GT's audio design was never actually worse. Much of the gaming press was working overtime to convince everyone that GT 5 and 6 had poor audio design and engine sound samples next to... Forza and somehow no other games were ever mentioned. Curious.
@@VariantAECoh give over, the sound of the cars in gt5 and gt6 were utterly abysmal, I’d rather listen to the huge turbo sounds from gran turismo 2. You’re delusional.
@@ESKATEUK I still have GT5 and 6, and their engine sounds actually hold up better and sound like no vacuum cleaner I've heard of... except for that one race car that they added because it actually does sound like a vacuum cleaner in real life.
That’s really not a lot of time. So not sure your point. Gran Turismo is way overhyped for its overly clinical graphics. The games boring, clinical and mediocre. Nothing more.
@@ESKATEUK who are you kidding, both fm and gt7 are closed circuit games, but gt7 has the advantage of overly detailed cars, laser scanned tracks and realistic weather and graphics. If you want fun in an arcade way forza motorsport just does everything worse, go play horizon 5 smh.
@@ESKATEUK nothing was even over hyped in terms of gameplay just cus 2-3 ytubers complained about the microtransactions, forza fans jumped on to that train. Actual players dont mind. Forza Motorsport performed much worse in terms of actual gameplay which is what we gamers play :/
@@Vedanth_Kumar_453 I don’t want fun in an arcade way 😂 assetto corsa comp is more realistic than either of these games but also more fun and exhilarating. GT7 is pure clinical boredom, no sense of speed, no raw, gritty racing. It’s very average.
As far as looks GT7 is amazing. Super clean crisp color. Sense of speed is better in FM on the chase cam. But cockpit view in GY7 was awesome as well. Both great games.
(This is my opinion and I listen to others) What I think happens is that Gran Turismo from the beginning sought to lean more towards being a simulator than a simcade/arcade, and for obvious reasons it cannot have as many shakes or camera movements in the game. gameplay. , it's a more technical game so to speak, Forza leans more towards arcade like a need for speed shift or other arcade game, sorry for my English.
@@elguille6308 Yeah, Gran Turismo wants to be a sim game but it's not really a simulator... if it was a real simulator people would crash and get off the track continuously. Try to play Assetto Corsa without steering wheel and with powerful cars, you loose control very easily, I think Gran Turismo limits the car a lot to avoid people getting discouraged. Yet, compared to Assetto Corsa, it's way more "game" and "fun", that's why I have 90 hours on GT7 and 20 on Assetto Corsa. I'd really like to play Forza as well, judging from this video is even more "arcade" than GT7. I think it's the perfect balance between realism and fun. The chase camera is amazing and looks so smooth compared to GT7.
Due to a problem with the wiper animation, Forza cannot implement vertical wipers that are centered on the windshield glass. They are always tilted. Most of the Koenigseggs, Le Mans prototypes, and Le Mans hypercars in the Forza series have this problem.
well in GT7 you clearly can hear the gearbox and the driveshafts doing there thing. In FM8 you hear nothing of that... it's like the devs simply took a motor-noise without any other moving parts and went with "that should do it"
So, you didnt even highlight the real best part of this car in GT7. Do a replay showing exterior view but the FRONT of the car. You'll see the active aero doing all sorts of crazy stuff. Also make sure to trigger it's DRS to show what it does to the back wing.
Turn 10 should also do something about the game's graphics. What's up with their photos they uploaded on the forums versus the official version players' compared with maximum settings.
Forza and GT are on a very similar level nowadays. One thing we noticed is that the GT has the classic carpet effect, in which the track has almost no irregularities. On the other hand, Forza doesn't seem to have a very good atmosphere, and you can't really see the sun's reflection on this track.
Although it looks horrible, I remember chase-cam players complaining during the crowdfunded development of Project CARS that they hated a "loose" chase-cam as it makes it harder to be precise. I never play in chase cam for sims/simcade game, so I can't relate. In an arcade game, I like it when it is a little loose since it's visually pleasing.
Я хоть и большой фанат GT7, но FM мне очень понравилось, как работает подвеска, прям видно, что она отрабатывает. В GT7 машина как будто едет на ломах.
Reading the comments is hilarious. The amount of bias on both sides is just amazing! I’d say FM was the “it” racing game from FM4 to FM7, then GT7 is now the “it” racing game. Now FM(8) could’ve been an amazing game if the game was actually built from the ground up. Now if FM(8) was released as a sub series similar to what we got in 2017 with GT Sport no doubt FM(8) would’ve been received as a better game. The amount of flaws in FM(8) is what made me refund it.
The sound design and obviously graphics / light design are soooo much better in GT7. Forza sounds like you’re in an empty tunnel with the dead air and echoes. It feels more like how the race sounds as a (lonely) spectator removed from the action while GT actually sounds like you’re on track. And the in car audio isn’t even a comparison - they actually make an effort to replicate the difference unlike T10.
