Penn Jillette - The Origins Podcast with Lawrence Krauss - FULL VIDEO
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- Penn Jillette (of Penn & Teller) joins Lawrence at the Origins Podcast studios for a wide-ranging and colorful discussion of topics including ethics, magic, climate change, Richard Feynman, The Amazing Randi, “artistic genius”, and much more.
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The Origins Podcast features in-depth conversations with some of the most interesting people in the world about the issues that impact all of us in the 21st century. Host, theoretical physicist, lecturer, and author, Lawrence M. Krauss, will be joined by guests from a wide range of fields, including science, the arts, and journalism. The topics discussed on The Origins Podcast reflect the full range of the human experience - exploring science and culture in a way that seeks to entertain, educate, and inspire.
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That laugh when the bust is revealed. 😂😂
LMAO... I must've replayed that part at least 10 times. That was goddamn hilarious!
man this laugh cracked me seriously up
Penn has one of the best laughs
Sounds like asthma
As soon as Penn started telling the anecdote, Lawrence's face lights up thinking "here goes!" Love it.
Fun fact...that Spock bust on the shelf is actually a liquor decanter. I had one in the 80s.
Quick correction. I agree with Penn that people misuse "the exception proves the rule." But his explanation of what it really means is also wrong. The way the phrase is meant to be taken is this: "The exception TESTS the rule." Among the definitions of the word "prove" is a somewhat archaic definition, which is a synonym for "test." Think of the phrases "testing ground" and "proving ground," which both mean the same thing.
Excellent comment. That phrase always seemed nonsensical to me, now I know why.
Interesting. Your testing ground/proving ground example is quite insightful.
The exception PROOFS the rule.
It's a similar mistake to the way people say, 'according to theory', when they actually mean, 'according to hypothesis/assumption/delusion'.
Just because they have a false-logic, or oft repeated common response, to superficially appease their ego, it does not mean it is correct.
@@bikerfirefarter7280 I had read about the phrase once in an essay by a linguist, and the explanation didn’t include the “proof/prove” thing, but I’m sure you’re right. Thanks for the correction.
The first time I really started thinking about the illogic of the phrase was about twenty years ago, I was listening to a debate on NPR. One dude made a claim, second dude pointed out an exception. First dude goes, “But the exception proves the rule!” And I was like, WHATTTT???
The best part (the laugh) is 28:30, for those who want to replay it.
I was totally on board until the gender neutral nonsense.
yup with you on that
@nmeunier If you want to be addressed as a man, I don't think anybody has issue with that.
nmeunier There are aspects of reality that people with a conservative worldview seem to find difficult to comprehend, and unwilling to accept. Stop confusing your subjective opinions for objective reality. And get off your arrogant "high horses", and thinking that you "know better" and _are_ "better" than other people.
The conservative mindset tries to force reality into simplistic dichotomies: "Good" vs "Evil"; "Us" and "Them"; male and female. It's not just a matter of getting "woke" to evolving cultural norms. It's also a matter of seeing the world the way it actually is, and accepting reality. Dichotomies are just a crude first approximation. They are not reality, which occurs not just in black and white, but in every shade of gray.
Whether you accept it or not, human sexuality and gender identity are complicated. That is not an opinion, but a fact. If you cannot accept this, it is your myopia and intransigence that is at issue, and not someone else's willingness to listen, learn, sympathize, and change their views, as Penn jillette has done.
Conservatism is a facet of human nature that is built into all of us, but that doesn't mean that we have to succumb to it. A conservative attitude of intolerance is strongly influenced by culture as well. My criticism is: Why are you content to let your mind remain in that condition, when you have the capacity to change it? Why do you want to indulge it, and feel proud of it, when it is a source of anxiety, fear, and hatred?
Perhaps you should pay closer attention to Penn's definition of "intellectual", and try to aspire to that. In my view, remaining ignorant and intolerant when you have the capacity for growth is unforgivable. You were born not only with a penis (as you seem anxious for us all to know), with a brain as well. Why not try using both of them?
@nmeunier knocked it out the park my friend
that was a groaner. But I know he means well.
Another great one, Lawrence Krauss, don't stop. Thank you Penn Jillette:)
Another case of a great man brought down by his wokeness
Love Penn but the gender neutral thing is nonsense.
It's absolutely ridiculous. He lost me right there.
