they changed what's called "camera recoil" which basically means the GUN's recoil hasn't changed, but VISUALLY they seem to kick more, which makes it harder to stay on target
I figured out what happened: the hit registration is now accurate, and with subtick, the weapon actually fire accurately and it's throwing people off. It's more precise. You have to actually aim precisely now
@@MrFlejon This is not true at all. The gun animations dont show client side until the next server tick. So we are on 64 tick servers and when we shoot the time till the next tick varies. This means that there is an inconsitent segment of time before your animation is shown when you fire. Because of that the sprays and even taps can feel off because your brain is expecting to see the animations as soon as you click.
i feel although the recoil may be the same, the dispersion is worse... try spraying with an ak at the wall with weapon_nospread 1 and then 0 , and you can thell how much dispersion there is.. it's insane... much more dispersion than in csgo
@@MrSwain4 Correct, and your hits will register on the moment you click retroactively, so of course it feels worse, getting feedback later makes muscle memory very difficult compared to syncing hit reg and animations
Biggest issues on my end are 1. Huge delay/desync due to what seems to be high interpolation values 2. Spraying, counterstrafing, movement and basically the muscle memory of years of playing csgo doesn't translate to cs2. Everything feels off
And also, is it just me that sometimes voice chat kinda delay and also need to speak louder in order to comms. This was happened when i was testing through voice loopback
165Hz user here. Now i cant do those peek crouch AWP anymore with the enemy ready.. I got smoked here and there with those gameplay. Playing with AWP needs a bit more patience
I don't believe it's as easy as "high interpolation" at all. I also don't think the desync issues have been nearly as bad since the full release, as directly before they released lag compensation tweaks that mostly fixed the issues.
Feels like it got nerfed for some guns and buffed for others. SMG's are nutty for run and guns but rifles pretty much miss everything if you aren't standing still. Could just be me though.
When the servers are laggy, shotguns always feel OP. And the servers feel like an 8 tick server or something. The last time I had a similar experience was way back during PUBG's launch lol.
nah bro shotguns were op asf especially mag-7 i abused it in csgo also and it's same in cs2 it's just people didn't use it much but mag-7 is really freaking good
My first stupid death in CS2 was checking my health after a gun fight, then having to double check why my health was $6750. And in true FPS game timing, that was the exact moment an enemy popped out and brained me
It has to be the money you will pay for the hospital to repair you. If you are from america this price means like a broken toe so you must be very healthy
but why 🤷♂??? that's what made cs:go, well.. cs:go for a decade, it's nostalgia, now it just feels like every other game the only thing positive was the refund feature and i do agree, the utility
Apart from the spraying the one other thing I've noticed majorly impacting how the game feels is getting stuck on EVERYTHING. Invisible edges, being too close to another playermodel rubberbands you like crazy. And of course the FPS drops on maps like Ancient.
5k hrs CSS, 8k hrs CSGO, here is my initial feedback on CS2 after only a few hours playing it on release: - movement definitely feels off, it's really clunky like CSGO was at the start. - jumping/bhopping is really bad, even on non-official servers. + aim seems fine but something is different with shot reg, I seem to be hitting moving shots more often (which I actually like as it reminds me of older CS) but again I think this is also down to movement. - spraying seems much worse especially with the AK. - sound is VERY messy, too much going on and too boomy - footsteps are too hard to hear, too often an enemy just appears from behind me and kills me with zero indication. - jump/dropping sound is way too loud from distance, sounds like people are right next to you. + new gun sounds are awesome, love the AK and AWP.
You have to realize this is bias towards something new , we are just not used to it yet. Our brain is fine tuned in csgo its not that csgo is perfect but we interpret it better cause of experience. Ex in csgo surround sound and every game its fake its a trick on the brain and initially it feels weird but once you form a brain pattern of the sound and the enemy position where sound is coming from muscle memory writes that in and we interpret it correctly in the future.
I agree. Best example is standing in the short area on vertigo as a ct. In csgo even when people threw nades ,smokes, molotov etc in mid you could still clearly hear the terrorists pushing A ramp. In cs2 everything like smokes nades molotovs are so loud that you cannot even hear if the enemy is pushing ramp. So annoying. Also there seems to be a bug with sound sometimes you see the enemy walk and he does not even generate footsteps
i think the shift to brighter environments is tardily facilitated by the disappearance of crt monitors. i hoped the trend would begin reversing with technologies such as oled bringing the dark blacks and visual fidelity in dim areas back, but it looks like it's going to look more and more cartoony.
you dont even notice how much you are hit yourself sometimes. normally its an easy flip with the eyes to the bottom left, and now they have these red bars on the side, for new players to make it easy^^ they take away from the complexity of the games. i see it in other franchises as well, like tekken 7 and their new tekken 8 beta. dumbing down inputs
Holding angles in awful, especially tight ones.The servers feels like they are always 300ms behind what I am trying to do. I know I am probably still standing there on the enemy screens, but I am nearly a half second back behind the wall on mine when I die. I have good internet and usually have around 20ms ping but it doesnt matter how low it is. It just feels awful, and getting peeked on is still horrendous with the peekers advantage. I noticed just ferrari peeking people will usually put you at a good advantage because there is still some client/server desync going on. From some of my recordings I noticed that when I get peeked they are still running and barely visible on my screen, like for under 200 ms. So unless you have world record reaction times, getting peeked in this game by a competent players is a death sentence if they dont whiff.
Basically, the single thing that can make people hold angles better right now is spamming ADAD but most of the time you'll get destroyed by people that know their angles and corners.
My biggest problem is that they forced us to play cs2 by replacing csgo with it, but stripped a lot of things. Like casual gamemodes I liked to play with friends and coworkers that are not that into competitive. And also: how do we play csgo in a few years if we wanna feel the nostalgia like we can with every other cs game?
I feel like whenever I kill someone there body is like a foot away from my crosshair when I get the kill. Hard to explain but it just feels laggy. And hate that you can only crouch like twice then you get a cool down
I did have that once. It felt like the game gave me a kill I didn't deserve BUT it could've been cuz maybe I didn't perfectly counter-strafe and it was slight inaccuracy from that and the range I shot. Otherwise. Hit reg feels great overall imo. But yeah sometimes sprays feel like bullets are just somehow missing when I even have follow recoil on and the crosshair is on that person's body.
You failed to call out a lot of problems with the game Defending it in it's current state is UNACCEPTABLE I'm so tired of games releasing half baked And tired of mofos defending them From "it's a limited test" to "it's a new game" Argument is still invalid. Valve put this on themselves by saying the game would be out in summer, which btw, they failed to deliver. On beta for more than half a year and still missing features. No danger zone No wargames No new maps, skins or operation Missing maps like Cache or Cobble No new guns New buy menu that LIMITS the player Bad optimization No mac support No default factions models (Separatists, Anarchists, Elite Crew, Balkans, IDF, ST6, FBI, GSG9, GIGN...) Instead it's Phoenix/SAS everywhere ALWAYS, this is probably a lazy marketing strategy to encourage mofos to buy agents instead of actually giving us factions like CSGO had Subtick hardcoded 64 tick, it just sucks Grenade lineups still have to learn 2 of them one for regular matches and another for FACEIT No workshop maps No community servers Movement is terrible No bhop, surf or kz, due to no community servers, but really disappointing since many people were expecting official Valve support for this beloved skilled gamemodes Shooting is terrible, spraying is terrible, skins are hedious, default guns look like toys, maps are too dusty looking Missing console commands No support for easy aliases and scripts for people with physical handicaps like playing with just 1 hand No demo viewer Please STOP defending billionaire companies when they fail to deliver their own promises and they completely replace a product we SPENT TIME & MONEY with something completely different with lots of missing features... At least we can still play 1.6 & Source, but it'd be nice if CS:GO had it's own space in the steam library. They literally pulled an Overwatch 2, they looked at that bs with overwhelmingly negative reviews and thought "hey that's an awesome marketing strategy let's do it too!" CS2 really really sucks right now. Too much missing features and killing CS:GO in the process, just like what Blizzard did with Overwatch.