Sound wise, Forza wins by a mile, i like the Forza graphics a little bit more, there is a little bit more sense of motion, not an static car in the frame, BUT the Valkyrie tires looks a lot like it's floating the suspension animation is clearly broken. And the biggest problem with Forza is the HANDLING and Fidelity of the tracks, lacking the reference points.
Gran Turismo has better car design, better lighting and better sound design, but something I really like about FM even though its a small detail, is the circuit and exterior, the place feels more alive, which is probably because GT is 2 years older than FM, buuut it looks really good and realistic.
Digital foundry already did a comparison and while the off track areas in forza look better, they are not realistic. GT7 tried to stay true to the real race events and Forza has a lot of details, which are not present on the real circuits. Something that Grid series f.e. does a lot too
@@GTAracingUK yes but they sound very different from one another in real life. In the game it sounds like they used the same sound file and just changed the pitch
Didn't appreciate the suspesion on FM till I watched this. Seeing the car turn like Mario Kart in GT just seems so off putting now. Car Model looks better in GT tho
Everything in GT 7 looks more crisp and sharp with the colors looking much more deep. The colors in Forza look washed out and everything looks less life like.
Can you please explain to me why this two games are call simcade and what do people mean when they say there physics are forgiven,and how is asserto corsa more realistic than both, kindly explain with full details
Google search... Assetto most likely has more realistic track conditions (road imperfections) tire temp, brake temp/fade, engine failure, or anything else that can break on a car. Brake sounds in assetto will probably be more realistic.
@@InTheZone85that’s like 1/10th of why Assetto corsa is more realistic. The physic engine in general is more accurate to real life and most tracks are more accurate than simcade tracks.
ive never designed a game. But Playground games who made Horizen 5 look stunning. Are also under MS with Turn 10. Why couldn't they just bring on the playground devs to help with graphics simce they obviously had no clue what the hell they were doing
I’ve never seen a comment section as divisive as this 💀 damn can’t we all get along? As nice and refreshing FM is; GT series is just tad better in nearly everything, I was a huge GT head until I got into Horizon (which has slightly died for me) but FM is fun and great which lets be honest that’s not what we’re looking for. Ofc this is the title of the video, but when it comes to mechanics, graphical design, model rendering, even sound management…you can’t deny the quality of GT, I mean come on? It can only get better if done right, which is what they’ve been doing. FM needs to get it together and produce a pure driving simulator because this most recent release is just terrible. Stop glazing on FM and realize their are things some games just can’t do as good as the other guys at. Think about it…if GT made an open world racing game…imagine. You all will bow. Even the NFS soy boys.
You know, the quality isn't there in Forza. Not in -game. Pause the replay of you driving at speed in Forza from a side angle and tell me what you see in the wheels. And then do the same in GT7. Forza has been using the same game engine forever with really no tweaks other than frame rate.
Look i get it, gt7 looks better, it's more clean and has better color palettes in general, but it's crazy to me when people say gt7 sounds better, i mean we are talking about a screaming v12, one of the best sounding period, yet it sounds so muffled in gt7. Watch this video then bring up good wood run of the Valkyries irl and you'd understand what im talking about
The thing is gt7 sound more accurate yes its a bit muffled on some cars, if you driving the valkyrie in cockpit it sounds pretty close to reallife one, its just chase cam view thats to muted,but the tone is offen more accurate campared to fm, and look the camparsion with lfa gt7 is in a complety different league than fm, fm fucked up the lfa sound, and the other thing is gt7 has much more impact on how they cars sounds when you upgrade them in fm the sounds barely changes witch is strange becouse fh5 does this well to
@@andreasmoller9798 how can it be "accurate" and "realistic" when it's so muted that it sounds as if it was recorded in a bathroom.. i still stand by my point, pd needs to keep working on their car sounds, the improvements are there compared to say gt6, but i still think overall fm is better
@@belhedizied8937 fm is less accurate, tone is much more accurate in gt7, yes gt7 can be a bit muted in chase cam for some cars, in cookpit view the valkyrie sounds amazing through in gt7, the new fm does not have good sounds, its the worst sounding forza yet, both fh5 and gt7 has a lot better sounds, fm also have problems With shifting witch is to slow specially for cars using dct, fm back in fm4 had much better sounds at the time when we jag gt5, but the tables has pretty much turn the other way around now, just because a car is loud dosen’t make it good, and to many cars in fm is to loud specially stock, upgrades dosen’t have huge impact either on the sound in fm while in both fh5 and gt7 the sounds changes much more after you put upgrades on them
@@andreasmoller9798 that's because fm is not trying to be realistic, while both games are considered sim-cades, gt7 tries to be more more accurate to real life with lighting, weather, handling physics etc.. while fm has always been more arcady, requires less skill to have more fun, which is totally fine because in my book, unless your ac or iracing, I wouldn't care about realism, and when it comes to sound, gt7 is nothing like real life, for example, last year i heard one of the best straight six engines maybe period, that of the e46 m3, it was literally screaming and it was stock, but in gt7 it sounds dead, people need to understand that "realistic" doesn't automatically translate to "better", especially in a racing game that doesn't allow you to even change your tire pressure.
