Part 1: Government in the red
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 เม.ย. 2023
- Chair, President's council of economic advisors David Ndii trajectory on the Government Debt.
"Government is extremely wasteful, there is not a single day that I am not exasperated by nit just how wasteful it is but by now deliberate it is and how unbothered people are." David Ndii - บันเทิง
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Ndii is a good man. He must not quit.
Salaries of politicians must go down. There is no way a CAS earns more money than a US president. No way.
Ok now I know wastage is the new name for corruption 🤔
"Politics has to be PAID for." People are not in politics for philanthropy." says David Ndii. Kenyans you have to PAY for 4 years of campaigns
I have repeatedly listened to this sentiment and for some ordinary Citizen like us; we don't take it easy.
it can be loosely translated to 'we should tighten our belts as we are driven to hell by this government'.
the price for peace, think of the opportunity cost....plus most of that govt expenditure is on wage bill...putting some money in the hands of kenyans so they can feed their families, i doubt that is harmful for the economy, dont think about this politically... but economically... then u would understand Ndii and not focus on nominal figures...Dont be fooled by the interviewer tryin to rile kenyans up, he probably understands but thats his job, to make headlines out of the nominal. Now youll hear, Ndii says govt cant stop being wasteful, without context,,,,makes for good clickbait. Like you, baited.
I wonder what happened to bottoms up
@@samuelkamau1777 what bottom up😅😅😅😅
That's why most if not all developing countries have no policies in place to monitor how campaign money is spent or raised. We shall continue PAYING in the next 20 or more years
Tough times but the President thinks that paying office of the spouse, Kidero and 49 others 100m on salaries every month is not a problem. We can see through this nonsense. Saying that 100m every month is a small amount when it can pay school fees for so many bright and needy students is being greedy.
That’s where am confused and worse of all he appointed people who were not even voted in .😢
Let me echo what my fellow economist is saying. Dr. Ndii is proposing total renovation of our institutional policies, as a lasting solution to the government crisis, as opposed to trying to maximize efficiency in a flawed economic structure altogether. He is looking at quantum change as opposed to peripheral and marginal change.
Maximizing efficiency i.e. reducing wastage in a flawed economic and institutional setting, is like arranging chairs in a sinking titanic. Ndii is proposing fixing the sinking titanic first, then later fine-tuning efficiency afterwards.
This boils down to the debate on efficiency vs effectiveness. You can be efficiently destructive, but effectiveness forces you to look at the bigger picture.
Sheesh Rony.
You enunciate really well brother.
What you are asking for is a small government. You are asking for cuts in the size of government, cut subsidies, cut entitlements, cut salaries, cut parastatals.
Won't happen.
The constitution is a democratic constitution. And democracy demands the sort of patronage we see with bloated government, bloated county governments, bloated salaries etc.
Democracy is in practice just lagalized bribery. And our constitution is one long ode to bribery for votes.
On the other hand, the elite in Kenya are obsessed with making Kenya like some Scandinavian country. They ceaselessly copy and paste European policies and plans without caring for the social economic situation in Kenya.
European countries for example have plenty of natural resources to export, many of them have negligible defense budgets because they rely of the Americans.
Unless Ruto digs our oil and refines it, unless he digs our coal and builds a coal power station, unless he digs our gas, everything Ruto is doing will fail.
@@josephmungai1799 I support this argument, we better take a loan to build our oil refinery plant, consume locally and export surplus...
If not enough import little fuel. This will bring the cost of production low, which will lead to much production, increase exportation of produced goods. As a result shillings will have value, economy be stable etc...
Collected revenue should be meticulously spent.. but Leaders have high expectations and stealing public funds for next Campaigns🤔😄
Many are quick to criticise a government that has done most of what it can to avert a crisis that was certain to come even if Baba were president. David Ndii's counsel to the president is at the heart of navigating a challenging economic situation that, in my view, very few other economists can even understand, let alone solve.
“You don’t run for a political office to make sacrifices “🙆♂️
For the first time in history Government is unable to pay salaries? We have had debts before and someone tell Gachagua that even when Covid-19 struck Uhuru never failed to pay workers. It was the most tough 2yrs but he never never kept workers on salaries.
Spending 4.5m daily on hospitality at statehouse and calming Kenya has no money is an insult
Employing 50CAS each carrying home 800k+ in salary and claiming Kenya is broke is either stupidity or rather lacking leadership skills
Solution
Reduce mps salaries,
Reduce allocation to your offices
Reduce CAS team
Reduce house allowances
Stop making many unnecessary international trips and finally
Stuck to holding Government meetings in Government institutions and finally
Reduce workforce in spouses offices
"There's so much waste in the government"-- repeated so many times from the horse's mouth. Those who've ears, hear!
