Watched your video when I was learning to fly back in 2013 and thought I'd never be able to to do the basic orientations at the time. Your flying skills seemed impossible to me when I could'nt even hover. The learning phase was pretty brutal but I pushed thru and can now fly big air sport. Thanks for the inspiration !
It feels good to see my video brought you inspiration to push through! it is a very hard hobby with a lot of drop out glad you punched through it. Thank you for the kind words.
pir·ou·ette | \ ˌpir-ə-ˈwet \ Pyro- is a prefix meaning fire or heat, from the Greek pyr (fire), as in pyromaniac. Pirouette is adopted from the dance move.
Hey bud, great instructional video bud. You are most correct in that you must master your hovering and orientation skills. Bobby Lightning and I spent the entire winter we started flying helis practicing hovering in the warehouse and it was invaluable! Thanks for sharing.
Very good tutorial🤷♂️😮😃😍I think what might have been more helpful is a split screen ie one of what the Helicopter is doing and the other with what you are doing on the remote control
great video thank you. just starting with 450 again after 2 years lay off. im weakest with left facing orientation too! would like maybe a 550 as the bigger machines are more stable. thanks again!
This is a good video, I fly racing quads is it pretty much the same thing as flying a heli? I'd love one but is it really advisable to practice over concrete?
The drift to the left, if already trimmed correctly, is caused by tail rotor induced roll. Because the tail rotor is above CG, it imparts a roll motion opposite to whichever way the tail rotor pushes. If you look closely, even when trimmed properly, even in a stable hover, your bird's fuselage tilts slightly to the right, BUT, it's not drifting, even with the tilt. The prototypes do the same thing if you'll notice, for the exact same reason, that being the tail rotor induced roll. You can't really trim out the tilt, nor should you try. Best thing, trim for the drift and forget the tilt. If it doesn't drift, even tilted, you're fine. Since the prototypes do the same thing, if you're ever inclined to fly scale, it even makes it more of a scale flight. I'm guessing possibly the more modern and sophisticated prototypes may have something that automatically compensates, I don't know. Best thing, when you first pick up, blip the collective slightly to whichever side is appropriate, then center it back, and forget the tilt, correct for the drift. When climbing up out of ground effect, it kind of corrects itself somewhat, more so in forward flight, especially if you have some sort of vertical stabilizer type fin.on the tail, because as forward speed increases, the stab will start to work more and more like the stab on a fixed wing acft, So don't feel bad or worry about the tilt, because the prototypes do the same thing. Watch a bunch of prototype videos here on TH-cam, you'll see what I mean. The old Bell 47s do this quite a bit sometimes. When you're used to this, correcting it will become second nature, like all the other phases of RC heli flight, and you'll be able to compensate without thinking about it. Of coarse, seeing as how you seem to be a very accomplished RC Heli pilot, you probably already know this, so you probably wasn't to,smack me and go "Duh, no shot Sherlock !!" : ) This video shows you visually, and in the beggining he explains this. th-cam.com/video/EfLMr1rnbWQ/w-d-xo.html
Please make a video that shows the stick movements. I just bought a blade 230s v2 and could use the help. I haven't taken it up yet cause I'm training with RF8, WS1000 Dongle, & DXE Controller and crashing all over the simulator.
Great vid. Its a long road ahead for me, complete novice on the sticks. Is it better to start off with a trainer heli with no training aids or would you recommend something like the eachine e119 which I hear basically flies like a drone in the 6g mode?
By the way I have no interest in flying drones just wandering if this is a good starting point, or does it defeat the object? Im wandering if this will get me used to flying 4 channel.
I would start with a simulator like real flight. As far as the heli goes I'd get a 500 size something like SAB so you can get parts easily and affordably remember larger the heli the more stable it will be which will make learning easier.
About 10 years ago I had a T-Rex 450 and could not get passed a tail in hover, out of ground effect. Like, I’d lose it as soon as the tail was no longer pointed at me, I’d panic and set it down hard. I ended up selling it because I didn’t have the time or patience to learn.
