This C6 probably doesn't deserve this amount of work, but at least it'll be a survivor, you can take solace in the fact you've definitely saved this one from the scrapyard.
@@stoneylonesome4062 Honda and Toyota vehicles had a slightly slower transition to so much plastic (Honda even still use rubber hoses & metal hard lines for vacuum even to this day, instead of those snap-fit plastic vacuum lines AFAIK), so might be better choices around that 2000-2010 era? (Granted if you are in the UK then rust is applicable, sadly.)
@@TassieLorenzo Not all the time Lexus gen2, Celica gen1 and Avensis gen1 owner and they still have parts break or collapse 'without hardly looking at them' .
There is a saying that goes " When you are up to your butt in alligators, it's hard to remember that your goal was to drain the swamp" . Cheers on your perseverance and Thanks for giving us a front seat to your agony. This can help out the next bloke. I am rooting for you!
I really feel for you mate, I ran into the back of a car in my 1998 Xantia 1.9TD SX estate in 2015 and I had to pull the rad and condenser rads out and rebuild all the plastics with little copper wire loops like I was building a plywood boat. and then stick it all back together with fibreglass, the rads were available but the price of a Citroen fan housing was more than the car was worth so with help from the French car Forum for a few spares like the odd bit of plastic from behind the bumpers I rebuilt it. you can definately see from the intracate way cars are put together these days that this is why they are so often written off when they have a accident, keep going your doing very well, wouldnt mind betting this will be a reference point for the French car forum in future, you might be making history where others have literally given up in their throw away society. This is the point where you will probably start to build that emotional bond with the car and do everything you can to suceed, I remember my Father working night after night in his garage putting new rings in his GS and had been supplied the wrong size rings they were ever so slightly to big, he stripped the engine out a second time which took him another week of fiddling but had to give up as he couldnt get the right size rings i had to tow the car to start it after it had warmed up when the rings expanded, he decided it was time for a new used GSA estate instead of a hatchback, but I never saw him so upset in his life he was so attached to that car, he'd been to hell and back trying to fix it, I remember towing it to the incinerator compound at the back of the Airport in Portsmouth and we took the spheres off so that she sunk to the ground and stayed there. if you ever need a fibreglass resin that gives you time to work (about 30mins) try Zap Z-poxy finishing resin from a model shop, it saved my xantia rad fan housing, the cure time is about 3 hours. its fuel proof to.
The amount of times that I've been there with various lubricants, blow torches, "Persuaders", angle grinders etc.... It is so frustrating. But you're getting there.
Love the videos, been in the same spot (under a C6 a few years back). Well done for persevering! With time and money they come around very well. You’ll need to replace a few bit more thought on the engines as the plastic go very weak at the that age of car. But then you’ll have many years of good wafting coming to you. You’ll enjoy it then. There pretty lovely when setup well.
Can't see you getting beaten, top marks for perseverence. AC might be welcome on your trip, a good gas flush and vacumn down before you put the coolant back in will tell. Well done.
Fascinated by your tussle with this car. You can do it! I was at Donington last Saturday. Slipped on my arse down on a muddy slope for 20 metre's as the cars were coming down the hill. Thankfully, I didn't let go of my £9 cheese burger. Must be on TikTok by now? 😄 Some great BTTC racing though.
As we already were at "inventive methods" people screwing around with Citroëns sometimes use to leave behind unexplainable scars and slashes just to surprise and scare the next guy screwing around on 'em.... 😄😅😂
Another episode of 'Cars finding ever new ways to upset and demoralise the enthusiastic, happy go lucky mechanic'. Remember, it's character building. Best of in getting it ready for France.
Well thats done the trick! As in made my mind up NEVER to buy a C6! I had really wanted one but not now, so thanks, you've saved me alot of time and trouble, not to mention money👍
I hope you don't mind me saying so, but thanks for the slightly shorter video. I have a tough time finding time in the day watching longer videos. BTW despite all the trouble it gives you, I still want a C6 one day.
I'm glad it helped. If I'm honest, the length of the vids is more down to the work/footage gathered. This was the same day as the first part, I just broke it down into two parts. The next one will be similar, too, but the one after might be longer. I do try to condense as much as I can, though :-)
@@UPnDOWN I hope you don't mind the feedback. Don't get me wrong, if I have time, I'll watch your stuff for hours, it's just sometimes I don't have time! I'm enjoying seeing your channel grow and I thought this opinion might be valid
I get the thing about shorter video, but I rather enjoy the longer ones. Can always watch it in two sittings if necessary. Whatever, the videos are great, keep them going!
