Feel free to leave any feedback (trying some new stuff on the maps) or any video ideas. It has been a very long time since I've uploaded, but I plan to upload more regularly, aiming for every 2-3 weeks initially and seeing if I can build it up further from that. Also I made a little mistake at 5:40, but it's just meant to show the map of Ottoman Armenia I had shown beforehand.
The entire video I felt as if this was very well made, good maps, editing, audio and concept. If I had to give a tip maybe you should use more maps? (You did this really well though) I think the main focus driving forwards would be showing long term effects on other thing such as wars. Also make SURE to keep the concept of the video lesser known and interesting like this one, (maybe what if Austria united Germany? Or what if Italy united earlier? Or maybe what if Rome fell during the crisis of the third century, Anyhow extremely well done and I’m sure you will one day reach 100k+ subscribers! :D
@@gideonwlind I appreciate the feedback and support Gideon. I think you're right about the more maps thing, I'm thinking of perhaps increasing the screen time of the maps already there as well. I see what you mean by the long term effects of other factors, would require more research but tbh I like googling history and it would make for a more enjoyable product. I think I did that better in my previous videos, whereas this video was more focused on certain factors. I like the idea of continuing to do lesser known and interesting topics, but I do think I will have to do some more popular scenarios here and there (for the algorithm and also to scratch the itch of those scenarios).
@@HistorysInfluence Too be honest this video was probably a 8/10 maybe even 9/10 it was pretty hard to type suggestions. Only reason I want to support is because I actually think you have a massive potential. And I'm sure if you grind enough this will become your full-time job :)
I always see various versions of what if the Romans never invaded Britain. But there is one question that is never asked nor answered. What if the Romans never left Britain, even as the empire collapsed?
I don't think I've ever heard that idea before, very unique. I've been lazy on this channel but plan to start slowly uploading more, this idea is one I think I'll be using eventually.
important note. in 1451, skanderbeg signed the treaty of Geata, which incorporated Albania into the kingdom of Naples. if albania were independent from the ottomans, it would most likely remain as a part of Naples, Italy, or even Spain, rather than the Habsburgs.
It would have remained Spanish until the War of Spanish Succession. What could happen is that when the Bourbons retake the old Kingdom of Naples, we might see a Kingdom of Three Sicilies.
@@HistorysInfluence another idea is what if the habsburgs never ruled a big chunk of Europe, what if Přemysl II. defeated Rudolph Habsburg in the Battle of Marchfeld?
Hi ! Since im Balkan ( from Bulgaria ) i would like to see a video where 2nd Bulgarian Empire hasn't fallen yet and then getting Constantinople. It would be lovely to see a video like that it would be so much fun. I've always thinking about it. I would watch a video like that. Im subscribed i wish more people to see your videos! Love from Bulgaria ❤️🇧🇬❤️ !
2nd Bulgarian empire fell after battle of Velbuzd, after that it was vassal of Serbian empire till Serbian collapsed. Because all of army and much of economy was in Serbian principalities (Moravia, Zeta, Bosnia, KosMet, Prilep, Dejanović and etc.) Bulgaria fell under Ottoman occupation. Bulgarians asked Serbia for help. Serbian strongest family in that time after Nemanjić fell was Mrnjavčević that send army to Bulgaria to expel Ottoman troops and to conquer Costantinople. But they were betrayed by others serbian families because they wanted power. If Mrnjavčević succeded they would make second Serbian empire. After fell it was literally game of thrones. Summary is that Second Bulgarian empire was strong in one period but it was demolished by Eastern Roman Empire and destroyed by Serbia in the end. Economically it wasn't possible for siege. First Bulgarian empire was much stronger.
Very well made happy to see more alt-history channels getting traction. I wish you the best of luck and I hope to see more of your work soon. Kiss kiss -Tofu Edit: Also bless your soul for the Istanbul not Constantinople joke.
@@redcrown5154 lots of wise people were atheist or agnostic, and lots of wise people were religious, it doesnt really have an effect on intelligence nor does intelligence define if you are religious or not.
What could also be possible is to have the Byzantines then retaking Anatolia and maybe even the mamluks and more land in the balkans, but it would probably be half the size of the Ottoman Empire.
The prussian identity that existed was actually due to brandenburgbeing particularly damaged in the 30 years war. While prussia wouldnt exist, a slightly weaker brandenburg could still exist.
If Gustav Adolf had survived the 30 yrs year it’s a possibility of a marriage between the crown prince of Brandenburg and Kristina forming a Northern European power of Northern Germany and Scandinavia.
Honestly I think you've missed the easiest POD to expell the Ottomans from Europe, that being Serbian King Vukashin Mrnyavchevich defeating them in the Battle of Maritsa and capturing Adrianople, by that point the Turks were in Europe for a mere two decades.
