Dude, we're not being "tricked" any more when Tatiana growls or screams into a mic than we are when any random vocalist sings into a mic...if anything, we're being trice *less* than with many vocalists, given the prevalence of autotuning (which Tatiana does *not* use). The clip linked below shows what she sounds like "raw": Tatiana Shmailyuk raw vocals (Jinjer): th-cam.com/video/5fXP_ZMzMyU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=JinjerMetalBand
There are videos of her doing vocals in the studio shot with a cell phone or video camera where she's doing that vocal technique.. There are other people who do the same thing. She's just better at it than most. I did professional sound engineering for over 20 years. I can tell you for certain there is no effect that can do that. If you listen carefully you can tell it's not an effect. For instance if you sing the word "cat" the letter "c" and the letter "t" in "cat" are made with your mouth which doesn't change size and shape depending on the pitch you sing the word at. The only thing about that word which changes with pitch or quality is the letter "a" in "cat" which you produce with your vocal chords. A digital or analog effect on the other hand takes the electronic version of whatever sound you feed it and changes it. The whole thing articulation and all. You will notice you can still hear the "s" and "t" and "k" and "p" and "d" in Tatiana's voice whether she growls, screams or sings cleanly. It's the same no matter what. That's because she is actually making that growl/scream with her vocal tract and singing the articulation the way everyone else does. BTW there is no such thing as a professional microphone with built in effects that anyone would use on stage or in the studio. That isn't how it works. If one exists it's a toy and it wouldn't be able to do that regardless.
Are you kidding me? Tricked? Saw them live. It's real brother. Your explanation would mean every growler/singer, including Courtney from Spiritbox, Butcher Babies, Alissa White, Lena Scissorhands, etc., all have rigged mics. What about Judgment and Punishment One Take Live? She's not pressing any buttons on the mic. Oh yeah, and the earth is flat.
Yeah, saw them live in Nov and was right next to the stage…no pedals…no tricks. Just an absolute phenomenal musical experience. I’m still trying to get back voice back from that show. 🤘🍻
Yes Van, that is really her voice. Granted, they use some effects like reverb to make her voice fuller, but EVERYBODY does that. You can hear her raw, unprocessed voice at the 2:23 mark here th-cam.com/video/U655IytKPnk/w-d-xo.html
Interesting how you suggest Tati is faking, but you don’t mind talking about how good Vlad is at drumming (“like he has three feet”). Both are from skill and talent. Then you mention how she knows most of the crowd wants to “do” her. Oddly enough, you didn’t say those things about Alex Terrible. 🤔
I’d enjoy your reaction to some Lorna Shore. “To the Hellfire” or “Of the Abyss”. Their vocalist, Will, continually blows minds with his screams. He’s also got videos where he’s doing his vocals live in one take. The band is super heavy, but they groove 👌and they’re rumored to have a new song called “Sun Eater” dropping May 13th
Why do you publish a discrediting assumption without proof ? That is #45-style. Saw that on your channel for the first time now, hope I don't hear such thing again, because I like you. Tati is just very good in what she does. She is genuine and I assume benevolently, that she could not live with such a lie.
Yeah that drummer is something else, but the one in this trade that you have to see and listen to is Mario Duplantier from GOJIRA. 'The art of dying' or 'Remembrance' the link live are probably good performances to try, for your channel or just private. Good reaction and thanks.
I got two songs for you from the American woman singer KARYN WHIYE the songs are I'M NOT YOUR SUPER WOMAN, SECRET RENDEZVOUS listen to them and you're gonna love it
@@SuperClarky666 Because he has reacted to Jinjer many times before, and he knows that Tatiana can growl with the best of them. He knew that the comments he made would have us gunning him in the comments.
