If you are concerned about money, get the Stingray and then buy the Z06 grill, front splitter, and side rockers. It gives you that badass look for about $1000.
I did exactly that plus Procharger , LT4 fuel system , methanol injection, and headers. So basically when everybody says “oh look a stingray “. I can put a “ I just pumped the neighbors cat look on their face when i gap the crap out on them.
It depends on what you want to do with the car, and your resources. I track mine often, so went for a Z06 with Z07 package. Won LS Fest in it last week. If I could only afford a Vette for daily driving, it would be a Stingray. You can drive one for a very reasonable price, and maintain it reasonably as well. Luckily, they built one for each of us.
My first Vette is the 2017 Z06 with Z07 package. I went for the top right out of the box, and I have no regrets. The only thing I would say with respect to taking a Grand Sport or base Stingray, and then modifying it to make huge power, is.....say goodbye to your warranty. The whole advantage of buying a new car with all the power you need is the 5 year 100,000 mile warranty that comes along with it. I don't like surprises............especially ones I have to pay for......
Large Modifications defiantly come after the warranty is over. did they change the warranty for 2017. The 2016 only came with 5 year 60K. You defiantly have a great car the only thing I would change on the Z07 package are the tires. Cup 2's shouldn't come on those cars.
The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act covers this issue. Modifying your car does not void the manufactures warranty. This is a myth. Dealers say modifications void the warranty because the dealership eats the cost of repairs. The dealer has to show positive proof and without doubt or question that a particular modification caused the malfunction of the warrantied part. If you come across a dealership who says your mod voided out your manufactures warranty, you need to show them, The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. They know of this Act, but do not have to inform you of it.
I've owned a 2016 C7 stingray and now own a 2018 Grandsport, it's definitely a nicer car than a C7 stingray, it's more balanced , the GS has the wider body and tires and better suspension to handle the power better.. from a dig it just hooks so much better..
Corvette Stingray 2LT with Z51 package and MRC is the bomb mac-diggity. Dual mode exhaust sings. In my opinion as good as most any other Corvette out there performance wise, GS or Stingray. Differences seem mostly cosmetic - GS has external lower rear vent - Stingray has lower rear vent under the car. Identical horsepower and torque numbers. GS has stage 2 aero, 2 extra brake pistons and slightly wider wheels. GS does look more aggressive but real world performance is identical. The big jump is from 460 horse power to 650 for Z06 and even higher for ZR1. In the end I think what matters is are you happy with your choice? I think just owning a Corvette is a blast. Besides you can always change the car over time to suit your needs.
Bought a stingray to build it up and track it myself. After i’m done I will be buying a 2019 Zr1 as a little reward and treat lol I am fortunate to own super cars but it just is not the same experience as building a sports car into a beast BY YOURSELF. Nothing like it. C7 is the perfect car for that. I used to drive a continental GT as my daily but ever since i got the stingray, that’s been my #1 choice for DD.
Hello there. I just ran across your videos and I am sold on the Grand Sport C7 now. I've owned 8 different Corvettes and I'm currently driving a convertible Mercedes but now realize that I miss my Vettes. Not so much for what others think, but because it really is my car of choice and i miss the positive feeling of the low, hard ride. Anyway, i like the way that you present your videos and will subscribe. Keep presenting OUR cars in a positive light and may God bless your Family as well as your Corvette Family!!
I'd need to drive both to see daily capability/comfort/practicality. The Grand Sport is gorgeous, it genuinely stirs something inside your soul and that's what I want, I just hope the cheaper Z51 is not way too comfortable in comparison. I would get the Zo6 if it didn't have those overheating issues. Probably the mid-engined Zo6 will be the car to get.
There is a way around the overheating issues see my video overheating fix plus this only happen if you are on the track and its a hot day and you are putting down allot laps. Normal driving and even out getting on it with some friends has never been an issue for me.
We talked about this yesterday somewhat. I'm glad you made a video on the subject. I'm going GS all the way ! Stingray is still a pretty nice package as well but I need that aggressive body of the Z06. Great video Chuck!
Great video and you make some good points. I would suggest that a person buy what they can comfortably afford to get into a vette. Regardless if it's the base model, Z51, GS, or Z06, just owning a vette, is a great experience.
counterinsurgency SME totally agree and that's why I made that very same comment in the video. People should always do what they can afford. Thanks for watching.
Long story hopefully short. I intend to put 20-40k miles on a Corvette over a 2 year period. Tire question: I don't want to get caught in the rain with Cup Tires which is stock on the Grand Sport and Z06, being that I want to put miles on it...stick with a regular Stingray? Tire wise the maximum life on tires is 15k. What would you suggest regarding tires and model?
The cup 2 tires only come with the Z07 package not al GS and Z06 have them most are super sports which do just fine in rain. The super sports will give you 25-30k miles if you have the camber and toe put to nearly zero.
For that you can get a C7 Z06 with the 3LZ package along with the Z07 package. Get the carbon Fiber interior pieces as well ad the carbon fiber Top and hood stinger. Thats probably going to MSRP at 108K but they will take 100K for it. Good luck on your new Corvette.
sir I really appreciate this video. I retired from the Navy and my gift to myself will be a corvette! currently own a 2011 2SS Camaro. I will keep it when I get the corvette but this video helped me basically decide to go with the GS 2LT! thank you and I followed you on instagram as well.
First of all Thank You for your service to this amazing country and welcome to the community Eric very honored to have you. I would say the GS 2LT is is a very good choice. GM made over 13,400 of them last year out of the gates because the demand is very high for them. It is a gorgeous sports car for sure. Let me know when you get it so you can send me a pic to show everyone on the channel. 👍👍
Way to go Shipmate, retired in 2004 and bought a 2006 GTO, Sept 2006. Didn't think about a Vette until this year. Bought a 77 C3 last month, now I'm thinking C7.
