Students protest change to B.C. permanent residency guidelines
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- Hundreds of international students converged on downtown Vancouver on Saturday, protesting the province’s changes to permanent residency standards. B.C.'s update to the provincial nominee program won't come into effect until next year, but as Sohrab Sandhu reports, students say it will impact their chances of becoming a permanent resident.
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From what I understand, these students were attracted to BC province due to the old policies, and applying for provincial nomination directly after graduation was part of that policy. If the government suddenly changes the policy, it shouldn't affect those already enrolled, especially those who started before January 2024 or even earlier. While the new policy should be supported, the government must ensure proper arrangements are made for these STEM master's students already in the program.
No.
No. Canadians who are suffering because of too many temporary residents don't get to postpone their misery, temporary residents can adapt or leave.
Too many racist blaming their sheeeety lives on students
Who would cry foul if the rules were suddenly changed on them
I looked at the old government policy and it was clearly misleading. It led many excellent students into the government's trap. Don't consider their temporary resident status. You can see that this is simply a question of justice. Don't be blinded by hatred and don't blame all the negative things on the Jews like the Nazis did. Canada needs justice today and in the future.
@@DW-op7ly New rules cover ALL races.
Thank you for your timely and objective news about our protest. Please let us clarify the reason why we start a protest. We are well-educated and skilled people. A one-year job offer is not an obstacle for us; however, we are concerned about the credibility of the BC government. They changed a 10-year policy overnight on a website without any consultation with the public. If we remain silent and accept the new policy, who can guarantee the government will not raise the bar again? Many of us quit decent jobs, sold houses, said goodbye to mom, and moved to Canada. We believed the Canadian dream was worth sacrificing everything for. Now we feel betrayed.
Moreover, the timing of this new policy change occurred after new students had accepted their offers and paid deposits. Planning for graduate school typically takes at least two years, so the invisible costs are also heavy. We are the victims of this change.
Seems the buffer period is obviously insufficient
Why would you sell a home if you was a student ? You know full well you was gaining the system to come in through the back door .
The rules are the rules you can’t change them overnight
these foreign students bring 36 billion into the Canadian economy every year
These people aren't even citizens or pr-s, they are foreigners from other countries. Why should it even matter what they think? Lots of foreigners would want Canada to do lots of different things that are detrimental to it and to its citizens, it should not matter what they have to say!
@@ElenaKomlevago back to russia
This protest is not for protesting the new policy. We are requesting for the buffer time.
It’s the Asian Century
Canada is no longer the Golden mountain
Our western economies are based on borrowing on our external Sovereign Debt to prop up the economy
We are broke azzzzzz people who couldn’t replace ourselves
no one signed a contract with them saying that the permanent residency program will not change. They only guaranteed them education in exchange for the money that they paid. That's it. So no one violated any conditions.
@@ElenaKomleva Russia is invading Ukraine. Since we are not Ukrainians, why should we speak out for Ukraine? Because this invasion is wrong! Russia’s evil deeds should be stopped!
@@ElenaKomlevaContracts and risk analysis seem to be unfamiliar concepts to these students.
@@Dathremar If there is a new policy raising the retirement age from 65 to 70 at your 64.99, you'd be willing to work for another five years to be eligible for pension huh?
The new policy represents a positive shift, yet it unfairly disadvantages current STEM students who will graduate shortly after its implementation. Many companies prefer to hire individuals who already possess permanent residency or citizenship. For instance, consider two foreign students with identical skills: one graduates in Fall 2024, and the other in Spring 2025. The one with permanent residency is more likely to secure a job. This disparity is profoundly unfair and frustrating.
@@contribution741poor guy cannot read proper english lols🤣
You can return to your home country and find a job if you have STEM, STEM people can find work anywhere
@@alberthe8879 Canada would not need uneducated people who cannot argue in a civilized manner and suddenly throw impolite words.
Imagine that, you go to somewhere by skytrain. In the middle of the trip, on a bridge, the skytrain stops, the driver comes to you and say "The ticket of our skytrain was too cheap. You should pay extra 10 dollars." What would you think? Could you afford it? Maybe you can. But it is UNFAIR!!!
exactly.
They paid for education, they got the education. Everything else is not up to them. They are not citizens or even permanent residents to demand changes to the immigration policy! Next thing you know a bunch of tourists will gather up and demand something like a permanent residency pathway for tourists! lol
Sorry, false analogy, try again!
Chinese love using weird analogy coz they clearly don't know how law works
@@idontreply2236 In reference to the adjustment of the work visa in Ontario, it is only stipulated that those who enrolled in May this year will not be granted a work visa, and it does not affect those who are already enrolled.
