Unfortunately it wasn't even correct for that long (30 secs) The slide for the result of Amendment F (The Beckett Amendment) incorrectly is labled "Letwin". Im not complaining. I commend TLDR for his hard work in the middle of the night, its just a minor thing he missed.
Imagine you have planned out your entire sleep schedule months ahead to hit this nice 8h -Deal- -pass out- sleep by the end of the Month and then a week before *EXTENSION!*
@Vercusgames no no no, America should adopt this. It would make it more entertaining to watch. Get more people to watch it, instead of depending on the fake media to tell us what happened.
Oh boi. The show continues. More plot twists than in Game of Thrones. Next thing you know Jeremy Corbyn pulls out a knife and kills May while whispering "For People's vote"
Britain: "People's vote!" "No deal!" "My deal is the best and only deal!" "Cant we just staaayyy??" "*incomprehensible angry Scottish dialect*" " *ORDEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* THE HOUSE MUST CALM DOWN!" "eaaaaahhhhh" Me, from the other side of the planet: *J O I N A S S P E C T A T O R*
@@fergusdenoon1255 No one is saying it's not. Half the world understands how the English are when it comes to giving non-English peeps a voice. Indy Ref 2019? Let Scotland apply to reaffirm that they live in Europe
The fantasy behind all the parliament comedy is that they try to vote for a deal?? a deal!! the EU says that any deal is plausible after exiting the EU.. so you eider left without a deal or you implement the backstop you pay the 39 billions ect ect and then... when the EU have the money you preside apply the deal, if.... the EU have not problems with. I totally understand the UK is really humiliating but if is not backstop in place then there is no deal.. this haven’t gotten trough in parliament jet.. _Option one the backstop ergo not crush out and a sort of long staying before new deal is reached. The EU guarantee the 39 billions and the UK not to crush out. _Option two not backstop, you don’t pay a penny, the EU get the UK in international court CIADI, you crush out. And you'll negotiate a deal as 3 country There is not much debate around is really simple any outcome is shit for the UK any... and no one won to have the responsibility to implemented.
@J and M Isn't the amendment calling to honor the referendum's result quite useless? All of what's going on now seems to be about HOW to honor the result. How would that amendment be a solution?
@@RyderMCG Do you think it's funny that EU immigrants are being abused and attacked? I've been physically attacked, and I only got off without injury because one of the good Brits saved my arse.
@@starlinguk Well, that's not a laughing matter. I would like to leave the EU, democracy is dead if it doesn't happen, that doesn't make me a bad Brit, What it does mean is my government has sh!t on me from a great height
Oi! Some sleep is due, the Parliament will continue to be indecisive, the government will continue to disappoint, whatever will happen will happen... Get some sleep
I subbed to you for these live updates. I live in America but this whole brexit situation has been the worlds most interesting dumpster fire. Loving it.
You live in America and THIS is the most interesting dumpster fire? I live in Asia, and am watching both sides of the Atlantic with great interest and entertainment.
@Lokii 223 Honestly I'm talking about every leftist politician in america who shits all over the first and second amendment, and uses the constitution as toilet paper.
Absolutely love the channel, amazing how you turn this out so fast. Also think it will make a fascinating record of what Brexit looked like on the ground, it’s a real service you’re providing, keep it up! Also 9:10 the folder should say Beckett! Confusing...
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no, it's been dying for years, for instance with Thatcher making the prime minister a president instead of first amongst equals ('prime') in the Cabinet (the day to day boss government - the rest of the government are just in charge of doing what they're told), now the tide's receded, but it had no pants on for half a century
It will be really funny when the newer members of the EU deal with the shock of their citizens returning after being expelled from the UK. Poland, Hungary, Romania you can start crying now
@@ppsarrakis I know, I'm just poking fun at how much of a joke the brexit process has been so far. I truly do hope it ends with a good deal or even better, no brexit at all. We need to work to together, not split apart. Let's reform the EU into something eurosceptics can also agree upon, not tear the entire structure down. You are still welcome Britain!
@@willnicholson18 Continental/Mainland Europe is the continuous continent of Europe, excluding its surrounding islands. 6,500-6,100 BC Britain broke free of mainland Europe.
@@rolloo which is either the EU or associated countries- so saying Britain leaves Europe- especially in the case of No Deal- isnt so wrong. "No we arent leaving the only legally binding form of supra-national organisation on the continent, we are geographically still there, arent we?" well, the UK is politically abandoning the subcontinent since the EU was speaking with one voice. The regulations, the freedoms, the preferential trade agreements- when will the usual idiots notice those will fall away? Who will they blame then?
That is not it. May is stubborn but not stupid. She needs to placate a base that believes that the UK is in a position to impose terms on the EU. She also knows full well that this is impossible. Her deal is terrible if you believe that the UK could easily get much more concessions from the EU. So this is how many Brits wish to view matters: a bad deal as a result of May's piss-poor negotiation skills. From a European perspective, the UK can either accept this deal or leave with no-deal and live to regret the consequences, regardless of which Englander negotiated the deal. From that perspective, May is right: it is either this deal, no-deal Brexit, indefinite delay, or revocation of article 50. Inasmuch as she is determined to deliver Brexit as part of her premiership and she wishes to avoid no-deal exit, she has to insist on _this_ deal.
I've been watching your vids for a few weeks now and just wanted to say thanks for the breakdown. There's a ton of info that would go over my head due to the lack of insight into the processes, but your work is making that much easier to understand. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for your commitment to explaining Brexit. I am sure you know that keeping information fresh and relevant is very important for the viewers. And I know you are working really hard this days to do so. For that take my money in patreon as a way to support what you are doing now
There's an idea... SIEZE all assets untill they "consolidate their feces". Have a proper "shut in" with bar snacks to sustain them. Wonder how comfy those benches are to sleep on.
division clear the lobby means that from yelling alone there is no clear side that has it so a formal vote needs to be held, they need to clear the room to have the vote.
