsunami which devastated exclusively UKRAINE, NOT “russia” from West to East (up to Stalingrad on Ukraine’s eastern border) and back again from East to West. (It slightly overflowed Ukraine's northern border at Kursk) As this wave rolled back westward the Germans razed 7,200 Ukrainian towns and villages. They and their populations were obliterated… Yet IGNORAMUSES in the GERMAN GOVERNMENT want to APPEASE "russia" by slitting Ukraine's throat from behind and tossing it to "russia" out of eternal generational guilt for what they did to...(not Ukraine) but rather to the rogue, mafia, illegitimate, unelected, oligarchial, neo-nä/zi DICTATORSHIP of "russia."
Do you really think this holocaust, why don't you look what we done to Syria Libya and Iraq, two millions people we killed that place is hell on earth ,every war is hell on earth,, people always suffer from evil people who love wars, we need start making peace all over ,no more ,war make peace love one another ,be good to each others , no more hate just friendships and kindness to one another,
If you have a safe and comfortable life outside Ukraine, then enjoy it and be grateful because you do not know when that ends. Salute Ukrainian soldiers for their bravery. The president of Ukraine is a real life hero RESPECT
He's paid to be a hero by his oligarch friend. Zelensky has been supplied with offshore companies in British Virgin Islands, Cyprus, and Belize. He is an Actor - he will read the script he is handed & his TV crew will do the rest. There are a lot of people dying for nothing - it's not heroism.
Seriously, with all respect to innocent Ukrainans, but you need to get your values in check. How can you respect someone like Zelensky? For what exactly?
@Samurai 7 And thousands of Russians died in Donetsk and Luhansk when the Ukraine army went on the rampage in 2014. No one wants to talk about that though.
The narator has forgoten that Petlura & Bandera were asking Hitler for support of an Independent Ukraina subjective to the Gereman Reich ( A satelite of Germany ) Hitler dismissed them as a lower race ( subhuman slavs ), these 2 also participated in the eradication of Jews with fervor in Ukraina & Poland...
Petlura could not ask Hitler for anything because he was assassinated in Paris on 25/05/1926 You have forgotten to add about the genocide the Ukrainians committed on Polish habitants in Volhynia. where a hundred thousand farmers were murdered using the cruellest methods a man can imagine, regardless they were adults or kids and was done by neighbours to neighbours. Expand your knowledge before writing anything that something was done in favour for somebody else.
Some was very opposit ! Jew Szolem Szwarcbard killed Petlura (!) 13 years before start WWII in 1926 in Paris ! So do not spread the lie about Petlura. Bandera and his OUNazi is another story.
@@Man-hf1qi And don't tell me that russian crap about Bandera who was 4 years in concentration camp, who's two brothers were killed by germans and who was fighting against poles, soviet and germans at the same time. Most of the russian people(70-80%) and russia on the state level praise Stalin, who collaborated with Hitler till 1941, who divided Poland with Hitler, who killed tens of thousands of Polish people, who caused genocide and death from Hunger to more than 7 millions ukrainians and more than 3 million of people of Kazakhstan... Stalin was 10 times worse than Bandera, and 80% of russians pray to him and call him a father and the greatest leader in history🤦♂️ If somebody can be offended by Bandera - it's Poland and Polish people, but somehow since 2013 it's russia and russians who call all patriotic ukrainians "Banderovcami"... Somehow it's russians who kill thousands of civilians and somehow Poland saves millions of "Banderovcov"
@@Man-hf1qi So russia divided Poland with Hitler, russians killed more than 8 millions of ukrainians, russians killed 3 millions of Kazakhstan people, russians killed 300 thousands of Crimean tatars, 500 thousands of Chechens, tens of thousands of Poles(Kathryn and other massacres)......... And you are trying to frame Ukraine as an "villain nation" just because of Bybyn Yar tragedy, that was orcestreted by SS, Germans, and the most radical ukrainian collaborators... Also, don't forget that what happened in Volunie was as much of a horrible crime as what Poles(Armia Krayowa) and Polish SS did during Operation Wisla to Ukrainians and what Armia Krayowa did to tens of thousands of peaceful Ukrainians during ethic cleanings... So in the end of the day, russia killed like 150 times more peaceful people than Ukraine. That's why Poland helps Ukraine and prepares to be ready to new coming of ruSSia's "peasful world". Also, you forgot to mention that despite some ukrainian collaborators there were ten times more families that hided jew's kids and after the war raised them as their own...
When Petlura was assassinated in Paris and was accused of antisemitism, Pilsudski sent his own agent to defend Petlura's good name in court with evidence that Petlura punished any form of antisemitism. There were many problems with the court case.
"Ukraine" as a whole total population may have "suffered" more than Russia, but it was the collaborationists who gained, a top small percent of the population because the overtake of Ukraine for Germany absorbtion entailed depopulation. Meaning a partial "liquidation" of the massive population, retaining "essential workers" to do the framing and administrative jobs, leaving an "entitled" collaborationist bureaucratic arm of the Nazi empire. More lebensraum, which was one of the prime objectives of the Nazis for their own cultural expansion into neighboring countries.
Ukraine definitely suffered more than "russia". At first russia starved to death 7 millions of Ukrainians, than few decades later Nazis killed another 8 millions of Ukrainians. What are you talking about?
What makes these Ukrainian pogroms so shocking and horrific is that they happened in the 1940’s, in the midst of a civilised Europe, not back in the barbaric dark ages of history..
It should be an *_UNEQUIVOCAL_** prerequisite* - that when politicians wants to go to war, they were forced to send *_their OWN CHILDREN_* - and the children of _all their relatives - _*_FIRST!_* . . .
I get it. Everyone has their family stories, their nationalistic, cultural and religious leanings. The thing is : we cannot carry on this way! We HAVE to figure out a better way to solve our political differences because the weapons that we have are far too deadly. War has to has to cease to be the way forward because as we all know one war brings on the next war and ultimately....we don't even have the capability to imagine how bad the aftermath would be.
If we work hard to do something maybe it's not too late.
@@AD-gy6eq yeaaaa about that......kinda went sideways
Einstein: "The splitting of the atom has changed everything save our modes of thinking. Thus we drift toward unparalleled catastrophe."
Some movies that might help change our attitude:
On the Beach
Testament
The Day After
Dr. Strangelove...
I can't agree more. instead of fund the naturalists and decide the neighborhoods we all should together love each other, put resources to combat global warming, improve Healthcare, education. what are we doing ?
At the present - March 2022, there is the war raging in Ukraine. Men, politicians will never learn that being an aggressor will never be the way forward, especially in the 21st century. Nuclear weapons are a danger to the globe in the hands of a mad man, it is a real worry for every nation and any threats of using weapons of mass destruction, should be taken deadly serious. We all have to be on the defence, when evil forces try to reign.
My family Dr was Ukrainian with a thick accent. On his wall he had an 8x10 picture of himself dressed in a WW2 era US Army medical corp Captains uniform. Even though he said he didnt come to the United States until 1959. .
When I became a teenage I asked how could this be.
The Doctor told me when WW2 began many Ukrainians sided and served with the Nazis. Including many of his family. He was a young Dr at the time and he too served with the Nazis. .
When the War turned the Russians came into the Ukraine and anyone even suspected of collaborating with the Nazis were executed. Including sevrral members of his family.
He said he fled West to Germany and kept running until he found an advancing United States army unit.
He surrendered and begged the Americans not to sending him back to Ukraine and certain death.
He told them he was a Medical Doctor. After several exams and interrogations the Americans told him that if he joined the United States Army for 14 years he would be an American Soldier and no Russians would touch him and at the completion of his service he would then become an American Citizen.
The Russians and the Ukrainians have a long and heated relationship.
thank you for sharing
This appears to throw more light to the deep-rooted cause of the current conflict.
thks for your sincerety that I appreciate very much unfortunatly the ukraine s gvt has not yet recognized its past collaboration with the nazi as last year zelensky stopped the 80th anniversary of babi yar where numerous relatives of mine as jews were barbaric assassinated by the ukraine s policy..and police due to a sharp controversy inside the ukraine s gvt as a group of patriots were contrary to recognized their collaboration with the nazi by considering themselves victims of the nazi till today and our victims are still waiting for justice not for vengeance or money. Thks for your sensibility as we have today for the sufferences of the ukrainians.
Western Ukrainians are closer to Poles and West since they were under Austro Hungarians.
Rest were under Russian empire. So their mentality is different. Hence they rose up when president they elected was overthrown by US sponsored coup in 2014 and brought to power Western Ukrainians /nationalists and nazis
@@uldos3193 I’m from the eastern part of Ukraine that was under russian empire but I’m Ukrainian and I’m the same Ukrainian as those who live in the western part of Ukraine. We have the same mentality and don’t want to be the part of russia. We are free people!
My wife is Ukrainian and she told me her grandparents told her that Germans took truck loads of the black soil to Germany.
Just as soil is transported worldwide from Slavic areas today, and even from Ireland to Egypt to grow potatoes which are then exported worldwide. Stealing good earth one way or another has always gone on, still is.
It would be easier to point out what Germans didn't steal.
@@ElleNoir. Serbian old folk told me how the Germans brought electricity to their village (generator), were always polite and if they committed the slightest misdemeanour, a report to the 'kommandant' and any soldier was in trouble and compensation made/paid. When they left, they handed everything over to the villagers in perfect order. They're not 'all the same', despite the awfulness of war.
@@gurglejug627 From my Serbian village, my grandfather, his two brothers, and most other adult men were taken to work in Germany.
@@sonjak8265 Sure I get it - same with my Polish grandfather who suffered more than I care to relate, and remained a gentleman to the end - he married a German lady and loved her till the day he passed. The point was only that there is human goodness everywhere, generally it's the psychopathic scum at the top who cause the rest of the world such pain. I wish you well, and sorry for what happened.
This need a lot more views especially in the current events in Ukraine
Perhaps so, especially if it were less inaccurate, as you may have gathered from the comments
The Ukrainians saw the Nazis as a better alternative to the hated Russians and that the war forced them to make wrong choices.
The Ukrainian civilians clubbed Jewish women and children to death.
“When they arrived at Leviatin, there were already two huge, wide-open pits ready to engulf them. The Ukrainian killers ordered the woman and children to undress and to go down into the pits. There was a spray of machinegun fire and screams, as the shouted orders of the killers blended with screams and cries of the women and children, their bodies still breathing and choking, became dust.”
How could the Ukrainians have been so evil. There are photos on google showing the Ukrainian killers smiling during the Pogroms.
Many people including myself could never ever have done such an evil act.
Today's Ukraine's Nationalistic flag is red&black meaning blut und boden meaning blood & soil/land. A ww2 German Nazi concept.
Chronicles of quiet Lviv 1941-1943:
- 1941 the entrance of the Wehrmacht to Lviv, greeting
- - humiliation of Jews and pogroms
- Jewish ghetto in Lviv
- 1943 volunteers in the Galician SS Division.
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@@Petal4822have you ever heard how Ukrainians slaughtered civil Polish population in Volhynia? What were their sadistic methods?
You are right in some areas, but you are also wrong in other areas. Hitler's interest in southern part of Soviet Union is the oil fields, and not agricultural products from Ukraine to feed the German populace. It was also to capture the port and naval base of Sebastopol in order to control the black sea. There are also a lot of areas where you have mistakenly taken a stand on. But my point has already been made so there is no need to go further into details of the other points of contention.
Southern oil only became an aim AFTER the failure to take Moscow and things turned protracted. That was the beginning of the end. Lebensraum came first. Ukraine is the jewel in the crown and Vlad thinks it's time to bag it for Moscow.