Again see...Never would have known of this artist if I didn't watch this reaction, thank you Van. If I were an artist I'd be paying the top channels to react to my songs not removing them. HELLO
Yeah...the artists who bust their arses off to make a dollar should pay reaction channels to play their music just so people like you can listen to it once & never download a song or buy an album. That makes sense 🤦🏻♂️
@@wmscott1975 LOL Just saying Reaction videos have some exposure value. Like recently I saw the new Brooke Ligertwood video Burn and I paid for a download and a physical CD
Well, it's usually not artists that block videos, but the label, publisher, etc. In any case, while Jinjer and their label, Napalm, don't pay channels to react (TH-cam does that), they don't block them either. They are cool with reactors. They know that reactors have gained them tons of new fans. Few people buy albums anymore anyway. Everyone is streaming these days, and the bands make very little from that. They make most of their money performing now. It's a new ballgame.
Autotune is for Bad singer.. Tatiana dont Need this.. 😅 🇺🇦 😎 Next Song judgement and punischment one take Vokal Performance!! #stand with Ukraine 🇺🇦 😎 stop Putin!!!!!!!!
Realmente me decepcionaste hermano, pensar que en estos tiempos hace falta un truco para gruñir en el escenario es cosa de necios. En primer lugar no es la unica que lo hace, por lo que las demas cantantes tambien estarian engañando al publico, y eso no es asi, y en segundo lugar porque el publico no es estupido y se daria cuenta. Sinceramente no entiendo como tu, despues de haber hecho tantas reacciones a JINJER, empieces a pensar que es todo un truco. Insisto, me has decepcionado.
Dude, we're not being "tricked" any more when Tatiana growls or screams into a mic than we are when any random vocalist sings into a mic...if anything, we're being trice *less* than with many vocalists, given the prevalence of autotuning (which Tatiana does *not* use). The clip linked below shows what she sounds like "raw":
Tatiana Shmailyuk raw vocals (Jinjer): th-cam.com/video/5fXP_ZMzMyU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=JinjerMetalBand
There are videos of her doing vocals in the studio shot with a cell phone or video camera where she's doing that vocal technique.. There are other people who do the same thing. She's just better at it than most. I did professional sound engineering for over 20 years. I can tell you for certain there is no effect that can do that. If you listen carefully you can tell it's not an effect.
For instance if you sing the word "cat" the letter "c" and the letter "t" in "cat" are made with your mouth which doesn't change size and shape depending on the pitch you sing the word at. The only thing about that word which changes with pitch or quality is the letter "a" in "cat" which you produce with your vocal chords. A digital or analog effect on the other hand takes the electronic version of whatever sound you feed it and changes it. The whole thing articulation and all. You will notice you can still hear the "s" and "t" and "k" and "p" and "d" in Tatiana's voice whether she growls, screams or sings cleanly. It's the same no matter what. That's because she is actually making that growl/scream with her vocal tract and singing the articulation the way everyone else does.
BTW there is no such thing as a professional microphone with built in effects that anyone would use on stage or in the studio. That isn't how it works. If one exists it's a toy and it wouldn't be able to do that regardless.
Nope! No tricks! This is the real deal! I saw them live this past November, and I am convinced that she is really the best growler out there!
Are you kidding me? Tricked? Saw them live. It's real brother. Your explanation would mean every growler/singer, including Courtney from Spiritbox, Butcher Babies, Alissa White, Lena Scissorhands, etc., all have rigged mics. What about Judgment and Punishment One Take Live? She's not pressing any buttons on the mic. Oh yeah, and the earth is flat.
i can do it myself and im no singer, girl been doin it for years id say she has it mastered, this is one of my favorite songs
You should check out her vocal recording sessions... Unbelievable range..
You can watch her scream without a microphone on TH-cam. One video is the Jinjer Micro studio report
Yeah, saw them live in Nov and was right next to the stage…no pedals…no tricks. Just an absolute phenomenal musical experience. I’m still trying to get back voice back from that show. 🤘🍻
check out her live one take of judgement and punishment, it’s just her standing there in the studio.
you're silly. It's real, accept, acknowledge, and appreciate. Good reaction minus the silliness, rofl.