@@belhedizied8937 i can agree on e46 m3 it lacks a bit on gt7 but overall the sounds are pretty good, and they have reach point where they have more accurate sounds than fm if you cover in total for all cars, and dont forget that previous forza motorsport games had much more accurate sounds up to fm6 they was really good and after that they went downhill, witch is really strange since fh5 step it up from fh4, but that never carried over to fm, but where gt7 really shines is when you starting upgrading the cars they sounds so different to its stock version
GT7 doesn''t look great on this circuit. Sometime FM looks better than GT7 on the external camera view. And this is the case on this video. But most of the time, on most tracks, GT7 looks better. This just shows that something is holding back FM here. Probably the series S?
The GT7 was released for PS4, so the Series S is definitely not the issue here. The real problem is developers who want to remain in the same false illusion of “maintaining what is already good” and never evolving.
Wow, the amount of comments saying that GT7 sounds better is quite HILARIOUS, people have hearing problems i guess. Forza has much more sound layers with higher quality samples! This is coming from a GT7 player. What the hell people, turn down the bias in your mind!
The sound on FM is really good with the resonance near walls and such. GT7 feels a little toned down in the sound department and misses out on that extra high end detail. RT sound makes a huge difference. I prefer the material appearance on the cars in FM, but love the overall detail of the cars in GT7. FM wins on more realistic lighting of the vehicles on track. The cars in GT7 have always felt a bit dark and disconnected from the environment.
GT 7 is better but im biast as im a ps5 owner...the ps5 is a great console and im so glad i bought one...built in dvd and ultra hd blu ray player and amazing games with amazing immersive graphics..whats not to like?
@@XAV-117 ps5 is wiping the floor with xbox. gt7 has sold more copies in the first couple years than it's predecessors. ms sucks at consumer stuff. they only know how to keep business happy with windows / ms office, and they suck at that too.
FH5 slams out both of these in terms of exterior sound but GT7 does have accurate interior sound tho, perfect sound would've been a mix of GT7 and FH5 in some ways
Because T10 cut every corner possible with FM. Every. Corner. Possible. They're now trying to save face and scramble to correct their horrendous mistakes. They knew what they did, they just thought we wouldn't notice.
Visually Forza is far far ahead. However the game itself being a trash scam unplayable online experience, I would not recommend it at its unjustified full price.
Am I the only one who thinks Forza Motorsport looks more realistic no matter how you look at it? Forza Motorsport's depiction of rain is amazing! But as expected, GT is the better Japanese car. (P.S.) I understand everyone's opinions, but this is just my personal opinion.
@@abdprz Well, we all have different ways of thinking, so it can't be helped. My real answer is "both are fine." Both have good points and bad points. I think this is the best answer!
Nah I agree with you. Fine details on car models are definitely a lot better in GT7. I also really love how GT7 looks at night aswell. However, looking at any random still from the game I think Forza generally looks more like real life. The other comment in your thread that mentions rain being unrealistic is nonsense. Both games simulate weather changing and the track slowly becoming wetter. I also think Forza being more “washed out” doesn’t make it less realistic. GT7 clearly has exaggerated colours, contrast and light reflections. Honestly both games look incredible I really don’t understand the hate on Forza graphics
@@joescivic Well, if you want to make it resemble reality, then maybe that's the case. But in the end, it's just a fake game. Xbox is the next generation, but it has its limits. This is what I think: ``Expecting too much.'' I'm Japanese, so I don't know if it's a good fit, but it's not good to expect too much from anime, dramas, and games. The people who make Forza Motorsport are the same people, so both humans and machines have their limits. I'm not criticizing GT, I think both are good. By the way, this is a translation, so I'm sorry if there's anything weird about it 💦
@@menntanaexists opinions and facts. facts: GT7 has better sounds, models cars, reflections, Illumination, Physics FM8 had a great downgrade looks like a remastered, FM8 has better trees on the circuits
This is true, you watch 90% of comparison videos on here and it's always GT7 with a car in the showroom, never during a race. Also, they still use 2D trees lol, and that god awful fixed chase camera, absolutely killing any sense of speed.
From the trailing perspective I agree. In GT7 it looks slower and I personally don't like how the car and view feels in GT7. I haven't tried it in FM but it looks good. I usually race with the hood visible in GT7 and have no complaints about it.
There is 100% more detail in forza. The world looks more realistic and more is being rendered. However on my pc maxed out, it just has issues. It’s too white washed, and it has this weird issue with blur. Until they fix it, if they fix it. I’m not gonna play it.
No, añadir más elementos al entorno no lo hace más realista, realista es ser fiel a la realidad siendo obvios, como en el caso de GT. Tienes comparativas por todo Internet. En cuanto a modelado y detalle en los vehículos ni mencionarlo. Gran Turismo apisona a Forza.