Look up "lebensraum" in your encyclopedia before you pretend to lecture others
One thing history teaches us is that historians, such as the one in this film, indeed can be right about some things, but one should not be too quick to agree or disagree with what they say, whether in part or in total . . . because to do so without being omniscient is always dicey.
The only rational decision I favor In regard to the Ukraine is one of neutrality.
The fact that there are significant Nazi or neo-Nazi militias/groups like Azov and the Right Sector etc. in the Ukraine that wield significant power and influence is what bothers me the most about our military support.
As many point out, the USA’s support for abusive, aggressive regimes like Saudi Arabia, or its support for the Israeli occupation of Palestine, or its attack on essential services like Iraqi water purification and power generation facilities during both the Clinton and Bush years (to name a few) disqualify the USA from making any kind of moral case for its role as a judge of Putin, or as part of an interventionist coalition.
(There are many, many other examples of the USA’s support for repressive regimes throughout the 20th and 21st century, as well as its own tolerance for corporate collusion with bad actors - such as IBM’s collaboration with the Nazi Holocaust to name just one of many, that also should disqualify the USA as a “force of good in the world”)
You might as well argue that Ted Bundy should have been a prosecutor of serial killers.
I love the quote that "History is the incomplete expounding upon the whole" I really thought that this tiny overview was nice and concise and dotted with key aspects of the historical context that most people are unaware of. To call him "wrong" seems unhelpful.
Have you read "Mein Kampf?" If so you know that Hitler wanted the Ukraine to be the "Bread basket of Germany."
The rush toward the Crimea was out of necessity. Hitler's Wermacht and war factories were out of oil.
Regardless, the populace of Ukraine was generally pro-Nazi. And the Russians suffered between three and five MILLION casualties pushing the Germans out of the Ukraine.
BTW Google the definition of Ukraine. It's English counterpart is, indeed, Frontier.
Seems as if Ukraine's soil is so rich from all of the blood and bodies in it.
forgettin that during WWII one million and six hundred jews were barbaric murdered by nazi Germany and the collaboration of the ukraine s gvt which till today they have not yet recognized and our victims are still waiting for justice not for vengeance or money....
Especially the polish people bodies and blood
Britain entered WW2 in 1939 NOT 1941.
On September 1, 1939, Hitler invaded Poland. On September 3, 1939, France and Britain
declared war on Germany, beginning the START of WW2.
German armies invaded and defeated Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland and France on 10 May 1940. After France surrendered on June 1940, Germany’s attention turned to Britain.
The Battle of Britain, 10 July 1940 - 31 October 1940, when the British RAF defeated the German Luftwaffe. Germany couldn’t defeat Britain without air superiority because it is an island.
Germany invaded Russia on 22 June 1941, for the Caucasus oil fields, Not for bread in Ukraine. The Ukrainians were Nazi collaborators and were wiling participants in the Pogroms.
All the atrocities… ????
All the buried bodies from all the massacres.
Read The Bloodlands by prof Snyder from Yale Uni. Some comments below are critical bc this talk is too short to explain the complex history of the region and horrific alliance between Stalin and Hitler.
Good to see these facts brought to light. My dad was a Pole who was taken away in Sep ‘39 as a forced labourer and ended up in a British Sherman ? He never told me how but just said there was too much to tell. But his history, together with so much of Eastern Europe, disappeared in the Cold War
My dad and his family were also in Siberia, big story to tell his great grandchildren
The Ukrainians sided with Germany, they were Nazi collaborators.
@@Petal4822 Some of them yes, but hardly all. Many fought in the Red Army. And of the collaborators, some were Nazi sympathisers, but many chose sides as they preferred the Germans to the soviets.
Ukrainians savegly.tortured and murdered more then 100 K of Polish nationals, mainly woman and children...Even the Nazi Germans were shocked seeing this...They would also.kill those of the Ukrainians who tried to hide the Polish nationals... They have never repented or apologised, Bandera, the leader of UPA is still being recognised as the national hero and his monuments are all over Ukraine...That was a genocide...
No one ever had to force my relatives to eat ice cream.
Excellent if far too short video. I think the historical perspective needs to go back to at least 1917 and the Soviet revolution as well as setting out the historical cultural difference between Ukrainians and Tsarist Russia that predate that.
From a modern perspective, if is very interesting to contrast Ukraine (and the Baltic States) with Belarus, which suffered even more significant damage than Ukraine during the war itself. Why has Putin's Russia managed to subsume Belarus whilst failing to the north and south.
Oh dear historian. No one in Britain thinks the war started in mid-1940. It was September 1939 and only happened then because Britain and France decided to make Poland the hill to start the fight against Hitler on.
Far from excellent!
@@netzoned what do you think the problems are then ?
Surely the Holodomor (only four years earlier) is also very relevant.
@@wessexdruid7598 1932 around 8-10 years after the end of the Russian Civil war and is undoubtedly a major reason why a number of Ukrainians fought with Hitler after 1941.
@@nickbrough8335 You are correct, 1932-1933, not lasting to 1935, as was in my memory. My error.
May I just say that, for Brits, WW2 started in September 1939, certainly not in 1941!
No you may not say that. For the first 2 years of the 'war' the Brits did nothing -learn some history as this guy suggests
@@TheSebiestor Hi. Firstly, the 'may I just say' was merely a use of a written convention in order to be courteous. It was not a request for permission, therefore your purported denial of permission is neither valid nor relevant.
Secondly, to say 'the Brits did nothing' for two years is absurd. Have a look at the Battle of Britain, simply to commence your study of this period, then at the support the Brits gave to Russia after the German invasion of June 1941.
There's so much else of course, but those two points alone will demolish what you wrote. As someone a bit silly once wrote, 'learn some history'.
@@ysgol3 i used to live next door to a merchant salior who was twice sunk delivering munitions and food to Russia in that period.
My mother endured the Bltz in London.
The Royal Navy ruled the waves...my Father was in the Meditteranean Fleet when the French naval ships were sunk.
My Great Uncle fought in Burma as a Sergeant Major. And my Aunts husband was on the Burma Railway as a prisoner.
My Godfather was at Monte Casino. My Grandfathers employee helped liberate Belsen.
Theres some history Iearnt as a baby boomer from men who were there and certainly did a lot for other nations.
@@buddhastaxi666 Hi, thank you for such a fascinating reply.
I hope the person to whom I replied after he or she daftly wrote that 'the Brits did nothing' in the first two years of the war reads it too!
@@TheSebiestor This is untrue, both France and the UK declared war on Germany.
This is a matter of public record.
What makes these Ukrainian pogroms so shocking and horrific is that they happened in the 1940’s, in the midst of a civilised Europe, not back in the barbaric dark ages of history..
I think we are still in the barbaric dark ages of history..
What is the most tragic Polish civilans were hiding from Ukrainians under Russians and German troops.They were boths shocked of Ukrainians cruelity against woman and children.
How convenient to make Ukrainians the evel. The nation than suffered the most from all the regimes: soviet, polish, german. It’s so convenient to beat the weakest
Even during first actions of Holocaust (Babi Yar - killing 30,000 + people) there were lots of Ukrainian volunteers who willingly participated in the killing. Also lots of Ukrainian volunteers participated in anti-partisan and anti-insergents actions in the neighboring Belarus, killing lots of innocent civilians. There is a well known story about massacre in the Belarussian village Khatyn where almost entire village population where killed with active participation of the Ukrainian volunteers.
Indeed there were major battles fought in Ukraine both during German offensive in 1941 and 1942 as well as during USSR's offensive in 1944. Civilians suffered a lot. But the Red army itself was combined from people drafted from the entire USSR (there were Ukrainians there too), it is USSR who defeated Germans in Ukraine.
The Nachtigall Battalion (English: Nightingale Battalion), also known as the Ukrainian Nightingale Battalion Group (German: Bataillon Ukrainische Gruppe Nachtigall), or officially as Special Group Nachtigall,[1] was the subunit under command of the German Abwehr special operations unit Lehrregiment "Brandenburg" z.b.V. 800. Along with the Roland Battalion it was one of two military units formed February 25, 1941 by head of the Abwehr Wilhelm Franz Canaris, which sanctioned the creation of the "Ukrainian Legion" under German command. It was composed of volunteer Ukrainians operating under Stephan Bandera's Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) orders.[2]
All true but more Ukrainians by far fought with the Red Army. The far right are a dangerous coercive force in the Ukraine, not the majority. The war has fed toxic nationalism on both sides. Only the US gains.
@@casteretpollux True. Moreover, among those about 1 million people from USSR who collaborated with Nazis Ukrainians where not the only ethnic group. Majority of those people joined Germans to feed their families or just to survive.
Those volunteers who fought for Germany were not the majority. The issue is that how come all of a sudden those people appeared in the political mainstream at all?
From my experience: I had relatives in western Ukraine, friends in all part of it, travelled across Ukraine for work and vacation, had lots of personal interactions with people of all ethnic groups, Russian and Ukrainian native speakers, some where Ukrainian nationalists who responded only in Ukrainian.
Some of them did not hesitate to show discontent with the Soviet political and economical system, mentioned Stalin's deportations before and after the war.
But I have never heard anyone who would be happy to have connections with volunteers who were willingly fighting for Nazis, not to mention German managed police forces. So leveraging those guys in all post-Soviet countries seems to be artificial.
Looks like these "Ukrainian Studies" institutions are part of that problem.
@@casteretpollux Thank you, Katharine, for your reply. I absolutely agree with your conclusion about nationalism on both sides of the conflict and especially about the “beneficiaries” of it- USA
Hitler kill them people because first of all he thought they was Jews he thought the people he had in his control was Jews until he found out they was not Jews and then most of them people had diseases that man kept them people so tightly in close places.in the camps, they caught all kind of skin rashes bugs was eating them up. They had bugs in the head you notice how he cut their hair they didn't kept clean and half of them was starving to death.the neo Nazi have taken over Ukraine and Putin want his part of the land and run them KKK out. Why did the US president step in so fast what he had to gain,by sending all that weaponry over there.someone wanted the KKK to stay in that lane.
FYI...WWII started for Britain in September 1939 with the invasion of Poland, and not 1941 as stated in your video. The Blitz was in 1940 and ended in the Autumn of 1940 when the RAF, in the Battle of Britain, defeated the Luftwaffe.
WWII began for the ancestors of the British (Germans) in 1936 with Manchuria (Manchukuo).
Somehow the British didn't get involved in the war until much later. Poles pleaded for help that didn't come. Later on Polish pilots defended Britain.
@@renataoldziej5405 but Poland is the other side of Germany to Britain. No way of getting there directly. Troop ships would be sunk and aircraft shot down.
Britain entered WW2 in 1939 NOT 1941.
On September 1, 1939, Hitler invaded Poland. On September 3, 1939, France and Britain
declared war on Germany, beginning the START of WW2.
German armies invaded and defeated Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland and France on 10 May 1940. After France surrendered on June 1940, Germany’s attention turned to Britain.
The Battle of Britain, 10 July 1940 - 31 October 1940, when the British RAF defeated the German Luftwaffe. Germany couldn’t defeat Britain without air superiority because it is an island.
Germany invaded Russia on 22 June 1941, for the Caucasus oil fields, Not for bread in Ukraine. The Ukrainians were Nazi collaborators and were wiling participants in the Pogroms.
from 1939 ukrainians who were polish citizens mordered polish citizens who were polish...just one instance, WOLYN, july 11,1943.
and collaborated to murder thousand of jews by collaborating with the nazi germany today totally forgotten.... m df
Yes and hundreds of thousands of Ukranians also died by the hands of Polish nationalists. 40% of the Soviet army was Ukranian, and more than 200k Russians fought for the Germans.
