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Who wins: immortal godslayer and army crusher mercenaries who wield the mightiest of weapons alongside their power to harness the fundamental fuel of reality into destructive capabilities or...a few singing cubes?
Who would win? 50 foot robots that have the capacity to him across time lines with the capacity to change those timeliness and make you cease to exist? Or a bunch of meatsacks with peashooters?
Callouts are obviously Cup, Dragon with spear, Antumbra, Continuous, 5, and Empowered Left. Should be obvious which callout corresponds to which oracle.
Hey Evan, just wanted to let you know that even though I'm relatively new to destiny I can tell already that you filll a critical and specific role in the community. Also that video you made a while ago with Byf had a great commentary and was hilarious. You have a wealth of knowledge and it's really a pleasure to watch your content.
What made me happy was the fact this team WASNT a big name of destiny youtubers. It was some friends and they did it. Gives me and my clan mates hope that we have a chance to get worlds first one day
@@aurockson2696 did you use anarchy, salvagers salvo and grenades? I think people were thrown off by atheon DPS because it was ability based. I skipped day one cause I was sick and people wanted D1 experience. Was his DPS check as bad as Taniks day 1?
only 6 hrs? those are rookie numbers! we stuck there for 8 and 1/2 hrs. Sadly the hardest challenge to search for randoms (the core of the fireteam was only 3) who won't disconnect after 2 wipes.
I am surprised people where stuck at atheon it only took my team 2-3 tries to get it since we were all using anarchy sniper for normal and then in challenge we use anarchy double slug on challenge
@@Kantoro nah i unsubbed from his ass for not acknowledging the sheer amount if players who had trouble with thay door. Fuck youtubers. We had people who straight up never got past the door and waited till day 2
I feel like people don't realize that in the Atheon encounter when your doing damage you can use the relic's super it does pretty good damage and if you use it three time it gets rid of the relic letting you not worry about the timer.
@Mr Pickles Yeah it’s not great, in an ideal world the relic holder should be the warlock with the well, so everyone else can utilise damage supers like thundercrash, nova bomb etc
@@djroomba6511 There are (still and probably always will be) people who are like "haha Destiny's shit, bungie bad, no story, dead game, haha" There have been people like that since 2014, but that won't change how wrong they are.
Day one was hard but like DSC, it was so good! I have yet to get BittePearl shaded and this is so good. I hope Bungie brings back older raids from D1 to D2! Hell, I couldn't do Day One VoG and DSC. Nostalgia is always a good thing. Revisiting something after years. Here is the hope that Bungie keeps this up.
@@Divinity223 they didn't bring back atheons epilogue. And if they don't bring back necrochasm if and when they bring back crotas end, it will 100% be the worst raid in the history of destiny. That gun made the raid for me, and nothing has even come close to the amount of fun i had with it.
Got my first clear 2 days ago, and got vex. The 6 stack I was playing with were extremely helpful and even helped me get the shader for VOG. Starting to fall in love with this game again.
Knowing our team got through Templar in less than 10 shots is very comforting. Knowing we were keeping up pace with the world's best teams... Even more so. Gatekeepers and atheon were something else though for our team. One of these days... I'm getting that day 1 Emblem.
one of my favorite D1 raids, I love how they updated the raid. I run a few times a week past my 3 loot completions for the title triumphs and just for fun.
This dude really needs more subs. Viewers because have you seen how much effort is put into these videos. Not gonna lie I’ve just been binging the raid videos.
my team did left/right/mid, only calling out the first two oracles, and only saying close/far if two oracles were in the same "lane". it works very well!
My team fell at atheon during day 1 do to time constraints. I'm still proud of our team for making it that far considering It was our first day 1 raid. We even managed to keep up with some of the big teams up until gatekeeper.
My team ended up using an analog clock formation with Atheon being the center and the big glass doorway being 12:00. So our calls ended up being 12, 2, 4,, 6, 8, 10 going around clockwise. I'm just glad everyone on my raid team knew how to read an analog clock. Also we went into this raid completely blind for our day 1 clear and it was a ton of fun. We didn't get to challenge mode cause we beat Atheon at just under 12 hours of raiding and we were super tired.
It’s great the new lights have a chance to experience the magic d1 players all felt back then. It was something you had to be there for, and while they’ve changed a few things and added stuff, the original feeling and tone of this raid is largely preserved it seems.
