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Please do a counter video on that Austrian officer who made some wild claims about western weapons in Ukraine it was maybe 6 to 7 months ago. It seemed bizarre concerning the percentage claims he made I see no one backing him up.
How did America fall so behind, biden and bad presents... that's what's up and old generals .. America got to relax... and iron dome is need it .. America should nor be revealing anything to the world and keep it from the public knowing because China knows everything and they copy just like Russia
Loved being a 13F when I was in. Spent most of my time attached to infantry. During training we would pre-plan targets for defensive positions. I had a platoon leader ask me why I annotated a target as RUN. His face was priceless when I told him, this target is if we are about to be overrun. If I call it in, run, because I just called for a full battery of artillery to land right here.
One of the best perks of being the medic in Afghanistan was being with the command element. Basically a squad escorting the command element with the 13F as the primary weapon system and me being the medic in tow, just observing the war go down: LT doing diplomacy, 13F ending lives with the power of the voice, Platoon sergeant being dad over the radio, protected by a bunch of bad mother fuckers with sacks of lead. Now I sell cars.
As a Geman Bundeswehr Veteran (not Artillery but Gebirgsjägerbrigade 23) and following the Ukraine Conflict closely i find it more and more interesting how back in the mid 2000s we had strict Courses and even Excercises regarding both Trench Warfare and Artillery with it. And back then we all laughed about it, joking "That's World War I Stuff, why would that be important nowadays?" Fast Forward to the current Ukraine War, watching tons of Footage, talking to Veterans both from Germany and other European Countries about it: "Oh...." So i'm happy we learned all about that kind of Warfare in the Bundeswehr in Hindsight. Seems like both Artillery and Trench Warfare together have become more and more important in Modern Warfare Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
@@CHMichael Exactly. We even learned about the so called "Unterstandsangst" which basically translates to "Fear of Shelter" which apparently was a Thing in WW1 in which Soldiers constantly bombarded by Artillery in their Trenches and that Terror would become so bad they would would suddenly start to feel they would be more safe if they run outside and just run for it. Apparently that happened quite often on all Sides, and of course they usually ended up being killed by Artillery.
@@hex8529 So you're saying if Ukraine had as much of an Airforce or well Air Control as Russia, there would never have been Trench Warfare in this War?
Hold up. To be fair the Ukraine war is not indicative of a war with NATO or America. Why? The chances are a war would be like how it was during the first year. America has capabilities where Ukraine did not. Remember the lightning counter offensive UKraine did in the beginning? A war would be closer to that. Only reason why Ukraine stopped was due to having no supplies. Sitting back during the winter was the worse thing they did. America would also go around the defensive lines. Ukraine cannot. No Navy for amphibious assaults. No paratroopers. While America has it all, and doesn't care about country borders. It can strike Russia from basically anywhere. Lastly and most importantly. NATO has AIR POWER, and the ability to do SEAD. America can at least suppress corridors or sectors for air power to go into an area, and wipe out any artillery. And that is the thing. Artillery is a sitting duck to an enemy with air power. With that said artillery is important. I just think saying this style war is actually what all wars will be like is folly. Russias lack of SEAD is a huge issue. They don't have fifth gen fighters that can get close enough into enemy air defense gaps to destroy primary targets.
It’s the mortar system on the back of a Toyota Tundra, the Vampire system on the back of a Toyota Hilux, and the mark 19 Crow system on the back of a Toyota Landcruiser. I call it “Spicy Toyotathon.”
@AsianTrix What are you trying to say, East Asians don't manufacture [high] quality Toyotas anymore? Really, I'm asking - I'm in the market, and I want to know the future of these Toyota streets.
Trying to get the Taliban to learn from me, instead. That way, they'll all become completely inept, and no longer be a threat to anyone lol.@@tomriley5790
@@axlfrhalo Its not AI its just a text to speech program that is synthesized through an algorithm to adjust the voice. if it was an actual AI you likely wouldn't be able to tell the difference at all.
Note, a Finnish general recently commented on the resurgent role of good old fashioned "dumb" artillery. Artillery fire support was so important in Vietnam. Going back to WW2, the German army had great respect for the US Army Artillery. Now in Ukraine it emerges once again as the most effective battlefield component. But as you point out, the fixed place fire support base concept, along with that of towed artillery, is dead,. With counter-battery fire delays shortening, the ability to shoot and scoot in under 180 seconds is paramount. I just wanted to say that you, Chris Cappy, produce the most informative and interesting material on TH-cam. You are also very funny. I get a real kick out of your jokes, even the groaners. Thank you for your fine work.
Counter fire is a serious concern, but a bigger concern may be drones just lurking overhead looking for signs of enemy arty, or other vehicles and/or men, to attack. They wouldn't be targeting where the arty was, but where it is.
“I meant nine rounds! Not nein!” I truly appreciate the little tidbits of humor you insert into your videos. They really break up the information heavy content (which is a good thing) and make watching your videos an enjoyable experience 😊
Many years ago, I watched a video of an Archer (?) firing six rounds in rapid succession. Each round was fired at a different trajectory, timed so that all six rounds hit the target simultaneously. I like to think the result was what Armageddon would look like. Truly impressive. The crew never left the vehicle and the evolution took about two minutes from stopping to skedaddling.
Archer is very effective, it’s a jewel for artillery. But it cost like 3x or 4x the cost of the french caesar. And it probably cost a lot on maintenance.
Even with older stuff you can do things like that in a way, but that requires a gun battery firing at the same time, which we did a lot of. 12 x 122mm or even 18x 122mm going at once is probably not a fun experience. And ready to fire time was like 3minutes from stopping WITHOUT computers.
@@victor6814 I had a lengthy discussion with a RusBot earlier, which forced me to read up on it to effectively counter his misinformation. It's somewhere on this page.
Retired Army artillery NCO and officer; 34 years, M109 and Pershing. Glad to see your reports on artillery. Still the King of Battle. Also glad to see the changes and improvements in delivering indirect fires.
Isn't it strange how history circles back. I was a 13F back in the day and am not surprised that it has become such a force on the Ukraine battlefield. I wish I had drones back then. The GWOT took the emphasis off the Mech Maneuver BDE with 155 SP support...and now we're back. They say history doesn't repeat but it often rhymes.
@@chrishooge3442 Indeed. I was 13B in the 1CD in the 70s. OJT to 13E and took over the battalion FDC for 2/19FA, 1CD. After OCS, FO and FDO. Then Pershing. After Pershing ended, the artillery had no really long range systems. In the early 2000s, MLRS came into its own. Now we have ATACMS and PrSM. We are continuing to reach for longer ranges and greater impact. The battlefield in Ukraine shows us that cannons will always be needed ant that artillery continues to reign.
@@o.leejamesiii4773I mean you always have a group of analyst's who preach that "The Tank is obsolete " or "You don't need to rely on expensive missiles systems when you can just teach advanced dog fighting" ect ect....we still use the Browning M2 and it's been around since your grand parents were toddlers.....hell.....you still got to send in us 11Bs to actually take and hold land. No amount of shelling or bombing can replace us and we are literally as old as warfare
@@gregs7562 It's not Danish version. It's Czech version on 8x8 Czech Tatra truck and Denmark currently has 0 CEASARs, they gave all of them to Ukraine.
The Archer is also based off of a civilian dump truck chassis making engineering, production, and logistics cheaper and faster. I don't know how easily they could be converted, but it's probably doable in a pinch.
as a retired artillery officer I had to chuckle at your spiel about investing in the artillery after years of neglect...so spot on....I was just shaking my head in agreement after I got riffed after the first gulf war.....keep up the great work. I enjoy your stuff.
I chuckled that an "Artillery Officer" failed to notice that a 12 BRAVO is a Combat engineer MOS not an Artillery one. Can you say 13 BRAVO there "sir?"
