I keep coming back to this video. Got a gaming laptop of my choice as a graduation gift (3070), got the cooling stand, got the money saved up for the Quest 3. I cant wait to get into VR :)))
There are also power stages in laptops that you might want to enable. Some laptops have their CPUs set to run to 25W for example even though it may be capable of 35W. You can configure this in the BIOS.
The 3080/3080 ti laptops are useful for vrchat more than the few percent performance gain in most games. The 16gb of vram is very useful when in worlds with 20+ people all with very poor avatars. Loading them all quickly maxes out the vram. With 16gb you get less stutters when turning and viewing different groups of avatars since it can keep more of them in memory. Also good to undervolt the cpu and raise the max core frequency, vrchat is often cpu limited
The 16gb vram laptops seemed really hard to attain based on my research so I excluded them. They seem like beasts though, I easily max out the vram on my 3070 8gb vram laptop.
this was the most helpful thing i've ever come across in my life. trying to ask people what laptop to use only to be met with "just use PC omfg" was so frustrating and i just felt like i was a complete idiot. this lowkey saved my life, thanks for this
I was going to buy a gaming pc for the exact same purpose of VR for like 800 bucks but then I saw that I could buy a laptop that could do the exact same thing except for the cooling 😅
I was planning to buy a laptop next year or so beacuse I think the school is requiring us to use it for AutoCAD. I want my laptop to handle the worst of the worst which is VRC, thank you for this video. I also subbed because you are really great at explaining
long time pcvrchat user get big Vram, when Vram is full, doesnt matter how good your cpu gpu is, lag is just gonna be out of this world. just replaced my 10G3080 with a 4080, night and day difference now.
I7 9700 and 2070 maxq is my laptop and it run vrc well enough. Main rig is 12900k and 4080 desktop though. You can get by with a laptop for your dedicated setup but it does have some sacrifices.
I really needed this vídeo 3 years ago when I bought my laptop, I'm playing vrchat with a gtx1660ti and an i5 10400H, I can play, but the frame rate can't go over 32 fps because it lags really bad, trust this user, he's spilling good quality info here
@@cid_vrc No, thank you for the information, it was very helpful, and your tier list are amazingly good, I will definitely follow it for my pc, not for the technical component parts info, but the vrc vram usage by the game
I am 100% a desktop gamer, but when I do play on my laptop I have a solution to heat. I hook up a monitor to mirror my laptops native monitor, then just knock over my laptop on its back so the vents are more exposed. It definitely runs cooler. No fancy stand needed. VR would be the same concept as me hooking up a monitor. Just lay the laptop on it's back while you're in VR. You aren't looking at the laptop screen anyway. Disclaimer, I don't have a gaming laptop. My laptop only has an i7-1165G7 and Intel Iris XE Graphics, so it doesn't actually get too hot to begin with. I just notice the fans not kicking up as high when I do lay it back, and MSI Afterburner reporting 5 degrees cooler than the regular orientation. I usually have a solid 80 degrees when gaming, but when laying it back I will see it drop as low as 75. That's impressive when you have a little baby fan because the CPU was not meant to be under that much stress. And no. I'm not a masochist for trying to play games on Iris XE. I only do it when I don't have access to my desktop. Sidenote. 25fps is the absolute lowest I've seen on my laptop in VRC.
Before my hiatus it ran pretty well for me on a i7-9750H and RTX 2070 Max Q with a few tweaks to safety settings with a Samsung Odyssey+. Unfortunately since then my laptop gave up the ghost so now I'm looking into re-purposing my spare desktop parts instead.
I have a Lenovo Legion i7 and for some reason on PCVR with a Quest 3 at "recommended" resolution scale is only getting me 20-30 fps in highly optimized and empty rooms and an unbearable 5-10 fps in poorly optimized and filled rooms. Specs below. Specs Processor: 11th gen intel core i7-11800h GPU: RTX 3080 (Laptop) RAM: 32 GB Kind of at a loss. I'm suspecting that my performance is getting reduced due to overheating. But I don't know.
I didn't know VRchat is such a graphics demanding game, considering it was launched back in Early 2014 (10 years ago). I recently got a new gaming laptop (not for VRchat), but for other games like "Witcher 3", "NieR: Automata", "Elden Ring", etc. For about US $1,250 (at the time when I bought it 4 months ago), I got a Laptop with 1TB SSD storage, 16GB DDR5 RAM, i7-12650H CPU (10 cores, up to 16 threads maximum), RTX 4060 [8GB Vram with 105watts TGP (total graphics power)]. Computer Heat shouldn't be a problem for me, as my laptop has 2 built-in exhaust fans (just like most other Gaming Laptops out there). The reason why I chose RTX 4060 was because it was a newer GPU with "DLSS 3", which is good for offline games for extra frame generations (if needed). Anyways, even though my laptop may be able to handle most offline AAA games. But after watching your video, it seems like my laptop can barely run VRchat (on Ultra High Graphics Setting, with all those avatars with 15,000 polygons each).