It's an antiquated system. Every time the vote is close, all MPs have to leave the room and go through separate doors depending on whether they vote yes or no. Then, the number of people in both lobbies is counted and the result presented to the house. Of course, electronic voting would bring this 20 minute procedure down to 2 minutes. It would be the reasonable thing to do. But "reason" isn't something that comes to mind when thinking about British parliamentary democracy.
As a german I don't have any idea about what's going on but it does look kinda fun. All that shouting and the guy with the growly voice - it's all very engaging!
Thank you, dear TLDR News team for all these beautiful and so informative videos that you create, as well as for all your effort, so that I am able to stay informed for the recent Brexit developments. It’s been a time since I really wanted to write and send to you a personal thank you. Thank you very much. I like your videos very much and a video of yours in the evening after work is sufficient for me to stay up to date. I like also very much that you strive to stay neutral and to give all points of view in a specific issue, as well as your design and easy to grasp animations. Thank you.
Why didn't Parliament hold indicative votes immediately after the referendum? For that matter, it would have made a lot of sense to hold indicative votes before Brexit so it would be more clear what people were voting for. And how in the world is Theresa May still PM?
Regular MPs have limited power to propose legislation. Most of the power is vested in the PM and cabinet, and to address your points: 1) They assumed they would win the referendum 2) Having lost the referendum, they did not wish to seem weak by asking what anyone else wanted again 3) All politicians likely want Theresa May to take the blame for Brexit, so it would be great if she could hang on a few more weeks, ideally making a few more aloof speeches
Joe Fox, I’m admittedly coming at this from an outside perspective as an American living in the UK, so thank you for your response. I understand that all from a technical and political standpoint, but the complete lack of strategic policy-driven planning for something this important just blows my mind. And why does May hold on to PM anyway? The writing is on the wall that she is the scapegoat for everyone. If she cares about her reputation, she could call Conservative MP’s bluff by threatening to resign if her deal fails.
This channel is doing an AWESOME job of educating this non-brit on brexit! I continue to amazed at how the channel is able to keep up with such a dynamic subject. This may be redefining the 24 hour news channels... I can keep current AND pick what I want to watch. Thank you!
Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems to me that the EU holds all (or at least most) of the cards here. All this talk about getting longer extensions and getting a better deal from the house seem to ignore the fact that the EU has already said this is the best deal the UK is going to get, and they seem to be against a delay that stretches into the EU election. So, the house is in charge now, but how has that really made things better? Don’t they have the same constraints (from the EU) the PM has?
Nah that's pretty much right. Brexit will be rough on Britain, and the EU doesn't really have reason to bend over backwards. So leave will be annoyed and remain will be pissed because neither of them get all of what they want. Remain obviously doesn't want to go at all. Leave wants more British control over Britain's trade and such but if they have any kind of deal they're still ceding some, even a lot of control when losing all say in the matter.
student, we know go to the second most political unstable period in britisch history, right after the Henry the VIII breaking dispute with the pope? :p
I call this a non violent ethical and economical conflict this will determine the future of the world in the next 15 years every government is watching and waiting to see the results so they know how to move forward with their international strategies
I'm an Australian, but could see what I felt was an historic moment on the horizon, so I watched live the entirity of Theresa May's statement, the debate on the three ammendments, and the voting (Despite this all beginning at around 4 or 5 AM my time). I commend TLDR News on their dedication to get this video out in the wee small hours. Well done! If I might point out a small error in the slides, the slide showing the results of the Beckett amendment (Amendment F) is labled "Letwin". This can be forgiven due to the late hour and the speed in which this video was put out. Its a brilliant summarisation of the days events... Again... Well Done!!
Someone tried to explain what all this meant when it happened, I didn't have a clue what they were talking about, now I understand, so thank you for your hard work. Without this channel I wouldn't know what the hell was going on.
I'm fed up of Labour tabling amendments just because they know as the official opposition it will be given preference, and then withdrawing those amendments without a vote. They have done this several times and it denies the opportunity to backbenchers who may have really good amendments that don't get chosen because Labour took their slot.
Dude. Even with the assets already drawn, you write multiple scripts, record them, cut the audio, then edit it all together with visuals all in time to keep up with very fast changing events. You're a legend man.
You should have a small Montage of John Bercow saying ORDDDDEERR at the end of each video. And when this brexit thing has finished send him a little gift basket for all the video content he has generated.
As an outsider it seems like May's plan has always been to put a deal on the table that was so disastrous and intolerable to the British people that she could drag things out until they were worn down enough to accept another referendum, so she could get her way and stay in the EU.
How fortunate we are to have such a gifted, noble and forceful speaker in Mr.Bercow.He demonstrates the spirit of true democracy in our disorded Parliament.
When there's a vote the MPs leave and walk back in, using one door for aye and the other door for no. So they divide. T make sure only MPs vote they clear the entrance area before voting starts. Then the doors are locked to stop late voters and unlocked after counting.
Don is right ! I'd add that the "DIVISION" part is the announcement that this process is going to take place. Notice that just before, the speaker asks the MPs to say yes or no. If there is a clear majority at that point then there is no point in doing the long formal vote and the amendment passes or not just like that.