@@chrishooge3442 Mission denied. Actually, on that, I've gotten an earful from young officers (and some older ones) who don't understand why fire missions are denied so easily, or why the long, laborious Clearance of Fires process is so painfully slow. Why? Doctrine. We'd rather you died overrun by the enemy than by friendly arty because your LT thought Danger Close sounded badass.
It’s funny you should mention it, but historically middle children are the ones that join the military. I don’t know about now, but for sure traditionally in European cultures from the late 1800s and back (especially in wealthy families) that’s how it was. The eldest son inherited the estate and it’s businesses so he often learned business and management skills. The middle son would join the military because they were expendable, but also because if he survived he could earn himself property and titles and also potentially increase the whole families prestige all with little risking the families future lineage or wealth. The 3rd son was often encouraged to join the clergy. He was a 2nd backup, meant to be kept some what safe, but if he never had kids it wasn’t a problem (but a lot of clergy still had kids). It was mostly because the clergy was so tied into the politics of nations back then. It gave a way for the family to easily insert a representative into the political sphere. Again with no risk to the family.
Fun fact, most modern war heroes who get decorated for bravery are disproportionately the eldest child who’ve taken care of their younger siblings. They’re basically like parents and this sense of responsibility extends to the men and women in their unit.
yeah its a fraction of the population and basically was the system of the British Empire , monarchy , military , religious and an academic class , for the peasants it was shit .
Been told that, for some programs, that if they get abruptly canceled, it means it works and they are working on more features, and will need to keep it top secret.
1:30 To actually put it into perspective: 110 km away is three times as far as a typical railway gun, and over twice as far than the "Schwerer Gustav" and "Dora" guns used in WW2.
Look at the Swedish Bandkanon, which they phased out completely by 2003. It was a tank carriage with a 155 mm artillery gun with a auto-loader (15 rounds in 45 seconds). Talk about shoot 'n scoot. The BAE Bofors Archer was the replacement for this. It is even-more capable than the Bandkanon. It is based on a Volvo mining truck chassis. It can go just about anywhere that a tank can go. The HEER rounds for it can go somewhere beyond 40 km in range; they have a gas generator on the back of the shell which improves the aerodynamics after firing, for lower drag and longer range. And those aren't even fin-stabilized; the fin-stabilized M982 Excalibur rounds can reach about 50 km. The Ukrainian units, which received Archer batteries, love them.
having worked around mining and steel mills, where these mining dumpers can go is utter insanity. the steep hills i have seen them climb makes it the no brainer in my mind for wheeled artillery. it is baffling to me that the rest of the world is so laser focused on using normal trucks as the basis for there wheeled artillery with the thinking of replacement parts will be easier. these kinds of trucks are already made in mass, replacement parts are already common and easy to get. but beyond that the staff req on the archer system and for reloading is stupid low and quick. (which has been a focus of the swedish military overall for a long time if you also look at the gripen)
@@Sweden-nt3vp Ukraine told the US to stop sending the switchblade drones because they couldn’t be reprogrammed against EW, so Ukraine buys Chinese drones instead. Really odd that western GPS guided munitions continue to have problems but Russia overcame this issue over a year ago. Unfortunately Ukraine went with f-16s and other fancy things instead of getting each soldier a good pair of boots, NVG/thermal optics and good ear enhancement/protection.
The new RCH 155 from Germany might be the solution. Basically, they adapted the PZH2000 Cannon to fit on a Boxer 8x8 Chassis, added a little magic and now this thing is able to shoot while driving. That's the perfection of shoot & scoot...
@johanmetreus1268 they can. With the powerful processing hardware that provides fire control. There is some footage of it doing it's thing. Idk what top speed is for accurate shooting, but it was moving like 5mph in the video I saw.
@@johanmetreus1268 that video was pretty obviously a blank with minimal charge. if you watch RCH155 on 10x10 chassis, it shakes like drunkard every time it is fired.
@@davidjacobs8558 The German Army wouldn't order them if the ability of "hitting while moving" were a lie or fake. Besides that the shaking of the chassis doesn't matter because the projectile leaves the barrel before the recoil starts moving the chassis.
Also remembered quite some time ago when I was lil lad watching I think Discovery the Archer was talked about as future of warfare. Guess it's now and they were right
More like towed artillery toasts this crap. All this gimmick crap with it special reloading systems and ability to move quickly hasn’t helped at all in Ukraine. 1 gimmick gun that fires 1 super high tech shell which gets jammed by a Russian truck with a radio is worthless compared to the abundance of pack artillery. Every gimmick shell is over expensive garbage that cannot do the job of a basic 152mm from 1954. Every one of these systems is outgunned, and outdated by guns from World War II. The ability to lay down constant fire is more important. The ability to move quickly from fire is a tactic to merely reduce the issue of Russian superiority. Instead of learning basic reality the west has given up and convinced itself the way forward is focus on redundant tactics rather than fix the real issue of firepower. Russia doesn’t need to focus on gimmicks it just needs to put more shells down range. Any enemy gun is quickly silenced by overwhelming fire and a constant barrage is made on the front. Firing a single round every 15-30 minutes will not do anything when Russia can fire 20-30 or 40.
13A Field Artillery Canon Officer. It is amazing to me that we have not progressed further. Fully integrated wheeled artillery with auto loading and computerized terrain gun position calculations onboard should have been deployed decades ago.
Who'll give me good odds on, "After 2 years of investigation and purchasing foreign systems to test, the US Army has decided to stick with M777 and M109 but paint go faster stripes on the barrel and soldiers manning them"
I fear your comment is going to turn into a reality if the USA continues to build its debit at current rate of one trillion a quarter. The economy will collapse on itself leaving no funding for new equipment in the military as funds get diverted to debit repayments. I have seen financial costing on the Ford aircraft carrier where they talk about costs of 13 billion when launch cost was 17.4 billion with over runs and 23 billion when commissioned into service. Sounded expensive but further reading showed the cost was going to be close to 55 billion once the cost of the interest payments on the treasury notes sold to get the funding to build the carrier are added in over the 30 years life of the treasury notes. I don’t care how rich the USA is in theory I do not think any country can keep this defence spending level up.
It makes sense that it's Swedish actually. The little country that probably has the best military industrial complex on the planet. (Note folks, I said the best, not the biggest. Sweden produces some of the best weapon systems in the world, by far)
@@butterwaffeln develpoed and built in sweden way befor BAE got in on any of it 1995 BOFORS ! and even today the name of the comapny in sweden is BAE Systems Bofors BAE was not in the picture till 2005 Its not pure BAE Its BAE Systems Bofors AB
I was on a Navy 5", 38 cal. gun mount in Vietnam - we had RAP projectiles (Rocket Assisted Projectiles). Used normal powder charges w/o excessive barrel wear. Also, no GPS to be spoofed so results were excellent. Also, powder charges were in brass (like rifle ammo) so fire rates were pretty high. FYI
The 5"/38 is one of the most underrated weapons of the modern age. Unsexy and effective, over in the corner doing its job from WW1 to the Persian Gulf War.
@@stacymcmahon453 Uh, the 5"/38 was not introduced until the middle 1930's. It was preceded by L40, L50, L51, L25 5" models, with many variants. Now there exist a number of L52, L54 and L62 5" models. I'm not sure what is still in the fleet.
The U.S. has RAP rounds for 155mm howitzers. If my memory serves they only extended the range by a couple miles. I was a USMC 0811 cannoneer 2008-2012 on the M77 towed howitzers.
Artillery, the King of Battle, and Infantry, the Queen of Battle, had an illegitimate child, Mortars, the Bastards of Battle. When somebody yells, " you bastard!" at me I reply with " Thanks for noticing, you're welcome ".
@@MuhamedObradovic4 Jado jedan jadni Nora je bila na ovom testiranju, I usla u top 4 ali nije izabrana. Zato pokrij se po glavi kad nista ne znas i cuti pssstt.