So russia divided Poland with Hitler, russians killed more than 8 millions of ukrainians, russians killed 3 millions of Kazakhstan people, russians killed 300 thousands of Crimean tatars, 500 thousands of Chechens, tens of thousands of Poles(Kathryn and other massacres).........
And you are trying to frame Ukraine as an "villain nation" just because of Bybyn Yar tragedy, that was orcestreted by SS, Germans, and the most radical ukrainian collaborators...
Also, don't forget that what happened in Volunie was as much of a horrible crime as what Poles(Armia Krayowa) and Polish SS did during Operation Wisla to Ukrainians and what Armia Krayowa did to tens of thousands of peaceful Ukrainians during ethic cleanings...
So in the end of the day, russia killed like 150 times more peaceful people than Ukraine.
That's why Poland helps Ukraine and prepares to be ready to new coming of ruSSia's "peasful world".
Also, you forgot to mention that despite some ukrainian collaborators there were ten times more families that hided jew's kids and after the war raised them as their own...
Germans preferred Ukraines to Poles, and used the former to eliminate the later. There were too many Slavic peoples. Part of Generalplan Ost and Lebansbaum.
In the annexed areas of Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania by Poland (before WWII), did the population speak polish or their native languages?
Ukraine sided with the Nazis when the Soviets were pushed eastward.
You do know that more Ukrainians were in the Red Army than there were supporting the Nazis and there were Russians who supported the Nazis
The author's claim that Ukraine was Hitler's objective contradicts Hitler's own statements about the plan Barbarossa's objective.
holy hitler could not tell a lie, eh?
This idiot hates russia so much that he makes crackpot history about hitler wanting Ukraine just to spit russia.
This man snyder can only be understood in the context of russophobia.
Even In this little video he said that jews were not bothered by the Invading nazis entering Ukraine and that the soviet union was worse .
The first country to ban antisemitism in the world was so bad that nazis were not seen as worse.
This is the type of shit that This man spews.
My father was in the Army in WWII. Even he most likely didn't understand the situation.
But I am sure he, RIP, would be rolling his grave at the present situation.
I am appalled that this is is happening today and at the provocation of the US.
As an Australian I am outraged at your assertion that the US is blameworthy for the barbarian Putin and his delusions concerning goddess Russia of yore.
The US did not break up the USSR, it fragmented by the choices of the various people whose ancient homelands were spread throughout it and who threw off the tyrannical grip of the Communist nightmare.
@@Pacdoc-oz but the ukraine s gvt should recognized its past collaboration with the nazi by murdering thousand of jews as till today they have not and the victims of my relatives are still waiting for justice not for veangence or money....
Have no fear, people do not roll in their graves. Do you SERIOUSLY believe that Putin was 'obliged' to invade Ukraine on account of US policy? Let the man take responsibility for his OWN decisions, since he rejects the counsel and appeals of others. Putin may be wedded to Xi's ambition via their 'unlimited partnership', he may satan's dupe, but he is NOT a puppet of US/EU/NATO.
If someone provokes us to anger in public and we slug him, and there are witnesses, we are still accountable before the law. We may still be tried and convicted of assault. We cannot say that we were 'made to do it'.
Did you not hear Putin's speech on the eve of the invasion? He denied Ukraine's right to exist as a nation. It was an expression of absolute contempt. No wonder that Ukrainian public opinion has hardened considerably. Prior to that speech and the invasion, a negotiated territorial compromise still seemed remotely possible. Russian atrocities and brinkmanship have made it presently impossible.
Guess what? The USA is NOT the centre of the universe.
When US politicians lift the phrase 'city set on a hill' from Matthew 5:14, they are
VIOLATING the sense of Scripture.
Scripture makes no reference to America at all.
Sometimes big nations suffer from a 'messianic complex'. There is only one Messiah, JESUS:
(Psalm 2:6)
'But as for Me, I have installed My King upon Zion, My holy mountain.'
If anything the US had been too apathetic about Ukraine. Russia invaded in 2014. And 2008. US barely did anything then. Russia was emboldened. This frankly seems suspiciously close to russian trolls which seem to be everywhere spewing the same lies.
I believe that you dishonor his memory and his sacrifice (and many others for that matter!) by your treacherous stance. I think you are right; he probably would be rolling over in his grave, but not for the reasons you think.
Excuse me, for Britain the 2nd World War started in September 1939 when Germany invaded Poland.
How many bombs english drop on germans heads in this september 1939 ? Probably ZERO.
Dave Watson. It may have started for Britain in September 1939 but except for a period of no more than 3 weeks Britain had no land forces on the continent until June 1944. Possibly they did not want to muddy their boots so they let the Soviets fight the war.
@@aesop8694 Mr Aesop, I would not for a moment deny that the soviet Union did the bulk of the fighting in Europe for some years but Dunkirk was was 9 months after the start, by which time the British and Commonwealth forces were engaged in North Africa against first the Italians then the Germans, in Greece march to June 1940 and then in Italy and France from1943, not to mention a huge naval conflict the whole time and a long and bitter campaign in the far East. During this time Britain was bombed continuously and massively as well. Malta never fell.
@@davewatson309 With all due respect I would not consider British retreats and defeats to numerically inferior forces as being evidence of Britains contribution to WW2.
The period from September 1939 to approx the 10th May 1940 was known as the phoney war.
There after less than 2 weeks of engaging the Germans in battle, the BEF retreated to Dunkirk and were then evacuated to Britain 26th May - 4th June 1940. This evacuation was called both a miracle and a victory. Did you know that Hitler was instrumental in the success of the evacuation?
Check your history, Greece had already defeated the Italians well prior to the British victories in Africa.
As regards Greece and Crete Britain was there in name only. They arrived in Greece too late and took positions 100 miles from the Germans to give them time to retreat.
Crete was a British disaster right from the start. Successive British generals that were sent to prepare the defences of the Island failed to do so and once again a numerically inferior German force won the battle of Crete.
Churchill said of Sicily that he believed that the allies had landed a Tiger on the beaches to fight the Germans only to find that the tiger was but a pussycat. The rest is history the Germans remained in Italy until wars end while Montgomery and Paton in their vanity held parades.
The war in Asia was no different the leader of the combined allied forces Lieutenant-General Percival was bluffed into surrendering to a much smaller Japanese force.
Look there is no criticism intended on the bravery of the British fighting man, however one must question the competence of their military leaders.
Britain entered WW2 in 1939 NOT 1941.
On September 1, 1939, Hitler invaded Poland. On September 3, 1939, France and Britain
declared war on Germany, beginning the START of WW2.
German armies invaded and defeated Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland and France on 10 May 1940. After France surrendered on June 1940, Germany’s attention turned to Britain.
The Battle of Britain, 10 July 1940 - 31 October 1940, when the British RAF defeated the German Luftwaffe. Germany couldn’t defeat Britain without air superiority because it is an island.
Germany invaded Russia on 22 June 1941, for the Caucasus oil fields, Not for bread in Ukraine. The Ukrainians were Nazi collaborators and were wiling participants in the Pogroms.
Thank you for your excellent review and analysis.
In Britain we are taught that the the second world war begins in 1939 with the invasion of Poland and not 1941 as you stated.
Another way to say it is that the Nazis needed a breadbasket. The Nazis needed rich farmland. And they wanted room to expand.
They are all working together. My opinion
I read the book "harvest of despair" a few months ago would that be pretty accurate?
If Britain and France had a defence pact with Poland, and both Germany and Russia invaded Poland, why did Britain and France declare war against Germany only?
Good question
I'll take a stab at this one. I read somewhere that Britain and France realistically could not take on Stalin and Hitler simultaneously, so they chose to fight the more immediate threat to the European continent and thus their (until then) hegemony: Hitler. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend", as they say. It was a brief marriage of convenience that barely lasted until the end of WW2. That's how I understand it....
I'd love to know why, he thinks Hitler was so obsessed with Moscow, and Stalingrad, and then to focus on the south, if Hitler's, "real", objective was to take over the Ukraine.
I'm not a professional historian, but I'm also not a professor of Astronomy, and yet still have reason to accept that the moon is not made of cheese.
As for the sillyness that, "The British want to have it start in 1941" (1:10), referring to WW2, I'd love to know why he thinks that, as I'm "British", 67 years old, and was always taught it started in 1940, with the pre-cursor, (not being international, and therefore not the start of World War), in 1939.
That was although we were never told about the Russian invasion, or the Molotov Ribbentrop pact
John Somebody
As a historian I'm a nobody, but here is a suggestion regarding the strategic importance of Ukraine. Controlling it thoroughly might open up an avenue to the
Caucasus, and via to the Caucasus to the Middle East.
Apparently a few German troops did advance to somewhere around Grozny, which is past Ukraine and a sort of gateway to the Caucasus, before turning back.
The port of Baku in Azerbaijan, on the Caspian Sea, was one of the world's great hubs of oil production, coveted by all major powers. Further south lay the oil fields of Iran and Mesopotamia (Iraq), eventually the Persian Gulf and Arabia itself. To control the main arteries of oil supply would have been an Unholy Grail
for Hitler's forces. Had a hook-up been [possible with the Japanese to the east..........
Fortunately that was NOT possible. Sometimes I wonder why God permitted the USSR to survive as long as it did. He is merciful. I guess that still worse evil would have ensued had the Axis powers won.
How could Britain have entered the war in 1941 when my great grandfather, a pilot was captured in 1940 by the Germans in Dunkirk when his plane was shot down.
He was put in a Stalag POW camp in Poland for five years until his release in 1945.
@@Petal4822
Regardless what happened to your grandfather (and thank God that he survived), Britain was involved in the war from September 3,1939 onwards.
However if you mean that British forces did not have a free hand to operate at will in every theatre of war, you are certainly correct. I don't think that any combatant had quite that capacity, although the Japanese came close in 1941, which made them exceptionally dangerous.
The Ukrainians and the Poles saw Hitler as a better alternative to the hated Stalin. Hitler classed the Slavic race as sub-human and put them just above the Jews. The Nazis forced them into slave labor factories with starvation rations.
@@Petal4822
Tragically, Hitler did see things that way. Btw Slavs are NOT a race.
People often confuse 'race' and LANGUAGE. Of course all the Slavic languages are related, being part of the larger Indo-European group which includes tongues as diverse as Gaelic, Greek, and Bengali.
Old-fashioned concepts of 'race', originating in 19th-century Romanticism, have been blown out of the water by modern DNA science, among other things. However aspects of Romantic thought do seem to persist in conservative Russia (e.g. in the philosophy of Alexander Dugin).
Most Europeans nations, and Jews also, contain elements from various sub-races all mixed up together. 'Purity' only exists in isolated which have remained separate from the rest of humanity for thousands of years, and most of those isolates have now disappeared.
Very relevant, especially today, Feb 24, 2022.
Mental gymnastics of the highest order.
Tell a lie loud enough and long enough and people will believe it.
Are you really one educated historian or just one “TH-cam historian” who learned history from other TH-camrs?
Very interesting…appreciate this.
A division of Ukraine soldiers drawn from the Ukraine Church which is "Under The Pope", while using Orthodox Liturgy( a very confusing history is behind that) Had surrendered to the Brits,,(I believe) and were going to be turned over to the Soviets, were rescued from that fate by the direct intervention of Pius XII and the Vatican
Yes, they were send to UK and after to Canada and USA. Many of them were nazis and US used them as skys against Russia ( Like Mykoła Lebed).
