I'm 34 and have always dreamed of a simulator. I went through the pain of growing up playing all of PC racing games with a keyboard/mouse and missed out on a lot of enjoyment. I just got myself a Logitech G Pro and I am going to absolutely have a blast. Thank you for this video and break down of this game. Also, pleasure to listen to you talk on technical aspects and driving tips. I can't wait to enjoy it in a few days!
@@SoulOfRussia don’t worry mate I couldn’t afford to get into it until a few months ago and I’m 34 now. Good on you for taking a plunge and getting involved in with something that will make you really happy. Hopefully see you out on the track sometime.
I wish the current F1 car was still the '21 Merc. Also worth noting, you can access the GP Tour from Class C, whereas the GP Series are Class A and have very poor participation.
@@QuimFreecss At the moment it’s the W13 from 22. I was hoping they’d bring the W12 back for this season as it only ran for a year and was comparatively popular. None of the other F1 cars have been retired (legacy content) so there’s a chance any one of them (albeit slim) could come back. Williams FW31 (2009), McLaren MP4/30 (2015 and arguably the best FFB of them all) and the fan favourite/ fastest circuit car on iRacing; the Mercedes W12. Short answer; it seems to be whatever the newest one is 😅 All of them are available for AI races.
Didn't know much about iRacing so this is very welcome. The Lotus 79 is an awesome car. It has ground effects so the car gets sucked to the track by the air flow. So basically the faster you drive the more grip you have.
if you run time trials you can gain 0.10 or more safety rating an hour, if you make it to 4.0 you get an instant class promotion. its very possibly to get to A class with grinding and spending a little $ in 2-3 days from rookies without actually having to race in the rookies or lower class lobbies
I made it to B class but had an iRating below 1350 and dropped to 900 at one point. I think once you've learned basic safety and to play it safe I think you need to build up your driving skills with it too. Knowing how to be fast and race in tight quarters instead of just avoid trouble is important to staying incident free.
I'm still a rookie racing VUE and the FF1600 and finishing top 5 on average. The standing starts recommendation is golden! That is one thing I could not figure out... Just finishing a race without crashing is an accomplishment for me right now. But hoping to be racing with you one day Emily.
I really love the new Super Formula Lights branded F3 car. I'm thinking it might replace the Fanatec GT3 series as my series I do every season. The license split has been great for me.
I drove the ff1600 a lot last season and had some fun in the rain this season too. My main focus this season is the f4 Americas series. Being really familiar with most of the tracks helps a lot. I've been taken out a lot on lap one but when I'm able to survive I can usually get a decent result.
@@mad7620 yeah buddy! That's how I got through the final round at VIR grand course in the ff1600. Of course in the rain only 3 of 19 cars managed to qualify at all. I went from 16th to 4th.
Oh yes a lot of people from f1 drive like arcade, absolutely dirty, every time bumps, absolutely crasy drivers, I stopped playing because they decrease rating in second, I asked them why, what’s the reason for agreeing driving, said it’s cool and funny
As someone coming from F1 games (although I played only single player, haven't played multiplayer due to chaos and carnage from immature players) I agree the bad F1 players are giving normal players a bad name. It's really frustrating that you're placed into one bag with players like that. I try my absolute best to race as clean as possible, of course mistakes happen especially if you're just starting (been playing iracing for less than 2 months, so still fresh) and still get toxic comments like: go back to playing shity forza, leave the game for professional players, we don't want you here. I actually had a situation yesterday, during a practice session they were chatting a lot, someone said that they enjoy F1 and GT7 games as well as iracing. I commented on that saying that I really enjoy both titles as well. Man, the unpleasant comments and overall reaction from others in the game towards the person and myself was really off putting and kind of ruined my evening for me. Of course I'm not speaking about every iracing players. I have met some fantastic people that would share their builds, wheelbase settings, provide tips and even had a guy in practice session drive in front of me for 15 laps for me to learn the braking points of a track when he saw me struggling with them. There are amazing and really bad players in both games.
@@Viraniel666 I agree, I am in iracing around 2 years, license B, yes agree, I am talking about last a couple of months a lot of people from arcades trying in iracing, a lot of rookies
You’re generalizing entire F1 game community player based on 1 dirty 8yo. You think you guys are the cleanest drivers? You guys never play dirty. The fact is, there will be bad apples in every aspect of life. I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m just pointing the obvious
Recently promoted to class A, but I struggle to find any F1 sessions where there is people. Would have been really interesting to get a video about HOW to find races in F1 :)
Go with the Tour races. They run on the real world F1 race weekends and have fixed timeslots. Basically all of them go official, some with multiple splits. They a full F1 race distance so about 90 minutes of driving.
I just quit it at it´s almost completely dead (aside from the Tour) if you want to run it on a weekly basis. Went with SF23 instead. Wish they would bring back the W12 though.
One thing was missing about the Indycar. On road courses you also can map a button for overtake boost. In real life you have an amount of time to use it in races. But in iRacing they gone another way (don't know why). In iRacing you can use it 10 times a race. The boost will last a specific amount of time. But I dont remember how long it was. And I think, if you brake, the overtake system will end automatically. But this I don't remember for sure. Correct me, if I'm wrong. So, this boost makes only sence on longer straights
You dont actually have to do a single race to up your licence, you can do it all in time trials. But racing is more fun. Great Vid and really good advice on clutch setup for starts. Im a A class in iRacing but I still race FF1600 as I really like that series and the drivers are not so aggressive.