Towed artillery is a statement of how well the US conducts combat in the past. By dominating all sides of combat, artillery can be stationary and we have done it for years. Towed artillery does has its place. There will always be adversaries that lack the ability to strike at a distant weapon platform. If anything, the Ukraine-Russia war is a wake-up call. So towed artillery will have to share the pummeling with very mobile cannon cousins.
It's not towed artillery that truck based self-propelled aims to replace, but armored self-propelled The US used to favor armor against counter-fire, but the success of the CEASAR platform in Ukraine proved that mobility was the superior option So these will basically just replace the PALADIN
Towed artillery is very important in this war as it's easier to hide and protect in special trenches, it's easier to repair and is cheaper. Wheeled artillery usually is not well armoured and requires soldiers to be outside for firing and that makes them extremely vulnerable to drones, cluster munitions. Veterans say that PZH2000 is very well protected, automated and reliable compared to most other tracked guns , including sustaining multiple Lancet drone strikes.
Still a need for towed, very long range, very heavy guns. Range prevents need for "shoot and scoot". Size for two reasons: 1) large blast radius corrects for low accuracy at long range (if nothing else, how to predict variable wings aloft?) 2) massive hardened targets, such as the blast doors of Cheyanne Mountain, or cratering a first class runway.
im supprised you didnt mentions the RCH 155 from KNDS which is in my opinion the howitzer of the future, its wheel based, can shoot while driving so there is no shoot and scoot just scoot and shoot with 9 rounds per minute
Well it's not american and therefore not existing. 😂 Especially if its better than anything they have. But it doesn't really matter because we fight as one hopefully without Trump. 🇺🇲🇩🇪🇺🇦🇨🇵🇬🇧🇧🇪🇪🇸🇮🇹🇳🇴🇳🇱🇪🇺💪
My son is in the US army artillery unit. The work is harsh on his back and ear drum. An auto loader is needed. Those young men's back and ear drums will be happy.
@@chrishooge3442a modern artillery piece needs power ramming there are various ways of packaging propellant that happily work with modern power ramming. Stuffing 155mm rounds into a tube with a stick is just archaic thinking!
@@victor6814 just no, soviet tactics were not just suicide charges. Early war they were heavily outgunned and as such did defense in depth where the dug in EVERYWHERE and tried to hold on till winter and Barbarossa stalled out. Late war, they such a huge numbers advantage that they could push using enormous amounts of tanks and artilerry fire. Mid to Late they had enough SMGs to equip that they looooooved close quarters battles where german MGs were less useful, thats why they did so many infantry charges, right after a heavy artilery bombardment. Dont get me wrong, their doctrine relied on numerical superiority and they were far more willing to risk lives for victory than germany ever was.
Without any shadow of a doubt, the Archer is my modern military vehicle crush. Something about a rapid fire artillery vehicle with it's own RWS is amazing to me. It feels like the kind of thing you'd see surviving for 200 years and in the future is used to headshot mechs or something.
Project started in 1995... delivered in 2013. Archer. So sexy. But of course the US can't go with it because "reasons" (I have a feeling some people want a massively costly development project to play around with).
Because they have the capacity to mass produce an alternative and so they will once their iteration of the French design will be ready. We do the exact same thing at a smaller scale in France, the benefits are just too numerous to pass. Economic stimulus, skillset & production capacity growth, strategic autonomy, and priority on delivery if you need timely replacement/upscale
Electric firing is complicated, prone to failure, prone to interference, and is likely vulnerable to EMP. Mechanical lanyard can't be taken out from an EMP. Newer isn't always better.
You cannot put the truck in battery, fire, and be gone in under 2 mins without an electrical system, which makes it mandatory since it's the main design philosophy of that weapon system Receive coordinates through Network Centric Warfare and make calculation while on the move, stop and deploy to fire, and get back in motion before the payload hits to avoid counter-battery entirely
7:30 Apparently, due to drones, the scoot part has stopped. You're safer camouflaged and behind an anti drone screen than on the road that's being watched
1:16 damn 10 rounds a minute. That’s pretty close to what the kiwis were hitting during the battle of long tan. Roughly 8-10 shells a minute per gun for 3hrs. The major factor in the Australian 108 soldiers defeated 1500 NVA. Kiwis are GOAT artillery men.
13A here. Really appreciate how well researched these videos are. Gives me a good BLUF statement of upcoming events before I'm forced to read into the nitty gritty. Keep up the good work.
An 11B that doesn't know his most loved and hated coworkers lol she be fine, we're all combat arms and devoid of feelings, so fuck you too kind sir lol
I met General Rainey during a cet event at my college. He graduated from our Rotc program. he is very big on artillery and spoke to me at least about it because he discovered I was a Fdc operator
As a former Mech Infantry Master Gunner (11MJ3) (currently as follows; "BRADLEY INFANTRY FIGHTING VEHICLE SYSTEMS MASTER GUNNER - 010-ASIJ3" (?)) & a prior 19K M1(IP) Tank Crewman, I tried to train my crews to "default" to a "Call for Fire" mode before using our "peashooter" (M242, 25mm HEAVY MACHINE GUN (NOT an Auto Cannon (unless > or = to 30mm! No END of "grief" for me at Master Gunner School at Benning in 1997! LOL!) (Look it up!)) Some of my best BCs (IF I could get my "Legs" to realize how awsome a BFV was as a "Battle Taxi" for all those bad knees & a great "base of fire"!!) were Sniper trained as they were great Observer/Reporters & at "calling for fire"! (Besides, a "soft" target like a Sniper wants to maintain "stealth" - also a FANTASTIC trait for a BFV Commander!) };]
During GWOT our Battery was reflagged as a Motorized Rifle Company, M109A6s were stored and we got the gun trucks. For a year we went through Infantry and Scout lanes. It was an interesting change for two deployments. But it wasn't hard to step back in Red Leg mode. Pull string, go boom.
@@Taskandpurpose There's dozens of us! But seriously playing Warno and formerly Wargame goes had in hand with you videos and learning about various vehicles.
I was deployed with US Artillery (Hell On Wheels) back in the 80's on a major excercise in what was then West Germany. I was an OP signaller for Abbott self propelled guns. What I get from this is that the old time method of maintaining radio silence as long as you can then bugging out after your fire mission is the best policy to avoid counter battery shoots. There was an old time stiry in the British Army that radio silence was in force before the barrage at El Alamein. Just before the barrage an officer went on the net and asked for a radio check which let the enemy know that something was going to happen. Good documentary. I spent five years on fire direction and what you have said here is exactly right.
👍👍💯🤣 I love your reports as always, but you really killed it in this episode with your humor. Starting my day off with an educational military synopsis filled with laughter and interservice ribbing was classical. Thank You!
Considering the ubiquitous GPS jamming we are probably back to the saturation fire era. Which means we get the fancy synchronized artillery barrage again :D
Probably not. Jamming is a cat and mouse game at the end of the day. We will likely see multiple types of guiding methods on future weapons outside of GPS. Which is something the usa has been doing
@kameronjones7139 if we were involved directly those jamming pieces would be targets and eliminated. Jamming equipment stands out like a campfire in the black of night we have weapons that track straight to the source
@thomasvelazquez9789 definitely. I 100 percent agree. The usa views them as high value targets to begin with and will take them out as part of the air campaign with harms
I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the German RCH 155. It's wheel-based on a Boxer chassis (but can be mounted on trucks), it has the awesome ability to deliver 155mm precision MRSI fire (with the same gun as the PzH2000) and can fire while on the move, has an unmanned fully automated turret and thus only requires a driver and a commander. And for an emergency, it's Hunter-Killer-capable to eliminate line-of-sight threats in direct fire. Germany is planning to equip three battalions of it's medium forces artillery with this beast.