It was nice not having to spend every second of my free time grinding to be as high of a level as I could to do the raid so I hope Bungie keeps doing this in the future. That being said I still spent every second of free time grinding my level out of habit :)
In my last team -auto rifle on oracle -lap around Mars before leaving -hugging suplicants -can’t see detain debuff -flying back into venus -hammers All on atheon in a KWTD post
I got it on my 2nd time going through it. 😁🙌🏼 Was soooo happy. I had terrible RNG for Deep Stone Crypt, so I really appreciated Bungie making up for it by giving me my Vex. lol
I think my favorite part about vog coming back was being able to run it with people that never got to and leading them through, it felt good to get deja vu of my old raid team and the stupid stuff we did and our first time entering the vault while leading a new group of guardians through that and telling the stories along the way trying old strats and owning with the new ones it felt great to remember the joy from all those years ago.
Hotswapping should not go away simply because it doesn't harm anyone. It's hard to learn and it pays off because you can 1phase bosses close to you. I don't understand the people that want it to be gone, literally nothing changes for you. It's accessible to everyone who wants to learn it and gives another skill ceiling for the game. Maybe I'm just salty because I really love doing it, but I kinda think that the people who want it gone just don't want to learn it themselves and don't want other people to have a possibility to do more damage than them. Anyways really great video evan!!
Well the problem with hot swapping is the fact that you shouldn’t be ABLE to one phase a boss unless it’s tied to mechanics that cause it. Think about riven, a well designed and challenging encounter for pinnacle loot simplified to a DPS check that isn’t even that challenging. Most people have never even had to fight riven correctly because of this. Sure it makes riven more accessible but raids shouldn’t BE accessible. It should push you out of your comfort zone to get the absolute best loot in the game. Sadly this isn’t the case for most raids. That’s just my opinion though, considering how bungie makes raids nowadays I think hot swapping is fine I guess. I definitely can’t do it because I don’t know how on console but it doesn’t matter because my DPS with anarchy is still insane even while normal swapping shotguns with auto loading.
I always look forward to your hour long videos as I feel you are the best Destiny content creator on TH-cam for deep diving into topics from such an interesting point of view!
Another amazing video. Thanks again for the Interview you did with us. Clearly you take the time to research and create really well put together videos. Looking forward to the next raid video, even if it won't be till 2022. Keep making awesome content. :D
I hope you know that I stumbled upon your vids not too long ago, but you really do a great job of explaining past and current raids as well as important aspects of this game. You’re also funny. I hope more of the community supports you well into your future
As a bit of a VoG specialist, I’d like to make a few corrections. - In the opening encounter, Minotaur spawn locations were increased to 6 from 4 in D1. Also, the plates started pre-built in D1, but not in D2. - Oracle spawns were never random in D1. - One additional gorgon was added in the D2 version, and there were minor structural changes made to the labyrinth (and, in fact, the Templar and Atheon rooms too). - Gorgon AI were changed such that they “hear” certain sounds that they didn’t in D1, and also completely ignore sparrows (which used to be very loud to them). - This video neglected to mention the cleansing properties of the relic in both Templar and Gatekeeper, which are present in D1 but completely absent in D2. - Mars is past, Venus is future. - The *actual* difference in Atheon damage is that Time’s Vengeance no longer buffs weapon damage exclusively. This means that in D2, supers and grenades are more viable as a damage option, whereas in D1 they were mostly a waste of time. - The relic holder could always assist with damage. It was never a function of the relic timer; it was just that the relic was better used as a shield due to the lack of Well in D1. - Gatekeeper duo is still possible, and has already been done post-patch.
my callouts for atheon were as simple as: Subway = far left KFC = far middle Burger king = far right Pizza hut = close left Taco Bell = close middle McDonalds = close right
I was so excited for you to make this video, you always make these videos feel so alive and you just put so much effort into these videos. Keep up the great work Evan and hope you have a great day. My callouts for day one were NONE, didn’t try to do it.
Bro I started tearing up when we launched into the raid. The memories and friends I made whilst patrolling Venus and stepping into the raid for the first time came flooding and couldn’t stop it. 🥺🥺
@@KonK4tsu ok, so I napped out the pitches. I just noticed that the top 4 pitches can be arranged to sound EXACTLY like the second part of the song. I’ll try to rearrange the bottom three a little.
@@KonK4tsu it looks like that the bottom three tones have no connection to it. However, if the top 4 included one more higher note, it could create the whole song. The shadow keep title screen theme is Savathūn’s song, as you know. It is in a slightly different key than the oracle’s one. However, the second part is a key higher compared to the first part.
Great video! My team was pleasantly surprised when we saw that we were moving on to Atheon and some teams were still figuring out Templar. Gave us a slight confidence boost as a team that is able to figure out encounters and coordinate together.
to be honest with you. Your Raid Videos got me hooked to day 1 raid racing. DSC was my first d1 and i managed to finish it and i also finished VOG d1. Thank you for your Videos you absolute LEGEND
Ahh these evan videos are something else. For a fan of this game it's soothing to watch. And the quality of these vids assure that we'll come back here in the future when destiny will be long gone.