Great video. Iracing is simply the best out there. F1 series however are not super crowded as other open wheels cars are actually more fun to race with. Iracing is actually very cheap when count all the hours of fun you can have with all the free content. Dont aim to drive every car on every track. No one really does that.
Will have to try the SF lights. I "moved up" from FF1600 to F4 but just don't enjoy the car as much so I'm back in the FF1600. love the way it moves around but is still really 'catchable' ...most of the time.
I miss the immersion of F1 in iracing. No Q1, Q2, Q3, no safety car, no rain and no real different paint jobs possible. I love the physics and feeling of driving the F1 car in iracing. But without the above mentioned it is so boring after a while...especially with the participation in the GP Series. And even if you just prepare for the GP Tour, it sucks just having two laps of quali...or rather one lap since your battery is empty after that...
10:45 Pretty sure Super Formula Lights uses the same chassis as Euroformula Open 14:42 Super Formula is quicker than F2. Actually it is the second quickest car in the world some 6-8 seconds behind F1 (depending on conditions) at Suzuka
Super Formula Lights uses the Dallara 324 car, which is an update of the Dallara 320 car used in Euroformula Open, so not exactly the same car, but almost. Super Formula 23 is indeed quicker than F2.
Quite a silly take. How do you know its the same people? Because last I checked many many MANY more people are NOT paying for all those services. And they are not ok being milked and a game trying to do the same thing. Seems to me that those that are ok with paying for something like this are the ones ok with paying for those other services. So drawing a non existent correlation is just trying to force a narrative and excuse the money you payed on a title that is not worth it. The few cases of people paying for these services and complaining about iRacing are, as I said few, and most likely are paying for those services because they are enjoying them with other people like family, partners, what not. Adding yet another cost on them for no reason at all is just sad. This game is not worth subscriptions. Not by a longshot. Its a joke. And people defending it are simply making excuses to feel better about the money they wasted on it. Each to their own, they have a right to do whatever they want and all is cool. But don't come strolling about trying to justify it. Keep it to yourself and your iracing buddies that feel the same way for wasting all that money.
F1 24 got all the tracks and cars I need for a price of $62 (steam summer sale). iRacing, you get 23 different cars and 30 different tracks. If you want to race the current F1 cars and you don't have one, the car is around $12. If there's a track you don't have, you gotta pay another $12 or $13 for it. If you are like me and don't care about racing multiplayer, they have a feature where you can pit yourself against ai and/or do a ai race seasons BUT, if you don't have the car or the tracks or both, you gotta pay. I was gonna start the nascar ai race season. I finished the first race and went to do the second one and I have to buy the track to progress. iRacing has the best NASCAR racing which is why I got a sub in the first place but I'm probably going to drop my subscription because I really don't want to shell out cash for additional tracks or cars anymore.
I started playing iRacing 3 months ago and I can't be bothered buying F1 anymore. The amount of fun I have now compared to the F1 game is like night and day. I rather spent the 70 euro's for the F1 game on iRacing.
It is sad, but I honestly think it’s more the car than the series itself. When the W12 was being used, participation wasn’t fantastic but you could race it every day. The W13 is an entirely different car, and harder to drive in some ways and people just don’t have the patience to stick to it. I’ve heard people say the W13 is rubbish, it’s not at all, neither’s the IR-01, but again, it’s hard to drive so people don’t stick with it. I don’t believe there’s a single bad car on iRacing (imo) and I can’t stand it when TH-camrs say “don’t buy this car, because people don’t race it” which just exasperates the problem. Anyway, I agree, it is sad, it sucks, the W13 is great to drive!
i cant get out of rookie class because im so inconsistent, dont have enough time to practice each track enough before hitting races in the week 😢 i’m usually on the pace pretty quick, i just dont have enough consistency and usually get punted by other drivers
Just start from the pits for a few races to break the rookie curse. It will hurt your iR but once out of rookies you can then refocus on your iR again.
Don’t worry about getting out of rookies fast, it’s called rookies for a reason. And I’m aware not everyone is willing to do this, but I wake up at five AM every morning to make time to practice before I start work at 7:30 or start my day with my family. I usually practice early morning and race some evenings but I’m really anal about my driving standards and spend way too much time in private practice and not enough racing. Getting out of Rookies is a good thing, so you can be placed on higher splits but don’t worry about rushing it. The MX5, Formula Ray and Vee, all teach you how to control a car on the limit much easier than their higher classed counterparts. The more time you spend practicing these cars, the less time you’ll need in the faster ones. Consistency comes by forcing yourself to drive slow enough for your current ability. If you’re regularly going off track or making mistakes, you’re going too fast. Forget racing and work on decent practice. If staying on track means going ten seconds slower a lap, do it, force yourself to be clean by going slow. You will improve A WHOLE LOT FASTER by going slow. It will also, highlight to you the mistakes you make and will make how fast you can take a corner a lot easier to gauge. Don’t feel like being in Rookie class is a bad thing because you’ll soon discover A-Class can quite easily mean Rookie. Don’t aim to be the fastest, aim to be the best and the speed will come.