You were most likely in gyro mode with not enough tail gain to hold. If you had been in heading lock mode with enough gain yoy would have had a much different outcome. Sorry to hear you quit. Never too late to get back in the game plenty of fb grouos to help new folks. Its a wonderful hobby.
The basics cannot be emphasized enough. Unfortunately, everybody is too eager to "sport" fly like a wannabe airplane. Main thing is one thing at a time. One battery one position. Over/over again. That's how i did it. It's ambitious to do learn all 4x orientations on the same flight. Good job.
That's a big step! With today's flybarless units you will find hoovering very similar if not easier then the SIM. The big difference is when the heli is in front of you and you actully have the presents of those big blades spoiling up and are about to fly essentially a flying lawn mower capable of death. Not to mention the actual cost that your possibly going to lose if you crash and the work of the rebuild. My advice. Get at least a 500 size bigger is more stable. Take baby steps keep the tail facing you easy orientation. And try to find someone local to help you set it up and perform a flight to make sure it flys correctly. It's a huge step when going from the sim to the real thing but the reward is something special. Please feel free to message me for any questions. And remember there are facebook groups that are very helpful out there my favorite is CP helis. Look them up and ask to be added. Then you will have unlimited help. Good luck any questions feel free to look me up!
I bet it is very nerve wracking like you mention. A friend of mine is a 3d heli guy and he mentioned to start with a similar size as you suggested to me. I thought he was pulling my leg haha. Im going to join one of those fb groups for sure. Thanks brotha
This is a Compass Models 6HV V2 using a MicrobeastX and MKS servos You can pick this up or the new V3 at Prostar hobbies. Feel free to ask if you need anymore info! Thanks for watching
***** hello. I am new to flying heli's and l would really like to be able fly one day. My I know you are supposed to start off with mastering the hover however that is where my problems begin. Whenever I try to lift off the hdmi would either sway left or right and it really frustrates me. I have tried to use the cyclic stick to correct this problem while lift off but I would have to do a full input on the stick before the heli would start swaying the opposite way. However, after lift off it would bank way to much to that opposite direction. Is there any wrong with my heli? Also do you think it's a good idea for me to get training gears for my heli when I am learning to fly? Thanks.
Billy DaBaus Forget about mastering the hover. This sport is HARD. You need to master "building" and "programming" correctly. Especially, with FBL and DFC for a first timer. Two alternatives. 1.) Start with an FB(flybarred) helicopter that has a single/rudder gyro. 2.) Start with an RTF nano or minicopter(blade nano, blade 130, align 150). It's fully RTF and programmed. At least, you don't wonder if the setup is wrong or you built it wrong.
Pyro? I'm pretty sure you mean piro, as in pirouette. Not that it's a big deal anyway thank you for your tutorials there helping me a lot I'm getting into CP from from fixed pitch right now and I'm very scared I'm going to crash so I need as much help as I can get I don't have a simulator I should probably invest in a little laptop in a simulator
Your helicopter is drifting to the left because of something called translating tendency. The tail rotor is producing thrust to the left. Some helicopters compensate for it by having the main rotor offset slightly. Here's a video explaining it. th-cam.com/video/Jr_t9JGlPEw/w-d-xo.html
How do you do that, when you have300+ dollars invested, PANIC is the only thing to do when heli does the unexpected, or is for me, it cost more money to repair heli and that just made that 300+ jump to 400+ quickly, So HOW do you NOT PANIC ??
+jbrunson1949 How not to panic. Sim a lot. always stay calm on the stcks, set-up you're heli as best you can so there are no un-expected surprises or UN-nessecary inputs you are making and oh yeah sim a lot!! also remember the more you fly the more comfortable you will become. thanks for watching.