I don't think that we would see the rise of Austria like in our timeline. The Jagellionian kings dying at Varna and Mohacs really broke their power, but in this timeline they are the heroes of Europe, they can easily check Habsburg expansion and this would cause a butterfly effect that would change our history dramatically.
I think to push out the Ottomans for good you would have needed to win the battles of Kosovo polje, Nicapolis and Varna. Otherwise the Ottomans would have kept pushing back. Also note that without the 150 years of Turkish devastation and genocide in Central Hungary and Transylvania, these regions would not experience a significant loss of the native population and it wouldn’t have to be repopulated with Germans, Vlachs (Romanians), Slovaks and Serbs. The entire demographic and ethnic situation of Hungary might be completely different.
Varna was decisive but did you know that the Siege of Constantinople almost failed? If it did, all the old beyliks(mainly Candaroglu) would revolt and overthrow Mehmed II. And Candarli Halil would make peace with the Byzantines as he always wanted and might even be allies with them against Mehmed. Who knows what a civil war at that point would lead to.
Would you ever do one over what if the avars remained in Pannonia like they kept their kingdom and it wasn’t destroyed by the franks, I think it would be interesting to see a Turkish tengrist nation in what is now Hungary although I do feel like they would have a somewhat similar history
@@HistorysInfluence TBH i have a even bigger idea. What if Charlamagne never existed to begin with? Having Saxons as Southern Vikings, Al-Andalus likely surviving a little longer maybe, Lombards if can pull themselves together remaining United meaning Rennaisance likely never happening, Avars accepting Catholicism and Challenge Byzantines over Balkans, becoming a Turkic Hungary. You also might have Reconquista failing when Muslims conquers Asturias (somehow) succesfully. Fatimid Caliphate surviving under better leadership, Surviving Mongols and Remaining Strong enough to resist Ottomans and Safavids, Creating a Sunni, a Shia and a İsmaili superpower in the middle east in a 1984 style struggle between Oceania, Eurasia and East Asia. Of course this scenerio it is far less likely but still im looking forward for your content
you showed in this video hungary as a multi etnic state, which will not happen here, hungary was etnically hungarian before the ottoman occupation, if there's no ottoman occupation than hungary remains etnially hungarian
It’s weird to imagine Balkan History and Eastern History by extension being something more akin to the western European balance of power as a opposed to gang banging on the Ottomans for 300 years or or so.
Herzegovinians 😂 I mean they do exist, people live i Hercegovina, but I dont think anyone has ever subly elevated them the way you did. I am so proud of you bro!
John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
What if Ottomans had adopted the cult of Makima, Revy, Cutie Honey, Marin Kitagawa, Trixie Tang, Judy Neutron, Marge Simpson, Wendy Corduroy, Lois Griffin, Sailor Moon and Maddie Fenton instead of Abrahamic shit?
Varna is one of humanity's most unfortunate moments. Monsters such as the Ottoman Suktans and Hitler were created by it. Europe would be a much happier and peaceful place and techywould have progressed far beyond faster due to a bigger and more educated population . Even the World Wars would have been avoided
Feel free to leave any feedback (trying some new stuff on the maps) or any video ideas. It has been a very long time since I've uploaded, but I plan to upload more regularly, aiming for every 2-3 weeks initially and seeing if I can build it up further from that. Also I made a little mistake at 5:40, but it's just meant to show the map of Ottoman Armenia I had shown beforehand.
I'd say an intresting concept could be what if turkish re-unification failed after ww1.
The entire video I felt as if this was very well made, good maps, editing, audio and concept. If I had to give a tip maybe you should use more maps? (You did this really well though) I think the main focus driving forwards would be showing long term effects on other thing such as wars. Also make SURE to keep the concept of the video lesser known and interesting like this one, (maybe what if Austria united Germany? Or what if Italy united earlier? Or maybe what if Rome fell during the crisis of the third century, Anyhow extremely well done and I’m sure you will one day reach 100k+ subscribers! :D
@@gideonwlind I appreciate the feedback and support Gideon. I think you're right about the more maps thing, I'm thinking of perhaps increasing the screen time of the maps already there as well. I see what you mean by the long term effects of other factors, would require more research but tbh I like googling history and it would make for a more enjoyable product. I think I did that better in my previous videos, whereas this video was more focused on certain factors. I like the idea of continuing to do lesser known and interesting topics, but I do think I will have to do some more popular scenarios here and there (for the algorithm and also to scratch the itch of those scenarios).
@@HistorysInfluence Too be honest this video was probably a 8/10 maybe even 9/10 it was pretty hard to type suggestions. Only reason I want to support is because I actually think you have a massive potential. And I'm sure if you grind enough this will become your full-time job :)
@@gideonwlind Thanks for the kind words. This becoming a job would be the dream, I'll try my best and see what comes of it.