Its a huge difference. Official F1 games are more focused on gimmicks but due to licensing stay current with the F1 as a sport. The downside is that to be current, they will release new one every year, with minimum upgrades. iRacing is more geared towards hard core sim racers and puts the emphasis on tracks and physics in order to simulate racing as best as possible. Learning curve for F1 game is not very steep and helps you jump in and drive with plenty of aids. iRacing requires commitment and lots of practice to stay on track let alone be competitive. It is hard, very hard, and the learning gets even steeper as you try to gain the last second of lap time The biggest advantage for iRacing is that its content spans across a huge variety of racing series so you are not limited to just F1 for example. There is a very good reason real world drivers mainly choose iRacing and why in reality, their talent perfectly translates to iRacing. Hope this helps.
Lol his reply does sound straight from iRacing's marketing department, but it's correct though. Also, the quality of racing in iRacing is unmatched by any other racing title.
Formula 1 is the best car in iRacing but bc of some fake myths people don’t play it. I have tried every single car, a lot of them are very very fun but f1 remains the best. It’s such a big mistery and I will’never understand why its dead series
Iracing is so much better. Not to mention it has so many options to race so many cars so many tracks. It does have a little cost to it but if u buy u buy a 1-2 things a month it’s not terrible. It’s WORTH IT!!!!!
Its good. One problem, a 300 dollar one: Too expensive. I understand sim rigs already cost you a mortgage to make, but that much for a game? And you have to pay monthly? You'd be better off playing Roblox at that point 💀
@@tylersaidgg1807 Oh trust me, I get that, but I disagree on needing it to be that bloody expensive. For the average person, thats just too much of an ask. For sim racers... Id imagine they'd preferrably want a non subscription, and as well cheaper DLC instead. If you loved it, thats great! But as of now... no way in hell is it better than just getting any other sim at a price like that. It benefits them more than the consumer, and thats just non equivalent.
iRacing is not a game, its a hobby. And its not expensive when you look at it that way. Over the last 12 years I was on iRacing, I played many games but I raced on iRacing consistently. Here’s some real numbers to help with that: over the 12 years, counting annual subscription you get with 25% discount, 16 cars and 35 tracks I bought (though didn’t need to and in reality could have done half of that easily), I spent under $1.800 in total, which is around $150 per year or less than $15 per month. I raced in many different series so needed different kind of content otherwise you can easily get under $10 per month if you focus on one area only. Average social drinker will easily go through $150 a month on drinks, for comparison. Spending is steeper at start and later it settles down to something like $5 per month. Investing in proper rig is a different matter altogether but what I found was that investment was worthwhile long-term. Initially I invested around $800 for the cockpit, wheel and pedals. 10 years in, I sold my wheel for more than I paid for it (popular wheel not available new, inflation and bigger demand played a huge role) and topped that with $200 and upgraded to direct drive base and wheel, still using the initial cockpit and pedals (load cell pedals, not too shabby). So gear was another $1000 of investment, split across 12 years, it works out to another $7 per month. In total, we are talking roughly around $22 of monthly commitment, which is insignificant comparing to other stuff we pay on a monthly basis and not enough to put a dent in any decent earning. Its not for everyone and its aimed at passionate hobby sim racers who stay on service for many many years and have no intention of quitting ;) Remember, what you are paying is a regular service in organising competition in multiple race series, across oval, dirt, sports cars, open wheel series, service of constantly updating the product as per feedback of the community and a constantly evolving product. F1 game is an eye candy that changes its wrapping and sold to you every year at the same price, with very little improvements, most of it cosmetic. There is more development in iRacing between the seasons (there are four in a year btw) than there are in F1 annual game titles. Both are good in their own right but when it comes to value for money, F1 has nothing on iRacing or other sims in this segment for that matter.
I highly recommend anyone not wanting to pay for iRacing to get AMS2 and the Formula Ultimate Gen 2 and get the Livery Mods on Overtake(formally racedepartment)
Maybe for some but also not really, many people have two iracing accounts or more. But to put it into perspective, with iracing you really should not try to drive everything every where. Pick one car for an entire season if not multiple season and then just a couple of tracks try to master it. Iracing is not meant for grid and go its meant for mastery. sub for 1 year, 50$ ir is 5$? , a car is 12$ and tracks are 15$, so one season with 6 tracks and 1 car is 105$ your sign up cost makes that 160$ which sure is steep but it's not more then aaa game ultimate edition. Again pick a car and a couple of tracks and master it.
@tomatesacree4795 13 weeks or 3 months, so 34$ a month and often tracks are reused... I'm not saying it isn't expensive but I don't think it's too expensive in a way you shouldn't even consider it
@@TheDude45 No, but their subscription model is absurdly expensive. I do believe it is possible to run iRacing via controller, I’ve seen many people use one, so I don’t think using a gamepad would affect the justification negatively too much.
@@arthurmorgan8467 F12x cost every year 60-100€, iRacing 80€. Yeah you must buy car and tracks, but you can drive for a long time with the Standard content.
The thing with iRacing though, which I think is were it falls down, is the fact that it is only online. Furthermore, you have to purchase a subscription too. Those two things alone, are why I will not go for this.
The amount of iRacing frogs in these comments trying to convince people the pricing isn't predatory because they've already invested hundreds 😂😂 This game is like the Star Citizen of racing.
Its such a weird system, so you pay to log into your account. Then you pay for individual tracks and cars. Theres really no justification. The subscription is enough to run the servers year round since tbh the ammount of people on iracing is low compared to other live service platforms. Cars and tracks being $10+ each is a real stretch because a whole series is $150 and higher classes have longer waiting times. SfL have a 2 hour wait between races which is really annoying as i love to drive that in the dry.
iRacing is nothing but a wreck fest. I was a member for several years, had my A license and got wrecked down to a C. For a monthly subscription, it's just not worth it.