Thanks, these tutorials are hard to find. I would have either hit myself in the face or smashed it into one of those basketball hoop stands within about 5 seconds of takeoff lol. This is a hard skill to master.
Yes! I am using Real Flight now and it is extremly helpful but you need a powerful enough computer to run it check the specs and make sure your pc can handle it. Sorry for the late reply its hard to hit every comment. Thanks for watching.
Yes I believe the ease of flying drones really did take its toll on helis. Helis take skill to build fly and maintain set up of electronics can also be a turn off to helis. We still have a strong community just not what e were approaching in 2009 to 2012 before drones became a household name.
it looks like you ran out of battery power on that landing lol from the looks of it it was a close landing just made it I would say This is a good video for the new flyers like my self it is not easy fyling a 6 ch heli at first I"m coming from a 3 ch heli that was a peace of cake lol but its been a week and half been flying the 6 ch heli its a Blade mcpx and getting better im having trouble with Yaw left and right lol every time I do it goes higher lol just need practice on that its my week spot... happy flying Man
Most pilots will often land in idle-up mode and flip the throttle hold switch (often the left switch) which cuts power to the motor while blades still have enough moment for a good landing with the proper use of collective pitch. Serves a second purpose as well, this will help bring the blades to a stop much faster and you'll already be in safe mode to get your heli off the flying field.
+669Banshee The battery was not dead I hit throttle hold and auto-ed the heli down. I always do this it is a good practice as it bleeds speed and inertia off the disk so if you happen to do a blade scrap you are not under power.
Watched your video when I was learning to fly back in 2013 and thought I'd never be able to to do the basic orientations at the time. Your flying skills seemed impossible to me when I could'nt even hover. The learning phase was pretty brutal but I pushed thru and can now fly big air sport. Thanks for the inspiration !
It feels good to see my video brought you inspiration to push through! it is a very hard hobby with a lot of drop out glad you punched through it. Thank you for the kind words.
it took me several years to do everything you are explaining don't EVER GIVE UP Thanks for the video jjm in Montgomery Alabama Sent
When should I expect to be able to remove my motorcycle helmet...👀
After about a year or so you should be ok. Thank you for watching!
You don't have to thank me for watching. I want to thank you for showing me. I really like your video thank you.
Paul J S.
Thank you! Us beginners appreciate these videos
pir·ou·ette | \ ˌpir-ə-ˈwet \
Pyro- is a prefix meaning fire or heat, from the Greek pyr (fire), as in pyromaniac.
Pirouette is adopted from the dance move.
Hai, nice flight. I am have heli Jczk until now i am can't flight please tell me how you good take off step by step. Thank you
Excellent basic hovering video. Keeps me busy for a while. Safe flight, pal.
I'm getting mine this week. Pretty excited! Thanks for the video.
The blades of yours looking crazy big
I have just started to learn to fly (today was day 3) this will be very helpful. Thank You
just casually flying you know then BOOM!! upside down no big deal.. awesome flying dude
Very informative, I'm just learning the hover, thanks man 🇬🇧
Anytime! Thanks for watching!
Hey bud, great instructional video bud. You are most correct in that you must master your hovering and orientation skills. Bobby Lightning and I spent the entire winter we started flying helis practicing hovering in the warehouse and it was invaluable! Thanks for sharing.
I just got my first Heli and of course, you're a Dave so, count me subscribed!
NIIIIIIIIICE! 😁👍
Good luck on your journey it's highly expensive, frustrating and can ruin relationships but in the end a great time! Welcome aboard Dave!!
you make it look very easy
Very good tutorial🤷♂️😮😃😍I think what might have been more helpful is a split screen ie one of what the Helicopter is doing and the other with what you are doing on the remote control
Excellent short tutorial. Thanks
great video thank you. just starting with 450 again after 2 years lay off. im weakest with left facing orientation too! would like maybe a 550 as the bigger machines are more stable. thanks again!