For past 4 months got smart on the market - test drove about 12 local cars... had a great GS w 20k miles on it picked out at Stingray Chevy... interior noise - not from exhaust or engine but from road rumble/tires was on the high side for me. Took my wife for a test drive and she declared it: this will give us a headache on a 1hr+ drive... so much for the GS! I know its a sportscar for petes sake and the noise comes with the territory.... - Just wanted to share with others who like me LOVED the GS and may be interior noise-sensitive... I ended up with a 2019 3LT with 10k miles the npp exhaust and the Z51 chrome wheels - saved $10k and don't have a headache and enjoy driving 3 hrs to see my sister... I'll always miss that 2019 GS - the last of the best IMHO - but I'll do much better for my use on the stingray... if anyone wants my transparent top in trade for their CF just let me know!
Not a convertible lol. I would say GS because it's the perfect middle of the road car. The handling of a Z06 yet the silky LT1. Plus you could easily add power to get where your comfortable and have the suspension to handle it. Plus the looks are amazing. Either way it's a win.
I am not a convertible guy myself but really enjoy the GS looks but I am a little bias because it looks like a Z06 😂. I agree either way its a corvette and a win.
My 1st vette was a 2011 GS, the GS is a great value, it is for the most part a Z06 with a base motor, I think the C7 GS also has standard Mag ride suspension, the Carbon 65 is a beautiful package and as always keep the good work up see you next video.
I drove the 2011 C6 GS a lot more more then I do my 2016 C7 Z06, both cars are very strong performers but the C7 is so much improved and the HP in the C7 Z06 is far above any car I have built or bought in my life, I will send you a photo of my old C6 in a few days, As always A like and be safe,, !!
Morning, with the 2018 GS you can get the ZO7 brakes with the ZO7 pkg now...also the dash over thee instrument cluster down to the grab handle comes in the color of the interior in a 2LT pkg, just like the 3LTpkg. Keep up the good work on your blogs...
Demmolitionman So you can get the carbon ceramics brakes and rotors without having to get the cup2 tires? I knew you can option for the Z07 Brakes without the package but I was thinking you still got stuck with those racing slicks. That is huge if you get the Z07 brake system and keep the pilot super Sport S 4 tires. It's much cheaper to do the after market Arrow kits yourself. Very good comment thanks for sharing.
good advice...i am planning to custom one myself soon...red and red both inside and out...i am glad that we will get 20 inches wheel for 2018 model anyway...i need base stingray with 2lt package and auto transmission...and i will modify the car once i get it...at least kn cold air intake and front bumper wrap to protect the car...and of course aftermarket rear wing...going to be awesome
Unless regular tracking would settle for a Stingray. If I bought new would option for museum delivery. If I did get a Grand Sport would find one with out painted hash marks. Just my preferences.
My first vette was an '80 had a lot fun in it, sold it got a '72, posted it on line to show it to peeps and got and offer 2 years later for 5,000 more than I paid, sold it. Should have kept it. Wife wanted a convertible bought an '87 absolutely the worst (mechanically speaking car ever!) sold it. Kids came along needed a 4 seater convert , bought a '06 Mustang GT, added every bolt on available black on black an posted it to show it and someone swooped in with an offer I couldn't refuse. Sold it. Bought a used '02 convert vette, drove it a couple years and missed the 4 seater (kids) sold it found another '06 exactly the same as the other one and drove it, but didn't want to go through all the "power" upgrades. Sold it, bought a '08 GT500. Wow what car! It's been a few years, wife can't drive it ,it's just too much for her to handle at (modified bolt ons tune etc.) over 550 at wheels. Recent vacation took us through Bowling Green and stopped at the corvette museum and sure enough the wife wants that new vette! Found a '14 with less that 20 k miles and it looks like I'll be parking my FORD next to her CHEVY which makes sense since one of us is a CUBS fan and the other is a SOX fan LoL!
Definitely, there are several guys in the community that are from now in the Dallas, Frisco, Garland, North Richland Hills, Hurst, Plano area so will be a good time.
Love the cars but I just wonder why I dont see people my age of the 20's driving them. I chose a Z51 Package L3. It fit my budget and still gave me the performance I desire. After I pay her off, I may still get a Z06 of 2017 or 2018. However thats up for debate because Im still very happy with the Z51 Package. As you said, the C7 has that aggressive look. Its like comparing tron of the old days and then the newer one. C6 and before is my Fathers and Grandfathers gen. C7 is mine.
Corvettes 918 In all honesty, Im still in shock how C7 is ending so quickly. The last is the Carbon 65, the 2018 Model and then C8 takes over. It is in my hopes that they change the Corvette so much on the C8 that the C7 maintains desirability/style, just like the C3. Im sticking with the C7. That body style rules.
I like the look of the GS a bit more but I got a Stingray with a 2LT manual and Mag ride and am glad I did. The GS wheels are cracking and bending much more easily than the Stingray and mine will never see the track so no need for bigger wheels and brakes. Stingray for me.
Hello corvette 918, from what I saw online from the bash and what was being discussed as far what was new for the 2018 GS model, they nothing about pilot cup 2 tires when ordering the Brembo brakes. Not saying that getting the brakes without the ZO7 pkg that those tires wouldnt not be included. But I don"t remmember on any of the videos them saying that.
Welcome to to the Corvettes918 community. There are several Tulsa car guys in the community and we are going to be doing a cruise in a few weeks. I mention it in this weeks Vlog, if you have a sports cars come join us. Again, welcome.
The correct answer is either get the stingray (based on the price what you’re getting its worth although it looks nothing like or performs like the z06) GS for the money better off paying for z06
Grand Sport all the way. I have 2019 white with black wheels, heritage, 2TL with ground effects package. Would not even consider a stingray. They are nice but not a Grand Sport
Think the GS is the sweet spot in the vette lineup. Get a bit of the performance goodies that stingray doesn't have but it won't break the bank. The zo6 is awesome but do you really need 650hp?