Too bad the game looks like utter dogsht. And price wise its the same thing anyway as buying a new F1 every year, lol. Don't matter if its the most realistic driving physics in all of existence. A sim is supposed to immerse you completely and bring you to the track. iRacing only does half the job, letting you feel like you are playing in 2010, and charges a subscription for it. What a pile of junk. Unfortunately because of all the tryhards its also one of the single places you can probably get clean F1 online racing. Whilst the rest of the experiences are just idiots crashing you all the time. Maybe AC now on LFM has something to offer, and with mods it sure does look 100 times better. A community was able to build a better F1 game than what an entire well payed team has for iRacing. Its sad to say the least. I wouldn't touch that pile of dung with a ten foot pole on principle alone.
Iracing isn't worth it. Cancelled my subscription years ago and am glad I did so. Its ridiculously overpriced payment model tricks you into thinking it must be the most realistic and the most competitive. But this couldn't be farther from the truth If you want a good f1 sim play assetto corsa or GP4
"I can't make any more of these as I was falsely permabanned from the service a few months ago." comment from MrJohansen video iRacing Crashes and Flips #10. So did you cancel your subscription or were you banned?
I'm 34 and have always dreamed of a simulator. I went through the pain of growing up playing all of PC racing games with a keyboard/mouse and missed out on a lot of enjoyment. I just got myself a Logitech G Pro and I am going to absolutely have a blast. Thank you for this video and break down of this game. Also, pleasure to listen to you talk on technical aspects and driving tips. I can't wait to enjoy it in a few days!
@@SoulOfRussia don’t worry mate I couldn’t afford to get into it until a few months ago and I’m 34 now. Good on you for taking a plunge and getting involved in with something that will make you really happy. Hopefully see you out on the track sometime.
I'm on super formula lights as of now. Love that turbo sound.
I wish the current F1 car was still the '21 Merc.
Also worth noting, you can access the GP Tour from Class C, whereas the GP Series are Class A and have very poor participation.
How does it work with the F1 cars? Do they pick the most recent one they have scanned?
@@QuimFreecss yea they stopped running the w12 unfortunately
@@QuimFreecss At the moment it’s the W13 from 22. I was hoping they’d bring the W12 back for this season as it only ran for a year and was comparatively popular. None of the other F1 cars have been retired (legacy content) so there’s a chance any one of them (albeit slim) could come back. Williams FW31 (2009), McLaren MP4/30 (2015 and arguably the best FFB of them all) and the fan favourite/ fastest circuit car on iRacing; the Mercedes W12.
Short answer; it seems to be whatever the newest one is 😅 All of them are available for AI races.
@17:09 Surprised you didn't mention launch control for the SF23 - it REALLY makes a huge difference. You still have to pedal it but it really helps.
Didn't know much about iRacing so this is very welcome. The Lotus 79 is an awesome car. It has ground effects so the car gets sucked to the track by the air flow. So basically the faster you drive the more grip you have.
if you run time trials you can gain 0.10 or more safety rating an hour, if you make it to 4.0 you get an instant class promotion. its very possibly to get to A class with grinding and spending a little $ in 2-3 days from rookies without actually having to race in the rookies or lower class lobbies
I made it to B class but had an iRating below 1350 and dropped to 900 at one point. I think once you've learned basic safety and to play it safe I think you need to build up your driving skills with it too. Knowing how to be fast and race in tight quarters instead of just avoid trouble is important to staying incident free.
I'm still a rookie racing VUE and the FF1600 and finishing top 5 on average. The standing starts recommendation is golden! That is one thing I could not figure out... Just finishing a race without crashing is an accomplishment for me right now. But hoping to be racing with you one day Emily.
Was just researching about open wheel progression recently. This video helps a lot 🥳!
I really love the new Super Formula Lights branded F3 car. I'm thinking it might replace the Fanatec GT3 series as my series I do every season. The license split has been great for me.
F4: "The driving standards are ... umm ... a bit ... umm ... all over the place..."
That's one way to put it :D
Super Formula Light is a ton of fun. It's the first open wheel I've tried outside of the FF1600.
I drove the ff1600 a lot last season and had some fun in the rain this season too. My main focus this season is the f4 Americas series. Being really familiar with most of the tracks helps a lot. I've been taken out a lot on lap one but when I'm able to survive I can usually get a decent result.
Don’t qualify, just ready to race it. I start at the back every race and a,most always end up top 10 if not top 5
@@mad7620 yeah buddy! That's how I got through the final round at VIR grand course in the ff1600. Of course in the rain only 3 of 19 cars managed to qualify at all. I went from 16th to 4th.
Oh yes a lot of people from f1 drive like arcade, absolutely dirty, every time bumps, absolutely crasy drivers, I stopped playing because they decrease rating in second, I asked them why, what’s the reason for agreeing driving, said it’s cool and funny
As someone coming from F1 games (although I played only single player, haven't played multiplayer due to chaos and carnage from immature players) I agree the bad F1 players are giving normal players a bad name. It's really frustrating that you're placed into one bag with players like that. I try my absolute best to race as clean as possible, of course mistakes happen especially if you're just starting (been playing iracing for less than 2 months, so still fresh) and still get toxic comments like: go back to playing shity forza, leave the game for professional players, we don't want you here. I actually had a situation yesterday, during a practice session they were chatting a lot, someone said that they enjoy F1 and GT7 games as well as iracing. I commented on that saying that I really enjoy both titles as well. Man, the unpleasant comments and overall reaction from others in the game towards the person and myself was really off putting and kind of ruined my evening for me. Of course I'm not speaking about every iracing players. I have met some fantastic people that would share their builds, wheelbase settings, provide tips and even had a guy in practice session drive in front of me for 15 laps for me to learn the braking points of a track when he saw me struggling with them. There are amazing and really bad players in both games.
