The Moe Norman and Bryson DeChambeau Secret
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- Do Moe Norman and current PGA superstar Bryson DeChambeau have a secret? Even though I don't really believe in "secrets" I do believe that swing secrets are simply biomechanical advantages established from how you position the body to strike a ball on the ground with a stick.
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What is a biomechanical advantage? It can be described as a position of the body that creates an advantage whereby eliminating variables. The elimination of the angle of the wrist at address, fully reaching the maximum ulnar deviation of the lead wrist, created a biomechanical advantage for Moe Norman and is also why Bryson DeChambeau is quickly becoming the next great ball striker on the PGA Tour.
We call this elimination of the angle - The Single Plane Golf swing which starts the club, through the proper ulnar deviation, on the same plane as impact. The Single Plane swing a biomechanical advantage, and not a quick fix golf technique. It is a system, beginning at address, that simplifies the most important moment of the golf swing - impact.
Starting at address on two planes where the arms hang straight down at address, the Conventional golf swing is complicated. Because the arms are hanging straight down, a conventional golfer must lift the body into impact creating stress on the back.
This upward movement to accommodate the two planes is unnecessary.
The Single Plane Golf swing simplifies the golf swing by eliminating the need for the upward movement by starting and impacting on the same plane.
To find out Moe about the Single Plane Golf Swing, you can order my book The Single Plane Golf Swing, Play Better Golf the Moe Norman way here:
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To find out more about the Single Plane Swing, I have created a "Single Plane Pocket coach" that you can take to the range, or course, and learn the fundamentals of the swing. Find out more about the Pocket Coach here: SwingPocketGuide.com.
Is there a place in Atlanta yet
I purchased the course try to follow to the letter however I can’t stop topping the ball with this set up.
@@anthonycentoni Stance too wide. Ball position too far forward.
@@anthonycentoni I tee the ball high and don't lean forward too much, just stretch my arms out straight, works for me
God bless Moe Norman and his legacy! Let's Go, Bryson!!
Thanks for keeping Moe's memory alive and well, Scott! ⛳️
Great video. I first met Moe at the Earl Grey course in Calgary, Alberta by a mutual friend. I also got to play a couple practice round with him, and he let me tape him a bit practicing. Your channel explains the things you can take from Moe's swing better than any other. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Todd
I have been watching these videos for about a month now. My ball striking is improving. The positions feel more natural to me. I'm working to understand all of the bio mechanics stuff .
I was off the golf course for 2 years due to surgery. Came back this year completely forgetting the Graves single plane swing and was all over the place. At the end of my season I remembered the Moe/Graves method and started to get good results. I was in Orlando in 2005 taking lessons which gave me a new outlook on golf. Now this next season I'm back to be swinging like Todd and Moe. TNX. 👏👏👏
Todd, I have been playing golf for about 30 years. I have been watching your single plane swing videos and I have to say you and Moe have changed my golf game so much. I can’t believe what this swing has done for my game. I was told by my golf coach to forget about Moe’s swing. He said it’s a gimmick and no one can duplicate his swing. I can’t wait to show him and tell him how wrong he is with the conventional golf swing. I’m 66 years old and this swing is so efficient and easy for me. I can’t believe how straight my ball goes now.
👏 single plane is more logical than 2 planes what improvements you see so far?
Todd this is brilliant. Loved everybit of this video piece. Thanks for sharing
@Todd - Excellent instruction as always!
Thanks for taking your time. Been doing this for a while after putting in the practice. My games pretty consistent and i’m no longer chasing my ball all over place. My stroke range is dependent on my putter, especially lag putting. Thanks again.
Long before I had ever heard of Moe Norman, out of desperation I started using a single-plane extension at address. As much as I tried, and as hard as my golfing buddies tried to help me, I’ve never been able to drop my arms at address, because at impact the club head always seemed to be farther away from my body-scary close to the hosel. That fear, which haunted my swing thoughts, always affected the accuracy and power of my golf swing. What I didn’t know-until this video-were the other components of Moe’s golf swing-which I will now take to the driving range. Thank you for breaking it down and putting it out there. I am now a new subscriber.