How do you address someone with a Mr/Sir/Miss/Mrs whilst being gender neutral? Am I missing something?
How he felt being lied to when he was 12 is how I feel hearing him agree with this gender neutral insanity.
I think I understand your guy's sentiments. However, I think all Penn is trying to say is that there is indeed a spectrum of gender identification, so it is a more tolerant action to remove strict binary rhetoric when addressing an audience, or anywhere else in life. He gave an anecdote where he misgendered someone and that made him feel like shit. That's all. Im not saying that, and i dont think he is either, that we cant call men and woman by their gender, but to be more sympathetic to the times and the people in it. Idk all im saying is that if u think u disagree with him maybe try to see what his actual stance and argument is. I myself my be totally wrong as well but if I am, I'd like to find out, instead of just dismissing someones point altogether.
Done with my poop. Later
Jordan Peterson choked on his pancake when he heard Penn say this stuff
“The essence of the Liberal outlook lies not in what opinions are held, but in how they are held: instead of being held dogmatically, they are held tentatively, and with a consciousness that new evidence may at any moment lead to their abandonment.”
--Bertrand Russell (Unpopular Essays, 1950)
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clark
This quote came to mind since science and technology go together in my mind.
"No shit, Sherlock".
And just how do they not go together, out of your mind?
@@bikerfirefarter7280 You misunderstood my meaning. Technology and science are intertwined by necessity. My point was to pass along Clark's insight about how those who are not familiar with the details of how a technology works would tend to see it the same way as someone who believed in magic. Imagine someone from Mark Twain's time seeing a smartphone being used today.
Twain used this meme in his novel "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court." A time traveler from Twain's time went back in time to King Arthur's time, and convinced them that they could perform magic by using knowledge of science from the future.
@@someguy2135 My point was, what's the difference between science and technology? Why does it need to come together if it's just two words with almost the same meaning?
@@bikerfirefarter7280 Almost, but not exactly the same meaning. I was trying to use words accurately, but I may have unintentionally came across as if I were making a different point than I meant to.
Thanks for the video Mr.Krauss!
I must say, Mr Krauss, you have some very cool friends. Some quality Humans.
I think cool people naturally attract cool people. Also there's a saying: tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are.
I’ve got cereal paisley and discovered Penn Juliette a couple months ago on the magic shows. I enjoyed the conversation he had with Lawrence. They say you learn something every day and I did thank you.
Loved every second of this penn is amazing I would love the opportunity to meet him and sit down and talk pick his brain and get some advice on a few things.. Lawrence you are great as well u have truly a great mind and are a great teacher.. and I’m so glad to see you back we need you!!
39:40 Anyone else notice this?
What is going on with this? Why does the host try to mimic or finish Penns sentences with him sometimes, as if he’s a twin or something?
28:31 When my boss tells a joke.
same. asslickers ^^
I disagree with the notion that English has the most beautiful literature, not necessarily because I believe another language outclasses English in that regard but because I've read some incredible poetry written in several other languages and I've come to believe that each language is capable of its own innate beauty and unique ability for expression. What one language lacks is what another language possesses, and each one creates infinite variery in expression. For instance English lacks past and future tenses of 'when', neither does it possess gendered nouns. Without those grammatical functions there are sentences that I can create in French, Swedish or German which would never translate directly to English and they would lose a part of their meaning in translation. Simply put I believe that there exists too much nuance with which to color and contrast with in other languages to definitively declare one as superior. They all bring something unique to the table.
He probably just meant that subjectively
You start learning the minute you are borne, learning at a rapid pace. Education comes later
Larry, thank you for giving us videos that don't stoop to the lowest common denominator.
Penn, you are wrong about homelessness. Yes there are plenty of drug users and mentally ill people but if you live in Los Angeles or another major city, you do because that's where the jobs are. In recent years jobs have been outsourced, eliminated by automation or work for companies that no longer exist.. If you are laid off, or your occupation is no longer relevant and your rent $900 per month, you run a serious risk of being homeless. I have seen many people living out of the trunk of their car and work 6 days a week and rents continue to rise. I know that you are libertarian and I agree with some of those principles but the fact is we need entry level housing, not more mc-mansions
Agreed!
Penn's wrong about a lot of things apparently - takes him years to admit he's flipped 180° on climate change denialism and then he blames the style of the people who exposed him to reality?