By the looks it seems everyone prefers the grand sport over the base stingray, I do too I’ve seen both at the dealership I saw and got in a zo6 grand sport package with the carbon fiber I just might be the youngest c7 corvette owner with a manual transmission
Just got a 2016 Stingray Z51. Love it so far! Couple questions, does track mode have the best/fastest throttle response vs all other modes including sport? Second, does it "hurt" the car if you just drive in track mode all the time? I usually drive in sport a lot but kinda love the track feel and throttle response better. Just didn't know if it's bad for the car to just keep in track mode 100% of the time.
Good afternoon Sir, I have a question....I live in a complex that has too many speed bumps....Is this a big problem when owning a Corvette or any sports car for that matter? Respectfully...
Speet bumps are never good for cars that sit this low. Even on stock bolts I think you may have an issue with hitting the nose depending on the type of bumps you have.
In your intro you remarked that for the person who doesn't want a ZO6's massive amounts of power a Grand Sport or Stingray maybe your best options. The Grand Sport has similar body styling to a ZO6 and with some modifications can perform like a ZO6 (slightly less money?). A Stingray is about 100 hp less then a Grand Sport but has enough "go" to satisfy most drivers and its body style is intentionally similar to a classic Stingray. If my garage was big enough I'd get a Stingray.
All true points but to get a 650HP and 650Tq stock with a 5 year 60K mike warranty is pretty impressive. You procharge a Stingray or GS, along with a tune and maybe cam or heads. The first time you that car doing some laps if something goes wrong and the car is sidelined because now the people who did the mods are saying you did something to it on the track that Z06 for the money will seam like a steel. Push that stock Z06 all you want and if you tear it up take it back to the dealer so GM will fix it on their dime. 😎. Great comment thanks for watching.
I went Stingray, partially because of money, and partly because I daily drive my corvette and the roads here in AZ are horrible and there are lots of speed bumps and steep driveways. Lowered suspension, aero and super low profile tires make for a lot of repair bills around here!!
What about the special packages like the Spice interior? More specifically can I get color matched Z06 spoiler as well as the aero package color matched in the grand sport.?
You can get the spice red in a GS now the spoilers only come in Carbon flash you would have to go after market on that. You can get the side vents to match the color of the car.
There is only going to be 650 Carbon 65's made in GS and Z06 trim 450 for the US market and 200 for GM's world market with probably the lion share going to Canada and Europe. They made about as many GS as they did Stingrays for 2017 so from a collectability standpoint one will not demand more for being made less like the later C6 2011+ where the GS was being made like 3 or 4 to 1 ratio over the regular vettes even these GS will demand more money but it could flip after 40 or 50 years where the regular vettes due to being less of them surpass the GS C6's. I was told by a few GM exects in marketing and sales that the new GS was brought out with the heavy road track/autocross oriented user in mind or the ones that want to compete in a lower class or HP group races. I'm talking about people that do it for a living at it, where they have almost everything the Z06 has minus the S/C LT-4 engine. The GS shares more with the Z06 than the Z-51. So it comes down to what your use for the car is if you hit an autocross or track like 2-3 times a month then the GS is the way to go. But if you want a fun car and one that you don't see at every street corner then the Z06 fits the bill. Or if you just don't like or trust supercharged engines for what ever reason the GS is also the way to go. I was told a funny story that Road America had an open track day in early fall 2015 where a few GM test drivers was giving classes and rides around the track and they was besting Z06's driven by their owners with just run of the mill Z51 Vettes around the track by a full 2 to 3 seconds a lap! Just goes to show you that you can have all the HP in the world but if you don't have the skills the better driver will pass you in what should be the inferior car. It was these types of people the GS was made for.
great comment. It all comes down to the driver. 80% of Corvettes will never see a track but knowing you are driving something that can do those things is more than enough for most guys.
Hi Chuck! Enjoy your channel and enthusiasm. Admire your story of overcoming your loss. My question is: in your video, between the ceramic matrix gray of the carbon 65 edition and the arctic white, which did you like better? I haven't seen the carbon 65 in person yet. I'm thinking about ordering a grand sport with hyper green hash marks when the plant opens back up, but I can't decide on color. Narrowed it down to these two. Thanks in advance!
Im going next week to pick one of these up. One question is the ride height allot different in the grand sport vs stingray? Im scared i cant get the grand sport up my driveway
GREAT VIDEO Chuck, I have a 2ss/rs Camaro. I have customized it and I just love her to death but every since I joined your channel I have started craving Corvettes, the last two weeks I've been seeking I thought I found the nicest Stingray until I saw this video. I now know I can't purchase the stingray. I can't get the Z06 either bc of the sticker price but I can and I will look for the Grandsport. I want it as pretty as your Z06 that I feel in love with the moment I saw her:) This video allowed me to see just how much more AGGRESSIVE the Grandsport looks over the Stringray. Don't get me wrong the Stringray is nice but the Grandsport looks better and I can imitate your Z06 and be happy. LOL. Keep the video's coming I'm sure I speak for all the guys we really enjoy them as car enthusiasts. Thanks again.
I drive a C7 Z06 and just had to replace all 4 tires and ran me over $2.5K🤷🏽♂️ But i also got the oil changed for $50, so I guess it depends on what you’re having worked on lol
You can tell its lower if thats possible. It drives the same does feel a little better in corners and the view is a little different. I feel like I am sitting up a little higher but overall very happy with the change. Several guys in the vette club have it on their list of things to do at the next tech day.
Yes, just two videos back the one of me lowering it check it out. I am Vlogging while driving in the rain. 😂😂 Its not going to hurt the car and the tires do great.
Hey Chuck, nice work as always on your live stream. Question for you...would you consider not calling out each person as they join the stream? I find it somewhat distracting. I realize that you want to acknowledge folks as they join, so...what do you think?
ISUringman1974 I call out just a fraction of the people who watch live and comment. I spend more talking about the subject. Acknowledging people from time to time is a way of interacting with those who stop in live. That's just my way of saying thank you. Everyone has their own style in how they run their live streams and that's mine. Thanks for watching.