Very good mec hanics for the swing and its working well for me. Im glad l saw your video thank you for the lesson my dear good man .
Absolutely spot on. This is the best explanation i have ever heard. Great Job!
Glad it was helpful!
I bought one of your videos and the swing trainer. I've been hooking for years. I went out last night using your method and tried it basically on drives. Drive 1 - Straight Smash w/good height Drive 2 - awful and slice Drive 3 - Straight, but low Drive 4 - awful and slice Drive 5 - slice, but in play Drive 6 - Straight, but low After that concentrated on not rolling my left forearm on the backswing and keeping the club on plane. Drive 7 - Straight Smash w/good height Drive 8 -Straight Smash w/good height Drive 9 - Straight Smash w/good height Then it got dark and had to go in. Most fun I had driving in a long time. Stick with it. It works! Easy power! Great feel. I think I got "The Feeling of Greatness," on the last three drives.
Todd: I sincerely enjoyed your comparison of Bryson and Moe. Articulate, simple and concise. Well Done...
This might be the best video ive watched, EVER! Thanks!
Thanks for the Explanation! It makes your book come alive!
Thank you!
I'm a feel player and by adding single plane fundamentals in my set up, I find that I'm more consistent and hitting the ball straight. The combo of being a feel player with the correct fundamentals is working great.
Great video. I'm am still pretty new to the game (about 8 months in) and this was especially interesting to me because when I first started plauing, I naturally had a single plain swing...didn't know it then but after watching this video, now I know. Thanks to my all my personal TH-cam instructors and other sources around the web, I started trying to learning the two plain swing. Funny thing is I felt more accurate with my driver with the single plain despite being even less experienced and now I have been struggling with the driver consistency ever since the change. I just thought I wasn't swinging the proper way but now I see that you can be successful with it. I'll think I'm going to give it a go again. Go with my natural swing tendency.
another great video. It really appeals to my need to understand the logic behind Moe's swing. So well explained :)
Thanks.
Thank you so much for this video. It makes so much sense!
Glad it was helpful!
Started the year with real bad dequervains in my left thumb and wrist... what saved me from not playing is taking a strong grip and this lead arm position....now its almost painless and my game is better and longer. Love it!!!
Amazing content, best single plane swing coach on TH-cam. Thank you brother for making golf fun again!
🙌Todd🙌 Thank you So Much ..For Including Bryson ‘s
Name in the video it contributes Such Credibility To Your Life’s Work - In A Time Of Division 🤔Single Plane Is Just “”THAT”” ... Doesn’t Matter Who does It 💪🏼⛳️ COMES From STRONG Fundamentals ..Your The Best ☮️& ❤️& 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼⛳️
Thanks.
Well explained... thanks
Buenísimo. Muy lógico el swing.
Great stuff. Going to try for sure!
I just turned 55 and I have a bad back and a reconstructed knee. I have been ready to give up golf because it is so hard on my knee and back, and I just couldn't hit my irons any more. I started converting my swing to the single plane and it has taken so much stress and movement out of my swing that it is fun again. Thanks for keeping Moe around for us.
Hi Todd. Your videos are the very best! Does Bryson ever chat to you about his swing?
Been watching your videos. So far with the putting it's been working wonders. Still figuring out the distance control part but the line is dead straight. As for the irons swing I'm heading out to the range today to test it out.
absolutely fascinating. Count me as a new subscriber! Having said that, i already know my poor rotator cuff on my lead shoulder can't handle such stress (i used to swing similar to this back when i grew up and was basically teaching myself how to swing). Knowing this, i look forward to watching Bryson's career to see how well he can keep from destroying his shoulder. My own problem was bringing the club back too far on the backswing (i guess trying to get extra room to build up more speed). I stressed out my lead shoulder so badly that it's got a weakness in it that i'll have to live with for the rest of my life. I've got a feeling there's going to be a segment of golfers trying to mimic Bryson and overdoing it just like i did. Bryson ain't just out there whacking a ball as hard as he can; he's worked out, built up, and whatever else to strengthen himself (he's said as much in interviews). I wish him the best, because he's certainly taken the tee ball to new level on the tour and that's exciting to see.
