Ha. Had exactly this in construction. Was told I can't take personal calls at work. Tell the wife to call the site superviors office and leave a message, deal with it in my own time. I walked straight to the work truck, turned off my mobile and threw it in the glovebox. Sorted. Boss wants to know how he's supposed to contact me during the day. I said "It's my personal phone, I don't take work calls on it any more because of issues recently aired. If you need to contact me you should ring the site supervisors office and leave a message". Boss stands back with his arms folded, looks at the foreman "I suppose I should have expected that really". Yup. Same as I had a foreman ring me over and over while I was driving home after work. I knew exactly why, and it wasn't urgent, and I wasn't being paid overtime, so I ignored it. Wouldn't stop. When it went to voicemail he'd ring again so it was almost continuous. 15 minutes straight. Near the exit ramp on the freeway I tossed the phone out the window. Time for a new handset anyway. They think they can take advantage of your personal phone, and then apply a one way set of rules to it. Get bent.
@@annihilator2188 It aint nowhere near Pommistan. We used to get cheap Nokias for the cost of the first prepaid months voice and text. Like $35. I got in the habit of buying a cheap prepaid for construction jobs, and at the end of the job, or if I quit, I'd drop i in the concrete pour or one of the skip bins on the way out the gate. If I'm walking out, I don't want to hear from them ever again. Walked off a wind farm after they gave my work ute to someone else in the middle of a shift and left me with no way home. Told them if I got to the front gate on foot, I was never coming back. Got to the gate, turned right, walked 15kms to the nearest pub, got shitfaced, never went back. They left lots of messages and begged. Nope. To find a replacement through Labour Hire companies costs them at least $15K. All because a supervisor thought he was a swinging dick and got petty. The incident that started it, I told them I was taking a day off after 186 straight 12 hour minimum days. Kiss my ass, I'm gone.
@@annihilator2188"exit ramp" "freeway" "handset" bro what in the guns and freedom made you think this was Britain? This is the part of Britain that we smartly get rid of.
@@teslatrooper85 Above & beyond was born there and is still everyday practised on daily basis. There is a reason, when an US citizen works in Europe, they not coming back.🤣
"So, you want access to me, for free, on my personal time, but my family can't access me, if needed, on company time? That sounds a little one-sided. There's no 'i' in "team", but there are *two* 'u's in "fuck you.""
Who said your family can’t access you, if needed…? I’m a Bartender, and can not logistically have my phone out while working. However, I can keep it in my pocket, on vibrate, and check it when I have a moment free…
My supervisor tried that with me when I was leaving for a two week vacation. I was NOT in the mood for a long winded conversation, so I didn’t answer. I blocked my work number until the morning I was due to come back to work 😂. She was MAD because they wanted me to come back to work early . I asked her why she didn’t come back early from her 2 1/2 week vacation from Hawaii when another supervisor quit 😂. She said that was different. I told her mine was different too. They never called me again while I was off.
When training for my current job, we were instructed to say no to anyone asking us to do things outside of our work hours. If they ask again, we are supposed to report them to HR. I love my job. 😂
My mother was an operating room nurse for most of her career. She was "on call" for many nights and weekends and had to be reachable and able to get to work within 30 minutes. It could be inconvenient, but she was paid for her time. If that's what you need from your wage slaves, then pay for it.
That’s what my first minimum wage job wanted. He’d send you home when it wasn’t busy then call you back to save labor. This was for pizza 😂 Never once paid to be “on call”
It’s called wage theft each time they call you after hours and refuse to pay you. Document the amount of time over a month’s period and submit an invoice for the hours that need to be paid. If they’re unwilling to pay, explain that you will be reporting the company to the labor department for wage theft including the documented hours that were previously invoiced.
They will pay but they will also terminate your contract afterwards… or watch you like a hawk and when you mess up terminate you. Currently looking into countering that
@@MoistOwlettes @sondowultimate Yep, if they terminate a contract after whistleblowing, it's definitely called retaliation, also against Federal Law once an employee has turned a company in for committing federally illegal acts. However, the company can watch the employee closely and, if the employee isn't performing the job in the way they expect, they can go through proper steps and paperwork, such as enacting a PIP program, before terminating the employee. After whistleblowing, the company must follow and document all steps before terminating the employee to avoid retaliation issues. The one exception is layoffs. If the company is downsizing, they can layoff a number of people including a whistleblower, and that's not considered retaliation... so long as more than one person is terminated at the same time. It's a little crazy for a company to willfully craft a large layoff situation just to terminate one employee, but anything's possible when crazy executives are involved.
Veronica ain’t the one to try & pull a fast one over on. She is following her work’s contract to the letter. She doesn’t break any rules, she doesn’t make waves, she doesn’t gossip, she doesn’t do anything against the company’s SOPs, she stays in her lane, she is probably the best representative of an employee that businesses hate because she knows her worth & she will not be taken advantage of
She makes waves but only the good kind. Standing up to toxic supervisors trying to violate her rights. Unfortunately, in the real world, if you were to defend yourself like Veronica, they invent some unrelated reason to fire you. Firing you for not complying with an unlawful order is a retaliation lawsuit. But oops, no, you're getting fired because your position is being "outsourced" or because you were 3 minutes late twice in one month 🤪
Always reframe the comment as: “unless I’m mistaken it sounds to me you’re attempting to exploit me right now by insisting, demanding when, that I not only be on call but work for free. To be clear here, is that what you are asking of me?”