The reality is that this has little to do with the policy itself, but rather the way the government handles the problem. When they find that the original plan cannot be implemented as planned, they forcefully terminate it without regard for those affected. This makes me very anxious.
No one signed a contract with these students guaranteeing that the permanent residency program will not change. They only guaranteed them education in exchange for the money that they paid. That's it. So no one violated any conditions.
@@ElenaKomleva I'm sorry, I just heard that your parent abandoned you because they said they didn't SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH YOU.
@@ElenaKomleva Stop copy and pasting.
I support to protect minor group's interest from gov's power at will, especially those people who no voting rights.
Exactly. No voting rights. No their country. Not their decision.
The new policy may be reasonable, but it’s unfair for the people who have enrolled in the school. Buffering time should be considered for the students
No it's not unfair. No one signed a contract with these students guaranteeing that the permanent residency program will not change. They only guaranteed them education in exchange for the money that they paid. That's it. So no one violated any conditions.
@@ElenaKomleva International Post-Graduate
The International Post-Graduate stream is for recent graduates of an eligible B.C. post-secondary institution with an eligible master's or doctoral degree. PhD candidates at a public B.C. post-secondary institution may also be eligible.
You do not need a job offer from an employer to apply to this stream.
You do not need to register for this stream. If you meet eligibility requirements, you can apply directly to the BC PNP.
Eligibility
To qualify for this stream, you must have obtained eligible graduate-level education from an eligible program of study at a post-secondary institution in B.C. in the last three years.
Eligible education includes:
• Master's degrees in an eligible program in the natural, applied or health sciences disciplines from a B.C. post-secondary institution. Please see the BC PNP IPG Programs of Study in Eligible Fields for more information
• Doctoral degrees in any field of study from a public B.C. post-secondary institution
• PhD students in any field of study who have been admitted to candidacy at a public B.C. post-secondary institution
You must also demonstrate that you have the ability and intent to live, work and economically establish in B.C.
This stream also has the Express Entry BC option.
For complete eligibility criteria for the International Post-Graduate stream, please refer to the Skills Immigration Program Guide.
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@@ElenaKomleva IRCC posted it on their website, this leads people who want to apply PR to get engaged in the school to get a master’s degree. Yes, it’s not a contract, but it is an official policy, and you can’t change it overnight and said to the students we just changed the rules, you are out
@@laterwell u still can get PR. just a bit harder. Immigration is getting harder in most countries. policies are always constantly changing. plan your plan B and get over it.
@@laterwell BC says that the criteria of the new program will be disclosed in Jan 2025. It would mean that student graduating at the end of Spring 2025 term will be the first ones to be exposed to the new rule. So they have more than 1 year. Then, what's wrong?
They got a indian international student to do the reporting😂
Yes. And, he obviously didn't have to take thar English proficiency test!
If I had known about the BCPNP policy changes, I would not have left the United States. I will continue to work in New York City where there are more job opportunities. I came to BC because I knew BCPNP would offer a more stable life balance. And I spend 40,000 to 50,000 Canadian dollars to come here every year, and you suddenly cancel the original agreement conditions. Many of my classmates, like me, gave up their offers from Ivy League universities. Why did they come here? I lived in the United States for 10 years and I gave up all my friends and family to come here. The reason I am leaving the United States is due to the H-1B visa lottery selection process. I came here to study, but the policy gave us a promise at the beginning. I believe I am not the only one affected here; many people who have brought their families will be even more significantly impacted than I am. Some might question whether I can find a job or if my language skills are not up to par. Having lived in the United States for 10 years, my English proficiency could not possibly be an issue. Furthermore, the majority of us have invested a significant amount of effort, finances, and time to prepare for this move. Shouldn't policy changes provide us with a buffer period to prepare? It's surprising to see that policies in Canada can be changed overnight.
There was always a risk, there was no guarantee, because if there was you would have it in writing, as a contract, everyone is learning sometimes taking risks goes the wrong way.
China is so far ahead of us these days in Canada and the USA
Why would you come here deal with the racism and the fact our countries are propped by the borrowed external Sovereign debt we can’t past off
It’s the Asian century…. You come here and your great great grandkids will be paying off the debts people like me ran up
@@Dathremar new regulations shouldn’t come at the expense of students who are already affected
No one signed a contract with these students guaranteeing that the permanent residency program will not change. They only guaranteed them education in exchange for the money that they paid. That's it. So no one violated any conditions. Next thing you know a bunch of tourists will gather up and demand some changes to allow them to stay here. And the government will comply.
oh wow boo hoo. if u have so much work experience in the US then finding work in CA shouldn't be hard for u. ur fine ok?
