Fr. Murr and Mr. Moynihan, if you see this, p.ease p.ease remember we in india exist and are very very confused because we hardly have any representation of traditional catholicism here. We remember the Holy Mass and cathechisis of our youth and long to have our children know it too. Please send us priests. Please pray for india , we are saturated with the novus ordo. No Adoration in many places, sketchy confession, and sermons which are watered down, mostly on domestic issues. Many souls are being lost esp. with the spread of the charismatic movement.
We shouldn't panic about the situation, but rather we should thank God with all our hearts that He's given us the grace to see clearly. The sublime promise of Christ of "non prevalebunt" remains, indeed thd Apostolic hierarchy, the validity of the Holy Mass and the Sacraments, and the purity of the Deposit of Faith endures, and it will until Christ will put to end end human history. That's all that matters. And we must remember we are left in this great trial to suffer the great passion of the Church with great confidence in God, never losing the focus on the perennial teaching of the Church. Sancte Thoma ora pro nobis
There are traditional Latin masses on TH-cam. Do a search and see what you like. Perhaps you could play one of those each Sunday and use an online traditional catechism to teach your children. We have the same problem where I live in the US. No traditional priests or masses anywhere in my area. Prayers for you and all of India, indeed, for the Church, that this situation turn around. Don't lose hope. God will move mountains when He decides. Pray the rosary daily with your children.
Indian Catholic here. Agree - we had a TLM at my local Jesuit parish in Mumbai. It was stopped due to all Masses being suspended during lockdown in March 2020. All the parish TLMs in Mumbai are now cancelled. The SSPX priests occasionally fly in to offer the TLM but the venue is so far that most people have to travel there the previous night, stay in a B&B and attend Mass. The charismatic movement is very harmful and it is very widespread and powerful here. I attend the NO as no access to the TLM. But on Sundays and First Class Feast days I additionally watch a livestreamed TLM. In the meantime, I am praying novenas for the return to Tradition and restoration of the TLM. Anyone who reads this, have pity on us in India and pray for us. To paraphrase Our Blessed Mother - we have no wine!
@@daricehenriques1200 Let all viewers remember to include India in their Prayers. Greetings from France. God protect you and preserve your Faith in difficult times.
Fr. Murr, you are a breath of fresh (and joyfilled) air in this Church that is in so much confusion and division. ❤️ I am 67 years old, and have never felt as if the pope despises me…a faithful Catholic in America who loves the Traditional Latin Mass (although I have no opportunity to attend nearby). He does not know my heart…and yet he is always speaking out against “conservative American Catholics”, as if we are the problem. I pray for Pope Francis’ conversion everyday…I believe that is a spiritual work of mercy and love for his soul.
I agree with the last letter that Cardinal Vigano wrote wholeheartedly. I can see the lack of fruits from what he is calling the conciliar church. More change is coming to the Roman rite via the synods, abominable changes.. Mayan rite ect.. Those that are traditional and follow and believe all the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church prior to all the new changes... and follow the council of Trent. We are being basically kicked out... but I would rather be kicked out of a conciliar church in error and be aligned with holy martyrs.
I am glad to hear about the virtual retreat. I’m unable to afford to go in person at this time in my life, but am grateful for the opportunity to still participate for a nominal fee. Thank you! I live in the Washington DC area, and am grateful for what Abp Vigano did before I came here to help purge some of the evil. I do respect him and pray for him.
Each week (and newly released videos) I return because for me, both of you gentleman, have become as familiar and as comfortable as family members; very comforting. In addition, and hardly secondary, I return to listen, to learn, and to laugh, too. Thank you both.
What is happening is that the faith is not being taught in the schools for one. No more conservative nuns teaching the faith but young women who don’t practice the faith. The priests play nice and don’t confront errors in the church. They are silent.
A young, Catholic writer Julia Meloni (author of The St. Gallen Mafia) asked yesterday (on 2 July on "X"): "Which Catholic personality or news outlet has most influenced your understanding of the crisis in the Church?" Fr. Murr and Dr. Moynihan were oft mentioned (by Ms. Meloni's followers) in responses on Meloni's query thread. I did not respond on "X" to Ms. Meloni's query. After some thought (through today), I now venture to answer the question and to share my thoughts here. In addition to Fr. Murr and Dr. Moynihan (one of the few Catholic-topic shows I try to always watch as the 'Urbi et Orbi' shows are broadcast), I add three additional-names from my own personal perspective, as to having influence upon my perspectives in discerning truth of the "times we are in" - continuing to unfold. THEY ARE: Fulton Sheen (ordained 1919, died 1979 and whose media-shows instigated - through my childhood listening to him - my 1978 conversion to the Church as very young woman; Malachi Martin (ordained 1954, died 1999) who I heard on radio in the 1980s-1990s; and (currently) Pope Francis (ordained 1969) whose actions and writings are widely available for review in the digital-age we live in. Interestingly, I didn't think of it until I was reflecting on Ms. Meloni's query and picked the three in my mind, coincidently, all three were ordained a priests in the Society of Jesus. So, again, Ms. Meloni's query was: "Which Catholic personality or news outlet has most influenced your understanding of the crisis in the Church?" The "Why" and "How" of their influence: 1st) Fulton Sheen warned it (Church crisis) was on its way through Sheen's books, radio broadcasts and television shows which prepared me to expect 'crisis', 2nd) Malachi Martin exposed the growing crisis via exposing the behind-the-scenes mechanisms rising the Church crisis-tide through his non-fiction and 'faction" (as he called them) books and his radio interviews which helped me understand the "How" of the crisis increasing, and 3rd) Pope F., who has (with a little help from his friends) proved my trust in Sheen & Martin seeing things as they were going to be and were in fact, becoming /metamorphizing into - Pope F. has been busy spearheading a crisis-zeitgeist (for all to experience) in real time through: a) the laity's experiential-interaction at/with the Church pre and post VII, b) his (Pope F.) interviews with journalists, c) his encyclicals, d) his books (and Forwards to other's books), e) his high-profile Greet & Meets at the Vatican, f) his papal appointees, g) his determination to promote the artwork of a known (at onetime ex-communicated) predator-priest, h) his publicly going-after his most-well-known ordained-critics. i) his ongoing photo-ops with an (allegedly Roman Catholic) U.S. President who blatantly-supports pregnancy-terminations of innocent unborn-humans in order to get into (and remain) in high political-office - (to name a short-list of more than ten years of 'proofs' supporting Sheen & Martin's forewarnings and warnings)
Wow!! Fr. Murr expressed an opinion that was stunning and very possibly EXACTLY what is happening!!! he expressed the opinion that he doesn’t think there’s one group of people orchestrating all this chaos. How brilliant!!! it’s very enlightening that he believes this and I never even considered it until he mentioned it. We as humans want to believe it’s one thing we can point to! Why? Because it’s easier for us intellectually and more importantly spiritually! this is not an easy fight and we have to consider possibilities outside of what is easy and comfortable for us! Btw, the diabolical culture we are all being exposed to has programmed us to believe in the simple and intellectually and spiritually lazy conclusion! The evil that is attacking all Christians depend on us to NOT contemplate, not pray, not meditate and that’s the opposite of what we should be doing! May God bless this holy man!!!! And if I may add that he posed the question ofxwhetger or there may be a connection between the Vatican and the Democrats. Well, my brother was a former Trappist monk who became a brilliant attorney, who worked with several administrations, and I can tell you I am POSITIVE there’s been a connection since the 60s.