Here is full story
th-cam.com/video/UB_Gs-0dhOo/w-d-xo.html
Like every family in the world, opinions differ. In Ukraine, families were split between Hitler's ideology which is still alive to this day and the Russian heritage. Brittan, France and the US, could have easily sent troops to Russia to to attack Hiter from the east. Saving millions of lives. Instead the Allies decided to make lots of money instead.
LOL another looney that has no idea. The idea that Stalin would have welcomed an Western Army of several million men in the Soviet Union is laughable. In any case, we did not then have the logistical capacity to transport and them support than many men at that distance from the UK. As it was petrol shortages and air cover were major issues during 1944 as the advance extended away from the supply bases in Normandy. It was not until the large French ports (Marseille and Bordeaux) and the Belgium/Dutch ports were reopened (in 1945) that logistic issues started to decline for the allied force in NW Europe.
Thank you for writing this for all to see. The endless arrogant and condescending Western BS on how they saved the day just makes me sick. There is not even a drop of acknowledgement of the horror and suffering that people from Ukraine, Russia and Belarus went through.
@@ottilie9711 Why ? It is so much historical nonsense and well as being a complete fabrication.
The war in France and Germany started in 9/39, whilst both Stalin and the Roosevelt sat in comfort minding their own business. Of course Roosevelt became a great supporter of the UK proving loans for the UK to buy weapons from US factories, but they certainly hedged their bets until the Battle of Britain was won (JFK"s father had quite a bit to do with that). The UK gave up almost all of its foreign exchange reserves and financial investments in the US to fund this. Lend Lease support (basically sale or return basis) came later.
The UK barely had the troops to fight in North Africa, where we were often losing, after the Greek invasion in Spring 1941. The Home Army has been evacuated from Northern France (along with a large number of French troops. most of whom returned to France after the surrender) but without any of its equipment (tanks, artillery., vehicles, ammunition etc).
France (the largest military power in pre-War Europe) had already been beaten before Russia was even invaded. Stalin even ignored warnings from Churchill and his own spy network before the Russian invasion commenced. Thats how much he trusted the UK.
Neither would Stalin have allowed it. Just go and read how the Lancaster bomber crews from 617 squadron were treated on landing in Russia after the attack on th e Tirpitz or the Royal and Merchant Navy crews were confined to their ships on arrival at Murmansk and Archangel on the Russian convey route.
Do you know the UK and US provide Russian with around 7,000 tanks, numerous jeeps and other vehicles (300,000 or so from the US), raw materials such as rubber and difficult to obtain alloys, including 15,000 aircraft provide by the US and a further 7,400 from the UK (3,000 of which were bought from the Americans). This contribution to the Red Army was rarely recognised though. Allied supplied equipment was removed from Russian wartime images though. Apart from the small quantity of material that was returned after the war ended, this military aid was given for FREE.
Whilst preparing for the D-Day invasion of June 1944, the allies also invaded mainland Italy (after taking Sicily) in summer 1943 and did not have sufficient forces to beat even a small German occupying force of about 500,000 men.
Of course, 40 % of US forces were deployed to fight on two fronts against the Japanese empire, with limited support from the UK and Australia and no support at all from Stalin's Russia. In fact the only Russian activity in the Pacific was to invade Japanese islands off the Russian coast after Japan had already been defeated, but before their official surrender. Russia still occupies this territory today.
The final point is what money was made out of WW2. The UK only finished paying off the loans in 2006 and also endured WW2 style rationing until 1954, almost10 years after the end of the war itself. The US became the richest economy in the world based on its manufacturing might not out of war profiteering although they did make money from the UK between 9/39 and 12/41, before we became allies in a joint war against Germany and Japan.
During the war the events on the eastern front and the sacrifices made by the Red Army were very well know and there was massive UK and French support for the Russian people. However, it was Stalin that decided to occupy eastern Europe and turn it into his sphere of Interest. The only countries the west occupied were West Germany, Japan and Italy and then not for that long. Stalin chose to make the Soviet Union the enemy of the west for his own purposes. The cold war was his creation as much as anyone else.
@@nickbrough8335 superb post, though is 500,000 really a small force?
@@aafgahfah In the context of WW2, yes, but 500,000 men is stall a massive number. My recollection may be off slightly, but I recall reading that the UK/US Strategic bombing campaigns resulted in around 2 million German men being tied up in the anti-aircraft defence of Germany. The fear of European invasion through 43/44 alongside the sabotage and resistance support from the SOE and OSS would have also ensure Germany had to keep larger forces in Europe.
I also played down British and Empire forces fighting japan on the Indian Border and then through Burma and the Australian in in Papua New Guinea and the Philippines, which kept UK empire forces out of Europe theatre.
Whilst none of us should minimise the achievement of the Red Army, the Allies fought on five fronts in 1944 (Atlantic, Bombing, Africa/Italy, France and Japan) not only engaging large German forces, but also tying down large forces in Germany and Occupied Europe, which could otherwise been deployed on the eastern Front. The equipment and raw materials aid much strengthen the Red Army and Russian manufacturing capability which certainly benefited the Red Army very significantly. That this contribution is seen as nothing much by some ignorant people is shocking really.
A lot of people commenting from all different angles would benefit from actually reading the book instead of going off on the 6.5 minute video that talks about part of what the book is about
Bloodlands, by Timothy Snyder. A classic.
Noone suffered more that Russians. The lost 27 million people in WW2, which is almost a half of the total deaths.
Because of Stalin. Sorry Soviets invaded Poland in 17 September 1939. Now historians provided better statistics for Polish losses. We lost 12 million people of 38 million of the whole population. You canceled our passports for millions of Poles and other nations, and made them Russians, you moved thousands to Syberia and Kazakhstan, simply leaving them in the nowhere or put in concentration camp ( lagry). Your sick leaders and politics murdered millions of innocent people. Your statistics are also fake, like all communistic statistics. Maybe in near future after some changes in your leadership you will know more true data.
@@urszulau.7687 You cannot place any blame on Mira, You keep saying your leaders, we don't really have a choice in our leaders, therfore they are not really our leaders, just a bunch of criminals running the world, causing trouble for the likes of you and me and Mira.
Polish leaders could have allowed Germany to annex the Polish corridor, It belonged to Germany pre WW1, Germany tried many times with emissaries to Poland, but Poland colluded with Britain and ignored Germany,s request, thus starting WW2. Yeah well done Poland.
Europe should be grateful to the US and Britain, we liberated your cowardly countries in WW2.
NOT russians RATHER the 15 republics of the USSR ALL TOGETHER LOST 23 MILLION. Of that total UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE
UKRAINE concrete undebatable facts from RUSSIAN, NOT Ukrainian archives, which were briefly opened under Boris Yeltsin in 1992 but then quickly re-sealed by Putin:
ONE MILLION RUSSIANS FOUGHT IN NAZI GERMAN UNIFORM IN WWII. OF THESE, 130,000- that 's one hundred thirty thousand RUSSIANS, fought in German Nazi Waffen SS units in WWII. The greatest contingent of foreign WAFFEN SS VOLUNTEERS WAS...RUSSIAN!
Yet, the Neo Nä/zi CRIMINAL RUSSIANS continue to defame UKRAINE, smearing the entire Ukrainian people as "Näs/is! RUSSIANS WHO STATE IS A NAZI DICTATORSHIP IN ALL ASPECTS, call the legitimate elected democratic government of Ukraine a näsi Junta! At this very moment the russian parliament is 87% neo-näz/i, ultra right, nationalist- such as putin's very own brown shirt party "United Russia" formerly run by the self proclaimed neo-näsi Zhirinovsky, Putins dead buddy.
Simply google up the russian parliament's own website to find this out in two minutes.
Putin's spiritual Guru is Alexander Dugin, the self proclaimed neo-näz/i who passionately calls upon putin to carry out a FOURTH RUSSIAN GENOCIDE AGAINST THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE and wipe them out entirely this time, where both lenin and stalin failed in this exact very plan.
Only TWO NATIONS ON EARTH HAVE A JEWISH PRESIDENT & defense minister (and until 2020 consecutively also a Jewish prime minister)- ISRAEL and....?....UKRAINE!
UKRAINE and its people LITERALLY GAVE MORE BLOOD THAN ANY NATION ON EARTH TO SAVE THE JEWISH PEOPLE from the Holocaust. UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE IN WWII!!!!!!
CHURCHILL WROTE THAT GERMANY WAS DEFEATED IN UKRAINE BY UKRAINIANS WHERE THE ENTIRE EASTERN FRONT OCCURRED AS OF 1943
There are 2240 UKRAINIANS honored among the RIGHTEOUS in Jerusalem for giving their lives to save Jews in WWII. There are a mere 220 “russians”. Let no one ever again serve you the libel, the SMEAR that Ukrainians are “anti-semites.”
It is acknowledged that tens of thousands more UKRAINIANS were murdered by russians and Germans before they could be documented and recognized as “Righteous among the Nations.”
THERE WERE 1000. 000 russian nazi collaborators in German Nazi in WWIIuniform 45 TIMES MORE THAN UKRAINIANS.
France, Holland, Estonia, etc had FAR MORE - (and IDEOLOGICALLY CONVINCED TRUE NAZI SS COLLABORATORS than Ukraine. Ukrainians allied with Germany unwillingly to save UKRAINE from the russian socialist genocidal meat grinder.
PEOPLE IGNORE the giant MASTODON in the room- ALL THE ALLIES COLLABORATED WITH....? A FAR MORE GENOCIDAL REGIME- WITH SOCIALIST RUSSIA. Yet not a single word is ever whispered in this regard.
UKRAINE’S CONTRIBUTION TO THE DEFEAT OF NAZI GERMANY AND the AXIS CAN NEVER BE OVERRATED. AS CHURCHILL WROTE, GERMANY WAS DEFEATED IN UKRAINE, BY UKRAINIANS (NOT IN “RUSSIA”).
67% of All German forces (all German forces worldwide, not just on the Eastern front) including elite and SS troops were fighting & were DESTROYED in… UKRAINE, not in some “russia” or elsewhere.
1st UKRAINAN FRONT
2nd UKRAINAN FRONT
3rd UKRAINAN FRONT
4th UKRAINAN FRONT
5th UKRAINAN FRONT
comprising 7.4 million troops THAT’S SEVEN-POINT-FOUR-MILLION UKRAINIAN NOT “Russian” TROOPS DEFEATED GERMANY and saved a certain “Russia” and the USSR FROM GERMANY.
Ukrainians constituted about 24% of the Armed Forces of the USSR, or 8 million troops, yet UKRAINIANS were always at the very front. Russians came behind the first Ukrainian waves. The mass rapes of women were carried out by russians coming after the first waves made up almost exclusively of Ukrainians as of 1943.
UUKRAINIANS SAVED RUSSIA’S Nazi A$$ in WWII & still today the RUSSIAN GENOCIDAL NEO NAZIS DEFAME UKRAINE
UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE IN THIS WAR OUT OF A SOVIET TOTAL OF 23 MILLION. (8 million military and 6 million civilian).
WHICH MEANS THAT ALL THE OTHER 14 REPUBLICS OF THE USSR ALL TOGETHER LOST A TOTAL OF 9 MILLION PEOPLE.
UKRAINE SAVED "russia's" backside in WWII and carried out the VAST MAJORITY of the defeat of Germany. It would have done so without the allied D-Day invasion.
YET NEVER A WORD IS SPOKEN OF UKRAINE IN WWII, only the word, "russia, russia, russia, russia..."