That sounds like a bigger brother of Patria Amos. Is RCH a prototype or is it already being built in masses? This thing is going to rock and german engineering always 5/5
We are aware of Germany's "capabilities" of equipping its battalions. On paper, everything is wonderful. However, reality hits home when you read the reports on the state of the Bundeswehr in terms of functional vehicles, from tanks and armored personnel carriers to helicopters and combat aircraft...
@@Inkkari9 It's actually descendant of the PzH2000 and the 15 year old prototype Donar. All systems are tested and tried. Germany, Ukraine and the United Kingdom have placed orders, and Switzerland is considering buying it. The first howitzers should be delivered by next year.
One downside for wheeled is the ground that the truck has below its wheels. They can get stuck on wet/muddy ground, where tracked vehicles don't have that issue.
I think with jungle warfare in mind I think the Swedish AMOS system would be an amazing benefit. They also mount it to jet boats, think riverine or tributary warfare with a 7 mile automatic 120mm motor also capable of direct fire.
Love the S/O to RipIt. I’ve been drinking them since the early 00s and my vet buddies are always like AYYY! Good on RipIt for doing their bit to send some love to our boots 💯
The mention of artillery crews being pressed into service as infantry reminds me of one of my uni lecturers' stories of being in the Royal Artillery during the Aden Emergency in the 1960s. He told us about going on patrols, often led by young artillery officers with little infantry training beyond the basics they learned at Sandhurst. He described the experience as hair-raising, but said that it improved once line infantry officers and NCOs were attached to their strength for those patrols.
I was a Marine Corps artillery officer in Vietnam and after for nine years before switching to a logistics specialty. I often thought then that tanks and artillery would go away like chariots and phalanxes in my lifetime. I have, thus far, been correct in that the Marines no longer have tanks. This article legitimizes my prediction that artillery is also becoming a thing of the past. Maintenance will be time and cost intensive. Missile and drone technology with associated reduced costs have trumped tanks and artillery. The cost for tanks and artillery is prohibitive. It was fun while it lasted, but all good things must come to an end. The king is dead. Long live the king!
Join the new Subreddit ! www.reddit.com/r/Taskandpurpose2 would be great to hear video requests for future content, get feedback directly from a community who cares about defense news, geopolitics, and all around grunt stuff. Feel free to sh*** post about my ability to pronounce foreign and domestic words. It would be great to share memes and get to know you guys better over there. (the old subreddit I accidently got locked out of years ago)
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You kind of missed the RCH 155. Shooting 155mm artillery rounds while driving is the next thing.
What, you like Serbian 🇷🇸 howitzer Nora!?!?😊
Please do a counter video on that Austrian officer who made some wild claims about western weapons in Ukraine it was maybe 6 to 7 months ago. It seemed bizarre concerning the percentage claims he made I see no one backing him up.
How did America fall so behind, biden and bad presents... that's what's up and old generals .. America got to relax... and iron dome is need it .. America should nor be revealing anything to the world and keep it from the public knowing because China knows everything and they copy just like Russia
13F here. Just tell me which grid square is bothering you, and I'll have it removed in no time. I promise it won't bother you anymore.
I thought you were saying your a 13 year old girl 😅😅
What it 13f?
13 year old girls are different than they used to be
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See that bunker?
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@@CommanderWill007BR 13 fox i think.. artillery men...
Im probably wrong but thats what would make sense
Cappy apologizing to the artillery and asking for a second chance was gold
Golden cringe. I mean that in the nicest way.
@@ddegn And here I thought Golden Cringe was another term for butter bar.
The nickname Assclap ain't for nothing
@bostonspartan4194 he already said he was your average infantryman
Redlegs needed this apology.
This artillery story has a great arc
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HA!!! Wordplay.
@@erf3176 The plot con-fuzed me.
From a 19kilo, tanks ^^
In my opinion, this pun _blows._
Yeah, I know, it sucked.
Loved being a 13F when I was in. Spent most of my time attached to infantry. During training we would pre-plan targets for defensive positions. I had a platoon leader ask me why I annotated a target as RUN. His face was priceless when I told him, this target is if we are about to be overrun. If I call it in, run, because I just called for a full battery of artillery to land right here.
One of the best perks of being the medic in Afghanistan was being with the command element. Basically a squad escorting the command element with the 13F as the primary weapon system and me being the medic in tow, just observing the war go down: LT doing diplomacy, 13F ending lives with the power of the voice, Platoon sergeant being dad over the radio, protected by a bunch of bad mother fuckers with sacks of lead.
Now I sell cars.
Hummmm @@Chris-fn4df
10:55 CAESAR is a french system. The name stands for: Camion Équipé d'un Système d'Artillerie (Truck equipped with an artillery system)
Très bien
No, I named it after Ceasar's Palace in Las Vegas, also Caesar of Rome. That camion/truck is just there for serious people who don't want any jokes!
As a Geman Bundeswehr Veteran (not Artillery but Gebirgsjägerbrigade 23) and following the Ukraine Conflict closely i find it more and more interesting how back in the mid 2000s we had strict Courses and even Excercises regarding both Trench Warfare and Artillery with it. And back then we all laughed about it, joking "That's World War I Stuff, why would that be important nowadays?"
Fast Forward to the current Ukraine War, watching tons of Footage, talking to Veterans both from Germany and other European Countries about it: "Oh...."
So i'm happy we learned all about that kind of Warfare in the Bundeswehr in Hindsight.
Seems like both Artillery and Trench Warfare together have become more and more important in Modern Warfare
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
Until the sound of a little drone disturbs the tranquility.... seems like mobility and underground hiding places are king .... aufwiederschaun
With air superiority trench warfare has no place
@@CHMichael
Exactly. We even learned about the so called "Unterstandsangst" which basically translates to "Fear of Shelter" which apparently was a Thing in WW1 in which Soldiers constantly bombarded by Artillery in their Trenches and that Terror would become so bad they would would suddenly start to feel they would be more safe if they run outside and just run for it.
Apparently that happened quite often on all Sides, and of course they usually ended up being killed by Artillery.
@@hex8529
So you're saying if Ukraine had as much of an Airforce or well Air Control as Russia, there would never have been Trench Warfare in this War?
Hold up. To be fair the Ukraine war is not indicative of a war with NATO or America.
Why? The chances are a war would be like how it was during the first year. America has capabilities where Ukraine did not.
Remember the lightning counter offensive UKraine did in the beginning?
A war would be closer to that.
Only reason why Ukraine stopped was due to having no supplies. Sitting back during the winter was the worse thing they did.
America would also go around the defensive lines. Ukraine cannot.
No Navy for amphibious assaults. No paratroopers. While America has it all, and doesn't care about country borders. It can strike Russia from basically anywhere.
Lastly and most importantly. NATO has AIR POWER, and the ability to do SEAD.
America can at least suppress corridors or sectors for air power to go into an area, and wipe out any artillery.
And that is the thing. Artillery is a sitting duck to an enemy with air power.
With that said artillery is important. I just think saying this style war is actually what all wars will be like is folly.
Russias lack of SEAD is a huge issue. They don't have fifth gen fighters that can get close enough into enemy air defense gaps to destroy primary targets.
It’s the mortar system on the back of a Toyota Tundra, the Vampire system on the back of a Toyota Hilux, and the mark 19 Crow system on the back of a Toyota Landcruiser. I call it “Spicy Toyotathon.”
Toyota Wars II, back packing a punch.
@AsianTrix
What are you trying to say, East Asians don't manufacture [high] quality Toyotas anymore?
Really, I'm asking - I'm in the market, and I want to know the future of these Toyota streets.
I love those drone guided MK. 19 videos on r/Ukrainewarvideoreport
Learnign from the taliban:-)?
Trying to get the Taliban to learn from me, instead. That way, they'll all become completely inept, and no longer be a threat to anyone lol.@@tomriley5790
Thankfully, no AI narration. We appreciate the human touch, Cappy! 👌
As soon as I suspect it, I dislike and quit the video immediately.