Thank you for this.
Great Video Thanks.
You're welcome.
Very informative. I switch to this style of swing about a year ago. It has helped to drop my handicap. And also to put less stress on my back .
Absolutely
Awesome,,thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
What a great video; short, concise, informative. Keep up the good work!! Also, I personally believe Hogan used many of the same mechanics to his swing on a much smaller scale. Restriction= control
Thank you!
Todd Graves did hogan do that?
Fantastic video and content 👏👏👏
Thanks.
great points-- will try-- see it to be more consistent to hit fairways
Great video
I've been fascinated with Moe Norman and his story since first hearing about him. I'm definitely going to give the single plane swing a try.
I like this video and makes it simple about the sps
Thank you! I was starting to swing this way and was straightening out my left arm and wrist to get an additional 30-60 yards and this helped explain it all to me. Secondly, I'm about eliminating variables too when it matters so I enjoyed hearing it. Going to the range now
Man...when someone asks me who I swing like I'm adding Bryson to the list now hahaha (swing like, not play like)
This really helped me not think i was a maniac lining the club far from the ball and stretching my wrist like that, i was trying to look all over to see if anyone else was doing it
Todd
Thanks for another great video. I want to attest to the single plane swing and its abilities. First off I have broken C 3, 4, & 5 as well as L4. I am sure you understand what that means when it comes to pain from swinging a normal swing. When I swung the normal swing I would not even be able to complete 9 holes with out extreme pain in my spine.Also I have a torn bicep as well as damaged rotator cuff which would lead to shoulder and arm pain from swinging the normal swing. I wont even mention what kind of hadicap it left me with or how I played as Moe calls it Army Golf. I then began watching your videos here and practicing the single plane swing. I also began to watch Bryson and learning about single length clubs. As soon as they opened up the courses here in Northern Michigan I went out on a course I have never played before and played 2 rounds of 18. My first round was +5 my second round was +3 not to mention I can daily hit over 100 shots in practice as well as 100+ putts and all with NO PAIN. I can not thank you enough for all your work in bringing the single plane swing to light. I believe if more people actually put the time into learning the single plane swing they would enjoy golf more and have far better scores at the end of their rounds. Also maybe you could touch on Moe's comment about SLINGING the ball to a DEFINED TARGET as that comment along with skipping a stone really put into my mind what a golf swing really is all about and why the tilt is also in the single plane swing. All the best to you and yours.
Great Story and I agree with you regarding people taking the time to understand and learn the Single Plane Swing. Thanks!
Practising this yesterday in Perth Australia struggled for a life time with driver not anymore last January my handicap was 2 in 2019 up to 5 , put the driver back in the bag yesterday feel heaps of confidence since finding your methods of this swing ,I've always believed in the 1 piece take away people talked me out of by having lessons with certain coaches , I'm going back to my old swing one piece take away again .
I naturally swing like this but I didn't know any better about the technicality and effectiveness and almost change because of the common golf swing influence. I had some great moment that I felt great but didn't get it down until now. I'll keep up with my natural swing setup and more with this help will bring better consistency in my game. Thank you so much for the video.
exactly the same here...just one plane felt more simple and the only bad shot i have is left...everyone tellin me i play too much blocked or mechanical.blabla..gotta try this now!!
Todd can you do some videos with irons and wedges. I am using the single plane swing and am lowering my score with it. I'm not going back to the traditional swing.