UKRAINE ALONE LOST 150% OF WHAT THE FIFTEEN OTHER SOVIET “REPUBLICS” LOST ALL TOGETHER
1. Armenian SSR (Soviet Socialist Republic)
2. Azerbaijan SSR
3. Byelorussian SSR
4. Estonian SSR
5. Georgian SSR
6. Kazakh SSR
7. Kyrgyz SSR
8. Latvian SSR
9. Lithuanian SSR
10. Moldavian SSR
11. Russian SFSR (Soviet Federal Socialist Republic)
12. Tajik SSR
13. Turkmen SSR
14. Ukrainian SSR
15. Uzbek SSR
The USSR LOST A TOTAL OF 23 MILLION PEOPLE. UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE.
THIS MEANS THAT ALL THE OTHER SOVIET REPUBLICS plus “russia” LOST 9 MILLION PEOPLE IN TOTAL…
WHEREAS UKRAINE ALL ALONE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE.
UKRAINE, AS OF LATE 1942 WAS THE WORLD’S EPICENTER OFWORLD WAR II.
As of 1943 UKRAINE WAS THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY OF GERMANY IN WWII …AS HITLER ORDERED.
7200 UKRAINIAN TOWNS AND VILLAGES WERE RAZED TO THE EARTH. …THAT’S SEVEN-THOUSAND-TWO HUNDRED…
World War two in Europe was essentially a genocidal Tsunami which devastated exclusively UKRAINE, NOT “russia” from West to East (up to Stalingrad on Ukraine’s eastern border) and back again from East to West. (It slightly overflowed Ukraine's northern border at Kursk) As this wave rolled back westward the Germans razed 7,200 Ukrainian towns and villages. They and their populations were obliterated…
Yet IGNORAMUSES in the GERMAN GOVERNMENT want to APPEASE "russia" by slitting Ukraine's throat from behind and tossing it to "russia" out of eternal generational guilt for what they did to...(not Ukraine) but rather to the rogue, mafia, illegitimate, unelected, oligarchial, neo-nä/zi DICTATORSHIP of "russia."
@@vancouveruzbekistan5350 I have never encountered such a concentration of hate and disinformation on a single page. I cringe just by thinking where and by whom you were "educated." Thankfully, Ukraine and Russia are showing in real time what they stand for. The new multipolar world is growing on the "compost" of decaying neo-imperialism. Hate devours the haters, not the hated.
I think both the British and French know exactly when WW2 started because we declared war on Germany the 3rd of September 1939.
And entered a period called Phoney War
Prof Snyder is brilliant
It all boils down to greed while people struggle just to make it thru each we weep for people while governments have their own corporate agenda
Why all this bullshit?
Why citing the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact as being the start of WW2 yet omit that Britain and France had rejected an earlier proposal from Stalin to form a tripartite pact against Hitler?
Why have you forgotten Britains treachery of Czechoslovakia allowing the Nazis to invade this land and emboldened them to start WW2? Oh yes, it was so that Chamberlain could return victoriously from Germany with a piece of paper proclaiming that he had achieved "Peace in our time".
Why have you ignored the fact that most of the Ukrainians that allied themselves and committed atrocities with the Nazis came from the Western regions of Ukraine?
Don't bother answering it's obvious that you are in the employment of those trying to rewrite history.
Absolutely right.
Ukraine is Ukraine.
Dunkirk also seems a little weird, surely Hitler could’ve chosen to destroy the British forces but didn’t - strange. We don’t see any allies enter the war from the west until the Russians start pushing Westbound years later....
Thank you for making those points.
@@БрусЛи-м3ю Gutless lying bastards that hid safely in Britain until the 6th June 1944 after Soviet forces had the Nazis in full retreat.
Churchill the Treacherous Toad that he was, deliberately withheld the invasion of Europe after having promised Stalin that the attack would occur in 1942
- This bastard was also the person who proposed to Stalin where the Iron Curtain should fall on Europe.
- The cause of over 500,000 deaths in Greece due to starvation and the Civil war.
- The instigator of a plan to drop atomic bombs on Russia.
The advocat for The Cold War.
The list goes on and on for this War Criminal.
Thank you
The map is misleading - it shows Transnistria on present day Moldova, when Transnistria did not even exist back then. What else is misleading, I wonder...
Politely, Transnistria did exist back then. The borders have changed throughout this region over time, especially regarding fought over territories such as this. It’s been under the umbrella of different countries and names, but the province existed in one form or another. I commented to say though, the inclusion of it specifically on this map is to signify its importance as an Axis controlled territory. I think you might be misreading it as an autonomous state/country equal in weight to that of adjacent Slovakia for example and thinking about it in regards to current status & issues. This a German War map, not a universally accepted map of the time. Slovakia doesn’t have ‘Reichskommissariat’ above it because they were a willing ally and not a forcefully occupied territory. This whole area (including Germany, but especially eastward) was a big mess over border disputes and change in control of territories for a long time. Not just where Nazi or Soviet control is concerned, but amongst themselves for ages. Sorry to be pedantic if you know that already.
But so moving on, the German government was very administrative and didn’t just occupy but set up new ‘administrations’ (like German provisional government statehood names) as it expanded control. Hence Reichskomissariat Ostland and Reichskomissariat Ukraine.
Re Transnistria- the landmass known as such was part of the Moldavian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic from 1924-1940. Then it fell under Romanian control from 1941-1944. But more specifically than just being under Romanian control, it is likely referring to the ‘Transnistria Governorate’, which was a Romanian-administered territory that had its own specific land/borders. (Again with the administrations.)
I don’t know your nationality/knowledge/exposure, but Romania is vastly underplayed as a vital and significant Axis ally (from my American experience). This map is zoomed in and limited, but Transnistria (as in the Axis Governorate) was of great importance on the German chessboard re invasion of Ukraine and as a key positional point on the front against the USSR. A pivotal fought over territory in the war. (Unfortunately, also substantial with Holocaust atrocities.) All that just to put into context why it’s relevant on this map and natural to be alongside the others here, particularly in relation to WW2 conflict affecting Ukraine.
Forgive me. I’m a nerd who can’t sleep. I don’t mean anything argumentatively and didn’t agree with everything that was said in the video as far as scope/weight. But if you have interest in the region just thought it might be helpful. Could easily understand confusion given the modern breakaway republic combined with the fact that most everyone posting content has some kind of agenda or at least bias lean, and I’ve had to be so dissecting of basic info & images being shown myself.
History is there to tell us that Nazi Gremany and the Soviet Union in August 1939 signed a nonagression pact(not allies) which Gremany broke with operation Barbarossa. Russian death toll WW2 27,000,000 killed. Ukranian WW2 death toll 4,000,000 killed. Largest battle and turning point off WW2 battle of Salingrad, Soviet Union. Largest tank battle WW2, battle of Kursk, Soviet Union.
🤦♂?! my polish-ukrainian gran,aunt4yrs old& mother 6yrs were all sent to slave-death camps in Siberia as my grandad& great uncles were in the polish airforce&army fighting Nazis, then Stalins ally!, mum only survived as Hitler invaded his ally Stalin who approached Hitler to form his pact!. We had Russian relatives too& Russians paid a great price, but Russias death toll& that of soviet empire are vdifferent!, all deaths on the eastern front were as much due to fascistic dictators like Stalin as Hitler.😖
James Gruen
I beg to differ with your description of the pact, because Germany invaded Poland on Sept. 1, and on Sept. 17 the USSR did the same. The two powers did NOT come to blows over this matter. This implies some degree of collaboration/collusion/cooperation/alliance. I think the left hand knew what the right hand was doing, or vice versa.
The odd thing about this arrangement is that poor Finland got dumped into the 'Axis' camp after the fact, because it had to defend itself against Soviet attack.
Meanwhile a halo was depicted around Stalin's head because Hitler attacked him.
But they were birds of a feather.
I once read that Stalin was initially devastated by Hitler's betrayal.
Don't try to save the reputation of the USSR. It was founded upon evil and atheistic rebellion.
'The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." '
27 millions of 15 repablics of USSR were killed, not just russians, it's total number of losses, what are you talking about?
Europe should be grateful to the US and Britain, we liberated your cowardly countries in WW2.
The Ukrainians sided with Germany, they were Nazi collaborators.
Pity that nowadays the historian changed his mind and judging people and juggling history .
So Ukraine lost more people than the 27 million people Russia lost? I don't think so.
UKRAINE concrete undebatable facts from RUSSIAN, NOT Ukrainian archives, which were briefly opened under Boris Yeltsin in 1992 but then quickly re-sealed by Putin:
NOT " RUSSIA" but the 15 republics of the USSR lost a total of 23 million. Of that total. Ukraine alone lost 14 million.
ONE MILLION RUSSIANS FOUGHT IN NAZI GERMAN UNIFORM IN WWII. OF THESE, 130,000- that 's one hundred thirty thousand RUSSIANS, fought in German Nazi Waffen SS units in WWII. The greatest contingent of foreign WAFFEN SS VOLUNTEERS WAS...RUSSIAN!
Yet, the Neo Nä/zi CRIMINAL RUSSIANS continue to defame UKRAINE, smearing the entire Ukrainian people as "Näs/is! RUSSIANS WHO STATE IS A NAZI DICTATORSHIP IN ALL ASPECTS, call the legitimate elected democratic government of Ukraine a näsi Junta! At this very moment the russian parliament is 87% neo-näz/i, ultra right, nationalist- such as putin's very own brown shirt party "United Russia" formerly run by the self proclaimed neo-näsi Zhirinovsky, Putins dead buddy.
Simply google up the russian parliament's own website to find this out in two minutes.
Putin's spiritual Guru is Alexander Dugin, the self proclaimed neo-näz/i who passionately calls upon putin to carry out a FOURTH RUSSIAN GENOCIDE AGAINST THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE and wipe them out entirely this time, where both lenin and stalin failed in this exact very plan.
Only TWO NATIONS ON EARTH HAVE A JEWISH PRESIDENT & defense minister (and until 2020 consecutively also a Jewish prime minister)- ISRAEL and....?....UKRAINE!
UKRAINE and its people LITERALLY GAVE MORE BLOOD THAN ANY NATION ON EARTH TO SAVE THE JEWISH PEOPLE from the Holocaust. UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE IN WWII!!!!!!
CHURCHILL WROTE THAT GERMANY WAS DEFEATED IN UKRAINE BY UKRAINIANS WHERE THE ENTIRE EASTERN FRONT OCCURRED AS OF 1943
There are 2240 UKRAINIANS honored among the RIGHTEOUS in Jerusalem for giving their lives to save Jews in WWII. There are a mere 220 “russians”. Let no one ever again serve you the libel, the SMEAR that Ukrainians are “anti-semites.”
It is acknowledged that tens of thousands more UKRAINIANS were murdered by russians and Germans before they could be documented and recognized as “Righteous among the Nations.”
THERE WERE 1000. 000 russian nazi collaborators in German Nazi in WWIIuniform 45 TIMES MORE THAN UKRAINIANS.
France, Holland, Estonia, etc had FAR MORE - (and IDEOLOGICALLY CONVINCED TRUE NAZI SS COLLABORATORS than Ukraine. Ukrainians allied with Germany unwillingly to save UKRAINE from the russian socialist genocidal meat grinder.
PEOPLE IGNORE the giant MASTODON in the room- ALL THE ALLIES COLLABORATED WITH....? A FAR MORE GENOCIDAL REGIME- WITH SOCIALIST RUSSIA. Yet not a single word is ever whispered in this regard.
UKRAINE’S CONTRIBUTION TO THE DEFEAT OF NAZI GERMANY AND the AXIS CAN NEVER BE OVERRATED. AS CHURCHILL WROTE, GERMANY WAS DEFEATED IN UKRAINE, BY UKRAINIANS (NOT IN “RUSSIA”).
67% of All German forces (all German forces worldwide, not just on the Eastern front) including elite and SS troops were fighting & were DESTROYED in… UKRAINE, not in some “russia” or elsewhere.