@@Viraniel666 I agree, I am in iracing around 2 years, license B, yes agree, I am talking about last a couple of months a lot of people from arcades trying in iracing, a lot of rookies
I’m sure you were very good at the game 😂
You’re generalizing entire F1 game community player based on 1 dirty 8yo. You think you guys are the cleanest drivers? You guys never play dirty. The fact is, there will be bad apples in every aspect of life. I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m just pointing the obvious
❤ Love the iRacing content. 😊
Love the content and the racing tips! Your boy friend is one lucky guy! 😍
Recently promoted to class A, but I struggle to find any F1 sessions where there is people. Would have been really interesting to get a video about HOW to find races in F1 :)
Go with the Tour races. They run on the real world F1 race weekends and have fixed timeslots. Basically all of them go official, some with multiple splits. They a full F1 race distance so about 90 minutes of driving.
I just quit it at it´s almost completely dead (aside from the Tour) if you want to run it on a weekly basis. Went with SF23 instead. Wish they would bring back the W12 though.
@@CatToaster They took off the W12?
@@RickBeacham It´s still there, but no official season running it. Was replaced with the W13 in official races and that car is...not popular.
One thing was missing about the Indycar. On road courses you also can map a button for overtake boost. In real life you have an amount of time to use it in races. But in iRacing they gone another way (don't know why). In iRacing you can use it 10 times a race. The boost will last a specific amount of time. But I dont remember how long it was. And I think, if you brake, the overtake system will end automatically. But this I don't remember for sure. Correct me, if I'm wrong. So, this boost makes only sence on longer straights
I think we'd all prefer if iRacing reverted the F1 series to the 21 Merc which was awesome IRL.
I adore Emily!
OverTake crew, you forgot about the USF 2000 in Class D! 😅
You dont actually have to do a single race to up your licence, you can do it all in time trials. But racing is more fun.
Great Vid and really good advice on clutch setup for starts. Im a A class in iRacing but I still race FF1600 as I really like that series and the drivers are not so aggressive.
Vee > 1600 (DO BOTH YOU LEARN DIFFERENT THINGS) > F4 > SFL > SF23 > F1. It's awesome you can basically have a full racing career in iRacing
This
Why not f3?
@@WopeX98 SFL exist, F3 is still fun tho.
Very good video!!
Formula vee! Just got d class license! Great little car!
Great video. Iracing is simply the best out there. F1 series however are not super crowded as other open wheels cars are actually more fun to race with.
Iracing is actually very cheap when count all the hours of fun you can have with all the free content. Dont aim to drive every car on every track. No one really does that.
Will have to try the SF lights. I "moved up" from FF1600 to F4 but just don't enjoy the car as much so I'm back in the FF1600. love the way it moves around but is still really 'catchable' ...most of the time.
Always good to see and hear from emree. Thanks
I keep wanting to do open wheel racing on iRacing, but iRacing doesn't read my clutch as a clutch. It reads it as a brake.
I miss the immersion of F1 in iracing. No Q1, Q2, Q3, no safety car, no rain and no real different paint jobs possible. I love the physics and feeling of driving the F1 car in iracing. But without the above mentioned it is so boring after a while...especially with the participation in the GP Series. And even if you just prepare for the GP Tour, it sucks just having two laps of quali...or rather one lap since your battery is empty after that...
Class C also provides Mercedes-AMG W13 E , i just found out the Formula A Grand Prix Open + Fixed
10:45 Pretty sure Super Formula Lights uses the same chassis as Euroformula Open
14:42 Super Formula is quicker than F2. Actually it is the second quickest car in the world some 6-8 seconds behind F1 (depending on conditions) at Suzuka
Super Formula Lights uses the Dallara 324 car, which is an update of the Dallara 320 car used in Euroformula Open, so not exactly the same car, but almost.
Super Formula 23 is indeed quicker than F2.
@@Blerpa Ok thanks for the clarification about SF Lights car
Love it! Thank you for your great content.
Thanks Overtake crew for the great content! Emily is cool and lovely, as always :)) cheers from Hungary
What a great video..Thank you!!
People always complain the about the monthly payment in iracing but at the same time they pay for netflix, youtube premium, F1 TV and all that
Quite a silly take. How do you know its the same people? Because last I checked many many MANY more people are NOT paying for all those services.
And they are not ok being milked and a game trying to do the same thing.
Seems to me that those that are ok with paying for something like this are the ones ok with paying for those other services.
So drawing a non existent correlation is just trying to force a narrative and excuse the money you payed on a title that is not worth it.
The few cases of people paying for these services and complaining about iRacing are, as I said few, and most likely are paying for those services because they are enjoying them with other people like family, partners, what not. Adding yet another cost on them for no reason at all is just sad.
This game is not worth subscriptions. Not by a longshot. Its a joke. And people defending it are simply making excuses to feel better about the money they wasted on it.
Each to their own, they have a right to do whatever they want and all is cool. But don't come strolling about trying to justify it. Keep it to yourself and your iracing buddies that feel the same way for wasting all that money.