Hi Chuck, Man of Few Words here. Missed you live because Mother Nature gave Northern NJ a nice evening for a cruise night. I'm really starting to like the Carbon 65, but man, it's a $15k option which is a bit hard to swallow. Loved your dialogue and Stingray vs. GS is always a good subject. Looking forward to Saturday at 9:00AM. Until then, have a gifted week and Save the Wave. Peter P.S. I was at Kerbeck in Atlantic City yesterday and their "sources" tell them the new ZR1 will not be revealed until the Geneva Auto Show in 2018 and they have no idea when you'll be able to order one. I would be interested in what your sources might have to say about it. Maybe this subject would make for good content in an upcoming video of yours.
Cruising is more important than any live stream or video I will ever put out. Glad you guys has the opportunity to get and enjoy some great weather with a great car. If it does not come out this weekend which it looks like its not because there his no media hype or at Corvettes at Carlisle at the end of August then I would have no clue when it's coming out. I sure hope they don't wait until the North American Auto Show in January up in Detroit.
Thanks Chuck, It sure felt good to be back out at a Cruise Night. A lot of guys must have felt like me - stale and moldy. lol Of course a few spirited miles on Rt.80, the section that runs through Mexico of course, helped solve THAT problem. Over 250 cars turned out. As to the ZR1, I agree with you. I'll be at Carlisle August 24 - August 27. I've got you on speed email if there's anything news worthy. Stay tuned.
I bought a C7 Z51 3lt I couldn't see spending extra money on the grand sport they both have the same engine I'm from Michigan we have probably the worst roads in the country the grand sport shares the rim problem with the Z06 the Z51 doesn't have the rim problems I have a 8k supercharger on mine with the 7speed manual transmission it runs with the big boys
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If you are concerned about money, get the Stingray and then buy the Z06 grill, front splitter, and side rockers. It gives you that badass look for about $1000.
I am sure for some people this would be a great option. Great comment.
What about the mag ride?
I did exactly that plus Procharger , LT4 fuel system , methanol injection, and headers. So basically when everybody says “oh look a stingray “. I can put a “ I just pumped the neighbors cat look on their face when i gap the crap out on them.
But it isn’t as wide as the grand sport
True but everyone still knows you don’t have the big dawg.
I'D rather take the stingray and put a ten thousand dollar supercharger on it with the z51 package. Just my opinion.
There is no wrong answer 👍🏻😎
i’m fine with the Stingray. my hard driving days are behind me. just want a nice car that’s reliable to take on longer trips
❤good job zztops look a like navy veteran I got a 2019 CV brother
My opinion is depends which look you prefer - the Z51 is slim more steamlined like a Muhamad Ali. The GS is heavy stocky build like Mike Tyson.
Grandsport any day but I can't afford it so I gotta go with the stingray
It depends on what you want to do with the car, and your resources. I track mine often, so went for a Z06 with Z07 package. Won LS Fest in it last week. If I could only afford a Vette for daily driving, it would be a Stingray. You can drive one for a very reasonable price, and maintain it reasonably as well. Luckily, they built one for each of us.
My first Vette is the 2017 Z06 with Z07 package. I went for the top right out of the box, and I have no regrets. The only thing I would say with respect to taking a Grand Sport or base Stingray, and then modifying it to make huge power, is.....say goodbye to your warranty. The whole advantage of buying a new car with all the power you need is the 5 year 100,000 mile warranty that comes along with it. I don't like surprises............especially ones I have to pay for......
Large Modifications defiantly come after the warranty is over. did they change the warranty for 2017. The 2016 only came with 5 year 60K. You defiantly have a great car the only thing I would change on the Z07 package are the tires. Cup 2's shouldn't come on those cars.
The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act covers this issue. Modifying your car does not void the manufactures warranty. This is a myth. Dealers say modifications void the warranty because the dealership eats the cost of repairs. The dealer has to show positive proof and without doubt or question that a particular modification caused the malfunction of the warrantied part. If you come across a dealership who says your mod voided out your manufactures warranty, you need to show them, The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. They know of this Act, but do not have to inform you of it.
Sold my 2012 GS to buy a 2007 Z06. What a blast of horse power. This Z06 puts the fun back into driving. It's a rocket!
70 years old Just bought a Grand Sport .... NICE,
Congratulations, You do know 70 is the new 50 so you have allot of great years to enjoy that awesome corvette. Thanks for sharing.
john moore Hope you don’t disrespect that car and drive like your 70!...
john moore 57 and bought a 2017 black on black grand sport today. First non daily driver I've ever bought
This guy needs some serious ADHD medication.
I've owned a 2016 C7 stingray and now own a 2018 Grandsport, it's definitely a nicer car than a C7 stingray, it's more balanced , the GS has the wider body and tires and better suspension to handle the power better.. from a dig it just hooks so much better..
Corvette Stingray 2LT with Z51 package and MRC is the bomb mac-diggity. Dual mode exhaust sings. In my opinion as good as most any other Corvette out there performance wise, GS or Stingray. Differences seem mostly cosmetic - GS has external lower rear vent - Stingray has lower rear vent under the car. Identical horsepower and torque numbers. GS has stage 2 aero, 2 extra brake pistons and slightly wider wheels. GS does look more aggressive but real world performance is identical. The big jump is from 460 horse power to 650 for Z06 and even higher for ZR1. In the end I think what matters is are you happy with your choice? I think just owning a Corvette is a blast. Besides you can always change the car over time to suit your needs.
Bought a stingray to build it up and track it myself. After i’m done I will be buying a 2019 Zr1 as a little reward and treat lol I am fortunate to own super cars but it just is not the same experience as building a sports car into a beast BY YOURSELF. Nothing like it. C7 is the perfect car for that. I used to drive a continental GT as my daily but ever since i got the stingray, that’s been my #1 choice for DD.