O/s/f wheel off and undress the arch. With the suspension on highest you can just get at intercooler pipe, I seem to recall. While you’re in there you might as well do the timing belt & tensioner/idler! 😬
You can, but it still won't come off. And the timing belt is a job for somebody else, I think! I think my days of working in the engine bay of this car are at an end.
I've seen plastic in cooling systems go brown and brittle before, there's a little black plastic guide inside Vauxhall Family 0 water pumps that does exactly the same thing and makes the pump scream like hell, I think it's because they're GRP rather than actual plastic, so the coolant wickes along the fibres and absorbs into the plastic, and coolant has a horrible habit of being corrosive to not only metals but also plastics, especially if not diluted properly.
I would love a C6, but given that an experienced mechanic like yourself, with a well equipped workshop, still has struggles to keep a C6 running well, means a driveway dilettante, like myself would be in a world of pain and/or expensive bills.
I have a C6, I had hurdles to overcome, I am not a mechanic by trade, however I have an extensive knowledge. Remember, this was a very cheap C6. It is worth it.
To be fair, this C6 is teetering on the edge of parts car because it's been neglected so if you bought a well sorted one, it wouldn't be this troublesome to keep up with the maintenance.
I own a 2008 C6, the things wrong with his 750£ C6 is just mind boggling. My car has been in my family since new and the biggest jobs it has needed: had a LDS oil leak from radiator, possibly because the radiator sat in the snow for a while and cracked with the cold; hydraulic pump's motor stopped working, might have been because it got a little bit overloaded when LDS started to drip out from the radiator; undercarriage rebuild, rubber bushings started to wear out and I decided to do it right and everything got rebuilt. Other than that, it has had basically just maintenance as needed every year and consumable parts. No big issues like his C6 has. I can see how his videos can put people off buying a one, but it is not that bad when the car has been looked after and he is doing the gods work documenting everything wrong with his car.
**bins plans of ever owning a C6** 😆I also hope the title of this vid is referencing an age old youtubes video about an unfortunate aeroplane incident.
- Well what sort of standards are these C6s built to? - Oh very rigorous... French engineering standards - What sort of things? - Well the front's not supposed to fall off, for a start
All cars now are so plastic parts that’s we got in to a throw away society, also everything is made in China 😂😂👍 so will the smax be making the French trip ?
This C6 probably doesn't deserve this amount of work, but at least it'll be a survivor, you can take solace in the fact you've definitely saved this one from the scrapyard.
You are so correct with your comments about this era of cars becoming future classics. They are disposable like most things these days. 👍
Classic Car ownership will become very frustrating when you reach the era of plastic cars (late 90’s-early 00’s).
@@stoneylonesome4062 Honda and Toyota vehicles had a slightly slower transition to so much plastic (Honda even still use rubber hoses & metal hard lines for vacuum even to this day, instead of those snap-fit plastic vacuum lines AFAIK), so might be better choices around that 2000-2010 era? (Granted if you are in the UK then rust is applicable, sadly.)
@@TassieLorenzo Not all the time Lexus gen2, Celica gen1 and Avensis gen1 owner and they still have parts break or collapse 'without hardly looking at them' .
I love how the C6 is just watching you. Judging you.
Did you infect it with Hubnuttery when you had it for a loan?
There is a saying that goes " When you are up to your butt in alligators, it's hard to remember that your goal was to drain the swamp" . Cheers on your perseverance and Thanks for giving us a front seat to your agony. This can help out the next bloke. I am rooting for you!
I really feel for you mate, I ran into the back of a car in my 1998 Xantia 1.9TD SX estate in 2015 and I had to pull the rad and condenser rads out and rebuild all the plastics with little copper wire loops like I was building a plywood boat. and then stick it all back together with fibreglass, the rads were available but the price of a Citroen fan housing was more than the car was worth so with help from the French car Forum for a few spares like the odd bit of plastic from behind the bumpers I rebuilt it. you can definately see from the intracate way cars are put together these days that this is why they are so often written off when they have a accident, keep going your doing very well, wouldnt mind betting this will be a reference point for the French car forum in future, you might be making history where others have literally given up in their throw away society. This is the point where you will probably start to build that emotional bond with the car and do everything you can to suceed, I remember my Father working night after night in his garage putting new rings in his GS and had been supplied the wrong size rings they were ever so slightly to big, he stripped the engine out a second time which took him another week of fiddling but had to give up as he couldnt get the right size rings i had to tow the car to start it after it had warmed up when the rings expanded, he decided it was time for a new used GSA estate instead of a hatchback, but I never saw him so upset in his life he was so attached to that car, he'd been to hell and back trying to fix it, I remember towing it to the incinerator compound at the back of the Airport in Portsmouth and we took the spheres off so that she sunk to the ground and stayed there.