I agree: "The evil that is attacking all Christians depend on us to NOT contemplate, not pray, not meditate and that’s the opposite of what we should be doing!" Your post made me think, perhaps fasting (if possible health-wise) is important, too?
I also agree: "I can tell you I am POSITIVE there’s been a connection since the 60s." -- In my historical research, I spend time in the online "C I A" archives, fairly regularly. I have read declassified documents (they are scanned from originals, and many still remain somewhat-redacted) that indicate exactly-this: that behind the scenes contacts between Vatican and U.S.A. Executive office (via agents of US Presidents and state department officials, etc.) was happening since post-WWII up through early 70s (at least) ..... Of course, we must remember the Vatican has diplomats, as being internationally considered a sovereign "State". Also, not forgetting, the brother of American Cardinal Avery Robert Dulles SJ, was Allen Welsh Dulles - the first civilian U.S. Director of Central Intelligence (DCI), and its longest serving director to date.
I read a quote from Albert Pike, a prominent member of Freemasons who said, and I’m paraphrasing, “for Freemasons order means chaos…” I was surprised by Fr. Murr’s statement that he doesn’t see any dark forces behind this crisis. Has he changed his mind?
I agree, except it's not just Democrats. There are Republican globalists too. We call them RINOs. These different factions, including some monarchs, politicians in many countries, and big money families all play a role in this bc their goals are the same - global tyranny. Freemasonry infiltrated the Church hierarchy decades ago.
@@pinknickelvidz my background knowledge of this premise is a little less formal and reliable than yours. My brother was a former Trappist monk who became a civil rights attorney, linguist archaeologist and unmatched legal mind that the Clinton administration and Johnson and Kennedy depended on. what he told me through the years is frighteningly accurate and unfortunately their plan seems to be working I hope not. He never married, and he and I were extremely close and I can tell you without hesitation I never did figure out which side he was on because he was a devout Catholic, and seemed to be teamed with the wrong side of that coin. I will never know. He was at once a brilliant Catholic theologian, and on the other hand, a staunch socialist.
I would like to encourage your listeners to participate in the daily televised EWTN Mass. I am a cradle Catholic, brought up on the Tridentine Mass. I left for 20+ yrs. after Vatican 2 and reverted back. I do believe that the EWTN MFVA priests consistently combine the Latin and Novus Ordo Mass in a way that Vatican 2 had hoped it would be. Their daily Mass incorporates an exquisitely heavenly choir. 🎶🎹 🎶 Their Masses are out of this world in beauty and sacredness.
Masses from the FSSP, ICKSP, SSPX & others are also streamed on YT regularly. Just search their names & you'll find a variety of options; at least for now.
Wish there was a way to find them. Also pray that the orders dedicated to preserving Sacred Tradition/ Heritage would expand their missions. Right now over 50% of those offering the Tridentine Rite are in diocesan parishes, which means if it's [unjustly] banned, only those blessed to be near one of the chapels or a monestary which invites the public to their masses would have access.
The 60s was a time for wunderlust for thing new AND EXCITING. tHOSE OF US FRESH OUT HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE GOT INFECTED. aS TIME WENT ON AAND WE MATURED WE SAW REALITY AD REALITY THAT WE BOUGHT INTO A MIRAAGE. Now we have the end results fulfilled in the bergolian crowd.
Another great show, gentlemen. Bravo. How I wish I could go on retreat with Fr. Murr, but alas, I lack the requisite microchip drivers license for ID to fly (no plans on getting it either) and also lack the jibbety jab which still creates some travel restrictions. 😢 otherwise, I'd be signed up in a hot minute. I would also need to arrange a chicken-sitter for my flocks.😅🐔🐔🐔🐔🐓
I feel you! What a blessing it would be to attend Mass with Fr & talk with him. I'm greatful Robert & Fr will find a way to make his talks & hopefully his Mass too available. Very generous!
I can not purge my mind of what I know. Bella Dodd revealed that see placed in the priesthood many men who were communists and they rose up through the ranks to be bishops and cardinals. They voted in that disgraceful council. We have been betrayed and the fruits of this betrayal is self-evident for those with eyes to see. Those who wilfully turn away condemn themselves. Vigano has publicly laid it out for bishops to act and if they do not act God will act.
I have said for years that lack of catechesis .When my children were young I could not find a catechism any where. An ex nun told me they were forbidden to use the catechism.I believe there was a movement after V2,not part of the council but perpetrated by certain members of the clergy to stop the teaching of the catechism so that a time would come when the majority of the church were uncatechised and therefor would swallow anything that came out of Rome!We are now at that time I am appalled at the ignorance of the Faith by so many.My own childrn were sent to the best Catholic Schools in England,and left with a very weak knowledge of the Faith, my grand children's knowledge is even worse.I am not near them to help instruct them .There are folk teaching catechism who teach what they have learnt from "Happy Clappy" churches.Not the Catholic Faith LET US PRAY
VATICAN AND US INTELLIGENCE: In my historical research, I spend time in the online "C I A" archives, fairly regularly. I have read declassified documents (they are scanned from originals, and many still remain somewhat-redacted) that indicate exactly-this: that behind the scenes contacts between Vatican and U.S.A. Executive office (via agents of US Presidents and state department officials, etc.) was happening since post-WWII up through early 70s (at least) ..... Of course, we must remember the Vatican has diplomats, as being internationally considered a sovereign "State". Also, not forgetting, the brother of American Cardinal Avery Robert Dulles SJ, was one Allen Welsh Dulles - (an attorney) and the first civilian U.S. Director of Central Intelligence (DCI), and its longest serving director to date.
Allen Welsh Dulles orchestrated and directed the assassination of JFK!! He also gave false testimony to the commission investigating the assassination. What a traitor he was!!!