Hello there. I just ran across your videos and I am sold on the Grand Sport C7 now. I've owned 8 different Corvettes and I'm currently driving a convertible Mercedes but now realize that I miss my Vettes. Not so much for what others think, but because it really is my car of choice and i miss the positive feeling of the low, hard ride. Anyway, i like the way that you present your videos and will subscribe. Keep presenting OUR cars in a positive light and may God bless your Family as well as your Corvette Family!!
Welcome to the community Dave. This is an amazing sports car and being made in the US makes it even better. 👍🏻😎
I'd need to drive both to see daily capability/comfort/practicality. The Grand Sport is gorgeous, it genuinely stirs something inside your soul and that's what I want, I just hope the cheaper Z51 is not way too comfortable in comparison.
I would get the Zo6 if it didn't have those overheating issues. Probably the mid-engined Zo6 will be the car to get.
There is a way around the overheating issues see my video overheating fix plus this only happen if you are on the track and its a hot day and you are putting down allot laps. Normal driving and even out getting on it with some friends has never been an issue for me.
We talked about this yesterday somewhat. I'm glad you made a video on the subject. I'm going GS all the way ! Stingray is still a pretty nice package as well but I need that aggressive body of the Z06. Great video Chuck!
Thanks Michael for stopping by the channel. I agree the aggressive body style is why the GS is about to overtake the Stingray in sales.
Great video and you make some good points. I would suggest that a person buy what they can comfortably afford to get into a vette. Regardless if it's the base model, Z51, GS, or Z06, just owning a vette, is a great experience.
counterinsurgency SME totally agree and that's why I made that very same comment in the video. People should always do what they can afford. Thanks for watching.
Right a vette a better they should be happy they have one
I love that Carbon 65. The ceramic Matrix gray looks awesome.👍
I totally agree this car has me thinking hard will want to watch this Saturdays video.
Long story hopefully short. I intend to put 20-40k miles on a Corvette over a 2 year period. Tire question: I don't want to get caught in the rain with Cup Tires which is stock on the Grand Sport and Z06, being that I want to put miles on it...stick with a regular Stingray? Tire wise the maximum life on tires is 15k. What would you suggest regarding tires and model?
The cup 2 tires only come with the Z07 package not al GS and Z06 have them most are super sports which do just fine in rain. The super sports will give you 25-30k miles if you have the camber and toe put to nearly zero.
Corvettes 918 Good to know as my car is not going to be a Garage Queen.
I owned my c3 for seven years man time flies when you are having fun
It doesn't take long for your to stop for a moment and think about how long you have had your corvette and you're like wow where did that time go.
I'm thinking about buying a c7 pretty soon whats the ultimate package that you recommend to buy for a budget of 100,000
For that you can get a C7 Z06 with the 3LZ package along with the Z07 package. Get the carbon Fiber interior pieces as well ad the carbon fiber Top and hood stinger. Thats probably going to MSRP at 108K but they will take 100K for it. Good luck on your new Corvette.
Thanks for the advice keep up with the great videos
sir I really appreciate this video. I retired from the Navy and my gift to myself will be a corvette! currently own a 2011 2SS Camaro. I will keep it when I get the corvette but this video helped me basically decide to go with the GS 2LT! thank you and I followed you on instagram as well.
First of all Thank You for your service to this amazing country and welcome to the community Eric very honored to have you. I would say the GS 2LT is is a very good choice. GM made over 13,400 of them last year out of the gates because the demand is very high for them. It is a gorgeous sports car for sure. Let me know when you get it so you can send me a pic to show everyone on the channel. 👍👍
Way to go Shipmate, retired in 2004 and bought a 2006 GTO, Sept 2006. Didn't think about a Vette until this year. Bought a 77 C3 last month, now I'm thinking C7.
New to the channel! Awesome stuff man! Im 15 and love cars especially Corvettes and love the editing and the fact that you actually drive the car!
Welcome to the channel Duane. Glad to have you and hope you enjoy coming along for the ride each week.
For past 4 months got smart on the market - test drove about 12 local cars... had a great GS w 20k miles on it picked out at Stingray Chevy... interior noise - not from exhaust or engine but from road rumble/tires was on the high side for me. Took my wife for a test drive and she declared it: this will give us a headache on a 1hr+ drive... so much for the GS! I know its a sportscar for petes sake and the noise comes with the territory.... - Just wanted to share with others who like me LOVED the GS and may be interior noise-sensitive... I ended up with a 2019 3LT with 10k miles the npp exhaust and the Z51 chrome wheels - saved $10k and don't have a headache and enjoy driving 3 hrs to see my sister...
I'll always miss that 2019 GS - the last of the best IMHO - but I'll do much better for my use on the stingray...
if anyone wants my transparent top in trade for their CF just let me know!
Not a convertible lol. I would say GS because it's the perfect middle of the road car. The handling of a Z06 yet the silky LT1. Plus you could easily add power to get where your comfortable and have the suspension to handle it. Plus the looks are amazing. Either way it's a win.
I am not a convertible guy myself but really enjoy the GS looks but I am a little bias because it looks like a Z06 😂. I agree either way its a corvette and a win.
i'LL DEF Take the Grand Sport. Because it adds that traction..
Id get it in 2LT so it would be decently optioned out
I agree as well.
My 1st vette was a 2011 GS, the GS is a great value, it is for the most part a Z06 with a base motor, I think the C7 GS also has standard Mag ride suspension, the Carbon 65 is a beautiful package and as always keep the good work up see you next video.
GS to a Z06 so you have got to enjoy both. What has been your favorite to this point?
I drove the 2011 C6 GS a lot more more then I do my 2016 C7 Z06, both cars are very strong performers but the C7 is so much improved and the HP in the C7 Z06 is far above any car I have built or bought in my life, I will send you a photo of my old C6 in a few days, As always A like and be safe,, !!
Morning, with the 2018 GS you can get the ZO7 brakes with the ZO7 pkg now...also the dash over thee instrument cluster down to the grab handle comes in the color of the interior in a 2LT pkg, just like the 3LTpkg.