The students support the new policy and understand the purpose of the change from the gov. But to those who have enrolled, they just need a buffer time. It is very reasonable.
Imagine there are two students enrolled in 2023. One chose a 1-yr master program while the other chose a 2-yr program. The thing is, why the student studying in a shorter program can benefit from the old stream while the student spending more time in a more difficult program is kicked out?
I mean, the new pnp is good, it clarifies what you need to survive in the job market. But why is it based on when you graduate/apply for PNP? That's unfair to those who decided to study in a longer and harder program.
They want to change it that’s fine
shouldnt change it for any of the people registered in the programs already
Anyone new the rules apply to them. They will know what they signed up for
2-yr program grants you longer work visa. choose at your own risk.
@@idontreply2236 no the visa time is the same now. That’s called change overnight😅
The immigration policy can be changed, but it shouldn't affect those enrolled students.
It's like when you go to a 10km marathon and halfway through the race, the organizer tells you that the marathon has been changed to 20km. You can still make it, but that’s not your original intention.
Countries can change rules as they wish.
@@Dathremar sounds like Canada is an authoritarian country
@@Dathremar Yes, but they should consider people under the old regulations.
@@Dathremar No one says the government can't change policies. You need to read my first sentence at least before you comment.
@@Mirabi1itewhy should the Government consider them if it was not bound by anything, such as a contract.
Bcpnp Injustice. Give them a grace period!
I don't usually post on the Internet but some hateful comments made me very uncomfortable. Even though I am not enrolled in PNP program and this doesn't affect me that much as those who had quit their jobs/brought families, I feel this is unfair for people who have made choices influenced by the old policy. Last year I gave up offer from my dream program at CMU and came to study and research at British Columbia because I trusted in the consistency of BC's policy and the opportunity to gain more work experience after graduation (in the States it's shorter for non-STEM majors). In fact, there are many staff and professors in my university were once international students. Most international students I know are well educated people, who work diligently and contribute to the economy and educational system, not like those hateful comments said. BC government used this policy to attract students, and then changed it overnight because of a few bad actors. This change without any buffer period ends up affecting all students graduating later than Dec. 2024, including those who have enrolled and accepted offers. We all know the current job market is very challenging to enter, not to mention many positions require PR/citizenship. The sudden change on work permit length and BCPNP program have brought huge stress in the international students communities.
The implementation of a new policy should indeed consider the rights and commitments made to those who enrolled under the previous policy. Providing access to the old policy pathway for students who enrolled under different terms reflects a commitment to fairness and consistency, aligning with fundamental Canadian values. Upholding the credibility of the government and fostering trust among citizens is paramount, as arbitrary changes to policies undermine public confidence and erode trust in governance.
Some students have given up offers from Yale to attend a two-year master's program in BC due to this policy. They need to publish papers at international conferences to enhance the academic reputation of BC universities. They also need to pass thesis defenses. Meanwhile, students in one-year programs only need to complete their courses to graduate. The absurdity arises when, assuming they all enrolled in the fall of 2023, the one-year students can apply for provincial nomination under the old rules, while the two-year students, who face greater challenges and make more significant contributions, cannot? Is this really the outcome a government policy should produce? If this is the case, we will all live in fear of policy instability, even if we meet the new rules, because no one knows whether we will become a victim again.
International students are not immigrant, PR card should not be based on students visa and also BC government should stopped work permit immediately for international students.
After they finish their schooling in Canada they should be on a plane back to where they came from. They all use this student program as a way to get Canadian citizenship citizenship
But this pathway is provided by the government to attract high-skilled people, if the government hadn't provided the policy, would anyone come to Canada?
The implementation of the new policy should fully consider the rights and interests of Master's students currently enrolled in 2024 and those about to enroll. For new students entering in 2025, the new policy should be enforced. The government needs to ensure fairness and justice to maintain its credibility. While the sacrifice of this small group may seem inconsequential to Canada as a whole, it is devastating for each of their families. They will feel extremely painful and heartbroken, losing trust in the government's commitments. They made choices before enrollment based on the guidance of the old policy, believing in the government, sacrificing much, and giving up much, all to come to BC to pursue their dreams. They have already invested significant financial and time costs in education, only to be abandoned by the government before graduation. This blow is enough to destroy many families. If all policy updates lack transition periods, even local Canadians may feel insecure. It's highly likely that what's happening to the students today could happen to you in the future.