Not really. People who think like Veronica are one of the reasons things have gotten so bad in the work place. Activist/entitled behavior causing employers to not hire. Congratulations to your generation. You idiots took activism from previous generations. Water it down. You managed to bankrupt the small mom and pop shops, Though, the large chains just tank the cost from hiring entitled less productive young people.
It's true. But unfortunately in real life, people like Veronica get fired just for standing up for themselves. I should know. I've been dealing with these situations all of my life. The only employees that can act this way without the fear of retaliation are part of a union.
It's that attitude of "everyone has to do what I think is best" that's actually hurting us all. It's people like you who have made it so that PTO becomes "use it or lose it" when some people prefer to just have a bunch of it paid out. People are different, they have different priorities. It's fine to negotiate around giving up rights you don't care about without it affecting anyone else.
It’s not the end of the world to answer a quick phone call after work, or to keep your cell phone on vibrate in your pocket while at work & check it if you get a call/text from family… There’s a balance for both scenarios…
Hearing "if that makes sense" from managers is a red flag for me. It's intended to make you want to agree so that you don't seem too stupid to understand what they're saying. But you need to squash that urge and say it doesn't make sense to you, "because it sounds like you're saying..." and then restate what they just asserted, but in a way that highlights their BS.
Also don't say "it SOUNDS like you're saying." Have confidence in what you are accusing them of and tell them directly. Then double down, no matter how good their rebuttal is. Don't worry, their rebuttal will likely be pure crap. But if you don't have a backup plan and/or you're afraid to lose this job, then there's a 99% chance you've already lost the argument. That's the only power employers hold. People are too afraid to go job hunting and they don't have a savings account. You can always network while you have a job too, ya know.
Nothing is so important or time sensitive that it can't wait for the next day Unless you are literally doing an on call job and saving lives, it is never thar serious
I had that talk with my old boss. He wanted me available on my of hours for questions and such. I told him I only work while clocked in, and if he wanted me to answer the phone on my of hours, he would need to give me a 40% raise on my yearly income and make me salary. I told him I will answer every time after that. He declined and that was the end of it lol.
_"How do we fix this?"_ One of two ways: 1) Pay my regular hourly rate each night from 5-10 pm, or 2) Pay me a minimum of 2 hours overtime per phone call after 5 pm.
My husband was a salaried employee at a company. He was on call 24-7… It was expected and known when he took the job. He quit and moved on to a different employer. Hilariously he was getting calls for more than a MONTH after he was no longer employed. They were calling his personal cell as his work cell was no longer connected. He very nicely emailed and said if they want him to Consult what his fee and minimum hours billed would be. He never got another call 😂!
I worked in Dubai and my french boss called me always on a Friday which was weekend and then I started to call him Sundays. He quickly stopped his routine…
I was a nurse manager and would call staff at home ONLY if there was a patient care issue that we couldn't figure out on our own. Like it was unclear if a timed antibiotic was given or not. Patient safety comes first, but very few of my staff EVER got called.
The corporate world expects you to comply with these one-sided relationships with the possibility of promotion or giving you a raise but, when that doesn't happen you experience a bitter moment of epiphany.
Back in the 80’s corporations convinced Congress they didn’t need to be legislated to know their place and convinced workers that unions were a waste of money because, of course, they would do the right thing by their employees. Once they paid off Congress with lobbying dollars and busted the unions they systematically eroded workers on every front. Instead of paying workers thriving wages and often times even living wages, vacations, sick pay, full pensions, etc., they cancelled all of that AND fired long term workers to hire new workers at cheaper wages to keep from paying raises, etc. all of their savings goes to exorbitant CEO salaries and Wall Street investors while the worker is left to figure out how to survive from paycheck to paycheck, save enough in a retirement fund and convince the ridiculous Elephant in Congress that Social Security is a benefit and insurance that we paid for with a deduction from every paycheck and not a handout of socialism. Unions fought for the people by both collective bargaining and lobbying Congress on behalf of their constituents which allowed them to compete for actual representation of their members instead of monopolies and conglomerates that are in fact illegal; but whose 💰 💰 💰(which are less expensive than paying taxes or employees fairly) is buying Congress who now allows them to exist and control legislative action and policy to their benefit and our detriment. Bring back unions and bring back the power to the people, not conglomerates, special interests or genocidal foreign actors. (Forgive my sausage fingers and tiny screen for typos and punctuations, etc. i tried to correct and hopefully it’s somewhat coherent! 🙏🏼)
That happened to me I had to leave for an emergency, I clocked out after getting permission to leave, I get a call to do my time sheet correctly it was not Friday, it could wait till I came back the next day, and the funny thing they tell you, you cannot have your cells out, but my manager is watching movies on her cell phone, she hides it under her desk stand, says it helps her anxiety, that's nice I suffer from PTSD, deal with screaming customers cursing me telling me they will find me and kill me but I cannot have my cell phone out or use it to help my PTSD okay got it. Lol
Its funny to me on how all these companies want this high level of loyalty. The company is not loyal to its employees, im just showing the same level of loyaly in return. The greed of these comoanies is fucking crazy.