Best callouts NA here. 1 was over the Throne\spawn when you portal in, then numbered 2-6 going clockwise. Red was Mars, Green was Venus. We established this after 1-2 wipes and it made the encounter 100x easier.
My clans call outs are far and close Mars and venus, and then throne and mid. We use the portal identities, and it's super easy. Fun fact, when the portal opens in venus and Mars, the side corresponds to venus or Mars. So opening Mars portal, inside of Mars the open portal actually is Mars. Same with venus.
Currently crying because I’m rewatching this 6 months later and there’s still no COD zombies videos ;( I would love videos about each map like you have for each raid that would be so awesome as a big cod zombies fan
It took me 7 long years and its return in D2 for me to finally get Mythoclast. You can't even understand how much I was freaking out and practically in tears once it finally dropped for my Titan, who has been right alongside my Hunter since Y1 of D1. It felt like the completion of a character arc years in the making, and I wouldn't have it any other way. VoG and the Mythoclast is what kept me hooked on Destiny, and while I missed Taken King and Rise of Iron back in their glory days, I can safely say D2 has had me in for the long run, and to finally have the one thing in D1 that eluded me for so long just feels... So damn good. I'm glad VoG came back and I love how it returned, even if I have one tiny issue in Gatekeeper encounter, but damn if this raid isn't just as magical as the first time I stepped into that Vault
30:30 I realized that the prison the spawns and traps one player is a really go mechanic because of how everybody uses wells and titan bubbles, but this forces it to be weaker and riskier.
I did my first d2 run a few days ago. Got 3 Corrective Measure machine guns, 1 Found Verdict shotgun, and 2 Fatebringer hand cannons. No armor, and no Mythoclast. Still glad I even got to do one though.
As someone who worked on games for a little bit, my guess on Atheon's health pool storage bug is that it's there to stop the encounter from breaking when you try to start it, as start cues can be really easy to mess up, or glitch past, making patching that sort of thing quickly an issue, explaining why they came back to it as well. TLDR: Not a professional, my guess is it was a bandaid fix to stop worlds first teams from getting screwed over.
Evan never fails to capture the history of these raids, and your videos are always very awesome, thank you!! Regarding the shaders for silver, I honestly think it is ok. Bitterpearl is chatterwhite 2.0 and these are extra aesthetic things you can get for some cash. Theres not many items in the store that is sold solely for silver or at least other items can come in the bright dust rotations
If it means anything. I attempted an LFG for this raid race, we got to atheon day one, but never could clear the sponge that is Atheon. The reason I decided is because of your videos.
Atheon oracles were 1-6, Close Left - 1 Close Mid - 2 Close Right - 3 Far Left - 4 Far Mid - 5 Far Right - 6 Templar oracles were 1-7 starting from back right and going clockwise. But we stuck 1 person on each Oracles (1 person had 2). Day 1 we def took a while as I was the only person that had done OG VoG. But now it's pretty easy to do. Our guild ended up using our callout system after my group got our guilds first Atheon kill and I got first Mythoclast.
I'm a console (PS5) Guardian so we made it extremely easy. We used the shoulder buttons on the controller to signify back and front. On Xbox controllers the 1s and 2s would be replaced with B and T respectively. Also on PC I'd use 1-6 for the numpad as well. Front Left - L1 Front Middle - Front Mid Front Right - R1 Back Left - L2 Back Middle - Back Mid Back Right - R2 Back in D1 we used L1, L2, L3, Middle, R1, R2, and R3 for the Oracles during the Templar Suite (Confluxes through Templar boss fight) as well.
Pit and Stairs, and then left right centre. Nowadays we callout the position of the first oracle using the pit / stairs left right system, and then callout clockwise or counterclockwise depending on how they appeared. People inside anchor to the first callout then start shooting the rest in the direction called. It seems to work for us rather well.
I know its a bit late, but I just found your channel last week. Anyway my call outs day 1 were: Back left: "3" Back mid: "6" Back right: "9" Front left: "damn" Front mid: "you" Front right: "fine"
19:30 so true, i was ad clear for day 1, i would end runs with anywhere from 50-80 ads killed, and the next closest was usually like 15-20. we basically had 3.5 players on dps (because one of them handled oracles and detain). we wound up killing him right as enrage is near popped up.
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Im ACTUALLY triggered that you hyped up the 15th wish video only to hide it behind a paywall. Why?
wondeer who has been capable to do this in solo
i tried...
7 times
and i died 7 times
My teams callouts were based on the telprt spawn. they were spawn, left, right, Venus, Mars, and between the gates
Just copped the blue atraks hoodie 🔥
really thought you were gonna talk about the name controversy in the video.