I have never had 1 golf class. I recently started playing at least once every 2 weeks with some tips from friends. I really struggled with my driver. Yesterday I saw one of your videos, and decided to try it on the golf coarse today. I hit 300 yards straight as can be, time after time. This technique just made my golf SO MUCH MORE FUN! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!
Amazing. Can't wait to try this
Have fun!
I had to stop playing golf due to cancer, I had 5 opertains in 2017 but I'm okay and resuming my love for golf. I was hitting before stopping anywhere from low 80's to 90's. Of course inconsistent but playing was still fun. Pitching and chipping was the biggest weakness, old school handle ahead of ball, watching endless hours of youtube have corrected my mistakes.
I haven't had time to thank you for teaching me Moe's feeling of greatness. I bought your book and seen every video, just can't log in at work to tell you.
I could not hit my irons upon rehab at all! I felt like you before Moe, extremely frustrated. Like Moe said you need to put in a lot of hard work. Two things that you don't address much and I find extremely important for this swing is to have the hosel pointing at the ball. Your over head video was your best!
The second point is the feet position depending on the club. I know you have your guide but I notice You and Moe sometimes with a driver your feet are straight and sometimes I notice Moe in a down the line view with his back foot in a slight draw, about half a shoe length. In one of your videos you state this. I found this extremely helpful, maybe more rotation is produced in my swing?
I would love to see an over head view of address for the driver and the irons. Also how far back of the ball at address for the lower irons? How open are your feet or not.
BTW I finally hit my irons ok and beat my brother with his artificial swing yesterday. Hit 44 on the back and can see the beauty of having a plan you can always return to.
Thanks for forwarding Moe's gift to us hackers. Every time I have a long staight drive I think he is watching and smiling from above.
Glad to hear of your recovery and improvement. Keep it up!
Yehhhhh......super explanation coach👍🏌️♂️ I struggle with my left arm on the driver for more than 15 years. Motor cycle accident ruins my left knee and find difficulties with the driver. Now out of the bleu I tried to work with the straight left arm and eliminate the left retracted arm... and you know what? It works! Now I can hit my drive where I want,draw or fade......no problem at all. Thanks for the clear explanation
Very good 👍
I've played golf for 40 years and never have heard this important distinction. This is major for me. Thank you so much...Maybe now, I will be able to break par for an entire 18 hole round and get in the 60's.
Excellent, I found this out by myself and here you have explanation. Thanks a lot!! Great thing for Golf!!
Glad it helped!
@@ToddGravesGolf Thanks Todd, I just received a copy of your book! I am trying to help my son (21 years old) handicap 4 to improve his swing. He use to compite here in Peru but we never got him in the correct technique I think. Maybe this time might work, He his commited to apply the changes...
@@andrescerdajullian1400 Hello Andres. I work with a great 21 year old player named Roberto Lebrija. He has improved greatly with the Single Plane Swing. Feel free to email me at Toddg@gravesgolf.com to discuss you son if you would like my help. Thanks.
@@ToddGravesGolf Thank you very much Todd, good to know you work with young adults also (very hard to fix I suppose ), just sent you an email.
Super cool golf tip thank you
Any time!
Just bought your book. Cannot wait to get studying :)!
Great Doug. Focus heavily on the address position first. Makes the rest so much easier.
@@ToddGravesGolf Thank You!
Perfekt describt. Now I understand Moe Norman much better! 👍
Thanks
Moe once said the golf swing was "Sensation of positions". I've carried that with me for years and it's worked wonders for me. Moe's philosophy on the golf swing was second to none!
Awesome video. I'm going to try that.
Thanks.
I bought the Moe Book about oh 30 years ago i used it i loved it and a scratch player played in our group and change me you'll be a better player well it was good for many years seen Bryson went back to it i hit long again im 74 the trick is finding the right clubs especially the driver i went thru dozens till i found it
And nothing ever hurts... A huge deal for golfers who love the sport and would like to play pain free golf...
You're the best buddy!!!
Can’t wait to try this
You’re the best Todd!!! I think when your coaching career is over, you will have done more to help people in the sport of golf than any other teacher.