That is not a reserve of just this govt, it's a reality over the years.
He didn't offer solution on wastage and pilferage. Why not learn from the best: Kagame, Asia tiger, the West?
I like the truthfulness. We can start from there.
The best place to start is when everyone knows the truth
Kenyans are on Thier own sure. Hustlers hear your economist here😅😅😅
I see a man under duress, reality dawning faster than expected, never knew the good economist do stammer. Numbers are showing stars wow😭😭
🤣🤣🤣🤣Apo kwa stammer??
Do you know what duress means?
@@jameskamotho7513 tell us then?
Kudos to the interviewer for asking hard questions. This govt is bearly a year old and already in shambles
Imagine being a head of an organization and this guy from the financial department try to convince you that 30 % of your income is being wasted because that how things are done. FIRED !
You want to fire Ndii for stating the truth 😅. The office of the auditor general has been saying this since Moi was president. And it will continue until the culture of kuomoka, deals and tenders is no longer celebrated in this country.
Àa
It is not news that the Government wastes over 30% of the revenue collected. Are you a stranger in Jerusalem?
Ndii is just a theorist. His intellect is book knowledge. As much as he would like to twist the truth, people are hurting. People don't care how much u talk to cover, people want to see results. Money in their pockets. Period.
A Government of taking Monday to Sunday and doing nothing.
Ndii, you're in a soup my brother and just accept it's not easy to defend this government
Ndii doesn't care. He's not an elected official, and neither is he the accounting officer in a Ministry, Department, or Agency.
Watu wa azimio tulia. Be better.
@@mx1616 it's not about Azimio, even you I know you've nothing right now and you're just crying like any other kenyan.
Can someone tell David when he is coming to the studio he should always remember there is mama mboga, boda boda watching his show and the talk should be as simple as they were in the run up to the elections last year. Do not start saying we are confusing budget and economy
We need a vote if NO confidence based on Ndii's interview.
waihiga mwaura is a top excellent journalist. he is fearless and asks questions that really matter. im so shocked david ndiii is saying all those extra costs the government is burdening the taxpayers to pay for their fleet of cars and benefits is just a drop in the ocean and they are small numbers and we shouldnt mind it is crazy. i cant believe these are the people running our country
But it's the truth. Just look at the numbers. Veeeery easy!
Ndii is not running the country. Also, 1B in a 3T budget is similar to a shilling when you have 3 thousand shillings. Small change.
@@kijana2030"Take care of the penny and the pound will take care of itself", so goes the saying.
This one is a lecturer in a class. He is talking in abstracts and is very removed from the situation in the country and then publicly declaring that nothing can be done about wasted money and corruption.....
If it's the civil service that is involved in this endemic corruption and it is they whose salaries cannot be paid...may they reap what they sow...
I think this guy wants Ruto to fire him ,he is on the verge of resigning
Cutting off expenditure while increasing the recurrent expenditure... How does it work???
David Ndii is 💯, something has to give, institutional reforms or economy recovery. Our public debt though huge, is still managable . Our problem is "debt servicing", which is eating a lot from our revenue.
And much big corruption from the top
@@wilsonkinyua2154 Get over yourself, corruption has always been with us from 1963-to present
@@adamskimoni4375 Does that lessen its impact in mismanaging economic affairs?
@@georgeodhiambo598 Of course not, but he has been candid about that. Even expressing his frustration with some wastefulness in this regime.
If you have deficit to increase price of product when if the buyers cant buy? Do you go employing more workers and increasing salaries to some? This theories made many countries to fall.
Number never lie....we are drowning...my beautiful Kenya leader in the Frontline acknowledging they are unable to sail our economy back....what a wasted leadership in position.
This guy Ndii appears pretty versed in economics...and for citizen TV kundos for taking such interview devoid of politics..
sasa kundos ni nini🤬
Mr Ndii, are you telling Kenyans - forget it, it's gone, no hope?
David Ndii's low-key, low-toned voice, accompanied with calmness ,is believable.
When the soprano one kicks in, then I become SKEPTICAL and begin to doubt what he is sharing! 👀
Mama weh! Kenya kwisha.
this was the first person to condemn the former president when he said that the government was loosing 2 billion shillings a day. Now again to hear him agree on the same feels like I have been conned honestly this government has to shape up or go home.
Nowadays economists are like lawyers playing with people lives yet they know the reality that government is overspending in unnecessary things like buying car's, employing over 50 CAS yet common people can't get two meals a day 😢
Don't shoot the messenger. You have your elected officials who are supposed to be accountable to you. Put them to task, not a mere advisor who does not implement policies.