Well this video is mostly aimed at people who want to play in VR mode, meaning connecting their Quest 3 or something. If you just want to play in desktop mode ("flat" mode), most gaming laptops can easily do it and load a lot of avatars. But VR mode is a whole different beast!
This video is actually pretty accurate. Was about to say something AMD laptops, but you do have it spot on lmao. I think the only AMD GPUs I can really recommend are the RX6800 M or S anyway. The 3070TI'Ss probably the best GPU that one can find for what it is. It's really just a mildly lesser 3080 8GB. Intel+Nvidia's definitively the way to go for power and productivity unless AMD's offerings good. Funnily enough, one of the thing about the Desktop Vs. Laptop that isn't related to power or cost is that desktops have a "smarter" detection of GPUs utilized with VR. MUX switches in laptops are the "workaround" for Oculus Home or the SteamVR Dashboard in ALVR. Can't really work around this with my ROG G15 AE beside diving into Virtual Desktop (Great application tho).
@@cid_vrc It's something that allows the user to disable the integrated graphics so that the computer runs off entirely from the dedicated graphics card. While it does consume more power for regular use, it's a non-issue for gaming since it'll be a performance gain to not have the iGPU active. Beside that, having two graphic solution (iGPU + dGPU) seems to break a few things. Not too major, but enough to have someone use VD over ALVR just because the desktop dashboard doesn't work in the latter.
Awesome. I have an older laptop (10th generation i7) with an RTX 3070 and thought it only had 4 gigabytes of memory. I checked after watching your video and am happy to see 8 gigabytes. Does system memory affect VRChat?
I think I've got the same intel and RTX specifications as you. I'll let him answer your question tho, cause I have no idea what the answer to that is, although I have a suspicion that the whatever-it's-called cache is probably crucial for dealing with crappy performance(especially when dealing with player models?).
@@cid_vrc in all seriousness I have a Razer blade 17 pro with an i7 11900 and an RTX 3070 8gb and the game runs “very well”. But honestly it doesn’t run specifically better than my desktop pc with an i5 10400 and a 1660 super
little bit out of topic, but i had problems with my 3080TI in VRC it felt laggy and all it was all coz temps.. i was around 80°C so it was underclocking already, well i sold it to someone and got 4090 now still feels laggy but my GPU runs around 40°C :D VRC is just soooooo unoptimized :/
I'm actually thinking of getting the ROG Ally and getting the XG Mobile eGPU RTX 4090. Not for VR specifically since it'll mostly be used for couch gaming, but I wonder if that will be good enough for some Quest 2 VRChat through Virtual Desktop? Yes I know it's the laptop GPU version, no need to tell me.
i wonder how the quest 3 coming soon would perform, i read it will have twice the built-in processing power of quest 2, albeit a tad more expensive, but paired with a fairly good laptop? it might be a surprisingly good setup, since the new headset can take more of the heavy computing off the laptop, so good luck!
Unfortunately headsets cannot make your laptop faster. All they do is stream a video of your VR game to your headset. So there's no difference between quest 2 and 3 for PC VR games. Maybe you can open the oculus link dashboard in your headset faster. That's it.
So i have been thinking about getting a laptop with either a 4070, 3070 ti or 3080 ti from best buy and wanted to ask about recommendations. Also are the new intel core ultra CPUs good for VR and vrchat or should I get something else.
I made step 3's mistake I was so sad, not for vr chat but saved up a lot to get a gaming laptop then like 5 months later it breaks because it overheated the motherboard or something and now im too busy with rent to save up enough for a new laptop definitely need a laptop cooler hahaha
Hey there ! I'm wanting to start a vr TH-cam channel and I'm wondering if you could teach me how you record the video of you talking to the camera in vrchat.
if im getting a VR for the first time, and my laptop aint exactly for gaming purposes, should i get a meta quest 2?, its def cheaper than getting a new laptop + VR, nice video btw
100% yes! If you look in the video thumbnail, that's my Meta Quest 2. You can use it by itself, or connect to a computer over wifi like I do. It's whatever you want. amzn.to/3TUsfj9
I start thinking can it works with 3050 TI (Mobile) and i5 11th generation and start worry about HTC that said me in test programm "You may face problem with your videocard"
First one here... and being the first one here, I must ask an obvious question... VR Chat Transformation by Cid, what is the meaning and origin behind(yup, behind the meme reference) your name? Did you get converted from x to z? Not liking anime, to liking anime? Or not liking VR Chat to liking it? I'm curious... P.S. I'm 20 years old(mildly ASD and with a recent(within the past 2 years) diagnosis of ADHD), probably within the age bracket of people you'd help... I can't help but wonder though... would you still help people who used to be in said age demographic 10 years later? Of course, a lot can change in 10 years(like whether or not media platforms like VR Chat still exist or not)... people will treat you like you're more intelligent than you actually are, and when you don't know something, you're considered an idiot... maybe...
It's called VRChat Transformation because in VRChat (and online in general) we can reinvent ourselves and become all new people if we try! That's right, maybe real life is hard for some people, but online you can just forget about all of that and be happy, if you let yourself be. So I just want to be positive and entertaining while talking about the current game I'm obsessed with (VRChat). I don't understand the 2nd part of your question. You're asking if I'd help 30-40 year olds? Sure, why not? If I can help them lol.