Good rule… they abuse it to bring their relatives in through the backdoor.
Yep, need to reduce all these liabilities coming through the door.
We borrowed and spent living the good life/high standard of living
That is what you folks don’t get… we are broke…. Canadians who can’t pay our debts sitting on 2 trillion in Provincial/Federal debt these days
Debt we really started running up in the 1940s.
Sow dem gud ole dais ye pine fer?
we didn’t pay for the first time around
Which we just kicked this debt down the road for future generations to pay for
Problem is, we stopped meeting “natural” population replacement rates in 1971
And we have around 1000 boomers turning 65 each and everyday in Canada (That started in 2011 won’t end until 2028) By 2036 we will have around 11 million Canadian seniors
As by 2032 immigration will make up 100% of our population growth
So we pack in the immigrants the poor ones to make our french fries and more importantly flip us over in bed in the old age home
The rich ones to come support the economy and prop up the real estate
Because most of these boomers are also personally cash poor/in debt
But luckily….most of these boomers????
Shockingly by some engineered miracle the last few decades 😉!!!!! own a 40 year old plus never been renovated, overpriced home some immigrant is willing to overpay for.
Which these boomers can get lines of credit on or reverse mortgage on Or sell if they have to
Which they should not .. … as that home will be one their own personal old age home in the future unless you can show me some links…
on our building/buying enough facilities to house millions of Canadian seniors in the next decade
Yes it’s one big Ponzi scheme that scr (ew) over the younger folks but we don’t want to crash our Ponzi Scheme of economy.
(I have purposely gone to live in countries and among the locals living on a dollar a day wages in comparison to our dollar. You think your life su…cks these days)
Try having 50k of someone else’s currency worth 2 million of our Canadian dollars
Or have what kids you and I did actually have… Having to sell their wares to Russian sailors for a 500 CDN dollar loaf of bread or trying to sail a boat to some distant country for a better life
Or grandmami/grandpapi begging on the street because that nest egg home they have they can’t sell off or afford to live in
So the people at the bottom of our society lose out…. or we all do
Don’t like packing in these immigrants/people as the solution?
Let’s hear you folks say “I demand to pay more taxes” and “I demand less social services in return”
Or let’s sell 25 year 50 year forward contracts on our natural resources some foreign corporation or Country can come into mine. Using our young as cheap labour
Or let’s be known as the deadbeat generation who had to resort to selling off pieces of Canada
Plus since we stopped replacing ourselves.
It will be more and more likely the great great great grandkids of these new immigrants stuck paying off the debts we run up long after we are gone… As we stick them with the bill
But since we have been sel fish our whole lives living that good life let’s “now” complain about the solutions after decades and decades of this
Our being broke… azzz Canadians who couldn’t replace ourselves
Nobody cares when I was in university. Its hard to feel sympathetic
So you know they are wrong but you just join them? Come on these students now aren’t those who didn’t care you at that time. You don’t support them means that you don’t support yourself in the past, really insane😅
Same
These changes were long overdue, the program was being exploited and used as a backdoor entry to Canada and was being abused by "Students" from India in particular.
it is indian Sudents who are funding these colleges
The comment section is so toxic😅
They really gotta stop hiring reporters with heavy foreign accents.
I agree
This guy's terrible, this is Trudeau's Canada.
It more accurately represents the browning demographics of Canada in 2024. 😂
😂😂😂
Finally, someone said it. The fact I had to scroll so down. They could have hired an Indian raised in Canada - if they wanted to be diverse, instead they took even the 2nd gen Canadian's job and gave it to some dude who landed from India yesterday.
BC should not change the policy suddenly without giving buffer time to those who were attracted and already enrolled in the current program. This is Irresponsible.
Too bad, so sad. Best of luck somewhere else.
Why is an East Indian student reporting now?
Do not underestimate East Indian are more younger generations than Japan and
S. Korea.
he was offered the lowest wage and they saw the savings benefit
hes probably being paid 2/3 of what a white reporter would have wanted
@@birdeyecloud6801Could you learn how to speak English properly, before leaving comments that don't make sense.
@@birdeyecloud6801Indians always say that “we are younger than other immigrants”. It’s qualify not quantity. East Asian immigrants Japan, China and a Korea are simply better quality. The men in those countries don’t rape women like in India, and their culture doesn’t fit with western values
Yeah risk, but BCPNP program shouldn't be risky at all at least for enrolled student and even there is a risk students should be informed before enrollment. Btw I think BC government is just trying to blame international students for inflation and housing problem good job!!😢
None of immigration program is zero-risk. All of programs are subject to change even during applicants are preparing for it. 1-year job requirement for applicants at graduate level should not be an issue. In the first place, for what are they studying at graduate level if they cannot get even fixed-term job?