A lot of this is straight up false and or just bad takes. 1. No danger zone sucks and I agree with that 2. Also true 3. They never said there would be any 4. Cache isn't owned by Valve so it isn't up to them, cobble missing sucks tho 5. Never said there would be any new guns either 6. Bad take, it's straight up just a gameplay change to rebalance the game. This is highly subjective 7. The optimization is really good, but it's a new and a lot better looking game so of course it won't run as well as GO ever did 8. This really fucking sucks, Mac owners got screwed hard 9. No factions sucks too :( 10. Subtick works well, objectively 11. No, both official mm and faceit use 64 tick so the same lineups. 12. Yeah, they'll come eventually tho 13. They will probably also come soon, I hope 14. I want you to prove that the movement is as bad as you say and that it isn't just placebo 15. Community servers will come, but it sucks yeah 16. The spray patterns, recoil, spread, are all the same. Skins are being worked on in like every patch. Default guns look great, that's highly subjective. Both dust 2 and mirage are literally the same as in GO?? 17. Some are missing as some have been removed, probably due to limitations with the new view model 18. This really sucks and I hope they fix it asap 19. The new demo viewer is 100x better than what was in CSGO. It's just not available due to them having to prioritize servers for MM right now, you know, since the game is new?
Map based unique factions have been removed for once and all. They are reintroducing some less controversial ones with paid skins, such as navy seals. It reduced fun and realism and content variety. Different accents, voicelines were the real diversity! Rip "fleshbeng". CSGO still had that source grittiness. The luminal space vibe. CS:2 looks Valorantish, with exaggerated cartony coloring and fx effects. Maps feel unconnected to real life, without depth to them. They are removing hammer and sickles, flags and other elements
Game has been neutered. It's not de-politicised. It's exactly fit into politics of certain audiences who deserved seperate game, something like: "Counter Strike : Easily Offended"
it wasnt, i would be seeing walls i could walk through and werent there and i died like 12 times because i couldnt see tne enemy and they could see me@@SenpaiTheExplorer
Honestly I don’t think it feels all that different. The movement feels slightly less fluid, and the tick rate makes a difference. Oh and I guess spraying feels a little off… but I’m tapping heads like never before
@@simpansssixdxdxdxd6510 What do you mean by bad hitreg? Have you not seen the videos people have made with slowmotion, showcasing how fucking accurate the subtick system is?
i think the hard truth is that it's somewhat simple to just replicate 1 to 1 movement and shooting form cs go to cs 2, but they don't want to... that's because they want it to be a little closer to Valorant shit so bots that are playing it will find cs2 preety close to what they are used to...
The Source engine has been in service since 2004, so almost 20 years for CS. CS2 will be around for at least the next two decades I guarantee you, but probably longer
why no one is talking about the lack of content game modes and maps that were in CSGO never added to the game and no factions everyone is SAS or Phoenix on all the maps why Phoenix on Dust 2? we don't even have workshop support for CS2 this is not an upgrade that is clearly a downgrade from CSGO looking more colorful and bright alone shouldn't be considered an upgrade
Spraying,peakers advantage, and maybe hit reg**** are my biggest issues with the game. Other than that the game is extremely pretty and I have great performance even at 1440p. Can’t wait to see what the future holds for cs2!
Yeah peaker's advantage is really apparent with this game. Feels like I'm just begging to die if I'm holding an angle like it's better to just come out counter strafing and kill someone.
My first few games of CS2 felt so good, it was responsive, shots went where I shot them, I wasn't dying a second after being behind a wall... Now it's laggy as shit again. Killing people by shooting behind them, dying in spots I wasn't in, prefiring people peeking me, and they die before they're even on screen and ragdoll round the corner...
Not being the devil's advocate, but if you look frame by frame of his spray in 8:39 of this video, you can see that he really missed his shots, the only shot the he hit was the one in the enemy's leg, which is shown in the results (not memeing). I can see people complaining about everything (there's no demolition at launch. OMG!) type of thing. Just give it time and eventually will get good.
The only complain that has to be addressed asap is with accuracy of guns sometimes I hit the shoots I shouldn't and sometimes the most obvious ones are impossible to hit. And also please allow a way to access comp for free maybe after a long long session cause then I won't be able to play this game for long
I wonder if it will be ready, and by ready I mean really ready, to be played during a major anytime soon. It feels like there's still a lot of work to do.
Anyone else notices some skyboxes being horribly placed? I knew removing the skybox would be a problem for balance and likely we would need a rebalance for it but I didn't expect Valve fix for this would be putting a skybox over a single box so my fucking molly disappears entirely if I decide to toss it over a fucking box
You can tell that something is off because gold novas and faceit level 1-5's suddenly are gods, destroying a full stack of 3k elo level 10's all the time. I can't point at it, but somethings so off, that the game doesn't make sense. The issues I'm experiencing since beta: -People see you before you see them if they just jump through smokes, making smokes currently almost useless. -People turn this into valorant, they hit everything whilst running full speed, and even jumping. The weapon doesn't matter. -The sprays We've learned and used for 11years are completely off, meaning people who were practicing this stuff now are in a big disadvantage due to habits. Yes, the overall pattern is the same, but the bullets dont land where they should. -peeking feels way too fast when you get peeked close to a corner, the peekers advantage is stronger than it ever has been, making T sides way too strong currently. -Bullets still disappear and clean hits get ignored, just because valve would rather develop a new system rather than swallowing their pride to finally give us good servers. -i feel like skyboxes will be back relatively soon, as theres now insta spawn smokes on every single map in the game. Pro play and high elo will become people throwing util from spawns and then waiting for 90 seconds or so. I'm sure There's more I didn't mention now, but honestly? CSGO was completely unplayable for an entire year after release. CS2 is in a much better position already, so... I guess we gotta wait and pray for Volvo to actually work on issues.
We are not allowed to admit that GN and LLFaceit players somehow are 1-tap all map knowing gods in CS2. Something is very “off” and I agree with all your points.
Sry guys for removing CSGO but to compensate here is purely a cosmetic Ultra Quality Water update which you cannot remove, you're welcome for us halving your fps.
@@jagdteaguer well yea except valve made the expectations on csgo 2 as a massive upgrade patch, then compared to blizzard, the expectations for ow 2 was the new massive pve advertised. Then there's the new 5v5 indirectly making the majority either not use their mic or not be in vc at all, but this is more of a personal complant as an ow 1 player that coms quite a bit.
@@jagdteaguer They didn't make massive false promises like OW2 and the upgrade is free from CSGO... CS2 basically only exists as a way to update CSGO to Source 2 and 2023 standards, not to make a brand new game.
@@ProDucky_ Fun fact. OW has been using subticks for several years now, and there is no animation bullshit. It just works. So atleast they got that working.
As a long-time CS player since the era of cs1.6, I feel like I've found my long lost passion for the game again, despite all the issues it currently has. For me csgo also feels very different than other older cs versions. Somehow I just can't like csgo.. But cs2 fixes everything.. I wish it will keep being improved over time.
Also coming from CS1,5/1,6 era. In my opinion CS SOURCE was the best game they ever made. CSGO I never liked. CS2 feels like a demo compared to original Source. Better graphics sure but what else
After grinding couple of days in cs2, i feel its getting better and better. They are fixing all the bugs pretty quickly. Game is smoother on certain settings. my 5k hours in csgo are obviously making this change harder but i think the game is pretty ready!