@@DCFHazardRebornChannel 🤓
its still a ton of money. And the other services have much more to offer compared to iracing...
although i dont have any of the ones youve mentioned.
@@sadikurrahman4833 iracing has more to offer than others games/sims imo
F1 24 got all the tracks and cars I need for a price of $62 (steam summer sale). iRacing, you get 23 different cars and 30 different tracks. If you want to race the current F1 cars and you don't have one, the car is around $12. If there's a track you don't have, you gotta pay another $12 or $13 for it. If you are like me and don't care about racing multiplayer, they have a feature where you can pit yourself against ai and/or do a ai race seasons BUT, if you don't have the car or the tracks or both, you gotta pay. I was gonna start the nascar ai race season. I finished the first race and went to do the second one and I have to buy the track to progress.
iRacing has the best NASCAR racing which is why I got a sub in the first place but I'm probably going to drop my subscription because I really don't want to shell out cash for additional tracks or cars anymore.
I started playing iRacing 3 months ago and I can't be bothered buying F1 anymore. The amount of fun I have now compared to the F1 game is like night and day. I rather spent the 70 euro's for the F1 game on iRacing.
I think it's sad that F1 series in IRacing is dead. Rarely anybody drives it :(
It is sad, but I honestly think it’s more the car than the series itself. When the W12 was being used, participation wasn’t fantastic but you could race it every day. The W13 is an entirely different car, and harder to drive in some ways and people just don’t have the patience to stick to it. I’ve heard people say the W13 is rubbish, it’s not at all, neither’s the IR-01, but again, it’s hard to drive so people don’t stick with it.
I don’t believe there’s a single bad car on iRacing (imo) and I can’t stand it when TH-camrs say “don’t buy this car, because people don’t race it” which just exasperates the problem.
Anyway, I agree, it is sad, it sucks, the W13 is great to drive!
f124 comes with all the tracks and this years cars for around $60 but its 3x the cost with iracing considering u have to buy the tracks individually
What's the track at 6:08 on the FIA F-4 car?
Circuit de Ledenon
i cant get out of rookie class because im so inconsistent, dont have enough time to practice each track enough before hitting races in the week 😢 i’m usually on the pace pretty quick, i just dont have enough consistency and usually get punted by other drivers
Just start from the pits for a few races to break the rookie curse. It will hurt your iR but once out of rookies you can then refocus on your iR again.
Don’t worry about getting out of rookies fast, it’s called rookies for a reason. And I’m aware not everyone is willing to do this, but I wake up at five AM every morning to make time to practice before I start work at 7:30 or start my day with my family. I usually practice early morning and race some evenings but I’m really anal about my driving standards and spend way too much time in private practice and not enough racing. Getting out of Rookies is a good thing, so you can be placed on higher splits but don’t worry about rushing it. The MX5, Formula Ray and Vee, all teach you how to control a car on the limit much easier than their higher classed counterparts. The more time you spend practicing these cars, the less time you’ll need in the faster ones.
Consistency comes by forcing yourself to drive slow enough for your current ability. If you’re regularly going off track or making mistakes, you’re going too fast. Forget racing and work on decent practice. If staying on track means going ten seconds slower a lap, do it, force yourself to be clean by going slow. You will improve A WHOLE LOT FASTER by going slow. It will also, highlight to you the mistakes you make and will make how fast you can take a corner a lot easier to gauge. Don’t feel like being in Rookie class is a bad thing because you’ll soon discover A-Class can quite easily mean Rookie. Don’t aim to be the fastest, aim to be the best and the speed will come.
How much $ to go all the way up to A and pay for all tracks?
You dont really buy all the tracks at once. Rokiem series take place on free tracks, and then there are 12 tracks for full season of racing.
Nice guide, not really an open wheel fan, but i love stuff like this.
Worth noting that the SuperFormula car is closer to the F1 car than it is the F2 car. They are very fast and very planted lol.
Also, the SF23 can be actually driven every week (although the SF Lights sucked a lot of life out them), while the W13 is almost completely dead.
I haven't driven any EA F1 game and wondering how big of a difference it is between those games and iRacing?
Its a huge difference. Official F1 games are more focused on gimmicks but due to licensing stay current with the F1 as a sport. The downside is that to be current, they will release new one every year, with minimum upgrades. iRacing is more geared towards hard core sim racers and puts the emphasis on tracks and physics in order to simulate racing as best as possible. Learning curve for F1 game is not very steep and helps you jump in and drive with plenty of aids. iRacing requires commitment and lots of practice to stay on track let alone be competitive. It is hard, very hard, and the learning gets even steeper as you try to gain the last second of lap time The biggest advantage for iRacing is that its content spans across a huge variety of racing series so you are not limited to just F1 for example. There is a very good reason real world drivers mainly choose iRacing and why in reality, their talent perfectly translates to iRacing. Hope this helps.
@@kruger78 iRacing employee much ..... 🙄
Lol his reply does sound straight from iRacing's marketing department, but it's correct though. Also, the quality of racing in iRacing is unmatched by any other racing title.
@@kruger78 I know iRacing but not the F1 games. I just heard they are quite arcady.
@@bloke755 LoL, I wish 😂
17:50 a V4? Am I tripping?
That's probably a typo: F1 cars have 1.6L V6 24 valve hybrid engines.
i liked the video just cus the Ikea livery
please adjust microphone the Sibilance is painful, otherwise great video
Can u make a video like this but for gt racing???