@@wes-cq4bo Bro the kinda fixed term job isn't cashier at Walmart, it's more like managers of some tech companies. So you tell me it's easy or not after graduation? And think about it what company would hire a foreigner with only three year work permit to be their manager?
@@zh7205 Your English is too erroneous...are you really a student at graduate level? By the way fixed term jobs are rather at entry-level or intermediate. Manager-level job should be permanent job, generally. And the new rule does not require that the job offer must be at manager level.
@@wes-cq4bo You are very patronizing and know nothing about this policy so please stop comment on something you don't actually know. I doubt if you even have a decent job lol.
@@zh7205 Nobody knows about this program because the detail has not been disclosed yet. So you should stop commenting if you believe you are right.
This should be up to the citizens not foreigners.
Jebaited into the Canadian ponzi scheme. Thanks for your tuition fees! lol
I am European and we have a foreign student program, however after graduation and upon completion of their studies, they have to leave the country and go home. What Canada created there is a huge loophole on their immigration system which is being exploited by economic migrants, pretending to be students. Mostly from overpopulated countries like India, China, Philippines, Pakistan and some African countries. Your government needs to put an end to this, otherwise it will get out of control and the damages will be irreversible. If Canada has a demographic issue, it should solve it by supporting young Canadians and Canadian working families, so they have more kids.
100%
Most of Europe is in debt and can’t replace itself
Nice rant though
@@DW-op7ly every country on earth is in debt . Your point is ?
Yes, besides, there is already a housing crisis in Canada! These rich international students are taking up residencies and causing the prices to go impossibly high for regular canadian citizens to afford. Rich internationals are literally crowding out the citizens at this point.
There is nothing wrong with being in debt
We are one of the countries who can’t pay off our external Sovereign Debt
CBC hiring Indians now to save on wages
Just a matter of time ... Punjabis will run the country 😢
Khalistan taking over Canada.
That's the problem in this city only hiring international students from India or the Philippines and China over citizens. I'm tired of this situation. NDP is a horrible government it's time to go . The province of British Columbia needs back Canadian values . Sometimes, I feel live on an island from China or India .
We borrowed and spent living the good life/high standard of living
That is what you folks don’t get… we are broke…. Canadians who can’t pay our debts sitting on 2 trillion in Provincial/Federal debt these days
Debt we really started running up in the 1940s.
Sow dem gud ole dais ye pine fer?
we didn’t pay for the first time around
Which we just kicked this debt down the road for future generations to pay for
Problem is, we stopped meeting “natural” population replacement rates in 1971
And we have around 1000 boomers turning 65 each and everyday in Canada (That started in 2011 won’t end until 2028) By 2036 we will have around 11 million Canadian seniors
As by 2032 immigration will make up 100% of our population growth
So we pack in the immigrants the poor ones to make our french fries and more importantly flip us over in bed in the old age home
The rich ones to come support the economy and prop up the real estate
Because most of these boomers are also personally cash poor/in debt
But luckily….most of these boomers????
Shockingly by some engineered miracle the last few decades 😉!!!!! own a 40 year old plus never been renovated, overpriced home some immigrant is willing to overpay for.
Which these boomers can get lines of credit on or reverse mortgage on Or sell if they have to
Which they should not .. … as that home will be one their own personal old age home in the future unless you can show me some links…
on our building/buying enough facilities to house millions of Canadian seniors in the next decade
Yes it’s one big Ponzi scheme that scr (ew) over the younger folks but we don’t want to crash our Ponzi Scheme of economy.
(I have purposely gone to live in countries and among the locals living on a dollar a day wages in comparison to our dollar. You think your life su…cks these days)
Try having 50k of someone else’s currency worth 2 million of our Canadian dollars
Or have what kids you and I did actually have… Having to sell their wares to Russian sailors for a 500 CDN dollar loaf of bread or trying to sail a boat to some distant country for a better life
Or grandmami/grandpapi begging on the street because that nest egg home they have they can’t sell off or afford to live in
So the people at the bottom of our society lose out…. or we all do
Don’t like packing in these immigrants/people as the solution?
Let’s hear you folks say “I demand to pay more taxes” and “I demand less social services in return”
Or let’s sell 25 year 50 year forward contracts on our natural resources some foreign corporation or Country can come into mine. Using our young as cheap labour
Or let’s be known as the deadbeat generation who had to resort to selling off pieces of Canada
Plus since we stopped replacing ourselves.
