twisted guitar neck you NEVER want to happen!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- this doesn't happen to a guitar very often, but when it does... thanks for tuning in for the ride!
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When you showed the right side from heel end, I could see a hump...like a back bow or too much relief, but then when you went to the left side it looked straight. But there are some angles you can see the twist...hard thing to put on camera, you did a good job.
The thumbnail for this video was the first time that I was ever able to see an actual twist. First Rate! Keep it up, Randy.
You can totally see how the neck shifts as you go up and down the board. Absolutely tragic. I'm glad it's still under warranty.
My Epiphone LP was the same and the guitar store would not take it on a trade in saying it was unfixable. It played and sounded good. I gave it away.
Just discovered your channel! Been watching like crazy past few days! Love the content! Hitting subscribe!
thank you Adam and welcome aboard the mad house! :D
Agghhrr! You’ve got me eyeballing down all my necks now, in case one is made from an old aircraft wing and looks like that one! 😃
I also have a Musikraft twisted neck. It has a relief on the high E side and it's straight on the Low E.
Twisted the night away thanks bro
For a minute I thought you might straighten it yourself...
Or at least attempt it....
Then I realized the neck has a warranty...
Yep Randy - I could see the twist. Now I'm afraid to look at the fretboards on some of my guitars...I'll bet a couple of mine are twisted to crap. Thanks for the piece on sighting for it - now I'll know what to look for. You rock Randy! Have a good one and stay safe brother!
it does make one paranoid!! I'm almost afraid to look at my very expensive Martins, if the neck ever twists on them I think I would have to find medicine for it, for me! lol thanks for having a look my friend! have a great weekend and stay safe and healthy!
@@RandySchartiger HAHAHA I hear you Randy!!! Have an awesome and safe weekend brother!
1:49 ouch...indeed, I don't want that to happen. Thanks Randy for the video! 🎶🎶🎶
it definitely is a bad thing to happen, to any guitar! thanks for checking it out Nicole! have a great weekend, cheers!
Hello!
Thank you for the video!
I'm about to buy a new Custom Shop Strat with 10-46 string gauge. The tech in the store measured the relief and the bass side reads 0.085" and the treble side reads 0.010".
a 0.0015 difference.
Do you recommend buying this one?
I heard that more relief on the bass side is preferable.
In the seventies, both Fender and Gibson shipped a fair amount of guitars with twisted necks, to the great frustration of many. But, maybe it wasn't a lack of quality control, as we've all been saying. Maybe... just maybe... they were secretly wishing to get into the light aircraft industry...
I do loves me some Sunday Vid’s; I will take some weekday vid’s. The twist was visible. Thanks
It went from being a Jimi Hendrix guitar to being a Chubby Checker guitar.
Interesting job, Randy!
Have a lovely week end and take care,
Cristina
thank you Cristina! hope your weekend is a great one also!
I bought a 700 dollar jackson ms dinky archtop 8 string off of a guy from Canada (im American) 6 months back. The condition was rated very good and said only had minor bumps and scratches but played perfectly, the reason for him selling it said was that he had started using seven strings a lot more and just haven’t touched it for a bit. the guitar never sounded great but it was alright, I haven’t really had much time to sit down and play the guitar as it has been my first year of college, and I have been busy. Recently, I’ve had free time to really sit down and figure out what the problem is. It’s neck is twisted and warped in 2 different directions. I haven’t been able to contact the guy who sold it to me and I don’t think reverb can do anything, it’s a Neck through (Guitar) so there’s no way to remove the neck. I brought it to my local (Guitar) store and they said there’s almost no way to make this play good ever again. I’m bringing it to the theater tomorrow to see if there’s anything I can do. If not, I wasted $700 from a person scamming me and reverb.
Dang, I'm 15 minutes from Vineland! An incidentally, I just heard about music kraft yesterday from my brother-in-law. Small world.
damn. i see it. wow!
Hey Randy, if you don't mind me asking, how did you get started doing guitar repair? Also, do you use any books or reference guides while you work, if so, what is it called? Thanks!
Sometimes you just can't win for losing Randy, I guess you would have to decide how many twisted necks you see as to whether you need to check for it in future.
yeah , i see it brother. Bad shape.
Hey Randy, I have a neck from a Kramer Ferrington that has a twist I can't believe. It may be five degrees or so. Is it possible to get it straight, or is it flight skool for it? Please if you can find time hit me back. ✌
I have a LTD with neck thru and cant REPLACE IT i cant Shred or solo on it because of dead notes and i bought it in 2017 and I've tried to have this fixed and i would have to have my fingerboard removed and the neck plained. Being a neck thru body i CANT REPLACE THE NECK like a bolt on neck. I have an LTD FM-300 Series that is not repairable. The locking nut for the trem was stripped and i couldnt get proper replacement nut so my strings are 3/16" above the fingerboard at frets 1&2 so i can't even fret a clear note this was a NO SHRED NO GO GUITAR FOR ME. This is my bad experience of having a TWISTED GUITAR NECK.
i had a twist in my strat i fought it for years and had to change necks
Good video Randy!!!!!))) I would think they would give him a new neck!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😊
I sent it back to the builder we will see if they replace it or not. thanks Steve!