I heard that southern Italian dishes are tomato & vegetable based on account of enemies that continually invaded the land, whereas northern Italian dishes are cream based where cattle is raised and there was more stability.
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The 3 generations, as Fr Murr mentioned, are not chatechized properly because the priests were not acting as the Good Shepard. They were not teaching the dogmas of faith to their parishioners. I parishioners trusted that the priests were doing their jobs, but alas by that time the evil one had already hijacked and infilterated the Church of Our Lord.
The other problem was that they took away the nuns who were teaching catechesis and replaced with laity. That should have NEVER happened. Certainly, the priests either failed to oversee what was being taught or they were complicit. I was taught NOTHING useful in the 70s. It took me 40 years later to investigate things myself to try to understand what happened to the Mass and Church of my early childhood.
It's by Howard Harper-Barnes. The piece is called "Life In Pieces." He's a contemporary, relatively young composer. You can find it on TH-cam and probably Spotify.
There is only one version of Catholicism, which being the only one true religion, It cannot be subdivided into a traditional and a modernist group as it were one of those false man-made religions. Indeed being divinely revealed Truth, Catholicism is always the same from Saint Paul down to Saint Padre Pio, and then there is wordly ideologies influencing those with Apostolic mandate, from humanism during the renaissance to liberalism after the french revolution.
Fix the Novus Ordo mass, like Pope John XXlll wanted to. No clown masses, some Latin the mass, also communion rails, no altar girls, not as manyEucharist Ministers . Fix the Novus Ordo. Teach the priests traditions of the Church. But above all don’t leave the church just because it’s not the TLM!!!♥️🙏🏻😇
It's not just a matter of Latin, it's the theocentrism and the entire focus on the Sacrifice of Calvary (as opposed to the downplaying of it in favor of the community) that characterizes the Mass of the ages that is directly descendant from the Apostles.
It started too broke to fix. It needs to be 🗑 Zero eucharist ministers, no placing the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ in ANY unanointed hands.
For those who may not understand or have questions about why the faithful wish to retain the Tridentine Rite, here's some history you may find interesting! This section deals with language, unity & other aspects. There will be another section dealing with what was lost in the transition from the TR & to the NO. Much was lost, important, meaningful prayers were removed completely or distorted to shift focus away from what the Mass actually is (see below). a good resource is a book; "Iota Unum", which details these changes & how they dramatically changed the central focus of the Mass, thus causing many downstream aberrations regarding the Mass, beliefs [Lex Orandi Lex Credendi] & the Church's mission in the world. The Tridentine Rite was codified during the CO Trent. However, it was in use & organically developed for centuries before that. CO Trent did not create the Tridentine Rite, it simply codified the Rite which was in use for many centuries. Alternate languages were only used for the past 40-50 years, out of over 1.6 millennia or more of the Mass' existence. It was only codified during the Council of Trent due to prot innovations/disfigurement, but was in use going back to the Apostolic age & was passed on to the Church Fathers & so on according to evidence. [See: The Didache, The Roman Canon]. You'd be surprised how much Latin you already know since it's the root for many modern languages, plus it's still used in medical, scientific, technical, legal language & people are able to deal. The Missal also has Latin in one column and a translation on the other so its easy to follow along if you wish. It's also prudent to remember what the Mass actually is; it is the unbloddy re-presentation of Christ's sacrifice & ultimate, eternal triumph being offered by the priest on our behalf. It is the manner through which sanctifying grace flows into the world via worship of the One Triune God in the Church Christ founded. It is not a communal gathering or a remembrance of TL Supper or a congregational service, meeting, or symbolic sharing of bread and wine. The sections ment for the people are easy to learn & the gospel is read in Latin & vernacular. There is also an entire treasury of Sacred Music which was composed by some of the most holy Saints, monks, priests, mystics & masterful composers. Latin is the sacred language of the RCC. There were 3 languages which hung above Christ's head on the cross; Latin, Greek, Hebrew. This has immense spiritual & historical significance. Jerusalem & the surrounding areas Christ traveled to were occupied by Hebrews, Romans & Greeks during that time in history & He drew a variety of followers; so certainly would've known how to communicate in these languages. The use of Latin positively PROMOTES UNITY since anywhere anyone would travel, whether locally, across states/provinces or other countries across the world; one could walk into a RCC & know exactly what was going on despite differences in language, ethnicity, location. If you study Catholic history, one feature which frequently appears is that during & after trans-national operations, meetings etc, although soldiers & relief operations, diplomats of different nations were unable to communicate effectively with eachother due to language barriers, including differences in dialects; that the one place they were able to unite & fully understand eachother was during the Catholic Mass.... Sadly, this amazing, unifying aspect is gone now. The adversaries of the Church especially hated & resented this unique unifying aspect that held The Mystical Body of Christ together unlike any other; so they embarked on a mission to destroy it. But, as Christ emphasizes in John 15:18; “If the world hate you, know ye, that it hath hated me before you. If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.” We can apply this today in many ways, but also to the concept of the unifying Mass. Just because the world wishes to impose what it feels is the current "norm" or trend which is constantly & ever changing, we have something else, something stable that can help us weather those storms; Christ, the pillars of His Church, the Depositum Fidei & the Holy Mass. What was True & Beautiful two millennia ago, is still True & Beautiful today. In addition, the meaning & definition of the words do not change over time as with English or other modern languages. This ensures the teachings handed down, the theology, remains free from error & novel interpretation. It's important to note that the Tridentine Rite also contains some Greek, as in the Kyrie Eleison & some Hebrew such as, Hosanna. Also keep in mind that there are over 25 Catholic Churches, each with their own Rite. For example; the Byzantine CC uses the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom sung in ecclesiastical Greek & some Latin. The Councils & Holy Sees ensured that these Rites were never to be abrogated & that all Priests through the ages were granted faculties to offer the Tridentine Rite; in perpetuity, under pain of great punishment. [See: Quo Primum, Summorum Pontificum] You'd be surprised how quickly you'd catch on to Latin, as our modern languages are based on it. It's still used in medical, scientific, legal & technical language as well, so again after a few times & a little patience people catch on quickly... Especially since the Missal has side by side translations & explanations which make it easy to follow along if you wish. Everything, from the priest's Vestments, the order in which he puts them on & the prayers that go along, to the prayers, gestures & movements he makes approaching & across the altar, the items upon the altar, their