Ahh, now I'm getting why he's compromised on climate change - he's an Ayn Rand fan and pretty deeply involved with the Koch brothers (well just the living one now).
Automation lol
How about illegal immigrants.
@@onemangang2545 Immigrants pick all the beautiful produce you see in your supermarkets and slaughter the meat doing jobs that no one else wants and the employers are not held to account.. They are not the problem. It distracts to what Wall St has done to you and me. If you disagree, vote for a Trump second term..
I love this guy
I love these guys
28:28 | That laugh! 🤣
Wtf is this? Oh lord. 😆
Joker Laugh
Phony as hell.
No matter how down I'm feeling, I can come here and watch that, and it makes me laugh without fail!
I've always loved Penn and Teller because of their fairness. Truly honest liars. Thank you for this chat. Penn is a fine uneducated intellectual. 🙂
"Scientists were being fooled by something that was rudimentary."
Very relevant today
Two ways to be:
1. Someone starts talking about something you know nothing about, and you feel dumb, and you vow to learn that stuff.
2. Someone starts talking about something you know nothing about, and you ask them about it.
It's called generosity. Listening is generosity. Lawrence is a good listener.
I don't really understand your comment, are these "rules" or are hese supposed to be mutually exclusive?
Cause personnally i feel both and i'm rather happy with that
If there's one thing I love in life and that's intelligent conversation. So thank you Dr Krauss for inviting these wonderful characters.
There is intelligent conversation, and there is also self-convincing false-logic. It can be partial or total.
I grew up in Canada watching Kreskin, and I feel he told the audience at every step that these were tricks, and is part of the reason i grew up to be a devout atheist. I love you two guys, and I miss talking with Penn, who I used to at our studio decades ago. great talk
I wonder how Penn would react to a bootleg of his work
'rigorously ethical' is such a flattering way to describe someone.
He’s so spot on about Guns ‘n’ & and Roses not pushing the envelope of what they do, ever. Just mediocre and famous for doing exactly what people thought they would in the most pedestrian way possible.
Also, we all know you're listening... please turn your mic down or off if you're going to mumble affirmatives to your guests... it's creepy. Love the show!
Fuck off man. You're basing your opinion on what should happen on what? It's a dialogue!! These aren't lectures or arguments.
education is the only way forward
Krauss, please, STOP uttering sounds every 2 seconds when he's talking. uh huh. yeah. uh huh. yeah. just listen. you don't have to respond to every sentence.
Because Penn won't let him get more than three words in.
Wait...! Teller can *SPEAK!* ? lol. I've seen Penn in some other stuff, his politics are kinda right wing libertarianist and he doesn't recognize the problems with capitalism, which is crap for someone of his intelligence. He needs to watch some Richard Wolff.
Penn & Teller were on a late nite show and the host tried to tease Teller in to speaking so he said 'Fuck' (I think) and of course it was bleeped. Now THAT'S quick witted! And I agree Penn can be a bit oblivious to the dark side of a profit-driven system.
@@coyoteboy5601 I seriously doubt Penn is oblivious to the fact that ALL economic systems are not static for more than a minute. I'm very confidant he has even met people whose greed is insatiable and finds it disgusting and immoral. I'm quite sure he recognizes that there is never going to ba an economic system that begins with a level playing field and those with more wealth and power will try to commandeer political power to improve thier economic power which is in fact subverting Capitalism, not practicing it. Despite that human factor, Capitalism is still the economic expression of Democracy and vastly more benign than any other system.
When I first saw Lawrence. It was on tv debating some muslim guy. He was unusually offensive but did make some fair points. Of course when I saw him speak later on every other place I realized who this guy is and that insult he feels when talking with dishonest debaters. I love you Lawrence, I used to be a devout muslim once. Free now
Sorry i think i broke my english up there
when Penn speaks about being lied to and seeing Scientists and Magicians as the same, it made me sad and upset that people still do this, but now widespread on social media.
I love Penn but couldn't make it through this because (i didn't realize this bothered me until now) I can't follow with the over talking, where someone is trying to say something and the other person is trying to say the same words/trying to finish the other person's sentence.
Mr Krauss, you are very good at this. I really love how you approach podcasting and you enable very pleasant and intelligent shows.
Penn - My father was an atheist (far before it was as accepted as it is today) and was always irritated by lies. He saw your show LONG ago in Vegas and was really happy that you approached magic with honesty. It really did change his view of magic that it could be just good entertainment instead of trickery... Great stuff... I really enjoyed the cast!