Hey sir Randy, i've adjust my truss rod neck. in this case, my neck on the low e string is looking straight, but on the high e string is bow forward. How's that possible?
Remember, a little bow is necessary or a guitar with low action will be prone to buzz. It's more common to see bow on the treble side with a straight or straighter bass side. You would think that there would be more stress on the bass side, but more bow always seems to occur on the treble side. This doesn't necessarily mean you have a twisted neck, but anyone should be aware of such changes & to inspect the neck every so often to see if one side is seeming to change more than the other. It is also worthy to note that humidity changes will effect neck relief as well. Sudden & drastic humidity changes can & will cause a neck to bow & sometimes twist so be aware of weather conditions when you ship instruments. Late spring & early fall are, in my opinion, the best times to ship with more ideal temperatures, but your location may be different.
Twisted necks are actually common….. But they take years to happen. If it’s a new neck, then it definitely a manufacturer problem.
Might the reversed headstock cause the longer bass strings to stress one side of the neck more than the other?
that's a good possibility! the head stock really wasn't designed for string stress in the way it is applied here, and the entire neck is twisted rather than just twisted in one spot. thanks for this idea and thanks for watching!
Hey Mr. Randy!
Id take mine to the chiropractor
Randy, you may have a twisted neck, but I have a twisted mind.
you and me both! lol thanks for viewing!
Wow 😳 crazy to see that great channel wanted to say thanks because of your videos I was able to fix a stripped truss rod nut. Shop I took it to tripped it and didn't tell me looking to learn how to setup my own guitars any advice on tools or how to learn thanks man
get every tool you can think of and I assure there will come a time you'll need it, I used to just buy tools as I needed them until I had everything I needed for the type of work I do. thanks for watching and happy repairs my friend!
get it , got it , good .... twisted brother shame . I hope they help the guy out . How are you doing Randy ?
I hope so too. doing good man thank! and thanks for watching! I hope all is well in your world! cheers!
@@RandySchartiger no snow yet so its
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Randy, I asked you several months ago about repairing a warped top on a 53 year old Trump 12 string guitar and you laughed at me. It was not meant as a joke. I was serious. That really is the name of it. Is it worth trying to fix?
Hey Randy, could you ship Earl's neck to NJ? Ever try to twist Earls neck? Of course he'd probably like it and insist on a twist everyday! I tried to do a bit of a set up on a friends guitar, about $200 axe new, and the neck was twisted. I did the best I could and it was better but it's hard to make a Hugo into a Cadallac. But it turned out better than it was. I did indeed see that twist and that would be a hard thing to correct. I'd think about all you could do is make a new neck with some top of the line seasoned wood and reuse the fret board and tuners. But it would be cheaper just to buy a new one I recon, eh? Thanks for yet another THTNS video, much appreciated. May be you could adjust Earl's neck with a chain saw or do you think he'd like that? Thanks Kindly Bro! Blessings to All At THTNS from DaveyJO p.s. I think you need Peanuts!
ah yes a great idea adjusting Earls neck with a chainsaw! surely that would not be enjoyable for him as it would for me lol yeah may be able to take off the fret board and plane the neck flat. I've had success in forcing the twist out along with fails, but clamping it flat under heat and humidity sometimes works. thanks for having a look brother!
It’s a real bummer when you go to all the trouble you did to get the setup perfect only to find out that you have wasted all of that time and energy. Don’t knock yourself out over this incident Randy - After you have played the instrument and everything and everything seems fine, you don’t feel the need to check for neck twisting😥. Take care my friend.
exactly right! it's weird how well it played after I set it up and then something like this happen. but strange things happen now and then and I guess this was one of those times. thanks for checking it out!
reminds me of a joke someone made when asking what that meant and the guy says that it basically means 'bigger than it's supposed to be so the other guy who is asking the question asks 'so if I say that somebody's girlfriend is 'wallard out' would be a bad idea right? lol
LOL! that might not go over well lmao thanks for viewing mate!
I won't be using Music Craft for anything. They obviously don't have any quality control procedures.
Honestly you never held the camera level with the rosewood reveal line. Always tilted the camera a little. It also looks like some of the file work wasn't to profile radious. . Looks like a hump from the frets, but the wood looked ok. Not sure on camera, frets shouldn't buzz after a good set up too bad. If there is enough relief, you shouldn't hear buzzing alot. Maybe when you strum or pick hard.
the way I shake I'm lucky to hold a camera at all. the frets have some blue marker on them I colored them to check for low or high frets. thanks for checking it out.
Can see the twist. Guitar fetish sells twisted necks for a discount usually. Dont know why someone would buy one except for luthier practice...
As long as the path for each string is straight, a twist is no problem.
Yep it’s twisted. Looks like to much to take out of the frets.
that's what I thought too Dane, here in person you can see it a lot more than it shows up on camera. thanks for having a look!
The inappropriate joke wasn't funny tho mate