Here's an doozy; in Germany, if your employer is able to reach you while you are on vacation, you have to return if they demand it. You don't have to be contactable, you don't have to check mails, you don't have to carry a company cell, but if they manage to get, say, a message to your accomodation or your private #, you have to respond. They also have to pay ALL expences and credit the time back. Also, employees have a legal obligation to take 2 contiguous weeks away from work each year and if your employeer obstructs or interrupts this time, they will get a new rectum reamed by the labour courts.
Can't get a message to my accommodations if I fail to mention where I'm going and can't get one to my private # if the phone's off (Burner phones are easy enough to get for vacation needs). Problem solved.
What does the best team player get? No no, only the team owner benefits. No phones at work (like people don’t have lives), no work at home (like people don’t have good enough jobs). Find someone who’s good at what they do, establish expectation and then pay them like they were hard to find and replace. Keeping employees and keeping them happy is easy, don’t keep all the money if you can’t do all the work.
“Being a team player is dishonest and manipulative euphemism for ‘work for free’. So, I want you to grow a back bone and say it as it is. Ask me to be available to work for free for you. No? You won’t ask me that? Then this meeting is over. Expect an email recap & with HR CC’d.”
I will use my cellphone wherever and whenever I need to. No company is going to tell me otherwise. Nor will you get me after hours, unless I WANT to speak to you.
If they have to whip out the “T” word, they’re on their last card. An actual TEAM takes care of you. This is just a group of coworkers who want to pay their bills.
Should have been "my family has a strict cellphone policy, where I'm not allowed to have my company phone out, or take calls, messages, or emails from work during off hours".
Thank you for your animation. I enjoy your site. I forwarded your site to a supervisor so that when I say nothing, they are reminded of your animation shorts. Keep them coming!😂
Absolutely. Just put the Frontline on salary and let them flex a bit for appointments and whatnot under the agreement that on occasion, there may be a need here and there. Or, maybe a paid on call rotation.
I own a business and I would NEVER expect my employees to be available off the clock. I also don’t have a problem with their families contacting them during work hours if it doesn’t interfere with them completing their work. Now I am available to my employees outside of working hours, but that is my choice.
"My obligations and compensation are stipulated in my contract. If you would like to renegotiate them, I would certainly be open to that." Always remember that you are the CEO of yourname inc, and that your employer is just like any other customer buying your services. Gratuitously providing free services for your customers is called overperforming, and it's very bad for business. In addition to not compensating for time and effort it sets the wrong expectations, setting up a precedent for future non-compensated services . That's why your employer doesn't do it, and that's why you shouldn't do it. Overperform when it strengthens your brand. Perform free services when you get something out of it in some way, shape, or form. Pick up the phone in your free time for colleagues who need a favor, if they do the same for you. But keeping on giving and never getting anything back is not being nice or loyal or professional. It's just being a chump.
I disagree, every human being should receive the same rights and benefits….period. Unions should no longer be needed. Well, I guess America still needs them its citizens are still very unenlightened and seem to be going into reverse.
@@wendywill7519 In a perfect world, employees would all be treated fairly and with respect. Sadly, that's not the reality. The old union saying still holds true: "United we bargain. Divided we beg"'.
@@Grendelbc Perfection does not exist….but progress does in many countries. The U.S. stopped the progress of work-life balance for its employees many years ago.
Thank you for these creative examples of work life challenges and how to handle them. As a result of this type of Corporate mentality, iI use the description, "Slave drivers" and "Robber Barons". Folks who think they're entitled to whatever they want (on a one-sided basis) - and want it for FREE. This has been going one throughout history but it's become RAMPANT in the U.S. again.
I've been in outside sales for decades, and used to be one of those "always available" employees. Gave that up a few years back after my dad died. Suddenly became clear that life balance isn't a catch phrase, you need to exercise your right to turn work off. I never work while on vaca, never on weekends, and almost never after business hours. Sorry west coast.
It’s a pet peeve of mine when people punctuate each sentence with “did that make sense ? Are they that unsure of their communication skills or have they had a stroke 🤔
I will certainly do it, especially when it comes to making things exactly how i want it. If someone doesn’t like what i am saying, they will say it does not make sense. More like a "do you agree to follow my terms?" Than what is said.
Its a bad habbit im working on breaking. Ive relised that for me it comes from feeling i need to justify my feelings and actions as well as the fact that I brought it up in the first place. There is allso a inscure part of me that feels like i need to ask permition for feeling. I have a deep fear of being missunderstood. Ive relised that have this childish belief that if i can explain everything perfectly mabey I wont be punished. Im working on it in therpy.
I'm going to agree with the no cell phones at work. Too many people are playing games on their phones while being paid to work. I always had mine with the ringer turned off if I had a personal emergency going on or in my locker. As far as being called outside of work about work related things, NO! I mean they can call me to ask if I'm willing to come in to work but anything else can wait!