Very nice Dave! Will help out a lot of beginners for sure!
i personaly think as a n1 tutorial u should show the controls and what they do
th-cam.com/video/dMegy0DEbxE/w-d-xo.html
Yeah
luv the ending of the video...amazing skills
Should you always fly with a constant head speed even if your not doing 3D?
That's my question is left n right side view hard or do u just have to know the stick direction when u get to that pinot?
Thank you thank you thank you. Just switched over from RC aircraft what a difference. Wish me luck.
This is a good video, I fly racing quads is it pretty much the same thing as flying a heli? I'd love one but is it really advisable to practice over concrete?
I'd get a sim and practice on there before grass or concrete. Heli is a different beast then quads.
The drift to the left, if already trimmed correctly, is caused by tail rotor induced roll.
Because the tail rotor is above CG, it imparts a roll motion opposite to whichever way the tail rotor
pushes. If you look closely, even when trimmed properly, even in a stable hover, your bird's fuselage
tilts slightly to the right, BUT, it's not drifting, even with the tilt. The prototypes do the same thing if you'll
notice, for the exact same reason, that being the tail rotor induced roll.
You can't really trim out the tilt, nor should you try. Best thing, trim for the drift and forget the tilt.
If it doesn't drift, even tilted, you're fine. Since the prototypes do the same thing, if you're ever inclined to fly
scale, it even makes it more of a scale flight. I'm guessing possibly the more modern and sophisticated prototypes
may have something that automatically compensates, I don't know.
Best thing, when you first pick up, blip the collective slightly to whichever side is appropriate, then center it back, and forget the tilt,
correct for the drift. When climbing up out of ground effect, it kind of corrects itself somewhat, more so
in forward flight, especially if you have some sort of vertical stabilizer type fin.on the tail, because as forward
speed increases, the stab will start to work more and more like the stab on a fixed wing acft,
So don't feel bad or worry about the tilt, because the prototypes do the same thing.
Watch a bunch of prototype videos here on TH-cam, you'll see what I mean. The old Bell 47s do
this quite a bit sometimes.
When you're used to this, correcting it will become second nature, like all the other phases of RC heli flight,
and you'll be able to compensate without thinking about it.
Of coarse, seeing as how you seem to be a very accomplished RC Heli pilot, you probably already know this, so
you probably wasn't to,smack me and go "Duh, no shot Sherlock !!" : )
This video shows you visually, and in the beggining he explains this.
th-cam.com/video/EfLMr1rnbWQ/w-d-xo.html
Please make a video that shows the stick movements. I just bought a blade 230s v2 and could use the help. I haven't taken it up yet cause I'm training with RF8, WS1000 Dongle, & DXE Controller and crashing all over the simulator.
Atom 500 with stick movements. :)
YOU CAN GET MY RISE Please how we configure the 3D mode IN THE RADIO AND GYRO
I got a rc heli at 5 below and its either on the ceiling or on the ground bc its so laggy
Many thanks it was a great help! Im getting there slowly! its a great hobby for sure! please keep them coming !
Fabulous!!! Very Helpful. !!
will it work for a mini heli? ( a black dragon heli )
Great vid. Its a long road ahead for me, complete novice on the sticks. Is it better to start off with a trainer heli with no training aids or would you recommend something like the eachine e119 which I hear basically flies like a drone in the 6g mode?
By the way I have no interest in flying drones just wandering if this is a good starting point, or does it defeat the object? Im wandering if this will get me used to flying 4 channel.
I would start with a simulator like real flight. As far as the heli goes I'd get a 500 size something like SAB so you can get parts easily and affordably remember larger the heli the more stable it will be which will make learning easier.
@@Thedaveyht3 thanks man.
@@multipreach2674 thanks for watching!
Thanks Man! It really helps! Keep on posting.
The best Toy in the world All the best wishes.. I hope all you're dream,s true .. thank you.. take care keep safe..
I like nose in hovering I think is is one of the easy ones the hard ones r the right and left side facing u
That is a great looking heli
Very helpful. Thank you.