I always see various versions of what if the Romans never invaded Britain. But there is one question that is never asked nor answered. What if the Romans never left Britain, even as the empire collapsed?
I don't think I've ever heard that idea before, very unique. I've been lazy on this channel but plan to start slowly uploading more, this idea is one I think I'll be using eventually.
@@HistorysInfluence what if Alexander severus survives/destroyed Sassanid empire
A lot of them didn't. Its why we have Romano British
That sound interesting... Who knows? Maybe those Americans will speak Latin
In that case North and South America would be considered Latin America.
important note. in 1451, skanderbeg signed the treaty of Geata, which incorporated Albania into the kingdom of Naples. if albania were independent from the ottomans, it would most likely remain as a part of Naples, Italy, or even Spain, rather than the Habsburgs.
It would have remained Spanish until the War of Spanish Succession. What could happen is that when the Bourbons retake the old Kingdom of Naples, we might see a Kingdom of Three Sicilies.
Great video! Your content is some of the best. I like how you analyse the long term consequences of each event. Thanks!
Thank you, I appreciate it.
What if the Western Roman emperor Majorian wasnt killed?
I remember seeing some video or podcast that mentioned him, pretty sad how his life ended.
@@HistorysInfluence another idea is what if the habsburgs never ruled a big chunk of Europe, what if Přemysl II. defeated Rudolph Habsburg in the Battle of Marchfeld?
the wre would survive for another 100 years
I love the video, keep doing these interesting and uncommon alt history videos!
Nice to see you upload again.
Cheers for the support
Don't give me hope
are you gonna make a similar video on your channel?
Hi ! Since im Balkan ( from Bulgaria ) i would like to see a video where 2nd Bulgarian Empire hasn't fallen yet and then getting Constantinople. It would be lovely to see a video like that it would be so much fun. I've always thinking about it. I would watch a video like that. Im subscribed i wish more people to see your videos! Love from Bulgaria ❤️🇧🇬❤️ !
2nd Bulgarian empire fell after battle of Velbuzd, after that it was vassal of Serbian empire till Serbian collapsed. Because all of army and much of economy was in Serbian principalities (Moravia, Zeta, Bosnia, KosMet, Prilep, Dejanović and etc.) Bulgaria fell under Ottoman occupation.
Bulgarians asked Serbia for help. Serbian strongest family in that time after Nemanjić fell was Mrnjavčević that send army to Bulgaria to expel Ottoman troops and to conquer Costantinople. But they were betrayed by others serbian families because they wanted power. If Mrnjavčević succeded they would make second Serbian empire. After fell it was literally game of thrones.
Summary is that Second Bulgarian empire was strong in one period but it was demolished by Eastern Roman Empire and destroyed by Serbia in the end. Economically it wasn't possible for siege. First Bulgarian empire was much stronger.
@@simargl614 Bulgaria was never a vassal of Serbia
@@simargl614 What kind of history do they teach you in Serbia? You know English, at least get it from some neutral sources.
Now do what if the ottomans took vienna
I like your videos my friend 😍 The key is to never give up hope . Keep moving forward and believe in yourself . I send love and support 😍❤️❤️💖💖💖
Great video!
Excellent video!
loved it
Very well made happy to see more alt-history channels getting traction. I wish you the best of luck and I hope to see more of your work soon.
Kiss kiss
-Tofu
Edit: Also bless your soul for the Istanbul not Constantinople joke.
Glad somebody caught it lol. Thank you Tofu
It would be better
The ottoman rule of Balkans was worse. They were put technologically backwards and then came communists
you cannot be wise and an atheist
@علئ ياسر ???
@@redcrown5154 lots of wise people were atheist or agnostic, and lots of wise people were religious, it doesnt really have an effect on intelligence nor does intelligence define if you are religious or not.
@@nevize6660 if a person is wise, he'd realise atheism is a meme and a joke of a religion.
Luv your channel so glad you upload, am going to subscribe
Part 2 next!
What could also be possible is to have the Byzantines then retaking Anatolia and maybe even the mamluks and more land in the balkans, but it would probably be half the size of the Ottoman Empire.
The prussian identity that existed was actually due to brandenburgbeing particularly damaged in the 30 years war. While prussia wouldnt exist, a slightly weaker brandenburg could still exist.
If Gustav Adolf had survived the 30 yrs year it’s a possibility of a marriage between the crown prince of Brandenburg and Kristina forming a Northern European power of Northern Germany and Scandinavia.
Honestly I think you've missed the easiest POD to expell the Ottomans from Europe, that being Serbian King Vukashin Mrnyavchevich defeating them in the Battle of Maritsa and capturing Adrianople, by that point the Turks were in Europe for a mere two decades.