Thank you for the response! Tbh, I'm not really a fan of, well, reinventing myself, atleast more than once that is... well, atleast, not where people can hear my voice and all that... and also, I suppose my anxiety is at a level where basically, I'd like to sound proof my entire room so nobody can hear me BEFORE I do any stupid things like changing the sound of my voice... and even when nobodies home, said need/desire blocks my ability to really let me let go entirely of my real life surroundings and all that... Thus, I'm kind of internally jealous all the time of the VR Chat success stories for introverts... meanwhile, I'm still inside my own headspace and not free to share headspace with anyone else because I'm fundamentally not allowed to or something is just different about me... or something along those lines.
My last 2019 laptop already legion Y545 and it run VR and heavy AAA games with annoyingly laggy because it's bad thermal dissipation design (big engine with poor cooling)
Do you think the 2022 msi gt77 titan with a 3070ti 96gb of ddr5 and has a 12800hx cpu, as well as 3.5tb's of gen 4 storage will suffice? I am considering getting a vr headset, but I want to make sure I have an actual viable option.
That's better than the one I showed in the video! But you'll still have to turn down the settings a bit if you doing heavy VR. It's still a laptop, not a desktop after all.
Heyy I just upgraded my laptop to a i7 12700h CPU and 3060 GPU and I think it will do much better then my old one what do you think? I also ordered 2 base stations 1.0 and 3 trackers 3.0 and am just waiting on them to come. I’m just wondering though, how do u get all of the dongles for the trackers to fit when there are only like 2 USB ports on the laptop lol. Can u lmk which type of extension hub I should get for usbs on my laptop, also do you think getting valve index controllers are worth it, I’m gonna run a quest 2 so I need to get the 3rd party dongles for those as well if I decide to buy them.
I think the Quest 2 controllers are pretty good. All controllers start to wear down after hundreds of hours, so yeah. No need to look for any other controllers. Anker has always been reliable for me for hubs and stuff. Link: amzn.to/3ksy7DR And I know it's a lot to buy but... the hubs that go in the computer aren't for charging. That's why I have one for the computer and one that goes into the wall for charging. Link: amzn.to/3XNgSeR It's a bit of a rabbit hole, but these should take care of your USB needs for your trackers! Legally required disclaimer: As an Amazon Associate I may earn from qualifying purchases made through my links.
I was wondering what type of vr headset + controlers is the best price to features. i checked htc vive, quest 2 and valve index and i don't know which one would be the best
I love my quest 2! People hate on it because of Facebook, but it actually has a higher screen resolution than the index at less than half the cost. I'm completely satisfied with it😃
Would the recommended laptops and specs work for VRChat if you wanted to go to raves/events? I asked someone and they said they recommend a desktop with VRAM of atleast 64 GB, because apparently the scale of said raves/events can be massive. Is this true, if so should I just work on building a desktop then?
You don't need a desktop, but you will have to hide a lot of avatars if your computer isn't strong. So if you want to see a lot of people vibing and dancing around you, yeah you need a desktop. If you are okay with just seeing a small amount of people around you, you can use a weaker computer. It also depends on if the club enforces avatar optimization rules.
@@cid_vrc Thanks for the info! I'm used to hiding avatars at a certain distance as I am Quest standalone and have been saving up for a PC for awhile, but I mainly hate lag the most. How does optimization affect a laptops performance, if you don't mind me asking?
Do you know buy chance if I can run vrchat fullbody with a 3050 ti gpu and ryzen 7 5800H cpu buying that cooling stand you mentioned? I know the 3050 ti only has 4 gb VRAM which obvously isn't great, but I tried connecting my quest 2 through link cable and it ran simillar to my desktop with a 1660 super. I don't have much of an option though because I'm moving out and I can't bring my desktop with me so I was tinking of running FBT with my 3050 ti, what do you think?
Full body tracking doesn't take extra computer power, as long as it recognizes your gear, you're fine. Just keep your computer cool and rock what you have! Also hide any avatars that you find are laggy lol.
@@owlsunderscore7301 I have a flow z13 with i9 and 3050 ti and have no issue with Slimevr trackers. I plan on getting the rtx 4090 xg mobile Egpu that was just announced ^^
Let's see... I've got a Nitro 5 Acer Windows 11 PC with 16 GB of installed ram(plus an optional HDD slot for ram or something I think), and support for Nvidia 3070(Or 3050 I think)... it's pretty good at dealing with lots of particles and stuff you'd use to crash people, but for some reason it don't work well with player models(and my headset/PC does the whole repeating image thing when I lag sometimes, aswell as vision going a singular color in one eye, but what can ya do)... Wonder if that cache thing you were talking about on the tier list you made could fix/make it less of a pain... hmm... Sorry if I addressed things again that didn't need to be addressed or are already issues considered resolved... Some things just work for me and that's all I care about... as for the things that don't work for me, well, I get hung up on them and eventually forget after enough time until the next time I want to...
i have an hp pavilion with an intel core i5 and an nvidia GTX 1660 ti with max Q mobile, with linux mint as my os (i run windows games just fine) ive been told it can run vrchat in vr mode but havent tested it yet since i havent goten my quest 2 yet
alongside my pc I have this hp pavilion laptop, its a i5 8th gen with 16GB of ram, and a 1050ti with I think 4GB of Vram. its fine usually. doesn't really do new games. games from 2016 do run well. VRchat also runs fine, just not for VR. my pc however I built over the last couple years. i7 9500k, 4x8(32GB) of RAM, and a 3080ti. it runs very well.