1st UKRAINAN FRONT
2nd UKRAINAN FRONT
3rd UKRAINAN FRONT
4th UKRAINAN FRONT
5th UKRAINAN FRONT
comprising 7.4 million troops THAT’S SEVEN-POINT-FOUR-MILLION UKRAINIAN NOT “Russian” TROOPS DEFEATED GERMANY and saved a certain “Russia” and the USSR FROM GERMANY.
Ukrainians constituted about 24% of the Armed Forces of the USSR, or 8 million troops, yet UKRAINIANS were always at the very front. Russians came behind the first Ukrainian waves. The mass rapes of women were carried out by russians coming after the first waves made up almost exclusively of Ukrainians as of 1943.
UUKRAINIANS SAVED RUSSIA’S Nazi A$$ in WWII & still today the RUSSIAN GENOCIDAL NEO NAZIS DEFAME UKRAINE
UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE IN THIS WAR OUT OF A SOVIET TOTAL OF 23 MILLION. (8 million military and 6 million civilian).
WHICH MEANS THAT ALL THE OTHER 14 REPUBLICS OF THE USSR ALL TOGETHER LOST A TOTAL OF 9 MILLION PEOPLE.
UKRAINE SAVED "russia's" backside in WWII and carried out the VAST MAJORITY of the defeat of Germany. It would have done so without the allied D-Day invasion.
YET NEVER A WORD IS SPOKEN OF UKRAINE IN WWII, only the word, "russia, russia, russia, russia..."
UKRAINE ALONE LOST 150% OF WHAT THE FIFTEEN OTHER SOVIET “REPUBLICS” LOST ALL TOGETHER
1. Armenian SSR (Soviet Socialist Republic)
2. Azerbaijan SSR
3. Byelorussian SSR
4. Estonian SSR
5. Georgian SSR
6. Kazakh SSR
7. Kyrgyz SSR
8. Latvian SSR
9. Lithuanian SSR
10. Moldavian SSR
11. Russian SFSR (Soviet Federal Socialist Republic)
12. Tajik SSR
13. Turkmen SSR
14. Ukrainian SSR
15. Uzbek SSR
The USSR LOST A TOTAL OF 23 MILLION PEOPLE. UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE.
THIS MEANS THAT ALL THE OTHER SOVIET REPUBLICS plus “russia” LOST 9 MILLION PEOPLE IN TOTAL…
WHEREAS UKRAINE ALL ALONE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE.
UKRAINE, AS OF LATE 1942 WAS THE WORLD’S EPICENTER OFWORLD WAR II.
As of 1943 UKRAINE WAS THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY OF GERMANY IN WWII …AS HITLER ORDERED.
7200 UKRAINIAN TOWNS AND VILLAGES WERE RAZED TO THE EARTH. …THAT’S SEVEN-THOUSAND-TWO HUNDRED…
World War two in Europe was essentially a genocidal Tsunami which devastated exclusively UKRAINE, NOT “russia” from West to East (up to Stalingrad on Ukraine’s eastern border) and back again from East to West. (It slightly overflowed Ukraine's northern border at Kursk) As this wave rolled back westward the Germans razed 7,200 Ukrainian towns and villages. They and their populations were obliterated…
Yet IGNORAMUSES in the GERMAN GOVERNMENT want to APPEASE "russia" by slitting Ukraine's throat from behind and tossing it to "russia" out of eternal generational guilt for what they did to...(not Ukraine) but rather to the rogue, mafia, illegitimate, unelected, oligarchial, neo-nä/zi DICTATORSHIP of "russia."
27 million russian? USSR≠Russia
During WWII Russia did not existed. Soviet UNION existed.
This narrator mentions USSR invading Poland from the east but neglects to mention that Germany is also invading Poland from the west. What's with the whitewashing?
Prof. Snyder always works for the ruling elite.
He literally says this on 1:09. What's with the nitpicking?
It's not the impression I got either, he does explain how Germany initiated WW-2 by invading Poland...
Wasn't Germany also needing oil and fuel to provision it's larger war effort ? It's the break in the alliance between the Soviet Union and Grrmany which gave hope to Germany being stopped ; if the alliance had of developed, the world would have been a much different place by now ...
why would you want your wings clipped. History, his story, who's the writer?
A balanced view. Wouldn't have hoped to find one these days. Kudos.
No... not balanced at all. He needs to go back school to understand what an alliance means. It's ramifications and consequences for formally being in one. And to know the difference between a formal alliance and a non-aggression pact. A huge difference. If the Soviet Union and Germany were in an alliance, not only would the West have declared war on Germany, after invading Poland, but by de jure... hell and de facto too, they would have also been at war with the Soviet Union. That's how an ALLIANCE works. This clown is rewriting history by saying as such. And so much more, Britain didn't see itself at war until mid 1940??? huh? Didn't mention "Lebensraum" once. Kind of an important word when it comes to Hitler's philosophy. It was also about oil too... and turns out even more so and the change in priority for Stalingrad. Oh... "but the Russian people didn't suffer nearly as much as the Ukrainians at the hands of the Nazis". Just to categorically isolate "suffering" as a quantitative value for either Russians or Ukrainians is just asinine. He has an agenda, it's obvious.
Balanced indeed . What justification is there for Ukranian collaborates to serve as guards at Nazi concentration camps and other atrocities they committed against civilians under the supervision of the Nazis ?
My head is spinning....I can not even grasp all the reasons that this led to that. What a complicated history. God bless us all and accept that we are all human :)
Europe should be grateful to the US and Britain, we liberated your cowardly countries in WW2.
The first part of WWII was Japan invading Manchuria.
Ukraine was a Nazi collaborator. You can twist history however you want, but facts remain facts. Do some additional reading on Volynia massacre and such…
He just explained to you that most Ukrainians viewed the Germans as liberators from Soviet brutality.
Such as the Holodomor.
Something, for reasons to be discussed another time, that most of the world has never heard about.
Ukrainians, rightly, believed nothing could be worse than what the Soviet Union inflicted on them.
You are judging them, retrospectively, with the benefit of hindsight.
That is just ridiculous.
Heard of Molotov Ribbentrop pact?! Russia/soviet union was also a nazi collaborator.
@@markolcl4784
Yes, heard of that.
A marriage of convenience.
It's called real poltik.
Similar to how Western democracies have "alliances" with many unsavoury nations today.
Also, that pact raises the question of why we didn't declare war on the Soviet Union for also invading Poland.
Instead, we decided to repackage the Soviet Union as our new partner and suddenly Stalin was rebranded as "Uncle Joe".
Seems the allied powers could be just as hypocritical and duplicitous as the Axis powers.
Oh, not to mention the fact that we declared war to regain Poland's freedom.
At the end of the war that we "won" ended up with Poland and half of Europe under the boot of the communist dictatorship for nearly 70 years.
Great result!
@@organismseven3700 Golodomor from the word "golod" which means "hunger" is thoroughly and quite successfully fabricated idea intended to increase hate and radicalize people. In reality, the rest of the USSR starved just as much if not more as "poor always complaining Ukrainians" did. If you look at the numbers in archives you would see that their "neglected, hand-picked and left to die areas" lost at least 2-3 times less people to the hunger than any given part of the USSR during those years. Not a single person is alive today who remembers the events or remembers the truth but the hate that this myth created burns oh still so strongly in the hearts of now fourth or even fifth generation.
@@ottilie9711 Fabricated by who?
Your copping a range of response ,a theme is reacurring that interpretation of history is in the eye of the beholder and more dangerous than a actual gun just 1 example from ww2 Germany takes half of Poland, Russia takes other half Russians thinking we need buffer and Germany will take if we dont ,Poland helps allies and at wars end isn't even permitted to join victory parades for fear of annoying a now strong Russia ,ukranians where victims and like others made choices they believed where beneficial maybe change sides later just look at vichy french
Ukrainian Collaboration during the Holocaust resulted in the shooting and beating to death of 1.2 million Jews and Ukrainians today say it was done out of revenge for the Holodomor which starved to death 5 to 7 million Ukrainians during Stalins (and some of his Jewish henchmen) rule.
Thank you for posting this!
Please TH-cam SGI Buddhist movement an introduction full length version. Peace and NammyohorengekyO!! This is the way to solve our problems as a human race!!!
Snyder is very good I ha e read his book
What the hell are you talking about Britain knows quite well when it declared war on Germany
and it wasn't 1941 it was September 3, 1939
He left out too much that is very important and underplayed much of what was referred to.
Why don't you add some here?
@@rc.... Why don't you learn history? And, if you want me to be your tutor, you have to pay me. EDIT Get an education at Yale as he did. LOL!
No,the part of the USSR that in numbers suffered the most in the war was Russia. Among Russians 6,750,000 miltary, 7,200,000 civilians for a total of 13,950,000 people were killed. For Ukraine the comparable figures are 1,650,000 military, 5,200,000 civilians, for 6,850,000 total killed. Because of a greater population Russia's losses were below Ukraine's per capita at 12.7% to Ukraine's 16.3%. But if considered that way the massive Belorussian's losses would be the largest 25.3% of their population. So no,while Ukraine's total of killed was high,it was no way higher than Russia's. And even it's per capita figure was less than Belarus's.
A simple wikipedia search will show you that the highest level of Soviet casualties for military and civilians in WW2 was Belarus, where's just under 25 % of the civilian population died. Ukraine is next highest at around 19 %. Russian casualties was "just" 9 % of the civilian population.
You just forget that the Soviet Union was a Russian empire encompassing many different ethnic and cultural groups including Ukrainians and Belarusians.
@@nickbrough8335 First,had you read my comment correctly you would see I mentioned that about Belarus. Second,the figures I gave are from Wikipedia under Soviet casualties. Third how did I somehow forget the Soviet Union was multi-ethnic. As to it being a Russian Empire. If you mean the main language was Russian you are correct. But only a few of it's leaders in it's history were ethnic Russians. And the ruling class was very multi-ethnic at all times.
Everyone has an excuse for invasion. Words justify action and unfortunately this video is no different. Truth does not exist in communication, only propaganda. Everyone should understand this, especially those who think their country's actions are justified.
and every one has an excuse not to recognize gthe collaboration with the nazi by murdering barbaric thousand jews thks to collaboration of the ukraine s gvt during WWII!!!! d
@@mariawolf5843 2 millions of russians fought for nazis, what are you talking about?🤦🏼♂️
Also, what about 7 millions of Ukrainians and 3 millions of Kazakhstan's people russian empire (USSR) starved to death?
@@chucknutz6269 2 million is still no where near the amount of volunteers from Ukraine that fought for hitler. Most of the guards at the German concentration camps were Ukrainians, the ideology is clearly still well alive in Ukraine today. Also it wasn’t ‘Russia’ that starved Ukraine in the holodomor, it was communism.
@@harambe7430 wtf are you talking about? 🤦♂️ 🤣
Yeah, in your sick delusions ukrainians were bigger group than russians who fought for the Hitler.
The rest of the world knows that russians were 3 times bigger group in Hitler's army than ukrainians.
Also, it's russia who starved to death 10 millions of Ukrainians and Kazakhstan people. We were occupied by russian communists, russian communists took all the food from Ukraine and Kazakhstan and russia felt itself very good in those times.
@@chucknutz6269 my delusions?? Their literally fact hahahaha. Also your profile picture speaks about who you support, far right extreme nationalism I see. Anyway you should be thanking the Russians cause if not for them and the British and the Americans you would be living under the worst regime in European history, but I forgot you’d probably like that since your country still celebrates a literal nazi in stepan bandera.