Keep up the good work on your blogs...
Demmolitionman So you can get the carbon ceramics brakes and rotors without having to get the cup2 tires? I knew you can option for the Z07 Brakes without the package but I was thinking you still got stuck with those racing slicks. That is huge if you get the Z07 brake system and keep the pilot super Sport S 4 tires. It's much cheaper to do the after market Arrow kits yourself. Very good comment thanks for sharing.
good advice...i am planning to custom one myself soon...red and red both inside and out...i am glad that we will get 20 inches wheel for 2018 model anyway...i need base stingray with 2lt package and auto transmission...and i will modify the car once i get it...at least kn cold air intake and front bumper wrap to protect the car...and of course aftermarket rear wing...going to be awesome
Sounds like its going to be an awesome car. Can't wait to see it.
67 years old. Just bought a '19 Stingray. Kept my C5 ....
Congratulations, as you can tell by the drive the Corvette has come a ways since the C5 which is an awesome corvette in its own right.
Ur living in the past man the 70s r over
Unless regular tracking would settle for a Stingray. If I bought new would option for museum delivery. If I did get a Grand Sport would find one with out painted hash marks. Just my preferences.
Thats what great about corvette is that you can have one built just the way you want it. 😎👍
That yellow 80 model is my dream car.... would have bought one but the motorcycle bug bit me and I can't quit. Love your car, beats a mustang any day.
😂😂. You have to watch out for those bugs when they bite the fever gets hot. Thanks for stopping by the channel and that 1980 is a heck of a C3.
My first vette was an '80 had a lot fun in it, sold it got a '72, posted it on line to show it to peeps and got and offer 2 years later for 5,000 more than I paid, sold it. Should have kept it. Wife wanted a convertible bought an '87 absolutely the worst (mechanically speaking car ever!) sold it. Kids came along needed a 4 seater convert , bought a '06 Mustang GT, added every bolt on available black on black an posted it to show it and someone swooped in with an offer I couldn't refuse. Sold it. Bought a used '02 convert vette, drove it a couple years and missed the 4 seater (kids) sold it found another '06 exactly the same as the other one and drove it, but didn't want to go through all the "power" upgrades. Sold it, bought a '08 GT500. Wow what car! It's been a few years, wife can't drive it ,it's just too much for her to handle at (modified bolt ons tune etc.) over 550 at wheels. Recent vacation took us through Bowling Green and stopped at the corvette museum and sure enough the wife wants that new vette! Found a '14 with less that 20 k miles and it looks like I'll be parking my FORD next to her CHEVY which makes sense since one of us is a CUBS fan and the other is a SOX fan LoL!
Neither...get a C6 ZR1 like I did. Best performance car bargain of the century.
Agree, this was just a discussion about the stingray and GS. They only made a little over 4K ZR1's for the C6 so not everyone can get one. :)
Corvettes 918 let me know when you get down to dallas. I'll take you out to one of the DFW get togethers.
Definitely, there are several guys in the community that are from now in the Dallas, Frisco, Garland, North Richland Hills, Hurst, Plano area so will be a good time.
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And I have the 3/4 side skirts and they look correct on my Stingray
Love the cars but I just wonder why I dont see people my age of the 20's driving them. I chose a Z51 Package L3. It fit my budget and still gave me the performance I desire. After I pay her off, I may still get a Z06 of 2017 or 2018. However thats up for debate because Im still very happy with the Z51 Package. As you said, the C7 has that aggressive look. Its like comparing tron of the old days and then the newer one. C6 and before is my Fathers and Grandfathers gen. C7 is mine.
Thank you for stopping by the channel, I appreciate the comment and support. 👊👍😎
Corvettes 918 In all honesty, Im still in shock how C7 is ending so quickly. The last is the Carbon 65, the 2018 Model and then C8 takes over. It is in my hopes that they change the Corvette so much on the C8 that the C7 maintains desirability/style, just like the C3. Im sticking with the C7. That body style rules.
nicely done ! I think any corvette you can get willl do the job!! man. what a machine corvettes are!!
totally agree.
I like the look of the GS a bit more but I got a Stingray with a 2LT manual and Mag ride and am glad I did. The GS wheels are cracking and bending much more easily than the Stingray and mine will never see the track so no need for bigger wheels and brakes. Stingray for me.
Hello corvette 918, from what I saw online from the bash and what was being discussed as far what was new for the 2018 GS model, they nothing about pilot cup 2 tires when ordering the Brembo brakes. Not saying that getting the brakes without the ZO7 pkg that those tires wouldnt not be included. But I don"t remmember on any of the videos them saying that.
Thank you sir.
New to the channel can't believe I didn't find this sooner as I live in Tulsa. Love the vids man
Welcome to to the Corvettes918 community. There are several Tulsa car guys in the community and we are going to be doing a cruise in a few weeks. I mention it in this weeks Vlog, if you have a sports cars come join us. Again, welcome.
The correct answer is either get the stingray (based on the price what you’re getting its worth although it looks nothing like or performs like the z06) GS for the money better off paying for z06
I don't like the little vinyls above the front wheels on the grandsport. Might go with stingray because of those
Change them out with carbon fiber of carbon flash. 👍🏻
Has anyone had issues with the Z06 overheating? Apparently the problem still has not been fixed and there is a pending lawsuit
Just got me a 19 gs and not planning anytime soon to track it but it looks great
great video as usual!! Absolutely love the aggressive look of the grand sport. Yellow or white with black wheels.
I agree with the GS and I am sure you were enjoying those Yellow Vettes that were out that day.
Grand Sport all the way. I have 2019 white with black wheels, heritage, 2TL with ground effects package. Would not even consider a stingray. They are nice but not a Grand Sport
You can get a Stingray that looks very similar to a grand sport.
Also new to channel, enjoy your videos, and will send you pictures. Keep it going, Paul
Very cool, Glad to have you Paul, Looking forward to the pictures.