Here's as full a description as I can provide. "Division!" = "I can't tell by the voices, so we're going to count votes!" We do 'divisions' in the US as well, at pretty much every level of government. Some boards/councils/etc. have members raise their hands to show Yes or No, or do roll call with each member stating their vote when called (the US Senate does this) or install electronic systems for members to push a button and have the vote recorded (a lot of state legislatures run this way). "Clear the Lobby!" = "Get our vote counting system ready!" "[Lock the doors!]" (We never get to see this one, so I'm guessing at the exact words.) = "Time is up for everyone to show up to vote. Lock the doors and start counting!" The House of Commons has a...gleefully antiquated way of counting votes, in my opinion, but it works. There's a Yes lobby and a No lobby, both accessible from the main House Chamber. Each member enters the lobby of the vote they wish to make, then two members assigned to count votes stand at the exit to each lobby. Those vote counters literally count heads of each member exiting the lobby. Then, after the votes are counted, the four vote counters (two counting Yes, two counting No) get together, record the numbers, and do that cute little bow-step-bow thing right before one reads the vote totals to the house and the Speaker. Then the Speaker re-announces the numbers. "Unlock!" = "We've counted all the votes, so let members in and out of the chamber again!"
As an American ...this was an excellent explanation of where things stand now. I will continue to watch for more videos ... as the process moves forward.
As an American who has become quite interested in Brexit and the UK govt the last few months your videos are very informative and easy to follow for a newbie.
Usually this type of effort spend on animation is used for ever-green content but you're going out of your way to use it for content that may be irrelevant a few hours after rendering. I mean, that's insanely industrious and deserves respect. But I can't help but feel you're wasting your talents while you could be creating content that would build far more traction over time.
I really cannot see the point of indicative votes. 1. Barnier, Tusk et. al have said that the Withdrawal Treaty is the only deal on offer and is not negotiable. It is either accepted by the UK parliament in it's entirety or else the UK leaves with no deal. This rules out Norway-like deal, Canada+, Canada++, Canada/Norway super duplex retroflex or any other weird combination. It also rules out remaining in the CU and SM. 2. MPs might indicate that they support revoking A50. HMG will not do this as it would be tantamount to the Conservative Party writing a suicide note. While this might be popular with the people at large, I think I can confidently guess that it is not popular the membership of the Conservative Party at large or Conservative MPS in particular. 3. A second referendum. HMG will not do this and support in the House is, at best, lukewarm. Referendums are rather unpredictable. 2016 being a case in point. 4. No deal. Whilst gaining increasing support among the people of the UK (according to opinion polls), MPs are increasingly at odds with their constituents and so this will no show great support in the House. 5. Long extension. I might ask what for? If I don't, the EU certainly will. This would involve the UK taking part in EU elections. The EU is already facing a rise in the EUrosceptic presence in the EU Parliament, they will not wish to see members of UKIP and Nigel Farage's Brexit Party adding to this. 6. Call a general election. HMG will not do this, T May already tried this once and see point 2 above. MPs can indicate all they want, but the EU are firm that it is Theresa Merkel's Withdrawal Treaty or no deal. HMG is firmly against revoking A50, a second referendum or an early GE. Indicative votes is, to my mind merely politicking with no other objective than to further the personal careers of the likes of Letwin, Cooper, Benn, Watson et. al. It sets a precedent that will degrade Parliament in the long term and demonstrates the complete disdain that MPs have for the mere people of the UK.
You make some excellent points however, aren't deals such as CU, canada/Norway+ etc only ruled out due to the demands put in place by HMG e.g no free movement etc. If such restrictions were lifted such option would probably become available. Tbh I think it is somewhat arrogant on HMGs part to put such restrictions in place because "people voted to end freedom of movement"etc even though the ballot paper only specified remain or leave. There were a great many options open to the prime minister regarding brexit initially. However she seemingly shot herself in the foot by placing these demands, which would seem to have caused the issues surrounding her current deal.
I'm probably wrong, but the Letwin amendments has an x because the amendments didn't pass all together. So, they made another vote on the only one that was accepted. I was confused by it too.
Yes, it should be the Beckett amendment with the X, there were a few other small errors in the video as well, it probably is a reflection of the short timescale that the videos are being turned around in.
5:15 IS THAT ENGLISH???? "... by inviting the shadow secretarysdfjisjdfijiojdf to move amendment D which standsisjdfiojdsfdjsiogfd leader of the opposition"
Bercow has always been a pleb and a bully. That he shows sense with regards to Brexit doesn't negate his obvious negative history and other unsavory qualities. It doesn't help that Americans and others with no knowledge of the UK and it's government latch onto him just because he likes to shout things, either. He is and will always be, an utter sod.
@@melchristensen8282 To be fair, it looks like you gotta be an asshole to get this lot to stop screaming at each other for five minutes. I imagine a room full of cats would be easier.
When the house votes on a motion it starts off with a voice-vote. If there isn't a clear majority for one side or the other the speaker yells "division", announcing that the vote is divided and it cannot be determined who has more votes. "Clear the lobbies" refers to the division lobbies, one for "yes", one for "no", where the MP's gather when they vote. Anyone who isn't an MP cannot vote, and thus must leave the lobbies. The MP's have 8 minutes to get to their respective lobby before they are locked out of the vote. The members then walk back into the chamber while tellers mark their names off a list. The results are announced, and the speaker shouts "UNLOCK" to indicate that the voting process is over and the lobbies can be unlocked again.
I'm not sure how I found your videos and channel. Perhaps TH-cam's algorithm, based on my watch history, feels that 'chaotic political environment' is right for me. lol However, as an American, I just wanted to say these are great videos and I am pleased to be able to watch them. I feel more informed than ever about Brexit thanks to your well-explained videos. I think understanding the world is so valuable and I worry for everyone over there with all the uncertainty and turmoil going on. Thanks for this series and thoughtful insight.
These high quality, real-time, well balanced, highly informative videos are going to prove a fascinating historical record in years to come. *Here's what people thought was going on at every important interval, as it happened*. The source can't be coloured by retrospect because it's an account of where things stood in the moment. There will be people in the future who binge watch these in order and remember with god-knows what emotion what it was like as it happened, great work!
@@iapetusmccool There are plenty of lawyers for that :D I'll say, though, those who are advocating second referendum are colluding with EU for the deteriment of UK.