THESE are the best call outs
Back left - "wether"
Back mid - "we"
Back right - "wanted"
Front left - " it"
Front mid - "or"
Front right - "not"
Yes. This is the only correct answer!
*whether*
Oh my god
You can even call out mars without it being out of place.... Dear god
Shoot we it not
Shoot or wanted we
Shoot whether we it
DAMAGE TIME
Who wins: immortal godslayer and army crusher mercenaries who wield the mightiest of weapons alongside their power to harness the fundamental fuel of reality into destructive capabilities or...a few singing cubes?
A few singing cubes win
Who would win? 50 foot robots that have the capacity to him across time lines with the capacity to change those timeliness and make you cease to exist?
Or a bunch of meatsacks with peashooters?
@@Saint_Wolf_ The English grammar wins.
@@ChrissRoss1 It most certainly doesn't, in most cases, Hive grammar wins since words in that language can be used as literal weapons.
@@Saint_Wolf_ bunch of meatsacks with peashooters
Whelp.. (smokes a pack of crayons) Time to farm this timeless relic until mythoclast drops like the good old days :''
You smoke crayons too? Glad I’m not the only one
Crayons do double duty for eating and smoking? What a steal!
@@alexandergordon648 most people think we only eat crayons but nope I'd smoke them my my good sir!
It's a better use of them i swear.. ;)
i snort crayon dust
@@БранимирНиколов-ж7ф nice
Most exciting part of this raid wasn't the raid mechanics. IT WAS THE GODAMN ABOVE 30 FPS CUTSCENE. My whole fireteam were screaming.
same lol
Unless you still have a PS4 or Xbox one
That must have been fabulous! My team was jaded about the cutscene and didn’t understand why I was happy.
@@LordSaladbar1 the consoles get 60 dude we are not playing on a fucking Wii
@@BigGodzillaFan-ju6vk xbox ones and ps4 are capped at 30fps
Callouts are obviously Cup, Dragon with spear, Antumbra, Continuous, 5, and Empowered Left.
Should be obvious which callout corresponds to which oracle.
No cap?
Ah yes i got a stroke
@Me and the boiz restarting the ussr evidence?
You do such a good job documenting the rich history of this game, and the community that holds it together. Power to you Evan.
Middle : beaver
Spawn: weasel
R1: anteater
R2: chicken
L1: cabbage
L2: spinage
Hardest raid boss x6
Spinach
@@Mario998plays god that was the bane of my existence, reading that just gave me flashbacks lol
"That one"
"The other one"
"No no not that one"
"This one"
"Left one (actually right on)"
"Just guess"
This hurts man
Sounds about right
Evan: "This chicken little shit"
Wyvern: Excuse me but I seem to recall from my height that YOU'RE the little shit here.
Aren't wyvrens as tall as Hydras or minotaurs
That wyvren seems to have some manners I mean it said excuse me
Hey Evan, just wanted to let you know that even though I'm relatively new to destiny I can tell already that you filll a critical and specific role in the community. Also that video you made a while ago with Byf had a great commentary and was hilarious.
You have a wealth of knowledge and it's really a pleasure to watch your content.
He and byf need to do a re do
What made me happy was the fact this team WASNT a big name of destiny youtubers. It was some friends and they did it. Gives me and my clan mates hope that we have a chance to get worlds first one day
Imagine being a person who can wield time, get f**cked up by these 6 people just so they can get some loot
yep, That's a terrible way to use up your existence
No more... Pls..
In every timeline these assholes show up where does it end.
The vex probably
@@thesecretsage6642 I. NEED. MY. VEX. MYTHOCLAST.
I was already waiting for this vid since vog launch, I love these raid videos
yeah same honestly
I loved your shotgun before it was sunset
Please tell me I wasn't the only one couldn't stop hearing the oracles when I tried to sleep after day one
All night
it sounds like a joke, but its actually true. Even a couple days after
Evan: "vog would be ez because everyone knows what there doing"
Everyone stuck at templar for 6 hours:
You were stuck at Templar? My day one team had very little trouble with Templar but Atheon was a monster. The damage check was real on Atheon..
@@aurockson2696 did you use anarchy, salvagers salvo and grenades? I think people were thrown off by atheon DPS because it was ability based.
I skipped day one cause I was sick and people wanted D1 experience. Was his DPS check as bad as Taniks day 1?
only 6 hrs? those are rookie numbers! we stuck there for 8 and 1/2 hrs. Sadly the hardest challenge to search for randoms (the core of the fireteam was only 3) who won't disconnect after 2 wipes.