I don't think that we would see the rise of Austria like in our timeline. The Jagellionian kings dying at Varna and Mohacs really broke their power, but in this timeline they are the heroes of Europe, they can easily check Habsburg expansion and this would cause a butterfly effect that would change our history dramatically.
The image you used for murad is actually suleiman.
I think to push out the Ottomans for good you would have needed to win the battles of Kosovo polje, Nicapolis and Varna. Otherwise the Ottomans would have kept pushing back.
Also note that without the 150 years of Turkish devastation and genocide in Central Hungary and Transylvania, these regions would not experience a significant loss of the native population and it wouldn’t have to be repopulated with Germans, Vlachs (Romanians), Slovaks and Serbs. The entire demographic and ethnic situation of Hungary might be completely different.
Varna was decisive but did you know that the Siege of Constantinople almost failed? If it did, all the old beyliks(mainly Candaroglu) would revolt and overthrow Mehmed II. And Candarli Halil would make peace with the Byzantines as he always wanted and might even be allies with them against Mehmed. Who knows what a civil war at that point would lead to.
Can you make a video about what if the latin empire defeated the byzantines
Would you ever do one over what if the avars remained in Pannonia like they kept their kingdom and it wasn’t destroyed by the franks, I think it would be interesting to see a Turkish tengrist nation in what is now Hungary although I do feel like they would have a somewhat similar history
I've been lazy as hell on this channel but plan to start slowly uploading more. This is a great idea imo and i'll add it to my list.
@@HistorysInfluence okay sounds great
@@HistorysInfluence TBH i have a even bigger idea. What if Charlamagne never existed to begin with? Having Saxons as Southern Vikings, Al-Andalus likely surviving a little longer maybe, Lombards if can pull themselves together remaining United meaning Rennaisance likely never happening, Avars accepting Catholicism and Challenge Byzantines over Balkans, becoming a Turkic Hungary.
You also might have Reconquista failing when Muslims conquers Asturias (somehow) succesfully.
Fatimid Caliphate surviving under better leadership, Surviving Mongols and Remaining Strong enough to resist Ottomans and Safavids, Creating a Sunni, a Shia and a İsmaili superpower in the middle east in a 1984 style struggle between Oceania, Eurasia and East Asia. Of course this scenerio it is far less likely but still im looking forward for your content
can you please do a video on what if France conquered Mexico
This is a topic I find interesting that I don't know much about, I'm planning on slowly making more videos and this is a great idea for one of them.
Eastern Roman Empire not Byzantium
What if the Ummayyad caliphate dident collapse
What if the papal State United Italy
What if Japan China and Siam Wear colonised
1. China was colonised
2. Siam was a buffer zone between france and uk, sooo...
I would Love a video on a history without Prussia, I am genuinely curious and hope that video is done someday.
What happened to you?
how the ottoman empire united all balkan peninsular
Key moment was battle of Marica
I fell like that my country would surely be better(Romania)
And posibly Romania could unify earlier
you showed in this video hungary as a multi etnic state, which will not happen here, hungary was etnically hungarian before the ottoman occupation, if there's no ottoman occupation than hungary remains etnially hungarian
It’s weird to imagine Balkan History and Eastern History by extension being something more akin to the western European balance of power as a opposed to gang banging on the Ottomans for 300 years or or so.
Great Video (A comment for the TH-cam God (Algorithm))
Lol, the map looks like if the ottomans were expelled from africa and asia
Herzegovinians 😂
I mean they do exist, people live i Hercegovina, but I dont think anyone has ever subly elevated them the way you did. I am so proud of you bro!
5>11 year 2000 map is inacurate and isnt in accordance with the international law
Albania would be alive, it would be part of Naples or Italy, and some parts in Epirus and Serbia. Albanians would have orthodox religion.
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
What if the Muslims won at Tours ?
We would be better off,
There were not civil enough for humanity so they got kicked out. yes.
Skanderbeg is a Serbian
What if Ottomans had adopted the cult of Makima, Revy, Cutie Honey, Marin Kitagawa, Trixie Tang, Judy Neutron, Marge Simpson, Wendy Corduroy, Lois Griffin, Sailor Moon and Maddie Fenton instead of Abrahamic shit?
Armanian resettelment isn't a genocide.
Jewish resettlement also isn't genocide.
@@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk i know
@@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kkWhich country do you mean with this statement?
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So proud of you for coming out as LGBT
@@illukos1531 a greek talk about lgbt, kinda funny
@@enjoymfs9715 Turks and Greeks are both gay 😂
“Ooh baby do you know what that’s worth, who knew heaven was a place on earth”
Varna is one of humanity's most unfortunate moments. Monsters such as the Ottoman Suktans and Hitler were created by it. Europe would be a much happier and peaceful place and techywould have progressed far beyond faster due to a bigger and more educated population . Even the World Wars would have been avoided