It will be more and more likely the great great great grandkids of these new immigrants stuck paying off the debts we run up long after we are gone… As we stick them with the bill
But since we have been sel fish our whole lives living that good life let’s “now” complain about the solutions after decades and decades of this
Our being broke… azzz Canadians who couldn’t replace ourselves
More money for the ceo's.
End of canada...how can a country can be so vulnerable to international students...
Next thing you know a bunch of tourists will gather up and demand something like a permanent residency pathway for tourists! lol
No they are complaining because we changed the rules on them overnight
Not that hard to grandfather in people already in a program
And enforce it on people who are about to take the program
@@ElenaKomlevayou are interesting
@@DW-op7ly So what, no one signed a contract with them saying that the permanent residency program will not change. They only guaranteed them education in exchange for the money that they paid. That's it. So no one violated any conditions.
The program was in place already
Not that hard to understand
Imagine if they changed the requirements for you to have a IQ over 100 to be a immigrant to Canada
You would be probably complaining like crazy as they boot you out
I would argue it’s not fair to the people who already started the process
Anyone in the future is fair game
It's really hard to understand..... I ganna say if everything can be change in just a day. Next time will be yours, no matter if it's citizen or not. Everything needs to have a reasonable grace period. Right now they seem to want a reasonable grace period. That's what I can see in this video.
Why these students come to Canada ? Because it is cheaper and Schools have money from governments .... we should increase costs equal to USA about 50 k per year if they want to stay
the scholls are funded by forgien students..and immigrants... it is 22 billion cad industry
Citizens should be a priority. We don't have peace for other countries. Go home 🏡
so what about refugees? Canada brings in international student immigrants for its own benefit, then discard after use? Is this justice?
NDP is like that. Their move is inconsiderate and brutal. Many students were attracted to BC because of the provincial nominee program. A schoolmate of mine has used her Post-Graduate Work Permit. A person is only allowed to get the work permit once in their life-time. She has been doing a master's degree engineering in UBC for a year and will probably be forced to leave Canada if she does not get a grace period. Students should be allowed to continue to apply for the nominee program under the regulations and promises made at the time of their enrollment instead of their graduation.
Bye-bye, thanks for tuition dough and good luck! "Inconsiderate and brutal" = the CCP
???so shame for u@@StelViri
Old policy for old students who have been on board. Otherwise, it would be like asking a passenger, who has bought the ticket, to get off the boat or pay higher fees halfway before arriving at the destination.
1) Graduate education is not designed for immigration. 2) Applicants will not be able to establish themselves if they cannot find 1-year full-time job even with graduate degree. Why do they want to live in a country where finding a stable job is so hard as they claim?
@@wes-cq4bo it’s not related to if you could meet new rules, but you should keep your own policy in credit rather than change overnight and change overnight again, and change overnight again and again! These students are just victims I fully support them to fight for their rights
@@user-zy5xo3cf5c Change again and again? Some here say that the rule has been effective for 10 years. It is rather generous that gov will not apply the new rule until next year's applications start. See the fact that employees can be transferred or laid off by 2-week notice even if they just signed for a mortgage, for example.
@@wes-cq4bo what is generous? You mean ask someone to give birth to a child in five months? You mean change the rules from 100 m run to 1000 m run when they are already close to the original destination?
@@user-zy5xo3cf5c Nobody promised PR status to international students and it is well known fact that Canada changes immigration rules by short notice. If you don't like it please go to the south where immigration is much harder and much less guaranteed.
I wish Canada BC goverment could consider the current / ongoing and coming international student rights, and do NOT publish senseless policy without thinking....but rush
China can do it on a whim… why not Canada?
Give an example of them doing it on a whim.
Ask them what they plan to do after “studies” which they don’t have to pass by the way.. I asked 10 of them and all 10 say they will bring their parents once they have PR @@cw9282
Ppl with an authoritarian mind like you would find themselves more comfortable in China than in Canada.
@@cw9282 China doesn't allow foreigners to obtain Citizenship. How about that?
China doesn't allow foreigns to protest in their country demanding.... anything. How about that?
Can you provide examples to the contrary.
@@dreamingof777Yeah, Chinese citizens have no freedom of movement, no freedom of expression, no rights and freedoms at all, they are stuck under the very heavy boot of Xi and his pals
There is already a housing crisis! These rich international students are taking up residencies and causing the prices to go impossibly high for regular canadian citizens to afford. Rich internationals are literally crowding out the citizens at this point.
I think you’re right, but the policy should apply to the people who have entered the school, it’s unfair
Please just look at what they are protesting for OK? Otherwise, you will be cheated by government thousand times.