I am surprised people where stuck at atheon it only took my team 2-3 tries to get it since we were all using anarchy sniper for normal and then in challenge we use anarchy double slug on challenge
And then Atheon for 6 more
Been looking forward to this one! Time to bust out some popcorn haha
Yo patty! What's up :)
11:26 also, you can find goblins that looked strangly similar to d1 goblins, and they are wielding line rifles
"Teams went through this encounter very quickly"
Meanwhile my team: legit had to go back to orbit to reset because of the amount of enemies
Lol same
Same
Hardest encounter of the raid and it wasnt even an encounter
Stings hearing that and seeing all the other youtubers just blow past this part. My makeshift team was stuck for hours on this part lol
@@Kantoro nah i unsubbed from his ass for not acknowledging the sheer amount if players who had trouble with thay door. Fuck youtubers. We had people who straight up never got past the door and waited till day 2
1:38 "everyone had a role to play, no teammate only killing ads"
Me and my team with 4 people cleaning for 2 listen and shoot the oracles...
That's how our clan does it as well
I feel like people don't realize that in the Atheon encounter when your doing damage you can use the relic's super it does pretty good damage and if you use it three time it gets rid of the relic letting you not worry about the timer.
@Mr Pickles Yeah it’s not great, in an ideal world the relic holder should be the warlock with the well, so everyone else can utilise damage supers like thundercrash, nova bomb etc
@Mr Pickles Relic super does not do all that much damage. Dropping the relic to do damage for sure does a lot more.
Relic super was doing 25k dmg or a bit more. Better drop it off and stick two ANALchy to the boss butt for more dos XD
“Vault of glass, the raid I coined as what saved destiny”
Now do it again.
Was Destiny really dying?
@@fleepdeep1706 nah, quite the opposite actually. Just wanted to make a joke.
@@gw840 *understandable have a great day*
@@fleepdeep1706 Destiny 1, yeah; Destiny 2, no.
@@djroomba6511 There are (still and probably always will be) people who are like "haha Destiny's shit, bungie bad, no story, dead game, haha"
There have been people like that since 2014, but that won't change how wrong they are.
Day one was hard but like DSC, it was so good! I have yet to get BittePearl shaded and this is so good. I hope Bungie brings back older raids from D1 to D2! Hell, I couldn't do Day One VoG and DSC. Nostalgia is always a good thing. Revisiting something after years. Here is the hope that Bungie keeps this up.
How about bungie bring back crotas end will you be happy
@@Divinity223 yeah bc I never got to play d1 in its glory days bc of a money struggle so I’d like to see how the first game was😃👍
I'm here hoping they bring back old D2 raids...
@@thelastgreyjedi8956 ONLY leviathan or scourge
@@Divinity223 they didn't bring back atheons epilogue. And if they don't bring back necrochasm if and when they bring back crotas end, it will 100% be the worst raid in the history of destiny. That gun made the raid for me, and nothing has even come close to the amount of fun i had with it.
55:47 that was then, now its just really good. probably in its most powerful state since pre-nerf D1 version.
IS HAPPENING, IS HAPPENING!
Yeaaaaa
I would have laughed so hard if "dysfunctional destiny mob" was one of the top teams lmao
Ohh you are taking about the team that zanny in it?
@@fatebringerinfected799 yep I know about them, Really funny group
@@fatebringerinfected799 yes indeed
The Zan Clan
I am “The Average Zanny Enjoyer”
Got my first clear 2 days ago, and got vex. The 6 stack I was playing with were extremely helpful and even helped me get the shader for VOG. Starting to fall in love with this game again.
Knowing our team got through Templar in less than 10 shots is very comforting. Knowing we were keeping up pace with the world's best teams... Even more so.
Gatekeepers and atheon were something else though for our team. One of these days... I'm getting that day 1 Emblem.
one of my favorite D1 raids, I love how they updated the raid. I run a few times a week past my 3 loot completions for the title triumphs and just for fun.
at the oracles i got so tired of dying that i used Heir Apparent.
I’m also very happy they released the hidden mind goblin in the new VoG. Very nostalgic!
Ikr! It was the first thing I checked for! Bummer most new players won’t know what or even where it is :(
@@Greatattack408 What/where is it?
@@iLLWiLLx21 mind goblin these nuts
Of course Reddit was mad.
“We want enemy density!”
“Here you go, randojohnson69420”
“Not that enemy density!! No talk me angy!! >:(“
This dude really needs more subs. Viewers because have you seen how much effort is put into these videos. Not gonna lie I’ve just been binging the raid videos.
They're SO quality. 😏💎 Evan is a treasure.
my team did left/right/mid, only calling out the first two oracles, and only saying close/far if two oracles were in the same "lane". it works very well!