Hope so! Thanks..
Mr graves is the 🐐🐐
thank you so much for this video. after going around looking for it for years. now just need to find one for iron lol
Great explanation Todd. Not sure I can do it but it sure does make sense. Wish Mo was still around to watch Bryson in action. Did they ever meet? I would hope they did.
Very interesting video mate 👍🏌️♀️⛳️
Thanks 👍
Great tip
Glad you liked it
I do this with my wedges works great, I can't get the feel with driver and irons but I hit those quite well never been an issue....bit doing this for wedges revolutionized my short game
Hello Tood, Still thank you so much.... BEST!!!! . What do you think about the jumbo grip Bryson use it? and i saw his own video as he explain to have the palm grip? Thank you
Todd you just explained Moe's swing, thanks
Hi Todd, you really convey your passion 👍and thanks to you I discovered one of the best golfers ever, Moe Norman.
As an engineer, for the drivers,I naturally adopted this position, despite of my teacher telling me to keep arms close to my body. Now i know i was right 😌
Anyway, is this applicable to irons as well?
I mean Stance (with lead foot slightly open), Grip, Torso Tilt, Right foot Stuck and Single Plane? Does any of those vary following the club you may use?
After 60 yrs. Playing golf I am hitting the ball constantly straight every time. This swing really makes a difference. Try it.
great video
Thans.
I tried playing for a few years, but gave up because my body mechanics and golf just didn’t gel. I think it time to blow the dust off the clubs and try again. Great video. Thanks
Great breakdown. I admit that I never liked Moe's swing, but seeing how you break it down, it's starting to make sense... especially with the "variables". One thing I noticed, is that at the address with the driver, the lie angle now appears more correct, matching the design of the club. I have a question though, is the hip restriction adding to the transfer of energy into the upper body and arms more effectively? Like slamming brakes on a car thereby adding energy and torque to the top of the vehicle?
Great thing about having this position with the left wrist, is that it's locked in and set.
Also if you swing with your left hand only, you'll find it's almost impossible to do it with the left hand low , in a traditional starting position. Do a single arm swing with your left hand and your wrist will automatically pronate to manage the weight of the club, and then notice how perfectly 'on plane' your swing is.
Lock the left wrist in for clubface control and keep the right hand light for generating power.
Interesting - must try this
Make a video on the v of the arms in the backswing
As a someone who has studies all methods - hogan 5 lessons etc this makes sense - my issue has always been the wrist position at impact....
Same, my shoulder rotates too far
Thanks, Mr. Graves. Brilliant. Last summer I began to switch over and scores lowered. I'm back again this summer having just played about 10 rounds so far, and I'm using more of a single plane now and it comes alive for me when I keep my feet planted. I just hammer the ball straight as an arrow hitting way more greens and fairways. The score has consistently come down. I'm not rushing anything. takes time to rebuild but I just shot an 81 yesterday, the lowest score ever.
😀😀
I noticed Brysons weird swing but didnt think much about it. I cannot wait to try this on the course. Great vid 👍
Thanks 👍
I went to the single plane method after watching your channel last year. My golf game and fairways hit in regulation improved dramatically!! Thanks you
Are you playing same length irons or conventional lengths? Thanks
@@brandonbuss3224 I'm playing modified length, 7 thru 4 slightly longer on each club, lower clubs all standard length not the longer "same length":, So my longer irons are not all the same but not the "standard" graduated length. And shorter irons are standard (they get shorter as they go more loft).
@@FBRR2 thanks for sharing your set up! I think I’m gonna roll with the standard lengths for a season and go from there on adjustments once I get the fundamentals down pat on this “new” style.