Hard to believe not too long ago GT had the worse audio design and now it’s one of the best.
GT's audio design was never actually worse.
Much of the gaming press was working overtime to convince everyone that GT 5 and 6 had poor audio design and engine sound samples next to... Forza and somehow no other games were ever mentioned. Curious.
Behave.
@@VariantAECoh give over, the sound of the cars in gt5 and gt6 were utterly abysmal, I’d rather listen to the huge turbo sounds from gran turismo 2. You’re delusional.
@@ESKATEUK
I still have GT5 and 6, and their engine sounds actually hold up better and sound like no vacuum cleaner I've heard of... except for that one race car that they added because it actually does sound like a vacuum cleaner in real life.
They still need work
The interior in GT7 is more accurate, things are missing on the steering Wheel in FM like the lights or the animations
The exterior is more accurate in GT7 as well.. FM didn't even have active aero.
the taillights look different ... arent they not laserscant?@@P2000Camaro
@@P2000Camaro they had to realize they were going to get called out on that
GT7 released almost 2 years ago now… FM8 just 3 months ago. Let that sink in.
That’s really not a lot of time. So not sure your point. Gran Turismo is way overhyped for its overly clinical graphics. The games boring, clinical and mediocre. Nothing more.
@@ESKATEUK who are you kidding, both fm and gt7 are closed circuit games, but gt7 has the advantage of overly detailed cars, laser scanned tracks and realistic weather and graphics. If you want fun in an arcade way forza motorsport just does everything worse, go play horizon 5 smh.
@@ESKATEUK nothing was even over hyped in terms of gameplay just cus 2-3 ytubers complained about the microtransactions, forza fans jumped on to that train. Actual players dont mind. Forza Motorsport performed much worse in terms of actual gameplay which is what we gamers play :/
@@Vedanth_Kumar_453 I don’t want fun in an arcade way 😂 assetto corsa comp is more realistic than either of these games but also more fun and exhilarating. GT7 is pure clinical boredom, no sense of speed, no raw, gritty racing. It’s very average.
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As far as looks GT7 is amazing. Super clean crisp color. Sense of speed is better in FM on the chase cam. But cockpit view in GY7 was awesome as well. Both great games.
(This is my opinion and I listen to others) What I think happens is that Gran Turismo from the beginning sought to lean more towards being a simulator than a simcade/arcade, and for obvious reasons it cannot have as many shakes or camera movements in the game. gameplay. , it's a more technical game so to speak, Forza leans more towards arcade like a need for speed shift or other arcade game, sorry for my English.
@@elguille6308kkkk, guy, GT7 is so simcade as FM8...
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@@elguille6308 Yeah, Gran Turismo wants to be a sim game but it's not really a simulator... if it was a real simulator people would crash and get off the track continuously. Try to play Assetto Corsa without steering wheel and with powerful cars, you loose control very easily, I think Gran Turismo limits the car a lot to avoid people getting discouraged. Yet, compared to Assetto Corsa, it's way more "game" and "fun", that's why I have 90 hours on GT7 and 20 on Assetto Corsa.
I'd really like to play Forza as well, judging from this video is even more "arcade" than GT7. I think it's the perfect balance between realism and fun. The chase camera is amazing and looks so smooth compared to GT7.
Due to a problem with the wiper animation, Forza cannot implement vertical wipers that are centered on the windshield glass. They are always tilted. Most of the Koenigseggs, Le Mans prototypes, and Le Mans hypercars in the Forza series have this problem.
Forza doesn't even shade inside the wheels, it feels like they hardly care.
Your comment doesn't make any sense, the wheels are entirely different
Aston Martin logo is missing on the front in FM
I'm a long time Forza Motorsport fan and even i'm rooting for Gran Turismo 7
That GT7 engine rev is just sublime
well in GT7 you clearly can hear the gearbox and the driveshafts doing there thing. In FM8 you hear nothing of that... it's like the devs simply took a motor-noise without any other moving parts and went with "that should do it"
GT7 LOOKS ABSOLUTELY STUNNING
Why?
Agreed the car detail is unmatched
@@bungwohlio Because it looks WAY better than the other clown show trash beta boy arcade racer that only people who can't drive play. That's why...
@@Eat-MyGoal you gotta get your eyes checked. 3:58 forza is just night and day better
@@andreasmoller9798 What car detail if you can't open the hood and trunk in gran turdismo 7?
So, you didnt even highlight the real best part of this car in GT7. Do a replay showing exterior view but the FRONT of the car. You'll see the active aero doing all sorts of crazy stuff. Also make sure to trigger it's DRS to show what it does to the back wing.
Turn 10 should also do something about the game's graphics. What's up with their photos they uploaded on the forums versus the official version players' compared with maximum settings.
It’s called Xbox marketing
It's marketing. Or maybe the lost the game halfway through development.