As crazy and dumb I might sound, vault of glass is a free raid. Monetizing the shaders into a bundle is disappointing but kinda expected
My team fell at atheon during day 1 do to time constraints. I'm still proud of our team for making it that far considering It was our first day 1 raid. We even managed to keep up with some of the big teams up until gatekeeper.
Holy shit, an hour long video
Man this is so cool lmao, haven't even watched yet but great job evan!
Our day one team had some special callout for witch side we got ported.
Anakin and Mogli.
I guess they are self explanatory.
My team ended up using an analog clock formation with Atheon being the center and the big glass doorway being 12:00. So our calls ended up being 12, 2, 4,, 6, 8, 10 going around clockwise. I'm just glad everyone on my raid team knew how to read an analog clock. Also we went into this raid completely blind for our day 1 clear and it was a ton of fun. We didn't get to challenge mode cause we beat Atheon at just under 12 hours of raiding and we were super tired.
It’s great the new lights have a chance to experience the magic d1 players all felt back then. It was something you had to be there for, and while they’ve changed a few things and added stuff, the original feeling and tone of this raid is largely preserved it seems.
It was nice not having to spend every second of my free time grinding to be as high of a level as I could to do the raid so I hope Bungie keeps doing this in the future. That being said I still spent every second of free time grinding my level out of habit :)
In my last team
-auto rifle on oracle
-lap around Mars before leaving
-hugging suplicants
-can’t see detain debuff
-flying back into venus
-hammers
All on atheon in a KWTD post
I did this for the first time ever recently, and I got Vex Mythoclast, it was amazing.
I got it on my 2nd time going through it. 😁🙌🏼 Was soooo happy. I had terrible RNG for Deep Stone Crypt, so I really appreciated Bungie making up for it by giving me my Vex. lol
I think my favorite part about vog coming back was being able to run it with people that never got to and leading them through, it felt good to get deja vu of my old raid team and the stupid stuff we did and our first time entering the vault while leading a new group of guardians through that and telling the stories along the way trying old strats and owning with the new ones it felt great to remember the joy from all those years ago.
Hotswapping should not go away simply because it doesn't harm anyone.
It's hard to learn and it pays off because you can 1phase bosses close to you.
I don't understand the people that want it to be gone, literally nothing changes for you. It's accessible to everyone who wants to learn it and gives another skill ceiling for the game.
Maybe I'm just salty because I really love doing it, but I kinda think that the people who want it gone just don't want to learn it themselves and don't want other people to have a possibility to do more damage than them.
Anyways really great video evan!!
Well the problem with hot swapping is the fact that you shouldn’t be ABLE to one phase a boss unless it’s tied to mechanics that cause it. Think about riven, a well designed and challenging encounter for pinnacle loot simplified to a DPS check that isn’t even that challenging. Most people have never even had to fight riven correctly because of this. Sure it makes riven more accessible but raids shouldn’t BE accessible. It should push you out of your comfort zone to get the absolute best loot in the game. Sadly this isn’t the case for most raids. That’s just my opinion though, considering how bungie makes raids nowadays I think hot swapping is fine I guess. I definitely can’t do it because I don’t know how on console but it doesn’t matter because my DPS with anarchy is still insane even while normal swapping shotguns with auto loading.
I always look forward to your hour long videos as I feel you are the best Destiny content creator on TH-cam for deep diving into topics from such an interesting point of view!
Another amazing video. Thanks again for the Interview you did with us. Clearly you take the time to research and create really well put together videos. Looking forward to the next raid video, even if it won't be till 2022. Keep making awesome content. :D
I hope you know that I stumbled upon your vids not too long ago, but you really do a great job of explaining past and current raids as well as important aspects of this game. You’re also funny. I hope more of the community supports you well into your future
Spawn: never gonna
R1: give you
R2 : up
Middle: never gonna
L2: let you
L1: down
So spawn and middle are the same?
@@bobbobson9952 yes but depending on which is which you step closer or farther from the mic wham you call out
Beautiful video. Long videos like this that go in depth with that much detail is what I live for. From the bottom of my heart, thank you Evan.
As a bit of a VoG specialist, I’d like to make a few corrections.
- In the opening encounter, Minotaur spawn locations were increased to 6 from 4 in D1. Also, the plates started pre-built in D1, but not in D2.
- Oracle spawns were never random in D1.
- One additional gorgon was added in the D2 version, and there were minor structural changes made to the labyrinth (and, in fact, the Templar and Atheon rooms too).
- Gorgon AI were changed such that they “hear” certain sounds that they didn’t in D1, and also completely ignore sparrows (which used to be very loud to them).
- This video neglected to mention the cleansing properties of the relic in both Templar and Gatekeeper, which are present in D1 but completely absent in D2.