That lead knee is so important and so hard to achieve at impact when you are fighting 50 years of conventional training. Bryson "stands-up" to add extra oomph but he is a pro and spends his days practicing to his own specific model swing. Using Moe's (Todd's) simple and easy (but technically more bio-mechanically efficient) swing model gives a better chance of ball-striking success to dedicated but not professional golfers (ME !). After 3 weeks of working on it, that knee is a problem but when I get it right, what a feeling! The ball flies far, straight and high and that is worth all the effort. Thanks Todd.
You're Welcome.
So good
Hi Todd do you try and keep the lead wrist in full ulnar deviation for the entire swing?
I tell you what.. I started this about 2 weeks ago with my driver and I've been the most consistent with my hitting than years past. I had no idea where my ball was going back then and now I feel automatic. Started a little bit with my irons and thats coming around too. I had too much of a hit down which put me a little over the top. Now I feel more behind the ball and coming from the inside. That ulnar deviation does work wonders. Trust me. Golf is way more fun now.
Did you do any particular drills?
Hey Todd, I have a few questions. First of all I'm 17 and just got back into golf this year after a 3 year hiatus. I used to have a one plane swing without knowing it, and was a 16 handicap. Now I have been working on conventional mechanics this time around and my ball striking is not as consistent as I would like but I'm scoring better than ever. Is there any point in changing back now that I'm scoring well?
Fire, I’ve played my whole life and played collegiate, I’m
About to change my
Swing to this
Go for it. I can help.
Very interesting, hope when i try this I don't miss the ball as swing looks stretch. Also hope it gives me more distance
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Interesting stuff.
How is the club face getting back to where it started if the lead shoulder is further from the ball at impact?
Is it just a matter of addressing the ball with the heel of the club? Is there some sort of reaching move?
The purpose of the wrist deviation is to compensate for the difference between impact position and address. Watching the "single plane" swings in this video, I see that the shoulder line is slightly open to the target at impact. So there must be a compensation somewhere?
Wow. Makes a LOT of sense!! Thanks!
You're welcome
Since reading 'The Feeling of Greatness' and with no a little sadness that Moe suffered from a lack of understanding by other folk, I've enjoyed watching all your presentations about him & his swing, and that he is getting some of the appreciation he deserved through them. Moe was famed for his accuracy, & hardly ever missed a fairway, and yet Bryson, who clearly sets up at address very much like Moe, when he won the US Open, only hit roughly half the fairways off the tee. Yet his short game is not dissimilar to Moe's. It would seem that Bryson has sacrificed accuracy for length, it seems he 'spins' on both feet with the effort of striking the driver. Just wondered if you had a take on this ?
Sounds really interesting! I will have to try it out on the range this weekend 😁
You should!
@@ToddGravesGolf I did and I hit the driver all straight and 290+ yards all the time 😯
Todd... the key to me yesterday was what u call ulnar deviation... i was chunking every other shot while playing....[ i have toyed with single plane before ] i finally raised my wrist at address..[ almost accidentally ]
. and immediately started to strike the ball so much better... the weak before 110... yesterday 95...now all i have to do is learn to keep my lead heal down...lol thank you for this video...
Hi Todd, I have noticed that, upon impact, BdeC lifts his trail foot quite a bit off the ground - it is not kept stable. Which is best? Thanks
Please make a video and talk about where Club head speed comes from and how to increase it.
Your the best
thanks.
I literally just figured this out on the range today never heard or seen any videos on it so it’s pretty wild this popped up
Very good.
Thanks!
Hey Todd. What you are explaining makes sense, and it's validity must irritate the heck out of ’mainstream’ or ’conventional’ methodology golf instructors.
Great Video Todd - just wondering if it create tension on the left hand/shoulder since it looked very high level when eliminating the left hand bode
You want tension in lead side of body. Yes.
Todd- Very helpful and I have a question. I slowed down the speed of the TH-cam video and I see that you are ulnar deviating the wrist as you said. But you are also pronating the lead wrist right at the start of the back swing and supinating it on the downswing. Is this supposed to happen? This occurs when you are holding the club with one hand
Yes. I will measure it soon (I have a wrist measuring device coming). Thanks for the question.