4:18 It's odd to hear that we're comparing CS to Val because you can actually see people in CS2. Visuals we never a problem in any CS game until CSGO, maps were bright and player models didn't get lost. The majority of the complaining player base falls in to the category of "Tell me you never played CS before GO... with out telling me you didn't play CS before GO. 6:25 Ropz hit the guy once in the shoulder missed the follow up and couldn't hit the transfer. Wild we're complaining about not be able to spray now.. where was this in the CS:S days.
@@johnotoole6659 If it wasn't true I wouldn't have posted it. It's fine, most of the player base will adapt to not being able to spray and the game will be better for it. If you want a really real back in my day post I could put one together haha.
Feels like they absolutely destroyed counterstrafing, sprays, general movement, and just about every other fucking thing lmao. The only GOOD change is the graphics.
Dont fix somthing that works... Cs 2 looks better but also is more plastic overall than original Cs go, also gunplay is terrible when u compere to original Cs go... It's reason why Valve remove Cs Go because if Cs Go was still up nobady will play Cs 2...From the most realistic FPS game to a average game...
Something to keep in mind as far as the esports of things goes: early on CSGO was able to thrive despite its issues due to having no real competition in their niche within the tac shooter space. Obviously the same can't be said anymore, so I think the fire under valve's ass is a little hotter to get this fixed.
I dont think theres competition still, CS2 already feels very nice compared to other titles. And i hate to admit, cause i almost cried when they shut down the GO servers, but im learning to enjoy CS2 better than go
@@oldblokestranded8767 i had the same feeling for about a week playing it, now it feels nice, ofc it doesnt feel as smooth but its getting there. First week playing it i couldnt kill 10 ppl. Some things are anoying like movement, spray and awp flicks, but its gettinf better and better, i would recommend u to keep playing it, its only gonna get better.
@@oldblokestranded8767 and this is coming from a guy who literally had tears in his eyes when out of nowhere valve deleted GO in the middle of the day. Had to spend some money on upgrades for my PC, now its smooth and AK headshots are hitting way more than it used to
in the beta i had like 30-50 fps on lowest graphics. After official release and the recent patch i finally have my performance back. They are constantly tweaking everything, they just set priorities on what is more important to fix now and what can be done later. I wish they will polish the movement in near future.
This is EXACTLY what I think about CS2 right now. My first real experience of CS2 was terrifying in the way that the game just felt so weird compared to CSGO. But this exactly what I think. The game WILL have to adjust to the community, but I think as the CSGO community moves over, we’ll HAVE TO adapt as well. The meta is gonna change drastically, but my point is that this game is so big (especially historically) that it won’t die in any way because of this update. The problem with Fortnite when it started getting outdated is that it was firstly, still a bit too new to hold on to the masses, but also, CS2 is still almost the exact the same game as it’s been the last 11-12 years, with only small (but highly noticeable) changes. Big thanks for the video anyway! ❤
Biggest problem is cheaters, like every 3. Match i got someone on the enemy team who is walling or using some kind of aimbot. WE NEED A DECENT ANTICHEEAT!!!!
@@yunan9760Excluding a few optimization issues the game is alright but I think they screwed up on the server side. The whole tickless server shtick was a whole hunka garbage.
I am 43yo. Every single CS version was instantn lure for me and I love it. I started on 1.3 when it was just a mod. CS2 made me to leave the game, uninstall it and leave bad review. It just don't feel right. Every CS was instant improvememt. This? Well. Maybe be it is just my opinion but I am not going to play it for year before Valve makes it better. And TBH, as a guy with 2 kids, house, job, wife etc... when I finally understood the new ranking system... Pffff... No reason to bother to keep the rank, I have limiteemd time to play.
We could always go back to 1.6 though, they probably should’ve took down Csgo mm servers when cs2 established itself and announced it was going to get shutdown so people could experience it before it was
I think we should give it some time. CSGO was mastered over many years, and it is difficult to compare a new game to a very old masterpiece. Since CS2 is a big rework, it will take some time for them to improve it and get it to the level that CSGO was.
@@alexisgone5095 no we shouldnt give it time. If they want time then why did they remove csgo entirely? stop acting like valve know what theyre doing when they purposefully trapped us into cs2 when its completely broken. If I could still play CSGO i wouldnt care how long it would take to fix cs2
Literally, every server I played they just spraying bullets everywhere (especially myself which I'm so suck on shooting games) and not headshot all the time due to the amount of changes on the game itself
I was so used to CS:GO, got it for free in early 2019 when it went F2P, and honestly thought it was the definitive CS experience. In fact, when Team Fortress 2 had the bot problem soon after, I switched my primary game to CS:GO and played it more than any other MP game. The change to CS2 was so jarring to me. It was just buggy and just not the same. I think I have to put the game down for a while while the devs try to make it better and fix the bugs.
The game is starting to feel better, I hated it a bit, but this game will become hands down the best cs of all time. The only big issue I have is many of my friends and many people arround the world wont be able to play it, thats the saddest feeling.
I crash almost every game, on inferno I have yellow sky, sometimes when I start game is just black screen and it even crashes on main menu, voice chat sometimes work sometimes does not work and I encountered all this only after 2comp games.
Honestly, cuz of the hit reg and clarity, i already am enjoying cs2 more than csgo. Yes there are issues, but it will be fixed in due time. I trust valve.
Throwing away 10 years of fine tuning under the bus is not a great move. Valve have the learnings, they need to restore the balance between new things, experience from CSGO and community feedback. This way everyone wins!
This is what baffles me... we're talking about an multi billion dollar company, basically unlimited resources. Yet, with all the CSGO's fine tuning / optimization etc, how on earth can they release something that doesn't even have the same movement at least? It's absolutely maddening.
@@sptz87 casually skipping over the fact valve only has around 350 employees to work with + other projects theyre tied up in so "unlimited resources" is a huge overstatement
Mention a single CS release that was on point at launch? Take your time, no rush... I knew this was coming but honestly, I am not breaking a sweat over it. For me this is the open BETA.
@@patriciasernaderuiz7524 I think your PC is good, it is just that CS2 do not manage CPU performance properly, your PC might be idling while running CS2, so you can turn up your CPU performance manually thru Windows Power-Option, High-Performance (or edit minimum-processor-state to 90% in the advance-settings).
After saying all of this stuff, we tend to forget that a game of this quality and of this high potential is FREE TO PLAY. Just be patient folks, everything will settle in place. If you dont like it now, just come back later. No one is forcing you to play.
cs2 mm doesnt only feel worse than csgo 128 tick, it feels worse than csgo 64 tick mm servers, getting swung on my a mac 10 looks like a slideshow and spraying is impossible, the effective ttk with a rifle spray feels like its doubled
cs 1.6 player cry when cs source launch, cs 1.6 and cs source player cry when csgo launch, and now... csgo player cry when cs2 launch. CS player in a nutshell
Good video but it missed, to me, the greatest problem with CS GO that drove everybody crazy: the cheaters. I honestly don't think there was a greater problem than that. You could get really good at the game to spot potential one way smokes and deal with them, change video card settings for a more vivid and vibrant looking game etc. There was always a walk-around but nothing could be done about cheaters and VAC certainly was really bad at that creating overwatch that was the laziest thing I ever heard. You had to play Faceit in the end. Valve did so much work for skins,gameplay,new utilities etc but cheating was never addressed to. There's VAC live ban but the anti cheat is nowhere as good as Riot's and Faceit's. CS2 is boiling with shameless cheaters. I hope they fix the most important problem so there can be fair play.
Yesterday had an Alma from F.E.A.R jumpscare, a CT stood on Mirage Cat, I flicked to spray and they disappeared, only for that CT to come around the corner and kill me.