It's not the students' fault
If we are rich enough.We would never come to canada.
People from abroad have been taking advantage of Canada and its open door immigration policies for way too long, especially under Trudeau, but at least this weak NDP government is taking a token step. Also, I love the fact that someone from China is holding a sign that says "fight injustice". Try holding a similar rally against a Chinese government policy in Beijing and see what happens.
I think you lack the ability to think rationally and listen because of your racist predisposition. They aren't protesting the law change but the fact that they are already in Canada based on a previous law and this new change is being applied to them retroactively. If you know anything about the legal system in Canada which is based on fairness, you would have understood that there typically is either a ramping up period to the introduction of a law to give people time to adjust, or alternatively, a grandfathering period to a law that is being introduced immediately. And regarding their ability to protest, are you suggesting that the Canadian Constitution only applies to Canadians? It makes me sad that you don't understand basic Constitutional rights which every Canadian should know.
@@cw9282 The purpose of getting Master's degree is not immigration, and it is Gov's discretion to change its policy. Students should try to find a job instead of complaining. In the first place, how can they live in BC, where cost of living is very high, without competency to get a full-time job?
There apparently thousands of protest in China every year
These students really are wasting money coming to Canada these days
The degree the get from the west is no longer seen as an advantage when they go back home
How many Chinese students do you see come here to become Canadian citizens? (its usually adults or a family) looking to educate their kids
Where China leads the world in 37 of 44 critical technologies of the future these days
You should Google Chinese/Chinese American outsized role in the rise of America's Silicon Valley
They are coming here overpaying for an education when we are behind them these days
The vast majority of these Chinese kids are here to get that western degree. So they can get a job back in China
But then those western degrees are less accepted these days. Because white collar work over their is more about who you know and your networks
Their overpaying tuitions here is to subsidize our kids education
Like I said the ones from China really shouldn’t be here. Their country leads in 37 of 44 critical technologies of the future
But if it subsidizes how much my kids have to pay for an education then I’m not going to complain
How can they afford to live here their country surpassed the USA as the wealthiest nation in the world in 2020
The fact these students want residency in Canada shows these students have no business sense
Even though China has invested trillions in their belt and road partner countries
China exports are up 7.1% In 2024
And it still has a 820 billion plus dollar a year trade surplus with the world the last 2 years
Even though their Central Government is cracking down in real estate speculation
Slowing down their economy?
The Chinese people have added 2.6 trillion to their savings in 2022
And 1.8 trillion to their savings for first 10 months of 2023
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Chinese Consumers Are Saving Rather Than Spending Amid Economic Downturn Dec 21, 2023 - Chinese households have added 13.8 trillion yuan ($1.89 trillion)
The middle class is also prioritizing savings and seeking safe investment opportunities, according to the report.
Chinese households have added 13.8 trillion yuan ($1.89 trillion) in savings in the first 10 months of the year, an 8.5% increase from the previous year.
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Well , meanwhile they are trying to issue pr status to non regulated people here… sad
You can leave if you want btw, we’re not stopping you.
Justin T create mess in Canada . Home crisis is big issue
In case you didn't realize, PNP is organized by the province. Trudeau doesn't run it.
@@ffc1a28c7Don't the students need a visa, and have their passport checked by border authority and have a pass given to them for their reasoning for being here, afaik that's all federal government level.
@@Dathremar Yes, the final source is the federal government, but the federal government does not control the PNP sponsorship program itself. The PNP is specifically a way to aid people getting their visa. It is wholly the mandate of the provincial government.
Did I miss something where it is law for Canadians to have to give citizenship to anyone who demands it?
FJT🤡
Pretty standard. They're here for the passport. Once they have it. They leave. And Canada accommodates it. Higher wages. Less regulations and better opportunity lies aboard.
@@dreamingof777Yes, I read a comment a while ago from someone working back home in PH for a Canadian company, and making Canadian dollars and they came here for the degree and the passport, that's their ultimate goal
I’m sooo happy about the changes. I hope BC doesn’t back down.
We agree new policy, but we need more time.
I am a Indian here and I find it ironic myself. International students have no right to ask anything from Canadian government. There policies are made by Canadian government for there own benefits and policies can change for there own reasons , you students have no right to ask them for a extension or protests since it is not your land. If you had asking for a work permit to get PR you should have calculated that policies can change as per needs of Canadian government. It is there land follow there rules dude!
Who hired this reporter?
JT
Protesting because they can’t exploit the loophole anymore. LMAO
How to get Noc jobs when there's job crisis? Stupid policies. Atleast give priority to students who studied in BC.