Me in A Class, F1 ebery time. Only 4 cars joined the race, unfortunately this won't count towards your IR or SR rating.
Emily, you forgot the USF 2000. Understanderable as it is not that popular and would not be a highly recommended purchase.
I wish they would update the F1 spec. The cars now generate twice the downforce that they did in 2022
Nice promo🎉🎉
very nice explanation :D it would be nice if you would do the same for sports car :D
Best racing term ever. "The big suck"
Assetto Corsa, iRacing and Automobilista 2 have better F1 content than the F1 Franchise.
Formula 1 is the best car in iRacing but bc of some fake myths people don’t play it. I have tried every single car, a lot of them are very very fun but f1 remains the best. It’s such a big mistery and I will’never understand why its dead series
Sowr, I knowr the spleet of caas may lead to a betta game, still too expensive.
You forgot the USF2000 in D class
thank u
8:36
i think you meant to say Gran Turismo
Can you also lose your A class license?
Yes due to Iracing's license system
Yes, but you would need to try hard, not train at all, add bad luck and ton of ignorance. Never managed to do that in 13 years.
But I can't afford a PC rig otherwise I would :(
You just need a pc and an entry level wheel... No need for the whole rig
A better alternative would be to get Automobilista 2
No, that would not be better in any way...
@@ross-carlsonI mean...Id much rather that than spend an arm and a leg just to get the full experience...
@@ross-carlson Better for your wallet* There I fixed my comment. 8)
Iracing is so much better. Not to mention it has so many options to race so many cars so many tracks. It does have a little cost to it but if u buy u buy a 1-2 things a month it’s not terrible. It’s WORTH IT!!!!!
Its good. One problem, a 300 dollar one: Too expensive. I understand sim rigs already cost you a mortgage to make, but that much for a game? And you have to pay monthly? You'd be better off playing Roblox at that point 💀
If you can't afford it, just say that. Servers cost money, sending people around the world to scan tracks and cars cost money.
@@tylersaidgg1807 Oh trust me, I get that, but I disagree on needing it to be that bloody expensive.
For the average person, thats just too much of an ask. For sim racers... Id imagine they'd preferrably want a non subscription, and as well cheaper DLC instead.
If you loved it, thats great! But as of now... no way in hell is it better than just getting any other sim at a price like that.
It benefits them more than the consumer, and thats just non equivalent.
iRacing is not a game, its a hobby. And its not expensive when you look at it that way. Over the last 12 years I was on iRacing, I played many games but I raced on iRacing consistently. Here’s some real numbers to help with that: over the 12 years, counting annual subscription you get with 25% discount, 16 cars and 35 tracks I bought (though didn’t need to and in reality could have done half of that easily), I spent under $1.800 in total, which is around $150 per year or less than $15 per month. I raced in many different series so needed different kind of content otherwise you can easily get under $10 per month if you focus on one area only. Average social drinker will easily go through $150 a month on drinks, for comparison. Spending is steeper at start and later it settles down to something like $5 per month. Investing in proper rig is a different matter altogether but what I found was that investment was worthwhile long-term. Initially I invested around $800 for the cockpit, wheel and pedals. 10 years in, I sold my wheel for more than I paid for it (popular wheel not available new, inflation and bigger demand played a huge role) and topped that with $200 and upgraded to direct drive base and wheel, still using the initial cockpit and pedals (load cell pedals, not too shabby). So gear was another $1000 of investment, split across 12 years, it works out to another $7 per month.
In total, we are talking roughly around $22 of monthly commitment, which is insignificant comparing to other stuff we pay on a monthly basis and not enough to put a dent in any decent earning. Its not for everyone and its aimed at passionate hobby sim racers who stay on service for many many years and have no intention of quitting ;)
Remember, what you are paying is a regular service in organising competition in multiple race series, across oval, dirt, sports cars, open wheel series, service of constantly updating the product as per feedback of the community and a constantly evolving product. F1 game is an eye candy that changes its wrapping and sold to you every year at the same price, with very little improvements, most of it cosmetic. There is more development in iRacing between the seasons (there are four in a year btw) than there are in F1 annual game titles.
Both are good in their own right but when it comes to value for money, F1 has nothing on iRacing or other sims in this segment for that matter.
@@kruger78 Now iRacing employee of the month .......... 😆
@@kruger78 yeah you have no life just admit it
I highly recommend anyone not wanting to pay for iRacing to get AMS2 and the Formula Ultimate Gen 2 and get the Livery Mods on Overtake(formally racedepartment)
Cute liveries are hardly a replacement when sacrificing multiplayer quality.
Super Formula FTW
Asseto corsa guy... Way way way cheaper
Way too expensive....
Maybe for some but also not really, many people have two iracing accounts or more. But to put it into perspective, with iracing you really should not try to drive everything every where. Pick one car for an entire season if not multiple season and then just a couple of tracks try to master it. Iracing is not meant for grid and go its meant for mastery.
sub for 1 year, 50$ ir is 5$? , a car is 12$ and tracks are 15$, so one season with 6 tracks and 1 car is 105$ your sign up cost makes that 160$ which sure is steep but it's not more then aaa game ultimate edition. Again pick a car and a couple of tracks and master it.