As someone who likes to stay away from angles as far as possible. There is some spots that i now get stuck on completely flat walls or new tiny props that somehow has a square hitbox on them. In CS:GO you just slide past a lot of those similar props placed in different spots. I don't know why they haven't done this in Cs2. A lot of the getting stuck is probably a skill issue of mine but it is still really annoying. Also, spraying still feels horrible after both fixes. Still sometimes dying behind walls. Getting hits with crosshair hovering off to the side of enemy player model etc. Sometimes i double check if i still have good spray control by spraying a full mag at a wall, and surprise surprise, i can still land all my bullets in the chest area of an enemy medium range... so why do they still not die until after 7-10 bullets? Skill issue???? Sometimes probably, but all the time? Don't think so. This new sub tick system is definitely not ready for professional play. They have until the first major to fix it is my guess. But for right now... counterstrike does not feel like the home i have been used to for the last 13 years. Either way i have strong hope for the future of Cs2, and i can't wait for the day Cs2 starts to feel... just like home
I was told multiple time by multiple people that gun pattern remained the same, though the same people and me included, gun control feels off somehow when you're not standing still or just time your puase right between shots. Could just be us though.
the whole, easier to see enemies is my issue. i keep dying for NOT seeing the enemy. so many times i dont see, most recent this morning, i checked a corner on vertigo expecting them to be there. didnt see them until after i was dead and they still were hard to see in the dark corner. never happed in csgo and if it did I expected them to be there, specifically under palace, check and move on. I finished as LE for some context of my experience. overall, i think its harder to see, spray i thought it was just me, and it feels like a cartoon, the color is so saturated
it should be noted that "training day" is not a real tutorial. It is simply a 5v5 game with bots and the in game hints. It tells you "press B for by menu" and "bomb is dropped". The only new thing that they added for this was in the buy menu it has 'recommended' under a few guns to teach new players what to buy -- which apparently is a p90 and armor
Playing CS2 today is kind of annoying, I basically lived off spray kills, 95% of my kills were from ak or m4a4 sprays, this decreased drastically in CS2, it's also impossible to hold an angle, you die without seeing the enemy, That's pathetic, and finally something that bothered me a lot was the delay of the grenades, for example I threw a dust2 and I usually play short incendiary, I'm right behind and I wait a bit for the smoke, the grenades are so slow that I missed by the order several times because they take a long time to disappear from your inventory, which made me throw a short Molotov, a long SMOKE and keep the he in my hand, this bothered me excessively.
There's currently a plethora of tactical shooters out there. Not just one or two so there's plenty of choice if people aren't satisfied with something. Rainbow Six is another one. And loads more...
i feel the main issue is its so hard to see anyone in any map ! and then there are these nerds that show up with their green agent skins on top of that. Its a sweat fest.
The first time I played CS2 my aim was completely messed up. The mouse setting is the same with csgo but camera movement feels different. But after 10 minutes of gameplay I started getting used to the mouse movement and my aim got much better, without adjusting the mouse setting. I feel P90 is a bit more powerful in CS2. I use it a lot in deathmatch because it has 50 bullets and good fire power, very suitable for free for all deathmatch. Actually I hate free for all deathmatch but sadly that's the only one available right now. No time to reload safely and killed instantly after respawn is so frustrating...
Spray patterns have apparently not been changed, but all the guns feel off despite that. Feels like you can't spray anymore with any of the rifles.
they changed what's called "camera recoil" which basically means the GUN's recoil hasn't changed, but VISUALLY they seem to kick more, which makes it harder to stay on target
I figured out what happened: the hit registration is now accurate, and with subtick, the weapon actually fire accurately and it's throwing people off.
It's more precise. You have to actually aim precisely now
@@MrFlejon This is not true at all.
The gun animations dont show client side until the next server tick. So we are on 64 tick servers and when we shoot the time till the next tick varies. This means that there is an inconsitent segment of time before your animation is shown when you fire. Because of that the sprays and even taps can feel off because your brain is expecting to see the animations as soon as you click.
i feel although the recoil may be the same, the dispersion is worse... try spraying with an ak at the wall with weapon_nospread 1 and then 0 , and you can thell how much dispersion there is.. it's insane... much more dispersion than in csgo
@@MrSwain4 Correct, and your hits will register on the moment you click retroactively, so of course it feels worse, getting feedback later makes muscle memory very difficult compared to syncing hit reg and animations
Biggest issues on my end are
1. Huge delay/desync due to what seems to be high interpolation values
2. Spraying, counterstrafing, movement and basically the muscle memory of years of playing csgo doesn't translate to cs2. Everything feels off
Agreed
And also, is it just me that sometimes voice chat kinda delay and also need to speak louder in order to comms. This was happened when i was testing through voice loopback
Yes
165Hz user here. Now i cant do those peek crouch AWP anymore with the enemy ready.. I got smoked here and there with those gameplay. Playing with AWP needs a bit more patience
I don't believe it's as easy as "high interpolation" at all. I also don't think the desync issues have been nearly as bad since the full release, as directly before they released lag compensation tweaks that mostly fixed the issues.
Does anyone feel like moving and shooting got buffed? And some changes to weapons like the shotguns were made? Feels like the shotguns got buffed.
Feels like it got nerfed for some guns and buffed for others. SMG's are nutty for run and guns but rifles pretty much miss everything if you aren't standing still. Could just be me though.
Yep mag-7 fucking 3 shot me 30m away
When the servers are laggy, shotguns always feel OP. And the servers feel like an 8 tick server or something. The last time I had a similar experience was way back during PUBG's launch lol.
Shotguns are insane now
nah bro shotguns were op asf especially mag-7 i abused it in csgo also and it's same in cs2 it's just people didn't use it much but mag-7 is really freaking good
My first stupid death in CS2 was checking my health after a gun fight, then having to double check why my health was $6750. And in true FPS game timing, that was the exact moment an enemy popped out and brained me
😂😂
It has to be the money you will pay for the hospital to repair you. If you are from america this price means like a broken toe so you must be very healthy
I love the visual overhaul of CS2, my biggest gripe is the amount of times I die behind a corner
Yeah! Like I've been saying CS2 is literally PUBG now lol.
but why 🤷♂??? that's what made cs:go, well.. cs:go for a decade, it's nostalgia, now it just feels like every other game the only thing positive was the refund feature and i do agree, the utility
@@NyangisKhan the amount of times i die behind a wall or die in .1 seconds in pubg is insane lol
@@officialpaperbagmanthe graphics/visuals aren’t what made csgo, csgo lol. It was the balancing and updates surrounding competitive game modes lol.
Idk why but i never had this problem, i have 8-15 Ping most of the time.
Apart from the spraying the one other thing I've noticed majorly impacting how the game feels is getting stuck on EVERYTHING. Invisible edges, being too close to another playermodel rubberbands you like crazy. And of course the FPS drops on maps like Ancient.
this and i feel like the ak fires much slower
I’ve noticed players blocking each other is far worse than it was, it’s like you’re glued to them
I strongly agree
Especially the fps drops it goes from 170 to a 40
@@mr.y8941 I'm barely ever getting fps drops
@@cody6550 I get huge drops, literally lost from ~600 fps to 300 fps max now, in Ancient I legit drop to 150 fps on T side.
5k hrs CSS, 8k hrs CSGO, here is my initial feedback on CS2 after only a few hours playing it on release:
- movement definitely feels off, it's really clunky like CSGO was at the start.
- jumping/bhopping is really bad, even on non-official servers.
+ aim seems fine but something is different with shot reg, I seem to be hitting moving shots more often (which I actually like as it reminds me of older CS) but again I think this is also down to movement.
- spraying seems much worse especially with the AK.
- sound is VERY messy, too much going on and too boomy
- footsteps are too hard to hear, too often an enemy just appears from behind me and kills me with zero indication.
- jump/dropping sound is way too loud from distance, sounds like people are right next to you.
+ new gun sounds are awesome, love the AK and AWP.
New gun sounds are awesome ak and awp? OPINION REJECTED seems like 8k hours was all for nothing.
You have to realize this is bias towards something new , we are just not used to it yet.
Our brain is fine tuned in csgo its not that csgo is perfect but we interpret it better cause of experience.