arrangement, color etc is deeply meaningful & rooted in Sacred Scripture & 2000 years+ of Sacred Apostolic Tradition. The daily missal, as well as other resources are available for free online & offer detailed descriptions, history & meanings, and guides which aid one in following along. The beauty, truth, and humility, within is something quite special! The Mass, along with the Liturgical Calendar full of feast days honouring the life of Christ, Blessed Mother & the Holy Family, the Saints, including so many rich devotions & traditions most fully expresses & passes on the Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi & Depositum Fidei of the CC. For centuries, families looked forward to passing on this unique Spiritual Heritage with great joy. It united them with the central focus of our faith in Christ, His teachings to the Apostles, the Saints, martyrs and all those which came before. This is the Mass of The Ages, the Mass that many reading this post inherited & grew up with, our parents, grandparents, their grandparents & gg-parents before them and so on attended, served & offered. This is the Mass which our Great Saints attended, offered, served, and gave their lives in defense of; such as Mexico's Christeros, France's Vendeé, Ireland's þersecution, Rus, Pol, Germany, Italy"s þersecution, revolts & conflicts throughout history and many others, even to this day. This is what we sinners hold on to during storms of uncertainty; Christ's teachings, His sorrowful Passion, His ultimate, eternal triumph upon the Cross & resurrection. The Sacraments, sacramentals & devotions we've been gifted. Sanctifying grace, the mystery of faith contained within Holy Eucharist, the forgiveness of sins which our priests mediate during confession. Our extended family of intercessors: His Holy Family, Blessed Mother's Immaculate Heart, The Communion of Saints & Angles. With all that said, Catholics who simply wish to worship as they were taught, as their fathers & their fathers before that & so on. Catholics who value the passing on of their Spiritual Heritage should be able to do so without fear of persecution or insult. [see Quo Primum; Summorum Pontificum; Pascendi Dominici Gregis; The Ottaviani Intervention; Writings of AB Lefebvre] The limiting, subsequent suppression & upcoming possible total ban is unjust, uncharitable, irrational, scandalous, dishonourable, exposes a serious lack of pastoral understanding, and is simply cruel; especially for those who will have to live through yet another disruption in Sacred Tradition/ Heritage & possibly more destruction of our Churches, so many of which were built, decorated & maintained by generations of families... ...Likewise, I also would never insult the Rites offered by any other CC's or expect them to abandon their Spiritual Heritage or change it to "satisfy" the whims of the world. In fact, I've attended several, each was a wonderful, beautiful and humbling experience, and I look forward to hopefully attending all of them... That is, if they don't suddenly cease to exist. Hope that could shed some light on the Tridentine Rite & why Catholics wish to preserve it. 👉 PS: Our faithful Catholic Excorcists report that the adversaries HATE Latin because it IS the sacred language of the RCC. I'll take the word of the Exorcists.👍 +JMJ+ 🌹 St. Athanasius, Ambrose, Peter, Paul & Francis; Ora Pro Nobis + OL Of Mount Carmel; Ora Pro Nobis +
Their "Liturgical Experiment" has fundamentally changed what/how the Church has always taught & believed. Bugnini (a FM), a group of prots & "elderbros" rewrote the ancient, organically developed Mass of The Ages into something fundamentally different, the Sacraments themselves, the Rites of Ordination & destroyed countless churches. Thus severing the opportunity for Catholics to worship as their fathers, grandparents, and the Saints have & to pass down the Lex Orandi Lex Credendi as they were taught. They fostered the false idea that the Church didn't exist before 1960-1970 AD, or that there was something wrong with it up until the advent of what is now referred to as "The Conciliar Church". They walk all over Quo Primum which protected the Tridentine Rite upon pain of great punishment, for all priests of all ages, in perpetuity, Summorum Pontificum (which shouldn't have been needed) & all of the previous Church Councils. ..... Quote From Annibale Bugnini.... "We MUST strip from our Catholic prayers and from the Catholic liturgy everything which can be the shadow of a stumbling block for our separated brethren that is for the Protestants.” ~ Annibale Bugnini: Sacrosanctum Concilium, On The Sacred Liturgy, 1963 L’Osservatore Romano, March 19, 1965. .......... What holds more weight, Christ Himself, Sacred Scripture, His Apostles & the two millennia of Sacred Scripture & Sacred Apostolic Tradition... or the hijacked VaticanII, now "the church of synodality" & solely the last 40-60 years? 2000+ years vs 40-60 years. Byzantine Catholics & the other 25+ CC's & Rites... The Borg is coming for you next & the only option is to assimilate...or be dissolved. Everyone is welcomed under the Borg's Big Tent.... except Catholics. 😞
@@Vexx_Line_ Not when he attacks the Pope that's not magisterial "As we read in another place, the person who abandons the teaching of the Roman pontiff cannot be within the church" -Lateran V
I can say you have not listened to his podcasts. We worship Triune God through Jesus who is the bridge between God and man. We do not worship the Pope. Pope, as a representative of Christ should point to God. We should be careful when he causes confusion. Confusion does not come from God. Fr.Murr has said we should stay with the church. What is happening now is what happened in the Old Testament when leaders repeatedly strayed away from God. Humans never learn. The same thing is happening now. We need prophets to warn us not to follow leaders blindly.
Fr. Murr and Mr. Moynihan, if you see this, p.ease p.ease remember we in india exist and are very very confused because we hardly have any representation of traditional catholicism here. We remember the Holy Mass and cathechisis of our youth and long to have our children know it too. Please send us priests. Please pray for india , we are saturated with the novus ordo. No Adoration in many places, sketchy confession, and sermons which are watered down, mostly on domestic issues. Many souls are being lost esp. with the spread of the charismatic movement.
We shouldn't panic about the situation, but rather we should thank God with all our hearts that He's given us the grace to see clearly. The sublime promise of Christ of "non prevalebunt" remains, indeed thd Apostolic hierarchy, the validity of the Holy Mass and the Sacraments, and the purity of the Deposit of Faith endures, and it will until Christ will put to end end human history. That's all that matters. And we must remember we are left in this great trial to suffer the great passion of the Church with great confidence in God, never losing the focus on the perennial teaching of the Church.
Sancte Thoma ora pro nobis
There are traditional Latin masses on TH-cam. Do a search and see what you like. Perhaps you could play one of those each Sunday and use an online traditional catechism to teach your children. We have the same problem where I live in the US. No traditional priests or masses anywhere in my area. Prayers for you and all of India, indeed, for the Church, that this situation turn around. Don't lose hope. God will move mountains when He decides. Pray the rosary daily with your children.
Indian Catholic here. Agree - we had a TLM at my local Jesuit parish in Mumbai. It was stopped due to all Masses being suspended during lockdown in March 2020. All the parish TLMs in Mumbai are now cancelled. The SSPX priests occasionally fly in to offer the TLM but the venue is so far that most people have to travel there the previous night, stay in a B&B and attend Mass.
The charismatic movement is very harmful and it is very widespread and powerful here.