@cid_vrc ah ok I was thinking about looking Into that one right now my labtop has. RTX 1650 it's older but it can still holds its own but I am looking for a upgrade
@@cid_vrc Hello thanks for replying but I sold the laptop and planning to buy a gaming computer 16GB RAM 2666HZ NVME storage RED DEVIL RT 6700 XT i5 10400f. Will I be able to VRCHAT I also heard that AMD does not work well with Airlink and VRChat so I'm a bit worried I use a Quest 2
@@cid_vrc i received the computer already 💀💀💀 airlink doesn't work as good and ALVR gives bad quality and high latency the only choice for me is ReliveVR with muddy quality.. I do know Virtual Desktop exist but not sure if it will work... Also when I VR my GPU and CPU doesn't use full utilization like 50% gpu usage I wonder if that's normal.
That’s the magic of the Quest 2 is that it is a standalone but it is also just waiting to surf on off of one’s PC and get an instant EVOLUTION *pokemon intensifies*
Did you make sure to set the application to "high performance mode" in windows? That should solve issues where it uses the APU instead of the GPU. You might also be able to disable the IGPU in the BIOS.
@@SixPie it probably wasn't driver related as usually it's not that a program can't run at all with driver issues unless the drivers are like super super super crap
@@ErrorRaffyline0 It can most likely was the driver because AMD didn't have great drivers for Windows back then. Most likely of been a DirectX issue in the driver I use a fairly old AMD GPU and VRChat works perfectly fine now. Btw the program usually crashes or has very weird graphical errors with broken drivers.
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I actually can't believe how under rated this is... For some reason I actually feel like I understand computer parts now haha
Thanks! I did a lot of research for this vid so share it with friends if you think they would find it helpful. 😆
@@cid_vrc yeah i can tell you didnt already know any of this
I keep coming back to this video. Got a gaming laptop of my choice as a graduation gift (3070), got the cooling stand, got the money saved up for the Quest 3. I cant wait to get into VR :)))
Welcome to VR 😄
I play VRChat with a 3060 laptop in vr mode and I've been doing so for a year, it does get laggy sometimes but all in all, I've been happy with it
My 3070 laptop can struggle a bit around 10 people. I think my friends avatars are just really unoptimized!
There are also power stages in laptops that you might want to enable. Some laptops have their CPUs set to run to 25W for example even though it may be capable of 35W. You can configure this in the BIOS.
I’ll look at mine
The 3080/3080 ti laptops are useful for vrchat more than the few percent performance gain in most games. The 16gb of vram is very useful when in worlds with 20+ people all with very poor avatars. Loading them all quickly maxes out the vram. With 16gb you get less stutters when turning and viewing different groups of avatars since it can keep more of them in memory. Also good to undervolt the cpu and raise the max core frequency, vrchat is often cpu limited
The 16gb vram laptops seemed really hard to attain based on my research so I excluded them. They seem like beasts though, I easily max out the vram on my 3070 8gb vram laptop.
You mean like…. Badly optimized and janky avatars?
@@cid_vrcthat sounds like a workstation laptop opposed to a gaming laptop
this was the most helpful thing i've ever come across in my life. trying to ask people what laptop to use only to be met with "just use PC omfg" was so frustrating and i just felt like i was a complete idiot. this lowkey saved my life, thanks for this
I was going to buy a gaming pc for the exact same purpose of VR for like 800 bucks but then I saw that I could buy a laptop that could do the exact same thing except for the cooling 😅
Your videos are amazing, totally underrated. Thanks, hope I can meet you in vrchat one day
I was planning to buy a laptop next year or so beacuse I think the school is requiring us to use it for AutoCAD.
I want my laptop to handle the worst of the worst which is VRC, thank you for this video.
I also subbed because you are really great at explaining
Thanks for the sub!
Am looking towards getting vr of my own and this video was really helpful! Thanks! :]
long time pcvrchat user
get big Vram, when Vram is full, doesnt matter how good your cpu gpu is, lag is just gonna be out of this world.
just replaced my 10G3080 with a 4080, night and day difference now.
I7 9700 and 2070 maxq is my laptop and it run vrc well enough. Main rig is 12900k and 4080 desktop though. You can get by with a laptop for your dedicated setup but it does have some sacrifices.