@@kijana2030 I think the advisor should be honest with the president . I have not heard Ndi faulting the president on the recent CAS appointment in the mid of the financial meltdown
@abdullahiaden1148 I think he even commended him for the appointments. He said it's cheaper than having another 2007/2008 PEV.
Hii Ni kama Ndege imepotea Kwa radar.
Wastage, Corruption, High debt, bloated civil service and inefficiency in Government will one day bring down Kenya.
I don't think there's a better economist currently in this country. I trust this man 100%. We're in safe hands
no debt based economy is safe. And fractional Reserve Banking is just a house of cards waiting to collapse. So it is irrelevant who the personality is in charge, the system was designed to fail and fail it will.
This man is well informed and honest
He said that politics has to be paid for and we should stop being obsessed with perks and recreation yet a govt thats broke had money for new cars which he terms as an OK necessity : aside from that, it was interesting to learn that numbers dont matter when strategy is applied. Its like learning formulaes and never applying them to the exams. anyways... its oK.
Is this an economic adviser or a political advisor?
I think such people should stay in their offices to avoid irritating hungry Kenyans.
Let him tell us the bitter truth. Kenyans are still not angry enough.
Let people here what is bitter
Yani Dickson uko Kwa CHOO na Bado unataka kuhisi harufu ya perfume!?? 😀😀
But truth
It's awkward that a government in office still complains of what happened in the past.
I mean, if they can't deliver they ought to resign.
We need a government that can deliver.
Do you even inderstand government ?
@@willybillylaw7339 We don't need to do whatever tha means. The thing is, the current politics doesn't make sense.
State officials still blaming the last regime?
No explanation of what public funds are doing?
Truth is, in a democracy such officials ought to resign for failing to meet their mandate.
Are we not a democracy?
....and please when you are done, a sub to this channel would be...Spek kk ta cc uu lar.
It's always good to tell the truth. Governments are not perfect although they aim to be.People would rather be deceived to but that would not change the facts Kwa ground that not all is rosy
This is shocking and beyond belief.. if this is the econic adviser, Kenya is doomed. am shaking with fury.
Then you should be the new economic adviser
Me too
@@wilsondominic8830 be civil. We are taxpayers
It's abhorrence when Kenyans when they don't understand complex matters they turn to simplistic jejune conjecture. David Ndii is telling the matter as it is, but you want to sacrifice him for tribal political correctness
We are doomed with the so called God chosen government..choices have consequences.
Truthful men of uda
We have had these conversations for a long time, unfortunately, I don't know if it's taken just as an interview session and all is forgotten. We never act at all. I wonder those who we call think tanks what they do in the offices.
In Ndii and Kenya kwisha..it's incompetence meeting confusion..mouthing without indulging mind.
For those who don't know Kenyan...
"We cannot destabilize government" means
"We cannot start making enemies with the ones who hold power."
Is this how he advises the government to encourage wastage by the elite while keeping the poor Kenyans more poorer?
With Kenya kwisha only GOD WILL SAVE THIS.
1.Politics has to be paid for.
2.We have a very profligate government.
These two alone erode every other growth economic aspect.
When I heard this man speak....I felt the need to look for a passport immediately. We are cooked my people.
The stone-faced, proud and confident economist Dr. Ndii, is now mellowed, confused and wobbling as he tries to defend a defenseless administration. The reknown economist is lost for words in his effort to explain the economic meltdown.
Kenya was a promising economy. Right now S. Sudan is economically stable than us. Let's continue building government first spouses and ladies offices.
What did I hear Ndii say 🤔🤔. Eti we are paying for elections. Then doubling the expenditure means nothing to him. I feel like removing clothes and crying out loud in the streets just for Kenyans.
Absolute numbers is what counts to shareholders as we were called.
i think he is saying that the kenya kwanza bought their positions and now they have to take back their money 1st before going forward. which means we are screwed!!!!
8:19 that's all he needed to say about why we're spending money we can't afford. We should make this the slogan next time politicians run for office "Politics has to be paid for..." and add "So how much do you expect to eat in office?"
The big mistake this government did was to go after those owns Kenya at an early stage and they're now facing the repurcations of their actions.
Precisely. You can't fight/ cut the hand that feeds you without feeling the pitch.
What did Kenyan expect?. With all those debts, sooner or later the lenders will come asking and you have to pay your debts. Most of those debts during Uhuru's era had 5 years grace period. The grace period is over and we need to start paying the debts.