Thanks for the info Dave from a greenhorn!!!!
About 10 years ago I had a T-Rex 450 and could not get passed a tail in hover, out of ground effect. Like, I’d lose it as soon as the tail was no longer pointed at me, I’d panic and set it down hard. I ended up selling it because I didn’t have the time or patience to learn.
You were most likely in gyro mode with not enough tail gain to hold. If you had been in heading lock mode with enough gain yoy would have had a much different outcome. Sorry to hear you quit. Never too late to get back in the game plenty of fb grouos to help new folks. Its a wonderful hobby.
Thank you for sharing👍
maybe noob question but how is this a tutorial if we can't see your hands on the controls...?
BeetjeVreemd my thoughts exactly
When I try to elevate my heli it always goes forward by itself... what´s wrong?. I never get it to elevate like you did
check the trim and also check the center of gravity
Thank you ! for your time and it makes a great difference
good little drill,
Thanks
The basics cannot be emphasized enough. Unfortunately, everybody is too eager to "sport" fly like a wannabe airplane. Main thing is one thing at a time. One battery one position. Over/over again. That's how i did it. It's ambitious to do learn all 4x orientations on the same flight. Good job.
Thanks pal, nice routine to practice on my Phoenix rc :)
pyro out you mean pirouette right!???
Help please I can't get mine off the ground the blades r spinning full speed bit it dosent go up please reply
You scared of the motor sound
I have been flying on the sim for a long time now but never considered a real heli. Is it very simular? I now am considering a real heli.
That's a big step! With today's flybarless units you will find hoovering very similar if not easier then the SIM. The big difference is when the heli is in front of you and you actully have the presents of those big blades spoiling up and are about to fly essentially a flying lawn mower capable of death. Not to mention the actual cost that your possibly going to lose if you crash and the work of the rebuild. My advice. Get at least a 500 size bigger is more stable. Take baby steps keep the tail facing you easy orientation. And try to find someone local to help you set it up and perform a flight to make sure it flys correctly. It's a huge step when going from the sim to the real thing but the reward is something special. Please feel free to message me for any questions. And remember there are facebook groups that are very helpful out there my favorite is CP helis. Look them up and ask to be added. Then you will have unlimited help. Good luck any questions feel free to look me up!
I bet it is very nerve wracking like you mention. A friend of mine is a 3d heli guy and he mentioned to start with a similar size as you suggested to me. I thought he was pulling my leg haha. Im going to join one of those fb groups for sure. Thanks brotha
Thx m8 found it really helful i wish i could support you more
quase arrancou o landskid....
thank you, yes I found this helpful
My heli not going forward what's matter plz tell me.
I bought new
Send it back! Or sort your TX LOL :)
good video
First thing u need a crashing kit on the landing gear
Yeah I would recommend that. Very helpful when you are starting out.
@@Thedaveyht3 but great flying
Nice video man! What kind of heli?
Compass 6HV Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this. Just got my first heli...good thing the blades are plastic!
mine too xD and its my first flightt... I'm so nervous... And GoodJob
yep great looking heli, anyone know what model it is please?
This is a Compass Models 6HV V2 using a MicrobeastX and MKS servos You can pick this up or the new V3 at Prostar hobbies. Feel free to ask if you need anymore info! Thanks for watching
thanks mate
***** hello. I am new to flying heli's and l would really like to be able fly one day. My I know you are supposed to start off with mastering the hover however that is where my problems begin. Whenever I try to lift off the hdmi would either sway left or right and it really frustrates me. I have tried to use the cyclic stick to correct this problem while lift off but I would have to do a
full input on the stick before the heli would start swaying the opposite way. However, after lift off it would bank way to much to that opposite direction. Is there any wrong with my heli? Also do you think it's a good idea for me to get training gears for my heli when I am learning to fly? Thanks.