Hourly employees have to deal with this same nonsense. My boss called me into her office once and demanded to know why I didn't respond to her texts/calls on days I hadn't been scheduled to work, to which I simply responded that I was busy. After berating me about how important the messages were (they weren't) and that I needed to at least respond that I'd received them, I told her that if she needed access to me outside the hours on the schedule, I needed to be paid to be on call. Otherwise, I would answer and/or return calls at my discretion outside hours I was scheduled to work. I haven't heard another word about it since.
Working 3rd shift the daytime managers/supervisors would text us on our personal phones, none of us cared and would text back asap. These as sh*les started demanding to know why we didn't text back immediately... ah it is called SLEEP.... Something majorly important for us to have lives in our hands.... After that I removed my phone numbers from all contact forms.... Pissed them off
I had a job, and I became management, if I was contacted at home while off work on my company cell phone, I got a minimum of 30 minutes pay for talking to them... only ever happened three times, the third time I actually had to go back so I end up with 6 hours of overtime because of what they did.
At which point, they start making and taking any excuse to do write ups to create a paper trail and fire you for other reasons not related to this conversation and thus not retaliation.
I was out on Medical leave after having a surgery. Compliance trainings were due while I was out. My manager had the audacity to try and call me in to do my compliance modules. No. It was infuriating. What if I was in Mexico on vacation?? Would she have called me in then? Just because I was "home" she thought that would be ok.
I worked for a company that had a Veronica. Rather than penalize her for not following company policy, they would punish the entire work group by implementing some new arbitrary rule. I don’t work there anymore.😂
I was regularly called late at night or early in the morning to answer questions that arose. It took filing a grievance. Now, if they call, I get a 3 hour call out at time and a half.
Most of these issues are caused by these petty managers not the company itself. The managers make life miserable for People on their own and the company doesn’t always know about it.
Ha. Had exactly this in construction. Was told I can't take personal calls at work. Tell the wife to call the site superviors office and leave a message, deal with it in my own time. I walked straight to the work truck, turned off my mobile and threw it in the glovebox. Sorted. Boss wants to know how he's supposed to contact me during the day. I said "It's my personal phone, I don't take work calls on it any more because of issues recently aired. If you need to contact me you should ring the site supervisors office and leave a message". Boss stands back with his arms folded, looks at the foreman "I suppose I should have expected that really". Yup. Same as I had a foreman ring me over and over while I was driving home after work. I knew exactly why, and it wasn't urgent, and I wasn't being paid overtime, so I ignored it. Wouldn't stop. When it went to voicemail he'd ring again so it was almost continuous. 15 minutes straight. Near the exit ramp on the freeway I tossed the phone out the window. Time for a new handset anyway. They think they can take advantage of your personal phone, and then apply a one way set of rules to it. Get bent.
I hope you got a new number too 😂
This comment smells British
@@annihilator2188 It aint nowhere near Pommistan. We used to get cheap Nokias for the cost of the first prepaid months voice and text. Like $35. I got in the habit of buying a cheap prepaid for construction jobs, and at the end of the job, or if I quit, I'd drop i in the concrete pour or one of the skip bins on the way out the gate. If I'm walking out, I don't want to hear from them ever again. Walked off a wind farm after they gave my work ute to someone else in the middle of a shift and left me with no way home. Told them if I got to the front gate on foot, I was never coming back. Got to the gate, turned right, walked 15kms to the nearest pub, got shitfaced, never went back. They left lots of messages and begged. Nope. To find a replacement through Labour Hire companies costs them at least $15K. All because a supervisor thought he was a swinging dick and got petty. The incident that started it, I told them I was taking a day off after 186 straight 12 hour minimum days. Kiss my ass, I'm gone.
@@annihilator2188"exit ramp" "freeway" "handset" bro what in the guns and freedom made you think this was Britain? This is the part of Britain that we smartly get rid of.
@@annihilator2188- Who cares?
"Team player" is always what they say when they're trying to violate your rights and con you into free labor 😂
Yup!
We're a family here.
Yeah, it s not a 'team' anymore when it's YOU in the crosshairs.
@@bryanergau6682😂😂heard that one before, trying to sweet talk us into working overtime for free.
That is the problem with modern America, all these companies want you to work for free.
*with the world, except france
@@teslatrooper85 No, with the USA!
@@ALrinea ah, my fault. I forgot that the USA is not on planet earth, since three whole solar systems can fit inside texas.
@@teslatrooper85 Above & beyond was born there and is still everyday practised on daily basis. There is a reason, when an US citizen works in Europe, they not coming back.🤣
They will start little so you won’t notice at first and then it gets bigger and more noticeable. It’s what noticed
"So, you want access to me, for free, on my personal time, but my family can't access me, if needed, on company time? That sounds a little one-sided. There's no 'i' in "team", but there are *two* 'u's in "fuck you.""
😂😂 Most excellent 😂😂
There are 3 u’s in FU. You missed the ‘you’ itself.
I'm stealing that.