I really needed this vídeo 3 years ago when I bought my laptop, I'm playing vrchat with a gtx1660ti and an i5 10400H, I can play, but the frame rate can't go over 32 fps because it lags really bad, trust this user, he's spilling good quality info here
Thanks for the praise! lol
@@cid_vrc No, thank you for the information, it was very helpful, and your tier list are amazingly good, I will definitely follow it for my pc, not for the technical component parts info, but the vrc vram usage by the game
I am 100% a desktop gamer, but when I do play on my laptop I have a solution to heat. I hook up a monitor to mirror my laptops native monitor, then just knock over my laptop on its back so the vents are more exposed. It definitely runs cooler. No fancy stand needed. VR would be the same concept as me hooking up a monitor. Just lay the laptop on it's back while you're in VR. You aren't looking at the laptop screen anyway.
Disclaimer, I don't have a gaming laptop. My laptop only has an i7-1165G7 and Intel Iris XE Graphics, so it doesn't actually get too hot to begin with. I just notice the fans not kicking up as high when I do lay it back, and MSI Afterburner reporting 5 degrees cooler than the regular orientation. I usually have a solid 80 degrees when gaming, but when laying it back I will see it drop as low as 75. That's impressive when you have a little baby fan because the CPU was not meant to be under that much stress.
And no. I'm not a masochist for trying to play games on Iris XE. I only do it when I don't have access to my desktop. Sidenote. 25fps is the absolute lowest I've seen on my laptop in VRC.
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That makes me so happy! Thanks :D
Before my hiatus it ran pretty well for me on a i7-9750H and RTX 2070 Max Q with a few tweaks to safety settings with a Samsung Odyssey+. Unfortunately since then my laptop gave up the ghost so now I'm looking into re-purposing my spare desktop parts instead.
Me with my 3 year old laptop with a i7 10750h and an RTX 2060🥲
I have a Lenovo Legion i7 and for some reason on PCVR with a Quest 3 at "recommended" resolution scale is only getting me 20-30 fps in highly optimized and empty rooms and an unbearable 5-10 fps in poorly optimized and filled rooms. Specs below.
Specs
Processor: 11th gen intel core i7-11800h
GPU: RTX 3080 (Laptop)
RAM: 32 GB
Kind of at a loss. I'm suspecting that my performance is getting reduced due to overheating. But I don't know.
I didn't know VRchat is such a graphics demanding game, considering it was launched back in Early 2014 (10 years ago). I recently got a new gaming laptop (not for VRchat), but for other games like "Witcher 3", "NieR: Automata", "Elden Ring", etc.
For about US $1,250 (at the time when I bought it 4 months ago), I got a Laptop with 1TB SSD storage, 16GB DDR5 RAM, i7-12650H CPU (10 cores, up to 16 threads maximum), RTX 4060 [8GB Vram with 105watts TGP (total graphics power)]. Computer Heat shouldn't be a problem for me, as my laptop has 2 built-in exhaust fans (just like most other Gaming Laptops out there). The reason why I chose RTX 4060 was because it was a newer GPU with "DLSS 3", which is good for offline games for extra frame generations (if needed).
Anyways, even though my laptop may be able to handle most offline AAA games. But after watching your video, it seems like my laptop can barely run VRchat (on Ultra High Graphics Setting, with all those avatars with 15,000 polygons each).
Well this video is mostly aimed at people who want to play in VR mode, meaning connecting their Quest 3 or something. If you just want to play in desktop mode ("flat" mode), most gaming laptops can easily do it and load a lot of avatars. But VR mode is a whole different beast!
This video is actually pretty accurate. Was about to say something AMD laptops, but you do have it spot on lmao. I think the only AMD GPUs I can really recommend are the RX6800 M or S anyway. The 3070TI'Ss probably the best GPU that one can find for what it is. It's really just a mildly lesser 3080 8GB. Intel+Nvidia's definitively the way to go for power and productivity unless AMD's offerings good.
Funnily enough, one of the thing about the Desktop Vs. Laptop that isn't related to power or cost is that desktops have a "smarter" detection of GPUs utilized with VR. MUX switches in laptops are the "workaround" for Oculus Home or the SteamVR Dashboard in ALVR. Can't really work around this with my ROG G15 AE beside diving into Virtual Desktop (Great application tho).
What's a MUX switch again? XD
@@cid_vrc It's something that allows the user to disable the integrated graphics so that the computer runs off entirely from the dedicated graphics card. While it does consume more power for regular use, it's a non-issue for gaming since it'll be a performance gain to not have the iGPU active. Beside that, having two graphic solution (iGPU + dGPU) seems to break a few things. Not too major, but enough to have someone use VD over ALVR just because the desktop dashboard doesn't work in the latter.
Awesome. I have an older laptop (10th generation i7) with an RTX 3070 and thought it only had 4 gigabytes of memory. I checked after watching your video and am happy to see 8 gigabytes. Does system memory affect VRChat?
I think I've got the same intel and RTX specifications as you. I'll let him answer your question tho, cause I have no idea what the answer to that is, although I have a suspicion that the whatever-it's-called cache is probably crucial for dealing with crappy performance(especially when dealing with player models?).
Yeah, ram affects vrchat. It's not the most important thing, but my laptop usually almost fills up 16GB when I monitor it.