I can’t wait for the next episode of Brexit! This weeks cliffhanger was great.
hahahaha XD that's true...no idea if this is the best or worst reality tv show out there so far XD
The Mueller tv show is interesting as well
You couldn't get this much entertainment from Big Brother. Today in the Big Parliament House....
Trump in White House is also pretty funny show!
Brextenders: "Oi, Theresa you slaaaaag!"
I love the disclaimer "this video was correct for about 30 seconds this morning, whatever crazy stuff has happened since then can't be accounted for"
"Brexit, Brexit always changes."
Unfortunately it wasn't even correct for that long (30 secs) The slide for the result of Amendment F (The Beckett Amendment) incorrectly is labled "Letwin". Im not complaining. I commend TLDR for his hard work in the middle of the night, its just a minor thing he missed.
Geography games during and after the collapse of the Soviet Union had to say the same thing. 😬
That intro tells me that you need some deserved sleep mate!
Deserves sleep, but also top content regardless!
Imagine you have planned out your entire sleep schedule months ahead to hit this nice 8h -Deal- -pass out- sleep by the end of the Month and then a week before *EXTENSION!*
He will sleep when he's dead
Guy needs some sleep. Second glitch in 2 videos haha. But love the videos. Please get some sleep though.
AsItIsRequired AsItIsRequired the intro wasn't top quality, that's the point
other than 'Order' I LOVE when bercrow shouts 'DIVISION'.
Storylover Clear the lobby!
UNLOCK!
This really needs a Saturday Night Live skit!
THE AYES HAVE IT, THE AYES HAVE IT. UNLOCK!
What a time to be alive.
Can someome explain to me what the screaming is all about?
5:16 "The... Shadowsecretaryofstaferereximmuninimohinuuunion to mooove amendment D"
Lmao 😂
In a past life, Bercow was an auctioneer lol
i thought that was a vid glitch :p
ORRRRRDEEEEEEUUUUUUURRRRRR!!!!!
What on earth did he said?
DIVISION!
Clear the comments!
Ha xD
@Vercusgames no no no, America should adopt this. It would make it more entertaining to watch. Get more people to watch it, instead of depending on the fake media to tell us what happened.
Oh boi. The show continues.
More plot twists than in Game of Thrones. Next thing you know Jeremy Corbyn pulls out a knife and kills May while whispering "For People's vote"
We even have a character that only says "Hod... erm... Ordeeeer"
WolfyOfHonor If collateral is to occur by the end of this, let it be JRM among them.
No chance, mate. The speaker will just stick his thumbs into Corbyn's eye sockets and crush his skull.
Hahaha that ponce pulling out a knife?
Can't wait for the UK dragon invasion.
TLDR brings ORDEEEEER into my life.
You mean OOOOOORRRDAAAAA!
Oooorrrrrrdddddddaaaa !
OrrrrrDDDaaaaa
Amendment to the amendment about the amendment to an amendment. Ordaaaaa, order....
Yes, I'd like to ORRRRRDAAAA a side of chips
Britain: "People's vote!" "No deal!" "My deal is the best and only deal!" "Cant we just staaayyy??" "*incomprehensible angry Scottish dialect*" " *ORDEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* THE HOUSE MUST CALM DOWN!" "eaaaaahhhhh"
Me, from the other side of the planet: *J O I N A S S P E C T A T O R*
The Scottish voice is being told to shut up and eat gravel, their anger is actually completely comprehendible.
@@fergusdenoon1255 No one is saying it's not. Half the world understands how the English are when it comes to giving non-English peeps a voice. Indy Ref 2019? Let Scotland apply to reaffirm that they live in Europe
spoopytime i am right there with some popcorns. This is better than Netflix.
Eeaahhhheeeaaahhheeeaahhh
The fantasy behind all the parliament comedy is that they try to vote for a deal?? a deal!! the EU says that any deal is plausible after exiting the EU.. so you eider left without a deal or you implement the backstop you pay the 39 billions ect ect and then... when the EU have the money you preside apply the deal, if.... the EU have not problems with.
I totally understand the UK is really humiliating but if is not backstop in place then there is no deal..
this haven’t gotten trough in parliament jet..
_Option one the backstop ergo not crush out and a sort of long staying before new deal is reached.
The EU guarantee the 39 billions and the UK not to crush out.
_Option two not backstop, you don’t pay a penny, the EU get the UK in international court CIADI, you crush out. And you'll negotiate a deal as 3 country
There is not much debate around is really simple any outcome is shit for the UK any... and no one won to have the responsibility to implemented.
well done! CLEAAAAAR THE LOBBY! bedtime now for you guys.
DIVISION!
Ordaaaaaa.Orda.
@J and M
Ok, that's actually a pretty good point. I tend to stand with Bercow, but I will concede you that.
@J and M A referendum based on a bus with a lie on it, pfft
@J and M Isn't the amendment calling to honor the referendum's result quite useless? All of what's going on now seems to be about HOW to honor the result. How would that amendment be a solution?
What a mess. I'm not even from the UK. It was funny at first but now it's more painful then ever to follow.
Then why are they laughing so in parliament. What a bunch of self centered morons.
Its the best comedy show this year everone outside of uk is laughing their asses off me included
Wonderful how a bunch of selfish upper crust MPs due for peerage trumpeting their elitist views fail to see beyond their office door.
@@RyderMCG Do you think it's funny that EU immigrants are being abused and attacked? I've been physically attacked, and I only got off without injury because one of the good Brits saved my arse.
@@starlinguk Well, that's not a laughing matter.
I would like to leave the EU, democracy is dead if it doesn't happen, that doesn't make me a bad Brit, What it does mean is my government has sh!t on me from a great height
Your channel is super impressive my friend. I like the graphics and how simply you explain everything.
Favorite phrase from Mr Speaker.
ORDAAAAAA Ordaa
Second favorite phrase
DIVISSIOOONN Clear the lobby.