I attend the NO as no access to the TLM. But on Sundays and First Class Feast days I additionally watch a livestreamed TLM. In the meantime, I am praying novenas for the return to Tradition and restoration of the TLM.
Anyone who reads this, have pity on us in India and pray for us. To paraphrase Our Blessed Mother - we have no wine!
Australia is not much better!!
@@daricehenriques1200 Let all viewers remember to include India in their Prayers. Greetings from France. God protect you and preserve your Faith in difficult times.
Fr. Murr, you are a breath of fresh (and joyfilled) air in this Church that is in so much confusion and division. ❤️
I am 67 years old, and have never felt as if the pope despises me…a faithful Catholic in America who loves the Traditional Latin Mass (although I have no opportunity to attend nearby). He does not know my heart…and yet he is always speaking out against “conservative American Catholics”, as if we are the problem.
I pray for Pope Francis’ conversion everyday…I believe that is a spiritual work of mercy and love for his soul.
Wonderful discussion - as ever! God bless you both. 🙏💗
I agree with the last letter that Cardinal Vigano wrote wholeheartedly. I can see the lack of fruits from what he is calling the conciliar church. More change is coming to the Roman rite via the synods, abominable changes.. Mayan rite ect.. Those that are traditional and follow and believe all the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church prior to all the new changes... and follow the council of Trent. We are being basically kicked out... but I would rather be kicked out of a conciliar church in error and be aligned with holy martyrs.
AMEN!!
Our former seminary rector said the same thing about the 1945-1964 time frame. It was the best of times.
You both are wonderful.
Love you fine gentlemen! Always informative and helpful and pleasant. May God bless you both abundantly and always - and keep you safe.
I am glad to hear about the virtual retreat. I’m unable to afford to go in person at this time in my life, but am grateful for the opportunity to still participate for a nominal fee. Thank you!
I live in the Washington DC area, and am grateful for what Abp Vigano did before I came here to help purge some of the evil. I do respect him and pray for him.
Each week (and newly released videos) I return because for me, both of you gentleman, have become as familiar and as comfortable as family members; very comforting. In addition, and hardly secondary, I return to listen, to learn, and to laugh, too. Thank you both.
Woke up early, fell back asleep and missed live show. Darn it. Listening now. Like 173, was mine. :) Thank you for all your shows.
What is happening is that the faith is not being taught in the schools for one. No more conservative nuns teaching the faith but young women who don’t practice the faith.
The priests play nice and don’t confront errors in the church. They are silent.
It been going on a LONG time. We are seeing the rotted fruits.
Father Muir is funny! I love Mexican and Italian too.♥️🙏🏻😇
A young, Catholic writer Julia Meloni (author of The St. Gallen Mafia) asked yesterday (on 2 July on "X"): "Which Catholic personality or news outlet has most influenced your understanding of the crisis in the Church?" Fr. Murr and Dr. Moynihan were oft mentioned (by Ms. Meloni's followers) in responses on Meloni's query thread. I did not respond on "X" to Ms. Meloni's query. After some thought (through today), I now venture to answer the question and to share my thoughts here.
In addition to Fr. Murr and Dr. Moynihan (one of the few Catholic-topic shows I try to always watch as the 'Urbi et Orbi' shows are broadcast), I add three additional-names from my own personal perspective, as to having influence upon my perspectives in discerning truth of the "times we are in" - continuing to unfold.
THEY ARE: Fulton Sheen (ordained 1919, died 1979 and whose media-shows instigated - through my childhood listening to him - my 1978 conversion to the Church as very young woman; Malachi Martin (ordained 1954, died 1999) who I heard on radio in the 1980s-1990s; and (currently) Pope Francis (ordained 1969) whose actions and writings are widely available for review in the digital-age we live in. Interestingly, I didn't think of it until I was reflecting on Ms. Meloni's query and picked the three in my mind, coincidently, all three were ordained a priests in the Society of Jesus.
So, again, Ms. Meloni's query was: "Which Catholic personality or news outlet has most influenced your understanding of the crisis in the Church?" The "Why" and "How" of their influence:
1st) Fulton Sheen warned it (Church crisis) was on its way through Sheen's books, radio broadcasts and television shows which prepared me to expect 'crisis',
2nd) Malachi Martin exposed the growing crisis via exposing the behind-the-scenes mechanisms rising the Church crisis-tide through his non-fiction and 'faction" (as he called them) books and his radio interviews which helped me understand the "How" of the crisis increasing, and
3rd) Pope F., who has (with a little help from his friends) proved my trust in Sheen & Martin seeing things as they were going to be and were in fact, becoming /metamorphizing into - Pope F. has been busy spearheading a crisis-zeitgeist (for all to experience) in real time through:
a) the laity's experiential-interaction at/with the Church pre and post VII,
b) his (Pope F.) interviews with journalists,
c) his encyclicals,
d) his books (and Forwards to other's books),
e) his high-profile Greet & Meets at the Vatican,
f) his papal appointees,
g) his determination to promote the artwork of a known (at onetime ex-communicated) predator-priest,
h) his publicly going-after his most-well-known ordained-critics.
i) his ongoing photo-ops with an (allegedly Roman Catholic) U.S. President who blatantly-supports pregnancy-terminations of innocent unborn-humans in order to get into (and remain) in high political-office
- (to name a short-list of more than ten years of 'proofs' supporting Sheen & Martin's forewarnings and warnings)
Wow!! Fr. Murr expressed an opinion that was stunning and very possibly EXACTLY what is happening!!! he expressed the opinion that he doesn’t think there’s one group of people orchestrating all this chaos. How brilliant!!! it’s very enlightening that he believes this and I never even considered it until he mentioned it. We as humans want to believe it’s one thing we can point to! Why? Because it’s easier for us intellectually and more importantly spiritually! this is not an easy fight and we have to consider possibilities outside of what is easy and comfortable for us! Btw, the diabolical culture we are all being exposed to has programmed us to believe in the simple and intellectually and spiritually lazy conclusion! The evil that is attacking all Christians depend on us to NOT contemplate, not pray, not meditate and that’s the opposite of what we should be doing! May God bless this holy man!!!! And if I may add that he posed the question ofxwhetger or there may be a connection between the Vatican and the Democrats. Well, my brother was a former Trappist monk who became a brilliant attorney, who worked with several administrations, and I can tell you I am POSITIVE there’s been a connection since the 60s.
I agree: "The evil that is attacking all Christians depend on us to NOT contemplate, not pray, not meditate and that’s the opposite of what we should be doing!" Your post made me think, perhaps fasting (if possible health-wise) is important, too?