That's why Ruto is going around the world asking us to invest back home... 😢😢
Didn't Ruto know that there were public debts to be repaid? Didn't he state publicly that he had a solution on how debt would be repaid as he tackled bottom up economy? Stop being an apologist for the regime. Judge it on its own election pledges. Kenyans must wake up and demand that leaders say what they will do, and do what they have said. Stop glorifying lies and conmanship
My question is do we even have a stable gov't? The way ksh is depreciating is worrying
So the president knowing so well that he’s taken an outfit waist-deep in debt,he goes ahead and forms a government way bloated than that of his predecessor???
Government to stop the haemorrhage of money by civil servants by Seminars in hotels.
The same are now crying
I think D Ndii is very honest. I don't like him but he is saying the truth
There is truth in what you are saying.
Ndii has tried so hard to defend these crooks but he ended up exposing them bitterly.
What are you saying....what is he saying(atwoli)😂😂😂
I'm not sure why commentators are getting their knickers twisted. Ndii has said that the economic transformation that Kenya needs is achieved through policy and sits outside of government I.e. private sector driven.
The issues of wastage are systemic and probably fall outside his purview. In any case, the perpetrators and beneficiaries of this wastage are Kenyans both inside and outside government. So when politicians steal money, then donate the same money at your harambee or buy you a drink, you do not complain. Let us not be hypocrites.
My friend...watch from 13.17...what part don't you understand...don't be narrow minded!
Justification of prime grade cretinism , primitive optics that glorify leakages because we are unable to amend. What a contradiction
@kenobumba8792 I'm not your friend, and I understood everything that Ndii said.
Exactly 💯. I remember Paul Mwangi saying that during the grand coalition government when he was RAOs' adviser, he would get 24k in airtime and no matter how much he called, he only ever spent an average of 2k per month. The rest he would give out to his friends and relatives. So, those close to power enjoy and perhaps don't mind this wastage...
@jameskamotho7513 but friends and family isn't wasting..atleast walimpea naye akasaidia those who didn't have
We should give Ndii for some time.I read some of his papers during the Uhuru govt when he was in the opposition.Fixing an economy takes time,there are no buttons to switch off,the recommendations he puts across surely hold the water,the govt needs time.
How much time is time? Ruto is being held to account on his own election pledges. He presented a manifesto which provides the checklist against which to judge his performance. Things can just be allowed to aimlessly slide along.
Ndii is gonna get the sack .
He is way too honest ....
Nothing but the truth. For telling us the truth
Bwana Ndii is taking us for fools damn it,.
Wakenya munapenda uongo. Mukuamviwa ukweli mnaona nikama nyinyi ni wajinga..Change or Perish
Ndii is well informed waah..
You talk like a fool... informed of what.... you trust lies?
It takes lots of logic and emotional intelligence to under David Ndii. We are a society led by thieves from both political factions. It would be not diffrent if Azimio is in power, "politics have to be paid for."
You must mention azimio to justify the mistake you did august last year
I agree with you be it in public institutions nor private institutions corruption everywhere now tell me how can a nation develop,,,,for instance how much did the former regime stole from poor kenyans,,,,if even covid aid was stolen by wealthy families in kenya now tell me after this administration how much are we going to loose as a nation
@@bonifacekasoka4048 wiokasoka .
You can deal with it, simply but Recognizing the leakage/wastage..., Finding a way around it and dismantle it slowly......
The leakage is in public expenditure, and the people who are incharge for how that money is spent, are the ones benefiting.
This man!
David Ndii is just an Economic Maguire, and the statements he's making are the last Kicks of dying horse.
Economic Mahuire means?!
Wanakenya you are own your own in short😅. They said you don't run for Office to make sacrifices, Mjipange my Frens..🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Ohhh so the president and Do were advised to keep saying things are tough from last regime... Which they keep doing to defend their failures
Kenya is collapsing seriously
David Ndii speaking the truth.
Dr Ndii is truthful, in Kenya plunder is official and as the auditor general said, after plunder kindly reinvest in Kenya
And people are asking why the president is loosing weight 😁
🤣🤣🤣
I also wonder after all those stomach money waste
Losing weight because of his sins above all lies
It's true we have shareholders with big percentage shares.
Kizungu Mingi was a person, you are on your own.
Hapo Kwa,Ati "You don't run for political Sit to make Sacrifices & Political Debt MUST BE PAID!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂 UHURU,Raila & Matiang'i told Us But we never heard them, They're really Suffering in Ichaweri Bondo & Nyamira 😂😂😂😂😂me I'm READY to suffer together na wale Wa "Serikali Ni Yetu"
Dr. Ndii, "politics have to be paid for" does this explain why there is looting of public resources everywhere? Finally at who's expense are you been paid WANJIKU??