There’s no “I” in “team” but there is “me”
Who said your family can’t access you, if needed…? I’m a Bartender, and can not logistically have my phone out while working. However, I can keep it in my pocket, on vibrate, and check it when I have a moment free…
My supervisor tried that with me when I was leaving for a two week vacation. I was NOT in the mood for a long winded conversation, so I didn’t answer. I blocked my work number until the morning I was due to come back to work 😂. She was MAD because they wanted me to come back to work early . I asked her why she didn’t come back early from her 2 1/2 week vacation from Hawaii when another supervisor quit 😂. She said that was different. I told her mine was different too. They never called me again while I was off.
When training for my current job, we were instructed to say no to anyone asking us to do things outside of our work hours. If they ask again, we are supposed to report them to HR. I love my job. 😂
What company do you work for? Oh and are you in the USA?
Companies only have to treat their employees like decent human beings to reach the top
"Do you want to see the contract?" was such a power move. 😂
I had a manager tell me, years ago in the '80s, if the owner wanted him "on call" like a doctor, then he could pay him like a doctor.
1880s?
@@dc1397You’re ignorant
Exactly 😂😂
Veronica is my hero.
She's everyone's hero ❤❤🎉🎉
I LOVE her. I pray she doesn't get anyone fired! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
so sad all these animators steal the script from the real veronica (she's a real person not a cartoon)
It’s mad she is a hero not for breaking her contract of employment in some anti corporate vigilante style but for simply sticking to it.
My mother was an operating room nurse for most of her career. She was "on call" for many nights and weekends and had to be reachable and able to get to work within 30 minutes. It could be inconvenient, but she was paid for her time. If that's what you need from your wage slaves, then pay for it.
On call pay is almost always bs tho, but at least it is something to acknowledge you are working fir them.
And it's to save people too. It's not just for company profits.
💯💯💯
Same as my mother. If I'm not paid, I don't answer.
That’s what my first minimum wage job wanted. He’d send you home when it wasn’t busy then call you back to save labor. This was for pizza 😂 Never once paid to be “on call”
It’s called wage theft each time they call you after hours and refuse to pay you. Document the amount of time over a month’s period and submit an invoice for the hours that need to be paid. If they’re unwilling to pay, explain that you will be reporting the company to the labor department for wage theft including the documented hours that were previously invoiced.
Never thought of doing it that way, good idea
They will pay but they will also terminate your contract afterwards… or watch you like a hawk and when you mess up terminate you. Currently looking into countering that
@@sondowultimatethat’s called retaliation.
@@MoistOwlettes @sondowultimate Yep, if they terminate a contract after whistleblowing, it's definitely called retaliation, also against Federal Law once an employee has turned a company in for committing federally illegal acts.
However, the company can watch the employee closely and, if the employee isn't performing the job in the way they expect, they can go through proper steps and paperwork, such as enacting a PIP program, before terminating the employee. After whistleblowing, the company must follow and document all steps before terminating the employee to avoid retaliation issues.
The one exception is layoffs. If the company is downsizing, they can layoff a number of people including a whistleblower, and that's not considered retaliation... so long as more than one person is terminated at the same time.
It's a little crazy for a company to willfully craft a large layoff situation just to terminate one employee, but anything's possible when crazy executives are involved.
😂 what a 🤡 comment
Veronica ain’t the one to try & pull a fast one over on. She is following her work’s contract to the letter. She doesn’t break any rules, she doesn’t make waves, she doesn’t gossip, she doesn’t do anything against the company’s SOPs, she stays in her lane, she is probably the best representative of an employee that businesses hate because she knows her worth & she will not be taken advantage of
She makes waves but only the good kind. Standing up to toxic supervisors trying to violate her rights.
Unfortunately, in the real world, if you were to defend yourself like Veronica, they invent some unrelated reason to fire you. Firing you for not complying with an unlawful order is a retaliation lawsuit.
But oops, no, you're getting fired because your position is being "outsourced" or because you were 3 minutes late twice in one month 🤪
Veronica is the role model.
They always use that "team player" BS when they want to work you for free.
Always reframe the comment as: “unless I’m mistaken it sounds to me you’re attempting to exploit me right now by insisting, demanding when, that I not only be on call but work for free. To be clear here, is that what you are asking of me?”
If we all acted like Veroncia we would all have a better work/life balance. When one of us gives ourselves away, it hurts us all..
Not really. People who think like Veronica are one of the reasons things have gotten so bad in the work place. Activist/entitled behavior causing employers to not hire. Congratulations to your generation. You idiots took activism from previous generations. Water it down. You managed to bankrupt the small mom and pop shops, Though, the large chains just tank the cost from hiring entitled less productive young people.
It's true. But unfortunately in real life, people like Veronica get fired just for standing up for themselves. I should know. I've been dealing with these situations all of my life. The only employees that can act this way without the fear of retaliation are part of a union.
It's that attitude of "everyone has to do what I think is best" that's actually hurting us all. It's people like you who have made it so that PTO becomes "use it or lose it" when some people prefer to just have a bunch of it paid out.
People are different, they have different priorities. It's fine to negotiate around giving up rights you don't care about without it affecting anyone else.