@@1xRacer well yes its 105$ but like you Said its "per season", these costs come back everye month or so
@tomatesacree4795 13 weeks or 3 months, so 34$ a month and often tracks are reused... I'm not saying it isn't expensive but I don't think it's too expensive in a way you shouldn't even consider it
@@1xRacer well its quite a budget especially for us who live in 3rd world countries
@tomatesacree4795 yes it definitely is 100% agree
F1 24: 69$
iRacing if you want to get to Formula A as fast as you want: 300$
And?
F1 games u gotta get every year, which adds up, iracing is cheaper actually
@@TheDude45who spending 300?
Its good for sure, but not 300 good.
Not saying the 70 dollar option is better of course, but 300 is a robbery 😭
@@kyperactive what for 300? 70-80 per year. To buy All These content in the first year makes no sence
and that one off investment will be around for years... unlike the 70 dollar f1 game which releases yearly and isnt even a sim.
F1 on ea is mor fun 😊
Well, I can’t try this. Way too expensive!
You drive with Gamepad?
@@TheDude45 No, but their subscription model is absurdly expensive. I do believe it is possible to run iRacing via controller, I’ve seen many people use one, so I don’t think using a gamepad would affect the justification negatively too much.
@@arthurmorgan8467 F12x cost every year 60-100€, iRacing 80€. Yeah you must buy car and tracks, but you can drive for a long time with the Standard content.
@@arthurmorgan8467 so 15 dollars or 6 pack of beer a month is absurdly expensive?
lol ok. You probably spend more at McDonalds per month.
Your amazing
Bored of EA f1 games??? BUY F1 2020 the greatest f1 AOT
thats also very nice indeed! -Michel
The thing with iRacing though, which I think is were it falls down, is the fact that it is only online. Furthermore, you have to purchase a subscription too. Those two things alone, are why I will not go for this.
subscription fees and need to purchase cars ?? no thanks
Yup, real wheel to wheel racing against humans isn't for everyone, it's okay you can't hack it...
Better than paying 80 euros every year for the same shitty game
The EA F1 guys are searching for the Brake Assist and Racing Line! 😁
most f1 guys know that using assists make you slower though.
am i the only one that noticed f1 has a v4 engine
F1 in Sebring 💀, suspension gone
A Goteki 45 livery from Wipeout HD on Skip Barber (✯◡✯)(✯◡✯)(✯◡✯)
I see Emily, I like.
She’s insane. I’m in love 🥰
@@polo424242Yeah.. "she".. 🥴
I just want codies f1. Dont make it to complicated
The amount of iRacing frogs in these comments trying to convince people the pricing isn't predatory because they've already invested hundreds 😂😂 This game is like the Star Citizen of racing.
Its such a weird system, so you pay to log into your account. Then you pay for individual tracks and cars. Theres really no justification. The subscription is enough to run the servers year round since tbh the ammount of people on iracing is low compared to other live service platforms. Cars and tracks being $10+ each is a real stretch because a whole series is $150 and higher classes have longer waiting times. SfL have a 2 hour wait between races which is really annoying as i love to drive that in the dry.
EA is so the same old
i racing is so much better
iRacing is nothing but a wreck fest. I was a member for several years, had my A license and got wrecked down to a C. For a monthly subscription, it's just not worth it.
Skill issue
@@guitarsimon1 Hardly, I just said I had my A license. I'm not claiming greatness but you don't get your A license by closing your eyes and driving.
rather play ams2
Too bad the game looks like utter dogsht.
And price wise its the same thing anyway as buying a new F1 every year, lol.
Don't matter if its the most realistic driving physics in all of existence.
A sim is supposed to immerse you completely and bring you to the track. iRacing only does half the job, letting you feel like you are playing in 2010, and charges a subscription for it.
What a pile of junk.
Unfortunately because of all the tryhards its also one of the single places you can probably get clean F1 online racing. Whilst the rest of the experiences are just idiots crashing you all the time.
Maybe AC now on LFM has something to offer, and with mods it sure does look 100 times better. A community was able to build a better F1 game than what an entire well payed team has for iRacing. Its sad to say the least. I wouldn't touch that pile of dung with a ten foot pole on principle alone.
Just say you can't afford it ... "Don't matter if it's the most realistic physics" lol
@@mang1470 I don't know for F1, but i owned a MX5 and the car was completely different from the game physics.
you really need to change the tone of your lights. U look orange and your teeth are yellow af. Besides that, good video, alot of info, thanks!!!
IS THAT FEMALE TOM SCOTT???!?!!?
It's him 🤣
Iracing isn't a solution to any problem.
try this scam of a subscription service, nah. I mean EA is scam but this is next level scam
that series are dead (F1), no one play that series anymore ..
Or don't.
uggg... I really hate that people still support iRacing. We can't have nice things because of simps.
tired of giving ea £100s each year for the same game?
give it iracing instead xD
Either way an expensive hobby 😅 -Michel
What…? No.
Hardly a lateral move. Go AC, not a pay to play rip off sim
Iracing isn't worth it. Cancelled my subscription years ago and am glad I did so.
Its ridiculously overpriced payment model tricks you into thinking it must be the most realistic and the most competitive. But this couldn't be farther from the truth
If you want a good f1 sim play assetto corsa or GP4
"I can't make any more of these as I was falsely permabanned from the service a few months ago." comment from MrJohansen video iRacing Crashes and Flips #10.
So did you cancel your subscription or were you banned?
Must be crazy thinking most people are gonna spend their money on iracing
Must be crazy not understanding what real racing it like...
You've done racing in real life? @@ross-carlson
Quality has its price
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