- Mars is past, Venus is future.
- The *actual* difference in Atheon damage is that Time’s Vengeance no longer buffs weapon damage exclusively. This means that in D2, supers and grenades are more viable as a damage option, whereas in D1 they were mostly a waste of time.
- The relic holder could always assist with damage. It was never a function of the relic timer; it was just that the relic was better used as a shield due to the lack of Well in D1.
- Gatekeeper duo is still possible, and has already been done post-patch.
Danny the editor is awesome, especially for turning this around so quickly!
my callouts for atheon were as simple as:
Subway = far left
KFC = far middle
Burger king = far right
Pizza hut = close left
Taco Bell = close middle
McDonalds = close right
Gonna try this out later today I have high hopes
I was so excited for you to make this video, you always make these videos feel so alive and you just put so much effort into these videos. Keep up the great work Evan and hope you have a great day. My callouts for day one were NONE, didn’t try to do it.
only the real g’s know left/back left, middle/back middle, right/back right while only calling out the first two oracles is the best way for atheon
Objectively correct
Numbers are so good tho
@@buckythespaceranger5650 no
@@popo9256 yes
@Po Po Yes
Bro your videos it's obvious you put a ton of thought and work into. Thanks for the incredible Destiny content
Day 1 was nice. My team sadly struggled with communication so we only got normal mode done. Sadly didn't get an emblem for doing contest normal mode.
Same
It'll be on your raid report at least
Bro I started tearing up when we launched into the raid. The memories and friends I made whilst patrolling Venus and stepping into the raid for the first time came flooding and couldn’t stop it. 🥺🥺
Bro I just realize that the oracles noises are roughly in the tune of savathun's theme... just missing one note.
Hmm
Which note?
@@matthewmcgee1434 the last one
@@KonK4tsu ok, so I napped out the pitches. I just noticed that the top 4 pitches can be arranged to sound EXACTLY like the second part of the song. I’ll try to rearrange the bottom three a little.
@@KonK4tsu it looks like that the bottom three tones have no connection to it. However, if the top 4 included one more higher note, it could create the whole song. The shadow keep title screen theme is Savathūn’s song, as you know. It is in a slightly different key than the oracle’s one. However, the second part is a key higher compared to the first part.
Great video! My team was pleasantly surprised when we saw that we were moving on to Atheon and some teams were still figuring out Templar. Gave us a slight confidence boost as a team that is able to figure out encounters and coordinate together.
Best oracle callouts: “i think its left” “the red one” “the other red one” “ding” “i died to a supplicant” and “close right”
Hey that’s me XD! Congrats on the video!
49:09 “SAY HI TO EVAN” in chat lmao
The work you put into your work is amazing. You deserve so many more subscribers. Well done
Best callout:
Just
Shoot
A
War-
Mind
Cell
thanks so much for putting my clip at the end evan!
Call outs:
Left - Middle - Right
Back/front
Let’s not complicate this, people.
My team does
Throne: Left Mid Right
And Mars Mid Venus
What about; 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6?
It’s crazy to me how impactful D1 VoG was, and to find out that it was a last minute add to Destiny to match the Vex vanilla “Story”.
After doing both normal and challenge vog day one i kept hearing oracles and sometimes still do
P o n g
It’s like the vex version of Savathūn’s song, except this is related to ptsd, rather than witchcraft.
Go into the last wish raid, the part before the first techeun fight.there is a chance that the sound of an oracle can be heard
@@Velkhana_The_Myth thats been patched for a long time now
@@couldntcare nah, it isn't a bug, it's a feature, did last wish yesterday abd heard it
to be honest with you. Your Raid Videos got me hooked to day 1 raid racing. DSC was my first d1 and i managed to finish it and i also finished VOG d1.
Thank you for your Videos you absolute LEGEND
Back left - “never”
Back mid - “gonna”
Back right - “give”
Front left - “you”
Front mid - “up”
Front right - “blank”
*sigh* damn it
Ahh these evan videos are something else. For a fan of this game it's soothing to watch. And the quality of these vids assure that we'll come back here in the future when destiny will be long gone.
"Oh boy I cant wait to be productive today"
-Evan Uploads
"Welp We had a good run"
Why would literally anyone dislike these videos? They are so good.
36:03 i respect that halo reference
thank you
Best callouts NA here.
1 was over the Throne\spawn when you portal in, then numbered 2-6 going clockwise.
Red was Mars, Green was Venus.
We established this after 1-2 wipes and it made the encounter 100x easier.
Holy shit this is great
My clans call outs are far and close Mars and venus, and then throne and mid. We use the portal identities, and it's super easy. Fun fact, when the portal opens in venus and Mars, the side corresponds to venus or Mars. So opening Mars portal, inside of Mars the open portal actually is Mars. Same with venus.