Listening to impressively successful people talking about Richard Feynman gets me all the time. It gives a very accurate parameter of how important he still is. Cheers Mr. Feynman! We all miss you dearly.
So happy to see this
Mmm! I have always liked this man for the way he uses his mind. What a lovely way to start a conversation. He says, "I believe the best definition of an intellectual I have ever heard is someone who is willing to change their mind with information." From what I have read he started off being Vegan purely for the health benefits and then experienced a real emotional change. He stated that he no longer wants to be apart of the suffering. THAT is intellectual. Thank you, Mr. Jillette! :) ...and, Thank you Mr. Krauss for having such an interesting and compassionate person on your show! :)
He makes a point , then he repeats it several times
The IPCC gets $2B yearly funding, so I don't want to hear nobody is making money, Krauss !!!!
So this SCIENTISTS have made careers on climate change. They have an AGENDA , they have to GET PAID...
The climate crisis is a fucking leftist agenda to push this country over to socialism.
They can't deal with the fact that the temperature HAD ALREADY RISEN BEFORE OUR CO2 contributions. FACT.
A cannot be responsible for B if B happened first..
about 36:00 I've never heard the words "Perfect pitch" and "Bob Dylan" so close together!
If you were a Dylan fan, you'd realize he didn't miss a note. Listen again.
@@dreamingrightnow1174 I saw him about 8? years ago in Vancouver... He missed a LOT of notes... The concert was pretty lousy really, well, except Mark Knopfler who opened was great
If you love the universe the birds will make you mentally ill so you fight with the environment to make it intelligent. Your supposed to make the environment intelligent so no God needed. God has been liberated and he is fully capable of evolving himself without any help. God don't want your worship he just wants to get married. Royal weddings is most watched thing on television. We fixed the video and audio for best experience possible. Cameras are supernatural and all of them captured 3D. The audio loud don't make violence so has depth. Nobody has to buy anything for it to work.
How the fuck did I not know Krauss had a podcast? Fucking shit.
Love the conversation, Pen is so intelligent. Why the fuck is he still using homophobic language? Makes my blood boil.
Lawrence, i love ya man, but you gotta learn the art of silence on this one lol.
'chausse-pied et choux de bruxelles'.
And it's, 'The exception PROOFS the rule'; not 'proves'.
You're welcome.
35 minutes in and is one of my favorite pod casts ever, thank you
I can not abide using “they” for he or she. I don’t wish to evolve that much. I don’t think every stanchion of language and civilization should not be destroyed.
Fake detective shows is an interesting segway.... I always wondered why Colombo worked so well when the audience already knew the answer.
Happy that my like, just made this podcast to one thousand.
I really enjoyed this !!! Great guy
You mean great "person".
@@Wolferal oh god, that is so important
Penn is a good lad.. but turned off after his pronoun bit.. gimme a fucking break!
Penn is a huge FZ fan? Who could have guessed!
Love them both but almost impossible to listen to. The points get lost intermittently
Love you , Penn.
Always leaving me something to ponder.
Thank you so much for this
Mr.Penn has the most contagious laughter in the world 😂
But what's the contagion? Phoniness?
Karuss sounds like the main character in Fallout 4 when you try to skip dialog.
HAHAHA thats exactly what I thought! mhm, mhm, yeah, mhm, yeah
@@xSynzx aha, ok ;)
Almost made it unwatchable. Like a bad Woody Allen impression. Besides that it was great content.
This is my first time listening to Kraus interviewing someone I really respect - Penn Jillette. However, it will be my last since his constant interruptions with his amateur interjections “ummmm, yeah, yeah, OK, uh huh, exactly”. Dear god, please..... Mr Kraus, clean up your act, go back to basic interviewing school. I will not be subscribing to your channel even though you ask interesting questions
What a great conversation a joy to listen to
Great one Lawrence. I didn't know as much about Penn as I wanted to and these long format interviews are excellent. Great job to both of you!
This is the best podcast I’ve seen ! Perfect setting and guest . Lawrence was on joe rogan and you realize how much joe is a horrible interviewer. These guys just meshed together
Lawrence, I love your podcasts but sometimes it can be really irritating when you try to "speak along" with your guests. I don't think you do this deliberately but maybe you can try and do this less in the future? Just a thought from one of your listeners :)
Love Penn Jillette. Great get Lawrence!