Ex in csgo surround sound and every game its fake its a trick on the brain and initially it feels weird but once you form a brain pattern of the sound and the enemy position where sound is coming from muscle memory writes that in and we interpret it correctly in the future.
I agree. Best example is standing in the short area on vertigo as a ct. In csgo even when people threw nades ,smokes, molotov etc in mid you could still clearly hear the terrorists pushing A ramp. In cs2 everything like smokes nades molotovs are so loud that you cannot even hear if the enemy is pushing ramp. So annoying. Also there seems to be a bug with sound sometimes you see the enemy walk and he does not even generate footsteps
@@esbern5988 erm. ok. let the dude have his opinion. you have yours.
@@esbern5988 I like the new sounds, they are realistic and more dynamic, game feel more alive.
I actually feel like it's hard to see enemies in a lot of scenarios. The models blend in with the enviorment cause everything is just so fking bright
looking for this comment. I keep dying because i didnt see the enemy. never happened in csgo. I finished as an LE to give an idea of experience
Some dark areas the CT’s blends in with the wall and you can’t see him lmao
That’s a good point. Today I thought my eyes were going bad… I started looking at larger monitors haha.
try turning down gamma
i think the shift to brighter environments is tardily facilitated by the disappearance of crt monitors. i hoped the trend would begin reversing with technologies such as oled bringing the dark blacks and visual fidelity in dim areas back, but it looks like it's going to look more and more cartoony.
The only thing I hate about it is I can't see how much I hit the enemy until the rounds over
that’s in CSGO too though, at least on ESEA/faceit
you dont even notice how much you are hit yourself sometimes. normally its an easy flip with the eyes to the bottom left, and now they have these red bars on the side, for new players to make it easy^^ they take away from the complexity of the games. i see it in other franchises as well, like tekken 7 and their new tekken 8 beta. dumbing down inputs
and no
killer replay so i carnt see how i fucking die hiiden in a corner with no one visable
@@Jakeio-w9jdo you mean in deathmatch?
@@forsenstunlocked5967 in normal team games, us there a button I have to manually press now
Holding angles in awful, especially tight ones.The servers feels like they are always 300ms behind what I am trying to do. I know I am probably still standing there on the enemy screens, but I am nearly a half second back behind the wall on mine when I die. I have good internet and usually have around 20ms ping but it doesnt matter how low it is. It just feels awful, and getting peeked on is still horrendous with the peekers advantage. I noticed just ferrari peeking people will usually put you at a good advantage because there is still some client/server desync going on. From some of my recordings I noticed that when I get peeked they are still running and barely visible on my screen, like for under 200 ms. So unless you have world record reaction times, getting peeked in this game by a competent players is a death sentence if they dont whiff.
Basically, the single thing that can make people hold angles better right now is spamming ADAD but most of the time you'll get destroyed by people that know their angles and corners.
The excuses will go from, “it’s in beta” to “it’s a new game”
feels more like an open beta more than the actual full release
yup, cant even expect a finished product from triple a studios anymore
funny enough, dota has dota 2 beta since 2012
@@roko98332r And for some reason we get less and less FPS each patch.
@@NyangisKhanalmost like dota 2 is on an ancient engine lol.
My biggest problem is that they forced us to play cs2 by replacing csgo with it, but stripped a lot of things. Like casual gamemodes I liked to play with friends and coworkers that are not that into competitive. And also: how do we play csgo in a few years if we wanna feel the nostalgia like we can with every other cs game?
I feel like whenever I kill someone there body is like a foot away from my crosshair when I get the kill. Hard to explain but it just feels laggy. And hate that you can only crouch like twice then you get a cool down
I did have that once. It felt like the game gave me a kill I didn't deserve BUT it could've been cuz maybe I didn't perfectly counter-strafe and it was slight inaccuracy from that and the range I shot.
Otherwise. Hit reg feels great overall imo. But yeah sometimes sprays feel like bullets are just somehow missing when I even have follow recoil on and the crosshair is on that person's body.
Same issue at times
What do you mean by "there body"?
@@rawj1213 Hitreg is absolute trash compared to csgo and dying behind walls is still a problem
@@lussor1 You know what they mean
You failed to call out a lot of problems with the game
Defending it in it's current state is UNACCEPTABLE
I'm so tired of games releasing half baked
And tired of mofos defending them
From "it's a limited test" to "it's a new game"
Argument is still invalid. Valve put this on themselves by saying the game would be out in summer, which btw, they failed to deliver.
On beta for more than half a year and still missing features.
No danger zone
No wargames
No new maps, skins or operation
Missing maps like Cache or Cobble
No new guns
New buy menu that LIMITS the player
Bad optimization
No mac support
No default factions models (Separatists, Anarchists, Elite Crew, Balkans, IDF, ST6, FBI, GSG9, GIGN...) Instead it's Phoenix/SAS everywhere ALWAYS, this is probably a lazy marketing strategy to encourage mofos to buy agents instead of actually giving us factions like CSGO had
Subtick hardcoded 64 tick, it just sucks
Grenade lineups still have to learn 2 of them one for regular matches and another for FACEIT
No workshop maps
No community servers
Movement is terrible
No bhop, surf or kz, due to no community servers, but really disappointing since many people were expecting official Valve support for this beloved skilled gamemodes
Shooting is terrible, spraying is terrible, skins are hedious, default guns look like toys, maps are too dusty looking
Missing console commands
No support for easy aliases and scripts for people with physical handicaps like playing with just 1 hand
No demo viewer
Please STOP defending billionaire companies when they fail to deliver their own promises and they completely replace a product we SPENT TIME & MONEY with something completely different with lots of missing features... At least we can still play 1.6 & Source, but it'd be nice if CS:GO had it's own space in the steam library.
They literally pulled an Overwatch 2, they looked at that bs with overwhelmingly negative reviews and thought "hey that's an awesome marketing strategy let's do it too!"
CS2 really really sucks right now. Too much missing features and killing CS:GO in the process, just like what Blizzard did with Overwatch.
This needs more likes tbh. We all know Dimitri is very biased when it comes to his only played game lol.
@@ChubbyChoncc Thanks
A lot of this is straight up false and or just bad takes.
1. No danger zone sucks and I agree with that
2. Also true
3. They never said there would be any
4. Cache isn't owned by Valve so it isn't up to them, cobble missing sucks tho
5. Never said there would be any new guns either
6. Bad take, it's straight up just a gameplay change to rebalance the game. This is highly subjective
7. The optimization is really good, but it's a new and a lot better looking game so of course it won't run as well as GO ever did
8. This really fucking sucks, Mac owners got screwed hard
9. No factions sucks too :(
10. Subtick works well, objectively
11. No, both official mm and faceit use 64 tick so the same lineups.
12. Yeah, they'll come eventually tho
13. They will probably also come soon, I hope
14. I want you to prove that the movement is as bad as you say and that it isn't just placebo
15. Community servers will come, but it sucks yeah
16. The spray patterns, recoil, spread, are all the same. Skins are being worked on in like every patch. Default guns look great, that's highly subjective. Both dust 2 and mirage are literally the same as in GO??
17. Some are missing as some have been removed, probably due to limitations with the new view model
18. This really sucks and I hope they fix it asap
19. The new demo viewer is 100x better than what was in CSGO. It's just not available due to them having to prioritize servers for MM right now, you know, since the game is new?
Map based unique factions have been removed for once and all. They are reintroducing some less controversial ones with paid skins, such as navy seals. It reduced fun and realism and content variety. Different accents, voicelines were the real diversity! Rip "fleshbeng".
CSGO still had that source grittiness. The luminal space vibe. CS:2 looks Valorantish, with exaggerated cartony coloring and fx effects.