Billy DaBaus Forget about mastering the hover. This sport is HARD. You need to master "building" and "programming" correctly. Especially, with FBL and DFC for a first timer. Two alternatives. 1.) Start with an FB(flybarred) helicopter that has a single/rudder gyro. 2.) Start with an RTF nano or minicopter(blade nano, blade 130, align 150). It's fully RTF and programmed. At least, you don't wonder if the setup is wrong or you built it wrong.
This helped me
Great explanation and this for very helpful to beginner pilot
what brand is it??????
+andre lamy It is a Compass models 6HV
Thanks a lot!
Pyro? I'm pretty sure you mean piro, as in pirouette. Not that it's a big deal anyway thank you for your tutorials there helping me a lot I'm getting into CP from from fixed pitch right now and I'm very scared I'm going to crash so I need as much help as I can get I don't have a simulator I should probably invest in a little laptop in a simulator
Your helicopter is drifting to the left because of something called translating tendency. The tail rotor is producing thrust to the left. Some helicopters compensate for it by having the main rotor offset slightly. Here's a video explaining it. th-cam.com/video/Jr_t9JGlPEw/w-d-xo.html
How do you do that, when you have300+ dollars invested, PANIC is the only thing to do when heli does the unexpected, or is for me, it cost more money to repair heli and that just made that 300+ jump to 400+ quickly, So HOW do you NOT PANIC ??
+jbrunson1949 How not to panic. Sim a lot. always stay calm on the stcks, set-up you're heli as best you can so there are no un-expected surprises or UN-nessecary inputs you are making and oh yeah sim a lot!! also remember the more you fly the more comfortable you will become. thanks for watching.
Wot about walking the dog I think you know thanks
Your heli rotors look bent to the right
Thanks, these tutorials are hard to find. I would have either hit myself in the face or smashed it into one of those basketball hoop stands within about 5 seconds of takeoff lol. This is a hard skill to master.
I am so glad i can help get a sim such as pheonex sim and just keep practicing one day you will pass t on. If you need any help feel free to pm me.
is the real flight simulator helpful?
Yes! I am using Real Flight now and it is extremly helpful but you need a powerful enough computer to run it check the specs and make sure your pc can handle it. Sorry for the late reply its hard to hit every comment. Thanks for watching.
great video dude....
+Jim Hill Thank you sir.
Did drones killed the RC heli hobby? I don't see as many videos as before.
Yes I believe the ease of flying drones really did take its toll on helis. Helis take skill to build fly and maintain set up of electronics can also be a turn off to helis. We still have a strong community just not what e were approaching in 2009 to 2012 before drones became a household name.
We fly airplanes just bought a trex 600 my son gonna fly that not me I like my fix wing aircraft I am 61 an son is 33. Hope he don't bust it up.
grat like a real helicopter flying
Point*
I crashed it three times in my mind in the first 3 seconds. Even watching someone else do this give me anxiety.
it looks like you ran out of battery power on that landing lol from the looks of it it was a close landing just made it I would say This is a good video for the new flyers like my self it is not easy fyling a 6 ch heli at first I"m coming from a 3 ch heli that was a peace of cake lol but its been a week and half been flying the 6 ch heli its a Blade mcpx and getting better im having trouble with Yaw left and right lol every time I do it goes higher lol just need practice on that its my week spot... happy flying Man
Most pilots will often land in idle-up mode and flip the throttle hold switch (often the left switch) which cuts power to the motor while blades still have enough moment for a good landing with the proper use of collective pitch. Serves a second purpose as well, this will help bring the blades to a stop much faster and you'll already be in safe mode to get your heli off the flying field.
+669Banshee The battery was not dead I hit throttle hold and auto-ed the heli down. I always do this it is a good practice as it bleeds speed and inertia off the disk so if you happen to do a blade scrap you are not under power.
ADDitve
It is realy dangerous for beginer
Thats to high and to much for beginners
Too hard and Complicated
Thanks
Happy to help!