Corruption, Graft and Government spending.
If this is Dealt with, 50% of the problems are gone
Azimio said they were going to effort on eliminating corruption being the major problem this current regime said corruption wasn't a priority to the country they said their priority was to shift focus from trickle down to bottom up economic model. Subsidies production and not consumption is now crystal clear Azimio had better brains than what we opted for.
Weee mwambie Ruto awachwne ma ambitions sake that have taken the country to be broke for him to meet the promises he made like hustlers funds....America wapi hizo pesa na haziko kwa budget...?????
We are not fools!!!!!!kizungu miiiingi for nothing!!!!!!
Pros: Budget deficit is on the decline, Cons: As Kenyans, we get used to loosing 2 billion daily ( it's a Government norm)...
There was a time I was involved in government (though I was working in the private sector), and I started getting hefty allowances to attend meetings. Let me tell you Maina, I looked forward to attending those meetings just for the trips and allowances. This is what is meant by wastage.
There was even an employee of a regulatory authority who was either in workshops, training, benchmarking tours, seminars, etc for 9 months in a calendar year. For the remaining 3 months, 2 were spent on leave. Meaning the employee was in the office for 1 month only. The same authority also bought iPhone 14s as Christmas presents for the board in the middle of a drought.
@@kijana2030sad indeed how 3rd world countries forget where they're coming and going..Kenya is being washed down the trenches 😢😢😢😢
NO, no Sussy, the method that the government is using to collect the tax is very wrong and insufficient.
If this is the chief economic advisor to this government, then KK is doomed.
Shocking!
Kenyans are on Thier own.
The man is being real and honest.Kenya is where USA was when Obama came into office in 2008.Recession period.
Just say you don't understand anything😅
He's brilliant and truthful
@@ahmedkulowabdi821 you must be so dull
The truth of how our government has always been. Its a systemic problem. Not Kenya Kwanza problem. No quick wins.
It’s true gavas are wasteful even in Germany,the stalled projects are just huge.Millions of €s
If all Economists in Kenya put their heads together ....
Nikiweka tu bibilia chini 😂😂😂😂😂
Take every penny wasted to service our debts.let Ruto take his men to accountability of every cent.saying govts are wasteful should never be heard again.let them stop that wastefulness if they are true leaders indeed
In short, the government is operating using institutions that are facing systemic and policy issues, with little attention to wastage of public funds, circumstances in terms of destabilization of the global market structures and shocks on the global financial markets and secondly, the deliberate increase in political non-economic developmental space that translates into huge unaccounted spending, burdening the taxpayers. In short, the country has fallen into the "accepted level of corruption" trap since much of the government spending cannot be accounted for but is deemed necessary since there lacks strong and stable institutional policies to bring accountability. Things like "politics has to be paid for" is what balloons the budget with deficits and lower revenues!!
My President Dr. William Ruto is working so hard to improve the lives of Kenyans and to better Kenya, with his wisdom and great advisors like David Ndii, i believe they will succeed in getting kenya out of the shit hole the handshake brothers put. Patience Kenyans, good times are ahead
Ruto is a bright man but has no team to help....along he won't make it....we are drowning....the government is planning to scrub off education subsidiaries...some institutions have received projected fee structure ksh 31k to 70k....if this happen...that will mark the end of this government...no parent will take that hike in education...public hospitals are crushing...wee! Thing will get tougher
The same helpless ndii is saying the govt is overspending and the auditor general is not well equiped, and that the automation of the procurement has failed, so basically there is no coming out of any hole
Ruto's election pledges had clearly stated objectives complete with periodic timelines. That's what he is being held on to account. Leaders must respect and abide by their word. If he didn't know the nature of the task ahead of him, then he is the wrong man for the job.
This one should be fired
Imagine hiring a chief financial advisor in your organization and they tell you that wastage cannot be reduced.
In Zambia population is going down while land is increasing. I need popcorn 🍿
Pewa
David Ndii said they borrow Ksh 25 billion every Thursday. Where do they take this money?
To buy loyality
When listening to this, I can say Kenya is doomed!
ukweli ilisulubisha Yesu.
Dr. David Ndii doesn't know his limits. He is asking to be fired. You will be lucky to survive another year.
What is this man saying yet he is right in the heart of govt??
What are they doing with corruption?
Nothing. Ndii is on record that they did not run on an anticorruption platform.
@@kijana2030 Exactly. Most people did not register that comment by Ndii. There is one thing you can't take away from Ndii. He is very honest.