The spoiler isn't active on Forza
Forza and GT are on a very similar level nowadays. One thing we noticed is that the GT has the classic carpet effect, in which the track has almost no irregularities. On the other hand, Forza doesn't seem to have a very good atmosphere, and you can't really see the sun's reflection on this track.
GT7's chase camera feels like the car is in a fixed position. It's like the track is moving instead of the car.
Although it looks horrible, I remember chase-cam players complaining during the crowdfunded development of Project CARS that they hated a "loose" chase-cam as it makes it harder to be precise.
I never play in chase cam for sims/simcade game, so I can't relate. In an arcade game, I like it when it is a little loose since it's visually pleasing.
@@galakstiv Yes, that's why we should have options, and GT7 options max or no movement is almost the same thing.
Loose camera sucks when playing competitive. I totally hate it as I need to see the corners coming and not the side of my car.
@@andersonsilveira344 that's why we should have an option slider...
Gt7 was made with the cockpit cam in mind
Wow… Forza really looks and sounds amazing!
Я хоть и большой фанат GT7, но FM мне очень понравилось, как работает подвеска, прям видно, что она отрабатывает. В GT7 машина как будто едет на ломах.
Reading the comments is hilarious. The amount of bias on both sides is just amazing!
I’d say FM was the “it” racing game from FM4 to FM7, then GT7 is now the “it” racing game. Now FM(8) could’ve been an amazing game if the game was actually built from the ground up. Now if FM(8) was released as a sub series similar to what we got in 2017 with GT Sport no doubt FM(8) would’ve been received as a better game. The amount of flaws in FM(8) is what made me refund it.
When you watch on a bigger screen I noticed the shadows on the trees and fence have to load in on gt7 but on Forza they are already loaded in
And?? GT is better anyway.
Where is the light shifting on the steering wheel on FM?
Details auf der Strecke im Hintergrund bauen bei GT7 deutlich auf !
У Форзы больше деталей, лучше красивее спецэффекты, туман, ночь, ливень, гроза. Интереснее карьера. Идеальная замена ГТ7 для ПК.
The lens distortion in forza makes the cars look so strange 😂
GT looks much better, but there is pop up in both. You would not notice if playing I don’t expect, but watching you can see it
I am looking for the Nordscheilfle ring when it will be done a one lap comparison it will be nice to see who is the best...
something to look forward to
The sound design and obviously graphics / light design are soooo much better in GT7. Forza sounds like you’re in an empty tunnel with the dead air and echoes. It feels more like how the race sounds as a (lonely) spectator removed from the action while GT actually sounds like you’re on track. And the in car audio isn’t even a comparison - they actually make an effort to replicate the difference unlike T10.
GT7🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯
I went back and played FH5 after FM8, and jesus it made me wish Turn10 hand graphics over to PG. Or GT7 to be on XBX or AC on consoles to be better...
Sound wise, Forza wins by a mile, i like the Forza graphics a little bit more, there is a little bit more sense of motion, not an static car in the frame, BUT the Valkyrie tires looks a lot like it's floating the suspension animation is clearly broken. And the biggest problem with Forza is the HANDLING and Fidelity of the tracks, lacking the reference points.
Sound quality? Maybe. Realism in car sounds? GT7 is FAR superior (that's a fact).
they really went back to horizon 4 sound quality on this one
Sound is better on forza
@@giovadidas Hahahahahahaha Hahahahaha. Kid.
Sounds much better in FM.
Gran Turismo has better car design, better lighting and better sound design, but something I really like about FM even though its a small detail, is the circuit and exterior, the place feels more alive, which is probably because GT is 2 years older than FM, buuut it looks really good and realistic.
Digital foundry already did a comparison and while the off track areas in forza look better, they are not realistic. GT7 tried to stay true to the real race events and Forza has a lot of details, which are not present on the real circuits. Something that Grid series f.e. does a lot too
@@Dany_Fox1 oh wow! I didn't know that, It seems really detailed though but yeah, thank u for enlightening me
did Zack Snyder made GT7 its so damn dark
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Sounds better in FH5 than in Motorsport. Motorsport sounds like a mildly tweaked GMA T.50. It also looks way better in GT
Mildly tweeked GMA, guess what mate they both have a cosworth engine that are closely related
@@GTAracingUK yes but they sound very different from one another in real life. In the game it sounds like they used the same sound file and just changed the pitch
Didn't appreciate the suspesion on FM till I watched this. Seeing the car turn like Mario Kart in GT just seems so off putting now. Car Model looks better in GT tho
Graficamente eu achei o granturismo um pouco melhor e tem as corres mais vivas,mas os dois ficaram bons
Everything in GT 7 looks more crisp and sharp with the colors looking much more deep. The colors in Forza look washed out and everything looks less life like.