Yeah uh huh exactly yes yup yeah huh yup exactly
Woke nonsensical ostentatiously righteous
Music doesn't have intellect added on. I'd say Music is intellect in its purest form. It's the only form of communication that lights up the entire brain. Just like Science, it's up to the consumer if they want to actually learn more about it. Just my .02
Penn switched to a mostly plant based diet and lost 100 pounds. He then learned about why others are ethical vegans, and cut out the last of the animals from his plate. He no longer eats what comes out of animals either. Why switch?
1-Your own health (vegans are less likely to get several deadly chronic diseases)
2-Helping to end animal agriculture would reduce the chance of another pandemic & other zoonotic diseases
3-Helping to end animal ag would reduce the chance of the development of an antibiotic resistant pathogen.
4-Animal ag wastes a huge amount of fresh water
5-Animal ag is a major cause of water pollution
6-Animal ag is a major cause of deforestation
7-Animal ag increases PTSD and spousal abuse in the people who work in slaughterhouses
8-Animal ag is a major cause of the loss of habitat and biodiversity
9-Animal welfare, obviously
10- It is the single most effective way for each of us to fight climate change and environmental degradation.
11- Longer lifespan.
12- Healthier weight (vegans were the only dietary group in the Adventist Studies that had an average BMI in the recommended range.)
13- A vegan world would save 8 million human lives a year, and $1.5 trillion in health care costs (Oxford Study)
Links for some of these are at my channel under "About."
That 3 mile island death toll point is a good one, very well put that the accident was much deadlier then people know and that is an argument in favor of nuclear safety not against.
But another point i feel is almost never brought up in the debate on wether nuclear power is responsible for to many death -aside from the obvious fact the debate was settled by data a long time ago and nuclear is multiple orders of magnitude less lethal per W/h then any other - is the deaths of the major meltdowns.
Cherobyl is way less deadly then people would think, but fukoshima ?
That one is unbelievably misunderstood, from the actual death toll to the contamination.
Fukoshima was a natural disaster, one of the most damaging deadly and costly in history. 20 000 people died.... from the earthquake.
The deaths were not caused by any meltdown, in fact the total number of casualties caused by nuclear meltdown in this case is a big fat zero.
Nobody died from radiation-yet. And even in the worst case scenario in 100y looking back almost nobody will have died due to nuclear compared to nature, the 20k deaths were due to the earthquake and subsequent tsunami not radiation. In fact its now safe to live there again...
Penn has no formal education or technical scientific competance and yet he keeps breaking my scientific brain not with his knowlege but with his understanding of science and its philosophy.
I'm a struggling student and have been for the lelast 25y, not struggling with the notions and concepts but the system.
I mean next to arriving at 8am and having to repress my intense adhd for 2h tryikg to pay attention to something i already know, don't care about in that momekt or whatever, that is orders of magnitude more challenging for me then astrodynamics or understanding how vector spaces are the mathematical basis of quantum mechanics.
Not to brag anyone with a brain and Interest can do it but to poikt out how heartbreaking it is for me to listen to penn trash talk science and science teachers.
How many bright and curious children, full of the desire to understand the world, how many were disenchanted by the education system, how many potential futur gems were grounded into dusty cynical people like penn almost did and i sadly have.
I have considered so many times just stopping my studies, forgetting all hopes of ever doing what i am passionate about as a job, i am so close to letting go becoming a bus driver or whatever and just keep on learning on my own time.
Penn inspires couragr and determination in my mind, i may fail to acomplish anything but i have to try to do what i want -learn- in one particular teedious painful way, because i can't live with myself knowing i could succeed in arriving at a position where i actually have the power to change things and help kids neglected by education
're his note on exceptions proving rules, a guy was once prosecuted for ignoring a sign NO SMOKING ALLOWED.
His defence was this meant you COULD smoke if you wished.
A defence the magistrate accepted
Ive always disliked magicians, or clowns, but i love Penn and I made myself watch "Now you see me". Loved those movies, all because I've learned that not believing in a god is okay. So I've realized how good some magicians are, but i still don't like clowns 🙄never gonna happen lol. 🙄 great interview to🦋
The atheist hour. Comedians, magicians and a retired physicist. I really care about Penn's opinion of climate science. Sweet. Why not invite David Albert?