Maps feel unconnected to real life, without depth to them. They are removing hammer and sickles, flags and other elements
Game has been neutered. It's not de-politicised. It's exactly fit into politics of certain audiences who deserved seperate game, something like:
"Counter Strike : Easily Offended"
i had a glitch where dust 2 was overlayed over every map, so on a mirage i could see b site on dust, was in comp too
storage reads issue. had it since csgo bcs im on hdd
@@roko98332ryou 100% need to get an SSD ASAP brother, they are very cheap nowadays.
thats actually pretty sick
it wasnt, i would be seeing walls i could walk through and werent there and i died like 12 times because i couldnt see tne enemy and they could see me@@SenpaiTheExplorer
Yeah me too
Honestly I don’t think it feels all that different. The movement feels slightly less fluid, and the tick rate makes a difference. Oh and I guess spraying feels a little off… but I’m tapping heads like never before
yeah ikr, me too..
Valve just increased the head hitbox to fix bad hitreg...
@@simpansssixdxdxdxd6510 What do you mean by bad hitreg? Have you not seen the videos people have made with slowmotion, showcasing how fucking accurate the subtick system is?
@@MrBa143 What videos? You mean the ones that don't exist? Those videos?
@@LethalByChoice Do you just say weird shit to stay awake?
7:26 About to wait another 10 years for CS2 to feel good just to see it getting replaced by another *Counter Strike* 🎉🗿
Yep😂
i think the hard truth is that it's somewhat simple to just replicate 1 to 1 movement and shooting form cs go to cs 2, but they don't want to... that's because they want it to be a little closer to Valorant shit so bots that are playing it will find cs2 preety close to what they are used to...
cs2 should've had a tank we can ride atleast
Don't worry. As far as we know, Valve still can't count up to 3
The Source engine has been in service since 2004, so almost 20 years for CS. CS2 will be around for at least the next two decades I guarantee you, but probably longer
why no one is talking about the lack of content game modes and maps that were in CSGO never added to the game and no factions everyone is SAS or Phoenix on all the maps why Phoenix on Dust 2? we don't even have workshop support for CS2 this is not an upgrade that is clearly a downgrade from CSGO looking more colorful and bright alone shouldn't be considered an upgrade
Spraying,peakers advantage, and maybe hit reg**** are my biggest issues with the game. Other than that the game is extremely pretty and I have great performance even at 1440p. Can’t wait to see what the future holds for cs2!
Yeah peaker's advantage is really apparent with this game. Feels like I'm just begging to die if I'm holding an angle like it's better to just come out counter strafing and kill someone.
My first few games of CS2 felt so good, it was responsive, shots went where I shot them, I wasn't dying a second after being behind a wall...
Now it's laggy as shit again. Killing people by shooting behind them, dying in spots I wasn't in, prefiring people peeking me, and they die before they're even on screen and ragdoll round the corner...
Agreed
Not being the devil's advocate, but if you look frame by frame of his spray in 8:39 of this video, you can see that he really missed his shots, the only shot the he hit was the one in the enemy's leg, which is shown in the results (not memeing). I can see people complaining about everything (there's no demolition at launch. OMG!) type of thing. Just give it time and eventually will get good.
Yeah, sitting still holding an angle doesn’t work really.
You just die. Can’t sit still anymore 🤣🤣
the more i play the more i want to delete it. TBH.
The only complain that has to be addressed asap is with accuracy of guns sometimes I hit the shoots I shouldn't and sometimes the most obvious ones are impossible to hit. And also please allow a way to access comp for free maybe after a long long session cause then I won't be able to play this game for long
Accuracy is literally perfect. You are just not used to it. There was a video on it.
That's how CSGO was already
@@mlalbaitero with the pay thing or accuracy
@@CHUNCHUNMARU971 Did you mean make competitive (with ranks) available to people who play cs for a long time?
@@IAmMuffin. I'm confused. Do you have to pay money to play in comp matches?
I wonder if it will be ready, and by ready I mean really ready, to be played during a major anytime soon. It feels like there's still a lot of work to do.
Anyone else notices some skyboxes being horribly placed?
I knew removing the skybox would be a problem for balance and likely we would need a rebalance for it but I didn't expect Valve fix for this would be putting a skybox over a single box so my fucking molly disappears entirely if I decide to toss it over a fucking box
You can tell that something is off because gold novas and faceit level 1-5's suddenly are gods, destroying a full stack of 3k elo level 10's all the time. I can't point at it, but somethings so off, that the game doesn't make sense.
The issues I'm experiencing since beta:
-People see you before you see them if they just jump through smokes, making smokes currently almost useless.
-People turn this into valorant, they hit everything whilst running full speed, and even jumping. The weapon doesn't matter.
-The sprays We've learned and used for 11years are completely off, meaning people who were practicing this stuff now are in a big disadvantage due to habits. Yes, the overall pattern is the same, but the bullets dont land where they should.
-peeking feels way too fast when you get peeked close to a corner, the peekers advantage is stronger than it ever has been, making T sides way too strong currently.
-Bullets still disappear and clean hits get ignored, just because valve would rather develop a new system rather than swallowing their pride to finally give us good servers.
-i feel like skyboxes will be back relatively soon, as theres now insta spawn smokes on every single map in the game. Pro play and high elo will become people throwing util from spawns and then waiting for 90 seconds or so.
I'm sure There's more I didn't mention now, but honestly? CSGO was completely unplayable for an entire year after release. CS2 is in a much better position already, so... I guess we gotta wait and pray for Volvo to actually work on issues.
We are not allowed to admit that GN and LLFaceit players somehow are 1-tap all map knowing gods in CS2. Something is very “off” and I agree with all your points.
Sry guys for removing CSGO but to compensate here is purely a cosmetic Ultra Quality Water update which you cannot remove, you're welcome for us halving your fps.
50% fps cut for less than 64 tick servers, more cheaters, and more taxing graphics( that literally dont even look better)
@@WatchoutNSGthis.
YOUR BUGGING THE GAME LOOKS AMAZING
@@WatchoutNSG
I was getting 390+ fps on csgo. Now around 200 fps constant.
Valve:
*i missed the part where that's my problem*
Man if only Blizzard was like this
Didn't valve just pull a blizzard and re-released the same game with a new coat of paint? Lol
@@jagdteaguer well yea except valve made the expectations on csgo 2 as a massive upgrade patch, then compared to blizzard, the expectations for ow 2 was the new massive pve advertised. Then there's the new 5v5 indirectly making the majority either not use their mic or not be in vc at all, but this is more of a personal complant as an ow 1 player that coms quite a bit.
@@jagdteaguer They didn't make massive false promises like OW2 and the upgrade is free from CSGO...
CS2 basically only exists as a way to update CSGO to Source 2 and 2023 standards, not to make a brand new game.
@@ProDucky_ Fun fact. OW has been using subticks for several years now, and there is no animation bullshit. It just works. So atleast they got that working.
Pls for the love of god let me toggle my legs off and turn off bobbing completely.
As a long-time CS player since the era of cs1.6, I feel like I've found my long lost passion for the game again, despite all the issues it currently has. For me csgo also feels very different than other older cs versions. Somehow I just can't like csgo.. But cs2 fixes everything.. I wish it will keep being improved over time.
Also coming from CS1,5/1,6 era. In my opinion CS SOURCE was the best game they ever made. CSGO I never liked. CS2 feels like a demo compared to original Source. Better graphics sure but what else
My biggest pro on cs2 is that it uses less cpu than csgo, I can now switch tabs on my laptop without it crawling
on my pc it allows itself to run on idle speed of ~1ghz and stutter the game soo hard. This feature should be made an option.
After grinding couple of days in cs2, i feel its getting better and better. They are fixing all the bugs pretty quickly. Game is smoother on certain settings. my 5k hours in csgo are obviously making this change harder but i think the game is pretty ready!
5k and silver?