Think the GS is the sweet spot in the vette lineup. Get a bit of the performance goodies that stingray doesn't have but it won't break the bank. The zo6 is awesome but do you really need 650hp?
By the looks it seems everyone prefers the grand sport over the base stingray, I do too I’ve seen both at the dealership I saw and got in a zo6 grand sport package with the carbon fiber I just might be the youngest c7 corvette owner with a manual transmission
Just got a 2016 Stingray Z51. Love it so far! Couple questions, does track mode have the best/fastest throttle response vs all other modes including sport? Second, does it "hurt" the car if you just drive in track mode all the time? I usually drive in sport a lot but kinda love the track feel and throttle response better. Just didn't know if it's bad for the car to just keep in track mode 100% of the time.
Another great video, chuck. Love the Carbon 65. Very cool!
Thanks Rusty, The Carbon 65 was very impressive so much It has me thinking about possible getting one. Very sharp car.
Good afternoon Sir, I have a question....I live in a complex that has too many speed bumps....Is this a big problem when owning a Corvette or any sports car for that matter? Respectfully...
Speet bumps are never good for cars that sit this low. Even on stock bolts I think you may have an issue with hitting the nose depending on the type of bumps you have.
Hey I was looking at a porsche turbo or a Z06 what’s the advantage of having a Vett’s over a Porsche . I love the new look of the vett
I'm in love with that black one
In your intro you remarked that for the person who doesn't want a ZO6's massive amounts of power a Grand Sport or Stingray maybe your best options.
The Grand Sport has similar body styling to a ZO6 and with some modifications can perform like a ZO6 (slightly less money?).
A Stingray is about 100 hp less then a Grand Sport but has enough "go" to satisfy most drivers and its body style is intentionally similar to a classic Stingray.
If my garage was big enough I'd get a Stingray.
All true points but to get a 650HP and 650Tq stock with a 5 year 60K mike warranty is pretty impressive. You procharge a Stingray or GS, along with a tune and maybe cam or heads. The first time you that car doing some laps if something goes wrong and the car is sidelined because now the people who did the mods are saying you did something to it on the track that Z06 for the money will seam like a steel. Push that stock Z06 all you want and if you tear it up take it back to the dealer so GM will fix it on their dime. 😎. Great comment thanks for watching.
Awesome video sir I have a c6 grandsport I love my vette my 3rd one but 1st grandsport
Chuck, I think the difference in whether a person buys a Stingray or Grand Sport comes down to price.
I went Stingray, partially because of money, and partly because I daily drive my corvette and the roads here in AZ are horrible and there are lots of speed bumps and steep driveways. Lowered suspension, aero and super low profile tires make for a lot of repair bills around here!!
Grandsport would be my preference.
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Jay Dontknowbetter Stingray all day everyday💯👍🏻
Could you tell me why my 2016 Stingray with 20s on back and 19s on front didn’t come with slotted rotors?
just got mine !
Congratulations on the new car👊😎👍
For me zo6 or gran sport and thank you for this video it helped me choose what corvette to pick
Glad you stopped by the channel. You can't go wrong either way both amazing cars. One just lights your hair on fire. 😁
What about the special packages like the Spice interior? More specifically can I get color matched Z06 spoiler as well as the aero package color matched in the grand sport.?
You can get the spice red in a GS now the spoilers only come in Carbon flash you would have to go after market on that. You can get the side vents to match the color of the car.
Lots of nice cars. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for stopping by the channel as always.
Please tell me the wheel size/brand on the yellow 70 or 80's Corvette?
It comes down to preference and price
Just got my 2017 2ss camaro in march but I plan on trading it in next year for a corvette. Stingray or grand sport?
If you can swing the GS go that rout if you go stingray make sure it has the Z51 package. Congratulations on the Camaro those look really cool.
There is only going to be 650 Carbon 65's made in GS and Z06 trim 450 for the US market and 200 for GM's world market with probably the lion share going to Canada and Europe.
They made about as many GS as they did Stingrays for 2017 so from a collectability standpoint one will not demand more for being made less like the later C6 2011+ where the GS was being made like 3 or 4 to 1 ratio over the regular vettes even these GS will demand more money but it could flip after 40 or 50 years where the regular vettes due to being less of them surpass the GS C6's.
I was told by a few GM exects in marketing and sales that the new GS was brought out with the heavy road track/autocross oriented user in mind or the ones that want to compete in a lower class or HP group races. I'm talking about people that do it for a living at it, where they have almost everything the Z06 has minus the S/C LT-4 engine. The GS shares more with the Z06 than the Z-51. So it comes down to what your use for the car is if you hit an autocross or track like 2-3 times a month then the GS is the way to go. But if you want a fun car and one that you don't see at every street corner then the Z06 fits the bill. Or if you just don't like or trust supercharged engines for what ever reason the GS is also the way to go.
I was told a funny story that Road America had an open track day in early fall 2015 where a few GM test drivers was giving classes and rides around the track and they was besting Z06's driven by their owners with just run of the mill Z51 Vettes around the track by a full 2 to 3 seconds a lap! Just goes to show you that you can have all the HP in the world but if you don't have the skills the better driver will pass you in what should be the inferior car. It was these types of people the GS was made for.
great comment. It all comes down to the driver. 80% of Corvettes will never see a track but knowing you are driving something that can do those things is more than enough for most guys.
Do you know what the difference is in ground clearance on a Corvette stingray Z51 versus a grand sport?
Can’t tell you for sure but the GS does sit a little lower than the Z51 not by much though.
Hi Chuck! Enjoy your channel and enthusiasm. Admire your story of overcoming your loss.
My question is: in your video, between the ceramic matrix gray of the carbon 65 edition and the arctic white, which did you like better?
I haven't seen the carbon 65 in person yet. I'm thinking about ordering a grand sport with hyper green hash marks when the plant opens back up, but I can't decide on color. Narrowed it down to these two.
Thanks in advance!
Ceramic Marie Gray is hands down better looking than the Arctic white. I talk about this very thing in tomorrows video.