I also agree: "I can tell you I am POSITIVE there’s been a connection since the 60s." -- In my historical research, I spend time in the online "C I A" archives, fairly regularly. I have read declassified documents (they are scanned from originals, and many still remain somewhat-redacted) that indicate exactly-this: that behind the scenes contacts between Vatican and U.S.A. Executive office (via agents of US Presidents and state department officials, etc.) was happening since post-WWII up through early 70s (at least) ..... Of course, we must remember the Vatican has diplomats, as being internationally considered a sovereign "State". Also, not forgetting, the brother of American Cardinal Avery Robert Dulles SJ, was Allen Welsh Dulles - the first civilian U.S. Director of Central Intelligence (DCI), and its longest serving director to date.
I read a quote from Albert Pike, a prominent member of Freemasons who said, and I’m paraphrasing, “for Freemasons order means chaos…”
I was surprised by Fr. Murr’s statement that he doesn’t see any dark forces behind this crisis. Has he changed his mind?
I agree, except it's not just Democrats. There are Republican globalists too. We call them RINOs. These different factions, including some monarchs, politicians in many countries, and big money families all play a role in this bc their goals are the same - global tyranny. Freemasonry infiltrated the Church hierarchy decades ago.
@@pinknickelvidz my background knowledge of this premise is a little less formal and reliable than yours. My brother was a former Trappist monk who became a civil rights attorney, linguist archaeologist and unmatched legal mind that the Clinton administration and Johnson and Kennedy depended on. what he told me through the years is frighteningly accurate and unfortunately their plan seems to be working I hope not. He never married, and he and I were extremely close and I can tell you without hesitation I never did figure out which side he was on because he was a devout Catholic, and seemed to be teamed with the wrong side of that coin. I will never know. He was at once a brilliant Catholic theologian, and on the other hand, a staunch socialist.
Latin Mass is evangelization for all of us
I would like to encourage your listeners to participate in the daily televised EWTN Mass. I am a cradle Catholic, brought up on the Tridentine Mass. I left for 20+ yrs. after Vatican 2 and reverted back. I do believe that the EWTN MFVA priests consistently combine the Latin and Novus Ordo Mass in a way that Vatican 2 had hoped it would be. Their daily Mass incorporates an exquisitely heavenly choir. 🎶🎹 🎶 Their Masses are out of this world in beauty and sacredness.
Thank you for sharing.
Masses from the FSSP, ICKSP, SSPX & others are also streamed on YT regularly. Just search their names & you'll find a variety of options; at least for now.
Hello from Alberta, Canada 🍁
This is why we need 6o stand by Vigano❤️🙏
By Vigano
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I would be thrilled if you could livestream fathers retreats, I’m disabled and can’t go anywhere but it would give me great joy to share in this
Great suggestion. Me, too, due to age.
Me too! This is one instance we can say Deo Gratias for the internet!
Thank you both! ❤
Old saying: "No pain, no gain" goes even for the Church. Have Faith.
Should we find priests that will celebrate the extraordinary form and invite them into our homes to celebrate the mass if necessary?
I absolutely would! Now all I have to do is find a traditional priest. None in my area that I can tell. 😢
Wish there was a way to find them. Also pray that the orders dedicated to preserving Sacred Tradition/ Heritage would expand their missions. Right now over 50% of those offering the Tridentine Rite are in diocesan parishes, which means if it's [unjustly] banned, only those blessed to be near one of the chapels or a monestary which invites the public to their masses would have access.
God Bless you Both. I see you both as my father. My dad passed away years ago and he Loved the Blessed Mother.
There is a beautiful prayer for Reparation for the five blasphemies against Our Blessed Mother.
The 60s was a time for wunderlust for thing new AND EXCITING. tHOSE OF US FRESH OUT HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE GOT INFECTED. aS TIME WENT ON AAND WE MATURED WE SAW REALITY AD REALITY THAT WE BOUGHT INTO A MIRAAGE. Now we have the end results fulfilled in the bergolian crowd.
So sorry to have missed the livestream... Looking forward to the show. Thank you!
Another great show, gentlemen. Bravo. How I wish I could go on retreat with Fr. Murr, but alas, I lack the requisite microchip drivers license for ID to fly (no plans on getting it either) and also lack the jibbety jab which still creates some travel restrictions. 😢 otherwise, I'd be signed up in a hot minute. I would also need to arrange a chicken-sitter for my flocks.😅🐔🐔🐔🐔🐓
I feel you! What a blessing it would be to attend Mass with Fr & talk with him. I'm greatful Robert & Fr will find a way to make his talks & hopefully his Mass too available. Very generous!
I’m in Oregon
Haga una entrevista con el vidiente ( Pedro Régis) del la aparición actual del Maria en Anguera, en Brazil!
Artificial intelligence is manipulation of human freedom
So is the so called ,"the war on drugs."
They've created sheer tyranny based on this lie.
I can not purge my mind of what I know. Bella Dodd revealed that see placed in the priesthood many men who were communists and they rose up through the ranks to be bishops and cardinals. They voted in that disgraceful council. We have been betrayed and the fruits of this betrayal is self-evident for those with eyes to see. Those who wilfully turn away condemn themselves. Vigano has publicly laid it out for bishops to act and if they do not act God will act.
I have said for years that lack of catechesis .When my children were young I could not find a catechism any where. An ex nun told me they were forbidden to use the catechism.I believe there was a movement after V2,not part of the council but perpetrated by certain members of the clergy to stop the teaching of the catechism so that a time would come when the majority of the church were uncatechised and therefor would swallow anything that came out of Rome!We are now at that time I am appalled at the ignorance of the Faith by so many.My own childrn were sent to the best Catholic Schools in England,and left with a very weak knowledge of the Faith, my grand children's knowledge is even worse.I am not near them to help instruct them .There are folk teaching catechism who teach what they have learnt from "Happy Clappy" churches.Not the Catholic Faith LET US PRAY
VATICAN AND US INTELLIGENCE: In my historical research, I spend time in the online "C I A" archives, fairly regularly. I have read declassified documents (they are scanned from originals, and many still remain somewhat-redacted) that indicate exactly-this: that behind the scenes contacts between Vatican and U.S.A. Executive office (via agents of US Presidents and state department officials, etc.) was happening since post-WWII up through early 70s (at least) ..... Of course, we must remember the Vatican has diplomats, as being internationally considered a sovereign "State". Also, not forgetting, the brother of American Cardinal Avery Robert Dulles SJ, was one Allen Welsh Dulles - (an attorney) and the first civilian U.S. Director of Central Intelligence (DCI), and its longest serving director to date.
Allen Welsh Dulles orchestrated and directed the assassination of JFK!! He also gave false testimony to the commission investigating the assassination. What a traitor he was!!!