Future artillery may use an auto loader but his videos will be manual and human.
fkn preach, i cannot stand the AI narrations
@@axlfrhalo Its not AI its just a text to speech program that is synthesized through an algorithm to adjust the voice. if it was an actual AI you likely wouldn't be able to tell the difference at all.
@@_gungrave_6802 What ai program are you talking about? Every one I've seen suffers run-on sentences and mispronunciations.
Note, a Finnish general recently commented on the resurgent role of good old fashioned "dumb" artillery. Artillery fire support was so important in Vietnam. Going back to WW2, the German army had great respect for the US Army Artillery. Now in Ukraine it emerges once again as the most effective battlefield component. But as you point out, the fixed place fire support base concept, along with that of towed artillery, is dead,. With counter-battery fire delays shortening, the ability to shoot and scoot in under 180 seconds is paramount.
I just wanted to say that you, Chris Cappy, produce the most informative and interesting material on TH-cam. You are also very funny. I get a real kick out of your jokes, even the groaners. Thank you for your fine work.
Ukraine have long been regarded as world class with artillery btw.
Counter fire is a serious concern, but a bigger concern may be drones just lurking overhead looking for signs of enemy arty, or other vehicles and/or men, to attack. They wouldn't be targeting where the arty was, but where it is.
“I meant nine rounds! Not nein!” I truly appreciate the little tidbits of humor you insert into your videos. They really break up the information heavy content (which is a good thing) and make watching your videos an enjoyable experience 😊
Many years ago, I watched a video of an Archer (?) firing six rounds in rapid succession. Each round was fired at a different trajectory, timed so that all six rounds hit the target simultaneously. I like to think the result was what Armageddon would look like. Truly impressive. The crew never left the vehicle and the evolution took about two minutes from stopping to skedaddling.
Archer is very effective, it’s a jewel for artillery. But it cost like 3x or 4x the cost of the french caesar. And it probably cost a lot on maintenance.
Even with older stuff you can do things like that in a way, but that requires a gun battery firing at the same time, which we did a lot of. 12 x 122mm or even 18x 122mm going at once is probably not a fun experience. And ready to fire time was like 3minutes from stopping WITHOUT computers.
That's called multiple round simultaneous impact (MRSI).
@@Chiron84 dunno that, thank you.
@@victor6814 I had a lengthy discussion with a RusBot earlier, which forced me to read up on it to effectively counter his misinformation. It's somewhere on this page.
Retired Army artillery NCO and officer; 34 years, M109 and Pershing. Glad to see your reports on artillery. Still the King of Battle. Also glad to see the changes and improvements in delivering indirect fires.
Isn't it strange how history circles back. I was a 13F back in the day and am not surprised that it has become such a force on the Ukraine battlefield. I wish I had drones back then. The GWOT took the emphasis off the Mech Maneuver BDE with 155 SP support...and now we're back. They say history doesn't repeat but it often rhymes.
@@chrishooge3442 Indeed. I was 13B in the 1CD in the 70s. OJT to 13E and took over the battalion FDC for 2/19FA, 1CD. After OCS, FO and FDO. Then Pershing. After Pershing ended, the artillery had no really long range systems. In the early 2000s, MLRS came into its own. Now we have ATACMS and PrSM. We are continuing to reach for longer ranges and greater impact. The battlefield in Ukraine shows us that cannons will always be needed ant that artillery continues to reign.
@@o.leejamesiii4773I mean you always have a group of analyst's who preach that "The Tank is obsolete " or "You don't need to rely on expensive missiles systems when you can just teach advanced dog fighting" ect ect....we still use the Browning M2 and it's been around since your grand parents were toddlers.....hell.....you still got to send in us 11Bs to actually take and hold land. No amount of shelling or bombing can replace us and we are literally as old as warfare
I think the CAESAR was developed by French defense not Danish...
Yes it is a french developed system
It was, by GIAT now NEXTER. Dunno why he called it danish.
The Danish versions on a bigger truck as the video (8x8,) I guess he just hot muddled.
@@aaronpaul9188 Nexter became to KNDS
@@gregs7562 It's not Danish version. It's Czech version on 8x8 Czech Tatra truck and Denmark currently has 0 CEASARs, they gave all of them to Ukraine.
The Archer is also based off of a civilian dump truck chassis making engineering, production, and logistics cheaper and faster. I don't know how easily they could be converted, but it's probably doable in a pinch.
as a retired artillery officer I had to chuckle at your spiel about investing in the artillery after years of neglect...so spot on....I was just shaking my head in agreement after I got riffed after the first gulf war.....keep up the great work. I enjoy your stuff.
I chuckled that an "Artillery Officer" failed to notice that a 12 BRAVO is a Combat engineer MOS not an Artillery one. Can you say 13 BRAVO there "sir?"
@@vincentray5226 i didnt catch that...im old with hearing aides 😞
@@woodywoodring2064I could never possibly imagine why you'd need hearing aides 😉
'whaddaya say artillery, can we give it another shot?'
underrated xD
Repeat, Over.
@@chrishooge3442 Mission denied. Actually, on that, I've gotten an earful from young officers (and some older ones) who don't understand why fire missions are denied so easily, or why the long, laborious Clearance of Fires process is so painfully slow. Why? Doctrine. We'd rather you died overrun by the enemy than by friendly arty because your LT thought Danger Close sounded badass.
It’s funny you should mention it, but historically middle children are the ones that join the military. I don’t know about now, but for sure traditionally in European cultures from the late 1800s and back (especially in wealthy families) that’s how it was. The eldest son inherited the estate and it’s businesses so he often learned business and management skills. The middle son would join the military because they were expendable, but also because if he survived he could earn himself property and titles and also potentially increase the whole families prestige all with little risking the families future lineage or wealth. The 3rd son was often encouraged to join the clergy. He was a 2nd backup, meant to be kept some what safe, but if he never had kids it wasn’t a problem (but a lot of clergy still had kids). It was mostly because the clergy was so tied into the politics of nations back then. It gave a way for the family to easily insert a representative into the political sphere. Again with no risk to the family.
Didn't the younger men go into the clergy? All my brothers went into the military.
suddenly catholic priests make more sense!
@@chrishooge3442 yea they tended to send their 3rd sons to join the clergy when they were pretty young.
Fun fact, most modern war heroes who get decorated for bravery are disproportionately the eldest child who’ve taken care of their younger siblings. They’re basically like parents and this sense of responsibility extends to the men and women in their unit.
yeah its a fraction of the population and basically was the system of the British Empire , monarchy , military , religious and an academic class , for the peasants it was shit .
Been told that, for some programs, that if they get abruptly canceled, it means it works and they are working on more features, and will need to keep it top secret.
Shhhh👀
1:30 To actually put it into perspective: 110 km away is three times as far as a typical railway gun, and over twice as far than the "Schwerer Gustav" and "Dora" guns used in WW2.
As a former gunner during my national service with French 93 Mountain Artillery Régiment - I really loved this episode. Thank you !
Look at the Swedish Bandkanon, which they phased out completely by 2003. It was a tank carriage with a 155 mm artillery gun with a auto-loader (15 rounds in 45 seconds). Talk about shoot 'n scoot.
The BAE Bofors Archer was the replacement for this. It is even-more capable than the Bandkanon. It is based on a Volvo mining truck chassis. It can go just about anywhere that a tank can go. The HEER rounds for it can go somewhere beyond 40 km in range; they have a gas generator on the back of the shell which improves the aerodynamics after firing, for lower drag and longer range. And those aren't even fin-stabilized; the fin-stabilized M982 Excalibur rounds can reach about 50 km.
The Ukrainian units, which received Archer batteries, love them.