Very interesting information. Thank you.
To call a Non Aggression Pact an alliance is outright lies. Most of Europe leading into WW2 had Non Aggression Pacts. No need for lies or rewriting history. The Soviets wanted a breathing space between them and Germany.
My late dad was in WW2, serving out in the east. He wrote a diary of events while out there, and he sometimes added his observations, separately. He said how, once captured, Russian soldiors were treated by Germany. It was terrible, he said, and the brave Russian soldiors, who had to endure the most extreme weather of cold and hunger, fought hard. He would be horrified if he were alive now, and would fully agree that the German leftovers from that war operating in Ukraine need to be fully disintegrated, not only for Russia, but for Ukraine.
Angela Nicholson. Your father was a brave and honest man. Those baying for blood now have no comprehension of what war is.
@@aesop8694 The absolute truth .
German leftovers? Unbelievable nonsense.
We are taught WW2 started when Britain supported Poland after Germany invaded it in 1939. So your info is different to ours
Funny. In Poland we are thought that Britain and France didn't support Poland after it was invaded in 1939.
@@martagcd the pen is mightier than the sword. Shame on Britain
The Tragedy of Ukraine by Nikolai Petro. Provides a much more balanced recent and 20th century history. Petro has no axe to grind or narrative to further.
1:13” The British want to have it start in the middle of 1941?
I thought Britain declared war on Sept 1, 1939
No, they was waiting and thinking which part they going to take
Europe should be grateful to Britain and the US. After all we liberated your cowardly countries in WW2.
Battle of Britain in 1940!!
You forgot about Wolyn massacre, not only Holocaust.
I am not convinced of your argument because if Hitler's aim was to reap the riches of Europe's Eastern bread basket then why did he fight on so many fronts and against so many countries?
I can understand that many Ukranians thought Nazi Germany was the lesser evil at that time. However, this does not explain why they thought that exterminating Ukranian Jews and Roma was an acceptable thing to do. If they were only doing it to express layalty to Germany, then they were acting like slaves of a new master. And if they really believed that those people should have been killed, then they simply and truly were Nazis in ideology and deed. Either way, it doesn't paint a pretty picture and it does raise the question : what values do the Ukranian people live by truly?
Anti semitism was common and accepted in all of Europe back then.
@@carolineleiden Yes. But in some countries it was worse than others.
Ukraine was considered very bad.
@@Danielseven-ir2mq Considered by who?
@@andrewlight3239 considered by Nuremberg trials
@@carolineleiden That is also true. So I guess a better question could be: can we judge people by their history? Can we learn about a people based on their history or is every historical moment unique and not linked to the past?
The US foreign policy people have a minor annoyance---citizens might start caring what they do
Lots of omissions and simplifications here.
Tim Snyder seems to have forgotten the war declarations as Germany invaded Poland 1939 and France 1940, Norway, the Battle of Britain and a huge amount of other stuff in the hot war in Europe, the British fought stubbornly despite adversity from 1939.
At least he explained the Molotov-von Ribbentrop Soviet-Nazi collaboration pact, Russians try and pretend that didn't happen.
No Russian pretends Ribbentrop Molotov pact didn't happen.
Lol ussr was the last major european nation to sign a non aggression pact with germany westerners have completly forgotten that historical fact And brings up ribbentrop molotov pact to try to equate nazi germany and the ussr
@@marcuslarsson9548 As that pact redrew other countries borders and gave Germany a single front war, it was a collaborative aggression pact aiding the Nazi governments war aims.
USSR also signed a similar pact with the Japanese early in 1941, which is the fact that is forgotten.
The USSR were no liberators, they imposed a Stalinist terror on occupied countries, that lasted nearly 50 years.
@@RobBCactive well that’s your perspective the perspective from the ussr was to make the front with Germany as narrow as possibly by a preemptive occupation of eastern Poland.
@@RobBCactive Poland joined the aggression of czekoslovakia with Germany but a lot of people don’t remember that and they don’t say. That that created a one front lol
History is always written by the Victors .
Conversely a broader set of facts can still be found , otherwise you could not make the statement , that some authorities rewrite historical events for their agenda.... propaganda.
We can discern propaganda because authentic evidence usually does survive.
"History is always written by the Victors"... and the Jeremys and the Ruperts ;)
@@buddhastaxi666 survived but buried, hidden ..
In you're opinion.
Man. This brief statement made a year ago is quite sobering now in March 2022.. 🇺🇦🔪
Some times it all about your.location....
A no state, no border proposal: A universal acknowledgement of Natural or God given rights to Life, Freedom and Property. Local communities to oversee the observation of these rights and, when violated, to administer just and commensurate punishment. All other services currently provided by government to be abandoned and/or replaced by private contractors funded proportionately by benefactors. Libertarian, fan of Frederic Bastiat, The Law.
Before this speech a had better impression of Yale university
You make a wrong statement. You say Ukraine was the ultimate goal for Hitler. Actually it was mainly the Caucasus and Baku, because of the OIL. Germany has almost no natural Oil reserves and was starving for it. Hitlers ultimate goal was AUTARKY. Oil was one half, he Ukrainian bead basket, is the other.
Britain entered WW2 in 1939 NOT 1941.
On September 1, 1939, Hitler invaded Poland. On September 3, 1939, France and Britain
declared war on Germany, beginning the START of WW2.
German armies invaded and defeated Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland and France on 10 May 1940. After France surrendered on June 1940, Germany’s attention turned to Britain.
The Battle of Britain, 10 July 1940 - 31 October 1940, when the British RAF defeated the German Luftwaffe. Germany couldn’t defeat Britain without air superiority because it is an island.
Germany invaded Russia on 22 June 1941, for the Caucasus oil fields, Not for bread in Ukraine. The Ukrainians were Nazi collaborators and were wiling participants in the Pogroms.
No, you're mistaken.
Ukraine is a dogs breakfast and has been since the collapse of the Hapsburg empire ( 1918 ) the truth as i see it is simple. Eastern Ukraine was a part of Imperial Russia. Wesrern Ukraine was a part of the Austrian Hungarian empire (Galacia)....so be it, two countries, one looking east, one looking west....for NATO to push into Ukraine knowing how volatile the ethnic and cultural mix is was not just stupid, it was in my opinion criminally stupid....What did they think would happen ?
Exactly what's happening now: destabilization of the region with a possible overthrowing of Putin as a bonus.
Agree entirely. Wouldn't it be nice to get a full overview/facts about the history of Ukraine rather than snippets of information and opinions from experts.
NATO’s push into Ukraine? …Your cart is in front of your horse!
@@eefneleman9564 Da was no U Kraine befor 1918 ! For thousend years was Rusia , Poland !
it seems that u personally r a re-puked dog's breakfast & "crim/inally stu/pid"
I have his book.
The Brits think it starts in mid 1941 ... I think not.
Partially true. The war also began because both germany and ussr both wanted to reclaim lands lost because of the treaty of versailles.
The British were in the war from 1939!
Funny unhistorical lesson of history. The WW2 started with the attack of Italy to Ethiopia. And then with the alliance between France UK and Hitler under Munich agreement, where they gave him for free Sudetenland, a huge part of Czechoslovakia (without asking Czechoslovakia). In the meanwhile, before that, Westerns left Hitler to assist dictator Franco to beat democrats in Civil war of Spain. That's how WW2 started. With Westerns assisting Hitler to develop his power, because they wanted him to beat Bolsheviks.
Very, very interesting thought. Hitler started in 1919. Time Magazine in America named him Man of the Year in 1938. The U.S. got directly involved in the war in 1940. Plus, few of us know that Germany and Russia signed an agreement and they BOTH attacked Poland within weeks of each other. But the story is told that Russia saved the Jews in ww2. Go figure.
But I have a question. If America wanted to defeat the Bolsheviks, then why did the U.S. President personally assist Trotsky in returning to Russia to lead the Bolshevik revolution?
Correct Germany were financially destitute after ww1 yet within 20yrs had the largest military best economy in Europe. Where did the finances come from...?
@@dreadrasta2481 Interesting. Now I have to do more research. But what is your theory about where the money came from? There are really only a few possibilities.
@@jerrysamuels8716 Hitler was the West's Bulwark to contain the Bolsheviks to the east. As usual the Western powers financed Hitler unaware of his secret nonaggression pact with Stalin... Sound familiar
@@dreadrasta2481 Thing is though, America also bankrolled the Bolsheviks. Trotsky, the leader of the red army, was even granted a pass back to the Soviet Union by Truman, I think? Plus, Hitler, later ignored that pact and attacked Russia, anyway, with the eventual goal, someone said, to take Ukraine. Thanks.
And there is Volynia massacre. Glory to the victims and eternal shame to the shameless butchers. Those events are brutal to the point that normal people cannot endure the pain of hearing about it. Imagine going through that helll.
367 murder ways, and 200 of them were invented by ukrainians especially for polish people. Most brutal genocide that happened in the history, its proved
2 millions of russians fought for nazis, what are you talking about?🤦🏼♂️
Also, what about 7 millions of Ukrainians and 3 millions of Kazakhstan's people russian empire (USSR) starved to death?
@@chucknutz6269 Your remark made me believe that you don't even know what happened in Volynia in 1939-45 to Polish defenceless peasants, well, they were ruthlessly slaughtered and tortured by Ukrainian nationalists and the methods of torture were beyond cruel. I got literally traumatised when I learned what happened to that poor children, women and men.
The golodomor has nothing to do with Volynia massacre.
@@matildesroka4471So russia divided Poland with Hitler, russians killed more than 8 millions of ukrainians, russians killed 3 millions of Kazakhstan people, russians killed 300 thousands of Crimean tatars, 500 thousands of Chechens, tens of thousands of Poles(Kathryn and other massacres).........
And you are trying to frame Ukraine as an "villain nation" just because of Volunya tragedy, that was orcestreted by SS, Germans, and the most radical ukrainian collaborators...
Also, don't forget that what happened in Volunie was as much of a horrible crime as what Poles(Armia Krayowa) and Polish SS did during Operation Wisla to Ukrainians and what Armia Krayowa did to tens of thousands of peaceful Ukrainians during ethic cleanings...
So in the end of the day, russia killed like 150 times more peaceful people than Ukraine.
That's why Poland helps Ukraine and prepares to be ready to new coming of ruSSia's "peasful world".
@@chucknutz6269 what are you talking about? He was talking about ukraine, no russia. Also, the great starvation had place before war, not during it
Unfortunately, THERE IS A LOT OF ACCOUNTS OF UKRANIANS BEING REALLY VISCIOUS TO THE JEWS IN THE VILLAGES AND THE CAMPS AND I AM VERY APILOGETIC TO SAY… THIS COMES TO MIND EVEN NOW!
those are PROVEN RUSSIAN accounts to defame Ukraine. even Now Ukraine has a Jewish president & Defense minister... elected by 76% of ("nazi"?) UKRAINIANS
UKRAINE concrete undebatable facts:
ONE MILLION RUSSIANS FOUGHT IN NAZI GERMAN UNIFORM IN WWII. OF THESE, 130,000- that 's one hundred thirty thousand RUSSIANS, fought in German Nazi Waffen SS units in WWII. The greatest contingent of foreign WAFFEN SS VOLUNTEERS WAS...RUSSIAN!
Yet, the Neo Nä/zi CRIMINAL RUSSIANS continue to defame UKRAINE, smearing the entire Ukrainian people as "Näs/is! RUSSIANS WHO STATE IS A NAZI DICTATORSHIP IN ALL ASPECTS, call the legitimate elected democratic government of Ukraine a näsi Junta! At this very moment the russian parliament is 87% neo-näz/i, ultra right, nationalist- such as putin's very own brown shirt party "United Russia" formerly run by the self proclaimed neo-näsi Zhirinovsky, Putins dead buddy.