Hmmm. Well. 🙏🙏🙏
I am one who cant afford the trip. I have never flown on a plane, too, in all my life.
I heard that southern Italian dishes are tomato & vegetable based on account of enemies that continually invaded the land, whereas northern Italian dishes are cream based where cattle is raised and there was more stability.
Wow, do you think B16's resignation had to do with the TLM?
My father used to say but it might be the pilot's time to go. Why should I go with him?
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The 3 generations, as Fr Murr mentioned, are not chatechized properly because the priests were not acting as the Good Shepard. They were not teaching the dogmas of faith to their parishioners. I parishioners trusted that the priests were doing their jobs, but alas by that time the evil one had already hijacked and infilterated the Church of Our Lord.
The other problem was that they took away the nuns who were teaching catechesis and replaced with laity. That should have NEVER happened. Certainly, the priests either failed to oversee what was being taught or they were complicit. I was taught NOTHING useful in the 70s. It took me 40 years later to investigate things myself to try to understand what happened to the Mass and Church of my early childhood.
The sculpture is disgusting. Taylor Marshall spoke about it. Everything is beyond disgusting.
Dr. Tzy,or Marshall addressed this sacriligious ststue on his podcast today.
It’s disgusting the way they are treating Our Blessed Mother within the Church! Piercing her heart even more. Silence from the hierarchy!😢😢
What is your theme music? I know it’s not pertinent to the topic but music endures and the Church endures. So , please tell me the composer?
It's by Howard Harper-Barnes. The piece is called "Life In Pieces." He's a contemporary, relatively young composer. You can find it on TH-cam and probably Spotify.
@@lorih9182 many thanks! I love it!
This is for father Muir. I just wanted to let you know I gave your book a one on the murder in the 33rd degree 85 star rating on Amazon.
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Do you have any pilgrimages scheduled with Father Murr in 2025?
I would suggest looking for an alternative to the medicine you are taking. There could be non- harmful ways to address the problem.
There is only one version of Catholicism, which being the only one true religion, It cannot be subdivided into a traditional and a modernist group as it were one of those false man-made religions. Indeed being divinely revealed Truth, Catholicism is always the same from Saint Paul down to Saint Padre Pio, and then there is wordly ideologies influencing those with Apostolic mandate, from humanism during the renaissance to liberalism after the french revolution.
Jesus called st Peter, satan, when st peter tryed to discaurage the redemption.and who else could have done such a thing
Your Pilgrimages are no more expensive than Trafalgar or any other travel agency.
Fix the Novus Ordo mass, like Pope John XXlll wanted to. No clown masses, some Latin the mass, also communion rails, no altar girls, not as manyEucharist Ministers . Fix the Novus Ordo. Teach the priests traditions of the Church. But above all don’t leave the church just because it’s not the TLM!!!♥️🙏🏻😇
Thank you for sharing.
It's not just a matter of Latin, it's the theocentrism and the entire focus on the Sacrifice of Calvary (as opposed to the downplaying of it in favor of the community) that characterizes the Mass of the ages that is directly descendant from the Apostles.
It started too broke to fix. It needs to be 🗑
Zero eucharist ministers, no placing the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ in ANY unanointed hands.
For those who may not understand or have questions about why the faithful wish to retain the Tridentine Rite, here's some history you may find interesting!
This section deals with language, unity & other aspects. There will be another section dealing with what was lost in the transition from the TR & to the NO. Much was lost, important, meaningful prayers were removed completely or distorted to shift focus away from what the Mass actually is (see below).
a good resource is a book; "Iota Unum", which details these changes & how they dramatically changed the central focus of the Mass, thus causing many downstream aberrations regarding the Mass, beliefs [Lex Orandi Lex Credendi] & the Church's mission in the world.
The Tridentine Rite was codified during the CO Trent. However, it was in use & organically developed for centuries before that. CO Trent did not create the Tridentine Rite, it simply codified the Rite which was in use for many centuries.
Alternate languages were only used for the past 40-50 years, out of over 1.6 millennia or more of the Mass' existence. It was only codified during the Council of Trent due to prot innovations/disfigurement, but was in use going back to the Apostolic age & was passed on to the Church Fathers & so on according to evidence. [See: The Didache, The Roman Canon].
You'd be surprised how much Latin you already know since it's the root for many modern languages, plus it's still used in medical, scientific, technical, legal language & people are able to deal.
The Missal also has Latin in one column and a translation on the other so its easy to follow along if you wish.
It's also prudent to remember what the Mass actually is; it is the unbloddy re-presentation of Christ's sacrifice & ultimate, eternal triumph being offered by the priest on our behalf. It is the manner through which sanctifying grace flows into the world via worship of the One Triune God in the Church Christ founded.
It is not a communal gathering or a remembrance of TL Supper or a congregational service, meeting, or symbolic sharing of bread and wine.
The sections ment for the people are easy to learn & the gospel is read in Latin & vernacular. There is also an entire treasury of Sacred Music which was composed by some of the most holy Saints, monks, priests, mystics & masterful composers.
Latin is the sacred language of the RCC. There were 3 languages which hung above Christ's head on the cross; Latin, Greek, Hebrew. This has immense spiritual & historical significance.
Jerusalem & the surrounding areas Christ traveled to were occupied by Hebrews, Romans & Greeks during that time in history & He drew a variety of followers; so certainly would've known how to communicate in these languages.
The use of Latin positively PROMOTES UNITY since anywhere anyone would travel, whether locally, across states/provinces or other countries across the world; one could walk into a RCC & know exactly what was going on despite differences in language, ethnicity, location. If you study Catholic history, one feature which frequently appears is that during & after trans-national operations, meetings etc, although soldiers & relief operations, diplomats of different nations were unable to communicate effectively with eachother due to language barriers, including differences in dialects; that the one place they were able to unite & fully understand eachother was during the Catholic Mass.... Sadly, this amazing, unifying aspect is gone now.
The adversaries of the Church especially hated & resented this unique unifying aspect that held The Mystical Body of Christ together unlike any other; so they embarked on a mission to destroy it. But, as Christ emphasizes in John 15:18; “If the world hate you, know ye, that it hath hated me before you. If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.” We can apply this today in many ways, but also to the concept of the unifying Mass. Just because the world wishes to impose what it feels is the current "norm" or trend which is constantly & ever changing, we have something else, something stable that can help us weather those storms; Christ, the pillars of His Church, the Depositum Fidei & the Holy Mass.
What was True & Beautiful two millennia ago, is still True & Beautiful today.
In addition, the meaning & definition of the words do not change over time as with English or other modern languages. This ensures the teachings handed down, the theology, remains free from error & novel interpretation.