@@BMac420 i was global, and before that, cal-i and cevo-p, i share the same sentiment as OP
I swear it wasnt ready, they shouldve keep it beta longer ngl
4:18 It's odd to hear that we're comparing CS to Val because you can actually see people in CS2. Visuals we never a problem in any CS game until CSGO, maps were bright and player models didn't get lost. The majority of the complaining player base falls in to the category of "Tell me you never played CS before GO... with out telling me you didn't play CS before GO. 6:25 Ropz hit the guy once in the shoulder missed the follow up and couldn't hit the transfer. Wild we're complaining about not be able to spray now.. where was this in the CS:S days.
True
This whole comment reeks of "back in my day"
@@johnotoole6659 If it wasn't true I wouldn't have posted it. It's fine, most of the player base will adapt to not being able to spray and the game will be better for it. If you want a really real back in my day post I could put one together haha.
Feels like they absolutely destroyed counterstrafing, sprays, general movement, and just about every other fucking thing lmao. The only GOOD change is the graphics.
I am so glad I found this video. I kept asking myself what is wrong with me, because I went from really good aim to no apparent aim.
Meanwhile my entire PC locks up for a good 30 seconds if I Alt-Tab
why fix it when it aint broke?
My thoughts!
Dont fix somthing that works... Cs 2 looks better but also is more plastic overall than original Cs go, also gunplay is terrible when u compere to original Cs go... It's reason why Valve remove Cs Go because if Cs Go was still up nobady will play Cs 2...From the most realistic FPS game to a average game...
Something to keep in mind as far as the esports of things goes: early on CSGO was able to thrive despite its issues due to having no real competition in their niche within the tac shooter space. Obviously the same can't be said anymore, so I think the fire under valve's ass is a little hotter to get this fixed.
not to mention csgo was made over a decade ago and valve are tenfolds richer than they were back then
I dont think theres competition still, CS2 already feels very nice compared to other titles. And i hate to admit, cause i almost cried when they shut down the GO servers, but im learning to enjoy CS2 better than go
@@igorcosta832 to me cs2 feels horrible, its unplayable for me in the state its in the fact that its replaced go is abit of a joke imo
@@oldblokestranded8767 i had the same feeling for about a week playing it, now it feels nice, ofc it doesnt feel as smooth but its getting there. First week playing it i couldnt kill 10 ppl. Some things are anoying like movement, spray and awp flicks, but its gettinf better and better, i would recommend u to keep playing it, its only gonna get better.
@@oldblokestranded8767 and this is coming from a guy who literally had tears in his eyes when out of nowhere valve deleted GO in the middle of the day. Had to spend some money on upgrades for my PC, now its smooth and AK headshots are hitting way more than it used to
No, I agree with everything but Conclusion: Stop playing the game if you are not a pro, I don't enjoy it anymore
i love how dimitri build up a video from time to time, big support for you bro
in the beta i had like 30-50 fps on lowest graphics.
After official release and the recent patch i finally have my performance back.
They are constantly tweaking everything, they just set priorities on what is more important to fix now and what can be done later.
I wish they will polish the movement in near future.
@Narziss1That's because so many people are playing ATM. The wait times on competitive have been loong 8:47
This is EXACTLY what I think about CS2 right now. My first real experience of CS2 was terrifying in the way that the game just felt so weird compared to CSGO. But this exactly what I think. The game WILL have to adjust to the community, but I think as the CSGO community moves over, we’ll HAVE TO adapt as well. The meta is gonna change drastically, but my point is that this game is so big (especially historically) that it won’t die in any way because of this update. The problem with Fortnite when it started getting outdated is that it was firstly, still a bit too new to hold on to the masses, but also, CS2 is still almost the exact the same game as it’s been the last 11-12 years, with only small (but highly noticeable) changes.
Big thanks for the video anyway! ❤
Biggest problem is cheaters, like every 3. Match i got someone on the enemy team who is walling or using some kind of aimbot. WE NEED A DECENT ANTICHEEAT!!!!
CS2 is another example of the modern gaming industry continually releasing unfinished products.
mind same thing cs source couple decades ago?
i would say cs2 is pretty much finished but it feels different and weird to play.
Unfinished? It has issues, but it’s entirely finished. It has all the content. It just has issues, which every game has.
@@yunan9760Excluding a few optimization issues the game is alright but I think they screwed up on the server side. The whole tickless server shtick was a whole hunka garbage.
@@theworld6710yeah it has all the content of basically the first game💀
Lots of y’all are delusional
I am 43yo. Every single CS version was instantn lure for me and I love it. I started on 1.3 when it was just a mod. CS2 made me to leave the game, uninstall it and leave bad review. It just don't feel right. Every CS was instant improvememt. This? Well. Maybe be it is just my opinion but I am not going to play it for year before Valve makes it better. And TBH, as a guy with 2 kids, house, job, wife etc... when I finally understood the new ranking system... Pffff... No reason to bother to keep the rank, I have limiteemd time to play.
let's all remember that csgo used to be even worse when it first came out
We could always go back to 1.6 though, they probably should’ve took down Csgo mm servers when cs2 established itself and announced it was going to get shutdown so people could experience it before it was
screw the new subtick, just give us 128 on volvo servers. idk why the devs are trying to reinvent the wheel here?
I think we should give it some time. CSGO was mastered over many years, and it is difficult to compare a new game to a very old masterpiece. Since CS2 is a big rework, it will take some time for them to improve it and get it to the level that CSGO was.
Fr, with how big this update is we shouldn't be surprised it has issues as it's on a new engine and things.
@@alexisgone5095 no we shouldnt give it time. If they want time then why did they remove csgo entirely? stop acting like valve know what theyre doing when they purposefully trapped us into cs2 when its completely broken. If I could still play CSGO i wouldnt care how long it would take to fix cs2
The graphics are cool, but it just doesn’t…. feel … right
The buying screen is ugly ash
So bro is saying we wait another 10 years to be able to play a good cs2...
Aside from server issues, I think most players are too used to CSGO’s gameplay, so little changes here and there are going to throw them off.
Low end pc can’t run cs2 well unlike csgo
Literally, every server I played they just spraying bullets everywhere (especially myself which I'm so suck on shooting games) and not headshot all the time due to the amount of changes on the game itself
if your computer cant run anything under direct x 11 you cant play
I was so used to CS:GO, got it for free in early 2019 when it went F2P, and honestly thought it was the definitive CS experience. In fact, when Team Fortress 2 had the bot problem soon after, I switched my primary game to CS:GO and played it more than any other MP game. The change to CS2 was so jarring to me. It was just buggy and just not the same. I think I have to put the game down for a while while the devs try to make it better and fix the bugs.
Cs2 is a bit hard with my potato pc, csgo was all good damn
Same 😭😭😭
Same 😢
The same.i had 60-70 fps on go,now i can barely get 30...and i payed for go years ago.....
Time to go to the farm to get a new one bro.
@@Toonlink003 yeah i get what are you saying,but it was a bad move deleting cs goany people paid for it before it was made free and now they cant play
I cant believe the amount of people that are brainwashed into thinking cs2 is a good game
The game is starting to feel better, I hated it a bit, but this game will become hands down the best cs of all time. The only big issue I have is many of my friends and many people arround the world wont be able to play it, thats the saddest feeling.
cs3 2030, vr anime waifu skins and 256 tick servers.@Narziss1
They killed a professionally played game overnight
I crash almost every game, on inferno I have yellow sky, sometimes when I start game is just black screen and it even crashes on main menu, voice chat sometimes work sometimes does not work and I encountered all this only after 2comp games.
Honestly, cuz of the hit reg and clarity, i already am enjoying cs2 more than csgo. Yes there are issues, but it will be fixed in due time. I trust valve.
Thank God its not activision.
It's a great game, but... Where TF is left hand view model???
Throwing away 10 years of fine tuning under the bus is not a great move. Valve have the learnings, they need to restore the balance between new things, experience from CSGO and community feedback. This way everyone wins!