'UNLOCK' is probably my first, 'ORDAAH' second, third 'DIVISION'.
What about the right honourable gentleman must be heard.
@@Andygb78 ...and he *will* be heard."
phaub Indeed he will.
You're doing phenomenal work making these videos. Now, get some rest!
Oi! Some sleep is due, the Parliament will continue to be indecisive, the government will continue to disappoint, whatever will happen will happen...
Get some sleep
Brendan Purvis governments all over the world are failing and getting more aggressive, this is scary and bad.
You know it's gonna be good when the title is 'what the hell did MPs vote for?'
Did they vote against the empty box?
I subbed to you for these live updates. I live in America but this whole brexit situation has been the worlds most interesting dumpster fire. Loving it.
You live in America and THIS is the most interesting dumpster fire? I live in Asia, and am watching both sides of the Atlantic with great interest and entertainment.
@Lokii 223 well Congress isn't supposed to be able to do what they want, but they dont actually care. They walk all over the constitution daily.
@Lokii 223 Honestly I'm talking about every leftist politician in america who shits all over the first and second amendment, and uses the constitution as toilet paper.
Absolutely love the channel, amazing how you turn this out so fast. Also think it will make a fascinating record of what Brexit looked like on the ground, it’s a real service you’re providing, keep it up!
Also 9:10 the folder should say Beckett! Confusing...
Thanks for keeping us up to date about Brexit
This is where I get my Brexit news in a simple and clear fashion. Good job guys.
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Isn't it agonising to watch UK democracy turning redundant over the time ?
democracy is overrated anyway.
no, it's been dying for years, for instance with Thatcher making the prime minister a president instead of first amongst equals ('prime') in the Cabinet (the day to day boss government - the rest of the government are just in charge of doing what they're told), now the tide's receded, but it had no pants on for half a century
@@josephinewinter Will Brits ever understand why other nations have constitutions?
What do you mean redundant. Who else would dictate laws and policy? Also the uk has a constitution?
@@chairmanmeow2588 seems like you are not in tune with us here
As a mainland European the brexit is my favorite soap opera :)
mine is not,its possible the future for every citizen of Europe is at stake here...
It will be really funny when the newer members of the EU deal with the shock of their citizens returning after being expelled from the UK. Poland, Hungary, Romania you can start crying now
@@ppsarrakis I know, I'm just poking fun at how much of a joke the brexit process has been so far. I truly do hope it ends with a good deal or even better, no brexit at all. We need to work to together, not split apart. Let's reform the EU into something eurosceptics can also agree upon, not tear the entire structure down. You are still welcome Britain!
@@willnicholson18 Continental/Mainland Europe is the continuous continent of Europe, excluding its surrounding islands. 6,500-6,100 BC Britain broke free of mainland Europe.
@@rolloo which is either the EU or associated countries- so saying Britain leaves Europe- especially in the case of No Deal- isnt so wrong. "No we arent leaving the only legally binding form of supra-national organisation on the continent, we are geographically still there, arent we?" well, the UK is politically abandoning the subcontinent since the EU was speaking with one voice. The regulations, the freedoms, the preferential trade agreements- when will the usual idiots notice those will fall away? Who will they blame then?
You need some sleep, man. You misspelled the word government.
No offence but so did u!
LIERS!
@@drunktroll4042 ORRRRddddDdDdDddRrrRrRRR in the comments
@@139Gaming
Sorry sir
@@drunktroll4042 I propose an amendment to your motion!
Ooooooorrrrddddddddahhh!
The disclaimer is great, and that it's necessary says a lot about Brexit.. xD
Theresa Finally realised that "They hates the deal, all of them hates it!"
Deliberate Gollum Reference??
@@thomasjones6216 yes. See the Andy Serkis video from a few months back
That is not it. May is stubborn but not stupid.
She needs to placate a base that believes that the UK is in a position to impose terms on the EU. She also knows full well that this is impossible. Her deal is terrible if you believe that the UK could easily get much more concessions from the EU. So this is how many Brits wish to view matters: a bad deal as a result of May's piss-poor negotiation skills.
From a European perspective, the UK can either accept this deal or leave with no-deal and live to regret the consequences, regardless of which Englander negotiated the deal. From that perspective, May is right: it is either this deal, no-deal Brexit, indefinite delay, or revocation of article 50. Inasmuch as she is determined to deliver Brexit as part of her premiership and she wishes to avoid no-deal exit, she has to insist on _this_ deal.
@@thomasjones6216 yes
I've been watching your vids for a few weeks now and just wanted to say thanks for the breakdown. There's a ton of info that would go over my head due to the lack of insight into the processes, but your work is making that much easier to understand. Keep up the good work!
We should all tackle life with as much gusto as the speaker shouts DIVISION
I will try this at work! 😀
Blue socks or red socks? DIVISION! Clear the lobby!
Thank you for your commitment to explaining Brexit. I am sure you know that keeping information fresh and relevant is very important for the viewers. And I know you are working really hard this days to do so. For that take my money in patreon as a way to support what you are doing now
I need a 10-hour Video of the speaker calling for ORRRDDDAAAAAA.
😂😂
Ohhhh him screaming order over a lofi track
There should be enough footage from this week alone to compile your demanded video!
Appreciate the hard work on getting this put out! Thanks guys!
"DIVISION!!! Clear the lobby!"
Brexit is quickly becoming my favorite sport.
You’re such a grafter dude, you deserve so many more subs ! Keep up the good work buddy !👍🏼💪🏼
If their pay check was held until they find a solution, I bet they would find an issue to Brexit within a few hours🤣
Touché
There's an idea... SIEZE all assets untill they "consolidate their feces". Have a proper "shut in" with bar snacks to sustain them.
Wonder how comfy those benches are to sleep on.
Politicians are all lazy bastards, the lot of them.
I certainly hope your “Speaker” video explains wtf “DIVISION!!!!! Clear the lobby” means. That was intense.