Too bad the Excalibur round had a 6% effectiveness due to Russian EW after ~6 weeks.
having worked around mining and steel mills, where these mining dumpers can go is utter insanity. the steep hills i have seen them climb makes it the no brainer in my mind for wheeled artillery. it is baffling to me that the rest of the world is so laser focused on using normal trucks as the basis for there wheeled artillery with the thinking of replacement parts will be easier. these kinds of trucks are already made in mass, replacement parts are already common and easy to get.
but beyond that the staff req on the archer system and for reloading is stupid low and quick. (which has been a focus of the swedish military overall for a long time if you also look at the gripen)
@@reesestefer Let the engineers work a little and they will learn to get around it too, things develop quickly in war
@@Sweden-nt3vp Ukraine told the US to stop sending the switchblade drones because they couldn’t be reprogrammed against EW, so Ukraine buys Chinese drones instead. Really odd that western GPS guided munitions continue to have problems but Russia overcame this issue over a year ago. Unfortunately Ukraine went with f-16s and other fancy things instead of getting each soldier a good pair of boots, NVG/thermal optics and good ear enhancement/protection.
The new RCH 155 from Germany might be the solution. Basically, they adapted the PZH2000 Cannon to fit on a Boxer 8x8 Chassis, added a little magic and now this thing is able to shoot while driving. That's the perfection of shoot & scoot...
that is if they can still hit the target while driving around...
Hopefully it has a lower maintenance requirement than the PzH2000
@johanmetreus1268 they can. With the powerful processing hardware that provides fire control. There is some footage of it doing it's thing. Idk what top speed is for accurate shooting, but it was moving like 5mph in the video I saw.
@@johanmetreus1268 that video was pretty obviously a blank with minimal charge.
if you watch RCH155 on 10x10 chassis, it shakes like drunkard every time it is fired.
@@davidjacobs8558 The German Army wouldn't order them if the ability of "hitting while moving" were a lie or fake. Besides that the shaking of the chassis doesn't matter because the projectile leaves the barrel before the recoil starts moving the chassis.
"Shoot'n'Scoot". No less, no more
Or the new RCH-155 that shoots just as accurately from on the move, apparently does need to stop for a shot.
Also remembered quite some time ago when I was lil lad watching I think Discovery the Archer was talked about as future of warfare. Guess it's now and they were right
Towed artillery is toast.
More like towed artillery toasts this crap. All this gimmick crap with it special reloading systems and ability to move quickly hasn’t helped at all in Ukraine. 1 gimmick gun that fires 1 super high tech shell which gets jammed by a Russian truck with a radio is worthless compared to the abundance of pack artillery. Every gimmick shell is over expensive garbage that cannot do the job of a basic 152mm from 1954. Every one of these systems is outgunned, and outdated by guns from World War II. The ability to lay down constant fire is more important. The ability to move quickly from fire is a tactic to merely reduce the issue of Russian superiority. Instead of learning basic reality the west has given up and convinced itself the way forward is focus on redundant tactics rather than fix the real issue of firepower. Russia doesn’t need to focus on gimmicks it just needs to put more shells down range. Any enemy gun is quickly silenced by overwhelming fire and a constant barrage is made on the front. Firing a single round every 15-30 minutes will not do anything when Russia can fire 20-30 or 40.
Ah we found our ruZZian troll (@coatofarms4439), talking about how 152mm is better, epic Kremlin wet dreams for what you don't have.
Cappy keepin it real. Explaining all the big words to us simple 0311’s
Continued success brother.
13A Field Artillery Canon Officer. It is amazing to me that we have not progressed further. Fully integrated wheeled artillery with auto loading and computerized terrain gun position calculations onboard should have been deployed decades ago.
The Swedish Archer system has all that you asked for.
As a 13B (cannon crewmember) It pains me physically when you called us 12B
Shut up and build me a bridge 😂
Would you prefer POG? 🤪🤪🤪
12B (combat engineer) here, the insult was not lost on me either.
@@rogerwilco5918 nah gun bunny or Field Artillery Guy
@wwobbles but ain't that the same thing?
Who'll give me good odds on, "After 2 years of investigation and purchasing foreign systems to test, the US Army has decided to stick with M777 and M109 but paint go faster stripes on the barrel and soldiers manning them"
I mean the M777 is British so I don't see why the US Army can't buy from Outside the US.
@0yko alot of people seem to ignore or be ignorant of the various foreign derived systems and platforms the US adopts
@@chickenfishhybrid44 It's funny cause the m119 is also british.
Who cares where it’s from, this comment is *chefs kiss*
I fear your comment is going to turn into a reality if the USA continues to build its debit at current rate of one trillion a quarter. The economy will collapse on itself leaving no funding for new equipment in the military as funds get diverted to debit repayments.
I have seen financial costing on the Ford aircraft carrier where they talk about costs of 13 billion when launch cost was 17.4 billion with over runs and 23 billion when commissioned into service. Sounded expensive but further reading showed the cost was going to be close to 55 billion once the cost of the interest payments on the treasury notes sold to get the funding to build the carrier are added in over the 30 years life of the treasury notes. I don’t care how rich the USA is in theory I do not think any country can keep this defence spending level up.
You showed Serbian Nora visuals but you did not mentioned it. US army actually considered it and tested stand gave highest remarks.
True! I noticed the same-Nora Perun!
@@cinoeye Good I am not the only one.
Man, I was just thinking how much I love your personality in these videoes... and then you even drop a WARNO reference!
Sen. Jim Inhofe spent years telling folks we shouldn’t forget about artillery. He passed away today.
Sorry to hear that, I used to live in OK and he was a great senator😢
@SpookyEng1 What?! He was involved in insider trading and was a lobbyist for Oklahoma oil! The bastard stole funds from coof relief money as well.
@@svenrio8521 Also did the "Oh, climate change is real, well then why do i have a snowball in my hand in the Senate? Checkmate nerds."
Oh wow...he did.
@@dalel3608 Nerds can only cope and seethe at that haha.
I joined the Army in '04 as a 13B Cannon Crewman, then reclassed to 11B my second enlistment. GWOT was a rough time for the gun line.
The Archer is Swedish and i take it as a great insult that you call it danish.
It makes sense that it's Swedish actually. The little country that probably has the best military industrial complex on the planet.
(Note folks, I said the best, not the biggest. Sweden produces some of the best weapon systems in the world, by far)
I saw someone call it British… I was sick, there’s no way they’d make something so good.
Build in Sweden by BAE which is British.
@@butterwaffeln develpoed and built in sweden way befor BAE got in on any of it 1995 BOFORS ! and even today the name of the comapny in sweden is BAE Systems Bofors BAE was not in the picture till 2005 Its not pure BAE Its BAE Systems Bofors AB
All Norse flags look alike.
That "Test on live targets" 15:30 hit me a little bit 💀
I love Warno. I play it every day on my channel haha. Thanks for the shoutout!
I was on a Navy 5", 38 cal. gun mount in Vietnam - we had RAP projectiles (Rocket Assisted Projectiles). Used normal powder charges w/o excessive barrel wear. Also, no GPS to be spoofed so results were excellent.
Also, powder charges were in brass (like rifle ammo) so fire rates were pretty high. FYI
The 5"/38 is one of the most underrated weapons of the modern age. Unsexy and effective, over in the corner doing its job from WW1 to the Persian Gulf War.
@@stacymcmahon453 Uh, the 5"/38 was not introduced until the middle 1930's. It was preceded by L40, L50, L51, L25 5" models, with many variants. Now there exist a number of L52, L54 and L62 5" models. I'm not sure what is still in the fleet.
The U.S. has RAP rounds for 155mm howitzers. If my memory serves they only extended the range by a couple miles. I was a USMC 0811 cannoneer 2008-2012 on the M77 towed howitzers.
"Sign my field manual" 😂
8:50 well that sounded like it was directly aimed at me 😂
Nah fr im the middle child 😅
Same 😢
no one is more neglected than the only child of a first marriage. we end up joining the Marines and going Recon...
I’m the middle child and have red-ish hair 🤬😭 lol
Found the Warno player!!! Now that is a great game! You sir have great taste in games.