HOUR LONG VIDEO YUP
Currently crying because I’m rewatching this 6 months later and there’s still no COD zombies videos ;( I would love videos about each map like you have for each raid that would be so awesome as a big cod zombies fan
man even when I'm taking an extended break from D2 i love watching evan videos. maximum comfy
I called this our D1 "Home Coming". This brought us alot of good memories
I can't tell you how many times I watched your raid videos man. They are soooo good to watch ! Keep up the good work evan my guy
It took me 7 long years and its return in D2 for me to finally get Mythoclast. You can't even understand how much I was freaking out and practically in tears once it finally dropped for my Titan, who has been right alongside my Hunter since Y1 of D1. It felt like the completion of a character arc years in the making, and I wouldn't have it any other way. VoG and the Mythoclast is what kept me hooked on Destiny, and while I missed Taken King and Rise of Iron back in their glory days, I can safely say D2 has had me in for the long run, and to finally have the one thing in D1 that eluded me for so long just feels... So damn good. I'm glad VoG came back and I love how it returned, even if I have one tiny issue in Gatekeeper encounter, but damn if this raid isn't just as magical as the first time I stepped into that Vault
these videos are so well done. always enjoy watching them!
The atmosphere you manage to capture in these type of videos is astonishing
30:30 I realized that the prison the spawns and traps one player is a really go mechanic because of how everybody uses wells and titan bubbles, but this forces it to be weaker and riskier.
12 hours of work and come home with this treasured piece... did day one with an LFG and couldn't beat templar 12 hours later, but it was fun
I did my first d2 run a few days ago. Got 3 Corrective Measure machine guns, 1 Found Verdict shotgun, and 2 Fatebringer hand cannons. No armor, and no Mythoclast. Still glad I even got to do one though.
As someone who worked on games for a little bit, my guess on Atheon's health pool storage bug is that it's there to stop the encounter from breaking when you try to start it, as start cues can be really easy to mess up, or glitch past, making patching that sort of thing quickly an issue, explaining why they came back to it as well.
TLDR: Not a professional, my guess is it was a bandaid fix to stop worlds first teams from getting screwed over.
Evan never fails to capture the history of these raids, and your videos are always very awesome, thank you!!
Regarding the shaders for silver, I honestly think it is ok. Bitterpearl is chatterwhite 2.0 and these are extra aesthetic things you can get for some cash. Theres not many items in the store that is sold solely for silver or at least other items can come in the bright dust rotations
I'm really gonna miss seeing the secret chest at the Gorgons in the back, damn you Bungo!
If it means anything. I attempted an LFG for this raid race, we got to atheon day one, but never could clear the sponge that is Atheon. The reason I decided is because of your videos.
That precious 60 fps cutscene is uncapped lots of my friends hit 144 there, I'm totally on board for it
Atheon oracles were 1-6,
Close Left - 1
Close Mid - 2
Close Right - 3
Far Left - 4
Far Mid - 5
Far Right - 6
Templar oracles were 1-7 starting from back right and going clockwise. But we stuck 1 person on each Oracles (1 person had 2).
Day 1 we def took a while as I was the only person that had done OG VoG. But now it's pretty easy to do. Our guild ended up using our callout system after my group got our guilds first Atheon kill and I got first Mythoclast.
I'm a console (PS5) Guardian so we made it extremely easy. We used the shoulder buttons on the controller to signify back and front. On Xbox controllers the 1s and 2s would be replaced with B and T respectively. Also on PC I'd use 1-6 for the numpad as well.
Front Left - L1
Front Middle - Front Mid
Front Right - R1
Back Left - L2
Back Middle - Back Mid
Back Right - R2
Back in D1 we used L1, L2, L3, Middle, R1, R2, and R3 for the Oracles during the Templar Suite (Confluxes through Templar boss fight) as well.
Pit and Stairs, and then left right centre. Nowadays we callout the position of the first oracle using the pit / stairs left right system, and then callout clockwise or counterclockwise depending on how they appeared. People inside anchor to the first callout then start shooting the rest in the direction called. It seems to work for us rather well.
I know its a bit late, but I just found your channel last week.
Anyway my call outs day 1 were:
Back left: "3"
Back mid: "6"
Back right: "9"
Front left: "damn"
Front mid: "you"
Front right: "fine"
Great video. The amount of work you put into it shows thank you for this!
19:30 so true, i was ad clear for day 1, i would end runs with anywhere from 50-80 ads killed, and the next closest was usually like 15-20. we basically had 3.5 players on dps (because one of them handled oracles and detain). we wound up killing him right as enrage is near popped up.