Basically it's when a voice vote is insufficient to determine the outcome of the vote, so they split up to actually cast their vote.
division clear the lobby means that from yelling alone there is no clear side that has it so a formal vote needs to be held, they need to clear the room to have the vote.
Also you walk out and you walk in on 2 different side for yes and no
It's an antiquated system. Every time the vote is close, all MPs have to leave the room and go through separate doors depending on whether they vote yes or no. Then, the number of people in both lobbies is counted and the result presented to the house. Of course, electronic voting would bring this 20 minute procedure down to 2 minutes. It would be the reasonable thing to do. But "reason" isn't something that comes to mind when thinking about British parliamentary democracy.
@@Zimionz But all the shouting is a funny tradition, more entertaining than most other parliaments, you gotta give that to the Brits :D
I've been refreshing for this
You should probably go out for a walk.
mate, you have a great channel. Thanks for making this channel. Made the whole brexit process easier to understand .
Not gonna lie, the first time I heard him shout "DIVISION!" I thought he was ordering them to do arithmetic lmao
in a way he is
MP's may be stupid but they aren't little kids. When the speaker wants them to do arithmetic he says "Long division".
Same both age
Better hope for no MULTIPLY!
But INTEGRATE would be nice...
As a german I don't have any idea about what's going on but it does look kinda fun. All that shouting and the guy with the growly voice - it's all very engaging!
:)
I'm looking forward to season 4 of Brexit. It's my favourite reality show!
ye the unfortunate thing is this is actually reallity
They are thinking about extending it.
No reality at all. If anything, MPs will be voting to line their own pockets. That's what really interests them.
Thanks for leaving in the stutter during the opening, as a stutterer I appreciate that even if it was a once off.
Great content as always.
The Speaker needs to have a t-shirt with his face on it, under it it'll say "ORDAHHHHH!" in all caps.
Thank you, dear TLDR News team for all these beautiful and so informative videos that you create, as well as for all your effort, so that I am able to stay informed for the recent Brexit developments. It’s been a time since I really wanted to write and send to you a personal thank you. Thank you very much. I like your videos very much and a video of yours in the evening after work is sufficient for me to stay up to date. I like also very much that you strive to stay neutral and to give all points of view in a specific issue, as well as your design and easy to grasp animations. Thank you.
Why didn't Parliament hold indicative votes immediately after the referendum? For that matter, it would have made a lot of sense to hold indicative votes before Brexit so it would be more clear what people were voting for. And how in the world is Theresa May still PM?
Regular MPs have limited power to propose legislation. Most of the power is vested in the PM and cabinet, and to address your points:
1) They assumed they would win the referendum
2) Having lost the referendum, they did not wish to seem weak by asking what anyone else wanted again
3) All politicians likely want Theresa May to take the blame for Brexit, so it would be great if she could hang on a few more weeks, ideally making a few more aloof speeches
Joe Fox, I’m admittedly coming at this from an outside perspective as an American living in the UK, so thank you for your response. I understand that all from a technical and political standpoint, but the complete lack of strategic policy-driven planning for something this important just blows my mind. And why does May hold on to PM anyway? The writing is on the wall that she is the scapegoat for everyone. If she cares about her reputation, she could call Conservative MP’s bluff by threatening to resign if her deal fails.
@@joezim4254 she's stubborn, she has already lost face so there is nowhere to go but up (or maybe sideways)
I called it!
This channel is doing an AWESOME job of educating this non-brit on brexit! I continue to amazed at how the channel is able to keep up with such a dynamic subject. This may be redefining the 24 hour news channels... I can keep current AND pick what I want to watch. Thank you!
Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems to me that the EU holds all (or at least most) of the cards here. All this talk about getting longer extensions and getting a better deal from the house seem to ignore the fact that the EU has already said this is the best deal the UK is going to get, and they seem to be against a delay that stretches into the EU election. So, the house is in charge now, but how has that really made things better? Don’t they have the same constraints (from the EU) the PM has?
Nah that's pretty much right.
Brexit will be rough on Britain, and the EU doesn't really have reason to bend over backwards.
So leave will be annoyed and remain will be pissed because neither of them get all of what they want.
Remain obviously doesn't want to go at all.
Leave wants more British control over Britain's trade and such but if they have any kind of deal they're still ceding some, even a lot of control when losing all say in the matter.
Really wonderful work, it's quite an achievement to be informative and impartial. Peace out👍.
Imagine students of future reading this in their history/political science classes...
student, we know go to the second most political unstable period in britisch history, right after the Henry the VIII breaking dispute with the pope? :p
romanvampire lol. You don’t know much about British history if that’s what you believe.
@@tonycarpaccio9550 i was joking ;-) , but of you limit to solely self inflicted hardships, i don't see so many others i must say
Always looking forward to these videos!! Thankyou for your effort
Thanks for making these. You put the wrong graphic at 9:07
Saw this last night and was expecting an imminent video release from yourself! Certainly wasn't disappointed.
I call this a non violent ethical and economical conflict this will determine the future of the world in the next 15 years every government is watching and waiting to see the results so they know how to move forward with their international strategies
With the way things are going it may end up happening when I'm a pensioner
If you consider risking food/medicine shortages nonviolent, sure!
@@LostieTrekieTechie that's been proven false.
>food shortages
We’re surrounded by fish mate
You have to be happy Article 13 won't be applicable. It won't be right?
Crumbles, your video turnaround times are terrific!
5:16 Speaker just dozed off on the keyboarddddddddddddddd
😂😂😂😂
I'm an Australian, but could see what I felt was an historic moment on the horizon, so I watched live the entirity of Theresa May's statement, the debate on the three ammendments, and the voting (Despite this all beginning at around 4 or 5 AM my time). I commend TLDR News on their dedication to get this video out in the wee small hours. Well done! If I might point out a small error in the slides, the slide showing the results of the Beckett amendment (Amendment F) is labled "Letwin". This can be forgiven due to the late hour and the speed in which this video was put out. Its a brilliant summarisation of the days events... Again... Well Done!!