Love the videos man, I learn more every time I watch! Thanks for the great info!!!
Worry that all of these new shells will prove to be too costly and not be produced in sufficient numbers.
Artillery, the King of Battle, and Infantry, the Queen of Battle, had an illegitimate child, Mortars, the Bastards of Battle.
When somebody yells, " you bastard!" at me I reply with " Thanks for noticing, you're welcome ".
As a former 13D, idiot savant, we understand you.
Mortars are magnificant bastards.
As Serbian i saw Nora system on thumbnail picture, i like it cheers!
Vidio sliku i sav srecan. Koji ste vi jadnici
@@MuhamedObradovic4 Jado jedan jadni Nora je bila na ovom testiranju, I usla u top 4 ali nije izabrana. Zato pokrij se po glavi kad nista ne znas i cuti pssstt.
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Just received my FUBAR and Grill T-shirt. Awesome!!
Good video and good humor! Thanks
Towed artillery is a statement of how well the US conducts combat in the past. By dominating all sides of combat, artillery can be stationary and we have done it for years. Towed artillery does has its place. There will always be adversaries that lack the ability to strike at a distant weapon platform. If anything, the Ukraine-Russia war is a wake-up call. So towed artillery will have to share the pummeling with very mobile cannon cousins.
It's not towed artillery that truck based self-propelled aims to replace, but armored self-propelled
The US used to favor armor against counter-fire, but the success of the CEASAR platform in Ukraine proved that mobility was the superior option
So these will basically just replace the PALADIN
Towed artillery is very important in this war as it's easier to hide and protect in special trenches, it's easier to repair and is cheaper.
Wheeled artillery usually is not well armoured and requires soldiers to be outside for firing and that makes them extremely vulnerable to drones, cluster munitions.
Veterans say that PZH2000 is very well protected, automated and reliable compared to most other tracked guns , including sustaining multiple Lancet drone strikes.
Still a need for towed, very long range, very heavy guns. Range prevents need for "shoot and scoot". Size for two reasons: 1) large blast radius corrects for low accuracy at long range (if nothing else, how to predict variable wings aloft?) 2) massive hardened targets, such as the blast doors of Cheyanne Mountain, or cratering a first class runway.
im supprised you didnt mentions the RCH 155 from KNDS which is in my opinion the howitzer of the future, its wheel based, can shoot while driving so there is no shoot and scoot just scoot and shoot with 9 rounds per minute
Well it's not american and therefore not existing. 😂
Especially if its better than anything they have. But it doesn't really matter because we fight as one hopefully without Trump. 🇺🇲🇩🇪🇺🇦🇨🇵🇬🇧🇧🇪🇪🇸🇮🇹🇳🇴🇳🇱🇪🇺💪
doing a whole video on the RCH-155 !
@@Floh-yf7yzlooks like Biden will probably lose.. so idk if there is going to be any united future
My son is in the US army artillery unit. The work is harsh on his back and ear drum. An auto loader is needed. Those young men's back and ear drums will be happy.
I agree about the round. But the propellant charge needs a human touch.
@@chrishooge3442a modern artillery piece needs power ramming there are various ways of packaging propellant that happily work with modern power ramming. Stuffing 155mm rounds into a tube with a stick is just archaic thinking!
@@chrishooge3442 The DOD response is, "Your injury is not service related." Talking to a deaf and wheelchair bound 24 year old.
@@epuchildren8780"Here's a free tent and piece of cardboard to beg with"
@@epuchildren8780 then after 30 years theyll be like. "After extensive review we have found your allergiea to bw service related"
Thank you for great report
“It’s really more about capacity than capability.”
…the 1945 Soviet Army has entered the chat.
@@likydsplit8483 absolutely not it's combo
Soviet army :
- no capacity
- no capability
- only a flood of canon fodder
Crew survivability is also a part of preserving capacity something the soviets didn't care
@@victor6814Me when I only get my "information" from propaganda
@@victor6814 just no, soviet tactics were not just suicide charges. Early war they were heavily outgunned and as such did defense in depth where the dug in EVERYWHERE and tried to hold on till winter and Barbarossa stalled out. Late war, they such a huge numbers advantage that they could push using enormous amounts of tanks and artilerry fire. Mid to Late they had enough SMGs to equip that they looooooved close quarters battles where german MGs were less useful, thats why they did so many infantry charges, right after a heavy artilery bombardment.
Dont get me wrong, their doctrine relied on numerical superiority and they were far more willing to risk lives for victory than germany ever was.
Well done! The effort and passion are evident.
It helps when it's a government funded channel. 😂
cappy saying “monroe” 17:56 instead of MORENO makes the infantryman inside of me giggle. apparently none of us can pronounce names correctly LMAO
English isn't his first language, he's from New Jersey.
Without any shadow of a doubt, the Archer is my modern military vehicle crush. Something about a rapid fire artillery vehicle with it's own RWS is amazing to me. It feels like the kind of thing you'd see surviving for 200 years and in the future is used to headshot mechs or something.
Finally! Thank you! RIP to your grandpa! You should do a video about him and his unit if you haven't already!
Project started in 1995... delivered in 2013. Archer. So sexy. But of course the US can't go with it because "reasons" (I have a feeling some people want a massively costly development project to play around with).
Because they have the capacity to mass produce an alternative and so they will once their iteration of the French design will be ready. We do the exact same thing at a smaller scale in France, the benefits are just too numerous to pass.
Economic stimulus, skillset & production capacity growth, strategic autonomy, and priority on delivery if you need timely replacement/upscale
“Its been tested on live targets” cold ass line
Electric firing is complicated, prone to failure, prone to interference, and is likely vulnerable to EMP. Mechanical lanyard can't be taken out from an EMP. Newer isn't always better.
Low tech is more resilient.
Please tell me you didn't just say it is vulnerable to emp🤦
You cannot put the truck in battery, fire, and be gone in under 2 mins without an electrical system, which makes it mandatory since it's the main design philosophy of that weapon system
Receive coordinates through Network Centric Warfare and make calculation while on the move, stop and deploy to fire, and get back in motion before the payload hits to avoid counter-battery entirely
Consistently impressed with Task & Purpose!
Dude, I'm beginning to think you've earned my subscription!
7:30 Apparently, due to drones, the scoot part has stopped.
You're safer camouflaged and behind an anti drone screen than on the road that's being watched
you still need to scoot, counter battery fire still exists.
I'd watch a talk show if Cappy hosted it.
1:16 damn 10 rounds a minute. That’s pretty close to what the kiwis were hitting during the battle of long tan. Roughly 8-10 shells a minute per gun for 3hrs. The major factor in the Australian 108 soldiers defeated 1500 NVA. Kiwis are GOAT artillery men.
Swedish Bandkanon 1 from the 1960 s could fire 15 rounds in 45 seconds, 1 round in the gun and 14 rounds in the magazin.
What caliber?
@@chickenfishhybrid44 155mm
@@chickenfishhybrid44 fifteen and a half centimetres.
@Boggart74 looks like it was 105s at Long Tan which would make that rate a little easier to achieve
17:56 dudes name is spelled Moreno and Cappy pronounces it "Monroe"! Oh, that's our Cappy for you.
Cappy your videos are insanely well researched. Love your humor man. Love your content ❤
The Howitzer used for the Thumbnail is the Serbian Nora B-52 NG Perun.
Nice tip to Mike Baker there. He knows his sh!t, great guy. Stay safe and healthy Cappy..
OMG. You are on a roll! This vid is so full of killer jokes you could get a Netflix special 😂
13A here. Really appreciate how well researched these videos are. Gives me a good BLUF statement of upcoming events before I'm forced to read into the nitty gritty. Keep up the good work.
2 seconds before you said “it’s like shooting half way across Long Island. That exact thought crossed my mind.