Would a i7 11800 3060 be good?
@@cid_vrc specifically the Acer predator triton model.
I think ill just make a pc slowly and just get laptop for smaller games like gta and use my quest for vrc
this guy teach you if you wanna play vrchat like a boss
Desktop mode players, how is your laptop's performance?
I'm running at 42069
@@lilkg69 That's really hot!
@@cid_vrc in all seriousness I have a Razer blade 17 pro with an i7 11900 and an RTX 3070 8gb and the game runs “very well”. But honestly it doesn’t run specifically better than my desktop pc with an i5 10400 and a 1660 super
As someone with only a Lenovo thinkpad wide laptop this video zu gotta try and trust
Lol
little bit out of topic, but i had problems with my 3080TI in VRC it felt laggy and all it was all coz temps.. i was around 80°C so it was underclocking already, well i sold it to someone and got 4090 now still feels laggy but my GPU runs around 40°C :D VRC is just soooooo unoptimized :/
I know NOTHING about this stuff:,) I just wanna play VRchat with my friend and see her avi for once:,) I just need an exact laptop
I'm actually thinking of getting the ROG Ally and getting the XG Mobile eGPU RTX 4090. Not for VR specifically since it'll mostly be used for couch gaming, but I wonder if that will be good enough for some Quest 2 VRChat through Virtual Desktop? Yes I know it's the laptop GPU version, no need to tell me.
Sounds good to me, as long as your CPU is strong enough!
Hey bro i have 8gb and a intel uhd 600 and my vrchat is about 25 fps lowest was 15
i'm currently saving up for a laptop with a 4060 in it. hopefully it's worth it.
i wonder how the quest 3 coming soon would perform, i read it will have twice the built-in processing power of quest 2, albeit a tad more expensive, but paired with a fairly good laptop? it might be a surprisingly good setup, since the new headset can take more of the heavy computing off the laptop, so good luck!
Unfortunately headsets cannot make your laptop faster. All they do is stream a video of your VR game to your headset. So there's no difference between quest 2 and 3 for PC VR games.
Maybe you can open the oculus link dashboard in your headset faster. That's it.
Can a rtx 3050 6vran with a IntelCorei5-12450H Processor laptop run pcvr in vr chat?
So i have been thinking about getting a laptop with either a 4070, 3070 ti or 3080 ti from best buy and wanted to ask about recommendations. Also are the new intel core ultra CPUs good for VR and vrchat or should I get something else.
The outro is so dope lmaoo
I made step 3's mistake I was so sad, not for vr chat but saved up a lot to get a gaming laptop then like 5 months later it breaks because it overheated the motherboard or something and now im too busy with rent to save up enough for a new laptop definitely need a laptop cooler hahaha
I forgot where I heard it but heat is the #1 killer of electronics!
Very informational
Are you able to link the laptop you use?
why didn’t you make this video sooner 😭 my laptop just died like 3 weeks ago
Tysm
Description is gone unfortunately. Possibly can get the laptop cooler link?
The description still shows for me. Anyway here's the cooler link again: amzn.to/3jeLIy0
@@cid_vrc Thank you!
Hey there ! I'm wanting to start a vr TH-cam channel and I'm wondering if you could teach me how you record the video of you talking to the camera in vrchat.
Yo you’re really cool im subbing
Thanks! Some of the other vr channels are huge so I'm trying to be unique and stand out. Hopefully it works lol.
if im getting a VR for the first time, and my laptop aint exactly for gaming purposes, should i get a meta quest 2?, its def cheaper than getting a new laptop + VR, nice video btw
100% yes! If you look in the video thumbnail, that's my Meta Quest 2. You can use it by itself, or connect to a computer over wifi like I do. It's whatever you want.
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Bro said i play VRchat in hotels and airports so im pretty based im dead😂💀
I start thinking can it works with 3050 TI (Mobile) and i5 11th generation and start worry about HTC that said me in test programm "You may face problem with your videocard"
I literally have a laptop so I can do this
im definitely looking for a cheap 400-600$ that can handle desktop VRchat
That's all you need! Though it might be laggy if there's too many people in the world.
First one here... and being the first one here, I must ask an obvious question... VR Chat Transformation by Cid, what is the meaning and origin behind(yup, behind the meme reference) your name? Did you get converted from x to z? Not liking anime, to liking anime? Or not liking VR Chat to liking it?
I'm curious...
P.S. I'm 20 years old(mildly ASD and with a recent(within the past 2 years) diagnosis of ADHD), probably within the age bracket of people you'd help... I can't help but wonder though... would you still help people who used to be in said age demographic 10 years later? Of course, a lot can change in 10 years(like whether or not media platforms like VR Chat still exist or not)... people will treat you like you're more intelligent than you actually are, and when you don't know something, you're considered an idiot... maybe...
It's called VRChat Transformation because in VRChat (and online in general) we can reinvent ourselves and become all new people if we try! That's right, maybe real life is hard for some people, but online you can just forget about all of that and be happy, if you let yourself be. So I just want to be positive and entertaining while talking about the current game I'm obsessed with (VRChat).