Ok. Wow. What to say. A Very long hour forty. Things got real ponderous.
To make it brief, there's just no way PJ is not some sort childhood trauma survivor. Getting so worked up about pretty much nothing, stressing the wrong stuff, constantly referring to his kind of troubled childhood. Dude we get it. We get it.
PJ might be the dumbest smart person I've heard speak in a while.
At least he's using his power for good.
I have to admit that I have not read all 277 comments already posted, so this may have already been covered. If so, I apologize for rehashing the points below.
I have to admit moreover to being in awe of these two men, both extremely intelligent, great communicators, and very thoughtful in their opinions and positions. I have, however, two wee nits to pick with Penn Jillette on the subject of language.
The first is his explanation the the old adage "the exception proves the rule." If you consult the OED you find the very first definition of "prove" to be "test." In all fairness, almost everyone gets this expression wrong, and even more so "the proof of the pudding is in the tasting."
If you simply substitute "test" for "prove" or "proof" in these expressions they immediately make sense, and are clearly true. Exceptions do "test" the validity of any widely accepted "rule." In the same way, whether or not a pudding (probably the savory pudding virtually unknown in America) is well made and properly cooked is made clear by eating or tasting the dish.
The second disagreement I have with Penn Jillette is much more a matter of opinion. He spoke passionately about how he has removed all gender pronouns from his routines. I cannot agree that using they, their, or them as a neutral singular pronoun is beneficial to communication in English. He is, of course, entitled to do as he likes in his own communication and in his public performances. English, however, can be woolly enough, having verbs and nouns with multiple and often contradictory meanings. Adding to the confusion by tinkering with pronouns, however well-intentioned, is a fad that careful writers and speakers certainly hope will soon pass.
28:31 Priceless!! LMAO!!!
45:44 My final exam for quantum theory honours at McGill was 3 not completely solvable questions. Took me 5 hours (extended time for the group)
@1:40:40 Lawrence refers to colleagues who stifle conversation about technical solutions to climate change for fear that doing so "might suggest to people that 'we don't have to change' ". But isn't resistance to change the fundamental perceptual layer from which problem solving itself emerges?
Dr Krauss I am in India and am so lucky to hear your podcasts on TH-cam. What a spectrum of people you have interviewed. Penn is great and so disarmingly honest. Love this
Why does it bother me so much when I see someone going on and an and making such a big deal about gender pronouns while at the same time never one mention of the murderous atrocities committed by our military happening every single second of every single day. Are there no priorities anymore? I have listened to the pronoun argument many times on the media, but hardly ever the endless, unnecessary war dilemma. Why do we pay so much attention to one and not the other? I love Penn and Teller, but I am still bothered and baffled.
Beyond Smoke and Mirrors by Burton Richter, gives an honest analysis of climate change and the potential pathways to stabilizing the greenhouse effect.
Chausse-pied, choux de Bruxelles
Haha je suppose que nous parlons couramment l'anglais. :-)
Laurence, for Gods sake, stop talking over your guest. Let them talk, that's why they are there.
Penn likes F Zappa music shows in his face look. Reverse facial hair. Maybe i am way off base.
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Got to disagree , smart people do not want to bring children into this crazy hell . Some of the biggest bastards in history had loads of kids !
Wonderful podcast, wonderful guest. Thank you!
Love to see/hear you Dr Krause again
As a dyslexique the hypocrisy of what i m about to do is just to much to resist sorry but
actually its not krause but Krauss, and he doesn't like to be called doctor he prefers professor
God i hate myself
I hope you come to melbourne australia and meet you booth love to to learn from you both im atheist and want to ti go back to school and try what i could have done but went security as easy money haha
Yup. Mmmhmmm perfect
7:15 Wait, what...? Teller can speak...?!?
Btw, this was great, this was terrific, what was that...?
Mr. Kraus, I hope I have the chance to see you live...in Madrid, please
"VO" = Voice Over
Yup. Hahaha
If you are worried about pronouns then I don't know what to tell they.
The gender stuff is boneheaded. There’s nothing wrong with using he or she.
What is the framed art-image of a face under a lamp at Dr. Krauss' right hand side?
Dean , Don and Carlin references not expected. Loved it ❤️
Best interview I’ve come across in the past 3-4 years. Intellectual, relatable, uplifting, nothing but good. Two truly smart, feeling beings.
Physicist? Is that where you give someone a physical?