Yes Van, that is really her voice. Granted, they use some effects like reverb to make her voice fuller, but EVERYBODY does that. You can hear her raw, unprocessed voice at the 2:23 mark here
th-cam.com/video/U655IytKPnk/w-d-xo.html
Interesting how you suggest Tati is faking, but you don’t mind talking about how good Vlad is at drumming (“like he has three feet”). Both are from skill and talent. Then you mention how she knows most of the crowd wants to “do” her. Oddly enough, you didn’t say those things about Alex Terrible. 🤔
I’d enjoy your reaction to some Lorna Shore. “To the Hellfire” or “Of the Abyss”. Their vocalist, Will, continually blows minds with his screams. He’s also got videos where he’s doing his vocals live in one take. The band is super heavy, but they groove 👌and they’re rumored to have a new song called “Sun Eater” dropping May 13th
Why do you publish a discrediting assumption without proof ? That is #45-style. Saw that on your channel for the first time now, hope I don't hear such thing again, because I like you. Tati is just very good in what she does. She is genuine and I assume benevolently, that she could not live with such a lie.
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Yeah that drummer is something else, but the one in this trade that you have to see and listen to is Mario Duplantier from GOJIRA. 'The art of dying' or 'Remembrance' the link live are probably good performances to try, for your channel or just private. Good reaction and thanks.
Check out Destroy( LIVE BEASTIARIUM) its a studio recording from 2011
And Waltz
@@tjhorne82 o yea. And cannot forget one of my all time favorites. Scissors
@@davidpalmer287 same. I watched the entire thing. 😄
@@tjhorne82 i have as well. I wish more reactors would check those videos out. It really shows how their sound has transformed over the years.
I got two songs for you from the American woman singer KARYN WHIYE the songs are I'M NOT YOUR SUPER WOMAN, SECRET RENDEZVOUS listen to them and you're gonna love it
I would have thought you would pick up on Tatiana flashing Vlad, but you turned away 🤣
He's trolling us hard guys. :-D
Really why? 🤷♂️
@@SuperClarky666 Because he has reacted to Jinjer many times before, and he knows that Tatiana can growl with the best of them. He knew that the comments he made would have us gunning him in the comments.
Again see...Never would have known of this artist if I didn't watch this reaction, thank you Van. If I were an artist I'd be paying the top channels to react to my songs not removing them. HELLO
Yeah...the artists who bust their arses off to make a dollar should pay reaction channels to play their music just so people like you can listen to it once & never download a song or buy an album. That makes sense 🤦🏻♂️
@@wmscott1975 LOL Just saying Reaction videos have some exposure value.
Like recently I saw the new Brooke Ligertwood video Burn and I paid for a download and a physical CD
Well, it's usually not artists that block videos, but the label, publisher, etc.
In any case, while Jinjer and their label, Napalm, don't pay channels to react (TH-cam does that), they don't block them either. They are cool with reactors. They know that reactors have gained them tons of new fans.
Few people buy albums anymore anyway. Everyone is streaming these days, and the bands make very little from that. They make most of their money performing now. It's a new ballgame.
Autotune is for Bad singer.. Tatiana dont Need this.. 😅 🇺🇦 😎 Next Song judgement and punischment one take Vokal Performance!! #stand with Ukraine 🇺🇦 😎 stop Putin!!!!!!!!
Dream on about tricks from tatiana surprised you came up with that and disappointed 👎
Uh oh, you done messed up. The Tatiana Stans are coming for you.
Realmente me decepcionaste hermano, pensar que en estos tiempos hace falta un truco para gruñir en el escenario es cosa de necios. En primer lugar no es la unica que lo hace, por lo que las demas cantantes tambien estarian engañando al publico, y eso no es asi, y en segundo lugar porque el publico no es estupido y se daria cuenta. Sinceramente no entiendo como tu, despues de haber hecho tantas reacciones a JINJER, empieces a pensar que es todo un truco. Insisto, me has decepcionado.
What the hell am I watching? 🤔
Metal.
You didn’t notice the great musicianship? You should expand your musical acumen to something more complex than Justin Bieber.
@@billbrasky1288 Leave Justin alone! Lol.
The best band around today!!!
Greatness