if you ever need a fibreglass resin that gives you time to work (about 30mins) try Zap Z-poxy finishing resin from a model shop, it saved my xantia rad fan housing, the cure time is about 3 hours. its fuel proof to.
Not just me who uses copper wire and araldite then 😅
@@MattBrownbill aeroldite, silicone, fibreglass, heatproof screwfix silicone etc etc etc.😂
The amount of times that I've been there with various lubricants, blow torches, "Persuaders", angle grinders etc.... It is so frustrating. But you're getting there.
She will be on the road mate, hang in there, keep calm, it will be worth it.
Yes
Love the videos, been in the same spot (under a C6 a few years back). Well done for persevering! With time and money they come around very well. You’ll need to replace a few bit more thought on the engines as the plastic go very weak at the that age of car. But then you’ll have many years of good wafting coming to you. You’ll enjoy it then. There pretty lovely when setup well.
This one is in bad condition. But good you gave her some love she deserves. A C6 is a car that really deserves it.
Can't see you getting beaten, top marks for perseverence. AC might be welcome on your trip, a good gas flush and vacumn down before you put the coolant back in will tell. Well done.
If I ever get a C6 i know where to send it too😂😂
Excellent little tinkering video as always Rich.
As a fellow Sea Sicks owner I empathise with your situation.
The angry spanner always gets the job done
Fascinated by your tussle with this car. You can do it!
I was at Donington last Saturday. Slipped on my arse down on a muddy slope for 20 metre's as the cars were coming down the hill. Thankfully, I didn't let go of my £9 cheese burger. Must be on TikTok by now? 😄
Some great BTTC racing though.
£9 cheese burger?! Bloody hell. That's why I cheap out and take a packed lunch!
I remember you once saying that perhaps you own a C6 so we don't have to. I think you're right. I'd run a mile.
Owning it is fine. It's working on it that I'd advise you avoid.
Loving the videos! Good luck with changing everything in time!
You've been spending too much time with Hubnut 🤣
As we already were at "inventive methods" people screwing around with Citroëns sometimes use to leave behind unexplainable scars and slashes just to surprise and scare the next guy screwing around on 'em.... 😄😅😂
Thanks for another great video. Keep going, that car is worth it.
Well done. Living the dream C6, The know how, and can afford the parts, sort of lol! It will pay you back for being good to it..
Another episode of 'Cars finding ever new ways to upset and demoralise the enthusiastic, happy go lucky mechanic'. Remember, it's character building. Best of in getting it ready for France.
Like the sledgehammer approach but lucky its not a customer car.
I wouldn't do this on a customer's car. It's not viable.
Well thats done the trick! As in made my mind up NEVER to buy a C6! I had really wanted one but not now, so thanks, you've saved me alot of time and trouble, not to mention money👍
Happy to help lol
Great content as always keep it up
I hope you don't mind me saying so, but thanks for the slightly shorter video. I have a tough time finding time in the day watching longer videos. BTW despite all the trouble it gives you, I still want a C6 one day.
I'm glad it helped. If I'm honest, the length of the vids is more down to the work/footage gathered. This was the same day as the first part, I just broke it down into two parts.
The next one will be similar, too, but the one after might be longer. I do try to condense as much as I can, though :-)
@@UPnDOWN I hope you don't mind the feedback. Don't get me wrong, if I have time, I'll watch your stuff for hours, it's just sometimes I don't have time! I'm enjoying seeing your channel grow and I thought this opinion might be valid
I get the thing about shorter video, but I rather enjoy the longer ones. Can always watch it in two sittings if necessary. Whatever, the videos are great, keep them going!
O/s/f wheel off and undress the arch. With the suspension on highest you can just get at intercooler pipe, I seem to recall.