TDLR: *Finishes video*
*BBC NEWS UPDATE IN THE BACKGROUND*
TDLR: FUUUUUUUUUUCK
Thank you for your well explained videos
We had 30 years to decide on on whether to leave or stay in the EU. Not have a leg or 2 still in indefinitely.
Thankyou for putting all the expiry and time to make this. Very helpful
You know the video makers must be tired when half of the comments are telling them to get some sleep.
thank you so much for making this I fully understand everything now and I patiently wait for your videos
Heads up, there's a significant audio editing error at time 12s. The audio repeats when you're saying "and the script was written."
I blame brexit being too exhausting for these people
That's called sleep deprivation
@@tesstoby exactly
@@genericpotato7118 this guy will die before brexit if continue in this way
Ever been sleep deprived. Not a editing error, but stumbling vocal chords
Someone tried to explain what all this meant when it happened, I didn't have a clue what they were talking about, now I understand, so thank you for your hard work. Without this channel I wouldn't know what the hell was going on.
"DIVISION! CLEAR THE LOBBY!"😂
Being a 15 year old I am terrified of what the outcome will be of all of this mess
I'm fed up of Labour tabling amendments just because they know as the official opposition it will be given preference, and then withdrawing those amendments without a vote. They have done this several times and it denies the opportunity to backbenchers who may have really good amendments that don't get chosen because Labour took their slot.
Dude. Even with the assets already drawn, you write multiple scripts, record them, cut the audio, then edit it all together with visuals all in time to keep up with very fast changing events. You're a legend man.
You should have a small Montage of John Bercow saying ORDDDDEERR at the end of each video. And when this brexit thing has finished send him a little gift basket for all the video content he has generated.
As an outsider it seems like May's plan has always been to put a deal on the table that was so disastrous and intolerable to the British people that she could drag things out until they were worn down enough to accept another referendum, so she could get her way and stay in the EU.
How fortunate we are to have such a gifted, noble and forceful speaker in Mr.Bercow.He demonstrates the spirit of true democracy in our disorded Parliament.
Thank you for the clear explanation of the process.
What is "DIVISIIIIION clear the lobby?" What is "The noes have it... UNLOCK"?
When there's a vote the MPs leave and walk back in, using one door for aye and the other door for no. So they divide. T make sure only MPs vote they clear the entrance area before voting starts. Then the doors are locked to stop late voters and unlocked after counting.
Don is right ! I'd add that the "DIVISION" part is the announcement that this process is going to take place. Notice that just before, the speaker asks the MPs to say yes or no. If there is a clear majority at that point then there is no point in doing the long formal vote and the amendment passes or not just like that.
Here's as full a description as I can provide.
"Division!" = "I can't tell by the voices, so we're going to count votes!"
We do 'divisions' in the US as well, at pretty much every level of government. Some boards/councils/etc. have members raise their hands to show Yes or No, or do roll call with each member stating their vote when called (the US Senate does this) or install electronic systems for members to push a button and have the vote recorded (a lot of state legislatures run this way).
"Clear the Lobby!" = "Get our vote counting system ready!"
"[Lock the doors!]" (We never get to see this one, so I'm guessing at the exact words.) = "Time is up for everyone to show up to vote. Lock the doors and start counting!"
The House of Commons has a...gleefully antiquated way of counting votes, in my opinion, but it works. There's a Yes lobby and a No lobby, both accessible from the main House Chamber. Each member enters the lobby of the vote they wish to make, then two members assigned to count votes stand at the exit to each lobby. Those vote counters literally count heads of each member exiting the lobby. Then, after the votes are counted, the four vote counters (two counting Yes, two counting No) get together, record the numbers, and do that cute little bow-step-bow thing right before one reads the vote totals to the house and the Speaker. Then the Speaker re-announces the numbers.
"Unlock!" = "We've counted all the votes, so let members in and out of the chamber again!"
"Okaaay, we're gonna need a vote on this. Nobody leaves! /// Right, we're done, unlock the door."
As an American ...this was an excellent explanation of where things stand now. I will continue to watch for more videos ... as the process moves forward.
I'm beginning to only watch to hear "Ooorder, orderrr!" Is that so wrong?! 😃
Yes. It is really not that funny or interesting.
Also, you're killing it with these videos. Truly top notch content at breakneck speed.
Mp's voted to take back control... Just like Brexiteers. oh i do love british irony 😂
As an American who has become quite interested in Brexit and the UK govt the last few months your videos are very informative and easy to follow for a newbie.
Speaker: "Should we get fish and chips tonight?"
Older son: "nah"
daughter: "yeah
Younger son: "yes"
Mother: "no"
Speaker: "DIVISION!!!!"
CLEAR THE KITCHEN !!!
Your channel is the best!!
Animation at 9:10 shows Letwin amendment instead of Beckett! Get some sleep guys!
Awesome video structure!!!
Loved the Intro
Usually this type of effort spend on animation is used for ever-green content but you're going out of your way to use it for content that may be irrelevant a few hours after rendering. I mean, that's insanely industrious and deserves respect. But I can't help but feel you're wasting your talents while you could be creating content that would build far more traction over time.
Well done! You got on trending!
I really cannot see the point of indicative votes.
1. Barnier, Tusk et. al have said that the Withdrawal Treaty is the only deal on offer and is not negotiable. It is either accepted by the UK parliament in it's entirety or else the UK leaves with no deal. This rules out Norway-like deal, Canada+, Canada++, Canada/Norway super duplex retroflex or any other weird combination. It also rules out remaining in the CU and SM.