This is what baffles me... we're talking about an multi billion dollar company, basically unlimited resources. Yet, with all the CSGO's fine tuning / optimization etc, how on earth can they release something that doesn't even have the same movement at least? It's absolutely maddening.
@@sptz87 casually skipping over the fact valve only has around 350 employees to work with + other projects theyre tied up in so "unlimited resources" is a huge overstatement
@@sptz87they have really few employees for a triple a company
Mention a single CS release that was on point at launch? Take your time, no rush... I knew this was coming but honestly, I am not breaking a sweat over it. For me this is the open BETA.
Valve fan boy spotted
Fix the hit registration. The AK & Deagle are plagued with ghost shots.
I have been enjoying it so far. The only bad thing is the FPS Drop.
Only 100 fps and it can dip to 30 for me 😢 guess I won’t be playing till they optimize or I get a new pc.
@@patriciasernaderuiz7524 I think your PC is good, it is just that CS2 do not manage CPU performance properly, your PC might be idling while running CS2, so you can turn up your CPU performance manually thru Windows Power-Option, High-Performance (or edit minimum-processor-state to 90% in the advance-settings).
Sprays feel fine to me now. It's just an adjustment. I'm actually getting more kills in MR12 than I was in MR15.
For me, this is by far the best CS. From tickrate to how the weapons feel, i love it
don't fix something that isn't broken. we all loved csgo because it was great.
After saying all of this stuff, we tend to forget that a game of this quality and of this high potential is FREE TO PLAY. Just be patient folks, everything will settle in place. If you dont like it now, just come back later. No one is forcing you to play.
There's no such thing as truly free-to-play. Valve rakes in millions by collecting commissions from skin sales.
cs2 mm doesnt only feel worse than csgo 128 tick, it feels worse than csgo 64 tick mm servers, getting swung on my a mac 10 looks like a slideshow and spraying is impossible, the effective ttk with a rifle spray feels like its doubled
I saw the title and I said
“This mf did not just say that”
Same here,
cs 1.6 player cry when cs source launch,
cs 1.6 and cs source player cry when csgo launch,
and now... csgo player cry when cs2 launch. CS player in a nutshell
I'm too lazy to watch the video so I'm just gonna complain about the AK spray in the comments
”Lazy” this generation
A better looking CS, its so good that I had to delete it until they patch this terribly launched something, its far worse than GO rn
Same situation here
Been lagging for every 5 minutes during a death match game
Good video but it missed, to me, the greatest problem with CS GO that drove everybody crazy: the cheaters. I honestly don't think there was a greater problem than that. You could get really good at the game to spot potential one way smokes and deal with them, change video card settings for a more vivid and vibrant looking game etc. There was always a walk-around but nothing could be done about cheaters and VAC certainly was really bad at that creating overwatch that was the laziest thing I ever heard. You had to play Faceit in the end. Valve did so much work for skins,gameplay,new utilities etc but cheating was never addressed to. There's VAC live ban but the anti cheat is nowhere as good as Riot's and Faceit's. CS2 is boiling with shameless cheaters. I hope they fix the most important problem so there can be fair play.
if lake doesnt come back cs2 will never be good
I think it is better tbh I just think the more hardcore players are having a harder time adjusting to the new game
I totally disagree. you shouldn't play CS2 until they fix the spray registration. Play Valorant in the meantime would put Valve on high alert.
Matchmaking with friends is a complete rollfest
Yesterday had an Alma from F.E.A.R jumpscare, a CT stood on Mirage Cat, I flicked to spray and they disappeared, only for that CT to come around the corner and kill me.
It's ridiculous that we may have to wait 10 years for it to feel as good as a game WE ALREADY HAD.
As someone who likes to stay away from angles as far as possible. There is some spots that i now get stuck on completely flat walls or new tiny props that somehow has a square hitbox on them. In CS:GO you just slide past a lot of those similar props placed in different spots. I don't know why they haven't done this in Cs2. A lot of the getting stuck is probably a skill issue of mine but it is still really annoying. Also, spraying still feels horrible after both fixes. Still sometimes dying behind walls. Getting hits with crosshair hovering off to the side of enemy player model etc.
Sometimes i double check if i still have good spray control by spraying a full mag at a wall, and surprise surprise, i can still land all my bullets in the chest area of an enemy medium range... so why do they still not die until after 7-10 bullets? Skill issue???? Sometimes probably, but all the time? Don't think so.
This new sub tick system is definitely not ready for professional play. They have until the first major to fix it is my guess. But for right now... counterstrike does not feel like the home i have been used to for the last 13 years.
Either way i have strong hope for the future of Cs2, and i can't wait for the day Cs2 starts to feel... just like home
cs2 is ass lets just be honest
Exactly
just give it another 10 years boys
Bring CSGO back
I was told multiple time by multiple people that gun pattern remained the same, though the same people and me included, gun control feels off somehow when you're not standing still or just time your puase right between shots. Could just be us though.
Over a month later anddddd the game still feels like absolute ass. Bring back CSGO. Let this stay in beta till it's an actual complete game.
There is one guy on valve with a neckbears who now goes in to work and just says “I told you so”
the whole, easier to see enemies is my issue. i keep dying for NOT seeing the enemy. so many times i dont see, most recent this morning, i checked a corner on vertigo expecting them to be there. didnt see them until after i was dead and they still were hard to see in the dark corner. never happed in csgo and if it did I expected them to be there, specifically under palace, check and move on. I finished as LE for some context of my experience. overall, i think its harder to see, spray i thought it was just me, and it feels like a cartoon, the color is so saturated
why is there no arms race..... that was the best way to warm up before a competitive match
The team coloured smoke it feels odd and I hope we can add a customisable for the hud
it should be noted that "training day" is not a real tutorial. It is simply a 5v5 game with bots and the in game hints. It tells you "press B for by menu" and "bomb is dropped". The only new thing that they added for this was in the buy menu it has 'recommended' under a few guns to teach new players what to buy -- which apparently is a p90 and armor
Playing CS2 today is kind of annoying, I basically lived off spray kills, 95% of my kills were from ak or m4a4 sprays, this decreased drastically in CS2, it's also impossible to hold an angle, you die without seeing the enemy, That's pathetic, and finally something that bothered me a lot was the delay of the grenades, for example I threw a dust2 and I usually play short incendiary, I'm right behind and I wait a bit for the smoke, the grenades are so slow that I missed by the order several times because they take a long time to disappear from your inventory, which made me throw a short Molotov, a long SMOKE and keep the he in my hand, this bothered me excessively.
"I think you should be playing it [CS2] now. Not that you have a choice"
*me happily playing Valorant*
There's currently a plethora of tactical shooters out there. Not just one or two so there's plenty of choice if people aren't satisfied with something.
Rainbow Six is another one. And loads more...
It's been 4 months now, and the game is only marginally better. Just admit it, cs2 is terrible and always will be.
One of my ranked game froze mid-game & crashed, while my other ranked cs2 game just has me spike lagging like crazy.... I could barely play.
My only complaint is why the héll did valve remove team vs team death match? Free for all is a nightmare....
i feel the main issue is its so hard to see anyone in any map ! and then there are these nerds that show up with their green agent skins on top of that. Its a sweat fest.
I remember when cs go csme out everyone and there mother kept saying the game sucked , same shit again, give valve time it will be fixed
The first time I played CS2 my aim was completely messed up. The mouse setting is the same with csgo but camera movement feels different. But after 10 minutes of gameplay I started getting used to the mouse movement and my aim got much better, without adjusting the mouse setting. I feel P90 is a bit more powerful in CS2. I use it a lot in deathmatch because it has 50 bullets and good fire power, very suitable for free for all deathmatch. Actually I hate free for all deathmatch but sadly that's the only one available right now. No time to reload safely and killed instantly after respawn is so frustrating...
Yea they need to add classic deathmatch back