GT cartoony. Forza realistic
The lighting in forza looks a lot more realistiv like what youd see in a raceday recording. Gt7 looks cool but it still looks like a game
I prefer the look of Forza
honestly Forza Horizon did it better than both
実物の音の忠実度では外の音は圧倒的にフォルツァの勝ち。ヴァルキリーはまんまあの感じで甲高く聞こえます。
グランツーリスモは室内で響く音が外の視点で聞こえているかのような感じ。
グランツーリスモは全車種に言えることなんですが、エンジンの唸りだけ強調されてマフラーの排気音があまりにも小さすぎるんですよね。
スーパーカーやレーシングカーやカスタマイズカーでそれが特に現れててグランツーリスモの車の音の、リアリティはあるけど何故かショボい原因はそれなんだと思います。
車内の音はフォルツァもグランツーリスモも実物での聞こえ方とは違いますね。
Chase cam in GT7 makes cars appear they are driving on a treadmill
Nice!
But who has the more accurate wheel design, cause the GT7 car doesn't have the Honeycomb type wheels like the car in Forza 6:46
Both wheels are used for the car
@@mahiru20teninteresting 🤔
GT7 is the king! The new FM is 10 years back...
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Forza Sounds and drives better. GT looks better. It’s always been that, this is no different lol.
Can you please explain to me why this two games are call simcade and what do people mean when they say there physics are forgiven,and how is asserto corsa more realistic than both, kindly explain with full details
Google search...
Assetto most likely has more realistic track conditions (road imperfections) tire temp, brake temp/fade, engine failure, or anything else that can break on a car. Brake sounds in assetto will probably be more realistic.
@@InTheZone85that’s like 1/10th of why Assetto corsa is more realistic. The physic engine in general is more accurate to real life and most tracks are more accurate than simcade tracks.
Nice work man
Appreciate it
車のモデリングに関してはグランツーリスモが圧倒的に勝ってます。
ですがフォルツァがしょぼいわけではなく、フォルツァのモデリングもかなりレベル高いです。エンジンルームなどもモデリングしてる分そこはフォルツァの勝ちです。
ただ、音に関してフォルツァがしょぼくてグランツーリスモがすごいと言っている人達は実際のスーパーカーやカスタマイズしたスポーツカーやレーシングカーの排気音を近くで聞いたことないんでしょうか？
どう考えてもこの車種の音はフォルツァの方が圧倒的に実車に近いです。
グランツーリスモはエンジンの唸りと全車種使い回しの無駄にうるさいミッションノイズだけ目立ってて、マフラーの排気音は全然聞こえません。
後方視点で1番うるさいのはマフラーの排気音のはずでしょ？
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ハイハイグランツーリスモアンチさんFORZAが海外で不評でイライラしてて可哀想だね
ive never designed a game. But Playground games who made Horizen 5 look stunning. Are also under MS with Turn 10. Why couldn't they just bring on the playground devs to help with graphics simce they obviously had no clue what the hell they were doing
Cars model in GT is better than FM, but maps in FM look better
I would say that in beginning of 2024 forza is the unique game that make me play Xbox. Ps5 to all another games and it’s exclusives.
I’ve never seen a comment section as divisive as this 💀 damn can’t we all get along? As nice and refreshing FM is; GT series is just tad better in nearly everything, I was a huge GT head until I got into Horizon (which has slightly died for me) but FM is fun and great which lets be honest that’s not what we’re looking for. Ofc this is the title of the video, but when it comes to mechanics, graphical design, model rendering, even sound management…you can’t deny the quality of GT, I mean come on? It can only get better if done right, which is what they’ve been doing. FM needs to get it together and produce a pure driving simulator because this most recent release is just terrible. Stop glazing on FM and realize their are things some games just can’t do as good as the other guys at.
Think about it…if GT made an open world racing game…imagine. You all will bow. Even the NFS soy boys.
Just so every one knows. I’m an NFS soy boy 💀
You know, the quality isn't there in Forza. Not in -game. Pause the replay of you driving at speed in Forza from a side angle and tell me what you see in the wheels. And then do the same in GT7. Forza has been using the same game engine forever with really no tweaks other than frame rate.