2. MPs might indicate that they support revoking A50. HMG will not do this as it would be tantamount to the Conservative Party writing a suicide note. While this might be popular with the people at large, I think I can confidently guess that it is not popular the membership of the Conservative Party at large or Conservative MPS in particular.
3. A second referendum. HMG will not do this and support in the House is, at best, lukewarm. Referendums are rather unpredictable. 2016 being a case in point.
4. No deal. Whilst gaining increasing support among the people of the UK (according to opinion polls), MPs are increasingly at odds with their constituents and so this will no show great support in the House.
5. Long extension. I might ask what for? If I don't, the EU certainly will.
This would involve the UK taking part in EU elections. The EU is already facing a rise in the EUrosceptic presence in the EU Parliament, they will not wish to see members of UKIP and Nigel Farage's Brexit Party adding to this.
6. Call a general election. HMG will not do this, T May already tried this once and see point 2 above.
MPs can indicate all they want, but the EU are firm that it is Theresa Merkel's Withdrawal Treaty or no deal. HMG is firmly against revoking A50, a second referendum or an early GE.
Indicative votes is, to my mind merely politicking with no other objective than to further the personal careers of the likes of Letwin, Cooper, Benn, Watson et. al.
It sets a precedent that will degrade Parliament in the long term and demonstrates the complete disdain that MPs have for the mere people of the UK.
You make some excellent points however, aren't deals such as CU, canada/Norway+ etc only ruled out due to the demands put in place by HMG e.g no free movement etc. If such restrictions were lifted such option would probably become available. Tbh I think it is somewhat arrogant on HMGs part to put such restrictions in place because "people voted to end freedom of movement"etc even though the ballot paper only specified remain or leave. There were a great many options open to the prime minister regarding brexit initially. However she seemingly shot herself in the foot by placing these demands, which would seem to have caused the issues surrounding her current deal.
The proposal that failed on 9:10 isn’t Letwin. It’s Beckett’s amendment. Or am I missing something?
After the Beckett amendment vote the graphic shows the Letwin amendment with an X through it. Should it be the Beckett amendment with the X?
I'm probably wrong, but the Letwin amendments has an x because the amendments didn't pass all together. So, they made another vote on the only one that was accepted.
I was confused by it too.
Yes, it should be the Beckett amendment with the X, there were a few other small errors in the video as well, it probably is a reflection of the short timescale that the videos are being turned around in.
Love the vids my dude!
5:15 IS THAT ENGLISH????
"... by inviting the shadow secretarysdfjisjdfijiojdf to move amendment D which standsisjdfiojdsfdjsiogfd leader of the opposition"
yeah that was really something. I'm still trying to figure it out
Bercow moonlights as an auctioneer it seems
aha! :)
No, we just love the way the Speaker goes "ORDA! Ordaaaaaa."
Why did the speaker insult an MP last night and then acted like a schoolyard bully when confronted about it?
Bercow has always been a pleb and a bully. That he shows sense with regards to Brexit doesn't negate his obvious negative history and other unsavory qualities. It doesn't help that Americans and others with no knowledge of the UK and it's government latch onto him just because he likes to shout things, either.
He is and will always be, an utter sod.
@@melchristensen8282 To be fair, it looks like you gotta be an asshole to get this lot to stop screaming at each other for five minutes.
I imagine a room full of cats would be easier.
5:17 and 6:48 and 8:21 BERCOWWWWWWWWW
Thank you TLDR for the most in depth experience I've had yet with UK parliament
Please make a video explaining what the "DIVISION, CLEAR THE LOBBIES" is all about and what happens afterward.
When the house votes on a motion it starts off with a voice-vote. If there isn't a clear majority for one side or the other the speaker yells "division", announcing that the vote is divided and it cannot be determined who has more votes. "Clear the lobbies" refers to the division lobbies, one for "yes", one for "no", where the MP's gather when they vote. Anyone who isn't an MP cannot vote, and thus must leave the lobbies. The MP's have 8 minutes to get to their respective lobby before they are locked out of the vote.
The members then walk back into the chamber while tellers mark their names off a list. The results are announced, and the speaker shouts "UNLOCK" to indicate that the voting process is over and the lobbies can be unlocked again.
I'm not sure how I found your videos and channel. Perhaps TH-cam's algorithm, based on my watch history, feels that 'chaotic political environment' is right for me. lol However, as an American, I just wanted to say these are great videos and I am pleased to be able to watch them. I feel more informed than ever about Brexit thanks to your well-explained videos. I think understanding the world is so valuable and I worry for everyone over there with all the uncertainty and turmoil going on. Thanks for this series and thoughtful insight.
Damn, if these videos got any more current, you'd be stood in front of me right now!
These high quality, real-time, well balanced, highly informative videos are going to prove a fascinating historical record in years to come. *Here's what people thought was going on at every important interval, as it happened*. The source can't be coloured by retrospect because it's an account of where things stood in the moment. There will be people in the future who binge watch these in order and remember with god-knows what emotion what it was like as it happened, great work!
It’s like a monty python clip
in your work. Keep it up
Why did 2 people suddenly change their minds? That's so weird.
Either they lined up with their party whips or against them
Or they simply just accidentally walked to the wrong lobby. That's how it would go for me 😂
Actually, it’s just that a few people left the premises between the two votes. There are fewer votes on both sides.
@@MarcusCactus
329 vs 327 aye's and 307 vs 309 no's, no one left.
Archangel17 Oops! My mistake.
By far my favourite episode 🤩
They should get all fired. This is a joke of a government.
And those who are talking up second referendum should be tried for treason.
@@coolxjl and all those saying this is treason should be made to look up the law on treason.
@@iapetusmccool
There are plenty of lawyers for that :D I'll say, though, those who are advocating second referendum are colluding with EU for the deteriment of UK.
That "why is the house of commons so unruly" video will definitely be helpful and informative.
DIVISIOOOOOOON!