13B here AUTOMATIC AS FUCK HOOOOAAH
OCS, 13A. Mood.
woops I think I said 12 b by accident, I didn't mean to misname you all ! : XXX
@@Taskandpurpose no worries battle all good 💯💯💯
Automatic? Your ass is in Fort Wainwright, aren't you? 🤣
An 11B that doesn't know his most loved and hated coworkers lol she be fine, we're all combat arms and devoid of feelings, so fuck you too kind sir lol
What you labeled Danish artillery is actually an 8x8 French Caesar ;) that we sold to the Danish before they sent them to Ukraine.
I met General Rainey during a cet event at my college. He graduated from our Rotc program. he is very big on artillery and spoke to me at least about it because he discovered I was a Fdc operator
As a former Mech Infantry Master Gunner (11MJ3) (currently as follows; "BRADLEY INFANTRY FIGHTING VEHICLE SYSTEMS MASTER GUNNER - 010-ASIJ3" (?)) & a prior 19K M1(IP) Tank Crewman, I tried to train my crews to "default" to a "Call for Fire" mode before using our "peashooter" (M242, 25mm HEAVY MACHINE GUN (NOT an Auto Cannon (unless > or = to 30mm! No END of "grief" for me at Master Gunner School at Benning in 1997! LOL!) (Look it up!))
Some of my best BCs (IF I could get my "Legs" to realize how awsome a BFV was as a "Battle Taxi" for all those bad knees & a great "base of fire"!!) were Sniper trained as they were great Observer/Reporters & at "calling for fire"! (Besides, a "soft" target like a Sniper wants to maintain "stealth" - also a FANTASTIC trait for a BFV Commander!) };]
Cappy, you are the man. Love your videos.
During GWOT our Battery was reflagged as a Motorized Rifle Company, M109A6s were stored and we got the gun trucks. For a year we went through Infantry and Scout lanes. It was an interesting change for two deployments. But it wasn't hard to step back in Red Leg mode. Pull string, go boom.
Get Some, RedLeg.
He playes warno?! Didnt know he was chill like that lol
my favorite game right now ! soft recoil arty is in the 82nd airborne division , its kind weak but its a fun unit
@@Taskandpurpose That's awsome dude. The newly added 101st is pretty similair but has more of the beautiful Apache.
@@Taskandpurpose Back to a time where Abrams were relevant again.
@@Taskandpurpose There's dozens of us! But seriously playing Warno and formerly Wargame goes had in hand with you videos and learning about various vehicles.
Great fucking game.
Always great videos so informative, and funny.. Thank you
I miss my grandpa. He was a artilleryman in Korean War too.
I was deployed with US Artillery (Hell On Wheels) back in the 80's on a major excercise in what was then West Germany. I was an OP signaller for Abbott self propelled guns. What I get from this is that the old time method of maintaining radio silence as long as you can then bugging out after your fire mission is the best policy to avoid counter battery shoots. There was an old time stiry in the British Army that radio silence was in force before the barrage at El Alamein. Just before the barrage an officer went on the net and asked for a radio check which let the enemy know that something was going to happen. Good documentary. I spent five years on fire direction and what you have said here is exactly right.
No word about the German Boxer RCH155
lol the WARNO callout. we don't get wheeled howitzers in that game. :')
Tbh, I think soft recoil artillery will revolutionize the way we think about artillery, particularly direct fire.
Sounds like the Oerlikon system with the gun firing while the barrel is going forward
👍👍💯🤣 I love your reports as always, but you really killed it in this episode with your humor. Starting my day off with an educational military synopsis filled with laughter and interservice ribbing was classical. Thank You!
You are good and informative...
Keep it up 👍
@task&purpose look at the South African G6 system. Made in the 80s. For exactly the requirements in the bid.
Sadly, our country cant even uphold our police or roads anymore. It’s a very good artillery piece but they probably stopped making it.
Considering the ubiquitous GPS jamming we are probably back to the saturation fire era.
Which means we get the fancy synchronized artillery barrage again :D
@anotherbacklog nope the GPS jamming isn't everywhere and against us that jamming crap is a target like a campfire in the black night
The more insidious thing is the ASAT attack on GPS satellites. Hard kill ones with missiles or DE Weapons - think ghost fleet
Probably not. Jamming is a cat and mouse game at the end of the day. We will likely see multiple types of guiding methods on future weapons outside of GPS. Which is something the usa has been doing
@kameronjones7139 if we were involved directly those jamming pieces would be targets and eliminated. Jamming equipment stands out like a campfire in the black of night we have weapons that track straight to the source
@thomasvelazquez9789 definitely. I 100 percent agree. The usa views them as high value targets to begin with and will take them out as part of the air campaign with harms
I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the German RCH 155. It's wheel-based on a Boxer chassis (but can be mounted on trucks), it has the awesome ability to deliver 155mm precision MRSI fire (with the same gun as the PzH2000) and can fire while on the move, has an unmanned fully automated turret and thus only requires a driver and a commander. And for an emergency, it's Hunter-Killer-capable to eliminate line-of-sight threats in direct fire. Germany is planning to equip three battalions of it's medium forces artillery with this beast.
That sounds like a bigger brother of Patria Amos. Is RCH a prototype or is it already being built in masses? This thing is going to rock and german engineering always 5/5
Making a whole video on it
@@Taskandpurpose I'm looking forward to it!
We are aware of Germany's "capabilities" of equipping its battalions. On paper, everything is wonderful. However, reality hits home when you read the reports on the state of the Bundeswehr in terms of functional vehicles, from tanks and armored personnel carriers to helicopters and combat aircraft...
@@Inkkari9 It's actually descendant of the PzH2000 and the 15 year old prototype Donar. All systems are tested and tried. Germany, Ukraine and the United Kingdom have placed orders, and Switzerland is considering buying it. The first howitzers should be delivered by next year.
One downside for wheeled is the ground that the truck has below its wheels. They can get stuck on wet/muddy ground, where tracked vehicles don't have that issue.
Always good info, thanks
Hi from Guam ...shout out to long island
I think with jungle warfare in mind I think the Swedish AMOS system would be an amazing benefit.
They also mount it to jet boats, think riverine or tributary warfare with a 7 mile automatic 120mm motor also capable of direct fire.
AMOS (and the single barrel NAMOS) are Finnish as Genomförandegruppen pulled Sweden out of the project in 2009
Ceaser is a French system........
thank you for the correction!
@@Taskandpurpose also archer is swedish, do some more research next time buddy
closed captions kept saying "Toad artillery" and no matter how i think of that it's making me laugh and smile
The quotes alone are worth the time to listen.
10:56 Ceasar is by French Nexter
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7:47 it's 13 Bravo, not 12 Bravo. 😮💨 _[angry 13F forward observer sounds]_
Love the S/O to RipIt. I’ve been drinking them since the early 00s and my vet buddies are always like AYYY! Good on RipIt for doing their bit to send some love to our boots 💯
The mention of artillery crews being pressed into service as infantry reminds me of one of my uni lecturers' stories of being in the Royal Artillery during the Aden Emergency in the 1960s. He told us about going on patrols, often led by young artillery officers with little infantry training beyond the basics they learned at Sandhurst. He described the experience as hair-raising, but said that it improved once line infantry officers and NCOs were attached to their strength for those patrols.
I was a Marine Corps artillery officer in Vietnam and after for nine years before switching to a logistics specialty. I often thought then that tanks and artillery would go away like chariots and phalanxes in my lifetime. I have, thus far, been correct in that the Marines no longer have tanks. This article legitimizes my prediction that artillery is also becoming a thing of the past. Maintenance will be time and cost intensive. Missile and drone technology with associated reduced costs have trumped tanks and artillery. The cost for tanks and artillery is prohibitive. It was fun while it lasted, but all good things must come to an end. The king is dead. Long live the king!
there was a key bit in his video: "60-70% of modern casualties(in Ukraine) are from artillery"