I don't understand the 2nd part of your question. You're asking if I'd help 30-40 year olds? Sure, why not? If I can help them lol.
Thank you for the response! Tbh, I'm not really a fan of, well, reinventing myself, atleast more than once that is... well, atleast, not where people can hear my voice and all that... and also, I suppose my anxiety is at a level where basically, I'd like to sound proof my entire room so nobody can hear me BEFORE I do any stupid things like changing the sound of my voice... and even when nobodies home, said need/desire blocks my ability to really let me let go entirely of my real life surroundings and all that...
Thus, I'm kind of internally jealous all the time of the VR Chat success stories for introverts... meanwhile, I'm still inside my own headspace and not free to share headspace with anyone else because I'm fundamentally not allowed to or something is just different about me... or something along those lines.
My last 2019 laptop already legion Y545 and it run VR and heavy AAA games with annoyingly laggy because it's bad thermal dissipation design (big engine with poor cooling)
Thermals are so important! 😆
Hands dripped out :D
Question! Is a 3050 Ti 16GB work for vrchat? (Currently trying to become PC/Quest user)
i may buy a pc instead of a laptop in the future
Do you think the 2022 msi gt77 titan with a 3070ti 96gb of ddr5 and has a 12800hx cpu, as well as 3.5tb's of gen 4 storage will suffice? I am considering getting a vr headset, but I want to make sure I have an actual viable option.
That's better than the one I showed in the video! But you'll still have to turn down the settings a bit if you doing heavy VR. It's still a laptop, not a desktop after all.
So like you think a 3050TI might work?
I think you could play in desktop mode. VR mode is gonna be hard tho
Heyy I just upgraded my laptop to a i7 12700h CPU and 3060 GPU and I think it will do much better then my old one what do you think? I also ordered 2 base stations 1.0 and 3 trackers 3.0 and am just waiting on them to come. I’m just wondering though, how do u get all of the dongles for the trackers to fit when there are only like 2 USB ports on the laptop lol. Can u lmk which type of extension hub I should get for usbs on my laptop, also do you think getting valve index controllers are worth it, I’m gonna run a quest 2 so I need to get the 3rd party dongles for those as well if I decide to buy them.
I think the Quest 2 controllers are pretty good. All controllers start to wear down after hundreds of hours, so yeah. No need to look for any other controllers.
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Thx man
I was wondering what type of vr headset + controlers is the best price to features. i checked htc vive, quest 2 and valve index and i don't know which one would be the best
I love my quest 2! People hate on it because of Facebook, but it actually has a higher screen resolution than the index at less than half the cost. I'm completely satisfied with it😃
Im pretty dumb with computers/laptops, but would an rtx 4080 be good with an i9-13900? Im thinking about buying the Lenovo Legion pro 7i! :)
Sounds good to me!
can an amd RX 6800s run it fine? im expecting like around 40 fps
Rtx 3060 in the back(😢😢😢)
Question does a 4050 work for vrchat?
would a RTX 3050 ti laptop computer be good for vr im currrently using just a gtx 1650 laptop for vr lol
Cid on 4:16 how did you get the wrist watch that tracks time, temperature, ram, and other statistics O.O
It's called xs overlay and it costs money on steam 😊
@@cid_vrc ILY
Would the recommended laptops and specs work for VRChat if you wanted to go to raves/events? I asked someone and they said they recommend a desktop with VRAM of atleast 64 GB, because apparently the scale of said raves/events can be massive.
Is this true, if so should I just work on building a desktop then?
You don't need a desktop, but you will have to hide a lot of avatars if your computer isn't strong.
So if you want to see a lot of people vibing and dancing around you, yeah you need a desktop. If you are okay with just seeing a small amount of people around you, you can use a weaker computer.
It also depends on if the club enforces avatar optimization rules.
@@cid_vrc Thanks for the info! I'm used to hiding avatars at a certain distance as I am Quest standalone and have been saving up for a PC for awhile, but I mainly hate lag the most.
How does optimization affect a laptops performance, if you don't mind me asking?
i wish i saw this before i bought a laptop stand.
Buy another one XD
@@cid_vrc i bought it XD
Do you know buy chance if I can run vrchat fullbody with a 3050 ti gpu and ryzen 7 5800H cpu buying that cooling stand you mentioned? I know the 3050 ti only has 4 gb VRAM which obvously isn't great, but I tried connecting my quest 2 through link cable and it ran simillar to my desktop with a 1660 super. I don't have much of an option though because I'm moving out and I can't bring my desktop with me so I was tinking of running FBT with my 3050 ti, what do you think?
Full body tracking doesn't take extra computer power, as long as it recognizes your gear, you're fine. Just keep your computer cool and rock what you have!
Also hide any avatars that you find are laggy lol.
@@cid_vrc thats perfect thx bro, ill lyk how it goes 😁
@@owlsunderscore7301 I have a flow z13 with i9 and 3050 ti and have no issue with Slimevr trackers. I plan on getting the rtx 4090 xg mobile Egpu that was just announced ^^
I have 500$ so are there any good vr ready Laptops in that price range like 499$ if u do please reply to me Asc thanks
laptop NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Graphics - AMD Ryzen 5 6600H - 16GB ram would that work?