Look i get it, gt7 looks better, it's more clean and has better color palettes in general, but it's crazy to me when people say gt7 sounds better, i mean we are talking about a screaming v12, one of the best sounding period, yet it sounds so muffled in gt7. Watch this video then bring up good wood run of the Valkyries irl and you'd understand what im talking about
The thing is gt7 sound more accurate yes its a bit muffled on some cars, if you driving the valkyrie in cockpit it sounds pretty close to reallife one, its just chase cam view thats to muted,but the tone is offen more accurate campared to fm, and look the camparsion with lfa gt7 is in a complety different league than fm, fm fucked up the lfa sound, and the other thing is gt7 has much more impact on how they cars sounds when you upgrade them in fm the sounds barely changes witch is strange becouse fh5 does this well to
@@andreasmoller9798 how can it be "accurate" and "realistic" when it's so muted that it sounds as if it was recorded in a bathroom.. i still stand by my point, pd needs to keep working on their car sounds, the improvements are there compared to say gt6, but i still think overall fm is better
@@belhedizied8937 fm is less accurate, tone is much more accurate in gt7, yes gt7 can be a bit muted in chase cam for some cars, in cookpit view the valkyrie sounds amazing through in gt7, the new fm does not have good sounds, its the worst sounding forza yet, both fh5 and gt7 has a lot better sounds, fm also have problems With shifting witch is to slow specially for cars using dct, fm back in fm4 had much better sounds at the time when we jag gt5, but the tables has pretty much turn the other way around now, just because a car is loud dosen’t make it good, and to many cars in fm is to loud specially stock, upgrades dosen’t have huge impact either on the sound in fm while in both fh5 and gt7 the sounds changes much more after you put upgrades on them
@@andreasmoller9798 that's because fm is not trying to be realistic, while both games are considered sim-cades, gt7 tries to be more more accurate to real life with lighting, weather, handling physics etc.. while fm has always been more arcady, requires less skill to have more fun, which is totally fine because in my book, unless your ac or iracing, I wouldn't care about realism, and when it comes to sound, gt7 is nothing like real life, for example, last year i heard one of the best straight six engines maybe period, that of the e46 m3, it was literally screaming and it was stock, but in gt7 it sounds dead, people need to understand that "realistic" doesn't automatically translate to "better", especially in a racing game that doesn't allow you to even change your tire pressure.
@@belhedizied8937 i can agree on e46 m3 it lacks a bit on gt7 but overall the sounds are pretty good, and they have reach point where they have more accurate sounds than fm if you cover in total for all cars, and dont forget that previous forza motorsport games had much more accurate sounds up to fm6 they was really good and after that they went downhill, witch is really strange since fh5 step it up from fh4, but that never carried over to fm, but where gt7 really shines is when you starting upgrading the cars they sounds so different to its stock version
Has forzas problems been fixed with updates yet? I’ve decided to not play the game until they fix it lol.
give it a year then ;)
Forza's problems are totally fixable, it has great potential. FM already better then 3 month ago, but there are still a lot of work.
There is just something off about Forza Motorsport
GT7 doesn''t look great on this circuit. Sometime FM looks better than GT7 on the external camera view. And this is the case on this video. But most of the time, on most tracks, GT7 looks better. This just shows that something is holding back FM here. Probably the series S?
The people behind the game are holding back forza lmao. devs are a bunch of idiots
The GT7 was released for PS4, so the Series S is definitely not the issue here. The real problem is developers who want to remain in the same false illusion of “maintaining what is already good” and never evolving.
Wow, the amount of comments saying that GT7 sounds better is quite HILARIOUS, people have hearing problems i guess. Forza has much more sound layers with higher quality samples! This is coming from a GT7 player. What the hell people, turn down the bias in your mind!
I like the sound of the tires in the FM curves.👏🏻
I find it so distracting and fake sounding
@@foxesamu😂play Palworld
В гран туризмо всё хорошо, но статичная камера как всегда ужасна
C'est étonnant de voir combien de personnes préfèrent un jeu cross-gen à un jeu next-gen.
Bravo GT🙏🏾.
The sound on FM is really good with the resonance near walls and such. GT7 feels a little toned down in the sound department and misses out on that extra high end detail. RT sound makes a huge difference. I prefer the material appearance on the cars in FM, but love the overall detail of the cars in GT7. FM wins on more realistic lighting of the vehicles on track. The cars in GT7 have always felt a bit dark and disconnected from the environment.
@@joescivicCringe
GT 7 is better but im biast as im a ps5 owner...the ps5 is a great console and im so glad i bought one...built in dvd and ultra hd blu ray player and amazing games with amazing immersive graphics..whats not to like?
Forza Motorsport looks amazing with sense of real speed while driving 🚗 it's truly amazing
The texture on the car in gt7 made them look like a real car, while in forza 2023 looks good.
GT7 clearly just wash out this meme game 🤣 "build from the ground up " famous last word 💀
Ms false marketing
@@XAV-117Xbox bigger lmao
@@XAV-117 how's Xbox bigger than playstation lmao . Go play cod kiddi with your 3 Xbox friends that account for all of the console sales
@@XAV-117Microsoft itself is bigger, not Xbox. Xbox is a division of Microsoft, and it’s still smaller than PlayStation by a good margin
@@XAV-117 ps5 is wiping the floor with xbox. gt7 has sold more copies in the first couple years than it's predecessors. ms sucks at consumer stuff. they only know how to keep business happy with windows / ms office, and they suck at that too.
A real comparison. AC beats both of them. They dont compare to its audio track
With mods
Not on console. AC on XBX/PS is god awful. Best racing game on console is Forza Horizon 5 or GT7.
Forza sounds better, GT7 looks better!
Still rocking the controller for racing…😝
Forza Motorsport is best, gt7 indie game❤
they just dont sound that realistic or exciting, there needs to be more echo or something.