It’s not the end of the world to answer a quick phone call after work, or to keep your cell phone on vibrate in your pocket while at work & check it if you get a call/text from family… There’s a balance for both scenarios…
Amen
WAIT!!!! It's the "I'm sure it makes sense to someone" FOR ME!!!😂😂😂😂😂 PERIOD!!!!
Hearing "if that makes sense" from managers is a red flag for me. It's intended to make you want to agree so that you don't seem too stupid to understand what they're saying. But you need to squash that urge and say it doesn't make sense to you, "because it sounds like you're saying..." and then restate what they just asserted, but in a way that highlights their BS.
Also don't say "it SOUNDS like you're saying." Have confidence in what you are accusing them of and tell them directly. Then double down, no matter how good their rebuttal is. Don't worry, their rebuttal will likely be pure crap.
But if you don't have a backup plan and/or you're afraid to lose this job, then there's a 99% chance you've already lost the argument. That's the only power employers hold. People are too afraid to go job hunting and they don't have a savings account. You can always network while you have a job too, ya know.
Nothing is so important or time sensitive that it can't wait for the next day
Unless you are literally doing an on call job and saving lives, it is never thar serious
And if it is, the manager can deal with it since they are so important.
Agreed
Depends on the field, but in most circumstances, yes I agree
I had that talk with my old boss. He wanted me available on my of hours for questions and such. I told him I only work while clocked in, and if he wanted me to answer the phone on my of hours, he would need to give me a 40% raise on my yearly income and make me salary. I told him I will answer every time after that. He declined and that was the end of it lol.
_"How do we fix this?"_
One of two ways:
1) Pay my regular hourly rate each night from 5-10 pm, or
2) Pay me a minimum of 2 hours overtime per phone call after 5 pm.
I love the “modern manager speak” in these videos.
My husband was a salaried employee at a company. He was on call 24-7… It was expected and known when he took the job.
He quit and moved on to a different employer. Hilariously he was getting calls for more than a MONTH after he was no longer employed. They were calling his personal cell as his work cell was no longer connected. He very nicely emailed and said if they want him to Consult what his fee and minimum hours billed would be. He never got another call 😂!
These things are hilarious, from graphic design to script to vocals. Exceptionally well done.
Nah, just go straight to the _”so, you want me to do extra work for free?”_
I worked in Dubai and my french boss called me always on a Friday which was weekend and then I started to call him Sundays. He quickly stopped his routine…
I am retired now, but worked in customer service call center for years. Veronica is spot on. 😉
Please keep it coming, this stuff is gold.
I was a nurse manager and would call staff at home ONLY if there was a patient care issue that we couldn't figure out on our own. Like it was unclear if a timed antibiotic was given or not.
Patient safety comes first, but very few of my staff EVER got called.
These companies have the audacity to have access to us off the clock? Yeaaa no.
“You should be available at all hours, for free”.
Riiight 😂😂😂😂
“There’s always a solution” 😂
The corporate world expects you to comply with these one-sided relationships with the possibility of promotion or giving you a raise but, when that doesn't happen you experience a bitter moment of epiphany.
Back in the 80’s corporations convinced Congress they didn’t need to be legislated to know their place and convinced workers that unions were a waste of money because, of course, they would do the right thing by their employees. Once they paid off Congress with lobbying dollars and busted the unions they systematically eroded workers on every front. Instead of paying workers thriving wages and often times even living wages, vacations, sick pay, full pensions, etc., they cancelled all of that AND fired long term workers to hire new workers at cheaper wages to keep from paying raises, etc. all of their savings goes to exorbitant CEO salaries and Wall Street investors while the worker is left to figure out how to survive from paycheck to paycheck, save enough in a retirement fund and convince the ridiculous Elephant in Congress that Social Security is a benefit and insurance that we paid for with a deduction from every paycheck and not a handout of socialism.
Unions fought for the people by both collective bargaining and lobbying Congress on behalf of their constituents which allowed them to compete for actual representation of their members instead of monopolies and conglomerates that are in fact illegal; but whose 💰 💰 💰(which are less expensive than paying taxes or employees fairly) is buying Congress who now allows them to exist and control legislative action and policy to their benefit and our detriment.
Bring back unions and bring back the power to the people, not conglomerates, special interests or genocidal foreign actors.
(Forgive my sausage fingers and tiny screen for typos and punctuations, etc. i tried to correct and hopefully it’s somewhat coherent! 🙏🏼)
Good stuff
That happened to me I had to leave for an emergency, I clocked out after getting permission to leave, I get a call to do my time sheet correctly it was not Friday, it could wait till I came back the next day, and the funny thing they tell you, you cannot have your cells out, but my manager is watching movies on her cell phone, she hides it under her desk stand, says it helps her anxiety, that's nice I suffer from PTSD, deal with screaming customers cursing me telling me they will find me and kill me but I cannot have my cell phone out or use it to help my PTSD okay got it. Lol
@@socorrozamarripa9567 ~ You get death threats?!? That's horrifying! What type of job did you have?
"Team player". Hmm. There are 3 people on my team. Me, myself and I. That usually shuts them up.
Its funny to me on how all these companies want this high level of loyalty. The company is not loyal to its employees, im just showing the same level of loyaly in return. The greed of these comoanies is fucking crazy.