Seems alright to play in flat screen mode
You can also do vr mode because I had a 2060 and it worked just put graphics on medium or low.
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2:26 skill issue lmao.
but I have no reason for a laptop I got a big boy, plus i'm only here to support a random channel.
Much appreciated!
@@cid_vrc np lil dude 🤘
Hey, what laptop do you use??
Lenovo Legion with 3070. It's pretty okay!
@@cid_vrc Oh cool! Thank you :))
@@cid_vrc hey is it the legion 5? or 5I or whatever they are
Laptop chads report in.
Let's see... I've got a Nitro 5 Acer Windows 11 PC with 16 GB of installed ram(plus an optional HDD slot for ram or something I think), and support for Nvidia 3070(Or 3050 I think)... it's pretty good at dealing with lots of particles and stuff you'd use to crash people, but for some reason it don't work well with player models(and my headset/PC does the whole repeating image thing when I lag sometimes, aswell as vision going a singular color in one eye, but what can ya do)... Wonder if that cache thing you were talking about on the tier list you made could fix/make it less of a pain... hmm...
Sorry if I addressed things again that didn't need to be addressed or are already issues considered resolved... Some things just work for me and that's all I care about... as for the things that don't work for me, well, I get hung up on them and eventually forget after enough time until the next time I want to...
i have an hp pavilion with an intel core i5 and an nvidia GTX 1660 ti with max Q mobile, with linux mint as my os (i run windows games just fine) ive been told it can run vrchat in vr mode but havent tested it yet since i havent goten my quest 2 yet
@@davidboss2160 You're getting a quest 2? Let us know how vrchat runs on linux!
@@cid_vrc aight. ill report back here on christmas eve. (i usually open them a day early)
alongside my pc I have this hp pavilion laptop, its a i5 8th gen with 16GB of ram, and a 1050ti with I think 4GB of Vram. its fine usually. doesn't really do new games. games from 2016 do run well. VRchat also runs fine, just not for VR.
my pc however I built over the last couple years. i7 9500k, 4x8(32GB) of RAM, and a 3080ti. it runs very well.
Is that a lenovo pro i5? 🤔
I think so
@cid_vrc ah ok I was thinking about looking Into that one right now my labtop has. RTX 1650 it's older but it can still holds its own but I am looking for a upgrade
can you do this again for 2023?
Eh, it's kind of redundant since intel has no new mobile chips out. You can buy right now without worry about being out of date. :)
@@cid_vrc what do u think of this laptop CPU ok or not?
cpu: (i7-11800H
gpu: Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 with 8GB GDDR6 MaxQ
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I'm planning to get an i5 10300h RTX 2060 will it work?
That's a little weak but you will be able to at least play vrchat on flat screen mode! You might lag if there's a lot of people though.
@@cid_vrc Hello thanks for replying but I sold the laptop and planning to buy a gaming computer 16GB RAM 2666HZ NVME storage RED DEVIL RT 6700 XT i5 10400f. Will I be able to VRCHAT I also heard that AMD does not work well with Airlink and VRChat so I'm a bit worried I use a Quest 2
@@SweetLemonBun AMD works with some people and doesn't work for others. All I know is that Nvidia just works.
@@cid_vrc i received the computer already 💀💀💀 airlink doesn't work as good and ALVR gives bad quality and high latency the only choice for me is ReliveVR with muddy quality.. I do know Virtual Desktop exist but not sure if it will work... Also when I VR my GPU and CPU doesn't use full utilization like 50% gpu usage I wonder if that's normal.
Too many numbers
My brain cannot compute
*looks at your name*
Yeah im pretty stupid ngl
I play on my 1050ti laptop
amd is worth buying if you're on a budget, but nvidia and intel is a scam! 💀💀
Me using a 1660
With a standalone VR you wouldn't need a gaming laptop. This is only relevant to gigachads.
That’s the magic of the Quest 2 is that it is a standalone but it is also just waiting to surf on off of one’s PC and get an instant EVOLUTION *pokemon intensifies*
Bruh how did you even run into those issues with an AMD GPU? Was it a GPU in an APU? Yeah ofc those have shitty performance, you need a dedicated GPU.
It was a dedicated graphics card. The computer stopped detecting it under any load and then it defaulted to the APU.
@@cid_vrc It probably was a driver issue
Did you make sure to set the application to "high performance mode" in windows? That should solve issues where it uses the APU instead of the GPU. You might also be able to disable the IGPU in the BIOS.
@@SixPie it probably wasn't driver related as usually it's not that a program can't run at all with driver issues unless the drivers are like super super super crap
@@ErrorRaffyline0 It can most likely was the driver because AMD didn't have great drivers for Windows back then. Most likely of been a DirectX issue in the driver I use a fairly old AMD GPU and VRChat works perfectly fine now. Btw the program usually crashes or has very weird graphical errors with broken drivers.
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bro used userbenchmark there is no way