It's important to note that the Tridentine Rite also contains some Greek, as in the Kyrie Eleison & some Hebrew such as, Hosanna.
Also keep in mind that there are over 25 Catholic Churches, each with their own Rite. For example; the Byzantine CC uses the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom sung in ecclesiastical Greek & some Latin. The Councils & Holy Sees ensured that these Rites were never to be abrogated & that all Priests through the ages were granted faculties to offer the Tridentine Rite; in perpetuity, under pain of great punishment. [See: Quo Primum, Summorum Pontificum]
You'd be surprised how quickly you'd catch on to Latin, as our modern languages are based on it. It's still used in medical, scientific, legal & technical language as well, so again after a few times & a little patience people catch on quickly... Especially since the Missal has side by side translations & explanations which make it easy to follow along if you wish.
Everything, from the priest's Vestments, the order in which he puts them on & the prayers that go along, to the prayers, gestures & movements he makes approaching & across the altar, the items upon the altar, their arrangement, color etc is deeply meaningful & rooted in Sacred Scripture & 2000 years+ of Sacred Apostolic Tradition.
The daily missal, as well as other resources are available for free online & offer detailed descriptions, history & meanings, and guides which aid one in following along.
The beauty, truth, and humility, within is something quite special! The Mass, along with the Liturgical Calendar full of feast days honouring the life of Christ, Blessed Mother & the Holy Family, the Saints, including so many rich devotions & traditions most fully expresses & passes on the Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi & Depositum Fidei of the CC. For centuries, families looked forward to passing on this unique Spiritual Heritage with great joy. It united them with the central focus of our faith in Christ, His teachings to the Apostles, the Saints, martyrs and all those which came before.
This is the Mass of The Ages, the Mass that many reading this post inherited & grew up with, our parents, grandparents, their grandparents & gg-parents before them and so on attended, served & offered. This is the Mass which our Great Saints attended, offered, served, and gave their lives in defense of; such as Mexico's Christeros, France's Vendeé, Ireland's þersecution, Rus, Pol, Germany, Italy"s þersecution, revolts & conflicts throughout history and many others, even to this day.
This is what we sinners hold on to during storms of uncertainty; Christ's teachings, His sorrowful Passion, His ultimate, eternal triumph upon the Cross & resurrection. The Sacraments, sacramentals & devotions we've been gifted. Sanctifying grace, the mystery of faith contained within Holy Eucharist, the forgiveness of sins which our priests mediate during confession. Our extended family of intercessors: His Holy Family, Blessed Mother's Immaculate Heart, The Communion of Saints & Angles.
With all that said, Catholics who simply wish to worship as they were taught, as their fathers & their fathers before that & so on. Catholics who value the passing on of their Spiritual Heritage should be able to do so without fear of persecution or insult.
[see Quo Primum; Summorum Pontificum; Pascendi Dominici Gregis; The Ottaviani Intervention; Writings of AB Lefebvre]
The limiting, subsequent suppression & upcoming possible total ban is unjust, uncharitable, irrational, scandalous, dishonourable, exposes a serious lack of pastoral understanding, and is simply cruel; especially for those who will have to live through yet another disruption in Sacred Tradition/ Heritage & possibly more destruction of our Churches, so many of which were built, decorated & maintained by generations of families...
...Likewise, I also would never insult the Rites offered by any other CC's or expect them to abandon their Spiritual Heritage or change it to "satisfy" the whims of the world.
In fact, I've attended several, each was a wonderful, beautiful and humbling experience, and I look forward to hopefully attending all of them... That is, if they don't suddenly cease to exist.
Hope that could shed some light on the Tridentine Rite & why Catholics wish to preserve it.
👉 PS: Our faithful Catholic Excorcists report that the adversaries HATE Latin because it IS the sacred language of the RCC. I'll take the word of the Exorcists.👍
+JMJ+ 🌹
St. Athanasius, Ambrose, Peter, Paul & Francis; Ora Pro Nobis +
OL Of Mount Carmel; Ora Pro Nobis +
Their "Liturgical Experiment" has fundamentally changed what/how the Church has always taught & believed.
Bugnini (a FM), a group of prots & "elderbros" rewrote the ancient, organically developed Mass of The Ages into something fundamentally different, the Sacraments themselves, the Rites of Ordination & destroyed countless churches. Thus severing the opportunity for Catholics to worship as their fathers, grandparents, and the Saints have & to pass down the Lex Orandi Lex Credendi as they were taught.
They fostered the false idea that the Church didn't exist before 1960-1970 AD, or that there was something wrong with it up until the advent of what is now referred to as "The Conciliar Church".
They walk all over Quo Primum which protected the Tridentine Rite upon pain of great punishment, for all priests of all ages, in perpetuity, Summorum Pontificum (which shouldn't have been needed) & all of the previous Church Councils.
..... Quote From Annibale Bugnini....
"We MUST strip from our Catholic prayers and from the Catholic liturgy everything which can be the shadow of a stumbling block for our separated brethren that is for the Protestants.”
~ Annibale Bugnini:
Sacrosanctum Concilium, On The Sacred Liturgy, 1963
L’Osservatore Romano, March 19, 1965.
..........
What holds more weight, Christ Himself, Sacred Scripture, His Apostles & the two millennia of Sacred Scripture & Sacred Apostolic Tradition... or the hijacked VaticanII, now "the church of synodality" & solely the last 40-60 years? 2000+ years vs 40-60 years.
Byzantine Catholics & the other 25+ CC's & Rites... The Borg is coming for you next & the only option is to assimilate...or be dissolved. Everyone is welcomed under the Borg's Big Tent.... except Catholics. 😞
And Fr. Charles Murr does not know the Magisterium
And YOU do?!!! Oof the hubris. 😂
@@Vexx_Line_ Not when he attacks the Pope that's not magisterial
"As we read in another place, the person who abandons the teaching of the Roman pontiff cannot be within the church" -Lateran V
I can say you have not listened to his podcasts. We worship Triune God through Jesus who is the bridge between God and man. We do not worship the Pope. Pope, as a representative of Christ should point to God. We should be careful when he causes confusion. Confusion does not come from God. Fr.Murr has said we should stay with the church. What is happening now is what happened in the Old Testament when leaders repeatedly strayed away from God. Humans never learn. The same thing is happening now. We need prophets to warn us not to follow leaders blindly.
@@BeatriceMartis-ve3zp Did you read my above quote. Submit to the Magisterium not to men
And pray for Vigano! He is wrong!
How can he be wrong when he speaks truth?
I pray for Abp Vigano's safety bc he's right, the Curia knows it, and they'd love to shut him up like they did Pell (RIP).