Here's an doozy; in Germany, if your employer is able to reach you while you are on vacation, you have to return if they demand it. You don't have to be contactable, you don't have to check mails, you don't have to carry a company cell, but if they manage to get, say, a message to your accomodation or your private #, you have to respond. They also have to pay ALL expences and credit the time back. Also, employees have a legal obligation to take 2 contiguous weeks away from work each year and if your employeer obstructs or interrupts this time, they will get a new rectum reamed by the labour courts.
Germany sucks dude.
Can't get a message to my accommodations if I fail to mention where I'm going and can't get one to my private # if the phone's off (Burner phones are easy enough to get for vacation needs). Problem solved.
@@starchitin - Oooh, burner phones. What a *clever* idea!
@@starchitin what’s a burner phone please 🙏🏻 as I’m not paying you, you don’t have to respond lol 😂
loved " there is always a solution" i absolutely love veronica.
I will literally never get tired for these
What does the best team player get? No no, only the team owner benefits. No phones at work (like people don’t have lives), no work at home (like people don’t have good enough jobs). Find someone who’s good at what they do, establish expectation and then pay them like they were hard to find and replace. Keeping employees and keeping them happy is easy, don’t keep all the money if you can’t do all the work.
“Being a team player is dishonest and manipulative euphemism for ‘work for free’. So, I want you to grow a back bone and say it as it is. Ask me to be available to work for free for you. No? You won’t ask me that? Then this meeting is over. Expect an email recap & with HR CC’d.”
This is why we have a department of labor to keep companies in check. They want you to sell your life to them.
I will use my cellphone wherever and whenever I need to. No company is going to tell me otherwise. Nor will you get me after hours, unless I WANT to speak to you.
“I’m a team player 9-5pm” Damn! 💯
I love Veronica, she has clear work and family boundaries.❤
"I'm sure it makes sense to someone." 😂😂😂
“I’m sure it makes sense to somebody…” 😂😂
Makes sense to someone.....legendary
The benefits disappeared. The corporate greed stayed the same.
Veronica you are my spirit animal.
i'm trying to figure out who is the original creator of these I've seen so many copies and I'm confused. i prefer to support whoever has the original
Same if you ever find out let me know
the longer full story vids are awesome 😂
love Veronica's honesty
😂😂
If they have to whip out the “T” word, they’re on their last card. An actual TEAM takes care of you. This is just a group of coworkers who want to pay their bills.
Amen! Work - Life Balance! Boom!
Who needs Unions? Who we need is more Veronicas in the workplace!
The Veronica's of the early 20th century fought to create the unions.
@@michelewalburn4376 Um, I was joking......
@@AmmoDudesome people have the humor go over their head at 30 thousand feet.
This is why I quit my last job😂
My job requires me to be on call 24/7. If I get “that” call, I go on the clock and THEN get dressed.
There's always a solution... How about you don't call me outside of working hours? 😅
Should have been "my family has a strict cellphone policy, where I'm not allowed to have my company phone out, or take calls, messages, or emails from work during off hours".
Thank you for your animation. I enjoy your site. I forwarded your site to a supervisor so that when I say nothing, they are reminded of your animation shorts. Keep them coming!😂
problem is, in this scenario.....Veronica's contract is terminated. I'd be asking the boss to negotiate.
Absolutely. Just put the Frontline on salary and let them flex a bit for appointments and whatnot under the agreement that on occasion, there may be a need here and there. Or, maybe a paid on call rotation.
I wish Veronica would offer complete classes on how to deal with these," real life" job situations
I own a business and I would NEVER expect my employees to be available off the clock. I also don’t have a problem with their families contacting them during work hours if it doesn’t interfere with them completing their work. Now I am available to my employees outside of working hours, but that is my choice.
"My obligations and compensation are stipulated in my contract. If you would like to renegotiate them, I would certainly be open to that."
Always remember that you are the CEO of yourname inc, and that your employer is just like any other customer buying your services. Gratuitously providing free services for your customers is called overperforming, and it's very bad for business. In addition to not compensating for time and effort it sets the wrong expectations, setting up a precedent for future non-compensated services . That's why your employer doesn't do it, and that's why you shouldn't do it.
Overperform when it strengthens your brand. Perform free services when you get something out of it in some way, shape, or form. Pick up the phone in your free time for colleagues who need a favor, if they do the same for you. But keeping on giving and never getting anything back is not being nice or loyal or professional. It's just being a chump.
Join a union. You'll never have to put up with nonsense like that.
You'd be surprised what nonsense you have to endure with a union.
I disagree, every human being should receive the same rights and benefits….period. Unions should no longer be needed. Well, I guess America still needs them its citizens are still very unenlightened and seem to be going into reverse.
@@wendywill7519 In a perfect world, employees would all be treated fairly and with respect. Sadly, that's not the reality. The old union saying still holds true: "United we bargain. Divided we beg"'.
@@Grendelbc Perfection does not exist….but progress does in many countries. The U.S. stopped the progress of work-life balance for its employees many years ago.