Man, these drivers… hahah specially in GT, are they using controllers? Omg
How these youtubers make forza as colorful as gt7? its grey by default
now compare it with NFS High Stakes.
FM8 is something that someone would make fresh out of college as a game developer (fm8 is by far the worst sim racing game ever released)
FM - most mediocre racing sim/simcade of last decade
FM 9/10 GT7 3/10 its clear as day
Lmao ur eyes and ears deceive u
God the car sounds in these games are just abysmal 🤣
Lemme guess assetto corsa has better sounds...
@@giothestupidass4136 well wouldn’t be wrong would it. So does project cars 2
Project cars 2 is the king of immersion @@ESKATEUK
Cool now do the VR comparison…oh wait nvm… 😂
Tha suspensions on Forza are ridiculous! Sport car and it looks like an SUV 😅
The sound in Horizon 5 is much better than either of these examples
FH5 slams out both of these in terms of exterior sound but GT7 does have accurate interior sound tho,
perfect sound would've been a mix of GT7 and FH5 in some ways
This car drives amazing in Forza Motorsport!
In handling is one of the best non-racing cars in the game!
Well because it mostly is a racing car
It handles just as good in gt7
GT7 looks and sounds better the other sound childish and i like forza .
Forza looks incredible inside but when you get on the track to race it looks like poop
This isnt a fair video!!!!! It should be fm8 vs Gran Turismo 3
Why does it sound like it’s been auto tuned in forza?
Because T10 cut every corner possible with FM. Every. Corner. Possible. They're now trying to save face and scramble to correct their horrendous mistakes. They knew what they did, they just thought we wouldn't notice.
Visually Forza is far far ahead. However the game itself being a trash scam unplayable online experience, I would not recommend it at its unjustified full price.
I have to go with Forza.
Am I the only one who thinks Forza Motorsport looks more realistic no matter how you look at it? Forza Motorsport's depiction of rain is amazing! But as expected, GT is the better Japanese car. (P.S.) I understand everyone's opinions, but this is just my personal opinion.
Yes you are the only one.
The rain is unrealistic and The reflections of the ground
@@abdprz Well, we all have different ways of thinking, so it can't be helped. My real answer is "both are fine." Both have good points and bad points. I think this is the best answer!
Nah I agree with you. Fine details on car models are definitely a lot better in GT7. I also really love how GT7 looks at night aswell. However, looking at any random still from the game I think Forza generally looks more like real life. The other comment in your thread that mentions rain being unrealistic is nonsense. Both games simulate weather changing and the track slowly becoming wetter. I also think Forza being more “washed out” doesn’t make it less realistic. GT7 clearly has exaggerated colours, contrast and light reflections. Honestly both games look incredible I really don’t understand the hate on Forza graphics
@@joescivic Well, if you want to make it resemble reality, then maybe that's the case. But in the end, it's just a fake game. Xbox is the next generation, but it has its limits. This is what I think: ``Expecting too much.'' I'm Japanese, so I don't know if it's a good fit, but it's not good to expect too much from anime, dramas, and games. The people who make Forza Motorsport are the same people, so both humans and machines have their limits. I'm not criticizing GT, I think both are good. By the way, this is a translation, so I'm sorry if there's anything weird about it 💦
@@menntanaexists opinions and facts. facts: GT7 has better sounds, models cars, reflections, Illumination, Physics
FM8 had a great downgrade looks like a remastered, FM8 has better trees on the circuits
Its Insane how great Forza Motorsport looks and feels
😂
Turn 10 should pull this mess from sales and go do something else..What a disgrace
Forza is superior. GT7 seems like you are in slow motion.
What TV do you have for forza because if that's on series x then it must be on a high end tv to look this good.
FORZA!
GT7 is gorgeous
GT
The sun doesnt exist on forza😂
The GT7 only looks good when the car is stationary. On the move, Forza is much better.
Lol
Bro said this game better than GT7 💀
This is true, you watch 90% of comparison videos on here and it's always GT7 with a car in the showroom, never during a race. Also, they still use 2D trees lol, and that god awful fixed chase camera, absolutely killing any sense of speed.
From the trailing perspective I agree. In GT7 it looks slower and I personally don't like how the car and view feels in GT7. I haven't tried it in FM but it looks good. I usually race with the hood visible in GT7 and have no complaints about it.
There is 100% more detail in forza. The world looks more realistic and more is being rendered. However on my pc maxed out, it just has issues. It’s too white washed, and it has this weird issue with blur. Until they fix it, if they fix it. I’m not gonna play it.
No, añadir más elementos al entorno no lo hace más realista, realista es ser fiel a la realidad siendo obvios, como en el caso de GT. Tienes comparativas por todo Internet.
En cuanto a modelado y detalle en los vehículos ni mencionarlo. Gran Turismo apisona a Forza.
The GT7 has a similar sound, but it's not as powerful.
Forza dominatiom, gt7 crying ❤
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