Corvettes 918 Great, I'll be watching!
Im going next week to pick one of these up. One question is the ride height allot different in the grand sport vs stingray? Im scared i cant get the grand sport up my driveway
same rice heights just don't lower the car and you will be fine. 👍😎
What were the options on that nice black Z06?
Great video....nice.......love the mods vetts....great sounds
I agree Frosty thanks for stopping by the channel.
Z51 would do.
GREAT VIDEO Chuck, I have a 2ss/rs Camaro. I have customized it and I just love her to death but every since I joined your channel I have started craving Corvettes, the last two weeks I've been seeking I thought I found the nicest Stingray until I saw this video. I now know I can't purchase the stingray. I can't get the Z06 either bc of the sticker price but I can and I will look for the Grandsport. I want it as pretty as your Z06 that I feel in love with the moment I saw her:) This video allowed me to see just how much more AGGRESSIVE the Grandsport looks over the Stringray. Don't get me wrong the Stringray is nice but the Grandsport looks better and I can imitate your Z06 and be happy. LOL. Keep the video's coming I'm sure I speak for all the guys we really enjoy them as car enthusiasts. Thanks again.
When is your corvette meets?
Check out tomorrow video will have info on that.
Hows the maintenance on these cars?
Depends on how much you drive it. I don't find it to be that expensive.
I drive a C7 Z06 and just had to replace all 4 tires and ran me over $2.5K🤷🏽♂️ But i also got the oil changed for $50, so I guess it depends on what you’re having worked on lol
Tires
You guys need a callaway mod in your group !!! The only place we deliver to that gm allows to mod.
We do not have a Callaway.
Grandsport 😍
What kind of HP does the yellow one have? The older model..
Have no clue next time I see him will ask.
I want a corvette grandsport so bad 😥
How is driving your car now that it's been lowered?
You can tell its lower if thats possible. It drives the same does feel a little better in corners and the view is a little different. I feel like I am sitting up a little higher but overall very happy with the change. Several guys in the vette club have it on their list of things to do at the next tech day.
Come OoooN! Get away from the white Vette and talk about what the video is for! I'm frustrated and my patients are short!
Hey Chuck do you take your car out in the rain?
Yes, just two videos back the one of me lowering it check it out. I am Vlogging while driving in the rain. 😂😂 Its not going to hurt the car and the tires do great.
Thanks! Great Videos keep up the good work! I just purchased my first corvette learned a lot from your videos.
Hey Chuck, nice work as always on your live stream. Question for you...would you consider not calling out each person as they join the stream? I find it somewhat distracting. I realize that you want to acknowledge folks as they join, so...what do you think?
ISUringman1974 I call out just a fraction of the people who watch live and comment. I spend more talking about the subject. Acknowledging people from time to time is a way of interacting with those who stop in live. That's just my way of saying thank you. Everyone has their own style in how they run their live streams and that's mine. Thanks for watching.
I know, Chuck. You're a good man! Appreciate you and the time & effort that you put into your vids.
Hi Chuck, Man of Few Words here. Missed you live because Mother Nature gave Northern NJ a nice evening for a cruise night. I'm really starting to like the Carbon 65, but man, it's a $15k option which is a bit hard to swallow. Loved your dialogue and Stingray vs. GS is always a good subject. Looking forward to Saturday at 9:00AM. Until then, have a gifted week and Save the Wave. Peter P.S. I was at Kerbeck in Atlantic City yesterday and their "sources" tell them the new ZR1 will not be revealed until the Geneva Auto Show in 2018 and they have no idea when you'll be able to order one. I would be interested in what your sources might have to say about it. Maybe this subject would make for good content in an upcoming video of yours.
Cruising is more important than any live stream or video I will ever put out. Glad you guys has the opportunity to get and enjoy some great weather with a great car. If it does not come out this weekend which it looks like its not because there his no media hype or at Corvettes at Carlisle at the end of August then I would have no clue when it's coming out. I sure hope they don't wait until the North American Auto Show in January up in Detroit.
Thanks Chuck, It sure felt good to be back out at a Cruise Night. A lot of guys must have felt like me - stale and moldy. lol Of course a few spirited miles on Rt.80, the section that runs through Mexico of course, helped solve THAT problem. Over 250 cars turned out. As to the ZR1, I agree with you. I'll be at Carlisle August 24 - August 27. I've got you on speed email if there's anything news worthy. Stay tuned.
Sting Ray or Grand Sport? Neither I say Z06???
Thanks for the great video
Thanks Randy, I appreciate you stopping by the channel.
Thanks for the vid, that white GS coupe is really the way to go, and if it has red interior much better.. 👍
Convertible stingray and GrandSport hard top
can't go wrong with either. If you're a convertible type of person.
That’s a lie you can fit 335 on a stingray rear tires I have stock z06 oem rims and tires on it
Which is better the z52 1Tl or the 2tl?
Your videos are always awesome
Thanks Mr. Kay I always appreciate the support.
How awesome! A C3!
Apparently black and blue dont mesh. I disagree, id say its the best color combination. Should have black rims too
Love the videos as always! And what day are you going to Corvette weekend in Eureka Springs?
Matt Kolbert we are headed up Thursday Morning.
I bought a C7 Z51 3lt I couldn't see spending extra money on the grand sport they both have the same engine I'm from Michigan we have probably the worst roads in the country the grand sport shares the rim problem with the Z06 the Z51 doesn't have the rim problems I have a 8k supercharger on mine with the 7speed manual transmission it runs with the big boys
So which is faster?
Have the same HP
Corvettes 918 so I assume the grand sport is the same thing but fancier
Peyton's Vault It has the Z51 package already included and is built like the Z06 without the HP. It is better on the track but yes just more fancy.
Corvettes 918 oh now I see thanks for the info, u know ur stuff
The GS is definitely faster
Video begins at 4:00
I like the GS since it is wider
the Zora will have a new level of active aero