Simply google up the russian parliament's own website to find this out in two minutes.
Putin's spiritual Guru is Alexander Dugin, the self proclaimed neo-näz/i who passionately calls upon putin to carry out a FOURTH RUSSIAN GENOCIDE AGAINST THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE and wipe them out entirely this time, where both lenin and stalin failed in this exact very plan.
Only TWO NATIONS ON EARTH HAVE A JEWISH PRESIDENT & defense minister (and until 2020 consecutively also a Jewish prime minister)- ISRAEL and....?....UKRAINE!
UKRAINE and its people LITERALLY GAVE MORE BLOOD THAN ANY NATION ON EARTH TO SAVE THE JEWISH PEOPLE from the Holocaust. UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE IN WWII!!!!!!
CHURCHILL WROTE THAT GERMANY WAS DEFEATED IN UKRAINE BY UKRAINIANS WHERE THE ENTIRE EASTERN FRONT OCCURRED AS OF 1943
There are 2240 UKRAINIANS honored among the RIGHTEOUS in Jerusalem for giving their lives to save Jews in WWII. There are a mere 220 “russians”. Let no one ever again serve you the libel, the SMEAR that Ukrainians are “anti-semites.”
It is acknowledged that tens of thousands more UKRAINIANS were murdered by russians and Germans before they could be documented and recognized as “Righteous among the Nations.”
THERE WERE 1000. 000 russian nazi collaborators in German Nazi in WWIIuniform 45 TIMES MORE THAN UKRAINIANS.
France, Holland, Estonia, etc had FAR MORE - (and IDEOLOGICALLY CONVINCED TRUE NAZI SS COLLABORATORS than Ukraine. Ukrainians allied with Germany unwillingly to save UKRAINE from the russian socialist genocidal meat grinder.
PEOPLE IGNORE the giant MASTODON in the room- ALL THE ALLIES COLLABORATED WITH....? A FAR MORE GENOCIDAL REGIME- WITH SOCIALIST RUSSIA. Yet not a single word is ever whispered in this regard.
UKRAINE’S CONTRIBUTION TO THE DEFEAT OF NAZI GERMANY AND the AXIS CAN NEVER BE OVERRATED. AS CHURCHILL WROTE, GERMANY WAS DEFEATED IN UKRAINE, BY UKRAINIANS (NOT IN “RUSSIA”).
67% of All German forces (all German forces worldwide, not just on the Eastern front) including elite and SS troops were fighting & were DESTROYED in… UKRAINE, not in some “russia” or elsewhere.
1st UKRAINAN FRONT
2nd UKRAINAN FRONT
3rd UKRAINAN FRONT
4th UKRAINAN FRONT
5th UKRAINAN FRONT
comprising 7.4 million troops THAT’S SEVEN-POINT-FOUR-MILLION UKRAINIAN NOT “Russian” TROOPS DEFEATED GERMANY and saved a certain “Russia” and the USSR FROM GERMANY.
Ukrainians constituted about 24% of the Armed Forces of the USSR, or 8 million troops, yet UKRAINIANS were always at the very front. Russians came behind the first Ukrainian waves. The mass rapes of women were carried out by russians coming after the first waves made up almost exclusively of Ukrainians as of 1943.
UUKRAINIANS SAVED RUSSIA’S Nazi A$$ in WWII & still today the RUSSIAN GENOCIDAL NEO NAZIS DEFAME UKRAINE
UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE IN THIS WAR OUT OF A SOVIET TOTAL OF 23 MILLION. (8 million military and 6 million civilian).
WHICH MEANS THAT ALL THE OTHER 14 REPUBLICS OF THE USSR ALL TOGETHER LOST A TOTAL OF 9 MILLION PEOPLE.
UKRAINE SAVED "russia's" backside in WWII and carried out the VAST MAJORITY of the defeat of Germany. It would have done so without the allied D-Day invasion.
YET NEVER A WORD IS SPOKEN OF UKRAINE IN WWII, only the word, "russia, russia, russia, russia..."
UKRAINE ALONE LOST 150% OF WHAT THE FIFTEEN OTHER SOVIET “REPUBLICS” LOST ALL TOGETHER
1. Armenian SSR (Soviet Socialist Republic)
2. Azerbaijan SSR
3. Byelorussian SSR
4. Estonian SSR
5. Georgian SSR
6. Kazakh SSR
7. Kyrgyz SSR
8. Latvian SSR
9. Lithuanian SSR
10. Moldavian SSR
11. Russian SFSR (Soviet Federal Socialist Republic)
12. Tajik SSR
13. Turkmen SSR
14. Ukrainian SSR
15. Uzbek SSR
The USSR LOST A TOTAL OF 23 MILLION PEOPLE. UKRAINE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE.
THIS MEANS THAT ALL THE OTHER SOVIET REPUBLICS plus “russia” LOST 9 MILLION PEOPLE IN TOTAL…
WHEREAS UKRAINE ALL ALONE LOST 14 MILLION PEOPLE.
UKRAINE, AS OF LATE 1942 WAS THE WORLD’S EPICENTER OFWORLD WAR II.
As of 1943 UKRAINE WAS THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY OF GERMANY IN WWII …AS HITLER ORDERED.
7200 UKRAINIAN TOWNS AND VILLAGES WERE RAZED TO THE EARTH. …THAT’S SEVEN-THOUSAND-TWO HUNDRED…
World War two in Europe was essentially a genocidal Tsunami which devastated exclusively UKRAINE, NOT “russia” from West to East (up to Stalingrad on Ukraine’s eastern border) and back again from East to West. (It slightly overflowed Ukraine's northern border at Kursk) As this wave rolled back westward the Germans razed 7,200 Ukrainian towns and villages. They and their populations were obliterated…
Yet IGNORAMUSES in the GERMAN GOVERNMENT want to APPEASE "russia" by slitting Ukraine's throat from behind and tossing it to "russia" out of eternal generational guilt for what they did to...(not Ukraine) but rather to the rogue, mafia, illegitimate, unelected, oligarchial, neo-nä/zi DICTATORSHIP of "russia."
"British middle of 1941 " Clearly a mistake ?
Do you really think this holocaust, why don't you look what we done to Syria Libya and Iraq, two millions people we killed that place is hell on earth ,every war is hell on earth,, people always suffer from evil people who love wars, we need start making peace all over ,no more ,war make peace love one another ,be good to each others , no more hate just friendships and kindness to one another,
14th SS Division “ Galicia “ ? You forgot about this ?
And when the Polish invaded the Czeck is not mentioned?
Also the Polish war against Russia 1919 - 1921!
Ukraine didn t existed in the WW2 🤣
Cope cry baby victim 😂
If you have a safe and comfortable life outside Ukraine, then enjoy it and be grateful because you do not know when that ends. Salute Ukrainian soldiers for their bravery. The president of Ukraine is a real life hero RESPECT
He's paid to be a hero by his oligarch friend. Zelensky has been supplied with offshore companies in British Virgin Islands, Cyprus, and Belize. He is an Actor - he will read the script he is handed & his TV crew will do the rest. There are a lot of people dying for nothing - it's not heroism.
Seriously, with all respect to innocent Ukrainans, but you need to get your values in check. How can you respect someone like Zelensky? For what exactly?
@Samurai 7 And thousands of Russians died in Donetsk and Luhansk when the Ukraine army went on the rampage in 2014. No one wants to talk about that though.
@Samurai 7 Look up Ihor Kolomoisky - Zelensky's paymaster.
@Samurai 7 dude you watching too much bbc and cnn news
Better a famine than a fuel shortage.
The narator has forgoten that Petlura & Bandera were asking Hitler for support of an Independent Ukraina subjective to the Gereman Reich ( A satelite of Germany ) Hitler dismissed them as a lower race ( subhuman slavs ), these 2 also participated in the eradication of Jews with fervor in Ukraina & Poland...
Petlura could not ask Hitler for anything because he was assassinated in Paris on 25/05/1926 You have forgotten to add about the genocide the Ukrainians committed on Polish habitants in Volhynia. where a hundred thousand farmers were murdered using the cruellest methods a man can imagine, regardless they were adults or kids and was done by neighbours to neighbours. Expand your knowledge before writing anything that something was done in favour for somebody else.
Some was very opposit ! Jew Szolem Szwarcbard killed Petlura (!) 13 years before start WWII in 1926 in Paris ! So do not spread the lie about Petlura. Bandera and his OUNazi is another story.
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And don't tell me that russian crap about Bandera who was 4 years in concentration camp, who's two brothers were killed by germans and who was fighting against poles, soviet and germans at the same time.
Most of the russian people(70-80%) and russia on the state level praise Stalin, who collaborated with Hitler till 1941, who divided Poland with Hitler, who killed tens of thousands of Polish people, who caused genocide and death from Hunger to more than 7 millions ukrainians and more than 3 million of people of Kazakhstan...
Stalin was 10 times worse than Bandera, and 80% of russians pray to him and call him a father and the greatest leader in history🤦♂️
If somebody can be offended by Bandera - it's Poland and Polish people, but somehow since 2013 it's russia and russians who call all patriotic ukrainians "Banderovcami"...
Somehow it's russians who kill thousands of civilians and somehow Poland saves millions of "Banderovcov"
@@Man-hf1qi So russia divided Poland with Hitler, russians killed more than 8 millions of ukrainians, russians killed 3 millions of Kazakhstan people, russians killed 300 thousands of Crimean tatars, 500 thousands of Chechens, tens of thousands of Poles(Kathryn and other massacres).........
And you are trying to frame Ukraine as an "villain nation" just because of Bybyn Yar tragedy, that was orcestreted by SS, Germans, and the most radical ukrainian collaborators...
Also, don't forget that what happened in Volunie was as much of a horrible crime as what Poles(Armia Krayowa) and Polish SS did during Operation Wisla to Ukrainians and what Armia Krayowa did to tens of thousands of peaceful Ukrainians during ethic cleanings...
So in the end of the day, russia killed like 150 times more peaceful people than Ukraine.
That's why Poland helps Ukraine and prepares to be ready to new coming of ruSSia's "peasful world".
Also, you forgot to mention that despite some ukrainian collaborators there were ten times more families that hided jew's kids and after the war raised them as their own...
When Petlura was assassinated in Paris and was accused of antisemitism, Pilsudski sent his own agent to defend Petlura's good name in court with evidence that Petlura punished any form of antisemitism. There were many problems with the court case.
Excellent.
Excelente video, so relevant in 2022 !
What BS why does he leave out the main reason for ukraine conflict Religion. The guy's full of crap it was Lenin that created today's Ukraine.
That's certainly another angle that doesn't get enough attention.
"Ukraine" as a whole total population may have "suffered" more than Russia, but it was the collaborationists who gained, a top small percent of the population because the overtake of Ukraine for Germany absorbtion entailed depopulation. Meaning a partial "liquidation" of the massive population, retaining "essential workers" to do the framing and administrative jobs, leaving an "entitled" collaborationist bureaucratic arm of the Nazi empire. More lebensraum, which was one of the prime objectives of the Nazis for their own cultural expansion into neighboring countries.
Ukraine definitely suffered more than "russia". At first russia starved to death 7 millions of Ukrainians, than few decades later Nazis killed another 8 millions of Ukrainians. What are you talking about?
What makes these Ukrainian pogroms so shocking and horrific is that they happened in the 1940’s, in the midst of a civilised Europe, not back in the barbaric dark ages of history..
Let's pray those in power don't make the same mistake again. Though, it is entirely possible they do.