Companies hire employee as permanent job, but they can lay off employees anytime when they think the business will decline. Nothing is guaranteed at employment. Canadian immigration system works in the same manner but much better than employment because Gov declares new rules WELL BEFORE application is done and the new rules do not affect those who already applied.
I know here in BC we have no more room for people they're single moms and single dads living on the streets with their children😢
Just leave Canada how they get the visas cant speak
I think it would be better to apply the former rules to UBC, SFU, UVIC only for their stem international grads plus those undergrads who majored in CS. Cuz these international students are almost guaranteed for PR even if the new rules come into effect.
Completely cutting off this pathway is not a good idea, to be honest, which will only results in a much fiercer competition between immigrants and locals for our already limited jobs.
The stem graduates are denied while the Fake Punjabi students are all getting their PR 😂 😂
Is the reporter saying that the new rule requires 1-year work experience to be eligible? If so, what's wrong? Just getting Master's degree is too generous and applicants unable to get that work will not be able to live in BC, where the cost of living is one of the highest. It may sound tough but someday applicants will know that the endeavor to get that work experience has solidified the basis to live in BC.
Regularization now! We stand united with international students
English is my second language and honestly I CAN NOT understand this speaking guy. Please!! Stop hiring people with difficult accent, this is not racist, is just common sense!!!!! 😖😖😖😖
don't like that accent either, but you should improve your listening skills if you couldn't understand it.
Maybe that could be the reason there is discrimination when they need to find a job
Sandhu 😅 geez WHY??
Good rule from the B.C. government Time for foreign students to go home we have enough Canadian students needing spots.
Gid bless u all from India
All just here to vote for Dan hong.
Dear foreigners, you have no say in this. Go home if you have any problems.
It doesn't matter what country you are a citizen of or permanent resident in, do you expect the government to do the same to you after you enter a program and before finishing it?If the government can do it once, it can do it again.
@WuJack-zs8wt I'm not a disgusting parasite taking advantage of an extremely accommodating culture, while literally destroying it. I expect all governments to take care of their own citizens.
All these students are residents here. And they are guaranteed by the old policy. You don’t even want to have a look at what’s the policy is. It’s a trap so I will not blame them. It’s government fault.
Haa bring Khalistani kids😂...
Canada needs far fewer from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc. We already have far too many.
Far-right, pro-Modi, pro-BJP is the big issue, we do not need these people in Canada
Canadian universities will hit with a financial crunch soon. My grandson may have a tough time affording tuition in 10 years.
He won't need a degree in 10 years.
No they can just get smaller and lay off all the gender studies and useless college degrees/ professors . Like any business they will need to get competitive to earn a new students money. At the moment they are just taking the easy road getting international students.
Gosh we have no more room I understand BC's a piece country but go somewhere else I said single mom and dads are living on the street because there's too many people
Money for food and education
Not for war and occupation!!
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People not form this country, demanding things they dont deserve.
Exactly! Next thing you know a bunch of tourists will gather up and demand something like a permanent residency pathway for tourists! lol
@@ElenaKomleva I'm all for proper immigration, but canada has lost the plot in the last 8 years..
But this part of students are deserved You can see the old policy and you will understand everything
So far none of these people can even speak english properly yet they are in a masters program?
Oh, the irony 😅
Most universities require IELTS 7.5 for admission, does that mean they can't speak English?
@@WuJack-zs8wt yes definitely
@@jeycalc6877 Your ignorance makes me want to laugh.
@@WuJack-zs8wt you probably can't even say the word 😂
Don't like it, they can leave no one will miss you.😂
exactly
Next thing you know a bunch of tourists will gather up and demand some changes to allow them to stay here. And the government will comply.
No one signed a contract with these students guaranteeing that the permanent residency program will not change. They only guaranteed them education in exchange for the money that they paid. That's it. So no one violated any conditions.
Bye 👋
Send em all back 🙏
Interesting. If this story is the whole story then it's a bit odd they wouldn't try to grandfather it in instead. Side note, can someone explain why pride flags show up in places that have zero to do with gay rights? It's the strangest thing, yet it's constant. It's almost like there's an agenda...
If the government is really serious then this is very good policy.
I think this is a good policy in-fact I would make it 2 to 5 years of work experience in the field you are in school for in order to apply for PR here.
They follow the right way and get dang for it compared to the illegal way which is easy as Apple pie! It's Canada for ya! Go to California!
even the reporter can hardly speak english
😂😂😂😂
They are foreign "students" and shouldn't be there in the first place