While you’re in there you might as well do the timing belt & tensioner/idler! 😬
You can, but it still won't come off. And the timing belt is a job for somebody else, I think! I think my days of working in the engine bay of this car are at an end.
Speaking of BTCC Nic Hamilton got is best finish 2 date and his brother was there as well when incognito as well
He did! I was made up for him. We were all cheering him on.
Jeeze!!! 😳 Don't know what to say really....................
Nice rug 🤷♂️
It's not though, is it?
@@UPnDOWN Yeah, I just have terrible taste in rugs 😕
I've seen plastic in cooling systems go brown and brittle before, there's a little black plastic guide inside Vauxhall Family 0 water pumps that does exactly the same thing and makes the pump scream like hell, I think it's because they're GRP rather than actual plastic, so the coolant wickes along the fibres and absorbs into the plastic, and coolant has a horrible habit of being corrosive to not only metals but also plastics, especially if not diluted properly.
Ally radiators are now a consumable, like filters and oil. 😮
Another good video 🚘🚙🚗👍⭐️⭐️⭐️
I would love a C6, but given that an experienced mechanic like yourself, with a well equipped workshop, still has struggles to keep a C6 running well, means a driveway dilettante, like myself would be in a world of pain and/or expensive bills.
I have a C6, I had hurdles to overcome, I am not a mechanic by trade, however I have an extensive knowledge. Remember, this was a very cheap C6. It is worth it.
@@dizzy2020 100%
To be fair, this C6 is teetering on the edge of parts car because it's been neglected so if you bought a well sorted one, it wouldn't be this troublesome to keep up with the maintenance.
I own a 2008 C6, the things wrong with his 750£ C6 is just mind boggling. My car has been in my family since new and the biggest jobs it has needed: had a LDS oil leak from radiator, possibly because the radiator sat in the snow for a while and cracked with the cold; hydraulic pump's motor stopped working, might have been because it got a little bit overloaded when LDS started to drip out from the radiator; undercarriage rebuild, rubber bushings started to wear out and I decided to do it right and everything got rebuilt.
Other than that, it has had basically just maintenance as needed every year and consumable parts. No big issues like his C6 has.
I can see how his videos can put people off buying a one, but it is not that bad when the car has been looked after and he is doing the gods work documenting everything wrong with his car.
@johnpeat2487 Spot on there!
At this rate it might be quicker to put the SM on the road :D
SM would fight less, I'm sure of it.
**bins plans of ever owning a C6** 😆I also hope the title of this vid is referencing an age old youtubes video about an unfortunate aeroplane incident.
Oil tankers, actually.
@@UPnDOWN Oh gods yes, you're right. I had that skit as a bookmark for literally decades. It's still funny even now.
Those jobs you wish you never started……
Just imagine if you had done something mad and driven it all over France like that!
I know. Be mad, wouldn't it?
- Well what sort of standards are these C6s built to?
- Oh very rigorous... French engineering standards
- What sort of things?
- Well the front's not supposed to fall off, for a start
Cardboard's out. No cardboard derivatives.
@@UPnDOWN Just don't be tempted to tow it outside the environment.
Because Citroen.
Can't say that about a Saxo, though, can ya!?
May l quote Hubnut "because French "
You may not.
Do they give out Valour Medals for bravery under French cars?
I believe not.
Serviceability clearly not a design parameter😵💫.
Told you petrol and a match.
Now now.
@@UPnDOWN Sorry 😀 you have the patience of a Saint.
No wonder garages refuse to work on citroens 🤔
Most Citroens are straight forward, this is not most Citroen's. This is why there is such dedication
echatz is right.
@UPnDOWN how good is the C6 in bends, I can't believe how it changes from floaty to stiff, almost no body roll.
It's pretty good considering it's size and wafting ride
Ah..man. these French cars. They really are overly complex brutes. I don't know why people want to put themselves through the turmoil. 😂😂
its called emotional attachment
Honestly, this is no more complex than something like a 5-series or E/S-Class.
Plastic and electrics are the death of modern classic cars. Too expensive and too difficult to work on.
Dont Count your chickens because it is French car expect the worse
I normally have worse on German cars, to be fair. This is more like one of those.
All cars now are so plastic parts that’s we got in to a throw away society, also everything is made in China 😂😂👍 so will the smax be making the French trip ?
No, the S-Max is broken.
Sombre. Your cars do seem to have the bodies of animals in them rather a lot.
Definitely a reoccuring theme.
First