U uins are terrible and bullies
Thank you for these creative examples of work life challenges and how to handle them. As a result of this type of Corporate mentality, iI use the description, "Slave drivers" and "Robber Barons". Folks who think they're entitled to whatever they want (on a one-sided basis) - and want it for FREE. This has been going one throughout history but it's become RAMPANT in the U.S. again.
Veronica the staff issues Champion 🎯💯
If you want me to cut off my personal life while at work, then dont be surprised when i cut out work from my personal life
I love it "I am a team player 9-5 Monday through Friday". Making them stick to contract.
I've been in outside sales for decades, and used to be one of those "always available" employees. Gave that up a few years back after my dad died. Suddenly became clear that life balance isn't a catch phrase, you need to exercise your right to turn work off. I never work while on vaca, never on weekends, and almost never after business hours. Sorry west coast.
If everyone was like Veronica we wouldn’t have unfair treatment on the workplace.😂
Veronica is my new hero.
Veronica's opening statement was amazing. Well put.
Can't wait to deal with this when i join the civ div
Good for you Veronica ❤
“You’re” contract? It’s the company’s contract. The company has to obey the rules too. Not just the employees.
It’s a pet peeve of mine when people punctuate each sentence with “did that make sense ? Are they that unsure of their communication skills or have they had a stroke 🤔
I will certainly do it, especially when it comes to making things exactly how i want it. If someone doesn’t like what i am saying, they will say it does not make sense. More like a "do you agree to follow my terms?" Than what is said.
Its a bad habbit im working on breaking. Ive relised that for me it comes from feeling i need to justify my feelings and actions as well as the fact that I brought it up in the first place.
There is allso a inscure part of me that feels like i need to ask permition for feeling.
I have a deep fear of being missunderstood. Ive relised that have this childish belief that if i can explain everything perfectly mabey I wont be punished. Im working on it in therpy.
@@inflightb4563 I’m impressed. Putting in the work to change things. Wishing you all the best.
Thanks
It sounds very condescending; implying that the person that they’re asking is slow or stupid.
And since this is a "AT WILL" state for employment we will be letting you go now. You can pick up your last check in HR. Thanks so much.
I'm going to agree with the no cell phones at work. Too many people are playing games on their phones while being paid to work. I always had mine with the ringer turned off if I had a personal emergency going on or in my locker.
As far as being called outside of work about work related things, NO! I mean they can call me to ask if I'm willing to come in to work but anything else can wait!
Veronica had a contract so if she is a 1099 contractor she shouldn’t be required to do anything other than work hours.
Hourly employees have to deal with this same nonsense. My boss called me into her office once and demanded to know why I didn't respond to her texts/calls on days I hadn't been scheduled to work, to which I simply responded that I was busy. After berating me about how important the messages were (they weren't) and that I needed to at least respond that I'd received them, I told her that if she needed access to me outside the hours on the schedule, I needed to be paid to be on call. Otherwise, I would answer and/or return calls at my discretion outside hours I was scheduled to work. I haven't heard another word about it since.
Boomers hate that mellinials actually value thier personal time.
_"Gee, I have lousy cellphone reception at home, that I need to go outside on my front porch to get even 1 bar."_
Veronica’s family should treasure her.
Lol, that's meee! I never answered my cell after hours.
I am a team player 9 till 5 Mon to Fri.
Funny how employers have expectations of working abit extra for free.
Working 3rd shift the daytime managers/supervisors would text us on our personal phones, none of us cared and would text back asap. These as sh*les started demanding to know why we didn't text back immediately... ah it is called SLEEP.... Something majorly important for us to have lives in our hands.... After that I removed my phone numbers from all contact forms.... Pissed them off
I had a job, and I became management, if I was contacted at home while off work on my company cell phone, I got a minimum of 30 minutes pay for talking to them... only ever happened three times, the third time I actually had to go back so I end up with 6 hours of overtime because of what they did.
Key words and phrases that are red flags and stress inducers:
1) Team Player
2) Synergy
3) fight clu….sorry not aloud to talk about that one
When they need you to explain to you what they said they are just manipulating you to comply
Manager’s mouth looks like the Amazon arrow
At which point, they start making and taking any excuse to do write ups to create a paper trail and fire you for other reasons not related to this conversation and thus not retaliation.
I was out on Medical leave after having a surgery. Compliance trainings were due while I was out. My manager had the audacity to try and call me in to do my compliance modules. No. It was infuriating. What if I was in Mexico on vacation?? Would she have called me in then? Just because I was "home" she thought that would be ok.
I worked for a company that had a Veronica. Rather than penalize her for not following company policy, they would punish the entire work group by implementing some new arbitrary rule.
I don’t work there anymore.😂
I was regularly called late at night or early in the morning to answer questions that arose. It took filing a grievance. Now, if they call, I get a 3 hour call out at time and a half.
What contract? Says guy from Right to Work State.
Veronica is like a boss👍🏻👍🏻👌🏻 when dealing with bosses✅MATE
Yes ...I love this👏👏👏❤
Most of these issues are caused by these petty managers not the company itself. The managers make life miserable for People on their own and the company doesn’t always know about it.
#truthVeronica you better tell her Veronica keep it 💯....🙌🙌🙌
😂😂😂😂love Veronika my gosh❤❤❤